Chronicle of Channel Drain Failure - Extreme Water Damage

[@DangerRussDayZ6533]

Hey Chuck, if possible, I'm sure I don't speak just for myself when I say we'd love to see a follow up on this during/after heavy rain, just to see this system in action! Great job

[@fredgrenz8468]

Yes, especially at high tide. I hope that discharge thru the seawall is high enough

[@torchup]

Truly mind numbing that all previous hardscape "pros" did not abide by the simplest concepts of drain flow and then continue to dismiss their customers concerns and complaints afterwards. Infuriating. Great job cleaning up that mess, Chuck.

[@nedcramdon1306]

Ha, ha... ya! They knew they couldn't do it right the first time.

[@OGRH]

Right?!? It sounds like his area has a serious vacuum, & he is swimming in work!!! Poor customers! I would leave my customers high and dry!!! But only if it was dry!!! Reputation is EVERYTHING!!!

[@aprev039]

It’s nice to see a video that doesn’t include a sump pump. What you did here was solve a puzzle with pieces left over from a previous job. Excellent work.

[@bertramusb8162]

I know this video is a year old now, but I just wanted to comment that I really appreciate how you instruct and teach your employees while you are also teaching all of us.

[@joemills3018]

Ever thought of using primer and solvent cement on your pvc pipe joins?

[@TheSundograin]

It’s a real blessing to have somebody who knows what they’re doing come in and fix everybody else’s mess ups.

[@gregsettle9725]

My first thought was to install a sump pump and take care of the water that way. I see by what you did you saved them the maintenance issue of a sump pump by doing the job with passive drainage. Excellent!

[@josephj6521]

Passive drainage is better if the option is available.

[@Keifsanderson]

Great work, Chuck. That other drainage contractor should be sued for the cost of their work plus the cost of yours. They ripped these people off. Was it the same contractor who did the channel drain? They should be sued too. This ain't rocket science.

[@jonspengler5891]

Absolutely

[@spayced]

This situation is all too common. I have hired many contractors and most of them solve 3 problems and create 1. Your options are limited if they did what they said they would do in basic terms.

[@jumperstartful]

You have to figure the cost of attorneys, time in court and frustration. Sometimes it's not worth it, but up to you.

[@denjhill]

What a refreshing exposé. An honest contractor. You are the best because you are not afraid to show your work. But, once again, based on their experience I am so very reluctant to hire anyone to do work at my place. Seems like it is a crap shoot with the odds stacked against you.....unless they have a KZbin channel and show their work. Great job!

[@sheltdog8463]

It seems like any contractor that has experience could look at the lot and see that the back yard was lower than the front and even the installers that do any type of drainage work should be familiar with a level!!! That’s just as bad as a plumber not using a level! Great job Chuck! Your videos definitely helped me out on one of my customers crawl spaces where I had to install a interior French drain with two sump pumps and encapsulated the crawl space! I/we saved him well over 15k! Thanks Again for your great knowledge!!!

[@ClassicRefuseTrucks]

That downspout manifold was a work of art...the drop pipe from the channel was a great idea

[@pachoram05]

I agree to the job well done (manifold) however: The drop pipe from the drain channel should be the same size ("in") as the drain channel itself.

[@robertperez381]

Nice work! Would love to see the drain in action during the rainy season. Keep us updated.

[@tyelandscapinganddrainage]

Wow, great job Chuck. You threw the whole arsenal at that one.

[@dhenschel4]

Nice work with all the workarounds - sign of a good contractor

[@OGRH]

From one Florida drainage expert to another... You're a good dude Chuck! There is more than one way to skin a pig, & the fact that you have the empathy to do so at a fraction of the cost after the hacks ran off with the big bucks is a testament to the fact that you deserve to get the work first. Not after it's a dumpster fire!

[@ktmkarl]

Great video. I would have more than likely used to sump pump though. And talk them into a rain collection system to offset their sprinkler system or filling the pool back up during hot months.

[@Voltechs]

The Rod Stewart of drains. Amazing. Would love a follow up video showing it performing under load!

[@thomasnichols9839]

Wow what some people do. I’m glad you are making these videos. My neighbors and I have or some have had a drainage issue in our back yards. Their solution was to raise their land or redirect the rain down spouts away from their houses and it now grades down to my back yard. I can’t raise my land as we will find ourselves back in this same problem. So I have been looking on how to fix this without having to cost me greatly and to keep peace with my neighbors. Thank heaven I found your channel. I see it will most likely be my solution. I will be in touch. If anything to purchase your pop up drain system and materials to drain my yard and get rid of mud and have grass. Thank you. Now by the way I’m hooked on wanting to watch these videos to build the very best drainage for my needs.

[@ken481959]

This is why many municipalities have a requirement for run off distribution to be approved before the shovel goes in the ground. Stormwater drainage is becoming a big deal here in Pa due to water quality problems.

[@jumperstartful]

Gravity and water, it seldom lies! Great thinking and solution.

[@hoodjyrome3030]

God Dang Chuck you are the man!!!! I watched so many of your videos and got my drainage issue resolved

[@scottboyne8305]

Great job Chuck. I've learned so much from your videos. Sometimes homeowners don't realize how much is involved with these jobs. I've saved my house by watching your videos. I installed my own drywell with an m98 zoeller pump and sent it to a pop up drain. I love it , I can sleep at night now

[@REXOB9]

Love your videos, thanks. Amazing that anyone would install a drain that tries to go uphill.

[@samwilkinson9906]

Would love to see video of this system working during one of your monstrous storms down there. It would really illustrate how much better your work is than all of the doofuses who came through before you.

[@appledrains]

Watch the end of the video

[@samwilkinson9906]

@@appledrains That's my mistake. I saw that footage but hadn't realized it was after one of your/Florida's huge thunderstorms.

[@josephj6521]

@@appledrains ah? I watched until the end. Cannot see how it’s working during a big rain event.

[@rcytb]

Darn that gravity! Nice work. Sounds like lawsuit time for the unfortunate homeowner.

[@spayced]

Takes a real pro to develop different solutions based on the customer situation. Thanks for sharing.

[@WilliamSymionow]

Great job. What a mess. I'd have those other guys in court asap.

[@michaelmichael1716]

I was in agreement with everything you were doing, up until the corrugated pipe. Never use corrugated pipe, they always clog.

[@ronn773]

Pure genius! These people are lucky to find you.

[@confidentlocal8600]

What a job! You can't trust anyone. I probably would have jackhammered or drilled the concrete so that rigid PVC could go straight through.

[@mikesbarn1858]

I had a problem with my 1/2 acre pond over flowing into the yard during heavy rains. I used the maximum full level to install drain pipe to the ditch. As I dug by hand I watched the water flow to get it working properly.

[@ken481959]

Yeah, you have to keep a pond filled to the maximum level or muskrats will tunnel under the bank and cause it to drain. Even then you must watch out for them.

[@alondraperez5487]

Mr. chuck thank you for sharing the best of your knowledge. You have a beautiful attitude Sir.

[@bondjamesbond7634]

Well done I’m a paver myself and drainage is the most important part of every paving project these people were very luck to find you mate absolutely brilliant job 10/10👍👍👍

[@prizecowproductions]

Australia has very strict discharge regulations. So most contractors do the right thing. You through all your years of experience have virtually solved what a licensed builder would be required to do good work big thumbs up from me.

[@josephj6521]

Supposedly but I’ve seen some shoddy work such as PVC pipes left open near the foundations or land sloping towards a home with no drainage or not enough downspouts etc. I don’t think inspectors check or if there are inspectors.

[@robertsantos9740]

Hey chuck, what is going to happen when the water level raise up above the pipe on the sea wall ?

[@JenniferF2882]

It'll flow backwards into the system because there's no one way check valve or backflow preventer

[@OGRH]

If that pop-up was higher than the catch basin in the rear... not only did they not fix the problem, but when they attached that downspout to the system, they effectively rerouted more water to the problem area!!! Geeze! You must love your competitors! Your market is a goldmine, & they are lucky to have you!

[@Ann-tv2sl]

Come to Ga! My sister has a horrible situation similar but the water comes into her garage/basement. With is last rain on 3-8&9-2024, she used a shop vac until 3am and estimated 250 gallons emptied out a basement side door. 😢 she is 66 years old. Any recommendations ?

[@nextjin]

I'd only be interested to know if that 1in drain was capable of handling the volume of water you'd expect out of a 4" drain. I know the catch basin is there, but I might have added 4 1in holes going down into a 4in pipe then that connects to the 4in pipe underneath.

[@bdennisv]

You are a good man, Chuck!

[@ds1752]

Great work and excellent explanation of what was done incorrectly.

[@reapsgrimley]

what did you do about the seams in the channel drains...

[@akinun]

Great videos and hello from Turkey! I'm showing your videos to our drainage contractors to explain to them what I specifically want. Very valuable information!

[@Smokeythewelder]

You do such a good job Chuck.

[@LetsgoBrandon0U812]

Hoping to learn about storm drainage systems!

[@abadee520]

Nice work. That’s what happens when the “trusty” homeowner hires folks that don’t understand the physics behind their work and don’t understand this process. I’ve see this many times at homes that I purchased or at friend’s homes. There should be a strict code established for this sort of process.

[@edwardreyes1186]

Nice Chuck good 👍 work and I’m learning a lot

[@robertsnearly3823]

It's hard to believe that a company can do this kind of crappy work and denied any problems or fixes. I know nothing about this kind of work but common frikkin sense indicates incompetence and sloppy work. For what?? The money. It's all about greed but thankfully there are those companies to help because of their love of skill and honest work. Wow.....just wow.

[@henrykalani6146]

Great job!!!!!! Very well done Chuck bet homeowner was really happy next big rain lol.🤙🏻

[@dac7046]

The sad thing is that at least around here (near Denver) this kind of schlocky work is the norm and pretty hard for homeowners to find the “good guys”. Now I almost never hire work done. If I can’t do it myself via KZbin, rental center and my own brain and body I try and figure out how to do without.

[@josephj6521]

That’s why I’m tackling an issue myself after watching dozens of videos and reading endless articles. It’s not hard but it’s hard work. Make sure water runs away from a home into a drain and that the system flows downwards to daylight.

[@jimrylander9143]

Can the 1” drain keep up with a large rain storm?

[@nmopzzz]

Is the 1" pipe going to be enough to drain the pool area? I would think that will backup pretty fast. Its much much better than was there, just wondering...

[@gman8042]

The one inch hole is just to drain water collected by channel, additional water run off from the paver deck will drain through the catch basin that is now connected to drain pipe with outfall to the canal.

[@TampaDrainDudes]

Genius work on this one!

[@charleswieand4445]

Water drains. We had a 10 inch rain up here in Michigan couple years ago farmer had nice pond in front of his pole barn. He had his irrigation pump pumping water up to floor drain in barn for 3 days before he quit. Seems his drain ran to the low spot he was pumping from . Reason for pumping was he had a line of farm equipment setting in water.

[@donnahamilton253]

I had a contractor pour a 25 x 14 concrete patio. The job was done so poorly. It has many places that are low that collect water. I also live in Florida. We get a lot of rain and heavy rain. They said they would come back and fix it. They were here for weeks, trying to fix it. I finally gave up and had to fire them, so now every time it rains it reminds me of what a crappy job they did. I don’t feel like hiring somebody else to rip it out and start all over again. How do I know if those people would be capable of doing it correctly?

[@livingaboard]

would love to see this in a rainstorm working properly.

[@paulmanson253]

Hi. Just looking at that open pipe through the seawall. Does that part of Florida have issues with rats,muskrat,nutria or other critters ? I remember when I was a teenager,a muskrat family ended up blocking part of the drainage of the family house. I got volunteered to find out and to this day,I still remember the smell of rotting drowned muskrat. This was the NW corner of the Bay of Fundy. With a warmer climate such as yours,I would be inclined to a one way valve, hardware cloth coarse screen,or some bright idea that would deny entry to enterprising animals. Maybe not needed,you are there I am not. Just curious. Cheers.

[@JenniferF2882]

Yeah I was wondering that myself... even a curious bird could make a nest there. Should have some sort of backflow preventer before the outlet along with some type of self-closing cover (think like the louvered dryer vents that open and close automatically when running a dryer).

[@kevinshea4776]

Chuck, I really enjoyed this video. Great solutions to the channel drain and ultimately; everything out to the canal! Amazes me that people with the talent of laying pavers or landscaping, would know better than to run drains lines uphill!

[@elevated8978]

Theres a pvc fitting like the one you created called a right hand sand tee or a wisconsin by the old schools.

[@murraylove3632]

Good work Chuck...👍👍

[@michaeladams2077]

Chuck. You the man. I like your way! Man I have to say every video I watch has actual dirt with not a single rock. I have about 80%rock. It is so bad my neighbor ran into a 15” foot in diameter boulder wher he wanted a pool. My question is have you ever ran into a rocky ground? They want 30k just to remove that boulder. You all have dirt that can be moved with ease. Over her you can’t even stick a stake 3 inches Crazy! You ever dealt?

[@ItsVideos]

The corrugated pipe fittings aren't watertight are they? Won't they leak over time and cause the soil to erode?

[@Jesus4UWH]

Great work Chuck and crew!!

[@joetart9905]

Too bad they didn't call you to start with. Nice job, Chuck!

[@justadbeer]

Nice job Chuck. Always enjoy your videos.

[@jmfarrell5]

New viewer… Great video and excellent workmanship and customer service. 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Una2Cold]

Would have loved to have seen you cut and attach the 1 1/2 inch pipe from the channel drain to the T. Find that very intuitive. Wish we could have seen that. Also what’s all the screw for? Does that help keep it together? Did U caulk and seal every joint? Awesome video! Ingenuity at its finest. Love your content man

[@melvinreece4006]

nice positive note at the end!

[@JenniferF2882]

No glue on the pvc pipe drain pieces? Where you connected the pieces at the channel drain 15:42 , did I see bolts holding the PVC together? I know it's just essentially stormwater drainage but - those bolts will cause headache by having protrusions for debris to inevitably get in there & get caught. Why no glue?

[@whiteknightcat]

I've seen other applications where only pipe dope was used to attach underground components. That's what I did when I finally installed mine, then wrapped each joint in 4 inch wide Flex seal rubber tape. The drain line is not a pressurized system so the glue isn't really necessary. In addition, if any changes need to be made in future, the pieces can simply be pulled or twisted apart and re-used. Remember that in systems using corrugated piping, the components are just snapped together with no bonding agent at all.

[@orionwarren4244]

I wondered why the outflow wasn't directed into the canal? 🤔Well, at least you saved these homeowners, Chuck!

[@jaynesimmons2403]

Wowsers! Impressive. Nice job.

[@jamessickmore236]

Great job follow up with rain storm would be nice wanna see results : )

[@Novasawildone]

Wow, impressive! Great work 👏

[@tedtolentino4955]

Chuck, great video, and I always enjoy your clear explanations. My question: I have heard that you should never place a French drain next to the foundation of a home. But if the drain is properly constructed and sloped to allow water to see daylight can you think of a reason why this should ever fail to protect the foundation? I did so to my home as a replacement for a damaged, hard to reach roof gutter. I placed an 8mil plastic sheet up against the foundation to further prevent water penetration through soil to the foundation, before backfilling. I used the downspout connection to the underground drain pipe that sees daylight at the street to connect to my French drain. Keep up those videos; they are so informative.

[@Sohostorm2K14]

I understand that the pipe isn’t under pressure but how about some primer and glue on some of that pipe and couplings at the 45’s. Just piece of mind thing on my end I guess

[@JenniferF2882]

Yep. Glue it for future land shifting and settling (which will most definitely happen, especially being in Florida AND on a canal, and it being a new installation). PVC glue should've been used 100% on EVERY connection, never ANY screws or bolts to protrude INTO the drainage pipe to catch debris and cause blockages.

[@PatriciaAnnGriggs]

Truly Amazing Work so interesting and informative 😊😊😊🏅🏅♥️♥️

[@Jeff-ik3hn]

great video! Can you start showing some footage of the job after its complete in the next rainstorm? It would be awesome to see it working in a real life scenario!

[@nobodyspecial-d5j]

not sure if you'll see this since it's such an old video, but i'm in tampa and was wondering what part of florida you're in, i could use some help with paver/drain install. thanks

[@larryshulman8845]

Great video

[@oceans281]

Great 😎 job Chuck. i love you positive attitude :)

[@FixItWithMe]

With all these multiple turns and connections, doesn’t it clog a lot?? Dirt, leaves from the gutter, shingle pebbles coming from the roof shingles. How can the homeowners maintain this to prevent clogging and problems?? All this drainage info is fascinating and fun to me!!!

[@johnlatvenas590]

great job, that one inch hole in the channel drain, that won't be a problem? seems like a lot of water on the deck that will go into that one inch hole.

[@gman8042]

The one inch hole is just to drain water collected by channel, additional water run off from the paver deck will drain through the catch basin that is now connected to drain pipe with outfall to the canal

[@devilmonkey]

That's mind blowing, the complete incompetence 🤦‍♂️ how do these companies stay in business

[@AlfredGustafson]

Good work.😊

[@baronjenkins6285]

Hey Chuck you can actually get parts for any channel drain you would like it takes a bit more research and find them retro fitting apart works I guess but it also has more likelihood of failure most pool drain channel is one of two companies it's either stegmeire or Quaker plastics it's a bit of a hassle to get in the State of Florida unless you're willing to travel to South Florida to a distributor called r&w distributors but from my experience in drainage using proper parts always has a better end results

[@rupertochavez4977]

1 inch drain line bit to small for Florida rains 🌧 😕 🙃 but gd job...

[@LordLoMR2]

Funny how those contractors didn’t even use a water hose to test their work. They would have know right away it wasn’t going to work. 😂

[@israelortega1722]

what can I do if Im pulling water out from my backyard to the front yard city drain? the problem is that I'm at a foot deep in the back but the city drain at the end is much above that like 6 inches. was thinking of cutting into concrete basin.

[@MeaHeaR]

Fascinating

[@dr.vickielynn]

Would love to see you follow up with the homeowners after the next rain. How did it go? Did you need to make any adjustments?

[@RobCalhounPGH]

At 10:48 you are putting a 45 in there to catch the right drain (looking from the canal). But doesn't the left downspout come through that straight line? You probably put a wye in there, but it's not in the video.

[@pachoram05]

Hi Chuch, 2 things I noticed from this video. 1) I did not see you using glue to secure/seal the pvc pipes together. 2) A 2'' drain channel with such a large area to cover to drain through a 1'' in down drain pipe? Please explain. Add! You used a corrugated pipe to avoid to cut down the concrete block, I think that the corrugated pipe is going to cause a clogg down the road, pvc shudl be used all the way.

[@WayneBralewski-b7z]

I agree with the guy below very Nice Job

[@KeepRowing247]

Love the music Guys got an awesome tan too

[@wanderingjesse3024]

any suggestions: i had a channel drain installed in front of my garage bay doors - LOVE IT! But the driveway is lined with trees - any suggestions on what i can do to keep the leaves out of the channel drain when fall hits? thank you!

[@SaxJockey]

I have a standard 4" wide channel drain infront of the garage, similar issue with leaf fall (maple/oak/beech). Don't think there is an easy answer. I have to clear out the channel a few times each year. It can even accumulate leaves inside with a week (it still drains OK). I got fed up with sweeping leaves of it, and from inside a porch. Just bought a small cordless leaf blower to move them leaves along 😁. The channel has 2.5" outlet into a 4" pipe beneath. Some installations show inclusion of a balloon leaf guard on the 2.5" outlet. Not so sure that is a good idea, I could envisage that blocking up (causing flooding) much more frequently than the risk of the outlet pipe getting blocked.

[@wanderingjesse3024]

@@SaxJockey yep i agree with the leaf guard - I just have to accept the fact that i will be blowing leaves a lot for 2 - 3 months out of the year - but at least i know i'll have a dry garage -

[@SaxJockey]

@@wanderingjesse3024 I installed a garage door threshold seal; hard rubber strip fixed to the concrete base where the door comes down. The plan was to keep out any rain that was creeping/blowing under the doors. It works very well and also keeps out leaves and seeds 👍.

[@JenniferF2882]

@@SaxJockey doesn't that seal attach to the garage door itself though?

[@SaxJockey]

@@JenniferF2882 The seal I meant attaches to the floor (see link). It does not prevent leaves in the drain, but it helps keep wind blown rain getting under the garage door, also leaves, seeds and dust. Best thing I did was to install that seal. Unlike in the video below, I had to shape the strip to fit around bolts that secure the door frame to the floor. Use the adhesive sealant around all areas where water might get into the base of the frame. Garage now keeps dry and much cleaner. The link shows one brand, I used another brand. kzbin.info/www/bejne/poTZmnqKjZZ0nrM

[@jackbrown6913]

So, does all of the rain water that goes into the channel drain just have a one inch wide exit hole?

[@BrandonBousquet]

How were you able to backfill under the patio pavers so that those won't sink in the future?

[@irgski]

Smart! Great fix!!

[@edburke9181]

Great work really enjoyed watching this!!

[@garfield8900]

Isn’t there some kind of membrane that could be used over the top of the channel drain to prevent dirt and other debris from getting in the channel?

[@motionsick]

Awesome work and channel