Hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to look back at Anglo-French foreign policy in the 1930s and be shocked at how many mistakes politicians like Neville Chamberlain could make. This video will probably only add to that judgement, it more or less charts all the times Hitler could have been stopped but wasn't. But put yourself in the context of the time. Memories of the Great War are only twenty years ago old, and the public has no appetite for another massive conflict. The global economy is only just showing signs of recovery after the Great Depression, and Britain and France barely have the industrial capacity to fight a modern war. So, imagine you’re Chamberlain (or any other politician of the time), are you really going to commit your country to war over a territorial disagreement between Germany and Czechoslovakia? The invasion of Poland in September 1939 shows that appeasement was a mistake. But maybe it was an understandable one? Let us know what you think in the comments. Cheers, Francis. *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban.
@Paciat4 жыл бұрын
With hindsight appeasement politics were that absurd, Monty Python made a gag about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp7anqiGicZjitE
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38194 жыл бұрын
TimeGhost History mistakes like the building up of the RAF and Army? Neither of which were ready for war in 1938.
@nirfz4 жыл бұрын
Just a quick Question: would it be a spoiler for Part 2 if i mentioned Mexico's letter to the league of Nations in 1938?
@elwin384 жыл бұрын
Cheers from Memphis. By the way, i can imitate the sound at the end of these videos😁✌🏾👊🏾
@Robban.D.Jonsson.4 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, are there any rough ideas of which way the cancelled referendum would have gone?
@theDoctorwitTardis4 жыл бұрын
A fun fact from a native czech - in my country we call the Munich agreement: *About us, without us*
@stepanpytlik40214 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just like that
@canman50604 жыл бұрын
The Munich Agreement is about 'over the dead body' of your country from Germany , Britain , France , and Poland.
@vojtechslezak45534 жыл бұрын
And i still feer like the dwarf king from Warhammer fantasy when i hear Munich :( This Grudge has to be settled one day!
@stepanpytlik40214 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Of course I don't like It
@VaclavB0014 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Well, they took the opportunity they had at the time. They were well aware of the danger from Germany and hoped this act (however shameful) will help them in diplomatic relations with GB and France. Eventually, it did - in September 1939 western powers hesitated no more - for Poland, unfortunately, it was too late. I'm coming from the CS part that was taken by Poland and yes, it still resonates. My grandfather was due to that one of few Czechs forced in Wehrmacht because during the war it was no more Czech (resp. B&M Protektorat) nor Poland land and men from Tesin region had to join German duty or be executed.
@SuperLusername4 жыл бұрын
"No more appeasement!" cried the British as they suffered -10% stability
@panzerofthelake5064 жыл бұрын
They are already at -3 stab that wouldn't change a damn thing
@panzerofthelake5064 жыл бұрын
@Odysseas G no cb while -3 stab is a no brainer. Especially because Britain has so much money that they can afford lev 3 advisors and can get admin points from clergy so they can get back to 0 stab quickly. Doing so will get them some absolutism that they lost while appeasing the Germans.
@MrSinjoy4 жыл бұрын
What a childish fantasy!
@SuperLusername4 жыл бұрын
@@panzerofthelake506 I am fairly confident you slightly missed the game
@panzerofthelake5064 жыл бұрын
@@SuperLusernamewhat EU4 mod allows for persentage stability?
@samrevlej9331 Жыл бұрын
16:46 What's funny is Édouard Daladier's, the French premier, own return to France. He was much more pessimistic (or maybe realistic) about what the Treaty of Munich meant, and expected to be greeted by tomatoes and insults when he landed at Le Bourget airport. Instead, he was welcomed with cheers and thanks for saving peace. Reportedly (though he later denied this), he muttered: "Ah, les cons ! Ils croient que je leur amène la paix." ("Ah, the f*cking morons! They think I'm bringing them peace.")
@fortis36864 жыл бұрын
Aka: the policy of Hitler saying “I want that thing” and the allies saying “you can’t have- oh fine! You can have that thing”
@tristenpettyjohn4 жыл бұрын
This angered his father who punished him severely.
@lubu29604 жыл бұрын
but no more!
@finrodbrs4 жыл бұрын
You've watch Oversimplified haven't you.
@mcdrums874 жыл бұрын
“You lied to me.” “What did you expect? I’m Hitler!” /OverSimplified before anyone reports me...
@yetigriff4 жыл бұрын
Lou and Andy sketch from Little Britain
@AFGuidesHD4 жыл бұрын
"If you want peace you must prepare for war" Germany: Prepares for war. Britain: N-no not like that.
@PastPresented4 жыл бұрын
And yet, preparations for a "total war" waged by Germany against Britain, including the establishment of the ARP, shelter and blackout systems were conducted during the autumn of 1938, and by spring 1939 the issue of gas-masks to the whole population was completed. Additionally, of course, Britain's armed forces were being significantly improved.
@3dcomrade3 жыл бұрын
Ahh my favorite probable Nazi sympathizer
@youngyoughurt3 жыл бұрын
Well I agree however there is the other unfortunate side to this saying: "If you want war prepare for war."
@QuestioningYam3 жыл бұрын
@@3dcomrade who? Neville? Or the guy who posted the comment?
@3dcomrade3 жыл бұрын
@@QuestioningYam the commenter guy. You will find quite a lot of his comment being a German simp to the point you question whether he is a Wehraboo or a Nazi in hiding
@WayneMoyer4 жыл бұрын
Check out who shows up at 6:07. It's our buddy August Von Mackensen! You can't miss that hat/helmet. It just stands out in a crowd.
@philippinecircularflag20234 жыл бұрын
Hurrah for the last Hussar
@KaptenN4 жыл бұрын
When Germany remilitarized the Rheinland they actually had a retreat plan ready, in case the French would intervene.
@johnalan60674 жыл бұрын
The french government at the time was also more afraid of its own army than it was of Germany
@panzerofthelake5064 жыл бұрын
@Clownface but German economy was highly unstable and would crumble if the reuhr was occupied
@6574494 жыл бұрын
The French army was ill served by its leadership and politicians.
@charleswood70014 жыл бұрын
The French intervention plan was retreat.
@subscribeorsus68624 жыл бұрын
@@noobster4779 the french army was superior yes. But not France
@yourstruly48174 жыл бұрын
Is it on purpose that the video is 19:39 minutes long?
@EdMcF14 жыл бұрын
Yes, 'cos at that point, a lot of things stopped.
@danielweiss73964 жыл бұрын
It actually wasn't. Lol that is really funny though that it ended up like that.
@yourstruly48174 жыл бұрын
@@danielweiss7396 How do you know?
@danielweiss73964 жыл бұрын
@@yourstruly4817 I edited it.
@yourstruly48174 жыл бұрын
@@danielweiss7396 good job!
@martinfabian73234 жыл бұрын
And do not forget, that after Munich Czechoslovakia lost its main fortification line, so the country was defenceless... Also Czechoslovakia had a significant military industry, so Wehrnacht nicely equiped itself after occupying Czech lands. This also made further nazi expansion possible. Great episode guys... Keep up the good work.
@shawngilliland2434 жыл бұрын
Czech industrial production was obligated to produce armaments for Germany until the factories were physically overrun.
@dabda85104 жыл бұрын
The fabulous bren light machine Britain used in the WW2 was a licensed version of the Czechoslovak ZGB 33 light machine gun which, in turn, was a modified version of the ZB vz. 26.
@sansoucci53944 жыл бұрын
Yes .. what would have happened if the Czechs would have called the Germans bluff? what would have happened if The USSR ,Britain & France would have stood by the Czechs ? Hitler's regime would have probably imploded.Instead the cowardice of Czechoslovakia,s "allies" gave the evil lickspittle Hitler a victory, a BLOODLESS victory, he could not have imagined in his wildest dreams.And as you have said The Czech armaments industry and Gold reserves all went towards building up the Nazi war machine.It was a fucking tragedy, and one that could have easily been avoided.
@saiien24 жыл бұрын
@Großösterreichisches Reich well Czech lands were industrial heart of Austrian empire. After Czechoslovakia declared independence in 1918 almost 80% of austrian industrial power belonged to Czechs. No surprise they had one of the best tanks in that time.
@MrCrashDavi4 жыл бұрын
@@sansoucci5394 Britain wanted Hitler to Invade the USSR.
@aachim74 жыл бұрын
Indy quoting Robert California, isn't it just the most awesome thing ever!
@bsdkflh4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not gonna lie this took me by surprise
@ProSkAhmir4 жыл бұрын
THAT THE BEST SO FAR IVE HEARD FROM INDY QUOTATIONS
@ProSkAhmir4 жыл бұрын
@Jim lastname its one of the fabolous characters in The Office
@krzysztofsobucki96814 жыл бұрын
Can You give me the time of this quote? I've missed that...
@Brianf669994 жыл бұрын
@@krzysztofsobucki9681 It's the very last quote "I'm the f*cking lizard king!" Robert Californias best line imo!
@nineviaaware49104 жыл бұрын
I would add that after the Munich agreement the USSR replaced ally-friendly Litvinov with axis-friendly Molotov, which propelled Germany into futhering their expansion policy. Overall a great video, please never stop making these.
@nathanseper87384 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan And then they proceeded to massacre the Poles and the Lithuanians. But despite that, the Soviets deserve to be applauded.
@TapOnX4 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan The German-Soviet agreements are arguably the worst example of dealings with Hitler, considering the timing, the scale, and how the USSR used them for their own expansionism. In hindsight, that cooperation, which the Soviets were supposedly forced into, also backfired on them, considering how the Germans would be very unlikely to gather resources needed for the Barbarossa without the imports from the USSR. But of course everyone did "it", everyone is evil, stalinists did what they had to, what the USSR did is basically OK, we've never heard that line from a Soviet apologist.
@majormononoke89584 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan All countries killed millions of their citizens? All countries invaded other countries and killed most of its population? THE Soviet union helped NAzi Germany in any possible way to destroy the people of the soviet union. Send the ressources, bring them to our border, help them to get more allies, dont attack them in the first days when they are invading us, move the troops to not well fortified positions, dont be preapred for a attack only in 10 years, conterattack everytime it is worst possible moment for your own army, let stalin make plans, purge your army officiers briefly before the attack, let political commisars have the central authority in the battalion, every typ of tactic should be revalued by propaganda, all but the pacts with our supposed natural enemy, etc. But of course we have not the mind to put the situation into perspective because that would destroy our pathetic world view...
@СергейМихайлов-н5ю4 жыл бұрын
@@TapOnX You forget that the USSR in 1939 was not at all ready for war. The country seriously lagged behind Germany in aircraft, engine building, communications, etc. Stalin was afraid to be face to face with Hitler. England and France "merge" the USSR to Hitler as well as Czechoslovakia.
@TapOnX4 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan It's not "bullshit", and the fact that you are unable to write a single post without bringing up atrocities committed by other countries proves it. "the capitalists" you refer to are a straw man, since there isn't a single "capitalist" ideology responsible for colonialism, imperialism, ethnic cleansing etc. In general, modern societies find these practices repugnant, just like they should disavow soviet-style communism. Which, by the way, is not a "lesser evil", since it is not the only alternative to some greater evil. It's just another blight upon the world which makes things worse wherever it arrives.
@mattias_neander4 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that Seyss-Inquart was hanged after the Nuremberg Trial in 1946, and that he did not die 1970. A mistake? Great episode though, you guys are killing it!
@WorldWarTwo4 жыл бұрын
That is indeed a copy / paste mistake!
@obelic714 жыл бұрын
yes he was hanged in Oktober 1946, for mostly the warcrimes he orderd in Austria and the Netherlands
@kleinweichkleinweich4 жыл бұрын
'Scheiss inQuark' is not a Name
@jimanderson76484 жыл бұрын
@@kleinweichkleinweich no Shit in Quark is not a name either lol
@arandomuseroftheinternet80034 жыл бұрын
@Micheal Koch Shut it Nazi
@canthama27034 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode, vibrant, informative and with a killing end, well done guys, this series rocks.
@MensaCramps4 жыл бұрын
"I am the fucking lizard king!" Damn, Indy! Starring in a heavy metal video got you to kick up a notch or two.
@vlanAlf4 жыл бұрын
In 1938 Czechoslovakia had one of the largest military budgets on the world and largest among democratic nations. Its border defense second only to Maginot line itself (but wasnt finished yet). Czechoslovakia high comand did has plans for war against Germany 1v1, but they count on fact that both Poland and Austria must be neutral. If thats not a case then strategy was to buy time for France to attack. That plan had certain unforseen weekness. BTW. reason why I like Churchill isnt because what he did during WW2, I like him for what he said about Munich treaty. 80 years later whenever anyone wants points out why western powers are not trust worthy and why we should have closer ties with Russia or China, guess what they still pulls out?
@matyasruta81664 жыл бұрын
Czechoslovakia had even a treaty with France, that "if" the Czechoslovakia will be attacked by Germany, France will send their bombers (mostly M.B. 200 which was also manufactured under new name in Czechoslovakia) as a help to Czechoslovakia. When this treaty had been signed, Czechoslovakia had built several airports just for this operation. Also Charles de Gaule sad, that Munich treaty shudn't been signed, but that's for diferent discussion.
@vojtechslezak45534 жыл бұрын
Army was ready for war somewhat, airforce? Yeah not so much. While we did have trained pilots, 75% of airplanes was post WW1 garbage. Imagine flying that vs ME109 an spol.
@nathanseper87384 жыл бұрын
Didn't Churchill say "you have chosen shame and you will have war?"
@jussim.konttinen49814 жыл бұрын
Although Neville Chamberlain made the declaration of war too hastily, he was ahead of his time and a true genius. The policy of appeasement he invented has continued to this day with great success.
@vlanAlf4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanseper8738 He said that Chamberlain got to choose between shame and war. He chose shame and will have war.
@ArtrexisLives4 жыл бұрын
Ooooh my first early access since becoming a Patreon! Absolutely love this and the WW2 series!
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the TimeGhost Army!
@ArtrexisLives4 жыл бұрын
@@TimeGhost happy to be on board!
@mitchverr93304 жыл бұрын
I am really glad that the video comments on the British and French rearmament program, this is often heavily overlooked when Appeasement is talked about. The big problem of course is, its a hell of a lot easier to re-arm a country as a dictator over being a democratic leader. Though do remember all, that the main rearmament began in 1935-1937 with the shadow factories and RO factories.
@michaeltempsch52824 жыл бұрын
It also makes it simpler when the plan to pay for it is by robbing your neighbours...
@tomfu62104 жыл бұрын
How does into this rearnament theory fit the fact, they've put into Hitlers hands equipement for army of 1 000 000? 700 000 rifles, 40 000 machine guns, 500 tanks, 2500 guns (including heavy guns Germany didn't have and later used in France and USSR), 900 military aircarfts... Plus millions of pieces of munition, stores full of raw materials and gold and foreign currency so needed by German economy. Its military production was boosted up by 25%.
@mitchverr93304 жыл бұрын
@@tomfu6210 They didnt? If you are on about the Munich agreement, the equipment wasnt taken then, it was taken later on. Before this was arguably Germans moving about in Germany or the Austrian event which the allies had no real power over, nor did the Italians attempt to become involved. This gave the British and French about 8 months of time to prepare, they didnt expect Czechoslovakia to completely collapse like it did and even funneled large sums of money into the country to try and help it stay stable, but simply it was no longer able to survive because the Czechs were no longer the dominant power in the country anymore, which was not expected to happen. The germans got that when they invaded later on, March 1939 which was when the British and French mobilised their forces and went into a true war footing and at this point, the British actually had working military factories producing "modern" designs. Remember, in september when the british armoured brigade was landing, only a couple dozen tanks were actually modern tanks, the vast majority were outdated matilda 1s and light tank mk II/VIs which were all armed with machineguns and they had a very limited number of cruiser tanks, which vastly increased by May to the point the British could field enough to send some to Egypt too, which would then defeat the Italians there (without which arguably Egypt and the middle east would likely have fallen).
@tomfu62104 жыл бұрын
@@mitchverr9330 They funelled some money? :-D they didn't send a single penny. They even forced Czechoslovakia to give up areas, where Czechs were dominant power, because there were resources or industry Germans needed and wanted. Of course Germans took stockpile of equipement even in 1938, they later forced Czecholovakia to sell its heavy guns and other equipement and took the rest in 1939. The new border line was drawn to be indefendible, it was obvious. Or were British politicans and generals idiots. There were no chance for Brits to get into a land fight with Germany in 1938. There was no German plane able to reach British soil. It all happened as result of Munich and fall of Poland. Brits took time to build army as strong, as was the army, they handed down to Hitler. if it si not stupid, what is?
@tomfu62104 жыл бұрын
@@mitchverr9330 Oh BTW, when in 15.3. 39 Germany invaded rest of Czechoslovakia, its gold was deposited in Britain. Germany asked for it and guess what happened...:-D
@dragosstanciu98664 жыл бұрын
At 15:43 there is a little mistake, Romania had no benefits if Czechoslovakia would have been invaded, Romania was actually a friend of Czechoslovakia in the Little Entente, Romania was the only neighboring country that had no territorial claims against Czechoslovakia. Unfortunately Romania did not help Czechoslovakia against Germany because the Romanian army was not ready for war.
@matyasruta81664 жыл бұрын
Romania was big partner of Czechoslovakia. Part of Czechoslovakian rifles and tanks were exported to Romania. Also we (Czechoslovakia) were owe them for their help during the war with Hungaria. Just some more facts.
@richardaubrecht28224 жыл бұрын
The Little Entente was against Hungary and against the possibility of reinstating the Habsburg dynasty in any of the former countries. Germany wasn't even considered when the treaty was signed, and in 1938 Germany was the biggest commercial partner of both Romania nad Yugoslavia. Romania had no obligation to help, and frankly while they possibly sympathised with us, any action would be very bad for them. they were soon betrayed by Hitler anyway, when he forced them to cede Transylvania to Hungary.
@dragosstanciu98664 жыл бұрын
@@richardaubrecht2822 In Romania there was a plan, and work started after 1936, for a broad-gauge railway to be used by the Soviet army through northern Romania to bring troops and weapons to Czechoslovakia. Romania would have allowed the passage of Soviet troops but only through a narrow corridor in the north. Unfortunately that railway was never finished.
@richardaubrecht28224 жыл бұрын
@@dragosstanciu9866 Well, the Soviets were all talk and no action anyway. They wanted the reputation without actual risk.
@fuqupal4 жыл бұрын
Romania were allies of nazi deutschland
@mcdrums874 жыл бұрын
“Hey. I want that thing.” “No you can’t have that-okay fine. You can have that thing but no more!” “Hey. I want that thing.” AAAAaaand repeat.
@risannd4 жыл бұрын
"Hitler's invading the rest of Czechoslovakia"
@calistoyew13134 жыл бұрын
Excel Coananda “… What?”
@risannd4 жыл бұрын
"He's invading the rest of Czechoslovakia."
@calistoyew13134 жыл бұрын
Excel Coananda “… Oh. You lied to me.”
@risannd4 жыл бұрын
"What do you expect? I'm Hitler."
@Scarlioni4 жыл бұрын
"The lizard king into a hydra" was wonderful hyperbole and delivered well.
@anakinthemannequin692 жыл бұрын
And kind of ironic if you've seen the Marvel movies.
@kulturedyobbo4 жыл бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that Winston Churchill had read Hitler's Mein Kampf years before 1938. This might explain why Churchill, more than any British politician at the time, realised the strategic disaster that the Munich agreement embodied. Moreover, in August-September 1925, a German Conservative politician, lawyer and landed Prussian Junker had also read Mein Kampf, and instantly realised the potential danger, even then, that Hitler posed for Germany, and indeed Europe's future. Iread this in a book by the American author Jane Pejsa, published in 1992, titled "Matriarch of Conspiracy" -- about the life of fellow neighbouring Junker Ruth von Kleist. Ewald became very close lifetime friend to her eldest child Jurgen, who was a cousin of Ewald (Albeit, their common ancestor went back generations). In August 1938, Ewald actually met with Churchill in London, to discuss a planned German Underground plot, to depose Hitler, in the wake of an envisaged failed invasion of the Czech Sudetenland --- that was were Anglo-French (albeit, probably more French) military action came in. In the failed invasion, the time for an opportune coup against Hitler would present itself. However, in Munich in late September, Chamberlain's fawning appeasement, scuttled all such hopes.
@marylinolazagasti97154 жыл бұрын
I’m binging on this channel, Words can’t express how much I love its contents, ♥️
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
That makes us very happy to hear - thank you!
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ekАй бұрын
Brilliant Episode!!!
@georgespragens75894 жыл бұрын
Chamberlain: "Ignore whatever that Churchill fellow is saying about war and shame. He doesn't have a f***ing clue."
@wandaperi4 жыл бұрын
He actually said the word that is spelled the same way that a certain village in German-occupied Austria is ?
@matthewmayton18454 жыл бұрын
Love the build up, waiting for Indy to explode at the end and just calm down as though nothing happened
@paulfisker4 жыл бұрын
The ending 👏👏👏👏👏👏 thank you!
@canman50604 жыл бұрын
One more part of 1939 I think.
@crazypaulinquebec4 жыл бұрын
Love that dramatic ending Indy!! Great series!! Keep up the excellent work!
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
We do our best! Thank you
@hannahskipper27644 жыл бұрын
AWESOME ENDING, Indy! That's why I love your work! Austria: don't do anything when the German Army comes for a visit. Capt. Von Trapp: SH*T Maria: how do you solve a problem like we're having? Churchill: war will solve this problem but no one will listen to me. British public: we all like Chamberlain's soundbite. I'm sure it will be his most famous one forever.
@markhodge74 жыл бұрын
As you guys brilliantly connect the dots in this series, you've now connected the tangents. Key, powerful threads that direct various momentums in the same direction. Yes hindsight is 20/20. Your series makes the inevitability of WW2 a 20/10 conclusion. Was it really avoidable? Truly a ghost. Impossible to see how. We must learn from this period of history
@scumballer66564 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, that's some real energy, Indy! What a helluva'n episode
@TutorWindow4 жыл бұрын
Dang! Great closing remarks, delivered well.
@VaclavB0014 жыл бұрын
The Bell of treason is tolling Whose hand made it swing? Sweet France Proud Albion And we loved them. (F.Halas 1938) The perspective of avoiding war from Britain and France's point of view "slightly differs" from the Czechoslovak one... Sadly the truth is that they did the best at that time with their experiences from the last Great war - but they all underestimated Hitler's appetite.
@kamilkrupinski17934 жыл бұрын
Well. They fucked up. We (I`m Polish) fucked up. And in the end, we ALL got fucked.
@RedbadofFrisia4 жыл бұрын
As much as a sympathise with Eastern European nations that got a bad deal, will your nation now commit another generation in the flower of their youth after just having lost one, for a nation they barely know and can hardly protect? I'm glad you can put yourself in Western shoes partially, I don't often see this. Noone knew what was coming, they made the choices that seemed best at the time with the information they had.
@oLii96x4 жыл бұрын
Why didnt the Czechs go to war anyways?
@VaclavB0014 жыл бұрын
@@oLii96x This is the question that tortures us for the last 80 years. "What if we have had fought..." Maybe good topic for Alternate history channel. Well, the terms of Munich agreement were set in such a way that if Czechoslovakia had declined it, they would stand not "just" against Germany but also against France and GB as well.... and that would be suicide.
@tomfu62104 жыл бұрын
@@KnightofAges At least we don't force Ukraine to surrender and we've imposed some sanction on Russia. Germany in 1938 was not a nuclear superpower. It would have a lot of trouble to knock down Czechoslovakia alone. If the war would start in 1938, France could march back into Rheinland with no opposition at all. All German army was on our border. If sanctions would be imposed on it, Germany would collapse within few month. It's economy was in hughe debt.
@SapienAnamoly4 жыл бұрын
Minute 18:00 to 18:39 gives me chills. Such a powerful statement.
@amyhogarten50384 жыл бұрын
Wow. I always thought Jim Morrison was the Lizard King. Always learn something new on this channel!!
@edlawn54812 жыл бұрын
"I am the Lizard King, I can do anything."
@gamtngirl36554 жыл бұрын
LOVE this historical series. History should have been so fascinating in school.
@dwfields63004 жыл бұрын
What a great series! The interwar years are a fascinating time in European history, and your series is wonderful to watch. I have to ask, though, about the artwork and especially the corner piece of furniture behind Indy. Can anyone tell us more about them?
@vladimirpalik66974 жыл бұрын
The cornerrpiece is a tiled stove. Portraits on its sidse are Tamara Lempicka's works.
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
The artist of the paintings is Tamara Łempicka. The left-hand painting is called 'Portrait of a Young Girl in a Green Dress' and the right-hand one is titled 'Portrait De Madame Boucard.' And in the middle is a Dutch 18th century masonry heater, also called ceramic heater, that was originally in a mansion in Munich until WW2. It was then disassembled and stored in a cellar to preserve it from the wartime bombing. When Munich was being rebuilt the owners ended up never reinstalling it and instead sold it, so that in 1947 it was installed here.
@chrisjackson11884 жыл бұрын
Indy has got to be one of the best speakers on youtube right now. This is how documentaries are supposed to be !
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, glad you like it.
@FalconRS4 жыл бұрын
“I saw my enemies in Munich, and they are worms.”
@diegoskater6264 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the final speech really gave me the chills
@sqirrle63574 жыл бұрын
„The furnaces of German nazism has fueled...“ This comment in particular didn’t age to well
@yorick60354 жыл бұрын
Hot damn Indy, starting from 18:25 might just be the most intense and incredible ending to any of these episodes. Also the ending quote was well chosen and sounds like something Churchill would have said to Hitler in Munich, if he was PM instead of Chamberlain.
@christopherjustice64114 жыл бұрын
Indy: The lizard king has grown into a Hydra! Johan Schmidt has entered the chat.
@phobos2077_4 жыл бұрын
That final monologue is... damn. This guy rocks.
@lacasadipavlov4 жыл бұрын
19:17 the office!!!!!!!
@pathutchison98664 жыл бұрын
That final sentence about lizard king turned hydra may be the coolest thing you’ve ever said. And that’s saying a lot. Then you went and topped it.
@xMaTx44 жыл бұрын
Great "the Office" reference!
@io00114 жыл бұрын
I am really enjoying this series. Keep up the good work! It is hard to find youtube content this good.
@ScooterWeibels4 жыл бұрын
I think the 3 most important topics that led to WW2 Appeasement, Spanish Civil War and 2nd Sino Japanese War. Kind of an obvious list, but all 3 are going on simultaneously in 1938.
@gagamba91984 жыл бұрын
USSR allowing Germany to secretly train military in Russia in the '20s and early '30s in violation of Versailles and Locarno. Poland was concerned about this cosy relationship and sought a military alliance with France. France (and Britain) failing to station troops in Poland - even to act as a tripwire - did nothing to aid the defence of Poland by dissuading German aggression. With the building of the Maginot Line in 1929, France announced to Europe it would rely on a defensive posture. France failing to extend the line along the Belgian border allowed Germany to repeat the invasion route of WWI. Very important but overlooked: 1) the secret German-Soviet Trade and Credit Agreement of '39 that provided vital war materiel, chiefly fuel, to Germany; and 2) German secret acceptance of Stalin's demand to seize Romanian Bessarabia. This pushed neutral Romania into the Axis camp and with this came its Ploesti oil for Germany. Having secured vital resources assured the Germans that it could undertake offensive operations against western Europe and later taking Ukraine and the oil-rich Caucasus was feasible. Babarrosa Resources and logistics must be obtained to support the military. Tanks without fuel and soldiers without ammo and food are worthless. And the controversial opinion. Had Poland been receptive to Hitler's overtures starting in '33 to ditch France and form a military alliance with Germany against the USSR, then German troops _permissibly_ transiting through Poland to invade the USSR would have removed the casus belli of defending Poland for France and Britain.
@gagamba91984 жыл бұрын
Because Lenin and his henchmen were seen to be German agents acting on behalf of the Kaiser. With the outbreak of war in 1914, a Russian communist emigre in Constantinople named Israel Lazarevich Gelfand, nom de guerre Parvus, contacted the German ambassador there with a proposal of an alliance between "Prussian bayonets and Russian proletarian fists." The Germans sent him to Berlin to meet with the Foreign Office in Berlin in February 1915. He and Foreign Office put together a 23-page plan on the overthrown of the Tsar. A month later Berlin provided 2 million marks, the first of many allocations, to support revolutionary activities in Russia. Adjusted for inflation, these funds totaled about $600 million. Weapons and dynamite crossed the border and were delivered to the communists. With the help of these war supplies from Germany, ships were sunk in Archangelsk and ports were dynamited. Parvus's actions were coordinated by the German ambassador in Copenhagen. The Germans then shipped Lenin and his cohort from Switzerland to Russia via Germany and Sweden to undermine the new civilian government, which came to be led by Kerensky, who had pledged to keep Russia in the war - Lenin arrived in Petrograd on 3 April '17. To support the provisional government (Kerensky), the Entente powers continued shipping war supplies to Russia. Further, Russian socialists including many Bolsheviks were suspicious of Lenin because he was the recipient of capitalist support - Germany's. In return, some Bolsheviks were attacked by Lenin for joining the provisional government. In their mind the old social democrat Lenin had become anarchist Lenin. There was a power struggle between these factions plus several other non Bolsheviks, such as the Mensheviks. There were also those who sought to free their ethnic homelands from Russia, be it ruled by a Tzar or a Bolshevik. Don't forget: Lenin didn't overthrow the Tsar, he overthrew Russia's first elected government. And also murdered the Tsar. The Germans too would later come to understand their mistake in supporting Lenin. Major General Hoffman wrote, "We neither knew nor foresaw the danger to humanity from the consequences of this journey of the Bolsheviks to Russia." During the negotiations in Brest Litovsk with Germany, which began on 22 Dec '17, the Bolsheviks walked out, declaring "no peace, no war." Germany resumed the war, chasing Trotsky's force from town to town, to put pressure on Lenin, who fled from Petrograd to Moscow, making it his and since then USSR/Russia's capital. Taking Russia out the war (Treaty of Brest Litovsk) allowed Germany to redeploy the bulk of its Eastern Front forces west. Germany also hoped to obtain supplies from Russia and Ukraine, but this didn't materialise due to the civil war. Erich Ludendorff, the architect of Germany's military success in the east, designed a new campaign to defeat the Entente allies, or at least have them sue for peace. But don't forget, Germany also sent troops north to Finland in the spring of 1918, which the Entente believed was intended to launch a campaign against the northern Russian ports to capture much needed war supplies - Germany was in desperate need of everything. With supplies Germany could fight on, particularly important now that the Entente was being supplied by the US. On 4 July '18, the Germans launched an offensive against northern Russia's Murmansk. British troops had been there since May, invited by the Bolsheviks, and they were joined by others of the Entente later. With the Germans moving into Georgia in May of '18, the British saw the Germans looking to seize the oil fields of Baku and also threatening British oil from the Emirate of Arabistan. With the toppling of Kerensky's government, Russia was in a civil war. The Entente allies decided to aid the White Russians because it was believed they would resume the war against Germany. They also wanted to make sure war material they had shipped to Archangel, Murmansk, and Vladivostok didn't fall into German and communist hands. In early '18, an American diplomat in Petrograd obtained documents that Trotsky, Lenin, and the other Bolshevik revolutionaries were not only in the pay of, but also agents of, the German government - these came to be known as the Sisson Documents. Years later is was found that many of the documents were forgeries, but in '18 they were seen to be credible. Keep in mind 11 Nov '18 was an armistice - a pause - and not a surrender, which was signed at Versailles 28 June '19 but not coming into effect until 10 Jan '20 - more than a year after the armistice. In the minds of the Entente was the possibility Germany could resume the war. Being resupplied by material captured from Archangel and Murmansk may have allowed Germany to do so.
@gagamba91984 жыл бұрын
When all you're left with is the no true Scotsman fallacy to substantiate your thought, you've lost. Lenin was murderous thug - almost as bad as Stalin. The late historian Richard Pipes, former director of Harvard's Russian Research Center, did a _What if_ analysis. Without Lenin’s coup there probably wouldn’t have been a Russian Civil War or the horrific War Communism famine. Without Lenin’s coup, the Bolsheviks would never have ruled Russia. The Bolsheviks couldn’t have won power democratically; they weren’t even able to win the first election after their coup. Under peaceful conditions, their radicalism would have alienated almost any electorate. Given Russia’s large culturally conservative peasant majority, the Bolsheviks wouldn’t have stood a chance. Without Lenin’s coup, attempted socialist coups in Germany, Hungary, and elsewhere probably wouldn’t have happened either. Few Europeans would have yearned for dictators to protect them from the Red Peril - or scapegoated the whole Jewish people for the misdeeds of a handful of prominent Bolsheviks of Jewish descent. Without the fear of Bolshevism, it’s quite likely that Mussolini wouldn’t have taken over Italy - and extremely likely that Hitler wouldn’t have taken over Germany. Indeed, if the Germans hadn’t gotten a foretaste of Bolshevism after World War I, Hitler might never have entered politics. Under moderate economic policies, there’s every reason to think that Russian economic growth would have resumed its very promising pre-war course. Russian industrial growth was more rapid than its European neighbors after 1880. Without Lenin’s coup, all the horrors caused by Lenin’s imitators around the world would have been far less likely. A Mao might have arisen in China without Soviet inspiration (and weapons provided after the USSR invasion of Manchuria in '45), but it’s not likely.
@nottoday38174 жыл бұрын
@@gagamba9198 Sooo, basically the whole argument you could make about Lenin being a german agent is disaproved by mentioning that the only solid evidence of that fact consisted of forged documents.
@nottoday38174 жыл бұрын
@@gagamba9198 As for Germany training in Russia, most such operations ceased when Hitler came to power. The Ribbentrop-Molotov treaty was signed specifically becaused it allowed the Soviet Union to reshape its military. In exchange for oil, USSR would receive technology and even a few ships and naval guns. (some were actually delivered). Not to mention the invaluable strategic gains obtained by the land-grab. As for Romania, that argument is mostly propagada reminescent from Antonescu era. The proof is that after the 'secret' protocol (which actually aided Germany with its secrecy, not USSR) Germany openly backed Hungary and forced Romania to sign the Treaty of Viena (1940) cedeing much more land in Transylvania to Hungary. The Hungarians promtly started the 'sping cleaning' of their new old new home and butchered thousands of our people. The loss of this land was even worse than Bessarabia as it contained industrial assets as well. (irellevant for wartime economy compared to the oil and air industry, but necessary otherwise). Furthermore, Germany backed another land concession to Bulgaria. So if 'land concessions' were the problem, Romania should have joined USSR or at least stay neutral. The thing is that Romania was economically dependent on Germany and the fascist movement and a pro-German dictator caught momentum (also taking advantage of a young and inexperienced King -may he rest in peace) That's the reason it joined Germany: economy and ideology
@Leon_der_Luftige Жыл бұрын
2:16 These two pictures are from Festung Ehrenbreitstein in Koblenz (Coblence) in case you wonder. The French soldiers are looking down to the "Deutsches Eck", the place where the Mosel river flows into the Rhine.
@tommy-er6hh4 жыл бұрын
I think you mistook Romania of 1937/8 with later WWII Romania. Czechs and USSR HAD an agreement WITH Romania that the USSR could send on one rail line the ground equip and GUARDS needed for the USSR air force to base in Czechoslovakia. USSR had elements of squadrons INSIDE Czechoslovakia at the beginning of the crisis, thinking that France would hold to it treaty of defense WITH Czechoslovakia. Then the betrayal. oh, i think that Germany also got the Czech weapons factories, which added 30% to ability to supply army.....
@petrpalecka59324 жыл бұрын
A production capacity which the Germans then took against France. Just look at the ex-Czechoslovak tanks used in the 1940 invasion of France and Low Countries.
@kennztube4 жыл бұрын
Love the outro dialogue. Yet another great show.
@charlesjmouse4 жыл бұрын
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill "You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war." -Winston Churchill
@artawhirler4 жыл бұрын
One of your best episodes in a great series! Thanks!
@AdamFordGhostships4 жыл бұрын
"appeasement has only fed the lizard king and grown him into a HYDRA!" !?!?? ... wich is now a seven headed LIZARD?
@leonardolongolippera75884 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for these few years before the war explodes, hope to see an entire Ribbentrop-Molotov pact episode soon!!
@alexandrejosedacostaneto3814 жыл бұрын
There is also the failure of the league to stop the very violent Chaco War, between Paraguay and Bolivia
@shrillbert4 жыл бұрын
Paraguay got to double its size, and Bolivia got the Death Road out of it, so it worked out, I suppose.
@joezephyr3 ай бұрын
Fabulous thank you Indy. Dunno how I missed this. Probably playing table tennis.
@britopia13414 жыл бұрын
He’s starting to swear a lot now. He’s kind of scary. 😂
@davethompson33264 жыл бұрын
So would I in 1936-8
@thechief004 жыл бұрын
lol it's cause he stopped giving a fuck about whether youtube was gonna demonetize his videos because no matter what youtube is gonna do it
@prajwalpingali4 жыл бұрын
He's ensuring COPPA won't fuck everything up. They'll somehow find a loophole
@MrFaorry4 жыл бұрын
Demonetisation does things to a man.
@marcoAKAjoe4 жыл бұрын
@@MrFaorry what is demonatize?
@Aeyekay04 жыл бұрын
The allies weren't prepared for a war but neither was Germany, it definitely would be interesting to think about how things could have been different had the allies called out the Nazis bluff. So many what if scenarios; what if Hindenburg didn't appoint Hitler as Chancellor, what if France created a task force in the Rhineland when Hitler remilitarized in 1936, what if the allies defend Austria from Anschluss, what if the allies defended Czechoslovakia.
@CHAR0N_194 жыл бұрын
On 23rd September, 1 250 000 Czechoslovak soldiers have been ready at their posts to face imminent German invasion. The vast fortification lines and fortresses , the big guns, the air force, the tanks that we have been developing to meet the enemy were waiting for their moments. It was a moment of Czechoslovak national glory. But still it was too little. The German army was clearly supperior opponent, with more modern and much larger airforce, greater level of mechanization and mobility, overwhelming armoured corps, number of soldiers surpassing ours in a ratio of 3:1, and of course the fifth column among our borders formed by Sudeten Freikorps, all of it comming at us from three sides, like a giant jaw, and also possibly counting on the help from Hungary and Poland. A defence of such a small country would make sense only in an aliance, such as the one that we had with France. When this was gone by the Munich agreement on 29th of September, when we have learned that we are alone, the most difficult decision in our entire history has been made - to lay down the arms, leave the forts and cede the Sudetenland to Germany. Many soldiers committed suicide at their posts. The fortifications served as a test site for the Germans to find out how to crack the Maginot line. After the full occupation of the rest of Czechoslovakia, the tanks and other armour was used by Germans in Poland, France and Soviet Union. The industry was used to produce light and medium tanks, like the Hetzer, and many others. The soldiers usualy managed to flee to Poland, and then to the west and east, to fight another day.
@nirfz4 жыл бұрын
Parts of the much smaller (than the Czech) and weakly equipped Austrian Army were at the border before the Anschluß too. They were as mentioned in the video commanded back and told to stand down. And almost all of them did. Last year i read about a small detachement i think in tyrol, that actually put up a fight. (because "they didn't get the memo" honestly, they really didn't get the information, and were punished afterwards if i remember correct.)
@matyasruta81664 жыл бұрын
Czechoslovak infantry was in the very good condition, artillery was good but part of the guns were WW1 style, the weakest was our airforce. Czechoslovakia had good airforce bud Germans would technologically surpass our biplanes (we can see this in Zurich air competition). The light fortification was builted but the heavy fortifications were built just in few sectors (definitely all of them). Also the big point about the light fortifications on the ex border with Austria is, that they were in place, but not really ready for use. Those fortifications was built in hurry, so the concrete was not stiff and few of the bunkers couldnt be used due hot temperature inside the bunkers (water from concrete was evaporating so it was really wet inside.
@1protun14 жыл бұрын
@@nirfz Similar incident happened during the occupation of Czechoslovakia as well. Germans were faster than orders to surrender which resulted in a skirmish. You can read more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Czaj%C3%A1nek%27s_barracks
@Josh-eu9wz4 жыл бұрын
You’re gonna have to loosen up that tie Indy!!! Hahahahaha! That was great!
@TairnKA4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how your voice and mannerisms become more pronounced towards the end. It reminds me of, of, you know who... ah, Hitler but I'm not sure if he switched to a quieter tone after reaching the crescendo of his speech? Thank-you and keep up the good work. I'm guessing your name is part of the scene?
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
Nope, it's his real name
@banishedfromars3 жыл бұрын
Your end rants are so great . My favorite parts .
@Orvieta4 жыл бұрын
I'm still not convinced that the last minute of every episode should have a louder volume than everything before.
@dyerex544 жыл бұрын
The foreign minister of Germany Von Ribbentrop was a champagne salesman. At Nuremberg he was asked if he knew about the declaration of the League of Nations 1927 on aggressive war he said no. According to G Gilbert in the book Nuremberg diaries he asked everyone from the janitor on up how his defense was going. He was another slippery worm who got what he deserved. You can read about in Volume 10 in the Avalon Project on Nuremberg which gives the whole story of the meeting between Von Schuschnigg and Hitler. Great video. Keep up the good work thank you
@dCash1174 жыл бұрын
Omg love the ending
@HistoryHustle4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video once again. Good job!
@markcantemail80184 жыл бұрын
"Fed The Lizard King " , golly Indy you sure got going there at the End . Thank you for another informative Video . I had a Pet Iguana for a short time in High school , my Mother poisoned it and it became limp and Died .
@yarpen264 жыл бұрын
I had to shut my laptop cover, I was so afraid he would leap out of the screen.
@lorenasmith71354 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Indy, I have listened to your many videos and loved your channel
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Nice to know you appreciate the videos
@MrHusker19964 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about the Munich agreement (or the Munich betrayal as it's commonly refered to as here) is that to this day there is this feeling of defeatism and distrust. How I envy polish national pride that was stolen from us back than. While we have "about us, without us" they have "polish thermopylae". If Těšín (Cieszyn) wasn't so strategically important for Czechoslovakia to take military action against Poland while they were fighting the USSR, maybe they wouldn't have backstabbed us back, maybe they would even stand with us, who knows what could have been... I seriously doubt they would allow the red army passage to Czechoslovakia anyway though. Anyway, it's just strange how different decision of our two countries while facing nazi agression formed our general nature or national pride to this day. (Btw UK has the greatest redemption arc ever imo)
@Crashed1319634 жыл бұрын
After the war our Ally Stalin, took over the governments in Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, Poland, Romania and Yugoslavia. The Baltic countries-Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania-were made into republics. Even Finland was partly controlled by the Soviets. Were not Stalin and Hitler twins?
@melprestondickson72913 жыл бұрын
Love the ending Indy. If only my school history lessons had been so good
@cristobalmanuelmoreno.llan2215 Жыл бұрын
How Stalin helped to start WWII. Suggestion
@frankm42432 жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation. Teach history the way it should be taught!
@TimeGhost2 жыл бұрын
@Frank Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Please stay tuned for more
@rbhptsdunit89104 жыл бұрын
at 6:05 we see the Totenkopf of August von Mackensen
@philipfrandsen18562 жыл бұрын
Very glad for your episode addressing the policy of appeasement.
@angelocortez44714 жыл бұрын
18:36 *HAIL HYDRA* [Insert Capt. America Meme here]
@starwarsgeek5014 жыл бұрын
I always love the hype endings you give Indy!
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I (Spartacus) am particularly pleased with this one.
@lovablesnowman4 жыл бұрын
@@TimeGhost who writes the scripts? Is it you or Indy? Or a blend of both
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
lovablesnowman we’re three authors for this series, Francis, Joram, and I. While I’ve written most of them, lately Francis and Joram are writing more of them. Indy also wrote two of them a while back. This one Francis and I co-wrote. Indy has his hands full with the weekly WW2 scripts, which he writes on his own, and Sabaton History that he co-writes with Markus.
@lovablesnowman4 жыл бұрын
@@TimeGhost if I can recommend a one off video going over the entire political events from 1919 to 1939. The format you've used is good for the individual topics but in terms of creating a grand narrative it's actually somewhat hard to follow. Maybe just mention all the major events on the timeline and create a narrative from 1919 to 39 (for Europe anyway) Even just more I'm depth videos on pre war politics would be great because obviously you don't get much pre war politics in the week by week episodes. I'm biased but I just find the political history more interesting than the military stuff
@pnutz_24 жыл бұрын
when chamberlain threw the czechs and slovaks under the wheels of the poland express
@MikeyD87164 жыл бұрын
Indy, man, you’re good at this!
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding4 жыл бұрын
Appasement logic: Give Hitler what he wants. Normal person: what if he wants too much? Appesement logic: *just give him what he wants* Normal person: *confused screaming.*
@druballard89294 жыл бұрын
Indy, You have to be the most well spoken and articulate host on You Tube. You keep me entertained from start to finish. P.s. I have noticed a few vulgarities from you lately. I hope its the proverbial finger to KZbin
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
When polite words fail to describe the full scope of idiocy, horror, and downright despair...
@druballard89294 жыл бұрын
@@TimeGhost could not have said it better myself. Damn good job!
@yossiallen3316 Жыл бұрын
And what have we learned?
@wheatley18664 жыл бұрын
This guy is so underrated he should have more subs
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@bbcmotd4 жыл бұрын
I hope we're gonna talk about how Stalin actually called for anti Hitler coalition several times but was ignored by the "cool countries"
@DP-qm6qe4 жыл бұрын
It was honestly a mistake. The allies believed still in the balance of power and wanted to keep nazi Germany strong enough to fight ussr.
@gregski41304 жыл бұрын
Stalin called for such coalition because he wanted to put his dirty hand on Central European countries. If Soviet army once entered Romania, Poland and Checoslovakia than would never back to USSR. Cold war would start seven years earlier.
@oliversherman24142 жыл бұрын
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
@chek83244 жыл бұрын
The video is 19:39 minutes long. Coincidence? I think not!
What would have happened if Czechoslovakia mobilized its armies and met Germany with force? Would France and Britain go to war over it? I mean, to go to war over Poland, or Czechoslovakia, whats the difference?
@dragosstanciu98664 жыл бұрын
The British and French people did not like the idea of going to war in 1938 to help Czechoslovakia. They wanted peace. All that changed in March 1939 when Hitler invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia and the French and British people realized that Hitler lied.
@mitchverr93304 жыл бұрын
They might join, but its a 95% chance that they would make only limited movements into germany for the opening stages just like with Poland, as neither the British or French were really ready for a logistical advance into Germany.
@XJevoX4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchverr9330 I understand that. It was actually better to be invaded "peacefully". In contrast, when Poland got invaded, the whole country got destroyed, unlike Czechoslovakia.
@saiien24 жыл бұрын
Actually they mobilised. Czechoslovakia mobilised 1 250 000 soldiers and in just 24 hours they were on their positions. Practicaly whole Czechoslovak army was mobilised and waited for Germans. Meanwhile the Munich conference took place and Czechoslovakia was forced to retreat from these territories.
@SovietFrans4 жыл бұрын
That The Office reference was the best!
@joembensman Жыл бұрын
Of course WWI was an awful war, full of greater destruction and loss of life than anyone thought possible back then. They didn't want to go through that again but what exactly did they think they would get with Hitler? Did they think he was the type of person to have a picnic with? Churchill and others saw through him, in my opinion fear guided people more in the 1930's than morals.. And if it hadn't have been Hitler, if the Nazis and he never came to power in Germany, I'm quite sure Stalin would have started a major conflict on his own. Either one was morally bankrupt and unacceptable. But as things played out, Hitler and Germany needed to be stopped no later than March 1938. That's when WWII should have started provided the west had anyone backbone. You don't give slack to people like Hitler because they will hang you with it every time. And to make matters worse even after the war started the west was still letting fear decide policy. They didn't do anything to help Poland in September 1939 even though they declared war on Germany to protect Polish sovereignty!! So even though the war started earlier than Hitler would have liked he still got away with Poland. Fear also was embedded in the west during the Phony War period before April 1940 as the west took no action against Hitler. Some people can not be dealt with they have to be outright stopped. Hitler was one of these people.. i believe it's more than just fear that prevented the west from greater action during the 1930's, there were some who did support Germany for trade or whatever reason, racism in part. But alongside fear there was ignorance. Either fear or ignorance will only let an evil like Nazi Germany grow and leave you in a weak position. I'm sorry there weren't more people like Churchill who saw right through Hitler and the Nazis back then.
@raysubsonic4 жыл бұрын
The historical trend of "bashing" Chamberlain and the League of Nations as "soft and effete" may well be revised in years to come. It is not hard to argue that Chamberlain's "soft diplomacy approach" was part of a wider program to shore up finances, political alliances, and to buy England time to ramp up defence spending and manufacturing. There is proof of UK defence programs being upgraded in the mid 1930's to match Germany, which was officially transitioning to a war economy from 1933 - 35. There were so many technological developments during this decade that caused an "arms-race" of sorts between European powers.
@alexanderekman92614 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t that bad, one must remember that war couldn’t really be declared until Austria at the earliest in 1938. By then neither Britain nor France was ready for a war. they then used appeasement to buy time, build aircraft and in general make them more ready. In reality they weren’t ready by 1939 either and that is ultimately why France fell
@AFT_05G4 жыл бұрын
Yeah,crumble of French industry after Wall Street Crash.Armament industry was a mess and aircraft production only reached considerable levels by 1939 but in same time Germany and Britain each produced 8300 and 7900 aircraft approx while France made a little bit more than third of their production.
@thomasbernecky20783 ай бұрын
A Czech friend told me that almost all of the Czech defenses were in the Sudetenland on Germany's border, so when WE caved in, that disarmed ALL of the Czechs.
@jorgecas56784 жыл бұрын
Can you put any subtitles in English please? I'm a big fan of your series and I'm not a English speaker.
@TimeGhost4 жыл бұрын
But this video has English subtitles..?
@jorgecas56784 жыл бұрын
@@TimeGhost Now. But when I wrote this comment that wasn't the case. Thank you!! Greetings from Spain.
@karelbroda88773 жыл бұрын
Outstanding lecture(s). Thank you.
@TimeGhost3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
@dams68294 жыл бұрын
Tbh since you mentioned what Times thought of Czechoslovakian crisis I am suprised you didn't mention that Hitler was made Time's man of the year in 1938.
@Crashed1319634 жыл бұрын
@@ralphbernhard1757 Did it matter? After the war Stalin It took over the governments in Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, Poland, Romania and Yugoslavia. The Baltic countries-Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania-were made into republics. Even Finland was partly controlled by the Soviets. Were not Stalin and Hitler twins?
@dams68294 жыл бұрын
As types of people they were similiar also ironically Stalin himself became man of the year in 1939 besides him making pact with Hitler allowing him to start ww2 in Europe and later bully Baltics into submission and then attack Finland in the same year.
@hobotopper4 жыл бұрын
Time bases its choices on the man/ person or thing of the year on who or what had “the greatest impact on the news, for good or ill.” It was the Computer one year.