💥 Apiguard Thymol Trial Ep. 2 of 3

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Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees

Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees

Күн бұрын

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@henryparrott2447
@henryparrott2447 2 жыл бұрын
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@thesidelinebeekeeper-craig6924
@thesidelinebeekeeper-craig6924 3 жыл бұрын
We used Apiguard this year on all of our colonies. We used 25g x3 due to 95 degree temps with 90% humidity. It worked well for us. Thanks for sharing.
@texasfriendlybeekeepers8210
@texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 2 жыл бұрын
hey Craig....you prefer Apiguard instead of Oxalic Acid vap?
@thesidelinebeekeeper-craig6924
@thesidelinebeekeeper-craig6924 2 жыл бұрын
@@texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 I like it better when there is brood present. I like OAV in winter for a clean up.
@schammond8993
@schammond8993 Жыл бұрын
I've just found this series. Thanks for taking the time as I know you are busy. I've been using Apivar after the Honey flow then over in winter. I decided to change it up this year with apiguard. I was a little nervous but this was very helpful.
@daverowden-RowdyBeeFarms
@daverowden-RowdyBeeFarms 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos
@horizontalbees
@horizontalbees 3 жыл бұрын
Kamon the hive still looking good after the first treatment. Thanks for all your help!!!
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
The bees seems to like this hive you made hopefully the mites will be toasted and we will have a nice hive to overwinter!
@CastleHives
@CastleHives 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. . I've never used thymol. Thanks for sharing Kamon.
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
No sweat in the next episode we will do a follow up alcohol wash and hopefully get the mites low where they need to be
@tprater65
@tprater65 3 жыл бұрын
Ian is rubbing off on you….”I don’t have a smoker lit”…. 🤣
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
Heaven forbid hahaha
@landerson1574
@landerson1574 3 жыл бұрын
Starting treatment on my yard tomorrow, mite count is not too bad. Tracheal mites have a good hold on a few hives, I hope this knocks them down.
@RyanMcDonnough
@RyanMcDonnough 3 жыл бұрын
Thymol seems like a nice late summer treatment option. I may try it next year.
@wayneshoneybees5439
@wayneshoneybees5439 3 жыл бұрын
I just removed apaivar strips and yesterday put some supers on. Got lucky this year. Golden rod just started to bloom.
@acrazykiwi6285
@acrazykiwi6285 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kamon, have you tried throwing a couple of handfuls of fresh green grass on your inner covers, work with our ants here, told cinnamon also works but haven't tried that myself
@6Deep6
@6Deep6 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. Just sharing my experience with the Apiguard Thymol. I noticed they moved the brood away from the treatment container. I think that is what you are seeing here too. Unfortunately, after my second treatment - the completely absconded!!! Like you say though, there are a lot of factors to consider. Maybe it was too hot. Maybe I treated too much for the temperature . I also thought that the colony appeared much more agitated. All their calm movements were gone and they were on edge. I think in this video versus your prior video, the queen appears to exhibit that more agitated movement I am trying to explain. I don't know. I'll try it again after the summer flow in a couple months (I'm in New Zealand).
@Sirskullet
@Sirskullet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I have yet to use any thymol gels, I have had great luck with Oxalic acid vapor, however this looks pretty easy and quick, Thanks again!
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks we will see on the next and final video if it killed mites well in this small trial
@beebob1279
@beebob1279 3 жыл бұрын
After extraction I used Apivar with mite loads at 2 per 100 in my hives. I used it for the recommended package. I removed the strips and a week later I checked mite loads. I was over five mites per 100 bees. IT's showing me the Apivar is no longer affective in killing mites. I'm putting formic acid on the colonies tomorrow because our temperatures are finally low enough to use it. I'm hoping I've caught them early enough. I'm tired of products that no longer work still being sold by the bee supply houses. Thanks for letting me vent.
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
No sweat when you pay good money for a product you expect it to do a good job. I haven't used apivar this year because it can't be trusted
@wishicouldspel
@wishicouldspel 3 жыл бұрын
Not only is "brood loss a little normal," IME its required. It's absolutely required. If your not sacrificing a few larva while using Thymol its not " hot" enough to do much good. One of my original expeiments 20 years ago with thymol killed massive amounts of brood. Much to my chagrin and total dismay originally. The long term results were fabulous. Not dismayed any longer.
@teddysweet3146
@teddysweet3146 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of dietary earth can I use around my bees
@jenniferdeghuee1615
@jenniferdeghuee1615 3 жыл бұрын
I started using Apiguard for my summer treatment last year. In NorCal the summer temperatures fluctuate greatly and are often too high for formic pro. The other challenge with using formic pro in August is that you need to have the entrances wide open, if using a slatted rack, you need to put a spacer under the bottom box and the rack for the bees to be able to move the air. At my house, the nectar flow ends in June, robbing becomes a big problem. Which treatment method you use should be based on your local conditions. This year I did half doses for longer periods (following directions) and had great results.
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information on your experience Jennifer 😊
@dougstucki8253
@dougstucki8253 3 жыл бұрын
Any reason you didn't just pull off the cover and put the tray right in there? That is what I do and the bees clean it out just fine. My treatment pretty much shut the queen down on two of three hives that I've treated so far. I'm sure that just adds to the effectiveness to have the brood break!
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Doug. I feel there isn't enough room for the tray in regards to the bees being able to get easy access. Perhaps there is but I doubt it. If there was I would totally open the tray and walk away!
@dougstucki8253
@dougstucki8253 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamonreynolds Ahhh, that makes total sense and I should have figured that out since I use a shim in mine to make space for the tray. I also leave that on for winter to act as a spacer for sugar or fondant on the frames and emergency feed.
@rayjohnson8329
@rayjohnson8329 3 жыл бұрын
Just applied my second treatment and was very surprised to find wax moth larvae in the supers I put back above the inner cover for the girls to clean up!! 1 frame actually slimed but not badly.
@mountaintroll7864
@mountaintroll7864 3 жыл бұрын
thats hive beetle larva and if they are getting to slimed stage you have a serious issue
@matthewreichel1942
@matthewreichel1942 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, I just pulled apivar strips from my hives after the 6 week treatment period using 4 per double deep placed in the brood and alcohol washed a 2% infestation. Pretty disappointed. Unfortunately I did not alcohol wash prior to treating.
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for sharing Mathew I hear reports like that all the time it seems
@SageandStoneHomestead
@SageandStoneHomestead 3 жыл бұрын
We barely have any drones in our colonies right now, one is 100% italian and the other 3 are a mixed bag. One queen is beautiful and dark and I suspect she has some carniolan.
@handydandy3359
@handydandy3359 3 жыл бұрын
So treatment can shut there laying down?
@aydahamann6018
@aydahamann6018 3 жыл бұрын
My Apigaurd was liquid. Small amount of gel, is that normal? It's not outdated. I spilled some liquid in frames😔. Went ahead n closed up hive. I will go check tomorrow, it's been 14 days. I hope I didn't kill all bees.
@daveshearn2743
@daveshearn2743 3 жыл бұрын
I know you are in a constant battle with hives beetles. I live in Pennsylvania and they are bad this year.. I would like to know your thoughts/strategies for hive beetles in your pulled supers before extracting.
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
Pull them and extract them within a couple days. All it takes is a beetle or 2 to cause some problems. Traps keep them low but not low enough
@daveshearn2743
@daveshearn2743 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamonreynoldsThat has been my method so far. I know your busy. Thanks for the response.
@evonnewhalen9794
@evonnewhalen9794 3 жыл бұрын
So are the frames for human consumption out of the hive? My hives are Layens hives. Can I put tray in the bottom of the hive below the brood area?
@dougstucki8253
@dougstucki8253 3 жыл бұрын
Thymol will give the honey a temporary smell and taste similar to Lysterine. It is still safe to eat, but may taste off. If you wait until next Spring to harvest the honey, the smell and taste will be gone and you won't notice it.
@jasonadams3781
@jasonadams3781 3 жыл бұрын
I used apiguard for the first time in July after pulling supers. Was very nervous with highs in the 90s. I did 30g on doubles and 20g on singles and nucs. I did 3 rounds 7 days apart. I had good mite reductions but it did shut the queen down. Do you think an OAV treatment at the end of the Apiguard with no capped brood would clean up whats left?
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
If there is little brood than yeah hit em and clean the rest up. The ol' one two 👊
@mmogg4045
@mmogg4045 3 жыл бұрын
what are solutions for aggressive ants?
@donbearden1953
@donbearden1953 3 жыл бұрын
K&L, are you expecting this treatment to harm the brood below?
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Don, the last treatment did damage a little bit of brood but it wasn't much. Maybe as much as the alcohol wash did. Could is be where some of the gel soaked into a couple of cells below the card? Who knows. I feel good about how the colony looked. Hopefully the last video, ep.3 will yield a satisfactory alcohol wash count. ROLL TIDE!
@charlierose8164
@charlierose8164 3 жыл бұрын
Kamon , how are you liking the carniolans ? I'm really thinking about getting some next spring. Are they as bad to swarm as some people are saying ?
@johnreynolds614
@johnreynolds614 3 жыл бұрын
First!
@schammond8993
@schammond8993 Жыл бұрын
Correction in spelling O A V. Stupid phone. lol
@robinfrazier9763
@robinfrazier9763 3 жыл бұрын
Well I don't like anybodys long hives. Rob.
@kamonreynolds
@kamonreynolds 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the bees have noticed a thing
@henryparrott2447
@henryparrott2447 2 жыл бұрын
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