Apple M3 Max MacBook Pro - A Long Term User Review

The Apple M3 Max version of the MacBook Pro is supposed to be the best laptop in 2024 for creators and other demanding users. But in this long term review I used it for over 4 months as my only laptop and came to some interesting conclusions about the MacBook Pro battery life, keyboard, temperatures, performance and noise. And what will happen when the MacBook Pro M4 is released?
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Why does the M3 Exist?
1:49 - Size Matters
3:06 - Worse Battery Life for the MacBook Pro?
4:20 - Thermal Management
5:37 - M3 Max is a BEAST!
6:54 - Design & Build Quality
8:23 - Keyboard & Trackpad
10:05 - MacOS Experience
11:53 - I’m switching back…
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[@rare6499]

Maybe they should offer reasonable memory and storage base specs and upgrade prices, might help them sell more laptops

[@achannelhasnoname5182]

Agreed. $500 for a 1TB SSD in 2024 is a joke.

[@wyntje83]

exactly, Apple is just insanely priced. To the point where I figured hey I can make a small form factor PC build with great cooling, 64GB and an 13600k for 1250 or buy a M3 pro macbook for 3500 and get less for way more... hmm.

[@Heimdall-hb5it]

@@wyntje83 price comparison of a tower to a laptop is a bit odd. 64GB and for instance a 4090 in a non cheap plastik Windows Laptop is also way over 2k

[@UONeal]

@@Heimdall-hb5iti completely agree... Maybe comparing it up a surface laptop or XPS maybe... But of course you can build a desktop for less... But building one better than an M series Mac mini at the price point that is as powerful would be a more accurate comparison and quite the feat

[@jaspreetsidhu5708]

Apple makes their money off hardware unlike android or some other makers who undercut the device cost and then sell your data or include bloatware. Memory upgrades are expensive but I'll happily pay as their hardware lasts for years. I speak from experience and as someone who switched from Windows to mac. Some software things confuse me but overall I would have a hard time going back to a PC. Build quality, battery life, and day to day usability are amazing.

[@sairithvickgummadala2688]

0:32 I hope Apple lowers the stupidly excessive money they charge for RAM and Storage upgrades so that people will actually find some meaning to buy a laptop that can never be upgraded

[@racerex340]

LOL, They'll reduce the price of each incremental upgrade by 20% in the M4 generation if sales stay weak and everyone will praise them for it, even though the bulk cost per GB of DRAM and NAND flash has already dropped by more than 60% since M1 and likely more like 70% by the time M4 is released.

[@sihamhamda47]

Also by today's standards, 1.6k dollars base model should give you at least 16GB RAM and 1TB storage. 8GB of RAM is a big no for a "pro" machine

[@jaspreetsidhu5708]

@@sihamhamda47 Dell's Alienware a don't do that for the price. Alot of high end PC's are expensive as well.

[@abhidatta_b9227]

You all seem to be missing the point about why Apple's RAM and SSD are worth the cost (and I'm saying this as a Windows user). From what I understand, Apple custom designs their RAM and SSD to work specifically with their chips and hardware, so a lot of production costs go into that. My dad works in the design sector for companies like Apple and Microsoft, so I have some insider knowledge on this. Meanwhile, with Windows, there are tons of brands competing, so they can just slap in off-the-shelf NVMe SSDs and call it a day. But even with that said, I'll admit Apple's pricing is still crazy expensive.

[@racerex340]

@@abhidatta_b9227 no dude, that's the marketing... They don't design RAM or solid state storage. They buy the same RAM chips for their MacBooks from Micron or Samsung to solder directly to their motherboard that Corsair buys to solder directly onto a DIMM. There are tons of other non-Apple laptops that also solder the same RAM chips to their motherboards as well. Apple buys the same DRAM chips, doesn't have the added cost of DIMMs and can technically run the memory speed a bit higher soldered closer to the CPU than when using the same DRAM on a DIMM/SODIMM slot, but with their buying power and not needing additional boards and RAM slots, it costs Apple much less per GB for RAM than Dell or ASUS would have to pay using SODIMM at the same capacity, like at least 30% less or more given their buying power. There is a difference with SSD, but it's not what you think. Apple uses the exact same NAND flash chips that your NVMe SSD manufacturers use. The big difference with Apple is that they brought the SSD controller into their Silicon, where as a NVMe or 2.5" SSD will have the controller on the M.2/drive itself. Since Apple is buying the same NAND storage chips as everyone else at quantifies/economies of scale unmatched by anyone else, not only are they paying less per GB for the raw NAND chip capacity, they don't have to pay for a separate controller for every "drive" as an SSD OEM does, no additional board required like an M.2 NVMe, no additional M.2 slot cost to solder to the main board. Apple can sneak more performance out of each same chip due to the proximity and connection to the controller/CPU/DRAM. So while Apple does gain some minor performance benefits from using soldered NAND chips instead of M.2 SSD's with those same chips (max maybe 10%), their cost per GB of usable storage in a laptop or mobile device is probably 30%+ less than someone like Dell's would be for the same capacity in their laptops if using an M.2 NVMe SSD. So yes, there are some technical benefits that Apple gets, but the biggest two benefits from them using soldered RAM and NAND SSD's is significantly lower cost (enormous profit margins) and lack of upgradability which not only drives more frequent upgrades, but creates obvious segmentation that naturally pushes buyers outside of their base models and into higher spec models that they make even higher gross profit % per unit on due to their massive markups. You need to realize that a company like Dell, ASUS or HP is probably making a about 15-20% gross margin if their lucky on their premium laptops. Apple also pays way less for distribution and retailers. That doesn't sound that bad, but when you realize that results in a Dell or HP making $300 gross profit on a laptop that sells for $1500, and Apple making $1400 in gross profit on similar or lesser capacity MacBook they sell for $2000, it's pretty disgusting. I the rest of electronics industry, manufacturing and selling something for $13 that cost them $10 is seen as successful, but Apple feels entitled to charge their customers at a minimum of least double what their costs were on a given product, in some cases triple, which is why they are one of the most profitable companies in human history. Tesla was doing the exact same thing until they exhausted the market of idiots willing to pay double what a conventional higher quality ICE vehicle sells for with less range, 1% the filling stations, and when competition finally arrived and they had to fight for sales, Tesla cut the price of their Model S Plaid from nearly $138,000 to $91,000. They are absolutely still making extremely healthy profit per unit, but they cut the price by $44,000, and that's often roughly the figure estimated for Tesla's cost of producing that vehicle. What Tesla is experiencing is exactly why Apple does what they do. This shit is out of control, and consumers treat these brands like cults and not only allow the behavior, they reinforce it by rewarding them by continuing to buy, by being frighteningly loyal and s1mping for%defending these brand ls publicly.

[@ariqahmer5188]

People really underestimate how much USD 7,000 is. You said it, it can buy you a car. Where I am staying, I can buy a relatively new car that went 5,000km with that money. It's bonkers

[@cal_gooo802]

ppl also really underestimate how high inflations are these days... dollar feels like yen

[@lantern214]

Or use it towards a property.

[@keerthan7558]

​@@cal_gooo802artificial inflation and over selling

[@naoseiquela00]

Where is it?

[@alpzepta]

$7000 can get you AMD Threadripper RTX 4090 PC

[@WidePhotographs]

Just bought the 13” MacBook Pro M2 24GB/1TB because Best Buy has it on sale brand new for only $1,299!! There’s no way I was going to let this price to specs pass up. People say 13” is too small but I tell them if I ever need more space, I’ll just connect to my desk monitor.

[@definingslawek4731]

Wow that’s actually such a deal, wish I could get a price like that in Europe. Yeah 13/4 inch isn’t too small. Both 16 and 14 inch displays are far too small to be working on all day. At home or at the office you should have a big display, my one is 42 inches. The built in display is for the couch and for travelling.

[@bhushan0_078]

that's too good to be a deal

[@ninjatogo]

The battery life comparison is weird. You're comparing your 16" model with a bigger battery and M2 Pro chip against the 14" model with a smaller battery and the most power hungry M3 chip. Other reviews have shown that the M3 Pro is more efficient than the M2 Pro.

[@samstreet101]

I think it's more of a real-world decision than a proper apples-to-apples comparison. He has laptop X which has great battery life, which is really important to him. He was offered laptop Y which has worse battery life, therefore it's a downgrade in real terms.

[@chidorirasenganz]

The funny part is that if he put it into low power mode it run equal to or better than the M2 Max withe half the power draw. So if he only cared about battery and thermal performance, problem solved

[@fathiaaly6024]

I agree he's comparing two different laptop. He sld compare 16' vs 16'

[@JarrodsTech]

Still using the MacBook Pro 14 with M2 Max, can't imagine I'd have any reason to upgrade for years!

[@rickenbacker472]

Something shiny with some new feature will come out, and you'll upgrade.

[@JarrodsTech]

@@rickenbacker472 Doubt. Not for years when performance uplift is worth it.

[@rickenbacker472]

@@JarrodsTech You might be right. I struggle with Gear Acquision Syndrome and FOMO myself. My guess is that Apple will add some new OS features that need some new AI hardware not found in the current models, or some other hardware refresh that will make us all run out and upgrade. They're very good at selling us their latest & greatest. Let's give it a couple of yesrs and see!

[@miked5444]

Looking for an M2 max now over M3 max just much better value for not much less performance

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@miked5444depends on your use case

[@akin242002]

Woah! 4k 10-minute video rendered in under 2 minutes seems crazy when factoring in older laptop performances. It used to take between 30 to 60 minutes.

[@weekendintokyo]

you know what's crazy? a m1 max would have the same export time as the m3 max, as the media-engines are the exact same ones, but max versions have double the encoders/decoders in comparison to the pro versions. Unless you're using gpu effects really heavily in your videos it's gonna be the exact same for m1/m2/m3 max for exporting video

[@rylanthreinen]

My M1 Max does it in almost the same time.

[@paulwoodward8265]

I think the 14” chassis can better handle the thermal load of the M3 Pro chip. If you want the Max, the 16” is pretty much required to be able to cool it. What you have there is not a great configuration, and leads to high fan noise and lower battery life.

[@johnvaleanbaily246]

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare the M3 16" to the M1 16" ?

[@paulmelnyk6897]

that would be fare

[@Indra_Ninja]

Yeah doesn't make sense to compare the size when both come with 16 inch models.

[@jwarendsen]

Yeah, there are a lot of differences between the 14 and the 16. Speakers, track pad, battery, screen size(duh) but also thermals, noise and therefore speed. Also fun to call out is that a 16" model can draw 15-20W more power for extra performance. No-one seems to be talking about that ever. Simply because it has the better thermal solution to get rid of the resulting heat.

[@jimtipton8888]

I actually went from a 16 M1 Max to a 14 M3 Pro MBP. For me portability was the driver. Actually have yet to regret the decision. Battery is actually pretty crazy on the 14 M3 Pro.

[@Sterhaer]

I recently made the move from the original M1 13“ MBP to the 16“ M3Pro base spec for exactly the same reason: Screen real estate. After working with the original MBP Retina 15.4“ for several years, working on the 13“ felt always „not so harmonious“. that feeling is back with the 16“ and I’m super happy. Performance wise I would be super happy still with the m1, but the size made me change. Would be curious to know how you would feel about the difference between two similarly specked and sized M1Pro and M3Pro machines.

[@slizgi86]

So Apple is to start hitting the thermal ceiling like they did with intel within 3 generations, that was fast :)

[@narutodayo]

“The keyboards aren’t the best, but they do get the job done.” Thank you for actually telling the truth about Mac keyboards and not pretending they’re amazing like most reviewers do.

[@DmitriyVostrikov]

Yeah, really wobby keyboard. I did return my M3 Max cause: display issue (blue at up and pink at bottom tint spots, which kinda not all people see, also backlight issues on display borders), absolutely stupid keyboard - you kinda put fingers in something viscous, this is how I feel it, M3 Max even in 16 inches case is HOT chip, non-legs friendly in any sense.

[@FullMetalPanicNL]

Apple should just lower their RAM and SSD prices if they want to sell more.

[@abhidatta_b9227]

You all seem to be missing the point about why Apple's RAM and SSD are worth the cost (and I'm saying this as a Windows user). From what I understand, Apple custom designs their RAM and SSD to work specifically with their chips and hardware, so a lot of production costs go into that. My dad works in the design sector for companies like Apple and Microsoft, so I have some insider knowledge on this. Meanwhile, with Windows, there are tons of brands competing, so they can just slap in off-the-shelf NVMe SSDs and call it a day. But even with that said, I'll admit Apple's pricing is still crazy expensive.

[@megatronusv2215]

​@@abhidatta_b9227 dude the ram upgrade (+8gb) is 200$. No fucking way you can justify that. It's not even faster than most ram in the aftermarket

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@megatronusv2215And Microsoft's ARM Surface Pro 9 still has removable SSDs. Apple does it to fuck over consumers.

[@Frozoken]

​@@abhidatta_b9227yeah no, that's marketing. Apples ssd especially is actually much lower performance than most ssds you can buy in all aspects except sequential transfers (= still not better). These basically don't matter in the real world but guess What? They give the highest numbers so they're great for marketing and that's the one metric apples ssds manage to keep up with, wonder why? The ram.on the other hand is literally just the exact same as what other manufacturers use when soldering it which is just the slower low power ram

[@ryangray600]

Had mine for about 4 months now… its amazing

[@rickystafford7433]

16” is just better…battery life, screen, sustained performance, speakers, but why didn’t you compare yours to a 16” M3 Max?

[@noizz4]

yes, this is a weird video, especially the battery life and thermal comparison

[@brxrmr]

Agreed. It's like he compared a compact car to a super car, of course one would be efficient and easy to drive inside the city.

[@sloanNYC]

There were so many weird things about the M3 that I decided to hold off until the M4 at least. The Performance vs Efficiency mix, the weird power consumption, but then the GPU architecture advancements do seem quite nice. The M1 being silent was such a huge feature, hope they can get back to that. (they really hold back sales with their insane RAM/SSD mark ups, and it hurts their brand loyalty, it makes EVERYONE upset and it is obviously just greed on Apple's part)

[@Chubbywubbysandwich]

The markup prices are definitely killing their sales. If they just started selling their base model with 16 gb ram, I would buy it without a second thought. But right now I have to shell out extra 200 dollars which is insane.

[@dtsdigitalden5023]

I'm actually finding that my older 2020 M1 Macbook still holds up perfectly well for on-the-go use. I never expected it to be as fast as my 4090 / 7950 x3d system. I have totally different expectations for a portable vs a desktop system. And while I'd never buy a Mac for desktop use, I'll only go Apple for a laptop. "The right tool for the right job" as the saying goes.

[@andyH_England]

It is version one of 3nm, so it will likely be rough around the edges.

[@tasosarpoudis1604]

well brother some people like me dont have multiple systems. I need something to cover everything and at this point in life and the way things are with tech i believe we need 16Gb of ram for sure. But a friend of mine in the same position as you has no problem with the M1 mac and truth is it can do anything than work better than pretty much anything. He does Work on a pc though@@dtsdigitalden5023

[@chennyye28]

One thing I am consider about is their support for AV1 codec, they only support the encoder but not the decoder, which is a bit strange, but in the meantime, nowadays the camera companies have not support 10bit av1 codec video, so I guess for now it doesn't matter, but at least for now the Lightroom export avif files will be very slow no matter which apple silicon.

[@dospaquetes]

10:35 is that a jailbroken 15 pro or did Apple add options to change the home screen layout without me noticing ?

[@grenade180]

I have a similar set up, i use a clear widget. It just fills in the space where apps go with the background.

[@FluffyAnnoyed]

I'm interested in going for my first Macbook and getting an M3 air 15. Mostly for battery life and I will definately be needing Windows as well for my work. But I am interested in some OSX nuances and workflow optimizations, so would absolutely like to see a video on that.

[@Darth-TBAG]

Just bought a refurbished m1 MacBook Pro and I couldn’t be more satisfied. It handles photo and video editing like a champ😊

[@kemc3630]

One mistake on the comparison , the M3 pro memory bandwidth is 150 , while M3 max is from 300 to 400 .

[@iphoneographypdx2851]

Great video! I hav been hearing many great reviews on the M1 Macs from multiple people, and how those machines are still phenomenal! I upgraded from an Intel 2019 15 inch MacBook Pro to the new 16 inch M3 Pro MacBook Pro and I love it! It is a tremendous upgrade! These M Series Macs are amazing!

[@xintee4679]

How does it make sense to compare the 14" vs 16" laptop? Most of the issues you complain are due to size. You start the video saying that the main drawback was screen size and that's why you switched back to use the M1

Back on my MacBook Pro with Retina display (from 2012) I dont have any problems with shiny keyboard. I think Apple removed a lot of coating on the keycaps. It is definitely much easier to smudge the keyboard and trackpad compared to how it was 10 years ago. Dont like it a bit

[@dajusta87]

Random thought: when it comes to benchmark comparison charts, most KZbinrs, if not all, use charts that indicate high graphs which label “higher is better” and then low graphs which label “lower is better”. May I ask why they don’t simply just invert the Y axis so that it is ALWAYS higher is better? For example, if low temps are good for a particular chart, why not have 0 degrees at the very top of the chart? Is it strange to see “high” graph for a “low” temp??

[@JohnEllisIII]

Sadly until Autodesk gets Revit running on Mac OS I’m in window land. GPU performance needs to continue to improve for BIM/3D modeling programs as well.

[@Semi-Detached]

I upgraded from a M1 Pro 14" to a M3 Max 16" base model. I had a family member who needed a new laptop and used giving them mine as an excuse to buy something new as I wanted to try the larger screen. Day to day use, I notice no real difference from a performance perspective. The only place I see it is in AI image generation or local LLM speed, but those aren't often used for me. The larger screen is nice, but I probably would have been just as happy going to a 15" M3 Air.

[@Frozoken]

Apple has stalled so hard and it's especially evident now that they don't have a new manufacturing node to bail them out seeing those have stalled too lmao.

[@rickenbacker472]

Imagine a world where you could buy a Macbook today, and in a couple of years time add more RAM, or swap-out your SSD for more capacity. I know, mindblowing, right???

[@adriftatlas]

My 17" MBP 2011 came with 4GB of RAM and a 500GB 7200RPM HDD. In 2014 I upgraded it to 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. I used it until I bought a 16" MBP 2021. Bought this one with inflated specs as I knew it wouldn't be able to be upgraded. Apple is not the only one soldering everything. Dell Precision workstations now come with soldered RAM. In a few years they'll likely solder the storage too. It's simply too lucrative for them to pass up charging four times the aftermarket cost of RAM and SSD.

[@rickenbacker472]

@@adriftatlas That's the way it should be my friend. 10 years of usage with incremental user updates. Apple are making fools of us all. They're not one of the biggest companies on the planet for nothing.

[@cameronbosch1213]

All brands won't solder the storage because then companies won't buy their laptops for data retention purposes. There goes a lot of money for those OEMs.

[@NaqqashLatif]

It's crazy to think how far ahead of time the M1 chips were. Eber, you may want to include the link to the wallpapers under your videos hah

[@addyjaiswal2309]

I just hate the notch i don't care (currently on m1) if phones can have cramed space so can the laptop screen or they could've just do what lenovo did have the panel extend a little bit where the camera modules are

[@j340_official]

If Apple offered 16 GB RAM and 512 GB/1TB storage as the base model, they’d sell a lot more units. The base model is ridiculous and borderline criminal in 2024 for a machine that is not easily user-upgradable (you can solder on more storage later on, but most people can’t or won’t do that). I prefer the 14” size… the 16” is too bulky for me even though it has more real estate, better speakers, better battery life, better thermal performance. Also, you say you don’t update macOS but I would recommend against that practice as Apple regularly patches zero day security vulnerabilities, many of which have been exploited in the wild. So by remaining on the older version of the OS, you’re actually unwittingly incurring a security risk by doing so.

[@andyH_England]

The M3 Pro and M3 Max start at 18GB/512GB! Only the base M3 starts at 8GB, and that is ultimately a souped-up ultrabook, not for Pro work per se. If you are doing "pro" work then do not buy the base M3, get either the M3 Pro or M3 Max chip.

[@definingslawek4731]

@@andyH_England 18gb of ram is way too little for a 2000 dollar machine in 2024. Student laptops had that 7 years ago. I tried to run my creative workflows on a base m3 pro but just couldn’t. It’s so ram starved. 32 is the minimum for any non web browsing workflow today. Obviously you can get by with less but it’s tough to be spending thousands of pounds and be struggling with a ram starved system.

[@andyH_England]

@@definingslawek4731 I agree that you can never have too much RAM, and 32GB is the sweet spot for pro users. However, 18GB of MB Pro 14/16 M3 Pro is fine for part-time or semi-pro users. Top pro users will buy the M3 Max, which starts at 36GB, more than many Windows pro machines, and you can go up to 128GB! Apple is covering all buyers. As for the price, Apple is premium, and you cannot expect it to compete with ACER and other cheaper Windows machines. Apple has been expensive for 20 years, and people are making the same complaints about prices, despite knowing this, is borderline excessive behaviour. A Merc has always been more expensive than a Ford, but we do not see the same complaints every release saying that Mercs are expensive!

[@j340_official]

⁠@@andyH_Englandthe price of those pro/max machines aren’t the base price tho. This is the first year/model that Apple is including the base m-series chip in the pro machine. I forgot about that. In my view, the base MacBook Pro should be a pro chip with at least 16 GB ram with 512/1TB. And at the price of the current base MacBook Pro model. That will move more units.

[@ottokite]

So out of the things you didn't like, 4 of them were because it was a 14" and not a 16". I did try a 16" but had to return it as it was too heavy (much heavier than my Intel MB Pro 15").

[@RookieTrader27]

Bro something about this video makes it soooo soothing ❤

[@tronyo7437]

will you do a review of the xps 14 and 16 ?

[@amarjotlohia2274]

Thank you so much for such a experienced and honest opinion. I was so confused between M3 Air 15" and M1 pro 16". M1 pro used is easily available around GBP1350 in the market. Thank you for helping me decide.

[@agr-tech]

Great review!

[@buraksahinkaya246]

very informative video thanks

[@user-mu9gh3go7p]

Is it true that keyboard is touching the screen when closed and over time it scratches off oleophobic coating?

[@andyH_England]

Not true for me from what I can see, and I am not sure it has an oleophobic coating as it is not a touch display.

[@definingslawek4731]

@@andyH_England it’s honestly a big shame that MacBooks don’t have oleophobic coatings cause it makes them almost impossible to clean. I have never seen a clean MacBook screen anywhere out in the wild. Water and micro fiber just pushes the oils around but does not clean it.

[@definingslawek4731]

The only problem is a decent storage/ram spec costs 5 grand and a minimum viable one for creative tasks is 3000.

[@andyH_England]

If it is your business and makes you money, then you must spend what you have to. The faster times mean that if you are busy, you can recover the extra cost in no time.

[@definingslawek4731]

@@andyH_England It is my business but I’m currently exploring windows options seeing as a $5000 MacBook spec can be had for 2000ish in windows laptop land. Won’t be the same battery life but oh well. Might also just do new desktop pc plus maybe a base spec MacBook Air or maybe an energy efficient windows laptop with a better screen than the air. The thing with overpaying more than 2x is that you then hope it to last you 4 years at least but if you only paid 2k in windows you can upgrade again to top spec in 2 years time and still have spent less while being far ahead in performance.

[@andyH_England]

@@definingslawek4731 That is all true. But for many Mac users they prefer macOS so that option is not on the agenda. That is why Macs only has 9% of the market share, and never breach the natural monopoly Windows has, and is why if Apple reduced their prices, the chances are significant that it would have little positive impact on demand but would defiantly impact negatively on revenue and therefore profits. Apple has to charge high and go premium. Otherwise, it would not be worth it, and they would close that business.

[@burprobrox9134]

I stopped buying macbook pros about 10 years back because of their ram and storage bullshit. Thinkpads are about as good hardware wise, and windows cleans up ok. Plus way less bullshit to get games going.

[@TheLemps2012]

What a fantastic video. Thank you! KZbin is my main media consumption and your entire setup is stellar, tone, vocabulary, personality and details. Subbed. Good vibes my guy.

[@leedaq7767]

i'm in the market to replace my old PC, was considering MAC but passed it due to upgrade availability

[@geraldwesley]

your production is just top notch

[@titanfall_yt2476]

Is Microsoft surface laptop a good laptop for high school students?

[@ynie1]

To be honest, this review was uninformative. For most of it, it compared the form factor differences rather than chipset. Why didn’t you all review the 16 M1 vs 16 M3? To be honest, I don’t know who is the target consumer for a top tier 14 M3 Max. Would they just get the 16 anyways?

[@adriftatlas]

Getting a 14" Max is a waste as it really needs the thermal headroom and extra battery capacity of the 16". Much more cost effective to get a 14" Pro or 16" Max.

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@adriftatlasThe M3 Pro is limited to 2 external displays. I would need the M3 Max because I use 3 external displays. Yes, I do use them. No, I don't use a Mac.

[@erichfunke4219]

Great review. SImple, rational, and based on experience. (And you opened my eyes about what to shop for. I was FREAKING out about stupid-spending a stupid-amount of money on a stupidly expensive laptop)

[@MarbsMusic]

I have a M1 Pro 16" I got on release day and just can't find a reason to upgrade. I agree, it was almost too good!

[@flamingburritto]

Will you guys make a roundup video for 360 mm aios?

[@johnh1353]

Software engineer and used to buy the new intel macbook pro at every iteration ... For work I use an M1 pro and haven't purchased another macbook since (and not for the reasons you think)... The aarch64 arch has really delegated most of my work to be done VIA a bastion server as 95% of my targets are still x86 ... plus the lack luster virtualization and painfully slow qemu docker emulation have really just increased my enthusiasm for desktop workstations again.

[@alvinamana1459]

like you said smaller screens are it. For eyes for working etc I had a lenovo think pad twist which was 14 inch screen and it was cool at first being super portable etc but its just to small. I went from that to a lenovo idea pad y700 and I knew I never need to go back to a 14 inch screen again. Its really not worth it unless you just prefer smaller screens but if you aren't use to them its just a headache lol. 15inch to 16 is a sweet spot for me and above that are for people who move around alot and need a desktop replacement in my opinion.

[@reganmian]

My M1 has served me well in graduate school where I use it for data analysis and software development. I've never heard the fan come on and honestly feel that I should've gone for the Air. iPad has been an incredible tool as well. No rush to upgrade, especially after seeing this. Likely to just retire my MacBook Pro as a casual personal computer once I graduate

[@omgnowairly]

The pandemic and new generation boosted sales. I expected it to cool.

[@Sinier940n]

I would like to see the Mac OS video. There are so many problems when using it on a desktop machine.

[@meal_team_six]

Thank you for the review! But I just can't seem to get past macs as very expensive disposable commodities with limited lifespans due to lack of user reparability and user upgradeability. I'll stick with my ThinkPad. Love the channel!! Keep up the good work!

[@andyH_England]

My M1 MB Pro 13 is 3.5 years old and outlasted several, admittedly a while back, Windows laptops. I still have my previous MB Pro 15, which is nearly eight years old. I have had no longevity issues and do not upgrade as I buy what I need when new.

[@Drew1218s]

Im sticking with my base m1 MacBook Air for now. It’s still so fast and handles my graphic deign work very well. M4 chip are where the serious efficiency gains should be with the new N3E process node. N3B suffers from lower yields and Apple has to sacrifice efficiency tolerances with m3 and a17 pro chips to get more of them.

[@andyH_England]

Yes, version one of 3nm has had many issues, including TSMC's delay. Apple could not wait any longer as they needed to get it out there to test it in the wild for version 2 improvements and optimisations. A work in progress, and although the M3 is still up there with the best chips, I agree the N3E or N3P will be the quantifiable 3nm chips.

[@tttyyy949]

I have no idea how do you get that high battery time on 4k youtube video on 14'. I have pro version and i get about 6-7 h 1080

[@firstspar]

have the screen brightness to about half way or less.

[@tttyyy949]

@@firstspar i have done that and the result is from 50 percent brightness

[@firstspar]

@@tttyyy949 then you must have something else that is taking up power. Installed coconut battery and use the activity monitor to look at what processes are consuming energy.

[@alexeiz]

2:20 If the screen is too small for you, why can't you hide the dock?

[@1____-____1]

I always hide the dock to reclaim that vertical space.

[@OperationNonsense]

as good as the 16" is when compared to the 14", most people simply cannot work with the massive size and weight for a laptop. laptop by definition is a tool you take on the go, it's a compromise you use when you are traveling. when you are at home/office, we all have a much more powerful desktop work station/mac studio, so who needs a big and heavy 16" which sucks while traveling, and sucks when you are at home/office?

[@spetz911]

I think this review is a bit misleading: you don’t mention that it 14 inch in the title, and AFAIK speakers are not the same for 14in M1 Pro and M3 pro. Overall, it sounds like you switched from a bicycle to a motorcycle and saying one is superior.

[@Indra_Ninja]

Still doesn't make sense to bring up the size comparison in the review regardless. What are we expecting here going to a smaller size? More spacious 🤣

[@alvinamana1459]

its not mis leading what you said is just irrelevant lol. The speakers don't make any type of difference in performance just the speakers and nobody wasting this type of money on a macbook and gonna be that worried about the speakers lol.

[@spetz911]

@@alvinamana1459 not wasting, but rather investing. 13 air M2 is just brilliant!

[@Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy]

You clearly didn't watch the entire video / weren't paying attention. He points that out. Useless comment.

[@definingslawek4731]

8:40 in the custom keyboard community there are 300 dollar keycap sets which also quickly develop shine from use. Can you name a single laptop that has a backlit keyboard which somehow avoids this issue? I don't see why it's unacceptable on mac when they use industry standard materials / process for the keycaps. (It's clear ABS with black paint on it, like every other laptop keyboard today)

[@ZAcharyIndy]

And don't forget the current hardware bugs in M series CPU that are unfixable.

[@God_of_Hellfire]

Yes, to a video on the nuances!

[@BRUCEPPXBB360]

nice chill music

[@_Chris390]

Max chip in a 14" body - "And that is why you fail". Has been well-publicised since the M1 Pro and Max laptops (MaxTech tests etc) that the 14" Max is warmer, louder, and slower than the 16" Max. Get a Pro chip for the 14", or the Max for the 16". Pretty simple really. For best battery life get the M3 Pro 16". Shiny keycaps - Do you ever clean the keyboard? Because 99% of people never do. I just get an antibacterial wet wipe (Clinell), and lightly wipe the keyboard, trackpad, and surrounding areas, about once every 2 weeks.

[@misx80]

fun fact: keyboards usually have more bacteria on them than a toilet seat

[@handlemonium]

Battery life is yet again the deal breaker right after price. I upgraded the battery on my dad's ThinkPad T16 over Christmas from 53Wh to an 86Wh boosting runtimes over 60% *from 8-11 hours* to *13-18 hours.* Well worth the $60 investment 👌

[@andyH_England]

The T16 is an ultrabook running a U series chip with no dGPU so the MB Pro 14 M3 Max is not a comparable laptop as its performance is many times better.

[@Reza1984_]

It is not an "investment" its a depreciating asset, it will lose its value in half in just two years.

[@Omega-EP]

Song name at approx. 2:00???

[@chuck_norris]

8:37 they are probably made out of ABS Plastic. ABS naturally shines over time wich is normal and cant really be avoided.

[@ahmednofal3865]

thanks

[@high-captainofangbandgothm3926]

Apple sheep will be in a demolition man museum one day Look forward to that hilarious spectacle

[@o0ctav]

yea ok but you cant find M1 or M2 anymore on most shops :) so you are kinda forced to buy an M3 if you want a new laptop and not an used one.

[@basharalloush4618]

i just bought the m1 pro macbook pro 16 . the battery life is INSANE !

[@nidalspam509]

welcome to the club. Even after a few years later, the windows pc side of the space still hasn't fully caught up yet. I'd love to go back at some point in the future.

[@basharalloush4618]

@@nidalspam509 i have been Windows user since 2006, but Windows Laptops can't keep up with the Macbooks in terms of battery life. That's why i decide to switch. However if the Macbooks still use Intel Processors i would NEVER switch tbh

[@PhillipLearnTeach]

If they make 16gb memory or 32 gb cheaper I will buy not 1 but maybe even 2 or recommend it to my dept of 5000+ people

[@Cofe82]

Funny enough for me: I traded in my personal 14in M1 Pro for the 14in M3 Pro and have better battery life on the new laptop. But I also traded in my work 16in M1 Pro for a 14in M1 Pro for the portability.

[@LucaAccorsi1986]

Thanks for the review but I'm tired of hearing praise for a company that constantly applies unfair practices towards its customers

[@enshongmiranda]

The 14c M3 Max is the best processor for the 14" MacBook Pro. Going for the higher Max doesn't make sense because of the body can't take the heat.

[@karrde593]

The biggest take away from this video is there are certainly battery impacts of the newer chips (flashbacks to the iphone 5 battery drop from the 4's) and the os it shipped with is great, lets be based and not listen to the press upgrade and like it regardless kids as grown ups. Yeah i agree.

[@MajorPickleSwag]

Are you sure your Mac was that much? My M3 Max 1TB SSD 16 inch was about $3400 USD

[@andyH_England]

His was the maxed out version.

[@wyntje83]

it's funny that we're are so used to companies giving us piecemeal upgrades as a marketing strategy that when they give us too much we're like oh, I actually don't need to buy the new one next year, how weird, something must be wrong.

[@erwickdsouza]

Please do a MacOS vs WIndows video for 2024

[@timwong6818]

Still cannot get through the part that a windows laptop can have 96GB of ram, much powerful GPU and CPU, despite only requiring half the price. OSX is not that appealing to me. It's just a ubuntu+ to me with maybe better package management and user interface. Probably only make sense to media people.

[@arcane3877]

Performance looks stunning, but the price and cost to get the higher specs is just outright absurd. Nobody in their right mind would pay for egregious prices like that

[@somnia3423]

8gb shared ram is insane lol

[@andyH_England]

The base 8GB model is for those that want to save money or cannot afford 16GB/512GB. It is better to have that option than not. Even a 16GB/512GB MB AIr M3 is cheaper than many premium Windows ultrabooks, for example, the XPS 14, and sadly for XPS fans, the cheapest with the latest Core Ultra is £1500, compared to the cheapest M3 MB Air of £1100. A more inexpensive option is great for consumers, and you should not complain as you can still buy higher configurations.

[@somnia3423]

@@andyH_England 8gb should not be an option in 2024, phones have more ram. Ram is so cheap they should put 16gb as the minimum

[@definingslawek4731]

@@andyH_England 512gb is also insane. 1tb is a tiny hard drive today. Let alone that you can’t ever change it. Also dell xps is not a good line of laptops.

[@andyH_England]

@@definingslawek4731 That is the issue. Your use is your use, and you are not everyone. I use about 45GB, and both my parents use even less. Would it be highly anti-environment if we had to buy more storage than we need because some people need more?

[@megatronusv2215]

​@@definingslawek4731why do you think Dell xps isn't great?

[@Z-S-H]

Mac needs to price their products more competitively for the consumer market if they want to sell more units instead of catering to just commercial spaces and the economicly well off compared to the masses

[@nielderfp]

Apple's mission is powered by greed.

[@andyH_England]

That is the primary aim of all businesses as they work for their shareholders, who demand better and better returns on capital.

[@markusmayer6073]

What you are telling us is that you did the wrong decision in sense of the size. If you have long session without an external monitor then you should never take something smaller than 16". All other things are related to your choice. Sell it an oder a 16" one.

[@TheHipClip]

For all the people writing upgrades to Ram and SSDs should cost less, yes they should. BUT, Apple solders their RAM and SSDs to the Motherboard, so what you're buying isn't someone dropping in one RAM stick or screwing in an SSD but a different motherboard. They could probably design it cheaper and easier to repair but we're talking about Apple!

[@VaracolacidVesci]

Well 7k laptop build quality is hard to archive with for a 3k one

[@rare6499]

The build quality of all Mac pro’s is essentially the same

[@WhyteLis21]

Now, the real question for these Apple M series is are they going to become a dimishing return at some point for us consumers? Lol.

[@MrDucatiV4]

Apple over charge heavily for minor upgrades to their products! A M1 pro MacBook will last 5+years easily. I'm an engineer and my 16" M1 Pro easily handles all my work without issues. I will wait for the the M4 MacBook pro release.

[@ivocus]

wish i saw this before i spent 3k on a 14' m3

[@haxus666]

i guess you would have bought this machine instead yours 😀

[@stephenkbolton]

I dont know how people deal with a 14". No screen real estate and for me are so uncomfortable in the lap.

[@rosegrace110]

I also think it should support all windows games and application

[@1____-____1]

4 months isn't long-term. It's just enough time to give a solid initial review.

[@georged822]

My question is why would any true Resolve professional not build a dual 4090 rig for that $$.

Apple experienced 30% drop in sales just because M1 family was just soo good! Thats why. You have to see the full picture, not just take out things out of context

[@meal_team_six]

facts

[@racerex340]

I'm also of the opinion that Apple just isn't offering enough value generationally to drive people to upgrade. RAM and SSD uplift pricing that is beyond extortion and CPU / GPU changes that make it pretty apparent that they're trying to squeeze even more gross profit out of each generation leaves little incentive for those already on Apple Silicon to upgrade, even jumping two generations.

[@Lotus_on_YT]

This is what he says ten seconds after?

[@randomyoutubeusername4985]

He says that seconds later.

[@andyH_England]

Yes, Apple only has a 9-10% market share, so with a high percentage of upgrading to the M1, there will be fewer people to upgrade in subsequent years. It is basic economics when a new product is launched. Apple is using this time to fine-tune their model line-up to prepare it for the future once normal cycles are returned. I am sure people band this 30% around to justify their anti-Apple agenda rather than taking 30 seconds to think of the real reason.

[@ten-ub4xd]

Everyone talking about how pricey this is, if you do the research for the same spec from windows you also will be paying the same, let's jus hope max release the M4 chip soon, then we can buy the M3 Max refurbished 😏

[@navixaxa5023]

Agreed. I absolutely love my M1 Pro 14' MBP. Tho if Apple stops charging such ludicrious, actually, outright atrocious and outrageous prices for RAM and SSD upgrades, people might buy more Macs. Sub $800-$900 Windows Laptops offer 16GB/512GB combos. Also, I don't understand 1 thing. Why in the fuck does Apple stop giving Macs newer MacOS after 5 years, whilst Windows laptops can use the latest versions of Windows. I see people using almost 7-8 years old XPS' with latest Windows 11 Build. And here $7000 Macs will become obsolete after 5 years.

[@brxrmr]

Sorry but this is video doesn't make sense. Most of the points are really just because of the size difference: battery would obviously be better on a larger chassis; thermals would be worse for a 14" laptop with a powerful chip, a 16" laptop would of course have a bigger screen. It's not a good comparison.

[@alihosseini8797]

16 inch is the one to go. anything smaller is too small.