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Apollo Design Concepts From 1961 - Original Drawings Revealed

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Scott Manley

Scott Manley

Күн бұрын

Thanks to Ben for sharing these drawings he found in his Grandfather's files. These are drawings from the original proposal by North American Aviation for the Apollo Command Module. These were made in September 1961 before the Apollo program had decided to use Lunar Orbit Rendezvous to reduce mass requirements. As such the designs are built around landing the command module on the moon using a big lander.
Ben has shared the high resolution scans of the designs at apolloprelimin...

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@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 5 жыл бұрын
On how things get saved, my Dad was part of the team that mapped out the landing sites for Apollo. On thing the team started doing at one point was to create large (I seem to recall about 3' x 4') 3D vacuform models of the landing site. These were really thin and large; so, eventually, they usually got tossed. My Dad saved an entire set in the attic of our house and there they set for 40 years until my Mom was cleaning out the attic and decided they needed to go some place safer; so, she sold them to a museum. I imagine this happens a lot.
@davidcooper2589
@davidcooper2589 5 жыл бұрын
R.I.P.
@chaddraizin6616
@chaddraizin6616 Жыл бұрын
so glad they went to a museum!
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 5 жыл бұрын
I'd have to say that if the corpse dies _during_ the funeral instead of before it, that should probably be called a "Herculean" funeral, instead of a "Viking" one.
@anarchyantz1564
@anarchyantz1564 5 жыл бұрын
The space laboratory is obviously for housing the mystery goo to see how it reacts.
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 5 жыл бұрын
That isn't mystery goo , it is the Andromeda Strain.
@anarchyantz1564
@anarchyantz1564 5 жыл бұрын
@@bobroberts2371 Better cook up a batch of Squeeze then.
@Thumbsupurbum
@Thumbsupurbum 5 жыл бұрын
"Alright Bob, you know the drill. Time to EVA to reset to goo can!"
@francislauerBR
@francislauerBR 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Anorcus
@Anorcus 5 жыл бұрын
Scott could you do a video on rocket throttling, maybe a ksp doesn’t teach or something like that?
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 5 жыл бұрын
He did
@beekeeperhoneymoon8179
@beekeeperhoneymoon8179 5 жыл бұрын
@@dosmastrify Link?
@falafeldurum2095
@falafeldurum2095 5 жыл бұрын
@@beekeeperhoneymoon8179 search bar?
@SergKiev87
@SergKiev87 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, these what I asked: "Throttling down is a problem you say, but Scott, how can New Shepard liftoff and hover, and land on one engine with one nozzle?"
@mx2000
@mx2000 5 жыл бұрын
I love these hand-made engineering drawings. It is a bit like a lost art form.
@dotancohen
@dotancohen 3 жыл бұрын
In my university I was in the last class to do hand-made engineering drawings. That was 2007. The class afterwards was forced to pirate Solidworks.
@1TakoyakiStore
@1TakoyakiStore 5 жыл бұрын
Para wing concept for the Apollo bid? Well that's gonna make Amy of Vintage Space pretty happy.
@jedigecko06
@jedigecko06 5 жыл бұрын
+
@tsareric1921
@tsareric1921 5 жыл бұрын
My first thought upon hear that para wing.
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 5 жыл бұрын
@@tsareric1921 yes, it is SO WEIRD. Same thought occurred to me.
@tsareric1921
@tsareric1921 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tuning3434 My second thought is at how Leicester has a Gemini test vehicle for the wing and doesn't display it with a wing just hung from the ceiling.
@luke68stevens
@luke68stevens 5 жыл бұрын
But doesn't Amy already talk about that in her book? I'm sure she wrote a paper on the Rogallo Wing.
@peanuts2105
@peanuts2105 5 жыл бұрын
All hand drawn by men with slide rules and pencils tucked behind their ears while smoking no doubt. Legends.
@wjp6480
@wjp6480 5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather also worked at N.A.A. He was an instrumentation and hydraulic engineer and was a project engineer for Apollo 3. He left us with a few promotional posters published by N.A.A. Great stuff ! !
@Lew114
@Lew114 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad that someone preserved this important and fascinating piece of history. Thanks for doing a video on it.
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 5 жыл бұрын
There were coffee-table books in mid 60s with Apollo concept artwork. The design in these drawings didn’t get very far, they never saw public release probably because they were revised into oblivion faster than the draftsman could draw them.
@funnlivinit
@funnlivinit 5 жыл бұрын
They were also classified at the time.
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan Snowhook The coffee table books were pre landing and more accurate. So they were from classified drawings? I didn’t see any CLASSIFIED markings on the drawings.
@lancer525
@lancer525 5 жыл бұрын
@@larryscott3982 Corporate classification was generally used to prevent industrial espionage from other bidding contractors. They were internal classifications, and not related in any way to the U.S. Intelligence community's system of document classifications. HTH.
@bruceprice3514
@bruceprice3514 5 жыл бұрын
Those design drawings are awesome! I love everything about the Apollo program - the history, the design concepts for the vehicle and facilities, its all just fascinating how all these people went from knowing virtually nothing of what needed to be known -- the best way to get there and back, how to survive in the hostile environment, how to rendevous with another vehicle and survive to tell about it, the best designs for the needed facilities and just what facilities would be needed, and on and on. When I worked at KSC I read an excellent book that covered literally every aspect of the design, development and implementation of what would become KSC and the Apollo moon landing program. You have to be the kind of person that enjoys knowing every detail, because this book is just that, a highly detailed accounting of KSC and Apollo, including all the specialised structures and ground support equipment needed to make it all happen. Nothing is left out. The book was called "Moonport". I can't remember who authored it. I remember it was about 3-1/2 to 4 inches thick. Highly detailed from beginning to end, and full of detailed drawings and histories of all the major players along the way. Someone such as yourself, Mr.Manley, I suspect would enjoy and appreciate this accounting of this period of America's manned space program. I'm wondering if you've ever heard of or read this book...most interesting.
@bobcastro9386
@bobcastro9386 Жыл бұрын
"Moonport: A History of Apollo Launch Facilities and Operations" by Charles Benson and William Faherty. NASA SP-4204. Six hundred and thrty-six pages of great narrative, pictures, diagrams, charts and background information.
@jeffdacey1255
@jeffdacey1255 5 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see that some of this information is finding its way to being viewed by the interested public. Years ago, I was working for a contractor who were preparing a bid for Pad 39A at Cape Canaveral. To assist in the preparation for the bid, we were supplied with a ream of drawings for the original construction of the pad. There were civil drawings, concrete and rebar drawings, structural steel drawings of the structures on the pad, piping drawings, and plot plans of the entire area surrounding the pad. As an engineer, I was fascinated with the history of these documents.They were very detailed, and given the period, all created by hand. Almost oall of them were made just before I was even born. To give you some idea when that was, the first moon landing coincided with my seventh birthday. So naturally, the event captured my attention then and most certainly has had a lasting effect on my career choice. As was common at the time, the contract documents were considered confidential so no copying was permitted. Many of the documents still had the original CLASSIFIED stamps among others denoting the confidentiality of the documents for national security. I was very eager to make a site visit to satisfy my own curiosity (and to secretly fulfill a decades old childhood wish to stand on the very spot where the moon rockets lifted off). My operations manager denied the request, saying I'm a foreigner (Canadian) and not eligible to enter high security sites operated by NASA. I reminded him that a large number of the original NASA team of engineers and technicians in the late 50's and early 60's were Canadians, having been recently dismissed from the Avro Arrow project by the newly elected Canadian government at the time. I would love to see those drawings one more time. In the end, our bid was unsuccessful based on pricing, but I later found out that the winning bidder's technical proposal employed a very similar method to that I designed. Still, it would have been nice to put a NASA project on my resume.
@midge_gender_solek3314
@midge_gender_solek3314 5 жыл бұрын
Recently prepared a summary of a book in my university, it was "Soviet Space Mythologies: Public Images, Private Memories, and the Making of a Cultural Identity" by a Russian American author Slava Gerovitch. It has a lot to offer if you're interested about the cultural processes behind and around all this stuff.
@daleeasternbrat816
@daleeasternbrat816 5 жыл бұрын
The version that went to the Moon was a very well thought out and tested system. It had three design priorities: 1 safety. 2 Mission requirements. 3 Weight saving. These three things had the most influence on the equipment that finally went to the Moon. The part I can't believe is that we haven't been back in 50 years. What a shame !
@Tiisiphone
@Tiisiphone 5 жыл бұрын
Never saw any of these prototype drawings before. Very interesting!
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 5 жыл бұрын
7:08 There goes that pesky B Bus. . . .
@DarthQuietus
@DarthQuietus 5 жыл бұрын
All throughout the video I just can't get over how PRETTY the hand-writing is
@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 5 жыл бұрын
Cool seeing all hand made drawings with all the construction and lettering lines. I remember doing drawings like this in College. They require a lot of skill and LOTS of time; and, you can't really change all that much once you set the initial outlines. No CAD to allow you to do on-screen design.
@bimblinghill
@bimblinghill 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here at my old drawing board that I learned to do engineering drawings on in the '90s. Sadly now it just supports my monitor and a load of clutter. Obviously CAD superseded hand drawings for a lot of good reasons, the ease of revision being the biggest, but there are some visualisation advantages to doing things by hand. I still sketch initial concepts on paper.
@scottanderson8167
@scottanderson8167 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thanks to Ben and his grandfather for this priceless historical artifact.
@clarewulf2054
@clarewulf2054 5 жыл бұрын
Buzz is a damn legend, my favourite of the Apollo astronauts.
@JettQuasar
@JettQuasar 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Apollo designs! I need to build those and try them out for myself.
@MrNight-dg1ug
@MrNight-dg1ug 5 жыл бұрын
You what
@lukesmith8896
@lukesmith8896 5 жыл бұрын
I know accidentally engaging the Tachyonic Antitelephone on your browser is common in the future, but 2019 isn't even the default option
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrNight-dg1ug 🎶 Kerbal 🎶 _essences_
@chris-hayes
@chris-hayes 5 жыл бұрын
We found Kim Jong-un's alt account
@farmingtonfakenamington3048
@farmingtonfakenamington3048 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard of the Apollo parawing design before and saw a picture and one major difference between the Apollo and Gemini parawings is that instead of the capsule nose being pointed forward like the Gemini parawing on the Apollo the capsule would have the nose pointed up and the heatshield on the bottom. Also you should check out the Bono mars glider it was pretty insane.
@jeffvader811
@jeffvader811 5 жыл бұрын
That Mars glider is incredibly Kerbal!
@edklein2388
@edklein2388 5 жыл бұрын
I'd just read "The Man Who Knew The Way To The Moon" - all about John Houbolt's fight to get NASA on the path to LOR and was going to suggest you try to build a Kerbal lunar mission without LOR. Awesome timing!
@scottmanley
@scottmanley 5 жыл бұрын
The Kerbal universe is so small that LOT isn’t much of an advantage.
@edklein2388
@edklein2388 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottmanley But with RSS/RO......
@AaronHatfield7
@AaronHatfield7 5 жыл бұрын
Just finishing up that book myself! It is amazing to see the other side. I thought of how impossible it would have been with that design to choose a new landing site on the fly like Armstrong did.
@danamunkelt3276
@danamunkelt3276 5 жыл бұрын
My Dad worked at Convair at this time, and they bid on the LEM, including a full size mock-up. Some of us employees kids got to see that one Saturday. There must be drawings somewhere for all the proposals. That would be great to collect and publish.
@Slikx666
@Slikx666 5 жыл бұрын
A big round of applause for Ben. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@wheeln24-79
@wheeln24-79 5 жыл бұрын
It was cool you got to see the apollo agc those guys restored. Waiting on the next video and hoping they eventually try to replicate parts of the flight!
@MichaelAnthonyStiber
@MichaelAnthonyStiber 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The AJ10-137 engine that was used on the CSM was twice as powerful as needed because the engine was initially sized for a trans-earth injection scenario. The Apollo variant used Aerozine 50 and nitrogen tetroxide. This engine has a long and storied history - Atlas, Titan, Apollo, the Shuttle, and even the upcoming Orion. Perhaps a video on this engine would be of interest to your followers Mr. Manley Man? Originally the astronauts were to use a pulley system to hoist themselves to and from the lunar surface. When this proved too cumbersome, they opted for a ladder.
@micahbaird3588
@micahbaird3588 5 жыл бұрын
The quality of these handmade drafts is incredible. With this glimpse of the quality and quantity of the innovation that generation of post-war engineers were able to produce, it makes sense that they were able to pull off the impossible and land on the moon in less than a decade.
@bigguix
@bigguix 5 жыл бұрын
its frikkin amazing what NASA (and the USSR) were able to achieve in such a small amount of time, !! starting from almost 0, all these designs, all the fabrication, all the testing, thinking about eeeeverything !!! what an achievement !
@bobmar9239
@bobmar9239 5 жыл бұрын
Wernher von Braun started in the 30s.
@TaxPayingContributor
@TaxPayingContributor 3 жыл бұрын
As a past life music box creator employed as watch maker, I appreciate the balance between concept and feasibility
@grayaj23
@grayaj23 5 жыл бұрын
Scott: My father worked at United Technologies in the late 60's and early 70's -- my recollection is that he was a slide-rule jockey calculating yields and other parameters for various different rocket engines. Some of the work he did involved a competing proposal for the reusable launch vehicle. He lost his job ca. 1973 (vague recollection of my dad being unemployed and making a miserable try at selling insurance) when the competing proposal was rejected and what became the Space Shuttle was proposed. (Later, 1975-ish he got a new job at Lockheed doing satellite tracking and telemetry at (what is now) Onizuka AFS -- "The Blue Cube") Anyway he always said that the proposal he worked on was superior -- he probably explained why, but if so he explained it to an 8 or 9 year old who is now 54. I can't remember if it was *the* Pegasus or if he said it was similar to the Pegasus. He wasn't a bigshot or anything, just one of a number of design engineers working on specific parts of the proposal. (Bonus: ca. age 7-ish I got to watch a test-fire of one of the rocket motor designs my dad worked on, at Coyote Ridge in Santa Clara Co. I remember a huge orange streak and that it was LOUD despite us being ~1 mile away or so.) (Of course, it's been so long that I may be completely wrong about the whole thing.) It would be great if you could do a vid or two about the losing bids/bidders/programs. LMSC's delta-wing design looked super cool (the LS-200).
@chrisantoniou4366
@chrisantoniou4366 5 жыл бұрын
It's sad how the engineers were discarded in such an arbitrary fashion back then. "Superior" proposals are seldom superior if when deadlines are an issue...
@venusiancreative1774
@venusiancreative1774 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see these earlier designs for Apollo. Starship is the first to launch from earth and land directly on the moon with the Lunar Starship.
@kevinagnew1519
@kevinagnew1519 5 жыл бұрын
From the Earth to the Moon episode Spider is the best episode of the entire series.
@repairitdontreplaceit
@repairitdontreplaceit 5 жыл бұрын
great to see you in the apollo agc video :)
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 5 жыл бұрын
WOW what a find I just HAVE to go and see.. thanks BEN! and thanks SCOTT!
@SmartrMelons
@SmartrMelons 5 жыл бұрын
I was 10 when Alan Shepard went up in Freedom 7. My dad (teacher) gave me the mailing address to Alan and NASA, so I sent him a letter. Alan responded with a letter, sent pics, one signed, and all kinds of info about the mission and NASA. Been a fan ever since. Too bad I don't have the packet he sent anymore.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be skeptical but I have to think that was a secretary with an autopen. Every kid in America must have written to Shepard.
@khj5582
@khj5582 5 жыл бұрын
I'm most impressed by the handwriting.
@tylerstagge7465
@tylerstagge7465 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer who has only ever worked in the world of CAD and abundant computation, these sorts of peeks into the era of drafting tables and slides rules are so damn fascinating.
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool Ben! Thanks Scott :)
@decus9544
@decus9544 5 жыл бұрын
I've always found engineering drawings to be elegantly beautiful.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 5 жыл бұрын
I have a cool book somewhere with all kinds of designs for the Apollo Saturn system that were supposed to build on the initial moon landings. Habitats, cargo LMs, all kinds of cool stuff.
@11nygren
@11nygren 5 жыл бұрын
Do you remember the title?
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's published by Apogee Books.
@machy8515
@machy8515 5 жыл бұрын
What is it called?
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 5 жыл бұрын
@@machy8515 Found it. Lunar Exploration Scrapbook. Go to Apogee Books website and look it up. Also, check out the vast pile of cool books they publish on space stuff. I have a bunch of them and some of them are crude and poorly printed but the ones on the Saturn V and the DynaSoar are great, so is the one on the Atlas rocket family, called "Atlas: The Ultimate Weapon".
@5Andysalive
@5Andysalive 5 жыл бұрын
Quite a way to "make the engines so simple they cannot fail".
@unavailable8813
@unavailable8813 5 жыл бұрын
r/woooosh
@ufootje
@ufootje 5 жыл бұрын
wonderful video! so good to put these in a website, and preserve them for history!!
@ypey1
@ypey1 5 жыл бұрын
I saw you on the CuriousMarc channel, when can we expect a video on that apolo computer refubish?!
@CDHord
@CDHord 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott! I appreciate the thoughtful reply. Love your content!
@jeffcox4538
@jeffcox4538 5 жыл бұрын
Scotty this was the BEST video you have ever produced. It took me back because July 20th is always a celebration for me. I am old enough to experience drafting in a class, and the drafting of these Images were legit! Also, your kerbals were going absolutely apeshit. I haven't played the simulator however it was entertaining to watch them freak out. Keep up the great work and welcome home.
@jeff15011
@jeff15011 5 жыл бұрын
Cool that they were working on these designs before the Kennedy Moonshot speech.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm Jeff. At least one complete concept was published as a book with von Braun credited as the main author.
@worsel2113
@worsel2113 5 жыл бұрын
Back in about 1965, I had a buddy named Sims, and his dad was an engineer. One evening we went with his dad to a meeting at work where they discussed some ideas for the Lunar lander. I think his dad worked for Bendix (it was in Ann Arbor, MI). I wish now that I had been a bit older to have understood more.
@craigcorson3036
@craigcorson3036 5 жыл бұрын
I always felt so sorry for the CMPs, having to remain in lunar orbit while the other two landed. This design would have enabled all three to go to the surface.
@ENCHANTMEN_
@ENCHANTMEN_ 5 жыл бұрын
oh no they _only_ got to go to space and orbit the moon :)
@craigcorson3036
@craigcorson3036 5 жыл бұрын
@@ENCHANTMEN_ Which is VERY cool, yes...but to get so close and not be able to go the remaining distance? It would have made ME crazy! CraziER.🥴
@datboi7669
@datboi7669 5 жыл бұрын
@@craigcorson3036 they knew what they signed up for. Dont feel bad for em
@davidgreen5099
@davidgreen5099 5 жыл бұрын
@@datboi7669 kind of a noodge, aintcha?
@datboi7669
@datboi7669 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidgreen5099 what makes ya say that?
@chrishunter7065
@chrishunter7065 5 жыл бұрын
I love this so much. I think I am going to print and frame some of these next to a photo of the physical finished design
@alexandracrawford800
@alexandracrawford800 5 жыл бұрын
I too appreciated your appearance, though surprised by your celebrity arrival at the venue of the official AGC power-up and operation with original recovered AGC program code reportedly last installed by MIT. A marvellous intimate collaboration to deconstruct and repair now ancient digital tech albeit with modern approaches but with tremendous patience, finally the great historic and inclusive reward. I was in 1984 on the island of Santorini (aka Atlantis) per chance to observe the arrival of an American tourist who had decided to climb the entire 1000ft+ cliff walkway from her cruise ship below to the final step into the centre of the peaceful, contemplative town/village of Thira. Upon which she uttered a highly credible "Honey? Where th' HELL are yuh!!!" As she teetered across the cobblestoned playa in her pearl high heels, turquoise slacks and puce blouse with a white silk head scarf that blew heroically in the cliff-top breeze... momentous!
@Parax77
@Parax77 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone should go listen to the "13 minutes to the moon" podcast..
@michaelhope8899
@michaelhope8899 5 жыл бұрын
Parax77 it’s an incredible listen
@BugRib
@BugRib 5 жыл бұрын
Parax77 - Yes! Incredible podcast! You will binge.
@crxstalline_
@crxstalline_ 5 жыл бұрын
The intro :D
@avejst
@avejst 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting design Thanks for sharing👍😀
@DanStaal
@DanStaal 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that J-2 was for primary burns, with the verniers speced for enough thrust for the final landing. The J-2 does the orbital insertion and deorbit (at higher ISP), and then is switched off for landing.
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 5 жыл бұрын
GE had a really neat idea, like a bigger Soyuz.
@Intermernet
@Intermernet 5 жыл бұрын
That lander has a lot of struts. I approve.
@pspicer777
@pspicer777 5 жыл бұрын
Gold. Pure Gold.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 5 жыл бұрын
Man Scott those are some very....Interesting drawings All slid rule stuff ....Great going my friend.....As always thanks a bunch.....To be sure...!
@riotintheair
@riotintheair 5 жыл бұрын
The story of how lunar rendezvous got adopted is one of my favorite stories from Apollo.
@quantumac
@quantumac 5 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of history there. Glad it wasn't lost!
@crayzeape2230
@crayzeape2230 5 жыл бұрын
Somewhere else on KZbin, who's knocking on the door? I knew who it was before the door opened, hope you got some good footage Scott.
@funnlivinit
@funnlivinit 5 жыл бұрын
My Father also worked for North American/Rockwell in the early 1960s. Though I don't have drawings, I do have orbital calculations in his collection of papers. But it would be pretty hard to tie to the Mercury, Gemini or Apollo programs, since they were classified documents at the time and he didn't label anything. I'll have to check with my brother.
@paultrappiel9943
@paultrappiel9943 5 жыл бұрын
Oooooh I would love those drawings Scott. A little scant on detail though these look like concept plans only.
@johnknapp952
@johnknapp952 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that North American Aviation won the contract. Else as a child I wouldn't have been able to see the huge test gantery for the Apollo Command Module at the Downey Plant. When I was in the Boy Scouts a number of our leaders worked on either the design and construction of the capsule.
@chriholt
@chriholt 5 жыл бұрын
Will you do a video about when you visited CuriousMarc for the first running of the AGC? It was a nice surprise to see you show up on his channel!
@odysseusrex5908
@odysseusrex5908 5 жыл бұрын
These drawings are clearly for a direct ascent architecture.
@scowell
@scowell 5 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing about the bid winners... you can read this in the Grumman book _Moon Lander_ by Tom Kelley... after they won the bid, the original ideas were thrown out by NASA... they said 'you won the bid, now you design the lander with us'. Not quite start all over... but still.
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 5 жыл бұрын
7:46 translation: stay tuned for vintage space to shortcut and half misrepresent a couple things seem here!
@Crimsonedge1
@Crimsonedge1 5 жыл бұрын
A J2 is a bit overkill for a lunar lander.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 5 жыл бұрын
Buck Fitches But not for a rocket that will fly from Moon to Earth... remember, this was a combined LM+CM, like all prior designs.
@chrisantoniou4366
@chrisantoniou4366 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 Yes, much heavier.
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke 5 жыл бұрын
I could "google it" but I thought the LEM design and manufacturing contract was awarded to "what was" the Grumman corporation.
@emm4rmstrong
@emm4rmstrong 5 жыл бұрын
Grumman designed the Lunar Module (the lander) while North American designed the Command and Service Module.
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke 5 жыл бұрын
@@emm4rmstrong Roger that!.... Thanks
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects 5 жыл бұрын
@Scott Manley The BBC mentioned the Bacon Hydrogen Fuel Cell, without which the apollo mission couldn't have happened. A British invention.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 5 жыл бұрын
Sparky Projects Was that the one that ran from the tanks that failed on Apollo 13?
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects 5 жыл бұрын
@John Francis Doe check the wiki page for Francis_Thomas_Bacon
@Miata822
@Miata822 5 жыл бұрын
Great find! Thanks for posting the link.
@ncc74656m
@ncc74656m 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, where's Vintage Space on that parawing? Bet she'd go nuts for that.
@AgentPepsi1
@AgentPepsi1 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott. I love your videos! As far as the paraglider: It is my understanding that originally Apollo was supposed to land on the plains of Texas (near my home) around Childress / Wichita Falls. Furthermore, Apollo was supposed to have flown the glider to a specific point.
@daveh3997
@daveh3997 5 жыл бұрын
It is a fascinating glimpse of technology based on what NASA (was planning to use in Mercury and Gemini) blended with designs to tackle a new set of requirements.
@chrisantoniou4366
@chrisantoniou4366 5 жыл бұрын
This was proposed technology BEFORE most of Mercury and all of Gemini. Almost the whole point of Gemini was to prove the reliability of rendevous and docking in space.
@daveh3997
@daveh3997 5 жыл бұрын
​@@chrisantoniou4366 Right you are. I was thinking about the inflated-frame paraglider The system was known as the Rogallo wing for its inventor, Francis Rogallo. He had been working on flexible wings designs in 1948. His first workable design dates to his research at Langley in 1958. Although rejected for Mercury Mark II, parasails and paragliders were still considered for Gemini in 1963. The proposed use of ejection seats as in Gemini also appears in these plans. I worded it awkwardly, and have tried to clarify it in the parentheses.
@chrisantoniou4366
@chrisantoniou4366 5 жыл бұрын
@@daveh3997 No worries! :)
@PTNLemay
@PTNLemay 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the new intro.
@ToofKilla
@ToofKilla 5 жыл бұрын
I recommend the novel Space by James A. Michener.
@fensoxx
@fensoxx 5 жыл бұрын
Jakop Kragslay there isn’t another author quite like him. Alaska and Centennial were amazing too.
@ProWhitaker
@ProWhitaker 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@senya6095
@senya6095 5 жыл бұрын
The intro is so cute :D
@dennisjutzi7075
@dennisjutzi7075 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Scott good job as always
@sausagefinger8849
@sausagefinger8849 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@garywheeler7039
@garywheeler7039 5 жыл бұрын
Important historical documents.
@Graham-ce2yk
@Graham-ce2yk 5 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting. I have a document covering a test in 1962 using the same spacecraft design.
@MrFin487
@MrFin487 5 жыл бұрын
Ben? ...... ROCKS
@shleed
@shleed 5 жыл бұрын
You should use the Scot Manly intro from SWDenis's "Random Compilation 13"
@WOTArtyNoobs
@WOTArtyNoobs 5 жыл бұрын
Talking about Aldrin, should not be forgotten that on his Gemini 12 mission, the rendezvous radar became unusable and Aldrin, using a sextant, a notebook and tables he designed, managed to work out the precise thrust to complete the rendezvous manually. He was 'Dr. Rendezvous' as his Phd was in orbital mechanics.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 5 жыл бұрын
The "Doctor Rendezvous" title was not meant to be flattering. Buzz drove the other astronauts bonkers talking about rendezvous to the exclusion of everything else.
@WOTArtyNoobs
@WOTArtyNoobs 5 жыл бұрын
I guess Buzz felt that this was so important that he needed to pass this info to the other astronauts who were mostly just test pilots.
@dewiz9596
@dewiz9596 5 жыл бұрын
One of the major concerns before the Apollo 11 mission was the they had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of the nature of the Moon’s surface. There were concerns that the dust on the moon was so deep that the Lunar Lander would just sink into the surface. . .
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 5 жыл бұрын
Bram Moerman I think there were some unmanned probe landings to check. But it certainly was an open question in the 1950s, with a proposed multistage landing spike as one solution.
@vladimirlenin4080
@vladimirlenin4080 5 жыл бұрын
Please keep that intro
@k.6686
@k.6686 5 жыл бұрын
"Few weeks ago, somebody came to me saying they could repair my car on the highway ... " I like that new intro, atleast something good happened from it
@theOrionsarms
@theOrionsarms 5 жыл бұрын
This thing is huge, most flying with a giant rocket.Nova probable .
@MrRandomcommentguy
@MrRandomcommentguy 5 жыл бұрын
the original NAA proposal was a giant ship... so impressive.
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 5 жыл бұрын
My dad was involved in that!
@qcope
@qcope 5 жыл бұрын
Scott, OT.... but do you have any idea on what's going on with Galileo? It just seems bizarre that a major public financed infrastructure project can be down without any real information on what's going on. How long until its back up and running? Hours, days, weeks or months? GSA are saying nothing... which is just odd.
@komokolo4977
@komokolo4977 5 жыл бұрын
Haha that intro was adorable
@julianaframe4200
@julianaframe4200 5 жыл бұрын
holy shit imaging how much those drawings are worth
@Cby0530
@Cby0530 5 жыл бұрын
EVEN BETTER INTRO!!!
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 5 жыл бұрын
Amy Shira Teitel would be interested in this website.
@SimplySpace
@SimplySpace 5 жыл бұрын
Got to distract myself from the cricket, thanks Scott. -A gutted New Zealander
@scottmanley
@scottmanley 5 жыл бұрын
You have my sympathies.
@benclewett
@benclewett 5 жыл бұрын
What a game - an ecstatic Englishman!
@mngbb11
@mngbb11 5 жыл бұрын
i don't know much about cricket, but now i know its got some dumb ass rules - a bitter New Zealander
@matthews4159
@matthews4159 5 жыл бұрын
the first contact awarded to Apollo was the guidance computer, since the computer ended up being a fly by wire system and a virtual representation of the capsule Luna docking, became possible because it was a virtual reality experience? maybe Apollo should be looked at in a different light altogether, the beginning of big data projects
@FandersonUfo
@FandersonUfo 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff - ty
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