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I told you. Again.
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[@ApexGale]

i don't know what to apologize for but I'm going to refuse on principal, just the way you taught me sajam

[@Living_Target]

If Sajam is so good why isn't there a Sajam 2? Wait...

[@MrShinTensei]

I hit diamond with every character including random with modern. Best thing to happen to street fighter in a long ass time. So much fun.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Not only to SF but to the whole fg genre. Also there is the fact that SF is the most influential franchise in this genre, so the companies are surely paying close attention to everything that Capcom has done in SF6, that is different from SF5, that must have helped to take the game to such popularity heights... and are considering what can be replicated in their own game. So SF6's breakthrough will also help the rest of the genre in the next years. It created new perspectives for the genre. Another interesting implication to think about is that this breakthrough might convince Capcom to allow reviving another fg franchise as long as it's "SF6-coded"? So it becomes a project with higher chances of success with the general public and with player retention. Maybe a "MvC-like" game? Even if the Marvel franchise itself has to be replaced by another one.

[@faaltov]

Diamond 🤣🤣🤣

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@faaltovguaranteed you're under 1500 mr saying this shit, cause diamond with everyone is 1. impressive and 2. maybe they didn't want to keep playing dhalsim or manon

[@MrShinTensei]

@@ΚρανίΩ he wants attention. He came to my channel to start stuff. He has no videos posted of his gameplay so it's funny that he wants to talk shit about mine.

[@faaltov]

@bigjc5546 hell no it isn't

[@BloodyEvening]

Bro, my most played game right now is GBVSR for a similar reason. Simple inputs means I get to focus on decisions instead of execution, and it's done wonders for my carpal tunnel. Cheers

[@trishula-8037]

>sf6 adding jukebox my guy does it again! fixing streetfighter, one vid at a time

[@ΚρανίΩ]

Bullying works💯💯💯🗣️🗣️

[@allothecheekclapper]

​@@ΚρανίΩso true

[@arpadszabo661]

@@Aphextal93 yeah it sucks. But at least the Akuma event in the battlehub gives you thousands of tickets so you can buy your favorite pack. Obviously it should’ve been free like in Tekken.

[@Millicente]

I'll add my unimportant self to the pool. I always wanted to get into fighting games but the barrier to entry required more time than I was willing to put in. I couldn't even get a hadouken to come out every time I wanted, so forget about learning combos. My first attempts at fighting games were always just me jabbing twice or sweeping once, stuff like that. For everyone who says "well you're just a casual and you didn't want to put in the time," yeah, I am a casual. I wasn't trying to make fighting games my main hobby let alone my main genre of game and I had no interest in participating in tournaments. For me I want to jump in a game and be able to do what drew me to the game to begin with: combos and flashy things. I didn't find tutorial modes fun, I didn't find combo trials fun, I didn't find ranked matches where I either got perfected or both of us were exchanging 2 hit combos fun. SF6 and modern controls made me play the most and longest I've ever played any fighting game. I could deal relevant dmg while still choosing my moves, and naturally learn spacing, meter management, etc. Once I got basic knowledge I even experimented with classic controls since I've become comfortable with more things. All that would never have happened if modern controls didn't let me enjoy playing the game while learning it. Also world tour mode really really helped. I sunk a ton of time into that since those types of single player modes are something I love. SF6 really made me enjoy playing it and I hope SF7 and onwards continue the formula.

[@hann8103]

Can't wait for Jiyuna to get coached by Karubi next year. Make it Happen!

[@cynical_perks8725]

When you start telling people how to play, you start sounding like a Smash player, and who wants to sound like that?

[@Jonfgc]

What have I done

[@CoVa923]

NAH THIS IS FACTS LMAO

[@kaigai-nikimajikoi325]

Jiyuna you gonna give us that Modern Akuma guide? lmao

[@carlosaugusto9821]

By the end of the year

[@samflynnmadsally]

'Stop doing splits on it' made me guffaw so hard I lost about three minutes of this video and I have no regrets.

[@R4V3NU5]

As a returning SF4 player it took me 5 months to hit master with classic ryu in 6. I'd rather be called a youtube hater than a modern player.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

And I’d rather play the style that fits me best and win

[@R4V3NU5]

You are using cheatbox and modern, are you old or something? 😆

[@broguardians5952]

Jiyuna a true one with perspective. Days, weeks, months before we see his point of view. Dude is so chill about it and funny

[@curbyourenthusiazm]

I started as a Jamie main on Modern and have had a blast. I just opened a new account, switched to Classic, and I’m looking forward to a new drunken journey

[@paulmertens5522]

Capcom managed to make a SF game with a n00b-friendly control scheme that’s viable for a lot of ranks but not OP. As a result more people are playing the game. If something is broken, make sure the devs know. If it isn’t broken, I don’t care about you preferring one or the other. Just play the game, have fun, respect each other, and be grateful SF6 is fun and new players are picking it up.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yesss

[@NihongoWakannai]

I like modern, I use modern, I still don't think companies should be trying to make simplified controls "tournament viable" the goal should be to just make the noob experience more fun and then transition them into using classic controls. Top level FG gameplay was already good the way it was, all that needs fixing is the new player experience. Modern seems to be a pretty good compromise, I hope companies keep improving the noob experience without oversimplifying competitive play.

[@chinesemassproduction]

Towa is my favorite. I watch her practice and she really puts all her focus in, to the point where she isn’t talking to her audience sometimes. Thats dedication.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

LOCKED IN

[@MatronMugrai]

The people complaining about modern are the same people trying to justify pro player tier lists at lower ranks... It doesn't matter

[@KhMaIBQ]

This CR Cup was fun. My brother and I were watching Towa-sama. Sadly, her team got last place. I hope they all stick with it and keep improving. SHAKA just ran their own event for SF6 called LEGENDUS. They've been in every CR Cup. It's really cool to see the participants doing things for the game.

[@reverieofmusic436]

I know you're right, but at my scrub level, Modern is still cheap, and I hate it. And they messed up Jukebox mode by putting it behind a paywall! God damn.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

The EX Troopers songs are free and good

[@reverieofmusic436]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI That is true, it's a massive step up from the OST. I replaced every song immediately, except for Zangief's, because it sounds funny =D

[@DragonthornX]

The only people complaining about modern were the scrubs. They felt it was “broken” because of auto combos and one hit specials/supers. But as we’ve seen, Classic is still the way to go at the highest levels. Modern did exactly what it was designed to do, raise the skill floor at the expense of the ceiling.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yes but those scrubs in the West are loud enough to make other scrubs feel bad for trying Modern

[@KendrickBautista-i8u]

The savior of tekken... 💀💀

[@Ramsey276one]

Modern doesn't turn SF6 into AFK Heroes CHILL And keep practicing before the Hadoken Doggo Double Perfects you!

[@DouglasBurton]

Love it, I've been a fan of Modern since day 1, heck since before day 1, since day -100.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

Daman, I didn't know about the coaches being former students from previous events. That's straight up heart-warming. I don't know if Modern was the biggest factor, but it's here, and it's probably the best implementation of "training wheels" in fighting games we've seen. Specially in Granblue Versus, but the Street Fighter one works fine for most characters.

[@GBFGO-PLAYER]

modern gang gang rise up 🙌

[@Sensei5am]

Might be off topic but I don't watch a lot of Tekken but the sajam slam really got me into it and that format was hype.

[@Sparda51]

People seem to not realize how damaging and prejudice it is to consistently hate on modern. You want people to join the game, putting a stigma on it will just push people away. Embrace the people that want to use modern. Let’s all level up together! Anyways good job sajam on the sajam slam. I can’t wait to see when you bring street fighter to the next sajam slam, it’s gonna be hype :D.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yupppp

[@Dyleniz]

Holy seeing Towa sama playing on a Jiyuna video was not on my 2024 checklist Edit : Classic controls is not that hard what modern just does it makes it even simpler only thing I hate with modern is when I throw a fireball and get instant lvl3 in gold :

[@jpVari]

I told everyone I know how popular it is. They didn't care!

[@TXBrutality]

Modern does less damage also, no one talks about that. They're just mad they got beat by someone who went in at a disadvantage.

[@arock9362]

Jiyuna, I kneel.

[@amfrog8277]

I was never a modern hater. I just don't use it. I ain't apologizing for a damn thing. Play what you want, you can still get these hands.

[@dawsan2691]

Modern players are scientifically proven to be more attractive, intelligent, and skilled. There has been numerous studies on this. Please do your research.

[@108Fire]

Jiyuna always chasing the numbers, modern man indeed

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

There have been sooooo many positive changes thanks to the success of these events, it’s not just “numbers”

[@jimsface]

don’t tell me what to do.

[@BETTERTHANYOULOLZ]

Jiyuna can we please get an izanami guide for bbcf aka the best game ever made?

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

The world needs less Izanami, not more.

[@lidounai]

The gawk gawk 3000 at it again.

[@izzadk86]

why stop at sf6, anime fighting games have been adding "modern" option for a long time already, it's just they call it by a different name like stylish mode or other stuff. we should spread this to more games like Guilty Gear, Blazblue, Under Night etc etc

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

GBVSR got it right

[@alchemystn2o]

"M" is the way! Sajam2 has seen the future a year ago. 😆

[@carlosaugusto9821]

And most importantly Sajam had to resort to TK because he didnt find sufficient willingness to execute the concept in the SF community. Now look what he's done (twice so far), that the SF community missed out only for being narrow minded.

[@itsshauta]

I will keep being mid, keep playing classic controls, and keep making fun of my friends for using modern!

[@kei0807-1]

Yep, I've been watching CR Cup since I watch vtubers and darusaka and they cover all kinds of video games I play. Sf6, valo, lol, apex. I play classic Cammy but I don't mind players using modern controls, we just have to get good. Tachikawa simping over Karubi during the course of CR Cup was funny. Towa pulling off drive rush loops into SA3 during scrim was cool. Ririmu messing up combos and drive rush because her controller was actually broken but did her combos during the real thing. Himawari was really good at Marissa or fundamentals in general since she plays tekken. Noah's fast reaction cammy hitting SA3 out of of nowhere. Kazunoko entering crazy raccoon announcement and popping off during the tournament. Dogura's zangief un~ during grabs against Hinano. There's more moments from other like Sumi, Toto, Hendy, Akarin, Mitii and other streamers but it would be too long to cover. Yep, watching CR cup is totally worth it.

[@YMan-zo5kg]

Buff modern

[@Picheal43]

Please 😂

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Now we’re talking

[@Teol33]

Definitely need to apologize for modern

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Bow down to us Modern GODS

[@ministerquik]

Jiyuna the man the myth the legend

[@absolutesadlad2297]

people complaining about modern is so dumb. nobody is forced to use it. as long as it's encouraging new players & bringing new eyes that's what matters.

[@booh7707]

I got so much better in all fighting games because of modern

[@corruptingluxray5227]

im sorry

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

It’s ok

[@fraserodonnell7618]

why even delete Modern?

[@14zrobot]

sorry

[@Chato13]

MODERN UP

[@wanew9522]

Sajam saving the FGC again, inspiring the grassroots streamers, love to see it.

[@easyduster]

Vtubers are saving the fgc

[@Kosher3864]

The idea that "modern controls made this happen" is the logical fallacy of correlation inplying causation. What happened is the people who trained those first generation of players told them "just play with modern it's easier" so that's all they played. If modern wasn't an option, they would just play without modern. Regardless of your opinion on modern this is a stupid argument.

[@Cezkarma]

I'm assuming you've just never watched any of the Japanese creators' streams while they were learning, because most of them chose Modern on their own volition and not because it was recommended. Funny that you call Jiyuna's argument stupid, yet you're the one relying on assumptions for your "evidence".

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

You know nothing about the players or discussions happening here.

[@Kosher3864]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI You're right I don't live in Japan or talk to the players, but unless literally every single streamer who wanted to try to play the game for a fun stream event said "I refuse to play a fighting game unless it has a modern controls equivalent," then this is just a post hoc ergo proctor hoc fallacy. Maybe my assumption was wrong, maybe they chose it themselves, but in the end new players choose modern because it's easier to improve with on a short timespan, and not choosing it would put you at a disadvantage playing against another new player using modern. If no one could use modern there wouldn't be that inherent advantage. I like Modern controls, I'm not arguing against it, I'm saying that claiming all of them are playing the game because modern exists is a fallacy.

[@Kosher3864]

​@@Cezkarma Yeah I shouldn't have called it stupid, it was just a logical fallacy. I posted a response to his comment already, and you're right I didn't watch the Japanese players, but whether they chose it or were suggested to play modern, the reason is the same (once again, I'm assuming): Modern has a lower barrier of entry than classic, you can get better faster, and if you play classic you'll be playing against a bunch of people who have an easier time kicking your ass if you've never played so it just makes sense to play modern. The only info I have about the streamers is this video, I don't speak Japanese, they could have all said I refuse to enter this tournament if modern wasn't in the game, but at the same time I find it incredibly hard to believe that 100% of them did. I'm not making a comment about modern, I like modern as an option for beginners and am 100% for it, just saying the argument was flawed.

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

this is the result of SF6 having the biggest organization push ever, the biggest marketing ever with the million dollar tourney, the most content and best online on release ever etc more best ever features. modern has little to nothing to do with it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if easy controls actually did anything for a game DNF wouldn't be dead. or at least not as dead.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

COPE

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI same to you.

[@nicebird1082]

Gawk gawk

[@JohanMGO]

"I was called the gawk gawk God, do split on it." Took me the fuck out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@Limit5482]

Why does this guy keep taking about himself in third person?? Like we know your name is Sajam bro

[@deadpooldope]

The FGC god brought jukebox mode appreciate it

[@lucianoaguero6795]

Jiyuna saving the FGC again, inspiring the grassroots streamers, love to see it.

[@Raidanzoup]

Dogura just had a roundtable stream with streamers who picked up SF6 to ask them how things are a year into the game, and some of the ones who never touched SFV wouldn't have tried SF6 if Modern wasn't an option. And they play Classic now. Anyway, peep Dogura's other video from the end of CR Cup where Mittii asks who the sexiest fighting game woman is (and the sequel video where Dogura and Kazunoko completely fail to find a fighting game man that suits Hinaano's taste in fictional characters)

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yep, very common sentiment.

[@dorugora3912]

people should really start hearing out this jiyuna guy

[@DirtyOldmanOG]

When we gonna get a Jiyuna was right counter?

[@KoopaKoot]

Sajam: flirting Jiyuna: harassment

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

lmao

[@17thknight]

You act like being the #1 Gawk Gawk God isn't a compliment 🤷‍♀️

[@LemmingMartyr]

I will never give up the modern mode hate because my momma didn't raise a quitter

[@MrShinTensei]

Cool story bro

[@Fpsdood]

stuck gold 3

[@TheZiggaZow]

You can hate something and still easily beat it. Take kendrick vs drake for example ​@Fpsdood

[@MrShinTensei]

@@TheZiggaZow not modern akuma lol

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Happy to see what modern is doing for SF6 People were def overreacting saying it would ruin the game lol

[@boody7084]

I'm a simple man. Jiyuna makes a video about Modern and dogs on Classic boomers, I upvote, like, and subscribe. So should you.

[@Sp3llmen]

On the talk of modern, I myself still play modern and have a ton of fun. I don't understand how people are still saying modern "ruins" the game. Modern does little at high levels of play. So the only people complaining about modern at this point are the people who have maybe played 10 hours and dropped the game after saying "I'll learn the game on classic because I dont want to be a pussy" then gave up after losing a game against a modern player spamming the same special 10 times in a row.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Everyone needs something to blame

[@KendrickBautista-i8u]

I think modern is much MUCH stronger than people realize. Unfortunately there's a stigma if u use it competitively.

[@KendrickBautista-i8u]

Haitani showed us a taste of the power of modern but there's untapped potential at least I think.

[@krodmandoon3479]

Bea in GBFVS idgaf about anything else

[@frothyground7075]

It's crazy I watched this entire video and all I heard was" GAWK GAWK!"

[@cuecrunch]

nah make every special move motion a pentagram

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Summon Suffering

[@smhity]

Bro really hit us with the SFV-patented "Haters will be left behind" 😭

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

That was MVCI I thought?

[@Matt-qs5rx]

All joking aside, Modern controls and Japan's collabs and efforts really helped get new players, streamers and casual gamers into the game in a great way. And as a Classic purist, I'm here for it. Here's to hoping it gets momentum here across the big drip.

[@0GTXR]

Just need to not forget to add some sort of incentive to switch to Classic, or else it will be taken away from you in the future just like Gulty Gear's aerial movement was taken away. The laggy air dashes are just not the same man.

[@tabkg5802]

Why would I apologize if I'm always objectively correct on everything?

[@StepbackXYC]

Shout out to the Modern warriors. Laugh at the haters. Base reaction should at worst be indifference.

[@kayanims]

Honestly, the negativity towards mordern is a serious problem. Capcom gave classic players the world! Yet they keep on complaining. Street Fighter would be easier if everyone played modern, and we can focus on reactions and damaging custom combos like in DBFZ.

[@OmnipotentO]

Nurturing casual interest with Modern + Japanese and sajam events has been hugely positive. Ya love to see it!!

[@Nyagro]

Nah, if it was Modern carrying the game, Blazblue would've been smashing every Battlefield in sales since 2009.

[@JonNewgate]

True

[@masterdante54]

This is so true, BB had simple control options since CT iirc

[@Ryuuk00]

​Foreal? I didn't know or I'd have picked up Blazblue. I picked up Sf6 specifically because of modern controls. Same with Tekken 8 though I don't use them in 8. To me it's seeing a boom in player base, not necessarily carried, by modern control users. Or people sticking with it. And why not other games? Marketing. Blazblue has never marketed simple controls and thus cannot widen their player base.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

So it's the SF6's deep gameplay consistency? Or what else? Because the fact is that these viewership stats, combined with the known great sales performance and solid playerbase, already make it the most successful product in fg history. Just two years ago, as were still near the end of SF5's cycle, these viewership numbers and overall cultural impact, were completely unthinkable.

[@delor42]

One game is a niche game in a niche community and the other one is, you know, the great grandfather of fighting games. Also I think the naming of the controls was a big factor. It's called stylish mode and the other is called "technical mode". Name differences like those can dissuade people from choosing it. Same for MvC3 with "Simple" controls. It just feel more demeaning than "Modern"

[@mkosler]

thats my gawk gawk goat

[@mendyexile2507]

Modern is actually pretty balanced. If you lose to modern spammers in low ranked it’s on you. I think it’s a skill issue.

[@DigitalKingyo]

アメリカ版のCR CUPみたいなチームトーナメントも見たいねえ。 決して上手くはないストリーマーが本気で練習して試合するのはプロの試合とはまた違うドラマがあるんよね。 そしてそれにはモダンモードは不可欠。 簡単にコンボやCAが打てるモダンがあるからこそ初心者の試合でも演出的に地味にならず見ている方も楽しめる。

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Sajam Slam

[@ZeroillusionX]

Modern players should apologize to me, even other players like bigbird and angrybird agree, modern is just too good, it needs a nerf, and I don't say modern is busted, but the reward given to modern controllers is insane, not because its easy, but because how street fighter works mechanically, the damage nerf is not enough, characters like luke work equally good on modern and classic, but modern is just easier, and is not that modern is better, in luke's case is a sidegrade, my 2 main issues with modern is that modern requires is either equal or better than classic for specific characters, second issue is that you are forced to pick, I wouldnt care if modern players have the same results if we could both play both things, classic and modern, look at granblue, granblue has something that is strictly better than modern in every conceivable way, but it's balance by the fact that everyone has access to both styles at the same time, and it makes the game fun and accesible to everyone, modern imo is just too strong, and easy controllers should never be as strong as regular controllers, making something accesible is great for new players, but it should never give the same amount of rewards, it just isnt fair at all.

[@ObeyaCorpsArmory]

modern sucks

[@ponderingForever]

Pros Teaching Newcomers is amazing for the FGC

[@M1d32]

I remember EO controls in Capcom vs SNK 2 for the GameCube, the original modern controls.

[@GELTONZ]

I'll apologize to Modern when everyone else apologizes to Phantom Breaker which basically started the Modern trend and did it waaay better but got snubbed as "not a real fighting game" because of it.

[@Tribow]

we got a real one over here

[@markerlight391]

Back in Tekken 3 on PS1 i could assign throw combinations to rear buttons. Been advocating for modern controls for 20 years now. Hating on them? Not in my house

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Love me some macros. I used Guilty Gear RC macro on my PS pad.

[@Zenocide]

Whatever event America put on for SFVI that one time, I didn't get to catch it but I also didn't end up watching the VOD. Mainly because it didn't seem the same. I think people might take it more seriously if you brought in some bigger name EN VTubers (no offense to those who were invited, but I had no idea who they were), it would have caught on.

[@tonynguyen6639]

I instantly thought of you when I saw the tweet. And thought damn a certain pro player has the worst takes ever and if people stop following his takes like bots, the society would be waaayyy better.

[@AnthonyLeal-b6y]

Why is sajam talking about himself in the 3rd person?

[@Belbaisy]

Yes , plz keep supporting Modern 🎮 You said it almost before a year , Modern is the future.

[@limb-o7180]

still hoping they add modern inputs for strive in S4 (just give it a bit of damage nerf) so I can play more with my non-fgc friends

[@jaogetsu6066]

I don't think Modern controls was ever a problem, we had something like this in Blazblue and Xrd, I think the keypoint here is how they didn't shy away in keeping classic controls relevant for the game, so there is a proper balance in skill floor maintained that people who started modern can seek out to jump to Classic, and people who are veteran can still enjoy the way it was, of course, Modern being a well made version of "Stylish" modes that ASW did back in the day helps a lot. Despite Granblue doing every possible decision to simplify everything in the game it doesn't have the same effect.

[@fugutabetai]

Thank you for saving modern controls. As we all know, Japan has long had a history of juxtaposition of the traditional and the modern. As Mario Perniola writes in the Cambridge University press published "The Japanese juxtaposition", we can look at the peculiar aspects of the Japanese process of modernization, which has its roots in a historical experience in which the notions of hybridity and crossing were unsuitable. In fact, what we see in Japan is not the encounter and mixture of different and heterogeneous aspects, although there is hardly anything original or pure in it. There is a sort of Japanese uniqueness, that cannot be found in a specific content, but in a general attitude that consists of a sort of deconstruction of any type of content. This process enables one thing to be put next to another without leading to conflict, even if originally the two may have been antithetical. Therefore, juxtaposition is the notion that best explains the type of procedure employed by the Japanese when they deal with something that does not come from their culture.

[@brayenmorrison3199]

First. 1:10 Jiyuna exposed? Nah...

[@umutalicoskun1096]

It's literally only a problem because exprienced players are abusing it when it's clearly made for beginners. They should just turn raw supers into motions, most new players are probably already doing supers from auto combos anyways

[@morecoffeedude]

As a professional hater. I’ll never apologize to modern controls LOL Jk. Glad we’re getting new blood in the game. More people for me to body on ranked :)

[@PAPALIKO]

Do they have English stream for this event and if not then you should definitely ask if they would allow you Junior.

[@quelldieu7263]

im only apolgizing for not seeing u win BB tourney live 2024 oh wait, it hasnt happened yet XD

[@dnn86]

Modern serves its purpose of easing in new players very well, it has definitely been a net positive inclusion. It does need some tweaks though. Doing specials and supers with the proper command should not negate the damage penalty, for example. There needs to be a clear incentive for players to move on to Classic. If Modern becomes the new standard that will suck.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

There already is incentive to move on if you want to maximize your character’s potential.

[@Picheal43]

That's a bad take imo. It shouldn't just be a gateway into classic, it should be its own standalone control scheme. Everyone should be able to play whichever control scheme they want without one being stronger than the other.

[@vincentcircharo8259]

that doesnt make sense. the damage penalty is there precisely because of the ease of input. if they arent using the easy input, they shouldnt get the nerfed damage.

[@dnn86]

@@vincentcircharo8259 Then Modern shouldn't give the option to do moves with the proper command in the first place. It should be easy inputs only. It does so because it's a great way of helping people transition to Classic. Therefore, the damage 'bonus' should be exclusive to Classic, otherwise where is the incentive to switch? It doesn't make sense to give Modern the best of both worlds.

[@vincentcircharo8259]

@@dnn86 like jiyuna already said, there is absolutely already incentive to switch. every character has certain moves that they literally cannot perform on modern controls, some losing more than others. for example, cammy cannot use crouching medium punch, its just not something she has access to with the control scheme, and its a pretty good tool for her. if you want to be able to play your character at its fullest potential, you have to play on classic, and therein lies the incentive to switch.