Apple REVEALS Secret to Lossless AirPods Support

[@davepounds8924]

You’re one of the few tech channels that have the guts to criticize Apple if you don’t agree with something that they do I respect your opinions because of that Don’t change!!!

[@JustinGone]

He literally still buys everything. It’s all for clicks

[@davepounds8924]

@@JustinGone That could be true!! I haven’t watched him long enough so he might be doing it for views

[@sebastianvazquez9015]

@@JustinGoneyou understand this man has sold half his ecosystem and daily drives an iPhone 11 and continues to advocate learning to live with less tech…? Hello, have you watched any of videos?

[@eomoran]

Basically every tech channel criticises apple if they disagree with what they do.

[@James-616]

You obviously don’t watch a lot of tech KZbinrs then, most of them heavily criticise Apple lmao

[@moehussein3598]

Looks like this was filmed on iPhone 15. Colors are a bit warm

[@Theoneandonlyearthhuman]

Lmao

[@donyoung333]

You’re getting me excited for AirPods Max - especially if they add waterproofing, USB-C and latest H2 Chip

[@mrCastrinho_]

They could change the name to AirPods ultra, I think it makes more sense

[@everytimeifall]

@@mrCastrinho_they use ultra as super durable, which ultra watches are. But the AirPods Max are aluminium, and certainly not for working out / swimming / running

[@davidv7403]

I’m glad you made this video. I was always wondering how we were supposed to take advantage of lossless audio on Apple Music.

[@samuell.siskind]

Was this shot on your iPhone 15? Looks solid… obviously not as good as your dedicated camera. What bothers me is the over sharpening. Depth of field isn’t a big deal when that close to a wall. Knowing you, this could all be a test, shot on your 11 😂

[@techinrl9869]

I saw the interview where the Apple exec explained why only the AirPods Pro 2 USB-C could do it. They did add a 5GHz radio to the AirPods but did not explain the protocol. It’s highly unlikely it’s using WiFi, but rather a direct AirPods to Vision Pro connection for the ultra-low latency required. Why they didn’t put it into the iPhone 15’s is anyone’s guess, but it’s a niche enough feature (few can hear the difference) that I doubt they did it for marketing reasons, seeing as they didn’t bother to cover it at the iPhone event.

[@jasonhe54]

It’s not WiFi. It’s in a similar range, but not the same as WiFi Frequencies.

[@kwadwothestan]

My guess is they’ll add the capability to the iPhone 16 so people buy that one lol

[@bryanmontero]

Filmed on Iphone 15?

[@katrinabryce]

We’ve had 5gHz WiFi since WiFi 4 in 2008. The first iPhone to support it was the iPhone 5 in 2012.

[@jaysmokin]

5g was bad on WiFi back then. Now it’s more better and has more range than before. I use it everyday now

[@Marngel]

It’s clear that you used the iPhone 15 to film this, but it still kind of surprises me how good the video quality is. Maybe it could be due to the fact that you filmed with an iPhone SE2 for some of your videos earlier this year, and my expectations for camera quality has gone down at the point lol

[@BaconFaceMcGee]

Wouldn’t Bluetooth using 5Ghz cause interference or receive interference with other devices such as WiFi routers?

[@Blueyzachary]

Imo lossless is just the easier way for them to do it with the lowest possible latency since it will be right next to the transmitter in the vision pro (cuz it can be encoding and decoding PCM data or whatever pretty much real time.)

[@TheThaiLife]

For amazing headphones with lossless features already built in and even better sound quality with infinite battery life, buy Apple's own $20 wired Earpods. I keep them on hand, initially to use while driving my motorcycle. This way if one pod falls out of my ear, I'm not losing an expensive AirPod to the road. But even outside of that, I use them more than I would have expected. Even though I have Airpods 1 and 2 and some studio quality AudioTechnica over-ear headphones, I use my Earpods a lot. I believe that earpods, especially the USB-C version are the best value Apple product out there.

[@eomoran]

Their wired EarPods suck. What’s the point of losssless audio if they bleed like a virgin on her marriage night

[@TheThaiLife]

I kind of thought I was used to how weird comments could get on KZbin but you proved to me, nope. Your level of disturbing and weird stands out. @@eomoran

[@ryoji4200]

I would be mega disappointed if they keep this as an exclusive feature of vision pro. Something tells me it won’t and will launch it with headset yet will be available with iPhones. But I don’t know, the opposite would be expected since lossless audio has been absent for so long.

[@bakokat6982]

Old school here! The sad fact is using “ old school” headphones.. ie..good Sony, headphones while listening to pristine LPs or better yet a high grade CD through high end stereo with a Wolfson DAC will give you as close to live as you can get. Yes Apple has made great strides in minimizing the size of listening to great sound, but miniature size will,compromise the true sound. You mileage may vary…. I still love the strides Apple has made to all their products, yes I am an Apple fan! 😁

[@youbetyoursweetBippyiidid]

at this point idk if were gonna get the gen 3 apple airpods pro. i think i might just go ahead and get the gen 2 pros. thoughts? should i wait?

[@abubakrakram6208]

Damn, and right as a sound incident left my left ear’s hearing damaged (my right was already damaged), killing my desire to listen to music. Sad times…

[@rocurs165]

This will obviously be an iphone 16 pro feature

[@chungang7037]

As an audiophile I expected more from Apple. They have nearly infinite research and development, and if they really wanted to they could design a headphone that is high tech [ANC and with a lossless codec] with driver technology to knock the socks off of even audiophiles. As it stands, they could get lossless signals but none of their headphones/earphones will be able to utilize it, a wired 80 dollar headphone will still sound better.

[@MMaster1908]

5ghz is the frequency. It is true that 5ghz can not reach as far as 2.4 ghz with the same power. (This is bcs the wavelengths are shorter). But the range is very dependent on the power supplied to the antenna. I think the battery life of the airpods pro would be too short if the range is extended. And I think thats why it can only work with vision pro.

[@handihasan8823]

I mean I would be okay for a little latency if I can enable lossless on airpods pro 2 lighting port version (is this right?) I mean lossless playback is already a feature on music app so why not implemented it for just a little latency, and you can disable it if you need it for gaming or watching movies...

[@Gessle3]

Sony supports wireless NC + High-Res-Audio tho 🎧

[@nathan_anotherunner]

New camera/phone for recording this video? Looks different. Either way, great job!

[@full_metal2452]

My AirPods Pro 2 (lightning) suck after updates! Sounds like music from muffled tin can

[@RiqMoran]

I know everyone is gonna say "aVg cOnsUMeR cant tell the difference" too, but i feel that there has to be a tangible difference if they went through all the effort not just to make it possible but to make it exclusive to the vision pro. Very excited for what the apple audio engineers cook up next.

[@RossMKF1]

I think they mainly did it for latency as vr latency is that much harder

[@johnny112115]

1:25 when the quiet part is said out loud 😂😂😂

[@crispyjokingtuna1495]

I could see apple waiting to put the h2 chip in the 16 so that they have something to market for it

[@TheArpage]

A simple firmware update could unlock AirPlay on the older AirPods Pro, making them lossless compatible. Shame Apple doesn’t go this route.

[@TailosiveTech]

They don’t have the modems to do airplay over WiFi

[@TheArpage]

@@TailosiveTech Who said anything about WiFi 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXOtnmSVeNmrnZIsi=Vz3QRRl9rWFS-iTz

[@TheArpage]

@@TailosiveTech And when the H1 chip does not have modem capability, the H2 chip should have it at least.

[@lorefx]

Did you record this video with the iPhone 15? I prefer how your previous videos looked. It looks too oversharpened

[@AlexAparicio]

He pretty much said the iPhone can do lossless. The problem is that the iPhone uses that spectrum of 5g for other things. He didn’t say what those other things were but I’m going to guess it’s the AirPlay, Apple Watch, HomeKit or airdrop. The iPhone needs to do all these things while listening to music. Not enough bandwidth

[@paulswydam5064]

Getting really good at Mimicking Tims voice. Especially the word pro😂

[@FernandoAES]

I'm curious about the impact on battery. No way you would get the same battery, especially if the devices are not super close and they need to power up the signal.

[@duckmeee2991]

Dang this is what I live for on the internet, thx a lot

[@unmeitobaku4741]

Great video I laughed when you said smart strap/bra 😂

[@ajohny8954]

It’s arrow emoji thumbnail time for this channel? Damn

[@TailosiveTech]

You new here? I’ve done this dozens of times

[@ajohny8954]

@@TailosiveTech I'm an infrequent guest

[@TheAnthonyLJ]

New lighting? Looks good!

[@Sebastian198910]

The issue here is technical. If the lossless requires such a high bandwidth, that it requires 5GHz, it won’t work reliable on a iPhone. With the phone in your pocket, the AirPods in your ears while moving outside, you could reduce the connection on 5GHz by a lot. You can even test this in your home by your phone alone. Your phone will drop out of 5GHz WiFi and goes on 2.4GHz if you start running when in your pocket pretty fast. On the vision it is so close that it may work in this case as well but I guess nobody will run around with the vision anyway. For the iPhone they would need to increase the antenna size and the power to it for it to work even while running on a 1m+ distance on your body.

[@chezikmusic]

My guess is it’s all for stretching out quarterly earnings. They don’t need a boost in Q4 as the iPhone will lead this quarter along with new iPads and hopefully macs. Q1 2024 is always slow. They will need a boost from Vision Pro, new iPhone color, and of course AirPods because of the lossless feature with Vision Pro. iPhone 16 will absolutely support lossless.

[@unmagicalmushroom]

the tim cook impersonation 😂

[@anshumansaini9458]

Much better quality now in 4K

[@gabe6959]

I wonder if I can do lossless with the iPhone 15 Pro Max to the AirPods Max? USB-C to Lightning adapter?

[@katrinabryce]

I thing you need a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter and the 3.5mm to lightning cable, not adapter, they work in the opposite direction.

[@harvey.c]

Filmed on iPhone 15?

[@manpreetwired]

Tim's mimicry is on point😂

[@kristianolsenlarsen]

It's such an Apple blast from the past move. " *Oh, so you're stinking rich and likely already have a lighting ecosystem? AND you're interested in our upcoming $3500 Pilot Goggles?! Welp, what's another $200 or so on top of for your lossless audio? You know, so you get the correct charging port and stuff🤷* "

[@willbeam24]

Sennheiser has delivered lossless audio with no wire. Latest gen of momentum 4 and momentum 3 tw.

[@joelambert7277]

Filmed on the iPhone 15

[@RiqMoran]

The silver lining is that we KNOW apple can do it. It's just a matter of when they choose to. Airpods Max 2? iphone Ultra? Lossless is definitely happening we just dont know when.

[@josevilabella]

Videos like this might force Apple to open up the capability via firmware update. Keep it up!

[@acwesty]

I guess they’re keeping the same name because there isn’t enough changes to market it as a new device. They didn’t really do much to the H2 chip at all outside of a minor tweak that most people wouldn’t notice (though I do). They didn’t change anything with the technology itself truly: nothing new with the audio system (outside of updating the chip to a higher frequency), no new design, no new big features (not qualifying lossless audio), etc. It’s honestly just a press release product. I think they’re saving the 3rd generation name for something big. This seems to just be adding compatibility for the Vision Pro and I imagine that Apple is about to discontinue the lightning case variant of the AirPods Pro 2 and are just finishing the production contracts they’re obligated to and the remaining stock they have.

[@anuarbin]

Apple vision pro will always be near earpod, while people will move around when using their earpod with the phone. The experience will be worse. Maybe in future when they can do some thing like aptx adaptive then it will coming to iphone.

[@thecolorofmysould]

Apple is software limiting many features, for instance I don't see a reason for the iphone 14 pro not to get all the camera features of the iphone 15 series. The same way I don't see why the iphone 13 pro couldn't get the camera updates of the regular 14, same processors and main cameras.

[@JakeSDN]

Qualcomm and Sony have lossless bluetooth codecs, I don’t know why you would say no one else has done it.

[@BryanHaywood]

They really need to redesign AirPods Max with vision pro in mind. The current design wouldn’t even fit based on where the ear cups and band land at the moment.

[@TenshiR]

That Tim Apple impression is a little TOO perfect. I had to do a double take to make sure it wasnt a voice over🤔

[@closeben]

I think next year they will introuduce new MacBooks and AirPods and will focus on how the lossless audio is also useful for things like video editing.

[@RiqMoran]

I saw that interview and when they dropped the 5gHz bomb, i was so disappointed that theres seemingly nothing stopping them from bringing this to iphone. They just chose not to. But what else do you expect from apple...

[@Fastfwd01]

Get the Apple Dongle and a pair of the remarkable offerings in the low budget wired headphone market (Chi-Fi?) and enjoy Apple Lossless for under $100... Maybe under $50 these days frankly idk.

[@jaylove5555]

The next time you come home Timmy Apple is going to be sitting in your Lay-Z-Boy drinking your best scotch. We all know what comes next.

[@MikeHightower1]

Lol i renamed them airpods pro 2.2 in my phone 😂

[@ginopartosetiko9292]

Shouldn't the airpods pro 2 from last year also play losless audio with just an firmware update? They both have the same H2 chip🤦🏻‍♂️

[@TailosiveTech]

This video is literally about the fact that it isn’t the same H2 chip. The new one support 5Ghz and the old one doesn’t

[@sly2792004]

You can’t even charge in lightning case

[@ginopartosetiko9292]

@@TailosiveTech apple should've called it H3 chip than

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

apple can say(sorry I meant lie like they have done in the past😉) that they are testing lossless audio for IPhone so people will buy them and then (strategically a month or so before the vision pro) say it can’t happen for iPhone because (say a classic apple excuse) buttt it will work with vision pro (because of how close it is to the EarPods or some other kind of excuse…)😂😂😂

[@arodbas]

Most people can’t tell the difference between lossless and lossy, I really don’t understand why this is still a topic

[@artfartzy]

So it only works with vision pro and not with music sigh

[@TailosiveTech]

It works on music if played from visionPro

[@artfartzy]

@@TailosiveTech Yes but still have to be through vision pro, I want it through music without vision pro.

[@aphoa]

The 300$ HomePod isn't as popular, but the AirPods Max despite being a bit expensive are extremely popular. I see them everywhere, probably just as much as AirPods Pro now.. I don't think Apple would discontinue the Max lol.

[@pfabiszewski]

WiFi 5 is already capable of transmitting over 5GHz (not to mention WiFi 6)

[@cjc363636]

Sleep mask as Vision Pro prop.... 👍👍

[@c.daubz.5386]

I believe that new airpods pro should of been 3rd version and had lossless connection to all pro iphone ipad and mac devices

[@reubendeleon-ji6up]

5GHz is just a frequency. The protocol matters, but can be changed for different engineering decisions. For example, how many Vision Pros are going to be in the same room? Maybe we don’t need as much collision avoidance. What if they haven’t released it because the FCC hasn’t licensed it yet? Said change above seems reasonable, but would be an interference-nightmare on a subway or office.

[@daniaaal]

Actually, a better way to get people to buy the latest Airpods Pro 2... is to call it Airpods Pro 3. Otherwise, why would anyone who owns an existing Airpods Pro 2 without knowing about the new features buy the latest version aside from USB-C? And if Apple wants users to pair the upcoming Apple Vision Pro with the latest Airpods Pros, wouldn't it be a better idea to release the latest AirPods Pro alongside Apple Vision Pro?

[@wazitSomethingISaid]

watching this video whilst wearing the new airpods pros with USB-C :)

[@ebubeawachie]

I feel sad that you didn’t mention that the Apple wired EarPods now support lossless audio. Would have been an important perspective to the conversation in this video.

[@TailosiveTech]

I guess lossless wired doesn’t mean much imo cause it’s been around forever

[@trevorng5015]

filmed on 11?

[@larsandersen9134]

I don’t understand Apple when they make AirPods Pro 2 lossless capable because the earphones are doing so much computational audio that there’s not much left of the original sound for the user to enjoy. Does Apple even know why audiophiles wants lossless audio? I have my doubts. They make lossless sound lossy this way. So maybe its a marketing gimmick just like using Dolby Atmos for music when it's made for movies.

[@ZakBoxer]

Please just make an actual hard case for AirPods Max that charges them

[@Gameboyreaper]

Then just add the lossless to AirPod max and call it day. Please make them water and dust resistant too

[@quarterarcade8825]

Ugg. I’m gonna keep it 100% … Apple has annoyed me with their handling of this. But also think you’re using bad technical and audio analysis. 1) Bluetooth chips (receivers and broadcast) must have a chip that by design supports lossless audio. Wifi uses a different chipset and can’t be substituted in just because it can use the same frequency. 2) Use the basic wired Apple headphones. The only official way to get losses currently and have substantially better audio quality than airpods w. the same size / spec drivers (older actually). All the proof you need the audio folks you’re referencing are wrong. It’s SO much better.

[@captainrag]

Earpods with usbc now does lossless so for $19 iPhone user could just use that in the meantime.

[@billx4266]

2,4 5 ghz bands.... Are you talking about wifi then?

[@Gustavo-d7l]

i want airpods ultra

[@PerpetualPreponderer]

Hmm for the skits at the start I think you should replace Tim with a bunch of folks from the board of directors at apple. They're the ones secretly running the show and calling the shots, especially for all the nickel and diming and shilling.

[@Story_Teller_Everyone]

Like lossless really matters on those crummy earbuds. The audio is so bad would need to fix that before bothering with lossless. Now over the ears is different story, and or transmitting to external speaker, but ear buds... who cares.

[@himynameisryan]

this video is shot on a phone i think

[@ReliableInebriationOutlet]

What happened to your camera man super saturated this video

[@jaxonsmith3633]

Probably filming with the iPhone 15

[@CannedLaughter00]

This whole USBc thing seams to be a bit of a forced issue with Apple and I guess they don't have all their ducks in a row. But 5GHz is probably not a real solution. Audio geos trough Bluetooth and it doesn't even use the Low Energy standard. That is something the Bluetooth Consortium is working on. So to go over a WiFi stadium is just way to power hungry. Qualcom seams to have a patent for lossless audio over bluetooth. But it's not in any device yet and we know how much Apple loves Qualcom 😅

[@Fieldoftheatres]

You should just stay Tim Cook

[@ronaldspada489]

Could they have at least called it AirPods Pro 2.5 or AirPods to Pro S or something other than USB C. That’s why you can’t just buy the case.

[@Rifumo]

Not sure if you watched the full interview on Brian Tong’s channel but Ron said a few things. He described the H2 chip as a dedicated “Bluetooth audio” chip and that the Bluetooth chip in iPhone is designed to do more than just audio. I wish Brian had asked more follow-up questions but based on this response I think we can infer a few things. For one thing, it’s not uncommon for Apple to trial something new on a small(er) product category before expanding to iPhone. We see that with Apple Watch basically every year at this point. But more importantly, it’s clear there were different priorities with A17 Pro but that doesn’t mean things can’t or won’t change with A18 Pro. That is, once they learn they can reliably deliver lossless audio through this new Bluetooth protocol they’ve developed for Vision Pro and AirPods Pro, then they can scale it to other products lines like iPhone

[@NickSmalin]

You’ve lost weight homie !

[@POVwithRC]

They still call them second generation because they are still second generation. Find a new gripe 😊

[@KurdaHussein]

ze last WOW 😆

[@HunterRippon]

Beans

[@johnskap2004]

intro is awesome as always !!

[@TailosiveTech]

Thanks again!

[@nwosuebube2476]

​@@TailosiveTech and the "wow" is so good

[@skampster]

Sounding the best they can probably get? AirPod pros are basic really. Go buy a pair of Nura True Pro’s.

[@SpencerThayer]

Apple doesn't make audio product for their quality. Just convenience and hype.

[@xcalibur1011]

if apple successfully put the lossless audio in their beats headphones and not the airpods pro 2 or the airpods max 2 is a wait and see if they,ll test them for consumer to consider an upgrade to use with a future i phone (?) without having to buy an $3,500:00 vision pro headset just to listen to apple music etc,etc. i,ll wait until the i phone 16 or 17 ultra to see their tech and software evolve for my next upgrade. well done video tt.

[@Candyanthrax]

5G to my ears Quptheconspiracytheories