Apollo Justice Ace Attorney with an Actual Lawyer! Part 29

[@SaveDataTeam]

Are you excited for this case? We've heard many conflicting reports! Let us know in the comments down below! Check out Nezumi's Channel here: kzbin.info Support the channel and get your name included in the patreon song: patreon.com/savedatateam Highlights/Edits: 00:20 - Pepperidge Farms never 5gets 7:21 - Valant's television trick 8:25 - The hottest magician troupe ever 9:56 - You'll never lay a finger on my butter cookies 11:33 - Dad of the century 17:52 - Why the "Jurist" system doesn't make sense 21:19 - "No pressure tho" 25:15 - step aside Trucy| 28:09 - "It's been a rough 7 years, Apollo" 32:46 - Valant said the thing! 34:00 - The world-turtle-magician myth| 35:33 - Where Valant has been this whole time 36:52 - Copyright law| 41:32 - He's back!! 42:03 - L O R D D A D D Y 45:02 - Lord Daddie's cookies 46:13 - Nezumi shares some facts about this games development! 49:25 - "Down here, Krabbs!" 52:30 - Apollo, the detention center pickup artist 57:02 - Prij always keeps that thing on him

[@itsbeelieve]

Deeply funny that Zak both voices Trucy’s adopted dad and has the same name as her bio dad. Fatherhood upon ye

[@kingdyste5289]

Phoenix may not be a lawyer anymore, but he ascended to the position of Lord Daddy, selector of jurists and bringer of farm-fresh pudding.

[@Someguyhere111]

Trucy: "You know I'm not very outgoing!" Apollo: "Trucy, my bracelet is CRUSHING my wrist right now."

[@SaveDataTeam]

😂

[@starstreamheartlocke652]

I personally headcanon the idea that Phoenix got the idea for a juror system by reading through Ryunosuke's old diaries.

[@floricel_112]

"wow, these people were BARELY any help, if at all. And a juror was MARRIED to one of the suspects?! Unbelievable.....but you know whom would it be hilarious to spring this on?

[@starstreamheartlocke652]

@@floricel_112 "And a juror was MARRIED to one of the suspects?!" I think you just explained Phoenix's inspiration for his juror choice in the final case...

[@llSuperSnivyll]

- Hey, we need to test this new trial system to make people more involved and more confident of our legal institutions. Who should be in charge of testing? - What about the lawyer that was disbarred for forging evidence? But I guess being Lord Daddy gave him noble influence.

[@floricel_112]

"you have no idea of the sway I have in this city. The heir to the Cadaverinis owes me a favor. The chief prosecutor is my -boyfriend- best friend! You don't know the things I am capable of!"

[@pattersong6637]

@@floricel_112 Between the Cadaverinis and the Kitakis, that's two crime families that owe massive debts to the Wright Anything Agency. Phoenix should just Roy Cohn it up and run a dedicated mob lawyer practice.

[@Ravensgale]

20:49 Phoenix: "It could be something complicated. Like a civil trial that eventually turns into a murder trial, but what are the odds of something that off the wall happening, right Apollo?"😁

[@LunaP1]

He called it a few years earlier than.😂

[@Ravensgale]

36:10 Valant: "Based?! Based on what, young man?"

[@CatComixzStudios]

"Hey Apollo. Surprise! I signed you up for a completely unfamiliar type of trial tomorrow without consulting you. Oh, and instead of using any of your time today to prepare, could you do me a solid and babysit my kid so she can mindlessly putz around an event venue several days before the thing she's gonna see? Okay thanks byeeeeeeee~" I feel bad for Apollo. This dude is the prototypical Straight-Man trope surrounded on all sides by clowns. Or, magicians, I suppose.

[@EricBeddington]

When ace attorney dads die, their sins will be judged by the LORD DADDY (it's been a while since i've played this game and i still can't believe that's an actual line)

[@EricBeddington]

(also, happy birthday zak!)

[@devotedcheetah1326]

I’m glad Nezumi is still here, I was worried she would be a 1 case guest lmao

[@floricel_112]

Valant is still involved in several cases, sooooo

[@OmegaReconGaming]

Prij in court. Judge: Do you have any closing statements defense? Prij: *Slams his hands on the desk. Reaches into his wallet pulls out a blue eyes white dragon card.” Judge: Can it be? The legendary blue eyes white dragon. Prij: Yes your honor. Judge: You should have brought out a dark magician girl. Penalty!

[@fierytigergaming8112]

26:01 You know it's personal when Nick has a serious expression for once

[@ShandorDavies]

Prij's "Tee Hee" gives me life

[@LilyK314]

The return of the banana referee shirt!

[@SaveDataTeam]

Had to break it out for the birthday!

[@whoneedstosleep]

I LOVE how this series treats law in the way we treat fashion or the entertainment industry. "Have you heard of the latest trend? Having a jury. So quaint." 😂 Also, Happy Belated Birthday, Zak!! 🎉

[@SaveDataTeam]

Thank you!

[@ToastyMozart]

If memory serves the system IRL Japan was testing out at the time was based on "Lay Judges," so in that sense "Jurist" might actually be more accurate than Juror.

[@TheGodIvy]

Since Phoenix is Lord Daddy, and Zak not only plays Phoenix, but is also the same age now... is Zak Lord Daddy?!?

[@SaveDataTeam]

Thank you, but please no 😂

[@cjnewman7550]

Well he is Trucy's Daddy

[@Kaempfdog]

4-4. A case full of great mysteries and themes. And a finale you will hear conflicting reports on for the rest of your LIFE. I am one of the positive ones. Surprise surprise. It’s my 8th favorite case in the franchise and just among the cases I play more than any other. For…reasons. One of my favorite easy to miss conversations in this case is with Phoenix in the anything agency. If you examine the bookshelf, he will imply he finally read Mia’s law books. And the ultimate irony after getting disbarred. It’s just one of those conversations that stick out to you like finding out Franziska delivered the card he got in 2-4 to Gumshoe, but it’s still in his pocket so she has to try and stop him from throwing out the coat. GREAT moment and they tuck it away. And this case is RICH with details. You do have to look for them and I don’t blame people when they miss them.

[@MariaMountain4831]

Happy late birthday, Zak. I hope it was a great day. Also, this is one of my favorite cases. I hope you like it. And Lord Daddy is a title that fits Phoenix perfectly. Way better than being a defense lawyer. I just love that line.

[@ethbeatthem4836]

By the end of this chapter Prij is going have an article on how the Mason System in this case would've never been made in this way, jury system is a think but this system have so many problems when it came to "who" worked on, "why" this got approved, and "how" the evidence gather in this is SUPER questionable in this case.

[@pattersong6637]

The only way the MASON System makes sense is if there's literal time travel. Apollo possesses Phoenix from 7 years ago and obtains items into his inventory to use in the present. It's literal time travel.

[@Lunathelunarian]

While I wouldn't say this case is one of my favorites, however I like the atmosphere of it. It felt eerie when I first played it and there's a soundtrack that will come up later during investigations that gives this melancholic and mysterious feeling. BUT one thing I absolutely love about this case is the culprit and their breakdown.

[@Lunathelunarian]

It's the drew studio soundtrack if anyone's wondering.

[@khaerinaenno]

18:00 I don't know if you would look it up later, but it's a pretty interesting thing. Japan had jury system in the beginning of 20th century, but jury trials were suspended during WW2, and never actually reinstated; all trials in Japan are bench trials, because the purpose of the court, essentially, is to determine the actual truth of the situation, not explicitly guilt or innocence. Still, in 2009, to improve court's reputation in the populace, the new system was introduced. It's not jury system, where the jurors are separate from judge and have separate function; it's more like members of community acting like junior judges of the court under the presiding of career or, as it's called, professional judges. It still works more like a bench trial, but with more judges now; some of them randomly chosen. As this people are very specifically _no jurors_, they're called "lay judges", and Japanese Ministry of Justice is very clear that this system is not to be considered jury. One of the funny quirks of the new system is, by the way, that, to prevent people to be in this far too long, trials were pretty much streamlined and expedited. Which is considered to be a problem.

[@TheMaleLynn]

46:44 One of the rare moments, where I am behind an instruction from the higher-ups. For me the AA-Series is defined by its characters, especially the main cast, and not its story or solved misteries. Making those characters synominous with the series itself. A Sequel to the AA-Trilogy needs those in it even if the creator itself sees their story as finished up and closed. And be it as small role side characters, who appear once briefly. Otherwise it will feel different and incomplete, that is my opinion. It is even worse to leave them out when you add in a timeskip, because then the fans REALLY want to see the old characters again!! To see how much and how they have changed! Q.q

[@Y-E-R-I]

true! to this day people want characters like gumshoe and franziska back on the franchise after the 7 year gap. which is totally reasonable, they are fan favorite characters that appear in almost every game

[@Y-E-R-I]

honestly can we keep nezumi? she's such a good addition to the crew, i love the voice she gave for valant and she's really funny!!

[@kenw.1520]

The Jurist System... yeah. I wish this game up again in the future AA games (the current timeline), even though it never happened. At the same time, the 5th game is my favorite... sooo... yeah. I feel like the Jurist System could be used for "appeal cases", so that the regular system isn't totally replaced. But if someone is found guilty and they want to appeal their verdict, then they use the Jurist System.

[@nerdwithfaith5230]

I finally caught up with this series and it is cool as a person who never interacted with Ace Attorney before. Also this has forever ruined my brain when it comes to voices I was reading a fanfiction and when Trucy showed up all I heard was Prij's voice for her.

[@SaveDataTeam]

That's awesome! Thank you so much!!

[@Limefragment]

5:55 Zak reminds me of the VA for colonel Campbell and I can't unsee that he looks like a combination between him and David Hayter

[@lattedecoffee6781]

Still so confused on how they put Phoenix in charge of this given the whole being disbarred thing, maybe Edgeworth did a nepotism for his bf?

[@LunaP1]

He did, actually. In Dual Destiny, Edgeworth meantioned that he did a lot to help get Phoenix back his job and license.

[@fierytigergaming8112]

@@LunaP1 Dude, spoilers! Joking aside, I suspected it was something like that given the fact that Nick's hat looked like it was one of Ema's inventions due to the button

[@sneepsnoop8639]

I binged the entire first trilogy of Ace Attorney with an Actual Lawyer about half a year ago and absolutely adored it. It is my go-to recommendation to friends wanting to get into Ace Attorney. Now that I've finally bought and played AJ:AA and caught up on your playlist, I can finally watch this series as it comes out. It has been an absolute delight thus far, and I'm looking forward to watching y'all complete the final case.

[@ShanRenxin]

Happy Belated Birthday Zak! Congrats Nezumi! It's a testament to the utter weirdness of the AA world that the Monty Python witch trial system feels like it fits right in. There's some real translation and writing... choices going on here. LORD DADDY?! My day is made! All translation mishaps are forgiven!

[@SientifikSiameez7799]

It’s been well over a year, but I’m STILL obsessed with Zak’s banana referee shirt. I need one soooooooo bad but I still haven’t found a place that sell any like it. Edit: Nezumi does a KILLER Plankton impression!

[@Stan_man]

This case is crazy, and probably one of he best ones.

[@voidmatic]

wAIT OHMYGOD PRIJ ALSO HAS A BLUE EYES IN HIS WALLET??? mine is in that little photo ID slot, been there for years lmao this is the best oml

[@lucyinchat]

Valant Laughs like Wario, has the same color scheme as Wario, and has the same motive as Wario. He is Wario-like

[@TheBlackDemon1996]

34:00 Stephen King lore be like...

[@ahsen5105]

26:00 I cried while laughing at this sprite ☠😭

[@blueglass24]

Happy (now belated) birthday, Zak! Thank you for the knowledge, Dr. Prij! I forgot just how absurd the opening to this case is. "Hey Apollo, you're doing a murder trial tomorrow, but don't worry I have everything all planned out," Phoenix says, more or less completely ignoring Trucy after giving her a "Recycle-your-plastics day" present. Ah, I just recalled one of the big twists in this case. Lord Daddy. That is all. As far as this case as a whole, watching this has brought back bits and pieces of how it goes, and I seem to remember feeling it was a pretty good final case.

[@vicwunder3062]

Lord Daddy.... Man, this case is one of my favorites in the entire series, even though there's one witness that makes me super uncomfortable lmao But the big breakdown in the end, and all the things just coming together is just SOOO good!

[@erinasnow]

It's always so sad when you reach the end after a long bingewatch because you caught up with times. Too bad timezones make watching live nearly impossible. Oh well, now a weekly episodes it will be.

[@DreadedGhoul575]

41:35 The edit and the teeth showing smile is perfect! xD

[@snowywhitequeen]

how intriguing! and very bizarre that phoenix would be allowed that position of responsibility after having been disbarred for forging evidence. i guess we don't have the whole picture yet? or it could really be that dumb. either would track tbh. also lord daddy is... wild but very funny

[@AtheAnt128]

this is my favorite ace attorney chapter in the whole series!!!

[@Jade_birb]

This was uploaded ON my birthday. EVERYONE got a birthday this year.

[@voidmatic]

so dang cool to see how far y'all have come - seeing you guys talk about capcom sending stuff idk just really makes me happy to hear. you guys really have created such a rad community and deserve the world :)

[@nelfie253]

O Lord Daddy which art in heaven, Profession and thy name, Let thy Edgeworth come, Thy trial done As well in court as in thy office, Give her this day her daily pudding, And forgive our autopsy updates Even as we forgive them which perjure against thee, Lead us not into mistrial But deliver us from guilty verdicts For thine are the foolish bluff and turnabout, And hamburgers for ever. Objection.

[@SaveDataTeam]

very good 😂

[@nelfie253]

Hallelujah!

[@Pokeminator]

9:55 seeing the background from the game and from the joke animation side by side: why did they crop the screen this way for the alpollo trilogy? You can't see the picture of Tracy's dad anymore😢

[@SaveDataTeam]

Ooooh, that's actually a really good catch! I'd be interested to see what the thought was behind that choice

[@Tearnalte]

There are Big Daddy cookies, so Lord Daddy wouldn't be very far off

[@ACleverName_]

one day Apollo will get a defendant who will actually discuss the crime with him. But that day is certainly not today

[@csayumi]

Apollo having his handful defendants not saying about the case as Edgeworth has his witness not saying their name and ocupation.

[@ErreTripleA]

Here is a Latin fan, sorry for my English in advance. It is very curious that the way to understand the evolution of the mechanics and ideas of the saga is in this order AA Apollo -> PL vs AA -> The Great AA and yet those of Save Data have done it in this order The Great AA -> AA Apollo -> PL vs AA That's why you sometimes wondered why there were some ideas in The Great AA and it was because you hadn't played the two games that were prequels to it (Apollo and Layton vs AA). It is very curious how in the main franchise, Takumi left several ideas in the air to be developed in future installments (like the juries) and they did not do so, in fact AA Dual Destinies and AA Spirit of Justice rewrite and ignore several things and do not They continue with the ideas that Takumi had left in this game It was not until he developed PL vs AA that he developed the multiple witness mechanic and this was divided into two in The Great AA resulting in a simpler multiple witness system because several of its functions were transferred to the jury system which was an idea that in the end it was developed into a spin-off because the main saga did not do so So basically it is very curious how this title is called Apollo Justice Trilogy, but really what continued the legacy of Apollo were The Great AA and at the same time this is a sequel to Pl vs AA

[@liamfitzgerald1400]

Happy late birthday, Zak! May all your data be saved ❤

[@SaveDataTeam]

Thank you!!

[@isakscherlund]

Of all the "slightly serious female character looking straight into camera" sprites Pearls has to be my favorite. It's so... Menacing.

[@csayumi]

Oops, I am late since I am seeing the vod, but Happy Birthday Zak! 🎉🎉🎉 Have a great year with much fulfillnes, happiness and health! That you continue doing great work as the greatest Lord Daddy!! 😂❤ Can't send something in the PO box (I live in another country), but sending a donation from here. (First time doing this, hope it works 😅)

[@SaveDataTeam]

Oh my gosh! Thank you so much! This is very generous! 💜

[@snazzy3743]

Tiiiiny spoilers Apparently, for the first half of the trilogy, Phoenix and Apollo don't really like each other much. It's never directly stated, but the way they speak to each other in this game and the last is much different

[@starstreamheartlocke652]

I would assume that's mostly from Apollo's side, considering Phoenix kind of just uses him like a tool.

[@OyBoy413]

Trucy's real father?!? When did i miss that revaluation that Phoenix isn't actually the father? Or was that just Apollo making an assumption? Wait Trucy lost her dad 7 years ago, Phoenix was disbarred 7 years ago fabricating evidence... Phoenix defended Zak Granery's murderer and faked evidence to get him got to help Trucy. Not sure how much that holds up but im sticking with it to see. Still when did they reveal previously, Phoenix to not be the father?!

[@itsbeelieve]

I think they revealed that in the past case in a conversation with valant!

[@ninjack11]

49:33 add it to the Spongebob reference compilation!

[@oatatas]

Harpar Bartdar

[@isuckatgaming1873]

I absolutely love this case, but it's a mess lol I'm looking forward to y'alls reactions to the wacky stuff Also, happy belated birthday!

[@Sjors_]

12:53 Your whole reason for coming here, _besides seeing your daughter,_ right Phoenix?

[@danceycat6446]

i have a feeling that whatever "lord daddy" was translated from makes more sense in the japanese version edit: after a brief search, i have learned i know nothing about archaic english

[@Mr.Colagaming]

I don't know about Lord Daddy but we had a Lore Daddy but he's retired now at least that's the Theory

[@JosephSciola]

So, fun fact, in Japan, around the time the game was in development, the last trial by jury was in 1943, and people were hesitant about the decision to revive the system. Essentially, the game - this case in particular - was pro-Jurist System propaganda.

[@noumenonification]

the joke about getting rid of laws made me laugh because there's a dude on youtube with the username DeleteLawz and he is batshit crazy.

[@certainlysomeonehere4975]

I dont know if it's implied here, but im thinking edgeworth probably had a hand in phoenix being part of organising the jurist system

[@pattersong6637]

I think you're probably right. Phoenix has friends in high places, including both Edgeworth and the Judge, and both of them are happy to help him get back on his feet.

[@alinaberbuesse13614]

happy birthday🎂

[@Macavity116]

42:00 This is the reason you clicked on this video.

[@magicalmarshmallow3368]

I think apollo might have actually been flirting with her? That exchange certainly looked like it

[@rubythursda7]

NEZUMI HYYYYPE WOOOOOO love yall sm

[@Glaive1771]

9:34 But that is correct grammar? When you use "too" at the end of a sentence like that, the comma is supposed to be there.

[@lnfreeman]

Am i missing something? The gramarye envelope appears as a magenta, textureless, rectangle to me. What is supposed to have an emblem on it?

[@SaveDataTeam]

There is a slightly darker shade of magenta with the gramarye logo on it. Do you have a form of color blindness?

[@rainylupin]

SPOILER Zak has got to be the first Let's Player I've seen who notices IMMEDIATELY that the lady in Troupe Gramarye is totally Lamiroir.

[@diesakuma367]

Am I the only one who dislike this case Very Vague spoilers Especially cause of THAT part with phoenix?

[@YOSHIERIDER]

It's weaker than any of the finales from the original trilogy. I don't hate this one, but I'm not a big fan either.

[@Lunathelunarian]

Which part?

[@diesakuma367]

@@Lunathelunarian that is a spoiler you will see Unless you finished sucession I wont tell you

[@diesakuma367]

@@YOSHIERIDER for me it is the worst final case for a lot of reasons but I will write those reasons after save data is done with AJ

[@Lunathelunarian]

@@diesakuma367 I did play it. You can add a spoiler warning.