Sex? Ceremony? License? How Are You Actually Married in God’s Eyes?

What does the Bible say about a marriage ceremony, a marriage license, and sex making you married to someone in the eyes of God? According to the Bible, here are 5 points to consider.
Timestamps
00:29 Point 1. According to the Bible, Sex Does Not Constitute Marriage Because Then There Would Be No Such Thing as Fornication and Sexual Sin in Singleness
04:33 Point 2. According to the Bible, a Public Vow Is Needed to Be Married in God’s Eyes Because Marriage Is a Public Institution Created By God, Thus the Community Has the Right and the Need to Know When it Occurs
08:30 Point 3. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Formed in Public Because God Uses the Community to Keep the Marriage Accountable
13:59 Point 4. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Public Because God Will Judge Those Who Abuse a Couple’s Marriage Union
15:25 Point 5. According to the Bible, Christians Should Submit to the Community Guidelines to Have Their Marriage Authenticated Unless Those Guidelines Are Sinful
19:40 Summary
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[@ApplyGodsWordcomMarkBallenger]

Timestamps 00:29 Point 1. According to the Bible, Sex Does Not Constitute Marriage Because Then There Would Be No Such Thing as Fornication and Sexual Sin in Singleness 04:33 Point 2. According to the Bible, a Public Vow Is Needed to Be Married in God’s Eyes Because Marriage Is a Public Institution Created By God, Thus the Community Has the Right and the Need to Know When it Occurs 08:30 Point 3. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Formed in Public Because God Uses the Community to Keep the Marriage Accountable 13:59 Point 4. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Public Because God Will Judge Those Who Abuse a Couple’s Marriage Union 15:25 Point 5. According to the Bible, Christians Should Submit to the Community Guidelines to Have Their Marriage Authenticated Unless Those Guidelines Are Sinful 19:40 Summary

[@jenna2431]

Wrong. Your understanding of the original language words is pitiful. The sexual behavior called into question was deceiving someone or abusing someone sexually. You absolutely cannot JUSTIFY God's telling David that if Saul's wives and concubines weren't enough he would give him MORE by YOUR interpretation. And spare me that "culture" excuse. God bent a great many "culture" cues, but not this one? Sell that to somebody without a brain, okay?

[@newbee2262]

So is marriage in front of family and government officials legitimate?

[@newbee2262]

@Michael G okay so marriage in a court is valid Thankyou

[@junerussenblumgarcia3856]

can pregnancy makes you married in the eyes of God?

[@carolinenjoroge1195]

@@junerussenblumgarcia3856 no because a man can get 5 women pregnant...will all of you become his wives?

[@angiepeace4830]

🚨confirmation alert🚨(I’ve been asking God for a better understanding on this topic because I know of so many Christians that are fornicating. “God, I’m still confused about what is considered marriage in your eyes, but I trust that you’ll give me an understanding one day. I thank you, I love you, Amen.” 🚨I said this prayer 2 days ago 🤯 God is so cool 😁 Thanks Mark 😌

[@sheldonallison5014]

It's a lot we don't understand... Gods law isn't American law..

[@TheKingsComingAlefTav]

What does the scripture say A marriage is between one man and one woman and God where was the public vow between Adam and Eve there was not one It was between him and his wife and God The scripture states a man shall leave his family cling to his wife and they become one flesh.. Public display is good but that is not needed It does not do anything. If you don't get married through the state but you have a public vow before a few people and the person is corrupt that does nothing The state doesn't recognize it still no more than God wouldn't recognize your commitment when you say that you make a covenant with him and each other

[@DavidNicholson101]

​@@sheldonallison5014Yeah, it's legal for any two people of any gender to get married in the USA🤯🤯🤯🤦🤦🤦👹👹👹

[@voquoncarter924]

Me too! I'm grateful to see this!

[@stephyLynn7]

I just ordered your book! I left an abusive 12 year marriage 3 years ago with 4 kids and I am enjoying your biblical studies and content. Thanks for using your kingdom gifts to bless so many!

[@SA-iu7xj]

Can you leave marriage when it's abusive?

[@SA-iu7xj]

Can you leave marriage when it's abusive?

[@aliciawoods8925]

Yes you can. Staying in a abusive relationships is dishonoring GOD and yourself. You would be enabling evil behavior, and that’s not of GOD.. I encourage you to read Ephesians 5 for more clarity.

[@carrillo100100]

@@aliciawoods8925 good point!

[@Bennysol]

@@aliciawoods8925 "abusive" is such a loose term now.

[@JanMitchell.SheMovesForward]

Thank you for providing greater clarity to this matter as I have erroneously stated and thought that sex with an individual means you're now "married" before God. I know better now. God bless you!

[@cdrumz]

I think the conversation that more people need to be having in this case is the fact that in those days two people got married in a much different process than we do today. Today, we put emphasis on dating and saving up for a wedding before we actually are married. That’s puts a much greater time frame on it. It was different in Bible times. Much simpler. Also what needs to be talked about is how past relationships and sex can effect a future marriage, even a godly one. Much better to let God clean your soul up before marriage.

[@greglovelace246]

Agreed, brother. It was less on looks and more of women and man coming together for GOD. And when both were godly, you had obligations to each other and simply loved and trusted each other because you had more devoted believers. This is why GOD spoke about getting with a woman of the same belief. You can find everything you need in the holy word. He also speaks on clothing and not putting sin in others' hearts by doing these vanity things which happenned even back then. Makeup and painting your skin is looked down on by god. It's in the book , but even women believers won't listen to it. Evil has crept in the minds of our family and a real godly marriage is rare to find and it just gets passed on to the kid in a endless cycle but each generations there's more outlets for evil so it all gets worse, worse and worse each generation. We are creatures of habit, and evil is enticing to us, even in small unspoken ways. Let's start at the roots and get with the opposite sex that desires to be holy for god. If you dont do that, it will end badly. Leave the unbelievers to their style of relationship and get with those who believe. You'll be able to tell a difference in the two, but with sin still in the believer, it's still hard. Echo of a lie over time, and now there is sin everywhere.

[@theresemalmberg955]

Also remember that for much of Biblical history (and history in general) marriages were not love matches, nor was there much freedom of choice in the matter, especially for women. Often times the couple did not even know each other beforehand. It was, to be somewhat vulgar, a process more akin to animal breeding than what we call marriage today. Marriages were used to seal treaties and business deals, to expand the family holdings, and yes, to keep the line going. The woman herself was simply the tool to achieve all this. For a contemporary example, look at the marriage of then-Prince Charles and then-Lady Diana. We all know NOW what kind of marriage that was; but it was very conveniently forgot or ignored at the time that the Royal Family had been concerned for some time about the fact that Charles was still not married even though he was in his late 30's early 40's and he needed to find a suitable bride ASAP to produce the required "heir and a spare." Not just any one would do--they needed a maiden mare with the right conformation and breeding to put to their prize stud, and Diana fit the bill in a way Camilla did not. We all know the end of that story. So yes, that kind of thinking is still around. And it would 100% fit in with the way marriages are described as happening in the Old Testament. Isaac needed a wife because he too was pushing 40 and Abraham needed grandchildren, so Abraham sent his servant (not Isaac himself!) back to the old country to find a wife for Isaac from his own family line (shades of the Hapsburgs!). The servant sees Rebecca, says, yup, this looks like the one, she's doing everything I asked God to show me how I would know, and so he and Laban sit down and negotiate the bride price (another thing we generally don't do these days either). They summon Rebecca, tell her what's what, ask her does she want to go with this guy she doesn't even know to a place she's never been to marry someone else she doesn't know, and she says yes. Now, did she really want to go, did she have good reasons to leave that we don't know about, or did she, despite being "asked", really have a choice? We don't know. All we know is that she went off with the servant back to Abraham and married Isaac, who "loved her the moment he saw her". Did she love him? Did it matter? Obviously not to the writers of Genesis because they don't mention her loving him, only him loving her. Whether they all lived happily ever after well you can read the rest of Genesis and draw your own conclusions from that. SO, if you want to live by the rules of a 2,500 year book, that is fine, but understand that we no longer follow many of these rules and customs. We, for the most part, do not arrange or pressure our children into marriages; we allow them to choose their own spouses. We generally do not marry back into our own family trees; we are far more open to interfaith, interethnic or interracial marriages than they were in Biblical times; and we no longer require bride prices or dowries or any kind of "marriage fee". We do not require widows to marry their late husband's brother in order to raise up children in the late husband's name; we do not require kinship redemption (as in the case of Ruth); and of course we generally do not allow polygamy either. The only thing that we DO allow now that they practiced back then is surrogate motherhood (see Hagar); we're just more sophisticated at it. And by the way, marriages were not only universal, they happened at a much, much earlier age for girls at least than they do today; shortly after puberty. So premarital abstinence lasting decades was virtually unknown. Check it out. There are numerous examples of women in both testaments who desperately prayed to have children (to be precise, sons) but there is not one woman who prayed Lord, send me a husband. She didn't have to. All these things (and more) were part of Biblical marriage. I can, if you want, cite book, chapter and verse. Yes, marriage in Biblical times was simpler. Do we want to go back to that? Then we will have to get rid of so much, starting with courtship (dating) and the idea of marrying for love. There was no such thing as individualized romantic relationships; it was a family and community matter. There are places in the world today and even in the US where people still practice arranged marriages within their own communities; but to do so requires a degree of separation and isolation from the rest of society that I don't think many people who were not brought up in these cultures would tolerate.

[@cdrumz]

@@theresemalmberg955 I’m catching your drift here. I believe you’re mixing up the ancient Jewish culture of the days and the message of the Bible on marriage itself. The New Testament writings of Paul are clear on marriage and seem to have had an effect on how marriage is seen in some parts of society. I don’t believe too many have fully grasped this concept. In order to do that you’d have to first believe that God can ordain marriage, from that standpoint then God would actually bring you a wife and vice versa.

[@theresemalmberg955]

@@cdrumz I don't doubt that the Bible puts great importance on marriage. Still, it seems very odd that there is absolutely no description of what makes one married rather than living together. Adam and Eve did not have a wedding ceremony nor did they exchange vows. So what constitutes a valid marriage in God's eyes? Many people have wrestled with that over the ages. What about common-law marriage? When you are living on the frontier and there isn't anyone who can stand in for either church or state, what is a couple to do? Now the Catholic Church defines a valid, sacramental marriage as the following: marriage between two non-Catholics or even non-Christians, whether conducted by a clergyman in a house of worship or before a judge, is considered a valid marriage. So if one or both decides to convert to Catholicism they don't have to get remarried in a Catholic ceremony. However, if a Catholic marries someone who isn't a Catholic in a non-Catholic ceremony, that is NOT considered a valid marriage. This is important because the Catholic Church does not allow remarriage after divorce. But it does allow remarriage in the case of a church annulment which simply says, yes, the couple may have gone through a ceremony but it was not valid. (There are also civil annulments). The annulment process is very time consuming and it is up to the church to decide whether this marriage meets the criteria of valid or not valid. The most famous case was that of King Henry VIII and his wife Katherine of Aragon. Why does all this matter? Because the Catholic Church takes the words of Paul and Jesus very seriously. There is one exception to the no remarriage after divorce rule and that is the "Pauline Privilege". It applies to marriage between a baptized person and a non-baptized person. If the non-baptized person wishes to go their own way, Paul says, they can, and the baptized partner is free to remarry if they wish. But it only applies to non-baptized persons. If a Catholic wishes to marry a divorced Protestant then the Protestant must seek an annulment of their marriage through the Catholic Church. As you no doubt can probably tell, I was raised Catholic, so it's not just a matter of how you get married, but who you CAN marry. If one takes what Jesus taught on remarriage after divorce seriously, then that knocks a whole lot of people out of the marriage pool. It is why many Catholics end up leaving the church after getting divorced because if they can't get their previous marriage annulled then if they don't want to live single the rest of their lives, they have to go somewhere ese where the rules are not as strict. I have noticed that while many Protestant churches stand very firm on things like no women pastors (citing Paul's words on the subject) I am not aware of ANY that forbid divorced people to remarry and I suspect that that is because they know full well how well that would go over in the pews.

[@dawnstonerock4253]

Amen!

[@GabyDee7]

Thank you for a concise biblical view on what constitutes a marriage in God's eyes. Very much needed.

[@BigMac4459]

This isn't a biblical view- this is his own view.

[@TheHelenhunter]

​@@BigMac4459 then what's the biblical view?

[@natiusvideos7968]

You always do a great job on explaining and exploring scriptures Mark. I thank Jesus Christ for people like you that are always sharing positive teaching and faith

[@Jericho-xs3ju]

Nautusvideos The only thing he explained was his opinions. He must read a completely different Bible. Because almost all of this is not even in the Bible. It’s a twist of scripture and assumptions to make or fit his narrative

[@MCharlerySmith]

Great video, Mark. Thanks for taking the time. One aspect that is often overlooked in the “two shall become one flesh” scripture is conception and birth. The husband and wife physically remain separate individuals but their child/children are evidence of their two bodies physically becoming one flesh.

[@ApplyGodsWordcomMarkBallenger]

Thanks for sharing Matthew

[@kamille640]

Prayed about this two days ago!!! Thank God for his timing 🙌🏽

[@cuprunnethover2509]

Wait until married! You won't have any regrets!!!

[@ms.shakia2689]

Great biblical explanation. Always enjoy your content. It brings conviction at times and gentle correction. God bless you and your family. Keep going❤

[@chelseaoctivia7135]

Beautifully said. I love how you were able to break everything down.

[@tinaj9621]

Probably one of the best, insightful videos. These questions aren't addressed and many people especially those that oppose marriage or want excuses for not making taking that step.

[@dianagentile7636]

Thank You 🙏🏽 Brother Mark 💕 AWESOME word… Keep God FIRST ☝🏽 In ur life…By being OBEDIENT & Follow the Ten Commandments This has been my Personal Philosophy 4 My Life… Have A Blessed Weekend Everyone & Stay Blessed Always 🙏🏽🙏🏼🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️‼️

[@christwarrior8501]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. This is a topic I have been asking about for a while now. The Holy Spirit answered with this video.

[@LeadTheWeak]

I was thinking about this the other day. Perfect timing as always brother Mark.

[@cuprunnethover2509]

Wait! You'll be glad you did!!

[@Leticia-rg8dw]

Even though I've been married once before I really didn't know what a marriage truly was I had just turned 22 and now that I'm considering marrying again I was wondering about it and here you are explaining it. I think God is trying to tell me something. Thanks for taking your time to help me understand exactly what it is. God bless you 🙂

[@oreocarlton3343]

You would be entering in an adultery union, marriage is only once

[@tahtiyannamaxwell263]

Thank you so much for this video this is exactly what I needed to hear 3 years ago before I walked into the "sex is marriage" trap and got pregnant out of wedlock..

[@ruanim509]

You are a huge blessing to us, Mr. Mark.. Thank you so much for sharing your God-given gifts.. God bless you more and keep you and your family. 🙏🤍🤍🤍🤍💫💫

[@thisisupperside]

If we are going to talk about marriage, we ought to start by defining it. Like Jesus, we must start with God’s definition as He defined marriage from the very beginning (Matthew 19:4-5). I contend that God’s constituents for marriage are very different from what we, as a post-modern American society, would identify as essential components to define a marriage relationship. It might surprise us to consider that the very first marriage, in fact the most perfect earthly marriage, was not begun in a church building. There was no clergy, priest or preacher to perform the ceremony. There was not even a wedding! or a dress! There had been no courtship, no first kiss, no engagement or ring. There was no government to issue an official certificate of marriage. Yet, this is the foundational example that Jesus points to in order to teach about the nature of marriage (Matthew 19). So, if God does not define marriage by a church building, a license or a wedding ceremony; How does God define the constituents of marriage? God says there are three things which constitute a marriage. Leave. Hold Fast. One Flesh. Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. AKA MARRIAGE. (Genesis 2:24, ESV) If one of these 3 are absent it is NOT a marriage. Therefore having sex with just anyone IS FORNICATION. Having sex with your partner that you HOLD FAST to, that you left your family for and that you became one flesh with is YOUR WIFE OR HUSBAND IN THE EYES OF GOD. A marriage ceremony and certificate is great and SHOULD BE DONE BUT ITS NOT NEEDED TO BE MARRIED IN THE EYES OF GOD.

[@marymbugua515]

Waoh,good explanation

[@Matt-jz6ek]

Very well put. Simple bible.

[@seabreeze4559]

spiritual ties or ties that bind intrude here, we take on a sexual partner's karma even without cohabitation

[@jeremiahchapman9288]

You cannot use this to define marriage because it does not take into consideration that an unmarried girl is the property of her father. If any man were to have sex with her without her fathers approval, then he has damaged the fathers property and must pay her father the same amount of money as if he were to pay her father a bride price. So, today, the father of the bride has to approve the union for it to be valid. There needs to be an exchange of value because a man buys his bride. Then they must come together and consummate the marriage. THEN it is a marriage in the eyes of Yah!

[@jrod1382]

Wow...The twistings and turnings of Scriptures, translations and interpretations is truly heart breaking.

[@SF-sl7fi]

What do you mean?

[@seabreeze4559]

Americans desperate to deny their carnality. Whilst claiming they have done no wrong from the other side of their mouth.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@SF-sl7fi I think the implication you can sleep around without spiritual ties that BIND. Marriage is a spiritual bondage after all.

[@quinoasongs2507]

Thank you. I will keep this in my pocket in case I get into a new relationship. If community isn't as important to him, that is a red flag. I am thankful that I learned that before officially committing to marry the last one

[@shirleymyahs_dghtr8182]

Very well answered. I hope many more were enlightened by your explanations with biblical reasonings. God bless you.

[@ApplyGodsWordcomMarkBallenger]

God bless you too! All glory to God!

[@blesschild2159]

Bless you Mark🙏🏽. It was very very helpful. Thanks for clearing these questions up for me. I held some of those views...now I know I have to let them go based on the Biblical truth and wisdom you presented.

[@brendagalluzzo5959]

Thank you Mark for explaining this. I have had many questions about this matter.

[@bradhill4590]

The bible never called forication "pre marital sex" The only reference with sexual intercourse and fornication was incest. 1 Corinthians 5:1.

[@mustardseedist]

Get some discernment please. You fail to understand Jewish espousal in Matthew 19:9/5:32 KJV

[@bradhill4590]

@@mustardseedist I believe it's you that lacks discernment. The only example the bible gave of fornication was a man having sex with his mother. Leviticus 18 gives a long list of people you can't have sex with. What this man done, is on that list. Pre marital sex isn't in the bible. God went as far as to say, what's joined to a harlot, has become one.

[@bradhill4590]

@@mustardseedist I believe it's you that lacks discernment. 1Corinthians 5-1 is a man having sex with his mother. Refer to Leviticus 18. Long list of people you can't have sex with. Only example of forming.

[@ChanTheMan1996]

@@mustardseedistMatthew 19:9 is talking about grounds for divorce. Fornication is biblically defined as Prostitution.

[@jouc12_75]

How was Adam and Eve's marriage public when there were no other people on the planet?

[@marymbugua515]

Good question,I think marriage should be a covenant between God,man and woman,the rest God will instruct them through the Holy spirit on how to live.

[@mustardseedist]

Notice he never gave Bible verses pertaining to a "public" event.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@mustardseedist why not?

[@bryaneagon3059]

Because God Himself officiated the marriage. He walked with them in the garden before the fall.

[@jouc12_75]

@@bryaneagon3059 So he is not capable of officiating them today? Humans have no authority to decide who is married or not. Traditions are not official in God's sight.

[@WarriorQueen1962]

Great information, MOG! God bless you, your family and ministry! You are doing a great work! 🙏🔥❤️😇

[@TheJCFan]

What was the scriptural basis for #2? I mean you say theyre not just social constructs based on your culture, but where it the scripture? I see only where its defined as between a man and woman and we are to leave mom and dad to initiate it. So basically a man and woman can get on KZbin and say "We're now married" and because they did it publically, God accepts it. Here we go with the double standard....

[@donnies4693]

Brother Mark-Thank you so much for addressing these topics in regards to how marriage appears in the Word of God and God’s take on the matter! I believe brother’s and sisters in Christ should hold the Bible as the standard in how we are to live in Society in general-even if it’s lean is naturally wicked. There is a lot of talk regarding changing/redefining what Marriage is and/or should look like, and the Holy Scriptures provide the necessary Wisdom and insight…thank you for your obedience & courage to take this on! I pray God’s continued blessings on your Ministry!🙏🙏😇😇

[@RebaAziel]

We have been together for 8 years , we cannot afford a wedding , we made vows publicly at a restaurant and both said we ask God to be present and guide us in our relationship, we want marriage but It is not attainable right now . We are one flesh , we live together and have publicly asked god to be the center of our relationship. We do want a ceremony but i have no idea when that will happen . Its all so confusing. Would god consider us married even though there has been no ceremony ?

[@peacelight7858]

Thank you for explaining so well this topic✨✨✨✨I gave me clarification and understanding about marriage in the eyes of God ✨🙏🏿

[@kuhleamahle130]

I believe that you delivered an excellent representation of biblical truth. 🎉Thank you

[@thesingerintheshower]

So helpful. For me, personally, the most helpful one thus far (and I keep up with all of your videos). Thank you. I know that our KZbin community might be considered small compared to the ones with ridiculously large followings, but your impact here is great and I think that it surpasses the impact of those larger KZbin creators. (This is a very generalized statement because it's a KZbin comment and not a research paper, so please excuse any lack of nuance or context that could lead to dispute or confusion. Thank you.)

[@casperondat983]

The only thing I stand firmly on is not letting the government in our union. Great video

[@macyphillips6141]

How did you go about this? Me and my fiancé want to get biblically married but don’t want the government involved in our marriage. I’m just scared god won’t see it as a valid marriage if we don’t have a marriage license.

[@shalom4441-o6i]

@@macyphillips6141following

[@JOKing-ku8jg]

​@@macyphillips6141You have a right to marriage, if you obtain a license you are sinning against Almighty God because the government is now your god ! !!!

[@seabreeze4559]

it's a contract, disputes happen

[@seabreeze4559]

@@JOKing-ku8jg false, the government is simply a notary

[@cuprunnethover2509]

Not sure who came up with the idea that you could just shack up and be married??? 🤔 The devil is a lie!!

[@AmericanDreamer]

indeed, because if you go on and believe the sweet sounding lie, that when a couple have a sex, they are now married, that makes a couple, both man and woman, guilty of fornication which is a sin that according to multiple verses, will end you in hell unless confessed to God and stopped/ corrected. Who ever preaches that sex is a binding element, that forms marriage, is of the evil one, tempting and seducing people into accepting the wide way to end up destroyed....be vigilant..

[@oreocarlton3343]

Jacob and Leah, marriage starts with sex

[@cbtam4333]

Not sure that example counts. God says we are to generally submit to governing authorities unless it requires us to sin. But God does not require anyone to submit to non-existent government authorities. At the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, what governing authorities existed in the Canaanite area were more in the city-states, with rural areas such as where Abraham lived only sparsely populated with no unified government jurisdiction. Abraham and his family’s marriage practices would have been dictated more by cultural tradition than law because there was no national government around in Canaan to enforce it. The same cannot be said for the world we live in, with almost every square mile of land on earth currently under the legal jurisdiction of just a couple hundred nations. Submitting to governmental authority is simply not applicable where there is no or virtually no governing authority that exists. But it is relevant for Christians today.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@oreocarlton3343 specific passage please? I dunno where to start

[@seabreeze4559]

@@cbtam4333 monarchies have divine right of kings

[@jinduogbugh2887]

Very good piece. I totally agree with you on this.

[@justinchamberlain3443]

6:01 says the marriage needs to be "public" and recoreded w/ the govt but doesnt really cite any biblical support. I was at least expecting a romans 13 ref

[@QueenSamiyah]

Great breakdown. Definitely in line with spiritual principles!

[@LIAHEDWARDSKOBE24]

So can I get married without the government involved and I just have my witnesses as my family ?

[@pamelav.5699]

🌈🌟💞🌻ThankYou for bringing out these Godly truths! Very Helpful!

[@Tel934]

Thank you for this. Very needed.

[@isaacmarquez09]

Been asking this for a while, great video

[@2thankfulnGrateful]

God is truly working thru you to express what The Father states facts! God alone is God! POINT BLANK! Especially the point with Genders God made! Each gender was required to play there rules as God states!! Amen!!

[@yoronola3270]

So did Solomon have 700 public ceremonies?

[@seabreeze4559]

This normalisation of debauchery from American Christians is odd, isn't it?

[@ChristIsKing426]

@seabreeze4559 You are so angry! If disagree with someone, explain your reasoning and move on.

[@comatose-child1368]

And what of the concubines

[@KennethDiazperlloni]

​@@comatose-child1368 Good question. Concubines are like girlfriends, many of the chosen by God had concubines one of them is King David, Abraham had a son with a concubine.

[@edwinedwards5008]

😂😂😂😂

[@Аноним-щ3н]

To the 5th point, most of the guidelines of the community are sinful now (earning more money, buying property, gaining status and power), so this point would be missing most of the time unfortunately.

[@oreocarlton3343]

Isaac and Rebecca never had a public wedding

[@Lynnpriscilla]

How about if you get married through the court without a public ceremony ? Isn’t this a legitimate marriage too ? Since it is written in paper ?

[@RafaelQuintanilla605]

Jesus teaches us not to make vows. Matthew 5:33 Nowhere did i see the very important word you said, publicly.. Genesis 2:24 (KJV) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

[@seabreeze4559]

so all the players vowing to never leave....? huh

[@XxLismixX]

If government approval is needed - then what would constitute as a divorce? If someone is in a abusive marriage and spouse refuses to legally marry the person but vows have been exchanged in public - what does a divorce look like

[@allforthegloryofjesuschris6250]

Thank you so much for this as a woman who has been married twice one husband is deceased and the other one was verbally and physically abusive, I tend to fall prey to the same thing because I have never had a healthy marriage: This helped to clarify everything for me that I had already known through the scripture with Jesus growing stronger inside me. I will stand in truth to knowing that marriage is a beautiful covenant created by God himself and I will wait for God to send the one that he is created for me that I am equally yoked with

[@AmericanDreamer]

have you thought about getting officially divorced from your second husband or are you already divorced? How do you reconcile it with scripture that tells us to not divorce unless sexual sin ( cheating, i guess) and for wife not to leave husband unless he dies? means, if we ever marry again, that marriage doesn't count in Gods eyes and also your new husband is now sinning, by being with a woman, who is an adulteress. ? I have very similar situation to yours and lately i struggle greatly to come to terms with this. You are welcome to share your insights. greetings

[@allforthegloryofjesuschris6250]

I don’t have all the answers. Adultery is not just about sex. I believe that adultery is that which we do against God . We cheat on God every time we sin. we choose ourselves. We choose worldliness. The world as we know right now is run by the ruler of the age, the devil. I am not married at this time. The second marriage almost destroyed me and my children we were getting physically abused as well as emotionally and mentally and financially drained. The commandment says you shall not kill. This man was killing our spirits and eventually would’ve taken our lives. I do not see in Scripture how God would have it in his will for his people to stay in such abusive toxic environments. He freed the Israelites from a toxic environment.run by a narcissist. The issue was they seem to want to go back to that though he had just set them free. They also made other gods. I seek the truth. Whatever is God’s will is my will for my life. I don’t have all the answers. All I know is I love Jesus and he comes first in my life now.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@AmericanDreamer would jesus let you be abused? no.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@AmericanDreamer it's like only honouring parents if they are honourable people

[@Kimberlee0319]

God Bless you, thank you for sharing

[@mariem7250]

Great , clear video. Thank you!

[@mariem7250]

Good teaching. Thank you.

[@supe3724]

My dawg, Mark. Great video. Keep doin what u doin. U helpin a lot a of people. We appreciate ur videos and the good work u doin .

[@daughterofelohim7]

Thank you Sir for speaking the truth in line with ELOHIM'S Word. May ELOHIM Bless you richly. Amen.

[@donfilkins298]

The key point is " Isaac loved her" and became his wife. They were commited to each other and became husband and wife before the God they worshipped. Another point . Did God recognize native American marriages down through the centuries since they did not worship the God of the bible?

[@nicey6888]

I have been exploring this topic lately and I find it conflicting. When I looked at the Bible verses (using chat GPT) for a quick pull. There is absolutely no reference of ceremonies, witnesses outside of God Himself or contracts. I believe marriage today turned into a business, many marry for the wrong reasons such as malicious intent to gain another person belongings, to divorce there is also a business aspect of it involved and even if the couple is ready to take the steps to be married they now have to wait to save up to have the traditional ceremony or wedding along with everything else. To me and I’ll continue to ask the Holly spirit for more guidance, marriage was made by God therefore what he established is what honors it, essentially a covenant in front of his presence.

[@KatieBenson19]

I think that there is a few references of ceremonies and witnesses. We see from the beginning that Adam and Eve were able to communicate directly with God which made him a witness of their marriage. We see the example of the wedding feast in Matthew 22 which was a type of public ceremony. There is also many examples of witnesses to a marriage in the bible. Though they are not your typical witnesses like we have today they still know the marriage is happening. For example, Genesis 24:1-10, 24:58-60, Malachi 2:14.

[@marymbugua515]

What about the nature in which ruth and boaz got married in the Bible???what can we learn from it???

[@jamesdrinkard2751]

I agree with a public marriage, but get married by a pastor in a church with a marriage certificate, not a state issued, state controlled license. The state is a 3rd party to the marriage and it is shown as they hold the original license, not you, at least in my state. I'm hearing about Christians who do this to keep the marriage between them, God, and their spouse, not the state. Something to consider.

[@lovefortruth3414]

Sadly. Most churches demand a government marriage license, whether they require a church certificate or not.

[@seabreeze4559]

the state mediates disputes in the contract

[@seabreeze4559]

@@lovefortruth3414 and the tax man would love to hear about not needing the state to intervene...

[@tjaspire]

It is made legitimate when it is acknowledged by the public. I see what you're saying, Mark. 😌

[@mrlucious05]

I dont know if someone will end up seeing this comment, but I really hope to get an answer, I am a christian, and I believed that if I considered myself married, a ceremony wasnt necesarily needed, so at that time my country was ( * by the way still) under gang hostility, I flew to a foreign country and with expired paper it is hard to even go out in the street but as we (me and my wife, cause that how I considere her to be) were living together, we decided to declare ourself married, though we presented ourselves married in front of people, but now due to tradition our parent still living in our home country doesnt accept that they want a ceremony which we have no problem to do but due to our country filled with insecurity and our legal situation it s really hard / impossible to do a ceremony! so! can I have a customized answer because the vieo is explicit but each situation are different. am i married? or do I have to seperate with her till we re able to do a ceremony? and she has no where else to go if she leaves the place we re both living at!

[@ivanaivanova2428]

Thanks for all the info that was helpful. Was wondering how it’s supposed to happen.

[@lauratempestini5719]

Let’s pray for THE FATHER to give us true understanding 🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼

[@christopherolugu7404]

They are public roles but that doesn’t mean that if you don’t do it infront of ppl then God doesn’t approve. The other ppl is for when u want to leave and religion isn’t a strong enough reason to stay together. It don’t say no where that you must publicize the marriage. Publicizing the marriage is just to make everyone else feel better and letting others know that you’re married. God don’t need the marriage to be publicized. He can bless it on his own.

[@bearkawiboy6246]

I completely agree with the your doctrine here! No where does it say sex makes a couple married or you need a man made document to say you are married. The document is only for legal issues such as property or children and the Bible does address sex outside of marriage many times as being very wrong. Thank you for all your time and knowledge you apply in these videos!

[@oreocarlton3343]

It does, Leah and Jacob. God proved right, men a liar once again.

[@seabreeze4559]

ties that bind, marriage is soul bondage

[@jongclemens9098]

So what about Atom and Eve who were there witnesses if it wasn't father, son, and holy spirit

[@comatose-child1368]

What actions biblically constitute a marriage Straight from the Bible The Most High has no problem say thou shall not So can someone help me out here What constitutes a marriage Not examples of married people The physical thing that takes you from 2 to 1

[@jasminewatlington5763]

What if a couple goes before the church and has a whole wedding to become one without government registration is this considered marriage in God's eyes?

[@hunterkenton]

if your conscience is against the government registration then yes

[@lorenzow]

Yes

[@JuanDuenas1943]

Number 5 is so important. Many men who are afraid of divorce laws argue, that they don't need to report their marriage to the state, because they are married before God. I believe that people who hold this opinion are living in sin, because they do not want to be legally committed to their partner. It seems they violate husband's love your wife like Christ loved the church. If you don't want a state marriage certificate, because you are afraid of the legal advantages it gives your wife then you need to ask yourself if you are getting married for biblical reasons or not.

[@romscar77]

This is not specifically to Juan Duenas but this reply fits under his reply topic: To add with agreement and from a different perspective: The institution of marriage in today's western world is now an unconscionable contract. Where either party can, at will, dissolve the contract with no repercussion from the governing law. And actually encourages one party to behave poorly. The societal checks and balance of the legal contract have been neutralized. As a result, we see divorces are down. Why? Because marriages are down. We have the influx of men forgoing the idea of lawful marriage because of extreme bias in Family Law (Family Law is not to be confused with Constitutional Law, 2 different jurisdictions). However, there does seem to be a balancing out by the judges because enough time has gone by that they've seen 1st hand their loved ones get raked over the coals and ending themselves... OVERWHELMINGLY one party more than the other. Ask me how I know. Again, unconscionable. The definition of a license is to have permission to do something that was previously illegal. What would be illegal? Tax code advantages (Also very questionablely legal). What does inviting Man's Law into a personal relationship and a God's Law institution do? I suppose one would be physical protection (by force). Another could be a compelled redistribution of resources (keep in mind that there no examples of any position that either sex can't do or perform in our western societies). And if one party can't (or won't) make ends meet, the state will gladly hand out resources. Both for the here and now. For what was designed to be the church's responsibilities and purvue, the church (as in us, the people) seems to have, by and large, lost its testicular fortitude and is all to willing to concede when things get uncomfortable. Remember! We serve the same God who called for death for adultery. And the same God who ordained and orchestrated the entire annihilation of people groups. That includes the women and the children. Talk about uncomfortable! That's the same God I seek. AND thank God Almighty we now live in a time of grace. So we have many problems that are hard to digest and reconcile. (dissonance much? Lol) We have a society that encourages the use of judicial system for gain. (see also: Briffault's Law) We have man adding conditions, policies, rules, and laws to scriptural teaching (Pharisees) We have a church that is derelict of duty (invite the church to the wedding but not the divorce. Which by the way is permitted by hardness of heart. Not adultery. And divorce was never intended but was made allowable by God) We have an unconscionable law document (exceeding the limits of any reasonable claim or expectation; not conforming to reason; unreasonable; inordinate; extravagant). We have the conundrum of an old (tried and true) set of societal rule books with checks and balances in exchange for a new set. The feminized set (open hypergamy). God instilled in us a hierarchy and governance guidelines in the masculine. One could argue that it is sinful to deviate from that by the 1st commandment. That our way is better than God's way and therfore we are taking the place of God. We now have 3 generations of men (God's ordained leaders) being essentially castrated in purpose. Protection (for men and women): law enforcement gets called instead of the church's men, or a brother or uncle. LEO's have hard decisions and are in the heat of it. All men bad right? (See also: Deluth Model) We have humanity's inate hind-brain hardwire (aka Evolutionary Phycology and Evolutionary Biology). Delve into that for more uncomfortable truths of underlying human behavior. Especially when it comes to reproductive imperatives of the sexes. The 3 P's: Protection, Provision, Parental investment. We have somehow held onto the notion that even though the 'equal but weaker vessel' can't, by their own agency, better their station or circumstances. But it's not a matter of can't. More like (generally speaking) won't. Turns out men and women are different, by design, and on purpose. Our "Western World Society" has made every concession to make egalitarian opportunities, even to the extent of unfairly hindering. Some parting thoughts: I do love The Lord Our God. I seek Him and abide as much as I humanly can. I very much try not to be a stumbling block. We absolutely need to have differing opinions and interpretations (as iron sharpens iron). I believe in the idea and ordination of marriage, just not 'the how' we do marriage now. Marriage is wonderful example of our relationship with God and for raising children.

[@oreocarlton3343]

What state certificate had Isaac had when he took Rebecca to his tent?

[@peterrunge5501]

@@oreocarlton3343 fair question. I think some kind of contract is probably wise to protect people legally if things go wrong. I don't see why our marriages have to be "public". Prenuptials/private marriage contracts are a thing ...

[@cbtam4333]

@@peterrunge5501 If it involves a legally enforceable contract, then it’s public. Not in the sense that the wedding is open to the public or can’t be privately celebrated, but in the sense that the terms of any legal contract are enforceable in a public court of law and the legal outcome is published in official documents that are available to the public.

[@peterrunge5501]

@@cbtam4333 I was thinking more in terms of the first part of your response, but good point :)

[@brianeckwood8891]

No scriptures to back up anything you’re saying. These are your traditional beliefs. Gen 2:24 does have the word publicly. There’s no scripture that says say your vows out loud in front of people. Being married to your wife is not like being a mayor over a city. What should people who can’t afford a wedding do? Not marry? A private ceremony doesn’t count? Where’s the scriptures? So basically the community has to justify the marriage in order for God to solidify the marriage 🤔. You can be married without ceremony. Show me in scripture, not your traditional cultural beliefs.

[@TheSunnyTrails]

Yeah f*** me right? Excuse my language. It’s impossible for us to get married because we have to spend 15-30k or it’s “not a wedding” guess I’ll just burn with passion and be angry my whole life 🤷‍♂️

[@njerilucy2769]

The scriptures he is using and even writing on the scriptures...don't live in denial

[@HatpredikantenIfranEuropa]

Isn't Fornication about Sexual Immmoral sins/Forbidden Sexual Relationships mentioned in Leviticus 18?

[@lauratempestini5719]

Deuteronomy 22 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be 😢his wife; BECAUSE he HE HATH HUMBLED HER 8:14 , HE MAY NOT PUT HER AWAY ALL HIS DAYS. Hosea 4: 6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

[@seabreeze4559]

exactly

[@andrejones2147]

Genesis 24:66-67 KJV [66] And the servant told Isaac all things that he had done. [67] And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death. So what happened in the tent sir ?

[@skoobyhenderson5155]

Lol must have been a threesome or something because according to modern traditional Christian interpretation there has to be paper and pen, along with someone to watch or perform some ritual...

[@seabreeze4559]

"took" Rebekah

[@andrejones2147]

@@seabreeze4559 he slept with her

[@linab8706]

This was very helpful. I was seeking this kk knowledge because my reasoning for not getting a marriage license is because the government shows to be corrupt since now they are allowing same sex marriage. I would love for an opinion on that.

[@Hyorikatsu]

Hey Mark, I have seen this senario happen twice before. A brother and sister in my church like each other and are told to build in a godly way. There is sin involved and so forth the relationship isn’t pure so they never are officially dating, because the church won’t bless a relationship in sin. Now this couple goes and gets married with the state in secret. So they come back to the church community and now expect everyone to honor this deceitful thing. Does God even honor this kind of marriage. Does it still count cause a secular judge said they are married?

[@mariem7250]

What would you say to a women who is legally married to someone by a State lisence and lives with another man who she refers to as her husband? She believes she doesn't need a state marriage nor a State divorce to be married to another man. At first she said she couldn't divorce her first husband because she didn't know where he was. It's my understanding that's not the case at this time because she now has knowledge of his location. Her first husband committed adulty, which frees her to marry another. Apparently, she no longer feels it necessary to dissolve the first marriage through a state divorce.

[@Kimzzyanimation]

You said yourself that God would make it absolutely clear. He didn’t make it clear that you had to have a marriage ceremony to be married he also didn’t make it clear that sex makes you married however he did make it specifically clear that committing to someone and making a covenant to God sealed with sex is marriage marriage has different laws depending on where u go it’s just like how the church building isn’t the church it’s the people

[@Aslan-cometh]

So if common law is a part of our culture, and the partner I've been with for 12 years is in agreement with me, that we are married, and her and my family see us as married, then are we married in the eyes of God? Minus the ceremony, and church and so on?

[@peterrunge5501]

Fair question. Historically, most cultures recognise marriage based on acceptance and recognition through the two families - and that's it. "Public accountability?" In the Bible? How would that have worked for Christians before marriage licences?

[@justinchamberlain3443]

10:01 Hes saying that a judges ruling in divorce is "just". But thats again non sensical. Judges are ruled that murdering a baby is legal and indeed a womans "right" to do so, which of course is an abomination-romans 13 is only speaking of governing authorities in general terms but is in way declaring all the actions of govt to be right bc otherwise God will would be authorizing 65million babies to be murdered in the US alone. So then proper ethical conduct is not inter-related w/ judicial decrees but only from the word of God. If a judge then grants a woman to receive more money than what she is deserving of, she have become a thief and not court ruling on this earth will change that. She would have to give what she had improperly received from husband and in the very least return the amount back for her to be forgiven. Zacchaeus returned 4 fold etc 12:01 he corrects it somewhat here in fairness 15:45 he balances it out here

[@seabreeze4559]

and men get vasectomies

[@candacethorbourne3424]

You give good teachings Mark!! 👍👍

[@ThatOneAlbinoMofo]

The husbands of the Samaritan woman are directly quoted by Christ, she is told to turn from her sinful lifestyle-but was "married " and yet was with someone who isn't his wife Intentions, matter...it's not that an act of sex marries you- it's the desire to possess someone's flesh vs desire for pleasure

[@njerilucy2769]

Thanks for the summary mark

[@lauratempestini5719]

It is explicitly stated with Isaac and Rebecca, also Jacob, Leah, and Rachel.

[@oreocarlton3343]

Finally a wise, godly comment! Sex is marriage and fornication means perversion not sex before marriage which is impossible

[@FollowingJesus_-]

False my friend Abrahams servant went to Rebekah’s father asked the father and mother about marriage between issac they agreed the servant paid the dowry. We only get a small clip of story in the Bible but believe Jesus was at a marriage read John 2. Please be careful with relying on your on insight there are many verses in the Bible specifically in 2 Samuel telling how Joabs daughter was defiled even Tamar was defiled by her own brother not married.

[@oreocarlton3343]

@@FollowingJesus_- Jacob was promised Rebecca, but in God's eyes marriage was with Leah since he first had sex with her

[@FollowingJesus_-]

@@oreocarlton3343 yes friend he was promised Rachel as you see in the Old Testament the father was allowed to give the daughter away in marriage. It’s important to pray about these matters because if it’s sin the Holy Spirit will convict the believer. I’m nobody I just want believers to be cautious because the flesh is deceptive. Have a blessed night

[@oreocarlton3343]

@@FollowingJesus_- point is that his first wife is Leah despite father promising Rachel

[@zonedoutentertainment4778]

By Grace, By Faith, and By KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS. Why do people always leave that part out? In revelation it says, Here are the patience of the saints, here are they that have the faith in Christ and keep the commandments. That’s the last book of the Bible, revealing stuff to you. Please try to keep the ones that can be kept.

[@seabreeze4559]

adulteration is about bloodlines

[@alchemyofcolorandstyle]

Re:1 , sex doesn’t make you married, but cohabiting as a man and woman would, in Jewish tradition at Jesus’s time. This had a social connotation that implied intentionality: the same intentionality that marriage has to have in order to be right in God’s eyes (as Pastor Mark explains in the next points 👍🏻)

[@cbtam4333]

Actually a betrothed Jewish couple at the time of Jesus who began cohabitating were already legally married by contract. The legal marriage took place about a year before the wedding feast and consummation.

[@seabreeze4559]

yep but americans are in denial about this stuff, and Jacob and Leah being together physically meaning marriage

[@seabreeze4559]

@@cbtam4333 how? where can I read more about this?

[@jasminewatlington5763]

Are rings and living together not enough public expression?

[@cvally4313]

Can a couple get married before a preacher of a church amongst family and friends without going through the court? What would be the differences or similarities of marriage at church vs in a court of law?

[@oreocarlton3343]

Yes, Rebecca and Isaac Jacob and Leah, sex is marriage

[@ecolefoyer174]

​@@oreocarlton3343 No, sex before marriage is fornication.

[@oreocarlton3343]

@@ecolefoyer174 there is no sex before marriage, according to the Bible sex is marriage. Jacob was married first with Leah because he had sex with Leah.

[@jeremiahchapman9288]

​@@oreocarlton3343there is sex before marriage. it is regulated by the bible in Leviticus. after having had sex with an unmarried woman, her father has the right to deny him from marrying his daughter and also the right to force him to marry his daughter. that should be sufficient proof that sex alone is not marriage.

[@oreocarlton3343]

@@jeremiahchapman9288 father has the right to deny them living together, yes. But in the eyes of God they have become one body and if he or she has sex with another while the first one is alive he or she is committing adultery.

[@nona0442]

Where in bible does God require a public ceremony foe marriage? The examples u give are all cultural. I think u are mixing culture in biblical times w what God actually requires

[@Whoknows12334]

What if you live on a silk and with no pastor to marry you ? In this case can’t you just pray before the lord

[@vanessaann680]

what about when the family around u are pharisees and the person who was going to marry u turns at the last min, starts manipulating both bride and groom, asking for more favors in order to marry them? Can persecution happen at the same time when ur tying to get married? when ur convicted not to go thru the govt bc of how wicked it has become, and in that particular circumstance u had to say your vows before God at that time, and make it public after, does it count? We have prayed to find a pastor who will marry us in a church without govt. (I should mention, in our situation God told both of us separately that this is ur husband/wife in 2018 and we have held onto that for yrs and it only produced good fruit and we lead each other closer to God but when we tried coming together in offical public ceremony we got persecution.) Would like to know honestly, did God honor those vows in prayer when it seemed like we were in the middle of a huge spiritual storm? There was an abundance of peace in the midst of it and I have felt that God heard us and made a way when there was no way at that time. Feelings can be deceitful tho. As of recently we have heard of someone who would marry us in a diff state and we will go with it if God allows it to work out. I'm just asking if God would have honored what we said and prayed back then? I pray a lot and it seems that I get confirmation that He's with us I just don't want any lying signs or wonders either .

[@justinchamberlain3443]

6:20 You have absolutely zero proof texts for this; only indirect customs expressed biblically but in no way is there a direct command biblically which makes your definition of an invalid marriage completely and soundly erroneous & nonsensical. You've lived very likely a comfortable and pollyannish type of life which is apparently the lens w/ which you eisegete you're misapplied texts thru. *When dealing w/ those who have lived terrible lives, unlike yours, where their has been generational severe poverty, generationally passed down habitual reinforcements of prostitution, drug abuse, and the like there very well may be not "community" or friends to witness such a marriage service and nor is biblically required anywhere in scripture. So your improperly imposing your pollyannish religious presuppositions upon misapplied proof texts. The minister officiating the wedding would be witness enough and their covenant is verified and witness before God.*

[@johannwilder1437]

Nice job of giving people an excuse for having casual sex. Your interpretation of Exodus 22 is the exact opposite of what it means. It says if you have sex with a virgin you must marry her. Meaning you must stay with her. Your whole point seems to obfuscate the reality that God sees no distinction between sex and marriage. You mentioned that the word fornication exists because it’s possible to have sex and not be married-but that’s missing the point. The point is that when you have sex, you SHOULD be married. The conclusion is that you must stay with someone you have sex with and that you shouldn’t have sex unless you intend to stay together to begin with. Sadly, your video will continue to make worldly Christians feel like they can have sex and it’s okay. Be careful what you’re teaching.

[@AmericanDreamer]

what about bf/gf who genuinely love each other, are living together, having sex but gradually coming to belief to God of the Bible and wanting to do things right aka in His way...? In my understanding, they should definitely stop having sex...maybe even start to live in separate houses...What would be your input here?And if they keep clean sexually and confess to God this genuinely, and have their hearts to obey Him, would that be OK (= acceptable by God) to get married properly ? Or they should never see each other again?

[@AmericanDreamer]

and yes, there are many false prophets out there, using scripture to actually pull people in the sin.,,,just like satan in wilderness was trying to seduce and trick Jesus all while using Bible verses....his servants are truly no different...

[@cbtam4333]

The man in Exodus 22 has a duty to pay the bride price for virgins and marry her, but she is not required to marry him-her father can refuse and still keep the virgin bride price. This would seem to indicate that sex is not marriage, because it allows the woman to marry someone else and her father to be compensated for not being able to receive the substantially higher bride price for virgins when she does.

[@seabreeze4559]

americans always lie about what counts

[@seabreeze4559]

@@AmericanDreamer they live as pagans, boyfriend and girlfriend are postmodern free love SATANIC constructs, identifying as something means nothing "many will say O Lord but I will say I never knew Ye"

[@TimGun87]

I don't understand your points when considering Laban, Jacob, Leah, and Rachel. In this biblical account, Jacob works for Laban for 7 years to get Rachels's hand in marriage and does so, but after their wedding feast Laban substitutes Leah for Rachen in drunken Jacobs's bed, they have sex and now Leah is Jacobs wife, not Rachel, this is even more poignant because if Jacob and Rachel were married based on a ceremony and not sex, then Jacob and Leah would both be adulterers, and the punishment for this would being stoning to death, yet they werent because they were married. Based on the sctiptures you reference it seems more like biblical marriage is indeed sex alone, but the issue is that once a man and woman have sex(outside of rape and incest which are condemned as acts of sexual deviancy) they then need to consider themselves married and act accordingly and inform the community as such, and the sin comes from not doing this(having sex and not considering youself married and informing the community, such as with prostitution), which coincides well with the ancient definition of fornication, which doesn't really reference sex before marriage but rather any and all sexual deviancy including adultery, which makes sense since a lot of the same words translated to fornication in Heberw and Greek also point to them being words used for spiritual fornication or Idolatry of which sex inside, out, before, or after marriage as no place since in this instance it is entirely a spiritual thing rather than physical. modern marriage ceremonies seem more like they were developed as a way to address all this in one go, rather than to take away sex as marriage, and then the truth got lost in the weeds of time. since if you look at modern marriage it crosses all the "T"s and dots all the "I"s so to speak in following scriputre on how to properly conduct oneself in regards to being married. that being its in front of the community, everyone(including the bride and groom) acknowledges the two are together now, and then you have the ring to make sure it's not a secret from anyone, and then the actual marriage is when the couple has sex. and as far as I know this is exactly how it is in catholicism, that being that even with the ceremony and everything, a couple is not married without the couple's consummation of the marriage(except in specific cercomstances)

[@oreocarlton3343]

Amen amen amen, he skipped that crucial story to keep that stupid worldly definition of marriage. Leah was Jacob's first wife and there are no accounts that Jacob was drunk, they had no lights in tents in those days

[@seabreeze4559]

true, which circumstances?

[@seabreeze4559]

what about the pressure to marry a man who commits grape? if it's deviancy why is that pressure there? all penetration seems to count

[@EbonySoldier77]

This makes so much more sense since seeing this.

[@kevinmac8629]

So worship and services can change with the times. Then why didn't they change for 1500 years? Why wasn't the Church keeping up with the trends?

[@TheKingsComingAlefTav]

Where was the public vow between Adam and Eve You're adding to the scripture

[@Calvin-fy8dw]

Why is there so scriptures that back up your points?

[@nicolabanda2231]

Thank you so much for this ❤

[@jewishbride5010]

Praise God for breaking every yoke that is not beneficial for my life, divine purposes and calling! In accordance with this word and romans 13:1-7, 2 corinthians 6:14-18 I bind to hell every demonic marriage in my life that is not legitimate in God his eyes, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah, glory to God ❤!

[@lavenderandgold8588]

Then can someone clarify the woman at the well verse? Where Jesus told her she has 5 husbands?

[@seabreeze4559]

good point

[@sirenamontreala.k.aelibatt4699]

Great video rlly helpful God bless 🙏🧡