Legendary Super Saiyan / Racial States - Dev log #25 [Dragon Block Apollo]

[@MrFactualSponge]

truly so committed to such a good game, i love it man

[@ApolloNetwork]

Thank you Mr. Bob I appreciate the support, it means a lot to us!

[@MajorDragon]

Interesting concept for the new forms and it makes them very unique as well keep up the good work!

[@ApolloNetwork]

Glad you like the concepts, we've already made some tweaks since this video even! Excited to see you around in the update :)

[@vexingvillain2758]

Not bad with the human, namekian, and Majin ones, def would’ve been hard to rly come up with stuff for that, I particularly like the Majin one, pretty cool visual effect

[@ApolloNetwork]

I'm glad you like those, it was surely a huge challenge to come up with many of these Designs, we're open to feedback if you have any input or creative direction at all!

[@AlexVONES]

@@ApolloNetwork namekian one is amazing, finally some love for the pickles

[@ApolloNetwork]

@@AlexVONES Glad you liked it! We have some tweaks we're gonna make from some community feedback!

[@theholybucketindustries]

comment for the algorythm

[@ApolloNetwork]

Appreciate it!

[@XeroZon]

I like Broly

[@Kusknight]

Ngl goated update

[@ApolloNetwork]

Thank you!

[@simoncibin4531]

that is soooo good brooo

[@ApolloNetwork]

Thank you! Glad you like it!

[@mikeskicks5171]

W update.

[@ApolloNetwork]

Glad you think so, we do our best!

[@everlastingnovice]

Bro just became chad

[@ApolloNetwork]

Chad form?

[@somesheesht]

I like pink goku that says "am gonna pink goku you!"

[@ApolloNetwork]

goku used goku attack

[@somesheesht]

@@ApolloNetwork Where's my Pink Goku with his husbando? (Trasformation & Zamasu funny npc)

[@ApolloNetwork]

@@somesheesht Eventually once we get to Super Future Saga :)

[@somesheesht]

Cool, there's bread 🍞 @@ApolloNetwork🤌

[@balrogdemorgoth4741]

Interesting

[@sangeburt3174]

mwah

[@ApolloNetwork]

😀

[@francescorizzo7908]

the "false ssj" that u think is different the broly one is called ikari(rage)

[@ApolloNetwork]

Well, that's only in the "Super Broly" case, we're currently adapting the DBZ Movie. But we've been told it's Type-C Since anyway it'll be renamed!

[@osuper1000]

think for humans its better if the metal part goes to both legs and arms then just one arm.

[@ApolloNetwork]

Yep! We've made some changes to it since this video already! It's both arms as well as going onto the face now!

[@GKGames2018]

it would be cool if the grind for mastery was less painful

[@ApolloNetwork]

We've made some changes to the grind for mastery already! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJLWdaimn6uCiaM

[@aussiegamer8717]

i'm curious about how surge will work with ki builds, you showed it building off melee but i wonder how it goes with ki builds, using waves, blasts, laser etc. Cool though like the idea.

[@ApolloNetwork]

it still builds off ki damage so ki builds can still gain the benefit of surge, we showed off melee as its the current most popular build players use. We'll work hard to make sure it balances in a fair way!

[@danvito5150]

Nah I'd green and majin' 😎

[@ApolloNetwork]

Literally

[@UHGuac]

if you don't come out with a massive update for players to have more interactions with the community as a whole and a revamp on the "login, do dailys, repeat" then this is going to die was soon as DBV goes public no matter how cool and functional these updates are (with love) xoxo

[@bufftiose6930]

As someone who loves both dba and dbv, dbv isn't coming out in the near future, and while Apollo has its faults, it's got a lot of love

[@ApolloNetwork]

There's no benefit to comparing two projects in such a way, we're both doing the best we can to provide the best experience. Both can co-exist, without the fear of one "dying". We're in the same space, yes, but from what I've seen we are aiming for pretty different experiences! We're happy to see other DBZ Minecraft projects period - the space needs more growth - and different types of mods accomplish that. The goal is to attract people into the space, and hopefully have them try out everything the space has to offer.

[@Cowman3201]

Cant wait for the update 6 months from now (they finna delay again lmao)

[@ApolloNetwork]

We announced the release date in the Update Trailer, we're aiming for September 20th

[@Cowman3201]

@@ApolloNetwork i saw i was just trolling. the racial forms look alright. legendary human and majin look good. But i think the namekian could use a rework. the scales just look like a weird space sickness ngl

[@monkeman1501]

Will majins ever get their special charge up? Like when buu gets angry and steam shoots out from those holes in his body. I was thinking it could be a special transformation animation

[@ApolloNetwork]

Would love to it and some point, just been very occupied with everything this update. Defiantly a great idea!

[@lightshadow157]

the what u called "falss ssj" is a difrend form from a difrent movie(is like a super saiyan but not as strong and dont have the blond hair ) the blue hair is calls super "saiyan type c"

[@XeroZon]

Thanks for clarifying, forgot the name in the Moment i'll be sure to update the name anywhere we had it!

[@lightshadow157]

ok thanks

[@ooselthewisevods2742]

me encanta broly

[@ApolloNetwork]

BROLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@darklordstarscream]

bit disappointed about half saiyans not getting anything cool, couldve gave them future ssj. i think saiyans racial state could be improved as well, ssj a type (what you called false ssj) looks too cyan and i wish it had the regular ssj aura like its suppose to. Also having one normal size lssj and one buff is a bit boring, one of my favorite forms broly has and that i hope you consider replacing one of the lssjs with is super saiyan c type which is brolys more powerful version of regular ssj, its less yellow and more light green

[@ApolloNetwork]

The intention with the cyan haired one was to be Brolys Type C Form, i'll see what improvements we can make towards Saiyan Racial State Tier 2 & 3 as well! As for Half-Saiyans getting their own Racial State, it's mostly a fact that every existing form on Apollo has avoided such differences, Half-Saiyans are for all effective purposes just another slightly different Saiyan, mostly in regards to scaling. Also I feel as if some folks would be angry if Half-Saiyan didn't get LSSJ in some regards, since many of our players choose half-saiyan simply for it's scaling or colored hair.

[@montsu5628]

Once you unlock the recial states will you be able to use god/primal forms and if yes will they have a different look just for the aesthetic?

[@ApolloNetwork]

You are not able to use Racial States beyond Tier 3 Forms. Maybe in the future!

[@kastu1811]

Im guessing that god and primal are still going to be better right? Or will they be comparable?

[@ApolloNetwork]

Yep they'll still be the top! These are not intended to be "high end" forms!

[@Pink_Noodle]

@@ApolloNetwork More variety in gameplay is always good, keeps things interesting

[@ApolloNetwork]

@@Pink_Noodle We completely agree, it's important to improve upon the entire game including the early game as often as possible!

[@gottagofast761]

i was disponted with human i was hoping for something like the triclops tein with 4 arms technic

[@ApolloNetwork]

Sorry to hear you're disappointed with Human Racial State. It was a big challenge trying to come up with the best step forward for these Racial States, we're considering some improvements to them but will be sticking with our core design here. I appreciate all the feedback though!

[@gottagofast761]

@@ApolloNetwork it would be better if it had more than than one arm and some of the chest it just feels rushed sorry still glad humans got something ppl usually just skip it ty for that

[@ApolloNetwork]

@@gottagofast761 We have some changes in mind that we'll see about getting done before the Update Launches! Keep an eye out in our Discord for updates on that, likely in the #Teasers channel!

[@ApolloNetwork]

Also yeah, no problem AT ALL giving forms to other races is a huge deal to us, we're sorry it didn't stack up with the others, we'll see what we can do in regards to that!

[@box_juice1107]

When the server coming back on was there any delays? not rushing

[@ApolloNetwork]

Mostly just taking our sweet time to test and resolve as many issues before the public gets a chance to have issues!

[@yourregularguy4564]

i like this update why do the racial forms look tough guess i have to max out all races :|

[@ApolloNetwork]

Glad you like the Update and the new Racial States, thanks for your support!

[@LandUpGaming]

Will ki affect the surge bar? Or will this transformation be kinda useless for ki builds?

[@ApolloNetwork]

it still builds off ki damage so ki builds can still gain the benefit of surge, we showed off melee as its the current most popular build players use. We'll work hard to make sure it balances in a fair way!

[@retro9069]

so for lssj i just need to use the base form of it and get small exp? cause ive been trying for months to get it.

[@kh2roxasxiii711]

did you figure it out coz im been trying for ages

[@kleefirestar]

Is racial state or god form better?

[@ApolloNetwork]

God Form Is still the natural next step after Tier 3, even with Racial States on Tier 3 Forms.

[@budget370]

i lost gallons to xerozon

[@ApolloNetwork]

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[@Annime_playz]

Will it work with God forms?

[@ApolloNetwork]

Nope! Racial States for now will only Stack upon Base, Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 Forms! In the future we may go further with the Stacking, only time will tell!

[@Annime_playz]

@@ApolloNetwork ahh okay ty ty

[@ApolloNetwork]

@@Annime_playz No Problem

[@Matt-tb3eq]

the majin is the only acceptable design outside of saiyan (you can't fuck up lssj ffs) that's sad

[@ApolloNetwork]

Could you elaborate on what you don't like about the other designs, we'd love to hear feedback so we can improve them!

[@Matt-tb3eq]

@@ApolloNetwork the namekian literally looks like it got beaten to death in certain places, the final level of arcosian is literally fucking metal form, and the human is just a bionic arm, no transformation or legendary thing about it. LSSJ is the canon form so you can't screw it up for the saiyans, and the majin's color scheme and aura actually look well and go with eachother.

[@ApolloNetwork]

​@@Matt-tb3eq The idea behind Racial States was not to be Legendary for every Race, we believe this is creatively bankrupt and we opted for a more unique perspective on these Races Lineage via Racial States, things you've seen on these Races in one way or another throughout the Series. Namekian's coloring is based on the user's color palette. It is not hard-coded coloring, so not everyone will have red scaling around the body. Metal is the arcosian racial state, it has just been updated to the new resolution and granted coloration based on base character creation coloring. As for human, we are open to ideas you have aside from our stance of biomechanical engineering being human's racial advantage as shown with Androids and other Red-ribbon/Capsule corp originating sources. We appreciate the feedback and will be taking it into consideration.