Apple Wanted This Product Name BADLY - Krazy Ken's Tech Talk

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@js4032yt
@js4032yt Жыл бұрын
Imagine an alternate universe full of CIDCO and InfoGear iPhones.
@TheRedYTPer-tsn
@TheRedYTPer-tsn Жыл бұрын
We live in a society full of iPhones
@js4032yt
@js4032yt Жыл бұрын
@@TheRedYTPer-tsn Except they are made by Apple and they are slates.
@MyTereaStudios
@MyTereaStudios Жыл бұрын
A Universe Of Dat Is Here But In 4D We In 3D
@1d10tcannotmakeusername
@1d10tcannotmakeusername Жыл бұрын
Stationary deskphones which have an office-work computer in them, whose purpose is to act as communications and officework application-specific computers, while actual tower-case computers and laptops are used purely for number crunching, multimedia, software development, and gaming?
@MyTereaStudios
@MyTereaStudios Жыл бұрын
Soon ar and vr be our only thing we can use
@BakaDani
@BakaDani Жыл бұрын
When I was in a Cisco class, when I saw that the name of the OS was called IOS I immediately thought of Apple's iOS, so I was curious how Cisco was able to call it that. Well, now I know. How ironic.
@laoo
@laoo Жыл бұрын
iirc the Wii's software is also called IOS (im not sure if it was the wii, wii u, or 3ds, but one of the nintendo consoles from that era)
@NotttC
@NotttC Жыл бұрын
@@laoo Wii
@Ts6451
@Ts6451 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the reason that Cisco can call their OS "IOS" is because Apple don't think there is any point in contesting it, the two aren't likely to be confused for each other... Not to mention that tiny snag that the Cisco Internetworking Operating System is quite a bit older than Apple IOS, so if the courts found that the two were close enough that there might be a conflict in having them both known as IOS, it would probably be Apple that would have to give in. In fact, to us today the first Apple iPhone is still younger than Cisco IOS was back in 2007 when that phone launched.
@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862
@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862 Жыл бұрын
@@Ts6451 cisco own's the "IOS" name
@euvo_sound
@euvo_sound Жыл бұрын
@@laoo its the wii, wii's IOS meant for "Internal Operating System"
@donchaput8278
@donchaput8278 Жыл бұрын
I had some friends get in a Pyramid Scheme with these types of phones promoting them as the future right around 2000. You can guess how well that worked out. lol
@damian9303
@damian9303 Жыл бұрын
funny how the iPhone did end up becoming the future, just not those iPhones lol.
@Solaceon
@Solaceon Жыл бұрын
I thought this stunk of an MLM! Nu Skin is a pyramid scheme too.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Curious… do you recall if they were recruited by Big Planet? I only ask because Big Planet uses MLM, and so does their parent company. 🤔
@VidweII
@VidweII Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan Inquiring viewers would like to know.
@williambrasky3891
@williambrasky3891 Жыл бұрын
Trillion dollar company?
@JuanD817
@JuanD817 Жыл бұрын
WTF now KZbin videos have trailers? 🤯
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool, eh?
@faenethlorhalien
@faenethlorhalien Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan better than just a thumbnail, for sure.
@TheFlexTapes
@TheFlexTapes Жыл бұрын
Only premiere videos do.
@Theawesomesonic
@Theawesomesonic Жыл бұрын
It's been there for a while though
@TheFlexTapes
@TheFlexTapes Жыл бұрын
@theawesomesonic Yeah I have been using them for over a year when they came out In beta
@thescottishman
@thescottishman Жыл бұрын
I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude for the amazing content that you have been producing over the past two years. Your videos are incredibly informative and educational, allowing people like myself to gain a better understanding of the nuances of the general computer world. I especially appreciate the way you cover the strange and sometimes downright bizarre scams that occur in the tech industry. It's great to see that you take the time to educate your viewers and the general audience about the dangers of these scams, and how to avoid falling victim to them. Your dedication to providing accurate and insightful information to your viewers is truly admirable, and I can't thank you enough for the time and effort you put into each and every one of your videos. I wish you all the best, and hope that you continue to produce such amazing content in the future. Thank you again for everything you do.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😇 I really appreciate it.
@realgtasacramentodashcam7292
@realgtasacramentodashcam7292 Жыл бұрын
The senior wig and glasses are still a classic, love it.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thanks : D Maybe one day we'll see Martha…
@VidweII
@VidweII Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan Why'd you say that name?!
@ThatOneWindowsFan
@ThatOneWindowsFan Жыл бұрын
@@VidweII Because "Boomer Ken" always says "MARTHA!!!!!!!!!!!!".
@VidweII
@VidweII Жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneWindowsFan Is this when Batman, Superman and Ken all fight for their respective Marthas?
@ThatOneWindowsFan
@ThatOneWindowsFan Жыл бұрын
@@VidweII yeah
@poeterritory
@poeterritory Жыл бұрын
I always knew the iPhone wouldn't take off.
@CodeProfessor
@CodeProfessor Жыл бұрын
We used Linksys SPA phones at work and I remember wanting a WIP330 so bad. Then I got one and it was the most useless brick I ever owned. 😂
@XXxerom
@XXxerom Жыл бұрын
8:14 in Hungary, we actually call the Wi-Fi as "Wiffy". (That's just a fun fact 😄)
@PinkAgaricus
@PinkAgaricus Жыл бұрын
Also in some videos read back by TTS the TTS voice reads it back as "wiffy" too. (I watch my fair share of those, even if some of them are years old).
@HBC101TVStudios
@HBC101TVStudios Жыл бұрын
@@PinkAgaricus and Indonesians call it Wiffy as well 😂
@rubrubgames69
@rubrubgames69 8 ай бұрын
bro called Sonic Mario💀💀💀💀
@mr.Sz2358
@mr.Sz2358 5 ай бұрын
bojler eladó
@SpaceSaver2000
@SpaceSaver2000 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if someone would be able to reverse engineer the client to create a simulated server. Then we could see what the experience would've been like! Although the difficulties would include that a) the servers have been down for awhile b) It's a niche product c) It would require a lot of work.
@techiewiskers
@techiewiskers Жыл бұрын
potentialy you could mod the phone's OS to point to a different RDP adress ? is it linux based? Unix BASED?
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
@@techiewiskers I don't think it will be actually RDP, just something that performs a similar function.
@irdmoose
@irdmoose Жыл бұрын
Hey look! It's the real iPhone, not that counterfeit one that Apple makes!
@pineappleroad
@pineappleroad Жыл бұрын
Where i live, POTS lines are still used (although not for much longer, everyone is being gradually moved over to what they call “digital voice”) And i still find it funny that our internet connection literally travels along a telephone line (it used to be all the way from the exchange, but we have since upgraded to an FTTC connection (and as part of the upgrade, we were moved to digital voice), so the connection now only uses the telephone line between the house and the street cabinet, and yes, even before we upgraded, we could use the landline and the internet at the same time (we had to have filters connected to every telephone socket though, otherwise the landline phones could have interfered with the connection)) And some ISPs here are putting stickers over the telephone port on the router indicating that the port should only be used by digital voice customers
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're in the UK!! PSTN (POTS) switch-off is 2025 AFAIK...
@HBC101TVStudios
@HBC101TVStudios Жыл бұрын
POTS are the lines, the Internet connection made on the lines are called a DSL connection
@HBC101TVStudios
@HBC101TVStudios Жыл бұрын
@@stepheneyles2198 in Malaysia PSTN is scheduled to switch off as the same time as the UK, so by then every household is expected to upgrade to FTTC for high rises or FTTH for landed houses
@simplyalonso
@simplyalonso Жыл бұрын
Damn, i knew Apple had issues trying to coin the iPhone, but I didn't expect the reason as to why to be so interesting!
@app0the
@app0the Жыл бұрын
There's a company in Japan called AIPHONE which makes pretty decent door phones and intercoms, but because AIPHONE and iPhone are spelled very similarly in Japanese Apple still has to license the name from them up to this day
@cyberhikerdd
@cyberhikerdd Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Minitel terminals from France and the Prestel terminals from the UK - both predated consumer internet access. They were at their height of popularity in the mid/late 80s.
@mel816
@mel816 Жыл бұрын
Minitel even lived well into the internet age, only being retired in 2012😲That's an amazing lifespan for a system that was originally intended as an electronic phone directory to replace paper phone books😄
@meetoo594
@meetoo594 11 ай бұрын
Theres shades of that dreadful Amstrad emailer thing as well. It used Amstrads own (very expensive) isp and everything you did on it cost money. It would run up huge bills by autodialing multiple times a day to retrieve email. Suffice to say it failed pretty quickly and nowadays you cant even get the landline bit to work as it needs to talk to a long dead Amstrad server to activate every time the power is cut to it. I remember using a tv with a built in prestel terminal here in the UK. It used the viewdata protocol and resembled 2 way teletext iirc. it was horrendously expensive to use regularly.
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303 Жыл бұрын
I knew that Apple didn’t actually have the iOS and iPhone name, but I’ve never seen the device to actually start the “iPhone” name. Unfortunate that the internet side of things doesn’t work like back in the day, finding the server side software that ran it is probably next to impossible. Great video!
@dh2032
@dh2032 Жыл бұрын
getting to do simple email it show sample lay out sample, so that would provide, enough, info to start going something working, would still need a lot tweaking , but that a start, and WWW side of things well if they where be loss creative, that's going to be around the samp protocols, so that should just fall in to place, with more tweaking how a bout a more radical, approach, crack open the case, and trace, data line from the phone jack, the main board, and see where it star to change from the analogue, to the digital, pach in a lot more modern setup there? with an ethernet/Wi-Fi jack on it? a comparable part/ box may in the part bin already
@kleverich
@kleverich Жыл бұрын
20:12 - That very Cisco IP phone on the left was marketed under the iPhone brand name before the deal was worked out with Apple. It wasn't an "internet appliance", just an IP phone with some advanced (for the time) dialing features. In fact, I still had mine at work until about a year ago. Hadn't really used it much for years, so it was relatively easy to give up.
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 Жыл бұрын
I actually remember seeing these in an office building. In the early 2000's, I worked for the phone company, and I had the opportunity to install a DSL line in a small office. The receptionist asked me to install/hook up/plug in their phone "system". When she pointed to a few milk crates in the corner, with a rat's nest of wires and a few phones, I laughed inside, because I knew that this company was doomed from the beginning. They were too cheap to spring for an actual phone system. So I got the dial tone to the desks and plugged in their phones. Apparently this was her first day, because she asked me to not only set up the phones, but also teach her how to use all of the features on this. I had no idea, until I watched this video, that they were using the 2nd gen, InfoGear set up. I rummaged through the milk crates and could not find any user manual, so I looked at the screen for a few minutes, pushed the buttons to see what they did and faked the funk while I told the young lady how to use her new toy and "Enjoy."
@kFY514
@kFY514 Жыл бұрын
The UI looks very... 90s Linux-y. The fonts, cursor shapes etc. look very much like old versions of KDE or GNOME. This might be a coincidence (just taking free assets from a free OS) but... I'd still say there's a good chance that there's something if not Linux-y, then at least Unix-y inside. The timing feels a bit off, it's a couple of years before Linux took over the world (of small systems), but stuff like uCLinux was also starting around that time, so it isn't inconceivable. Taking a look inside the firmware would definitely be interesting, if possible. Maybe even hacking this thing back online isn't entirely out of question.
@mudi2000a
@mudi2000a Жыл бұрын
Probably it was using some embedded OS like QNX.
@LybertyZ
@LybertyZ 10 ай бұрын
I love the whole phone phreaker vibe of this video. (By the way, we at Cisco bought the trademark for the iPhone name not because we had a marketable product but because we knew Apple would want the name.)
@venrolado
@venrolado Жыл бұрын
I worked for Big Planet doing tech support for these iPhones back around 2000. The stories I can tell about the customers, the company, and the salesmen of these phones is just crazy. It was an OK college student job, but pretty stressful at times. As a job perk we got a lot of free cosmetic products every month, so I guess there was that.
@GODSPEEDseven
@GODSPEEDseven Жыл бұрын
It shows that a lot of work has gone into this video!! Thanks man, was a really cool video about something I never even thought I'd care enough about to watch (and enjoy) for 20 minutes.
@mel816
@mel816 Жыл бұрын
Internet appliances are back in style: only now they're called "smart" devices, including literal home appliances like washers and refrigerators😄
@blueyez1980
@blueyez1980 Жыл бұрын
I actually worked tech support for Big Planet back when these launched, and later on in site operations where we had to keep the ServerGear systems running, among other things. Nu Skin (a pyramid sch....er multi-level marketing company) actually created Big Planet as a way to try and jump on the dial-up ISP train, though the fact that they did it in the late 90s meant they were a bit late to the game. We also sold the Aplio/Phone, which was basically a dial-up VoiP appliance that only connected to other Aplio devices, and didn't share your connection. Supporting both of these was a nightmare. Getting a Windows 3.1 machine on the internet was easier. They actually gave us the older Cidco-branded iPhones (we called it the Mercury iPhone at that point) as Christmas gifts the year the iPhone 2050 (infoGear) came out, mostly because no one wanted the older, slower, single line model. Fun fact, customers HATED the speakerphone on the 2050, because they tried to implement a full-duplex speakerphone, but the half-duplex on the older hardware was a lot more reliable. There was talk about a color version of the 2050 (everyone called it the Rainbow iPhone, which I thought was stupid), and infoGear even demoed an early prototype, but well....Cisco killed that off when they bought the company.
@BollingHolt
@BollingHolt Жыл бұрын
That's cool. One thing you hardly see anymore are innovations in landline telephones. I know landlines aren't ubiquitous anymore, but I still have one. I can't get rid of it because I have the same phone number my grandparents got in the 1960s, and my family is the ONLY family to have that number, so.... I kinda have to keep it LOL. Besides. I'm 42, and hearing the phones ring throughout the house when a call comes in, be it the real bells or the digital beeps on my cordless, fills me with a warm sense of nostalgia.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays (at least in the US) you can usually port phone numbers to other service providers if you ever want to.
@tonysmall7182
@tonysmall7182 Жыл бұрын
Interested to see this one, I still use one of these on my desk at home (Cidco iPhone), just wish I could still use the internet stuff on it, but its still a great phone :)
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Do you really? : o
@tonysmall7182
@tonysmall7182 Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan Yup sure do, the first gen white one (well now a lil yellow thanks to the sun). There are no ISP's here in New Zealand providing the special service required anymore, so it just gets used as a simple desk phone, there must have been a different version here though, mine doesn't have a answering machine, just a link to voice mail. Thanks for the video, that was really interesting! :)
@oienu
@oienu Жыл бұрын
Also in Mexico we had a conflict because a telecommunication company has the name iFone making impossible to register iPhone in the same category. Apple even tried to sued but was rejected since their register is on electronics not telecommunications.
@gentle285
@gentle285 Жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos so far, love the humor!
@BollingHolt
@BollingHolt Жыл бұрын
Impressive you got 31.2 connection through VoIP on your Mac! I have an external USRobotics V.everything (I think) that I use on my retro rigs when I want to do dialup. I've managed to get a stable 9600 bps connection through Vonage, but I had to get one of the older Vonage gateways that they used in the 2000s... the nicer ones that had the backlit LCD display and menu buttons. The newer ones I've used appear to be junk.
@thetechdudemc
@thetechdudemc Жыл бұрын
He appears to be using voice service offered through his cable company as he's showing a DOCSIS modem with a voice port, I know Spectrum and Comcast specifically have theirs set up to facilitate dialup connections for business customers using old credit card terminals and fax machines
@JuiceBoxWizard
@JuiceBoxWizard Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, it's really great to see the lengths you went to to try and actually connect these to the internet. A lot of old tech reviewers would just say something like "it's old and doesn't work anymore" and leave it at that.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I didn't wanna half-ass this. 😅
@markusTegelane
@markusTegelane Жыл бұрын
I lost it at "Shut up, Mario!" :D
@QualityDoggo
@QualityDoggo Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I knew about the Cisco/Apple history, but not the other companies that predated Cisco's VoIP phones
@krdoso
@krdoso 11 ай бұрын
Something similar happened in Brazil. Gradiente is a company that filed to trademark the name "iPhone" in Brazil in the early 2000s. The Brazilian agency used to take around ten years to publish a trademark request. So, around 2007, a problem suddenly emerged in our country. It was beneficial because now, a trademark request takes around 2 years to be published.
@cathevans9859
@cathevans9859 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Amstrad emailer thing we had in the UK
@Minspi_26
@Minspi_26 Жыл бұрын
the lanmine bit legit made me laugh
@astrotone
@astrotone Жыл бұрын
The “Hey it’s krazy ken leave a message after the beepity boop” got me 💀💀
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Good : D
@15fakeaccount
@15fakeaccount Жыл бұрын
"That looks like Cisco's IP Phone" Glad that did got covered during video.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
: )
@charliesretrocomputing
@charliesretrocomputing Жыл бұрын
One of the POTS lines at my house is rewired to go into my Xfinity router so I can have a phone going over VoIP in different rooms. I remember at my old house we had internet over a POTS line and it was SLOW, like 3 mbps slow. It was basically “wireless dial-up internet” because it was slow and it went through a phone line. At this house, I thankfully have 1 gigabit speeds.
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 Жыл бұрын
The fourth generation had a metal band outlining the handset which caused the device to drop signal whenever you touched it. The CEO said you were just holding your phone wrong, but the company still sent rubber bumpers to everyone anyway. The sixth gen would bend when you put it in your pocket. (You needed very large pockets.) Every generation of this would update its firmware after a while to significantly slow the device down so that you would go out and buy the latest version even though that model did not differ much from the previous generation.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
I have a 6+ and it still runs reasonably fast. It got a security update last month. If your phone is running slow it is because the battery is no longer able to output sufficient voltage to run the CPU at full speed. Replacing it will improve performance a lot. Some websites won't work, like the one I wrote recently using the vue3 framework, and the latest versions of some Apps won't install, but it is still a reasonably usable phone.
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 Жыл бұрын
@@katrinabryce I am assuming you are talking about the Apple iPhone. I upgraded a friend's Apple iPhone 3 many years ago. It ran so slowly afterwards that it was unusable. He had to go out and buy a new iPhone 4. Crap. Apple eventually gave in and admitted they slowed down phones because they wanted to preserve battery life (according to them). However, Apple never told anyone that until they got caught. And that happened a few generations after my friend's iPhone 3 got crippled by a firmware update. But that was just one of the problems I mentioned.
@johnnycha
@johnnycha Жыл бұрын
(NOTE: This comment was posted prior to the premiere.) Trailers in KZbin Premieres...that's a new thing on KZbin now... Interesting to see this happen!
@alextoolstudio
@alextoolstudio Жыл бұрын
Wait it for premieres user im not Ohhhh the try new features
@divinadana
@divinadana Жыл бұрын
Lol i was shocked when I saw a video like😦😯😮
@kevinmiles5770
@kevinmiles5770 Жыл бұрын
LOL the best part of this video is the Extended Car Warranty Call at the end! LOVED IT!
@ray.upside-down
@ray.upside-down Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Cisco is to launch an iPhone right now and now every old man is buying thinking its the "iPhone".
@laserhawk64
@laserhawk64 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, there's dedicated hardware -- it's called a TELEPHONE LINE SIMULATOR so you kind of can't screw it up -- so that you don't have to do the whole thing with Pis or that insane sponsor-tie-in that was really just going around your own A-fifty-five to get to your elbow ;) Sure, they're a bit costly on the ol' eBay, but since you're only gonna get Pis from scalpers in the same place, with the same sort of inflated sense of both ego and pricing, well... six of one, half a dozen of the other. Funny how that works. Also, I have to say, I'm reminded by that crazy Linode-operated scheme of the XKCD that's like, "If they tell you it's fixed, never ask how they did it."
@rickybhattacharya6
@rickybhattacharya6 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ken! What email services were available in those "iPhones" -- AOL, Yahoo, or Hotmail?
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing POP3? Maybe IMAP if you are lucky. Yahoo and Hotmail had POP3 access back in the day, AOL didn't.
@Just_Kys
@Just_Kys 11 ай бұрын
6:26 “ASAP as possible” 🤓
@pupaepedorra
@pupaepedorra Жыл бұрын
OK, this was an amazing episode, i absolutely enjoyed it. Thank you so very much.
@sinimsdp
@sinimsdp Жыл бұрын
My work switched my old desk phone to a Cisco 8841 around 2 years ago. I definitely see the lineage here.
@DavidRavenMoon
@DavidRavenMoon Жыл бұрын
The ridiculous thing is every company that put a lower case “i” before a product name was imitating the iMac, iPod, etc. Remember when Compac had the iPaq? Rhymes with iMac? Seriously? Lol
@DJPalsyP
@DJPalsyP Жыл бұрын
I like the Mike Ro(we)Soft reference
@Mr.Macintosh
@Mr.Macintosh Жыл бұрын
Great video Ken. You really outdid yourself with all the work you put into this video, I loved it!
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thank you : D
@KatsuSush
@KatsuSush Жыл бұрын
POV: The very first iPhone needs a Pentium/Pentium MMX/Pentium Pro to connect to websites
@js4032yt
@js4032yt Жыл бұрын
Lol
@K24Z3CU2
@K24Z3CU2 11 ай бұрын
In Australia, the InfoGear iPhone was sold under the Ericsson brand. It too didn’t last long. Having only seen one unit that was working at the time, at the home of an Ericsson executive!
@TwigTheThird
@TwigTheThird Жыл бұрын
Finally, a weapon to surpass Info Gear
@bluey-next777
@bluey-next777 10 ай бұрын
17:04 OOF SIZE: L A R G E
@prof.crastinator
@prof.crastinator 6 ай бұрын
I had one at work and nobody believes me that this was a thing- ty for this.
@cattenchaostherandomperson
@cattenchaostherandomperson Жыл бұрын
wish i was there (that ending scene was absolutely perfect)
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thanks : D
@williambrasky3891
@williambrasky3891 Жыл бұрын
That keyboard reveal, first time a girl takes her top off in front of you: same energy
@SavvySage
@SavvySage Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed this video that I helped research! Here are five other interesting facts about the InfoGear iPhone: 1. The CIDCO iPhone was first unveiled to the public at the Winter Consumer Electronics Show (CES) back in 1997. You can see it in action here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIeVgGyVrbOmjpo 2. The CIDCO/InfoGear iPhone could only support basic HTML, so Java and/or Flash was incompatible. 3. The collapse of Cisco's stock following the InfoGear acquisition could very well be related to the dot-com bubble burst in the early 2000s, which resulted in tons of internet companies either going bankrupt or hanging on by a thread. (There was one particular online gaming service that was victim of this, and I plan on covering it in-depth on my KZbin channel in the future... *wink*) 4. CIDCO (Caller ID Company) was eventually purchased and folded into EarthLink on December 3rd, 2001. 5. Before the Cisco takeover, InfoGear had plans to add features to future generations of iPhones, including a color touchscreen, VoIP support, and even video conferencing.
@VidweII
@VidweII Жыл бұрын
Yeah, video conferencing seems kind of a given. Nightmare on a dial-up ISP though.
@occamraiser
@occamraiser 4 ай бұрын
Horrifyingly, I was in charge of a department developing software for PABXs and Terminals (phones) during this era..... there were more attempts at video phones than you could possibly imagine in the industry around the 1990s - but the technology and performance simply weren't there to support them. AND, although VoIP is ubiquitous these days its birth was both painful and ugly for those of us responsible for third and fourth tier support of these new products..... we got sued by so many customers whose networks simply didn't support QoS :) Ahhh, happy days.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 11 ай бұрын
@8:42 - As a former Mindspring tech support rep, this line gets me in the feels.
@BargainBarons
@BargainBarons 11 ай бұрын
Have you tried a modem init string? Is there a place to input an init string in the iPhone device? Maybe not... ?? Interesting video!
@sosumee
@sosumee Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're back
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Yeah… sorry it took so long. I was working on a scam-buster which needed more time, so I switched to this one and then THIS ended up being WAY more complicated than I planned, haha. The scam-buster should be out on April 6 if all goes as planned!
@moto083c
@moto083c Жыл бұрын
can you use a dns spoofer and setup a server on linode or a local machine?
@Battleduck94
@Battleduck94 8 ай бұрын
if somones fax machine isnt working with a modern voice landline, its most likely one of 2 things. their fax machine is ground start (and the voice provider needs to program it a little differently for what breaks the dialtone) or their fax machine is waiting for some specific/special "custom ringing" tone. both of these issues can be solved by getting your voice provider to just, put those on the line. you just need to know what your fax machine requires.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
The one name that Apple couldn't get was iTV, hence Apple TV. ITV is the second largest television network in the UK and launched when Steve Jobs was 7 months old.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a fun story because it goes even deeper. Apple actually used the name ITV (Interactive TV) in the '90s for a prototype set-top box which never released. I'm lucky to have one of the prototypes, and my friend Steve is unearthing the special software with his 2 prototypes. The software is lost to time. Perhaps we'll both make some episodes on it soon! It's quite rare!
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
Was it really that difficult to connect using dial-in modems? For some reason, time helps us forget the difficulties we used to have! I remember being sooo excited when I could download stuff from afar, all those years ago!!
@JackieBright
@JackieBright Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't have been that difficult when ISPs still used the POTS infrastructure that dialup was built around
@jimmysimard3008
@jimmysimard3008 Жыл бұрын
No it wasn't... Just need to plug your computer modem on the phone line wall socket and do some easy configurations in W95 to tell your system the connection details (that was on a paper given by your service provider). At least this is how it was when I went online the first time in 96, 56K was sure slow compare to today but it was faster than the 9.6K external system we used at my college at the same time.
@Zan_Jayna
@Zan_Jayna 11 ай бұрын
I had one of those house phones, it didn't have a keyboard or touchscreen or any ring options but it had 'Callmall' which was weather and horoscopes and some financial services on the phone. They cost hundreds of dollars and there was a higher monthly fee for them to work so no wonder they didn't catch on. These phones look like they were manufactured by the same company.
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 Жыл бұрын
The fact they spelled it iPhone, with a small i and capital P, is great.
@PeterEmery
@PeterEmery Жыл бұрын
One of those was my introduction to email and web browsing. A friend several years later tracked down an Ericsson version that was better, it had more connections to peripherals.
@Atsumari
@Atsumari Жыл бұрын
When I used the Qwest/USWest Home Receptionist it had to dial into a special service code to activate itself. This might also be part of the problem. In order for it to even connect to the server and call web data in any way it has to get a fun mishmash of archaic data pulses over phone from the 90s. SOME servers to program these phones still do exist and finish the activation handshake thanks to the community... I found one phone company that even still ran one a few years back. Yay for 90s telephone "feature phones" because that really is what these were the precursor to.
@Atsumari
@Atsumari Жыл бұрын
Additional reference note; I still have one... somewehre... might be interesting to pull it out of the dumpsterfire that is my storage and test it... IF I can find the functioning activations erver.
@oemoemoem
@oemoemoem Жыл бұрын
Computer Clan welcome back
@futurepig
@futurepig Жыл бұрын
Great video. The 90s had a few of these products that were trying to sell the Internet to people who were afraid of computers.
@cjc363636
@cjc363636 Жыл бұрын
Somewhere there's a middle-of-nowhere insurance company with one of these still on a front desk, with a lady named "Dot" or "Vicky" who won't let them get rid of it.
@bw4593
@bw4593 Жыл бұрын
Damn this thing was really freaking cool. Just the phone book and call log would have been so awesome in the 90s!!!! And the screen looks surprisingly good
@canyonlandsproductions
@canyonlandsproductions Жыл бұрын
I have one of the white ones sitting in a closet. I also have pretty much all of the resources to try connecting it to something, including access to multiple unused analog phone lines at work. Dang it. I didn't need another side quest 😂
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Amazing! : D
@KainRefusedTheSacrifice
@KainRefusedTheSacrifice Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to share, that I love your enthusiasm. Brings me back to my younger self tinkering with computers. 😅
@dtvfan24
@dtvfan24 Жыл бұрын
ahhm the memories, remember using this. its like a big pda
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 Жыл бұрын
I can see the similarity between these Cisco phones and the one I use in the office.
@Ed_Stuckey
@Ed_Stuckey Жыл бұрын
*Project Mercury* was the first human spaceflight program of the United States, running from 1958 through 1963.
@rockyBalboa6699
@rockyBalboa6699 Жыл бұрын
So Basically Steve Jobs is a bully who just stole someone else's ideas and brand names!!
@DazzaJay
@DazzaJay Жыл бұрын
I have a voice plan through my modem. My shitty old fax machine works perfectly through it, even though my ISP has told me repeatedly that it won't work. Yet it sends snd receives just fine. I use it for testing the fax machines of local businesses.
@kurushiiarashi
@kurushiiarashi 11 ай бұрын
Just stop by my office. I'll show you a working one 😂
@davidew98
@davidew98 Жыл бұрын
If you want to make a modem, data, call or a fax call through your own voip system you have to make sure the protocol is set to a protocol that has no compression. If you were trying to use your Internet service providers, voip service you need to notify them that you want to have a fax machine on the line and that you need them to change the protocol to a no compression protocol
@hunterdavis3003
@hunterdavis3003 Жыл бұрын
In the nineties we had no idea that landlines and home phones would become extinct. Most thought services would piggyback on the phone , never the other way around
@theodoros_1234
@theodoros_1234 Жыл бұрын
21:21 That ending🤣🤣🤣
@hunyesmith03
@hunyesmith03 Жыл бұрын
I’m only 27 (doesn’t feel like “only” but anyway) and I still use my traditional BT landline, idk why I just love having a “proper” phone number and the analogue-ness of it all, nostalgia, I guess? Will be very sad when British Telecom (BT/Openreach) move to a digital, voip service. Although I’m a nerd so…. Most people probably couldn’t care less. Is nice though that atm if the power is out and you have a non cordless landline then you can still use the phone, in a few years this will be no more :(
@mudi2000a
@mudi2000a Жыл бұрын
Interesting that there is still classic landline in the UK. Germany is now VoIP-only, would have thought we were the slowest. We still had fully analog electro-mechanical switching in some places until 1997.
@9852323
@9852323 Жыл бұрын
I’ve used voip for a dial up connection and it worked.
@ButterFromDiscord
@ButterFromDiscord Жыл бұрын
16:06 ah I see, so big planet is owned by an mlm
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Yeah… 😅
@adamn7516
@adamn7516 Жыл бұрын
Back in around 1995-96 there was a windows software program called from Vocaltec called Internet Phone commonly referred to as Iphone which was an early VOIP.
@MaxPower-11
@MaxPower-11 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm… the three developers of the “iPhone” were Israeli, as was VocalTec… maybe there was a connection 🤔
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
- You'd think that things would get cheaper, faster, easier, and simpler over time, but counterintuitively, some things get _worse_ over time. 🤦 Another example that many people are familiar with is playing old games. - 21:26 Yeah, scammers are so bad, they'll find a way to contact you even with out-of-service equipment, even through time! 🤦
@RandomGreymane
@RandomGreymane Жыл бұрын
Admit it! You did this whole video JUST so you could make an extended warranty joke! ;-) (I enjoyed the video though regardless.)
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thank you : )
@v2joecr
@v2joecr Жыл бұрын
I remember going to an MLM meeting to try to sell that iPhone or something similar. I didn't want anything to do with that company, so I didn't spend any money on it. (It was long enough ago that I don't remember the exact name of the product or which company it was with. I also had vibes that it was a bad idea. DSL & cable internet for cheap started shortly after that meeting in my area so it seems like I dodged a bullet.)
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
Probably NuSkin. It's a well-known MLM and according to Ken they owned one of the partner ISPs.
@NinMan64productions
@NinMan64productions 20 күн бұрын
0:00 I love these old man intros😂😂😂
@theodoros_1234
@theodoros_1234 Жыл бұрын
5:33 Where have I seen those exact names before...? It's almost like a long time ago, someone made another parody thing that had those in😉
@Sypaka
@Sypaka 9 ай бұрын
15:21 The same vibe as "I use Arch, btw"
@supa0ne
@supa0ne Ай бұрын
"who wants a stylus" aged like fine milk
@djafk
@djafk Жыл бұрын
I still have a Cidco iPhone, recently came across it going through boxes. It was quite the futuristic device back then. I still want my wall-mounted video phone like in the 80s/90s movies 😛
@Richardhammond1969
@Richardhammond1969 2 ай бұрын
11:36 is that phil schiller voice???
@spudhead169
@spudhead169 11 ай бұрын
LMAO, I had the same issue trying to get an old dial-up device working. It took me about an hour with a USB modem, my Windows PC, some virtual serial port software and a bit of coding to get it working. I think you need to upgrade your tech team Ken, I mean I worked it out and I work in a restaurant for god's sake.
@jwillisbarrie
@jwillisbarrie Жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding actual captions for the Deaf. - an amazing history
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I like to go the extra mile. I wish more channels would do this.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 Жыл бұрын
Even the modern Apple iPhone emails say "sent from my iPhone" when sending email... as a default footer message.
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