Apple's iPhone & iPad are about to change FOREVER.. 🤯

Apple is FINALLY working on adding Sideloading and Third-Party App Stores to the iPhone and iPad under the pressure of EU regulators and MORE. Let me explain what that means for you!
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[@MaxTechOfficial]

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[@julio6025]

I don't like it. As a consumer I think it will be a mess. The beauty of have all our apps in a single Store where you can explore if exist a new update it will be broke. After this many apps that we like will be out of the App Store, and it will be the start of the mess

[@RaghavVijay]

@@julio6025 Agreed!.

[@liquidmark5081]

I think it’s stupid. iOS is like a gated community on purpose. Being a gated community is one of the selling points of an iOS device. If they don’t want to live in a gated community, then they should move rather than change the door codes to let all the dregs and riff raff in. It’s not like Apple surprised ANYONE with it’s locked-down nature. I just don’t get buying something that does what you don’t like to begin with. Devs complain that “developing for android doesn’t make enough money… so let’s make iOS into android!”. Complete trash.

[@DanielFokker]

I think this is bad news. The real issue here is that Apple is charging far too much for what they provide. If the 30% (or 15% fee for smaller businesses) simply would be lowered for (in-)app purchases to say max 5 or 10%, most businesses would not bather.

[@liquidmark5081]

30% cut is not too much to ask for the 1’s and 0’s that developers are selling. 30% is the cut the distributors have taken for PRINTED media and PHYSICAL MERCHANDISE for ages and the actual manufacturers and publishers had to pay per-unit manufacturing and printing costs on top of that and paying that 30% fee was good enough for them. Developers have to pay for development of their software and advertisement (manufacturers and publishers did the same) but after paying those fees their overhead is minor. It’s not as severe as having to pay manufacturing or printing costs per unit and eating possible massive losses if they manufacture more than they can sell or eating losses if they manufacture too little. Selling software is a license to print money. If apple wants 30% of the money you just printed on their platform, selling an infinite number of 1’s and 0’s, then I don’t see what the issue is.

[@mikesmith1290]

I was a die hard Android user for over a decade. The appeal of sideloading apps wore off, and I just wanted a secure, reliable device. What worries me is a lot of Chiniezium products require their apps to work. If you have to use their App Store or side load an app, there’s no protections. This will also encourage piracy, making it much easier to install apps that “fell off the back of a truck”

[@poriam9534]

Exactly! I am in the same boat as you, I used to love android because of its ease of customization and at the same time what you say worried me. I chose the iphone to avoid that side of android. Now, with this news, I am worried apple's system will do what you say. I am of course crossing my fingers it doesn't.

[@soberanisfam1323]

Ios is boring and my fold 4 makes the iphone 14 pro max feel like an overpriced toy

[@oaax20]

Appstore is not completely safe but it is better than android but I haven’t hit malware apps in android even downloading from internet

[@wingkei1314]

Apple is gonna have one hell of a job in making the OS secure if this goes through. Being the most predominant phone and tablet line in the world, this is like an invitation card for hacks/malware/Trojans etc. I love being able to side-load apps and am all in for more choices, but security is one of the main selling points for apple and it’s what sets them apart. If they can’t secure their platforms when this happens then there’s not much difference anymore between them and android platforms when it comes to software.

[@ifrankenstein7455]

Sideloading has been supported on Mac an ipad for years yet they are still "secure"

[@andreigrigore9116]

@@ifrankenstein7455 that’s what you think. I saw a report at a presentation from bitdefender 2 years ago and the exploits and malwares are increasing at a faster rate for macOs than for windows. Yeah it’s still not the same number but at that rate it will be in the future.

[@ifrankenstein7455]

@@andreigrigore9116 Even if Macs have more malware and viruses than windows, people will always have the perception that Macs are more secure

[@VenoStuff]

Well, maybe 0.01% will side load apps, average consumer doesn’t care.

[@ahaimes6320]

True!

[@RaghavVijay]

Exactly-Most people want privacy and simplicity-This is not good news!.

[@mzaferyahsi]

Well I really liked Apple being a closed ecosystem since I had less to worry about my non-techie family members installing bloatware into their phones. Now I have to have an extra thing to manage…

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I WILL ALWAYS BE A JAILBREAKER. its the only way to make the iPhone great

[@mzaferyahsi]

Then why not just use Android?

[@krim7]

Yup, it is giving us Techies a whole new aspect of our family’s devices that we need to manage 😢

[@wingkei1314]

This. I used to have to fix all of my parents computer issues weekly. Ever since I got them an iPad/iPhone, I hardly needed to anymore. It was amazing that I only needed to teach them to use the home button and they somehow managed to figure out the rest. I don’t want to even think about all the issues after this get implemented when they will inevitably start installing apps via some ad their saw.

[@KARANRUPAREL29]

same here the closed ecosystem is so much secure nd better

[@homurak8]

I think this should be an optional thing that you can turn on in settings, some people don’t like this, but so many people want it too

[@winstonthompson6210]

App availability can become an issue, like it is on Mac, you still have to sideload to get a lot of apps on Mac, not only because of the commission but other App Store rules too

[@netsiteing]

I hope there will be strong requirements for any third party app-stores or side-loading apps, to ensure system stability and security is in place.

[@takoflame4948]

its gonna be a nightmare. u already hear on the news about kids and the elderly getting scammed.

[@ethangould213]

I really don't want this to happen. It would be so annoying. I really like apple the way it is

[@billherman5161]

Sideloading generates a real concern for security, but I don’t like Apple’s monopoly and over charging for their app services. Interesting days ahead.

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I WILL ALWAYS BE A JAILBREAKER. its the only way to make the iPhone great

[@tedanthonyuy8789]

As a developer. I think apple fees are terrible and I don’t like the idea of opening the phone to a third-party AppStore. This opens up vulnerabilities. The solution to solve this issue is to reduce the fee. I did jailbreak my phone. It slows down and causes a lot of issues. Wouldn't recommend jailbreaking your iPhone. Epic Games is the same as Apple they just want more money. All companies are the same. They are not really for the people. The best for the consumer is privacy and protection. You can sideload the app on any iPhone

[@markedwards4879]

Not great news for security. One of the best things about the tight grip is that there are just so many issues with android phones that are not an issue on iPhone.

[@pablovi77]

Well, it just make it’s less secure, I won’t use any single pay application on it now, or link my credit cards to it, or keep any financial records. Side loading and 3rd party apps are a security risk.

[@RaghavVijay]

Exactly!.Also majority of people don’t even care for it.Only 1% do so it’s not fair that we all suffer from security vulnerabilities because of the 1% who want to side-load apps.

[@Wiseguy1138]

I don't care for sideloading. I don't use a lot of apps on my phone but the ones I do I like that the Apple App Store offers a level of quality and security since apps on the store have to meet a certain level of both. I don't have to worry about malicious apps on the App Store. I am the generation that remembers how crappy games almost destroyed the video game industry and Nintendo's Seal of Quality reinstated trust in the industry and led to consumer confidence and an industry boom. I feel the Apple App Store is the phone version of this scenario.

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I WILL ALWAYS BE A JAILBREAKER. its the only way to make the iPhone great

[@cristibaluta]

@@gorgonismztruth1551 sidealoading doesn't mean jailbreaking. what exactly do you need it for?

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

@@cristibaluta side loading makes jail breaking easier cause we can load out code and hack the os far more easily LOL 😆

[@theepanvr]

As a avid Apple user, there is better reason to switch back to Android now.

[@shannonpage6741]

Elon wants a bigger slice of pie & Apple Crumble.

[@monstarboo4546]

Epic not the good company too.

[@bamber119]

If they do this then they should make it part of their warranty that if it borks their phone then it’s all on the owner.

[@yussif24]

When is side loading coming out?

[@ksouvenir5561]

I was waiting for years for that open appstore & USB-C combo to switch over to Apple Ecosystem 🙏.

[@next4978]

This is bad for apple and it’s users. Wrong move allowing third party app store. Instead they should allow percentages cut while buying from appstores, they can cut 30% to less based on case to case.

[@winmarkesconde5651]

i'm ok with it, it's not for everyone, if you don't want it just don't do anything in your phone. just go to appstore and live with it.

[@JustLearning]

I think Apple will do away with cable charging thus avoiding USB C mandates.

[@All-Hail-The-Queen]

SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE. all of you are missing the point. the more apple loses control over its own company the more Apple as a company loses its magic. SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE

[@themellowhost]

This might be the worst thing happening to iPhones which legit thrive due to their perceived sense of security in certain nations. It is seriously detrimental to innovation too because down the line tech will change and what they might standardise now may be the worst option in the future, times change. Third party apps stores such as Google Play and Samsung Stores are pretty good but since now people have access to anything, there's a lot that can go wrong. I'm not an apple sheep because forcing a company, especially a tech one where things change every year, to comply with what seems to be the current best is absurd.

[@jotabowser]

Not everyone likes this change. I really despise it. It means some developers or products will force us to download their own AppStore and separate app. Not only that but side loading also puts security and privacy at risk. So no thanks I definitely DONT want it

[@blasiankxng]

Allowing more than just the safari webkit is going to be crazy. Would finally be able to use something like firefox on ios and block ads on mobile, along with being able to watch youtube in resolutions higher than 720p !!

[@ahaimes6320]

That will not be the case as Apple will still restrict whatever they want to as they own the OS. Consumers only license iOS, though they own the hardware. So, that means even third-party app stores will have to comply with Apple's strict rules.

[@flamingkillermc2806]

@@ahaimes6320That is why my iphone 13 Pro Max is jailbroken on ios 15

[@winstonthompson6210]

You can already watch KZbin in higher than 720p

[@blasiankxng]

@@winstonthompson6210 on movile web browsers you can not, go ahead and give it a try yourself

[@blasiankxng]

@@ahaimes6320 while i agree with what you said, i still think it could be possible. most browsers rely on chromium so it’s up to google to push support for ios, but firefox is its own thing. really time would tell, this is all speculation and wishful thinking lol

[@cristibaluta]

What is the law saying? I'm from Europe and didn't hear about it.

[@peterwan816]

I will choose to not update my iOS software. Hope that they will allow us to buy iPhones with a closed system which’s boosts security.

[@sliceofmymind]

What is wrong with some of the commenters here. Some of you guys act like the gates of hell are opening up once third party app stores can be used. You can install apps on Macs that aren't on the Mac App Store (even though MacOS will fight you tooth and nail about installing unsigned apps), so what is the big deal? I am positive Apple will make the default experience as it is now and only those that agree to a crap ton of terms and conditions will be able to use third party app stores. You're going to be okay...just breathe.

[@cs2excaliburx]

The question has always been, is your device yours when you purchase it? Yes and Apple has been a bitch about it. Ask Steve Wozniak.

[@ahaimes6320]

Your device is yours, but the software and OS are definitely not yours. You license that, and by agreeing with the T&Cs, you accept it for what it is. If you do not like it, then buy something else.

[@conclave-mendoi]

Its a really bad thing and if its gonna be happened apple must denied the warranty for service in the case of virus. Its the company’s rights to do whatever they want with their own product. If you want 3rd party app stores or sideloading apps you can go somewhere else. No problem. But if you want security and certified apps you can stay with us. The freedom of choose whatever you want it can’t feet in a box with regulations. EU must be think it again! ( i live in Greece by the way, member of EU)

[@bashful228]

Apple Support will be up for 10x the support calls if this happens with side-loading. How they will cover that remains to be seen. I bet they'll have eyes all over it and if you've gone side-loading you can kiss your Apple phone support goodbye (which is some of the best product support in the industry and has been for decades).

[@VitiateTheImmortal]

Certainly gonna be fun! 😀 I’ll finally get the 14 PM in one month. And im in europe. Finally one thing Europe did good

[@jonivirolainen4751]

Third party appstores and sideloading has a potential for problems, mainly malware. You can look at what is going on in Android community for reference :) I switched over from Android to iOS ecosystem in early 2021 and personally I didn't much use other places to get apps than Play Store. This might be different in this case as Apple takes a pretty big slice of in-app sells, AFAIK. It was a bummer that I couldn't buy Kindle books straight from the Kindle app because Amazon didn't want to pay those fees. So that definitely plays the part. Sideloading on the other hand sounds really cool to me, especially if it really allows me to develop apps to my personal use. Currently I can develop PWAs but that's not the same thing (exactly). If this really will be a case, then I might pull the trigger and even buy a MacBook in order to be able to do so (as I am certain that Apple won't make it possible to develop iOS apps in Windows/Linux or iPad even after this). In any case this makes it all the more important for people to think before installing apps.

[@SWOBIZ]

I hope the EU doesn’t dictate a single phone OS, say Android. That’s what you could get if you welcome government mandates.

[@valdius85]

As always, the simple solution is overlooked - Apple could stop acting like an authoritarian regime and charge less money for work they are not actually doing. App owners should pay for the actual usage of the App Store - size of the package, the amounts of downloads etc. Then less would be free but more would be "fair".

[@mediatech1588]

Now file manager (real one) 🙏🏻 please apple

[@TsiriniainaRakotonirina]

Halleluijah! Praise to the Lord! As a new iPhone User from Samsung note for 9 years, this got me extremely frustrated. Now, this gives me hope

[@TIDUSnotinpokimotinpo]

To the sideloading naysayers The file structure of iOS is sandboxed so that high security can be maintained even if sideloading is enabled. Also, iOS16 added a developer mode, which I believe will become an option to install apps from an unknown source, as in android. Based on the above, I believe the iPhone will continue to be as secure as ever even if sideloading is enabled.

[@winstonthompson6210]

lol you’re clearly misinformed about how all this works, there is already malware on iPhone, we can’t rid of malware but malware on iPhone is almost nonexistent, even Apple will tell you this is due sideloading not being allowed. Isn’t macOS sandboxed too? Yet Apple claims the level of malware on Mac is unacceptable. Sideloading is regularly exploited on Mac. And Apple turns down many attempts to put malware on the App Store every year, and a few have escaped even Apple in the past. If sandboxing was enough to protect us Apple wouldn’t need to install an antivirus on its devices. And an antivirus can only protect against discovered viruses added to a database

[@afar5y]

Finally Roblox will increase its DevEx rate for developers!

[@Prod.BMAHStudios]

We don’t need a iPhone To side load or Have alternative App Store . Why does everyone wants the iPhone to be like Android? iPhones are meant To be secure and simple for everyone. I think it’s stupid everyone is requesting a stupid feature no one needs. And about the 30% it would be nice To lower down To maybe 15% To 10%.

[@MorbidGod391]

Apple Waller wont be supported in these stores…

[@MorbidGod391]

OR they would be required to support Apple Wallet. 😂

[@wlonsdale1]

LOL. The Supreme Court. Good luck with that! Apple isn't circumventing your rights

[@booga1988]

I just want kodi on the atv and not have to pay $99 a year for it

[@user-vl8sh7ih8c]

We have so much of our lives (data) on our phones. Phones are our wallets, keys, contain access to accounts, contacts, texts, email, social media, personal info, schedules and the list goes on and on. If given the choice, I will NOT go outside the Apple ecosystem to remain secure.

[@soberanisfam1323]

Let me guess you use at least one of these apps, tik tok facebook Instagram Google apps etc

[@user-vl8sh7ih8c]

I have one (locked down). I don't post.

[@dapedalist]

Part of Apples appeal is security, at least it is for me. It will take a lot to convince me that all this touted convenience will not come with more threats to that security. Personally, I’e never needed to or wanted to side load… and would I trust a competing AppStore? If IOS becomes just like android, then what is its point of difference - I think (hope) there is more to this story yet to come out.

[@dapedalist]

Fortnite? Don’t care! Simple as that. Similar for Musk, who single-handedly got me to drop a social network. Privacy and security of data, that I care about deeply… Some look at the proposed changes as convenience and opportunity, me, I consider human nature and history - I hope apple does the same. Pining for a Blackberry…

[@mygreeneggsandham]

I won't be using any random software from the internet on my phone or Mac. I switched to apple because both android and windows are so vulnerable. I just want a platform that is secure and where I can trust the apps I buy and use. Perhaps apples revenge could be to force them to get a digital signature on each app before it can be installed so that some level of trust can be maintained.

[@Leveetsta]

I was adverse to having other App stores until I had problems with double billing for In-App payments (buying Robucks in Roblox). On purchasing, I would be double billed within a second of approving my kid's in app purchases. I would later try to get a refund on the second purchase but these were often refused. I would then try a refund on the first purchase only to have that refund refused also. Anything I had lodged two refund requests would never be refunded, though others requested via a support call were actioned. Noting I have no ability to cross check either via the app or Apple's portal. The in app interface is incapable of requesting a second purchase within about 20 seconds of the first, nor can the approval process approve multiple purchase in one. Secondly, there is no reconcilled transaction records in the App where the in app purchase is made, so I cannot cross reference a legitimate purchase against the incorrect one. Accessing someone via support to speak to directly is an obfuscated process and when I was eventually able to speak with someone at Apple, they blamed the App developer (Roblox). My scenario shows that the in app process is unregulated, lacks purchase traceability at the 3d party and lacks safegaurds for double billing in the Apple side. I now welcome 3rd party app stores but do want proper consumer level protections and regulations whilst maintaining expectations on security.

[@siimlaasnurm]

Users should be able to download all the apps from App Store even after these changes are made. I like the simplicity of downloading things from App Store on iOS and this is starting to get more like the Android. Sideloading is not forced on Android, but it can be really annoying to download some app from certain app store.

[@checkmychannel5092]

It also make backup much more difficult when you reinstall everything on your phone ,as every app is from different source

[@huntno]

I only sideload apps on Android that allow me to do things that my phone couldn't do before, I've never wanted an app on the playstore and not been able to get it other than from sideloading. I only really sideload apps that don't fall within the store's terms and conditions like modded apps (revanced, free unlocked filmic Pro)

[@winstonthompson6210]

But sadly developers won't be forced to also put their apps on the App Store, or to price them the same if they do. Also, commission is not the only issue developers have with Apple, they have problems with App Store rules that are intended to protect the consumer too

[@patrickkelly5048]

I hope that if Apple does this, they don’t make it the default. I like my iPhone just the way it is. I don’t want to allow third party app stores and side loading on my device. I hope that it will be a setting that you would have to put your password in to get access too.

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I WILL ALWAYS BE A JAILBREAKER. its the only way to make the iPhone great

[@pablovi77]

@@gorgonismztruth1551 it just makes it less secure, and I don’t need it to be better. Just more secure.

[@iamjiroe]

@@gorgonismztruth1551 🤡

[@wilsonvalderrama1131]

funny part is they wont have the money to buy an Iphone lmao. You want to Jailbreaker cause you dont have money to pay Streaming service, Apps and Movies install games with Apk you want wverything for free. I moved from Android cause its a mess cant even press a app without a virus. So hope they give you more protections , security to the people that want it like the way it is right now.

[@benqwer.130]

If you are getting virus in android by clicking an app, you need to evaluate your actions not android. Using android without care and sideloading needs a bit knowledge not money.

[@ramoncastillo532]

To me this is way more complicated than simply saying this is good or bad. I can see how a lot of opportunities are made from having third-party app stores. However I also see the negatives, one that comes to mind is Netflix, and Spotify not existing in the macOS App Store if these laws come could iOS become similar🤷‍♂ I don't want to start downloading all my apps in different app stores.

[@krim7]

Back when I used Samsung, it was annoying to have to switch between the Samsung store and the Play store for different apps. Only going to be worse when everyone makes their own store

[@timotejkochjar9225]

True, but they might also just be on both stores just with different prices because apple takes a larger cut. You'd be able to choose between the app stores then and decide for yourself if you want to pay apple the extra cut for using the default app store. That I think would be the greatest solution but it might not be what happens.

[@texanmetalhead1]

It seems like having third party app stores can cause fragmentation where you will have to go to multiple app stores to get all the apps you want.

[@allenmobley8444]

Tell me you don’t know what you’re doing without telling me. It’s not as “scary” as people are making it out to be people get malware mainly through user error and opening links they shouldn’t open. With or without side loading people do this you just to actually think before downloading apps

[@MasterKey2004]

Hopefully you could download the app online like an apk in android or dmg in mac, making the fragmentation less of a problem

[@ahaimes6320]

@@allenmobley8444 The latest phishing is websites that look like the site doppelgängers. You go there to get the latest Fortnite to save yourself $2, and you end up with all your photos sent to the darknet. Just in my small circle, I have known two Android users that were undone. One had his phone broken, and the other lost money. Needless to say, they are back using iPhones and have learnt the hard way. Scammers will love this news, as they know not everyone is as savvy as you.

[@RLfilmz]

So just like how it works on every device that doesn’t run iOS…

[@ahaimes6320]

@@RLfilmz Apple builds a USP of a more secure platform, and the EU says that security is trumped by the right for a tiny niche minority to have to sideload. Sounds as stupid as it is. Why is the status quo to have it open that is a breeding ground for fraud and scammers? Your assumption that we should sideload because everyone else does is telling, as many things change with time, and I think Apple are just ahead of the game, and the EU have just got it in for Apple.

[@winstonthompson6210]

That is not good for everybody, only for android users and who want to sideload. There are people who buy iPhones not for the hype, but for Apple's protection. If developers decide to release apps elsewhere and not the App Store, then we will be forced to sideload or do without an app we otherwise would have had. They are turning iPhones into android phones. People who want to side load already had an option, android, the EU is stifling consumer choice.

[@Wiseguy1138]

Couldn't have said it better myself!!

[@RaghavVijay]

Exactly-The majority of people want the security and privacy as well as the consistency of IOS-Doing this would literally get rid of that.

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I WILL ALWAYS BE A JAILBREAKER. its the only way to make the iPhone great

[@AndrewGiddingsWA]

Yes! This is a big reason why I left Android for iOS!

[@frangarcia1699]

@@RaghavVijay Then most of people doesn't read news about reality of "privacy" in iOS, the have all your data and most of them can identity you.

[@tallflguy]

iOS will now be less secure. I’m on Apple because it’s a closed system.

[@RaghavVijay]

I think 99% of people are on  for the same reason !.

[@Mrhoaf]

The LAST thing I want to to install every company's janky App Store just to install their app.

[@LazYevgen]

Lol. Simply use apple app store an never open that alternative? Easy, right?

[@wlonsdale1]

@Od1sseas It is though. Sideloading is fraught with garbage

[@RaghavVijay]

@@wlonsdale1 exactly!.

[@racksityentertainment]

Glad to see I’m not the only one concerned by this news… how will they keep nefarious companies from us?

[@alanbio]

By you not installing their apps! They won't be installing themselves automatically, it's just a choice for those who want that! Those who don't will keep using their phones the same way.

[@berniecolin7]

You are totally right!

[@winstonthompson6210]

@@alanbio not if developers don't release on App Store. On Mac you have to sideload to get a lot of Apps, there are rules other than the commission that some developers who currently have apps on the App Store hate

[@randomcomment9992]

@@winstonthompson6210 if developers want money, they will release that in the Apps store too. Because there are a few people who happy about this, but still most of them will not add their bankcard data on any random webpage with questionable security.

[@winstonthompson6210]

@@randomcomment9992 I hope you’re right and they consider this. Because Mac is proof they might go the other direction alone

[@PurpleComrad]

This might be one of the biggest part of Apple history. Third party app stores can lead to Android users like me to move to Apple. Let's see how Apple handles this situation...🤞🏻

[@PurpleComrad]

@@archuser181 i agree

[@herohera3497]

@thearch the reason i hate a iapple

[@Dresling]

How?

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I WILL ALWAYS BE A JAILBREAKER. its the only way to make the iPhone great

[@liquidmark5081]

@@gorgonismztruth1551 literally nobody cares. You go do you.

[@chrisdixon2843]

Brilliant news, now lots of apps on iPhone can crash just like android yay 😂😂

[@RaghavVijay]

😂🤣-Honestly this is just crazy!.

[@alexanderh2720]

I really don't get it why people want this. This is one of the main selling points of iOS and the App Store. This is one of the reasons I switched from Android. Google Play is filled to the rim with junk and scam apps. I used to jailbreak my iPhones. When I was a kid. Now I just want something that works reliably, and I want to know that the apps I install are reasonably vetted. Epic Games are just greedy. And for some reason people think that they are some kind of heroes that are fighting for the people and the greater good. That's bullshit. They just want more money, just like any other company. But I think that it's fair that Apple gets a cut since they've built this OS, delivers this platform, and apps that live up to the standards get to be in the App Store. In the pursuit of "fairness" we will only get the same mess of an App Store as they've got on Android. And Apple will just increase the margins on the hardware to compensate... The iPhones will get more expensive, and we'll get a fragmented and messy App Store.

[@IllusiveDev]

The fact there are people like you that defend apples shitty and predatory practices and instead goes against the company trying to make a good and consumer friendly change is really a scary thing to witness. Brand loyalty really is something.

[@chooperthespy7883]

Android users want its system’s features on iOS devices. Whats the reason of buying it then if its gonna be the same. The logo?

[@alexanderh2720]

@@IllusiveDev You have the choice to buy something other than an Apple device if you despise them. The fact remains that a lot of people choose Apple simply because they've gone a different route than Android. Android is a fragmentet, steaming piece of crap riddled with bloatware and malware. The quality of majority of the available apps for Android is horrendous. I'm not protecting Apple per se. I just don't want regulators to force iOS to slowly become something like Android. People pay a premium for the stability, predictability and reliability of iOS and the App Store, and we should be allowed to do that.

[@michaelupchurch3779]

Hey max Techis this going to affect iOS devices privacy and security and will it be dangerous with rogue apps and will Apple implement security measures and protect users

[@RaghavVijay]

Exactly!!-This is terrible news!.

[@MarceloGarcia9]

This is bad news. Say goodbye to stability and being safe from malware. While it’s good for more people to use iOS, what good is it if the platform isn’t making money? The App Store generates billions of dollars and is what helps Apple make the bulk of its money nowadays. While it will lead to more iPhone or iPad sales in the long run Apple’s revenue will go down. The Mac can install pretty much any app but it doesn’t have half the market share PCs have. I like having one secure place to get apps that are offered by developers. So it looks like I’ll be using most of these services over Safari or cloud gaming services over Safari.

[@rvdxpress]

I think celebrations might be premature. When has Apple ever just given in wholesale? 🤔 I think there will be a catch, a huge catch, maybe a small catch, but there will be some catch.

[@petereriksson6760]

Celebrate what? That there will be no differences anymore?

[@insoft_uk]

If not broken don’t fix it, this is effectively what side loading is going to do try fixing something that’s perfectly fine and be catastrophic for the security of iOS were third party software could potentially install themselves as security in iOS is weakened due to support for side loading we’re someone finds an exploit that allows an app to install itself. macOS has gatekeeper and I’m certain this will be what Apple brings to iOS, so apps still must be approved by Apple for safety of the end user.

[@Youser.01o]

I think this is outrageous, a government shouldn't dictate how apple should operate its system.

[@MrR15177]

There is a lot of hype about this but I only see the huge opportunity for viruses and malware. I hope I’m wrong but that’s how i see it now.

[@tomvdlaan]

Fuck noooooooooo.

[@hypoluxa]

What about the possibility of iOS getting really crappy-virus-ridden apps with all this forthcoming "openness"? Will that come into question?

[@fredbureau-russell7718]

I will never use third-party apps store whatsoever ever in my life

[@randomcomment9992]

@@jmunt or they just entirely refuse to use those apps until they can't reach that in the App store, and the developers need to decide, they want to reach the 100.000 customers, or the 1.200.000.000 of total Apple users in the App store..

[@timurnasyrov2184]

I'm sure, there will be a lot more of security vulnerabilities even for those who won't use any third-party app stores or side loaded apps. Plus I don't think we need another Android, one is enough.

[@Cintmaasmusic]

3rd party AppStores... oh, come on. Who in the heck needs substitutes? It's like we never been there before.

[@quentin6583]

That sucks ! A lot (Most ?) iphone / apple users are not tech nerds who want every options possible. I want my phone to be stable, reliable and as most secure as possible. The last think i'm interested in is to have to be carefull about thirds parties stuff. My phone is my most used tool and i just want it to works perfectly and not be a headache !

[@RaghavVijay]

Exactly!!.I am sure a lot of people agree with you including me!!. This is not great for everyone!.

[@kylebelle246]

Perfect. You don't have to use it if you don't want to. Why does options scare you apple users?

[@quentin6583]

@@kylebelle246 Because there will be more option to potential safety backdoors. Android have all the options possible ... and everything sucks after 2 years once the system is full of junk / optimised only for the last thing. And i have used both Apple and non Apple stuff for over 15 years. For my daily tools, i want reliability and safety over everything else

[@kylebelle246]

@@quentin6583 android's slowdown problem is not because of being able to sideload but rather just android itself not being as efficient and the app coding language etc, and in many cases way less powerful hardware... Many android users don't sideload and still get slowdowns and other problems. Sideloading is not a problem if you don't make it one. Literally just don't use it. No backdoor will magically open up just by having the capability

[@quentin6583]

@@kylebelle246 We will be forced to use it because software companies, instead of pushing to meet Apple quality standart will start to release shitier versions directly on their website only.

[@DBX79]

All this means is I’ll be staying further away from third-party junk getting on my iPhone.

[@goncalomarques7090]

I think that this is good in a “freedom way” but I do prefer more control and stability over opening more risks and possible bugs. Who buys an IPhone knows what to expect and, I think that I can say this, the majority likes it the way it is, at least when someone refers to the app store monopoly, not because it’s good to don’t have a choice, but because it generally works and it’s stable. I know that this opinion may change after all of “this” but, until someone gives me the confidence that everything will still be working the way it is (the good stuff), I am very suspicious that this will result in something more complicated than we think, after all, we are talking about Apple being forced to do something.

[@herohera3497]

Just stop isheep

[@goncalomarques7090]

@@herohera3497 just grow kid

[@blacksageanalytics281]

No we are not going to demand it. This is why I unsubscribed to this silly channel. Bro you are trying really hard to be relevant, but…thinking people would want to keep their system as closed as possible. My first iPhone was jailbroken and using it was horrible. Got rid of it and never looked back.

[@SharonNathanielPune]

Data is new oil, and if we open our iPhones to everyone; we would be downloading loads of apps that harvest analytics and data. This will populate the iOS ecosystem; I always love the way Apple have regulated the Appstore and Privacy first. I love how Appstore lets users know what type and what data each app is going to collect; not sure other app stores will do that. We do not need another Android.

[@RiccardoMerloVegan]

Epic games takes the same, Microsoft, Sony takes the same… Apple ask much more less than 30% in most cases. Epic is just pushing its agenda and many users fall for this propaganda.

[@gumpycognac4505]

Most people want Apple products because of the rock solid security and functionality of the hardware. You people advocating for the foundation that makes the company be compromised should simply not use their products.

[@msandeepvlogs]

Allowing installing apps from stores other than Apple App Store could lead to security issues as there will be no guarantee of security checks that Apple usually does. It could be more bad than good for users. Lets see.

[@JK-pl6bh]

As long as people are ready to take responsibility for losing their data or bricking their phone when they download some CCP app. I would use reputable third party stores, but I’m fine in the walled garden too.

[@lukewalker3]

Umm seems like a lot of work for apple i will be honest I wouldn’t never download anything if it’s not from the app Store

[@DeanRau]

Well, for starters, Apple should not be forced to do anything. Nobody should be forced to do anything, but it has to do with the countries law then yes, do it, but make it very complicated

[@wlonsdale1]

I'm fine with the way things are now.

[@MaxAndreas]

Maybe you Americans see that market regulation has nothing to do with „Socialism“ but with necessary regulation in the interest of all people!

[@PerpetualPreponderer]

The backdoor that all the 3 letter agencies have desperately needed for years is finally here. All that needs to be done once this goes live is the social engineering / spear phishing part.

[@myeternalsin]

I know I’m going to hate it at work when people call me because they downloaded some bullshit app and now their phone is fucked.

[@lenn55]

Great news! Always hated Tim Cook's holier than tho attitude like only he know's what is best for people.

[@zornanrichards]

I have mixed feelings on this. I’ve never had an issue with my iPhone since the 3S. My wife, android user, has had 3 phones with malware pop up- one that stole our bank info. Changing Apple’s system sounds interesting, but I fear it’s a bad Pandora’s box situation.

[@timotejkochjar9225]

Well the app store will still exist. Just don’t download 3rd party apps if you don’t know what you’re doing just like on macs and PC’s.

[@lukewalker3]

@@timotejkochjar9225 ya it will probably give you a bunch of warnings anyways about it

[@PfropfNo1]

@@timotejkochjar9225 Yes, the apple App Store wont‘t disappear, but the apps might. Why would they offer their apps on AppStore for a fee, when they can offer them without a fee on another store. This is a double edged sword and it could go both ways. Let’s see how it goes.

[@timotejkochjar9225]

​@@PfropfNo1 True, it might also lead to lower prices on 3rd party app stores. But I guess some apps will still use the default App Store for the greatest reach maybe with slightly higher prices though.

[@christianschmitz7488]

Well, some thoughts… * Epic may never be allowed back, so no App Store for them. * Apps may still need to go through Apple for malware scanning. * Developers may still need to sign up to Apple Developer subscription to get the code signing certificate. * Stores will have to have a review team themselves. * And they need to make sure, nobody just downloads an app on one store and puts it for sale in another store. * Alternative app stores may not be cheaper. * Apple may charge a commission to pay for the software needed. * There may be legal problems if a third App Store has a malware app looking like a legit one in Apple's app store by using same icon, name and description. * For us customers it may be worse as some companies will force you to install their store, so you have soon 20 stores. And all with different accounts, difference refund policies. * As a developer, I want to keep stuff easy for me and my customers, so I would prefer to use Apple's store and not deal with other stores.

[@kholeeko]

I personally don't trust the Apple company. Pixel makes more sense for me and my wallet.

[@Chris-gp4po]

I'm sure Apple would still have to approve the other stores and could charge them the commissions on the sales made there. Apple should also charge those stores when customers call Apple for help about apps not working, scams, etc.

[@TANGiGAMING]

Look, I gotta say are used to like your channel but you are seriously misinformed you must’ve missed the 99% majority of the comments on that post saying this is exactly what we don’t want and fuck the EU. They should not have this much power. you are literally nitpicking the very few comments on that tweet that people actually enjoy. This is a serious issue for privacy. All they are trying to do is lower the privacy on iPhone. Apple is also considering charging fees and having a verification process to even have a third-party App Store or side load meaning the sideloaded apps will likely have to go through a verification process. Meaning of Apple doesn’t approve of it you won’t be able to side load it so it’s gonna be the same thing as the App Store. Also they’re considering charging fees and I wouldn’t be surprised if they charged way more in fees for side wording to where it’s not even worth it I really wish you would cover the full story.

[@parjau4554]

Kind of good news, kind of not. Great for variety and letting other apps in for which you'd otherwise need Android. However, Apple claimed that everything had to go via their store for security reasons and that is partially true (although, I'm sure the reasons were primarily not malware but $$$). I do hope this doesn't jeopardise that - although I'm pretty sure there would be some sandboxing or other solution.

[@MarbsMusic]

I switched to Android years ago to hack it, side load and use other things... It was "fun" at first but sometimes apps wouldn't work, or would have viruses etc... I need my phone to work, period. I don't use that many apps, one of the reasons I switch to back to Apple a few years ago after 8 years on Android was to get away from all that. I have servers, switches, load balancers and other things to worry about, I'll just stick to the App store.

[@trparky]

I absolutely disagree that opening iOS up for third-party app stores and sideloading is a good thing. I went with iOS because I want to have an operating system, at least on my phone, that I don't have to worry about if it's safe to use. All the apps are curated and made sure that they aren't doing anything nefarious behind the scenes like what happens all the damn time on Android. This decision is a worrying decision and one that will open Pandora's Box on iOS.

[@clintmiller88]

This is horrible for apple

[@markus1586]

And there is piracy back to iOS...

[@NorboHitman]

I don't think 'Apple is admitting defeat' is the same as 'has been forced to comply with the law', right? Plus, knowing Apple, they're going to allow it, but make it an absolutely horrid user experience.

[@Lactuent]

So you are telling that fortnite will be back on iOS?

[@mike_junmin]

What if developers and companies remove their apps from app store and move to a third party store forcing users to use that store instead? Now the app instalment and purchase doesn't have to be first party, no nutrition label style privacy information, no review of the app, basically the same security and privacy problem that Android has. This may be a win for those big game companies, but definitely not for users.

[@mike_junmin]

If they let companies to receive payments through third party site or whatever(so a third party "store" in terms of purchase), but limit downloading from the app store only(distribution channel still limited to App store), it would be the best for users in my opinion

[@VictoryHighway]

Exactly!

[@DanMills7]

I don't see this to be good news, at all. The people who will suffer as a result are the average people who do not understand the risks to side-loading and using other App Stores. Not that all apps are perfect that come from the Apple App Store, but there is less risk for the average person than the alternative.

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I WILL ALWAYS BE A JAILBREAKER. its the only way to make the iPhone great

[@MichaelGGarry]

This is NOT good news for users or developers.