Apollo Alpha H1 v TVS Protorq Extreme - Which one is for you?

[@asitkumarpradhan226]

I have purchased Apollo Alpha H1 for my NS 200 in 2020 it costed me Rs.9300. And i will say it is very good tyres of both city and highway rides. Rear tyre 37612Km & Front tyre 34770Km. Still now I'm using it. 😂

[@HighwayToHill]

Woww bro... That's crazy numbers. Full paisa wasool. Thanks for sharing... I didn't know it could do soo many kms. Insane! 😎

[@asitkumarpradhan226]

@@HighwayToHill My Pleasure Bro. 😇

[@shonith91]

Currently I am using M7 rr on my svartpilen and alpha h1 on my 390 duke. These imported tyres are in a league of their own. I have ridden my 2 bikes back to back on the same road many times and the thing that stand out about the M7 is the grip and how easy it is to change direction, the effort required to ride fast on the m7 is much less than the h1. The only let down is the short life. I am tempted to get the rosso 3 for the duke but i am held back as my yearly ridding has reduced to almost 2k kms.

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey... Thanks for sharing this with us. Yea... Metz, Pirelli and Michelin are in a league above. But they have also become quite expensive. Tvs, Apollo and other Indian manufacturers are some good options. 😎

[@mohanprasad998]

So I've been using Apollos on my fz25 and they are great for someone who used stock MRFs for the most part and even I've used them for 17500 kms. Now since I got used a R3 the fz25 will be used by my brother who doesn't cross 60 so I got a pair of Ceat zoomcruise plus and god the difference is immediate, the tyres simply don't inspire even 50% of confidence from Apollos, now I am looking forward to get a pair of TVSs for the r3 but let me take this opportunity to tell that changing tyre sizes is as good as sprocketing and affects acceleration, top speed, odometer reading everything and it's even more pronounced on R3. To reduce these differences and get close to stock I've bought 42T rear(JT) and a stock 14T(Esjot) front sprockets and a DID vx3chain. This is because there aren't any stock 140 section w rated tyres available so the only option was to go for a 150 section tyre and cancel out the difference with a one tooth lesser rear sprocket from ninja 300 and even then it's not completely back to stock, there is still a small percentage of error above stock. And apart from all these there is a small looks factor I've noticed when changed the fz25s tyres back to stock, the 150s do look ever so slightly wider especially after they've worn out and gotten flatter on the sides.

[@HighwayToHill]

@mohanprasad998 Hey thanks for taking the time to post. Quite insightful. It's unfortunate that a 140 section W rear size isn't available. Apart from all that ypu have mentioned, the height also reduces from 24.7 inches on 140 to 24.1 on 150 section. After the stock Metz at 140 on R3, the only other 140 I used was the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2. Stuck with 150s. No option.

[@RidewithSud-s1r]

Hey Came across chanel after long research and its very informative Currently riding Ns 200 with mrf 140 Want to upgrade to radials now please ans my question which will be help to me to buy tyres 1.Upgrading front tyre 100/80-17 to 110/70-17 is okay or not if its okay but not getting same aspect ratio ,does aspect ratio matter if it get changes by small diffrence ?? 2. REAR tyre was 130/70-17 then 2nd tyre was 140/70-17 which is okay i think But what if i upgrade to 140/60-17 again with front 110 /70-17 upgrade or Rear 150/60-17 with front 110/70-17 Which size combination is good if it is to be ridden daily city travelling, not into regularly long rides but Its mix of sunday rides and Occasionally long rides and sometime cornering What is your solution to this question and why ? And which would be better tvs protorq or apollo h1 ?

[@HighwayToHill]

@@RidewithSud-s1r Hey bro... Thanks for your comment and question. Sorry for the late reply. One size up is ok on front or rear. It will not create any issues. The difference is negligible. Would suggest not to go more than one size up. 100 to 110 is ok. 130 to 140 is also ok. I would first suggest TVS Protorq Extreme. It has both sizes 110 and 140. Else you can go with Apollo Alpha S1. H1 is 150 size at rear. Don't go for 150. I hope this helps.

[@RidewithSud-s1r]

Thanks for reply brother ,i was genuinely waiting for this reply ​@@HighwayToHill

[@ashithgounder7151]

Very detailed information! nice one mate and thank you :)

[@HighwayToHill]

Thanks so much! I hope it helped you. 😎

[@bosekjm]

Hai Highway to Hill..,.....,. You know I am using R3.,.I rode 18k on metzeler stock tyre... 65% is burnt out., If money doesn't matter, which tyre should i buy in ur opinion??? I am 50 years old and keep the speed in highway between 80 to 140. Getting 24.4 to 25.6 milage. The last R3 in Kerala. If money doesn't matter, what will be the best tyre for me??? Didn't Ride even a single kilometer in gutter road... He is that much precious to me..... The chain was tighten only once.., Among my 4 bikes, my precious diamond is my all and all R3. 0 maintenance.....

[@HighwayToHill]

Woww... Awesome! Thanks for sharing your story. If money doesn't matter go with a Michelin Road 6 or Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3. I love the R3! Cheers! 😎👍

[@mohanprasad998]

So my used R3 has a Apollo alpha H1 on it and considering the reduction in circumference after wearing out and the already existing sky high speedo error maintain a true 120 I've got keep the speedo at about 138 and I recently did a trivandrum bangalore ride maintaing those speed and got a overall mileage of 23. I guess the mileage is affected highly because of the smaller Dia of the tyre.

[@MrKlassic]

What's wrong with Michelin pilot street 2?? I thought it's better than both

[@HighwayToHill]

I spoke about Pilot Street. I mean 1. The first one. It's good for just touring and gives a longer tyre life. But with any bike of around 40 hp, I don't think you can extract much performance. I haven't used the Pilot Street 2 so not sure about those tyres. However, I have heard good reviews. Also, in this video I just wanted to focus on Indian companies. Thanks for your comment.

[@kaustavdas2105]

Pilot street 1 - nylon, cheap Pilot street 2 - radial, expensive

[@ukuser]

Apollo alpha h1 vs tvs protorque extreme which is best??,my bike rtr 200

[@HighwayToHill]

@@ukuser Protorq is better in grip and handling.

[@ukuser]

@@HighwayToHill tvs tyre life??,best 100/80/r17 section tyre you prefer?

[@HighwayToHill]

@@ukuser Yeah, life will be less than Apollo H1.

[@supermagnificentguysmg1793]

Hello Brother, you seem amazingly experienced and do help me out on this one query if you can: If money is no matter, what tyre is the best for good and bad conditions? Should I go for road 5 or Protorq extreme or any other? My riding is low, no touring, so no problem if it doesn't last, no problem if it costs a lot. But I want it to perform great in dry conditions as well as wet/bad roads with sand as i am in Bangalore which can have sudden rains / sand on a corner that I'm slightly leaned in. Thanks in Advance!

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey... thanks for stopping by on my channel and posting comments. Great to have you. I would definitely go with the Michelin Road 5. They are the best right now for for dry and wet weather.

[@supermagnificentguysmg1793]

@@HighwayToHill Thanks a ton man!

[@abhishekn9871]

Hi, was planning to change the tyres on my Pulsar N250 2024 model with 110/70 & 140/70 stock size... My riding is mostly in city with occasional highway, which will be better among these two? I don't require extreme grip, the stock tyres are pathetic in terms of everything, tyres shd last at least 15000km...

[@HighwayToHill]

@@abhishekn9871 Hey, thanks for your question. 140 section is very hard to get. Currently only TVS Protorq Extreme has a size 140 as far as I know which are steel radials. I'd suggest you go for this. On my R3, Protorq Extreme lasted for 12000 kms so with almost 8-9 nm less torque and less weight it should last for about 15000 kms. It has very good grip and handling. Way better than stock. 😎👍

[@abhishekn9871]

​@@HighwayToHill actually I'm planning to upsize the rear from 140/70 to 150/60...

[@HighwayToHill]

@@abhishekn9871 Apollo Alpha H1 will definitely do 15000 kms. You can get that at 150 section for rear and 110 for front.

[@abhishekn9871]

@@HighwayToHill but my heart is saying to go for protorq extreme...

[@HighwayToHill]

@@abhishekn9871 Hahaa... Always a confusion 😛 Life might be less but Protorq won't disappoint.

[@randm2901]

What do you think best for cbr250r??.

[@HighwayToHill]

You can go with Tvs protorq extreme or Apollo Aplha S1. Mrf has steel brace also which is getting good reviews.

[@randm2901]

@@HighwayToHill thanks

[@rushikeshgaikwad3098]

Great piece of content. Bro I have R15 V3. I would appreciate if you suggest to choose between H1s and protorq. 1. I ride on highways a lot. 2. Cornering grip is essential 3. Not concerned about bad roads as R15 is not for off roading.

[@HighwayToHill]

@@rushikeshgaikwad3098 Thanks bro! I would recommend the TVS Protorq Extreme bro. Cornering will be fun on these! They have a 140 section as well for the rear. These are H rated (210 kmph) so it's more than enough for R15. Else, go for 150 section rear. 😎😎😎

[@rushikeshgaikwad3098]

@@HighwayToHill great then…..shall install 150 section at rear for sure…

[@abhinand9960]

What's difference between Alpha H1 and S1?

[@HighwayToHill]

@@abhinand9960 Hey, one thing is the speed rating. H1 is W rated and S1 ia H rated. Also, H1 is designed and made for performance and sporty riding. S1 is more for city and commute riding. Not too sure about the compound composition. Hope this helps.

[@sounakghosh9335]

Hi, I have r15 v4. Thinking to upgrade to apollo alpha h1. What do you think & any suggestions?

[@HighwayToHill]

Yea.. It's a good choice. Lot of R15 owners are using it. It has all round performance.

[@Biswas61]

Bruh! can't thank you enough 👍🏻

[@HighwayToHill]

Cheers 😎🙏

[@akashm8725]

Which is best in rain 🌧️

[@HighwayToHill]

@@akashm8725 You can look at TVS Protorq Extreme which is good. Michelin Road 5s are excellent in rainy conditions.

[@mayukhsharma8465]

Im looking to change the tyres of my r15 v3 and came across your channel. The front tyre size 100/80 r17 and rear is 140/70 r17. Im looking for the apollo s1 140/60 r17 and apollo h1 110/80 r17 for the front as i want steel radials this time. Will this create any issue in regards to balance and overall handling? Im a bit concerned about this and cant make up my mind. Thanks in advance.

[@HighwayToHill]

I would suggest not to mix 2 different tyres for front and rear. Either go with both S1 or both H1. If you are worried about the size, one size up by 10 mm is not going to cause any issues. I hope this helps.

[@ankitkabeer2500]

What did you buy? I think it will be better if you got 110/70 r17.

[@Lostandfoundhere]

Heya, i need your quick answer as i am going to order tvs protorq extreme. The retailer told me that he can give me 2 different sizes 140 and 150 but the difference is that the front tyre is 110/70 in Z rating and the rear (140/70) is H. He says i can mix match the speed rating in case if i wanna stick to the recommended size. I aint rigid anymore so going woth 150/60 is also ok with me. now tell me which one shall i order. my ride is just about 5000 kms amd that too only Highways.

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey... Which bike do you ride and what's the stock size?

[@HighwayToHill]

You can go with 150 section rear. One size up will not be an issue at all.

[@Lostandfoundhere]

@@HighwayToHill Thanks a ton 🙏🏼

[@HighwayToHill]

@@Lostandfoundhere I have been using 150 over the past 3 sets of tyres.

[@Lostandfoundhere]

@@HighwayToHill Noted! ❤️

[@devendergupta_official]

I'm planning to install TVS Protorq on my Ninja 300. I guess it will do good

[@HighwayToHill]

@@devendergupta_official Absolutely... One of the best tyres out there today from an Indian manufacturer.

[@devendergupta_official]

@@HighwayToHill what I'm looking for is proper performance and not life. Also TVS and Apollo is kinda not that costly compared to Michelin or Pirellis. Do you have any other suggestions for performance, braking and cornering?

[@HighwayToHill]

@@devendergupta_official Michelin Road 5s are awesome!

[@rabinarayan3855]

Very accurate , on the kms , currently using Apollo alpha h1, on Duke 390 but due to the torque, it lasted till 16k

[@HighwayToHill]

@@rabinarayan3855 Hey awesome... Thanks for sharing your experience! Great to see you on my channel! 😎

[@akheelugwekar]

Im full into cornering/maybe track day once in a yr? Which tire should i go between the two??

[@HighwayToHill]

I would recommend the TVS Protorq Extreme!

[@akheelugwekar]

@@HighwayToHill cool!🕺

[@BBKMotoLove221]

What's the tyre pressure you are using? for the rear 150 section tyre.

[@HighwayToHill]

35 in city and 33 on highways. I ride solo. When I'm touring I have around 15-20 kgs of luggage. I'm 5 ft 9 and 65 kgs. Thanks for your comment. Cheers 😎

[@BBKMotoLove221]

@@HighwayToHill thanks for the reply, i also ride solo mostly but i love cornering. previously used to have 32 and when i changed the tyres, the guys there put 38 and said that is recommended. i later changed it to 34 because 38 felt very wrong while riding. btw, my motorcycle is a R15V3.

[@HighwayToHill]

@@BBKMotoLove221 For touring and highway riding I reduce pressure by 2 bars. Because I'm usually doing 100+... At these speeds I have noticed that the pressure increases due to high speed + temperature. 30 becomes 32 and 35 goes to 36/37, which is high. Yaa... 38 is too high.

[@Motoride48]

Informative ✨

[@HighwayToHill]

Thanks 😎🙏

[@vigneshbalasubramani5770]

Would have been wonderful if you could have captured a breif of what the warranty difference is

[@HighwayToHill]

@@vigneshbalasubramani5770 The warranty situation is always tricky with tyres. You have to read their detailed fine print. Lots of terms and conditions are there on how much can be compensated. This is based on how much percentage of thread is left etc. It's on their websites so please do read it. Cheers 😎

[@eb2291]

I just got H1s for my hunter 350 i hope theyll last long atleast 19000kms Helpful video keep it up

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey... Congrats for the new tyres. Thanks for stopping by on my channel and leaving a comment. I think Hunter makes around 27 Nm of torque so I guess it should be able to do 17-19 K kms. Bikes with high torque really eat up tyres 😛😛😛

[@yogeshpoojari153]

Hey, Which will be best for ns200 which i recently bought, can we upscale from 130 to 150 appollo H1 or should i consider 140 tvs protorq ? Mostly use for touring.

[@HighwayToHill]

@@yogeshpoojari153 Hey... One size up is ok. You can look at 140... Tvs Protorq is a great option. Apollo Alpha S1 is also available in 130 and 140. Apollo will give more life. Hooe this helps.

[@yogeshpoojari153]

@@HighwayToHill Thanks mere bhai 👏👍

[@yogeshpoojari153]

@@HighwayToHill Appolo Alpha S1 is much cheaper compare to TVS Protorq is there any difference in quality ?

[@HighwayToHill]

@@yogeshpoojari153 Tvs is much softer compound so life will be less. Grip will be better than Apollo. Rest of the specifications are samr.

[@Amreeyn]

Tvs protorq extreme 140 section is h rated.. Is it still good option to buy? For my r15 or should I upsize 10 and buy w rated 150 section for 1500 rs more?

[@HighwayToHill]

Yes, you can get for R15. Once size up is not going to be a problem. I have also upsized. R3 stock size is 140 however I'm using 150.

[@nexus3ooo]

Which is best for cornering?

[@HighwayToHill]

@@nexus3ooo Protorqs are great for cornering! 😎

[@m.rraghav817]

Bro i am leaning towards the apollo based on your feedback for my cbr 250r , was looking michelin pilot street radials which is a tried n tested but apollo with new waters i guess if it lasts 20k km then its worth it.

[@HighwayToHill]

@@m.rraghav817 Hey.. Apollos lasted around 17 K kms on my R3 so considering the weight, power amd torque on 250R, it should be able to do close to 20 K kms. Pilot Streets are version 1 or version 2?

[@sameershetye9228]

I have a thought.....TV Protorq For the monsoons and Apollo Alphas for the rest of the season.

[@HighwayToHill]

Yea... can be done. Will need some effort changing.

[@trojan2793]

TVS should be for summer and track days.. It's peak in performance

[@aswinmaxwrist885]

Bro i got tvs for 8k a set in Bangalore. Where u bought it?

[@HighwayToHill]

Lol.... Online at Torqueblock 😅 Dealers in Chennai didn't have it.

[@sushilmohite9326]

Sir, Pl do a review on MRF steel brace

[@HighwayToHill]

Definitely... that's my next set. But will take time. Yet to finish my Apollo Alpha H1. Some life is left.

[@adr2567]

Was contemplating between yhese 2 tyres and i think ill go for the Tvs. While I tour a lot on my bike, ive decided ill use the TVS as i want atleast one tenure with kickass tenure 😅😅

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey... great to see you on my channel. Thanks for your comment. Definitely worth a try. Good tyres!!

[@debasishbora4083]

Bro track used tyre ke bare mai apka kya review hai?

[@HighwayToHill]

Use kar sakte ho.... Wear and tear, damage etc sab dekh ke hi lena. Bahu zyada uneven wear hai toh mat lena.

[@m.rraghav817]

Pilot Street are decent mid level long lasting tyres, i think you should avoid pilot sporty, Michelin road 5s are one of the best . 14-15 k a pair

[@HighwayToHill]

Yea... If you wanna extract the maximum ouuta of your performance bike, Road5/6 are great. Road5s were 185000₹ when I last checked.

[@m.rraghav817]

@@HighwayToHill your right but good tyres ,but your not feeling off? As your stock rear tyre size is 140/70 if I'm not wrong

[@HighwayToHill]

@@m.rraghav817 Yea, you are right. Stock is 140. One size up is ok. I haven't experienced any drastic change. Mileage ia still the same.

[@premyadav-gy6hs]

bro i was exited for the michelin road 5

[@HighwayToHill]

Michelin Road 5 is great.... Expensive!

[@jeevanchaukar]

Now, TVS has come up with tyres with 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17 sizes which are suitable for bikes like the Triumph Street Triple, Kawasaki Z900 and many more mid size sports bikes. We need to compare these with equivalent Pirelli Rosso-3 and Metzeler M9RR which are pretty much the performance benchmarks (there are Pirelli Rosso Corsa-2, Super Corsa-2, Metzeler Racetek etc but I am looking for a comparison of mostly the more commonly used tyres).

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey... Thanks for sharing this. I really didn't have an idea that TVS had superbike sizes. Infact I didn't even know about Protorq Extreme. Do they even have a marketing team? 🙄

[@Fast_Flick]

Try the Rosso III.. Only if u r into performance.. Metzeler M7RR's r fab as well🙌🏻

[@HighwayToHill]

I had Rosso 2... Took some time to get used to. But the tyres are great. I'm sure Rosso 3 are great too! Thanks for the suggestion.... Cheers!

[@Fast_Flick]

@@HighwayToHill Rosso III is far ahead of Rosso II, bro.. Same with M7

[@HighwayToHill]

@@Fast_Flick Yeah... These are race spec tyres I believe.

[@Fast_Flick]

@@HighwayToHill Depends on usage.. These r street duty tires, bro.. SuperCorsa n Racetec r available for track duty..

[@HighwayToHill]

@@Fast_Flick Yeah... Rossos 3s can be used at track without any doubt.

[@2255-Achu]

Will you recommend tvs protorq extreme for R15 v3 ?

[@HighwayToHill]

Yes... But this is 150 section rear tyre which is one size up. You can use this or try the 140 section. I got to know that there is a 140 section for same TVS Protorq Extreme. Check it. For R15V3 I hope that it will last longer than most 250-300cc bikes.

[@Mr.6speed]

What's the difference between H1 & S1?

[@HighwayToHill]

@@Mr.6speed S1 is smaller size 130-140. More of city use. Speed rating is less and load index is also less compared to H1.

[@sarge12k]

If you like having fun in the corners regularly, then yes. My friend and I have been thrashing the Protorq Extremes on our V3's for the last few months and are very satisfied, apart from the soft tyre edges wearing out within 4000km of constant hill riding. The center is still alright though, and I think I can get 8000km out of them if I stop cornering and just do casual highway touring. I heard the Alpha H1's mess up the handling of the V3 a little due to their stiffness and weight, but I am yet to test and confirm this, but their advantage is they last twice as much as the Protorq Extremes.

[@vivekm1151]

Hi Highway to hill, Your videos are extremely put together and very well informed thank you for making such great content. Actually i have rc 200 non abs version i needed new tyre for those mostly ride is city and highways with tons of bad roads too so which tyre would you suggest me to get as my stock tyre are all worn out and i am in dilemma which one to get, might as well ask a professional 😋

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey... so happy to see your comment on my channel. I think I have some of the best viewers If there are a lot of bad roads, I can suggest the Apollo Tramplr ST. It has a block type pattern which can handle some bad roads, gravel type broken roads etc. It is 80:20. Road:Off-road. And is made for 150 to 250 cc. In fact some riders have used it on R3 also. I hope this helps

[@vivekmittal9715]

​@@HighwayToHillthank you so much for the recommendation i have never heard of this tyres before have been searching for quite sometime and you gave me the perfect recommendation. If you doing mind can you please suggest a few more things 1.will the ST/XR will be heavier for the bike and result in decrease of mileage and power as they are offroad 2. Can i go for XR as they are radial will they be overkill for a small bike like Ktm rc200 Thank you for always putting great videos. 👐

[@HighwayToHill]

@@vivekmittal9715 ST will be lighter actually because it is ply tyre. Not steel radial. XR will be comparatively heavy. I don't have an exact number in kilograms though. XR will cost more than ST. XR can be used for RC200 but even I feel it might be over kill. It's 70:30. It has a bit more pronounced block pattern. I'm not sure how it will behave on smooth tarmac. That's my only concern. I don't think mileage will be an issue.

[@wanderingjk2236]

🤘🏽

[@gradientO]

Alpha H1 for Classic 350? 😂

[@HighwayToHill]

No... I don't think this will fit Classic 350.

[@shahrukhshaikh2737]

Ok found it

[@HighwayToHill]

If you still have any questions... Do ping me.

[@anandb7516]

Hi broo...

[@HighwayToHill]

Hey bro... Wassup!