Apache Prisoner | What it's Like to be Kidnapped by the Most TERRIFYING Indian Tribe

[@superdrunkdnb]

What separates your videos in a really positive way to other productions is that you don't put in annoying sound effects to create fake tension. The tension comes naturally from the super interesting storys. I also like the slight hint of ambient music in the back. Keep it up! I'm excited for your next uploads!

[@RemoWilliams1227]

I agree!

[@ronnetteharvey2002]

I am in total agreement. It was so much easier to really get involved emotionally and hold that feeling. I have skipped videos from annoying music that I didn't think matched the level of tension. This was truly a good way to do the reading.

[@bigpapapamnamor2545]

he also doesnt link sources :( dislike

[@tracytomlinson3409]

I love anything true that has to do with Native Americans. Wonderful presentation and narration. Thank you so much for your dedication to this work of preserving history.

[@krenekkennels8796]

9 years among the Indians is an excellent book, one of my favorites. I believe it should be required reading in school. Had to like the video before I even watched! Keep up the good work!!

[@datesanddeadguys]

That book is so fun. There was so much awesome stuff I cut out and the video is still 27 minutes.

[@kennethd9344]

-(8((! Dig Born 1:13 n1895(

[@deemae5868]

A very good book!

[@adoe2305]

I agree. Instead of the woke bs revisionist they read about now.

[@felixmadison5736]

Gov. DeSantis removed this book from book shelves in libraries and schools in Florida.

[@hectormunoz6052]

It's very ironic and at the same time Poetic that , quanah Parker adopted him and eventually helped him reunite with his family . This might be the most interesting and amazing story that I have ever read about .

[@datesanddeadguys]

I did my best to do it justice, but the Lehmann’s book, Nine Years Among the Indians, is wonderful. I highly recommend it. If you have an audible subscription, it is included in the membership. If you read e-books, you can find it for like $3. I left a lot out to condense the story.

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

Quanah Parker was not Apache and no Indigenous People didn't adopt anyone -COMANCHE NATION

[@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC707]

Quanah Parker was half white himself!

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

@@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC707 That's a complete made up story by European people because Quanah so so educated. Whites try to say the same thing about me because I'm so much more brilliant than any Caucasian alive. -COMANCHE NATION

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

@Conway Twitter Parkers mother was never captive. Another European made up Trumps getting arrested. -COMANCHE NATION

[@DerGlaetze]

This would make an incredible movie.

[@jaygee2759]

A man called horse... Richard harris..

[@mikeansley5306]

Hondo - John Wayne

[@stevenmontgomery8117]

A man called horse

[@irelandtatum3300]

I feel like Disney will be butchering it soon

[@EugeneSSmith]

​@@jaygee2759 I though the natives were Sioux? !

[@interviolet6675]

"Last day-You or me?" That response goes so hard, spartans would smirk at that.

[@100HoneyComb]

Herman is such a profound writer it kinda blows me away. I got emotional when he talked about his lowest moment

[@datesanddeadguys]

That part of the book gets me. It is beyond anything I could imagine. And the same people who took him became his family. In the book, after Carnoviste dies, he talks about how he was his closest friend. I really tried hard to do it justice. I have a horrible ear for tone and music but I hope it worked in the video.

[@100HoneyComb]

@@datesanddeadguys nah your just hating on yourself. The way you tell the stories is perfect. Like I get excited watching them. Your passion comes through and it registers. I've been wanting to start my own channel for a while (different subject matter) And these videos are inspiring me to finally do it haha

[@100HoneyComb]

@@datesanddeadguys what a complicated predicament culturally. These same people who tortured me are the people that I love. It's like a spiritual Stockholm syndrome or something. Took a special soul to endure all that and rise to the occasion.

[@datesanddeadguys]

That’s awesome. Good luck. It’s a grind but it’s fun.

[@datesanddeadguys]

Absolutely. What a hard relationship to understand. But it is bizarre the number of cases of people kidnapped by Indians that prefer that life. What is that? I genuinely want to know.

[@Kaiyanwang82]

Absolutely amazing story.

[@dannyhutson7787]

Herman Lehman was a relative of mine. He wrote a book called “ Nine Years with the Indians “. It’s a excellent read. He’s also in the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame.

[@abbmichael866]

Herman Lehman is a typical German name, are your ancestors from Germany.?

[@davidrice3337]

way cool

[@davidrice3337]

@@abbmichael866 Abb Michael is a ...... umm - what is that ? Inca ?

[@Nozylatten]

@@abbmichael866 He was definitely German.

[@bongdonkey]

He mentions the book at start of video.

[@gully8029]

I sure wish my father was still alive to listen to your channel. KZbin wasn’t around when he was alive, so we had and still have a house full of books and commentaries. He loved history, especially the west. He told me first hand accounts are the most significant because a personal account is less likely to be told with bias or agenda and also because it is the most respectful way to honor those that lived through it, on both sides. Needless to say, his words and opinion is still with me. Thank you. ❤

[@LibbySlaughter101]

Thank you, from Sydney❤🇦🇺

[@SadieYak]

If you're interested in this story, I recommend reading Chevato by William Chebahtah. Chevato was the Apache warrior Hermann referred to as Billy Chiwat. Chevato helped Hermann to join the Comanche (he didn't join them himself despite his claim), brought Apache peyote rituals to the Comanche, and eventually married Quanah Parker's neice. Chevato was also an Apache scout for the army during the Apache Wars.

[@datesanddeadguys]

Thank you.

[@SadieYak]

@@datesanddeadguys excellent video by the way!

[@Hava_Hadi]

Such a shame many don’t know this great read!

[@bernhardzipfel1489]

Very interesting - thank you!

[@bruceparks84]

Loved the story. Thank you.

[@jamescook5487]

Great story, I don't know the man who is narrating this but he does a fantastic job. Bravo to you sir, you are an excellent story tell, nay tellet of history! God bless!

[@datesanddeadguys]

Thank you, sir.

[@kobalt77]

This is absolutely fascinating, better than a movie ! Great work my friend, thank you for sharing.

[@mwh3227]

This is a story of epic proportions! Thanks for sharing!

[@rookandpawn]

I just discovered this channel. As a history fan and as a fan of Dan Carlin, this was an amazing story and I'm overwhelmed by the life of Herman as well as the storytelling. Very very awesome! Thank you!😊

[@charitysheppard4549]

Great video!! As a history lover, I think you did an amazing job of combining history and story-telling. The way tonget people to love history is by telling compelling stories, and you did! Subscribed.

[@uralbob1]

One of the best Indian stories I’ve heard! Thank you!

[@toddjackson164]

This is great I wish there were more films / screen plays developed that depict the natives point of view.

[@AVToth]

This happened near where I grew up. My great grandmother as a child, had an encounter with indians from this band.

[@dougearnest7590]

There is an interesting "Whites captured by Indians connection" here. For those who don't know, Quanah Parker was the son of Cynthia Ann Parker, who had been kidnapped at 9 years of age by the Comanche and eventually fully intigrated into the tribe and married a Comanche Chief (Peta Nocona - Quanah's father). From the Wikipedia article: " As a tribute to his great affection to her, he never took another wife, although it was traditional for chieftains to have several wives." Her story was much more tragic as she never assimilated back into White society after her capture/rescue following the death of Peta Nocona. She died of a broken heart after the death of her daughter (Prairie Flower). Eventually their remains (Cynthia Ann, Prarie Flower, and Quanah) were all reinterred to the cemetary at Fort Sill where they could be buried together - may they rest in peace.

[@laura4dsunshine]

The first person (a female) known to be kidnapped by Natives was by the Delaware Indians way back on the east coast at the beginning of the country (1600s). She was stolen from her family and never returned.

[@aleksbrooks535]

The whore is pregnant!

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

@@laura4dsunshine 1600s isn't the beginning of the country. That was the beginning of European nations exploring and colonizing the New World. The beginning of the USA would be soon after the French-Indian War when the seeds of revolution and self governance were being sewn.

[@stephenkennedy8305]

​​@@Bonzi_Buddy People needed to settle here so yes it was the begining of the country now know as USA. Were there other events yes, but it started with people settling here.

[@JMS-to3xb]

I find these stories to be so brutal but yet so absolutely fascinating. Thank you sir for this amazing video!

[@verbalswagrawkey1932]

Dude, I'm so glad that I landed here. I could picture all of it as if I was reading a great book. Thanks

[@reddiver7293]

Amazing tale! Thank you so much for this fascinating video!

[@philipberry1633]

What a story! Has this ever been made into a movie? It would make a great one. My grandmother 6 or 7 generations back was kidnapped by the Miami tribe in the 1750's. Her name was Jane Frazier and there was a great book written about her story in 1947 by a cousin of my grandmothers Ruby Frazier Frey, called "Red Morning". It is also an incredible tale of survival and ultimate return home.

[@datesanddeadguys]

I just read the synopsis. Imagine being held captive 18 months to find your husband remarried because he thought you were dead. Holy moly.

[@philipberry1633]

@@datesanddeadguys Right?

[@texasjasper]

The series “The Son” used a lot of Herman’s story.

[@randpherigo9724]

A very good friend of mine named Jamie Frazier looked indian w blue eyes.. (unmistakable) & tan year round..lol

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

@@philipberry1633 Europeans have not been here for 6 or 7 generations. The 7th generation will fall -COMANCHE NATION

[@joebalderas789]

Badass story, enjoyed the hell out of it.

[@Tiogadon]

Great video!! Very informative. Thank you for posting!

[@Phenn5589]

Great story. And you told it well. Thank you.

[@loneranger8343]

What a incredible amazing story! I grew up reading comics and books about wild west but true stories are always my favorite. And this story deserves to be made into a movie. You have a like and sub!

[@keithwinsett7157]

A great depiction of the book “Nine Years Among The Indians.”

[@100HoneyComb]

This is one of the best ones yet! Should be a screenplay

[@charlenestrauss3539]

Wow, these stories are so interesting

[@DaleSides]

I get so excited when I see you got a new video out. Love the way you tell these stories.

[@datesanddeadguys]

That is about the best compliment I can get. I greatly appreciate it.

[@GrahamBarnes-p2r]

What a great story that was about Hermann. Very well told as well. Thank you for sharing. GWB

[@slaterhorsetraining]

Thank you for putting this thing together. Well told, and the art to go w/ it was beautiful.

[@aatosvuorms7303]

Do we need more of these ? Hell yes

[@judithcampbell1705]

This is the first story I've seen and now I want more. It would make a great movie. As long as they kept it real. Herman was an incredible young man. A real warrior and a survivor. I thank you very much for your time and hard work putting this together ❤. You did an excellent job! Ty

[@marydesmond9595]

Hollywood would screw it up.

[@ForestGirlTeresa]

A fascinating and historically important narrative. Thank you so much. This boy had amazing courage and a strong will to survive.

[@apachegypsy88-98]

Such an amazing story!! Thank you so much! Keep the native stories coming please!!!

[@paranoid5881]

Yes, Native stories, not INDIAN stories

[@karylhogan5758]

Am listening to this from Ireland .. Am kinda blown away…a lot to think about , and all this not that long ago really…🇮🇪

[@Priscilla-j4t]

Hard to believe what humans do to each other!

[@MrPossumeyes]

Fascinating. Thanks, man. What a life that young feller lived. I'm blown away.

[@sandicmxr]

What an interesting story. Thank you for bringing it to light.

[@karolawinter6249]

Fabulous story. Thank you for sharing this with us. I love Native Americans. Karola, Croydon UK

[@Ivantheterrible81280]

A 14 year old kid could ride a horse, fight in war, travel 300 miles across the arid plains hunting and finding water. 14 year old’s today: I want to pretend I have an innie, not an outtie!

[@ianyoung6706]

Yes, and words are trauma.

[@daviddavis7136]

and that, ladies and gentlemen is our future, were screwed

[@Sean-qx2co]

14yr olds td cry taking the garbage out

[@DanielBoyle-e2u]

You have the greatest native history stories I have ever heard. Love it, keep up the great work.

[@lafko79]

You are a great storyteller!

[@MayaMaya-om2vv]

Excellent. Beautifully done. What a story of endurance & courage. Yes I agree, it would make a terrific film. So long as made on authentic lines, hopefully with you at the helm.

[@AlexandarTheGreat]

Man, this is one of the most interesting stories I've heard in a long time. Your storytelling is on another level.

[@ToddOleg]

Been on an Apache kick lately myself - this was perfect! Thanks!

[@debrawoolahan2301]

A story brilliantly told, thank you.

[@mudkoerfgen9843]

👍 from Perth Western Australia - Herman Survived a very Tough Upbringing

[@datesanddeadguys]

What a life. He died in the early 1930s. It’s so crazy that there are likely people alive today that met him. One person away from first hand accounts like this.

[@TheBatugan77]

Hey Mud... Visited Perth & Fremantle. You guys treated this Yank as one of your own. Wonderful towns. G'day!

[@pattysoucie24]

You have the best channel on KZbin.

[@loadstarnarcos3649]

Fantastic Video man, this story would make an epic movie! Great content man can't wait till your next video!

[@datesanddeadguys]

I appreciate it, thank you. A lot of work went into this one.

[@patrickspacek7783]

I own one of the really old fort apache sets and really nice i still own it really wish they would make stuff like that again

[@giaatta9303]

Such a fascinating story. Thank you. Young people think they have it hard these days. Oigh!

[@datesanddeadguys]

My life is so easy. One of my favorite discussion questions is “How much money would someone have to give you to go back to the year 1900 and live out the rest of your life?”… There is nothing you could give me. I am safe, fed, and I have everything I need. Plus I have antibiotics, clean water, modern healthcare and surgery, modern transportation, the internet, air conditioning, heat, I can outsource anything I can’t do (within reason), and KZbin how to do anything I want to do myself. What a different world just 120 years ago.

[@Kees247]

What a story! Great video. Thank you.

[@sandidavis820]

I love history and will be watching your channel often. I have never heard this story before, although I have heard of Quanta (sic)Parker and his Mother. Thank you Sandi Davis

[@RetroClipArt]

Wow. What an absolutely fascinating story. Those paintings of the indians are amazing too.

[@clyde8drive]

just found your channel and thought this story was told very well. Already ordered the book so appreciate the highlight you gave. Like your style, its what I have been looking for. No corny jokes or flamboyant voicing. Done perfect. Thanks for your effort.

[@NevsTechBits]

Commenting for support. Thanks for the good stories.

[@geraldwilliamson3478]

What an amazing story and well told. I'm going to check out the book now

[@dougwood8549]

I discovered your videos, and I must say. The sound quality on your latest ones are alot better. You sounded like you were talking into a can in your earlier ones. I"m so glad your subscribers list has grown. You've done excellent research, and I don't find these stories as interesting on other channels. You're good at this.

[@huntman9521]

Great job on your Apache series, very interesting & accompanied visuals!😊 Special times back then: REAL!!

[@datesanddeadguys]

Thank you thank you.

[@mikef.1000]

What an astounding story -- thanks for relating it so well.

[@suzanneh.3822]

Thoroughly enjoyed this. Can’t thank you enough for your hard work and dedication.

[@datesanddeadguys]

That’s very kind. Thank you. These stories are fascinating to me.

[@grysman6.5]

Super interesting. What a life. And to think it's a true story...

[@xxxxbigrich5752]

I really appreciate the work you put into making such a great video! I really enjoyed the great length you went into explaining this in a way that I understood where you were going in this story! Thank you I look forward to watching more!!

[@datesanddeadguys]

I really appreciate it. Thanks for watching.

[@lorrainericardo8680]

thanks for that bit of history ,, it's good to hear about real history no matter what ,,

[@shanereynolds4276]

Love these stories. You ever read a rough trip through paradise? It's along these lines.

[@datesanddeadguys]

I have not but I googled it and this dude seems fun. It seems right up my alley. Thank you.

[@DrCarlaSeleme]

Thank you for this concise, well executed video. I appreciate the new information and insights that you delivered. I look forward to your other video’s.

[@echostarling84]

"Hoping they know ASL, American Sign Language, or NASL," Native American Sign Language? your humor is awesome

[@tanyas8596]

I literally just paused at that point in the video to make sure I heard him correctly LOL. Awesome!

[@ernietaylor5376]

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[@magnushedman1076]

huuuh what a genuine story!!! many thanks!! and great storyteller too!

[@ciscoguru69]

I'm a Texan. I knew the Apache were bad but, it was the Comanche that were truly terrifying.

[@Kevin-jb9fo]

They joined forces with the US Army and the Mexican Army and everybody else to overtake the Apaches. The Apaches fought against every other race of people all at once and are still here.

[@stevekowalski4348]

Typical Texan. Nobody asked but you just had to throw your ten gallon hat in there. Yeah, the Comanche were terrifying, you'd see them coming across the plains on horseback and go "oh fuck!" You never saw Apache.

[@ciscoguru69]

@@stevekowalski4348 First off, I wear a ball cap with my college alma mater nicely stitched on the front. Second, I never said anything about "seeing" an Apache, though my mother-in-law is part Apache. Third, like most Texans, I was taught Texas history, which covered the native tribes of Texas. The Apache were formidable but, the Comanches were a war machine. Last, I think you're just jealous of Texans...haha! Go on ahead with your snide comments, Polski.

[@blackbetsy59]

No doubt the Apache and the Comanche felt the same way about the white men who felt they had the right to invade and take over their country. It's all relative.

[@scrappyxlocxx2281]

@@stevekowalski434810 gallon hat 😂😂😂

[@judypierce7028]

This story is just awesome! Really love this channel. I have read books about women who have been kidnapped by various Native Americans.

[@ittybittykittymama7582]

Thanks for a great accounting of the history of this country's native peoples. We are not, we're not, animals or just thieving drunks. We were and are proud people with a rich spiritual life and history. Thank you!

[@mogznwaz]

Sure, but also capable of violence, savagery, butchery, tribalism, slavery and genocide. Not making a judgement per se but I don’t want to hear ONE word about white ‘oppression’ when the natives oppressed many others for CENTURIES. There is no moral high ground to take when it comes to history.

[@cervezafria4807]

@@mogznwaz one thing that differentiate them from whites though. letting alone the kidnapping, they fully assimilated and integrated anyone in their culture. White kidnapped, but nope, they didn't integrate anyone.

[@mikesmollin2043]

@@mogznwaz I understand your point when both sides have military power, but I have to ask to make sure you are not covering for another motive here. Do you think white oppression applies to slavery of black people then? Or should they have "pulled up their boot straps" by now? Cuz I have a feeling your politics is affecting that statement, not objectivity. Cuz someone else committing a crime does not give another the right to do it. If I am wrong about you then great, I apologize if that is the case

[@mogznwaz]

@@mikesmollin2043 What other ‘motive’ is there? My point is that all tribes, in all places and times, have warred and enslaved and conquered other weaker peoples.. This has been the historical default. European imperial powers were also in their turn also the victims of otter imperial powers. Native Britons were conquered and enslaved and integrated into invading Saxons, Normans, Vikings, Romans and others. No doubt the resulting people had learned the lessons from this history and decided they would never be ‘the conquered’ again. Why is that history of oppression and war and enslavement and emancipation any less important than more recent ones? The consequences of each have had their own myriad ripples. Sitting there and going on about oppression and reparation or whatever just doesn’t hold any water because, you know, what makes them so special?! I consider it a huge positive that slavery is no longer legal nor considered morally neutral. Be grateful to live in the first era of history where that is so.

[@mikesmollin2043]

@@mogznwaz You didn't answer my question, I did not ask if you thought slavery was ok, do you think that white oppression has no sense being taught when it comes to slavery in this country. Or do you think there is no moral high ground there cuz natives sold slaves so that justifies whatever white people did? that is what I am asking cuz I am trying to see if you are saying that actually from an objective position, or if it is politically motivated. History can be objective, but the political issues of a country are unique and tied to that stuff in a personal way. For example, many cultures have done slavery, but in the USA it is a uniquely sensitive issue when it comes to black people, and you can't just point at another example of slavery somewhere else and say it's not a race issue, it's all good now. Cuz i get the sense you are taking this position for right leaning reasons. If I am wrong, then I am sorry, I am asking if you think systemic racism is a problem in modern day, or is it not real?

[@glennatnatglen964]

Great video. I have always loved native history. I'm from Canada. The story of Deerfoot is amazing and worth sharing.

[@wesleyestill7653]

Thank you for sharing this report.

[@franciscoarana6626]

Fortunate to have found your channel. Will now always follow your vids.

[@johnoconnor6750]

Great story! Great research! Keep it up, not too many of us really know our American heritage,

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Oh my instant sub. Very well done content here my friend.

[@jessepercoco5254]

Wow, it's remarkable to see how far your channel has come in such a short time. If anyone hasn't seen some of his past videos, I'd highly recommend. I was hooked after the farming video.

[@garysandburg8199]

Great story. I look to seeing more. Take Care.

[@thegadflygang5381]

Incredible what an eloquent and expressive writer Herman turned out to be, "as the veil of savagery slipped" really hit home. Definitive proof of "nature" being superior to "nurture". Great channel by the way. I can't believe i am just hitting it now

[@somniumisdreaming]

Not really he tried to escape from his fwmil6, he wasn't happy. He ended up living on the reservation towrite his book.

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@somniumisdreaming say what? I just read both his books what are you talking about. He was "nurtured" under savagery but his "nature" brought him back to somewhat normalcy. Granted he was always a bit fucked up afterwards which is understandable as it is the single greatest case of child trauma I have ever read about but he did alright. Was kind of a celeb actually on the whole Wild Bill-esque show scene

[@Michele_78]

Just found your channel and have been binge watching all day!! Thank you for the content! It's Definitely helped this cold, stuck in the house day here in Indiana ❤

[@anthonyvalor8030]

Amazing job!!!! I loved it

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

Thank you for telling stories with respect...just subscribed

[@kelliethomas8171]

Awesome story!! Quanah was family. From my mother's side. Thank you for sharing!!

[@getthepicture4790]

I really liked this video, thanks for producing it and sharing it.

[@SpeezyFBaby93]

Amazing video. Love what your doing. Wish you much success.

[@datesanddeadguys]

I appreciate it. Thanks for watching.

[@hansg6336]

A case of reality eclipsing fiction. A truly fascinating account of one young man's epic immersion into a wildly divergent culture.

[@lanaconin5704]

Very cool story, it’s hard to find interesting documentaries, so many are monotonous and hard to engage in. This was well told

[@cristianne3040]

Wow brilliant story. You caught my imagination, very well told. It's always good to learn, and this was very interesting. I will be watching more of your videos from now on.

[@datesanddeadguys]

Love to hear it. Happy you enjoyed the story.

[@mechanicman8687]

That was really interesting. Thanks!!!

[@wayneb1597]

James B. Gillett's book "Six Years with the Texas Rangers" talks about the Rangers chasing the Apache and James Gillett shooting the horse out from under Lehmann.

[@morris1737]

Thanks for sharing the sunset. Spectacular

[@evankiefer3467]

This was such a compelling story, and the way you covered it was really well done! I do have one question, though: what was that western music playing in the background? It really added some extra oomph to the narration, though I would like to listen to it on its own as well!

[@datesanddeadguys]

I have used a handful of tracks on repeat through the Apache series. I am happy to hear they add something. They are stock music tracks through StoryBlocks. If you want a list I can send them over to you but I have not been able to find them outside of the software.

[@evankiefer3467]

@datesanddeadguys oh that would be awesome, thanks!

[@lonnygehring3043]

"The Last Captive" is another book that tells the story of Hermann.

[@Cardinal1957]

Fantastic story! Thanks for posting.

[@stephenjones345]

What a fantastic story. It just goes to show that true life is more exciting and interesting than any Hollywood made up tale.