Aprilia Tuareg 660 | 6 Month Review / Audience Q&A (EP.7)

[@BigRockMoto]

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[@cliftonsr]

Hey Ian you might try a 17 tooth front sprocket which works perfect because the 17 tooth front sprocket is what the RS 660 uses, which the Tuareg has a lower 1st gear, and also has exactly the same front sprocket engine guard for both engines and it doesn't seem to effect engine performance and I weigh 265lbs and this 660 engine torque comes on so soon from idle and up and it just does not want to stall the 270 crank of this engine is remarkably so smooth, and I have the 2023 890 Adventure and it stalls out a lot easier than the Tuareg at low speed technical trail riding, even now when I run the 17 tooth on the Tuareg, and the fuss about wanting a little taller 6th gear issue is solved. And I can't find any reason for to sell my Tuareg 660 either. Both the KTM 890 and Tuareg 660 are so good in their own way one is such a hoot of hooliganism that is great on the twisties and easily maneuverable off road and the other is just so playful and agile that is a confident inspiring riding experience I'm holding on to both for now! Love your videos Ian!

[@AlbertManiscalco]

thanks for your break down on reliability being 90% perception. So often people express ethnic bias when talking about reliability. old perceptions are just that, old perceptions and biased anecdotes...

[@Ritalie]

31:00. Love the answers to the questions, great video! I'm watching it in stages, because it covers so much more than a normal motorcycle review. This is the "Unicorn." I am glad you said that, because I knew from the moment I saw the specs on paper, and saw the initial reviews, that it was the bike we have all been waiting for. In the U.S., they have given people large single cylinder dirtbikes and enduros, and not many offerings. On the street, they have given consumers about 20 different engine configurations to choose from. But when it came to enduros, there was no way to purchase an 80 horsepower enduro, because it didn't exist. It doesn't make sense why it took so long for a manufacturer to put an 80 horsepower streetbike engine on a large dirtbike, because the basic principle is very simple. Make a lightweight enduro have a more "road worthy" engine. Making a single cylinder bike bigger, with a bigger piston, is not a valid solution (see KLR650). The Tuareg is such an awesome engine, chassis combination, and it's the perfect size to be practical.

[@noahjpacifico]

Could you recommend a pair of 80/20 on road off road tires for this bike?

[@marcospeguero5354]

you need to take out the shift lever bolt and clean regrese, also in aliexpress sell a axis trans holder that (makes a bit of sense but it works) cost 30usd max, and helps the presicion, also change your oil, yes, changed mine at 700, 1500... Im a certified Aprilia for the 660 engines, and runed a Aprilia dealer for 2 years and own one.. and love the bike.

[@jfh4270]

this series should get an award for quality and the level of detail that has gone into this review. Great info, well done and highly enjoyable to watch - very natural and well put together. Loved it. This may be my next bike!

[@bpatinas1578]

He gets awards in payments from KZbin

[@caramoto2868]

Hi, I have the Tuareg too, I’ve done 10k over 12month, 90% on road. I have to say, this is an awesome bike for my taste. Good engine (no vibration, good torque, ok power, good feeling, good sound). Suspension are too soft with factory settings. Fortunately, you have full control over them. After testing, I have found my good settings for on road (which seem to translate good off-road) and I am really pleased now. Confort overall is good. Not too high for me (way better than the t7). The only meh is the windscreen ; I had to add the same add on screen as yours, and now it’s very good. Cruise control ftw !!! Factory pegs are large and good. Front brake is really good, strong enough with good feeling. Being a bike with long suspension, you need to know how to brake properly to avoid strong movement on the front suspension. Rear brake pedal is a bit low when standing up, even with the highest settings (than can be changed easily with 2 screws). Might need to buy something to make it higher. Oem tires (Pirelli rally str) are incredible on road, rear tires last me 9000km while driving quite dynamically and strong throttle. They are ok off-road (for my noob level). I paid 280€ for the 10k km checkup in France. Aprilia crashbars are good enough, the skid plate may need to be replaced if you do more off-road as it does not protect the motor enough just behind the front wheel, and the water pump is exposed in case of crash. Bonus : I have tested the tuono 660. Despite being the same engine, this is really not comparable. The tuono engine feel more sporty and more powerful above 5000rev. Suspensions are obviously harder too, and the brakes are phenomenal. But I much prefer the Tuareg for the confort, the overall performance available and the fact that it’s more all rounder than the tuono. There’s more to say but this sums up good my feeling about the Tuareg. Cheers.

[@Degio207]

For the rear brake pedal, try unscrewing it and flipping it upside down, that should raise it enough, I’ve seen it in a review 😅

[@caramoto2868]

@@Degio207thanks, but I already flipped it, and even then, it’s not enough (for me at least).

[@Xpir]

Hi, how about travel with a pillion rider. It’s a confortable bike.

[@Ritalie]

I wrote a long comment explaining why looks are important but accidentally hit delete. But the KTM 890 is SO ugly. The Tuareg looks awesome in comparison. The Tuareg is sleek and lightweight looking, and doesn't have those hideous bulbous fuel tanks on the sides like the KTM. I like the Yamaha Tenere 700 the best, in terms of looks, the very best looking bike of all the bikes in the world is the Triumph Tiger 880. But they ruined the Triumph with the awful straight plane, piece of SHITE crankshaft and the "coarse" running and vibration that the flat plane (awful) crankshaft provides, as well as no longer having the beautiful high pitched inline 6 cylinder sound, but now a more ruffled and rough misfiring 4 cylinder sound. I can't wait for the "flat plane" crankshaft era to end, SWIFTLY, and never return. No bike in the 1980's sounds as bad as some of the flat plane crankshaft engines being made today. It's unacceptable that consumers will buy these awful sounding bikes, they need to vote with their wallet, and stop supporting bad engineering choices.

[@ChaosAI24]

Would you do Europe in Tuareg, say Greece to Norway?

[@christophemontheil4933]

Thank you Ian for all these Video's about the Tuareg. I recently sold my T7 because most of time i'm offroad and i am only 176cm tall so i couldn't bear the top heavy feeling anymore. So i tried a Tuareg and bought it. Congratulations for all your work on your channel. Cheers from France

[@BigRockMoto]

thanks!

[@PatchedBandit]

I'm considering doing the same thing for the same exact reason..

[@jesper98]

Hi Ian, any plans for an extended review of the new Himalayan 452?

[@joshdoddadbod]

I'm sure he will get one. All glowing reviews so far so it should be good. ​@@jesper98

[@MeerkatADV]

I am hugely impressed by what Aprilia pulled off with this bike. It is an incredible accomplishment and fantastic bike. As you said, reliability is pretty much the only remaining question about it, but the indications are favorable. If I was in the market for a bike it would be a front-runner, but my T7 continues to check every box I need and run like a Swiss watch. The mid size renaissance we're experiencing now is so much fun to watch.

[@BigRockMoto]

with the miles you put on, the yamaha is probably your best bet

[@DearMajesty]

It's not a question, it sucks with regards to reliability. I have two 660's. They don't hold valve clearances well and have numerous other issues.

[@MeerkatADV]

@drippinblood28 that's unfortunate but not surprising. I haven't heard too many complaints from Tuareg owners, but at the end of the day it's an Italian bike.

[@nicerides9224]

I can't speak for this bike but my Shiver 750 has done about 120K+ km with minimal dramas. So reliability from Aprilia for me has been impressive. If I were to be caught up in the adventure bike craze the Tuareg would be the first place I'd look. I don't really like the look of any of them but the big GS looks ok but is way too heavy for me to consider taking off road. The Tuareg looks way more suitable in that department being much lighter.

[@DearMajesty]

@@nicerides9224 the 750 v-twin has generally been very reliable interestingly

[@philipbarton2634]

I am coming off of many years on a KLR and was very ready to move on to something more. I looked at the Tenere, Tuareg, KTM 790. 1) I bought a Tuareg based on your video series. 2) I am buying Giant Loop based on your selection. You do an amazing job, are a true motorcycle influencer, people are spending real money based on your recommendations. I just hope advertisers see this comment.

[@sschwart]

I have had one for 8 months now, and at 4,500 miles had zero issues (stock tires have about 500 miles left but it really depends on your riding style). Sold my GSA and have a few more bikes in my garage (Yamaha 900 XSR, Honda CRF 450 L), and can say with complete confidence this is my favorite by a long shot. Handles like a sports bike on the street, and got me out of a world of trouble on gnarly off-road trails. I am lucky to be in Austin with an awesome dealer nearby (AF1 Racing) and so far the ownership has been a dream. I am also watching folks from Europe with upwards of 20 K miles that report zero issues.

[@MrPmyche]

Regarding neutral - When the tech did my walkthrough at purchase he said to use engine braking as much as possible during run-in, claiming it would solve the neutral problem a lot of people were having. He was right. Neutral became easier and easier to find over the course of run-in, and now it's as easy as any Honda or Yamaha I've owned. So for anyone looking to pick up a Tuareg, that's just me sharing my experience for what it's worth. YMMV. I love my Tuareg! And thanks for another great video!

[@IAmYourReflection]

Does this mean it should also be turned to max engine breaking in the settings?

[@oakdalegirl57]

Finding neutral on mine (quickshifter installed) has been a non issue. Could easily find neutral from the start.

[@pdarjan]

You are among the most competent motorcycle journalists out there. Thank you for your insightful reviews

[@triprack]

Install a 5" taller Puig 5" windscreen ($150 at AF1), Motoz Tractionator rear, Motoz Dual Venture front, Zumo XT and you are set. Mine rides like a dream...

[@victorbw]

thats neat BigRockMoto that you convert the imperial values into metric (SI)! we from outside of the US appreciate that! and btw: is there any chance you're going to check the new suzuki v-strom 800DE?

[@BigRockMoto]

yes! coming soon

[@jaygmiata1833]

@@BigRockMoto also the 2023 790 adventure would be great :)

[@sspirito3130]

Aprilia is probably the most underrated brand out there. Aprilia has always produced top quality bikes, whether you are looking at the latest models or bikes from 30 years ago, they were always one step ahead of their Japanese counterparts. They invest a tonne of money in racing and R&D, but for some reason they don’t sell well.

[@chai1116]

That’s piaggio marketing tactics for you

[@fs5866]

Because they don't have the price competitiveness and reliability of a Japanese, it's an Italian brand, they're known for power and being expensive.

[@galehess6676]

LOL. Trolls are out? Or is this an Italian bot? These bikes are not on par with the best, not by a long shot. The engineering is awesome, the build quality is garbage.

[@sspirito3130]

@@galehess6676 If you've owned an Aprilia before, when you examine closely, those bikes are entirely built with top shelf components. I'm unsure where you're observing the 'garbage build quality.' Most people think Aprilia is a cheap minor brand. It is not; it's an underrated brand. Even in MotoGP, they manage to stay ahead of Honda and Yamaha with a significantly smaller budget. It's impressive

[@galehess6676]

@@sspirito3130 I sure hope so, they are so close to being the real deal. Seems engineering is phenomenal, but the amount of bolts not properly torqued/ spokes, and problems, is more than I am used to with my Japanese ADV/Suz VStrom 650XT (spokes/tubeless).

[@chukku2175]

I have ridden my Tuareg for 8200km now and I absolutely love it! It really is a jack of all trades bike... I can do long trips with my wife on the back and I can rev the shit out of it on swiss mountain roads while scraping the footpegs in the corners and I can ride hard offroad single trails. The fact that all of this is possible with a single motorcycle is nothing short of amazing!

[@BigRockMoto]

agree!

[@kapicic011]

Aprilia is very respected here in Europe. We love their scooters and motorcycles. Pegasus was one of most sold motorcycle. Overall, they are very reliable, good quality.

[@michaelvollmer9491]

To all other bikers or in motorbikes interested people. I surely recommend to subscribe to this channel. Even as a European ( which I am proud to be !) I watch the review’s of this channel. It is the only channel which gives an all around comparison of different types of motorbikes. Technically 100% correct, deep looks into the tested bikes, personal impressions and all the other things that gives me a honest review. Cheers and always ride safe 👍🇩🇪😎

[@seandeterman2499]

I've been watching and subscribed for a while now. I 100% agree 👍

[@RobinTorrekensTravelVlog]

4:00 Thanks for the metric system! Great video!

[@kerrylawless8163]

Phenomenal episode Ian. Your depth of honesty, detail and real world experience are beyond anything else I've seen on KZbin. I really admire how you go about your work, and I know it's a lot of work. The fact that you clearly love what you do while remaining so honest elevates you beyond anyone else. Keep doing what you're doing, you're a gem.❤

[@BigRockMoto]

wow, thank you! this means a lot and helps keep me going!

[@johnwiffen6655]

From England. You are so lucky to be able to ride off road so easily. We have very little space in England. I purchased a Tuareg this Sept.

[@krism3771]

thanks for putting l/100 and km for most of us

[@marnienrichaaron5813]

Your answer to the dirt noob was spot on. The way you explained your answer was awesome. To many people get pushed into bikes that are bigger than their current abilities, they will learn more and faster on a smaller bike. Once they gain some experience then can decide what kind of larger bike they need for their riding. Great content as usual😀

[@BigRockMoto]

thanks!

[@lifesjourneyat50]

Ian - You are Spot on for all your points...Since I sold mine recently this bike was a solid bike - The dealer network didn't work for me...min 120miles. As usual outstanding!!!...Keep it up!!!!

[@IAmYourReflection]

What did you replace it with?

[@lifesjourneyat50]

@@IAmYourReflection the 2023 KTM 890 R....

[@IAmYourReflection]

@@lifesjourneyat50 does it feel much lighter than the Tuareg with its low center of gravity?

[@mattmccourt3591]

@@IAmYourReflection No not really...the 660 sits lower as the 890 R is TALL plus the 660 is about 20/25lbs lighter - you can check out my review of the two....they are both great bikes...

[@asamacres]

4,400 miles and zero issues on my Tuareg. My dad has the HD PanAm, and the KLR, both have had warranty repairs. All bikes are 2022 models.

[@toddpillow3074]

Excellent discussion of really all the important topics. I’ve watched you for quite a while and feel that your comments and summaries have gotten really good. Please keep up the good work and I’ll keep following along. 😊😊😊 And hell yes you’ve piqued my interest in this bike. Of course I already like Euro bikes and Italian bikes in particular. I was excited about the T7 until hearing so much about it being top heavy and mediocre suspension but this bike might be for me as I’m only 5’7”. I really admire Yamaha reliability and durability.

[@marcmonreal1376]

Nice review as always Sir. Your comments and thoughts mimic mine. Having a Tuareg as well has been bringing me smiles for miles. Thanks again for all you do.

[@craiggillphotography8030]

Love to see a comparison between this and a KTM 890. I think they would be on a lot of people short lists.

[@kawabungah20]

Big Rock Moto is an amazing resource: Taking in the entire Tuareg 660 Review Series, I will have complete confidence in purchasing this machine after a test ride. You've provided amazing information for shoppers and riders.

[@4billoyd]

Thank you for the comments regarding reliability. You didn’t blow smoke you just gave a very straight forward assessment. Each of us (unfortunately) need to do our own research! Owner forums, FB groups etc will reveal themselves given time.

[@andrewstock]

Thanks Ian. Great review. I have been watching the Tuareg closely and nearly bought one last year, but couldn't test ride one because of stock issues etc. I'm glad you bought one and are testing it for us because there is not a lot of information out there. I love your reviews, you cover it all. Well done. Keep up the good work mate

[@jospoz619]

I had a similar issue were the dealer had two for me to test ride but both had dead battery and had to wait 3 month to get batteries send to the dealer by Aprilia to test ride. That turned me off to get the Tuareg.

[@jacquesblackburn7329]

I realy appreciate your review, it is clever as your answers. The best reviews for someone looking to buy a motorcycle better than many professionnals journalists. Keep on doing your good job.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks

[@yveslaurier950]

I have a Tuareg, and mine is quite "buzzy" around 4000 to 5500 RPM. My hands get numb from the vibration, and the footpegs also vibrate a lot. Also, in Canada, the manufacturer warranty is 2 years, unlimited mileage.

[@beppebb4969]

Someone with same issue, solve changing the tires.

[@chadkline4268]

I REALLY appreciate your review of basic servicing 😊😊😊 you've truly become a pro with your reviews. Lots of intelligence and effort behind it all. I remember you said you had some chronic health issues once, and I want to wish you good health 👍

[@makmoto0606]

THANK YOU! For talking about how reliability for the most part is just a warm blanket for people to make themselves feel good and has very little empirical substance. Some how all the Japanese dealerships have service centers attached to them and yet they'll run without oil for a decade, and you can fix it with a rock. Thank you!

[@duncanorr5926]

Im planning a round the world trip and Im seriously considering this machine. My honest view is someone in mongolia is going to have as much of a confused expression looking at a T7 as looking at this lol. Ill see what reliability is looking like in a year or two. Great vid as always 👍

[@LG-th8xt]

After testing this engine, I gave up on it because of the engine heating. It is recommended to specify engine heating at every engine test, as important as engine power.

[@robt8263]

This is best mid adventure adventure bike comparison I have seen giving a good over view of bikes from different manufactures. I now have and idea the strengths of each bike for my intended use I like the Tuareg but they are expensive in Australia being $2,500 above the T7 and almost the same as a KTM 890. In my experience Aprilia are beautifully made but parts are hard to obtain.

[@DavidSmith-jj5pr]

just an aside, I routinely cat delete primarily to reduce heat, not for a power gain. great video, thanks!

[@dylansheldon4913]

I also noticed finding neutral was more difficult after adding the quickshifter. Prior, no issues at all, after, just a bit tricky sometimes.

[@DadCanFixAnything]

That improves with break-in.

[@robertsupski687]

Thanks to you I bought this bike, it was a great choice. The bike is better than I expected.

[@Borderbill1962]

I love your videos. Your Aprilia Tuareg videos and assessments of the bike had a big influence in me deciding to trade in my 2022 KLR adventure which was just okay and get a 2023 Tuareg. Part of the decision was also that I moved to a new residence within 15 miles of an Aprilia dealer. The KLR was good for me initially, returning to riding after a 20 year absence. The Tuareg is a totally different bike and really woke an excitement within me to ride a lot more and start longer adventure rides. Going to my first adventure bike group rally ride sponsored by the local BMW adventure group here in the midwest. This bike actually is fun to ride, unlike my KLR I actually don't mind riding at 75-80 mph on the interstate. Your videos were a big influence in me deciding to get this bike and reawakening an excitement to riding motorcycles after 30 years before returning to riding.

[@spadac4543]

Thanks for answering my question! Good to know. You're really tempting me to get this instead of the Tenere.

[@urbanadventurer5]

This is hands down one of the very best review videos I have ever seen. Thank you for the insight and info! 👍🏾 Still intrigued by the Tuareg but not ready to move on from my Kawi just yet and may just add an enduro and call it a day. FWIW to folks, the 690 felt huge for me at 5’6” w/ a 29” inseam. It was really difficult for me to get even one foot down comfortably. The Tuareg with the low seat fit pretty well in comparison. I could get both feet down some and one foot down really comfortably. There is a significant difference in weight like you said though.

[@InternetzVideoz]

I applaud your balence of details, comparisons, opinion, and optional bikes. It helps me understand how the bike will ride, and define the type of ride that I want.

[@BigRockMoto]

thank you, glad to know

[@Theevolone56]

Never thought anyone could do the level of reviews you provide. You consistently excel smc leave no aspect uncovered. Rw

[@guzzidelgado]

THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO SERIES !!

[@jasonrobertson5582]

I use longhaulpaul as my measurements on yamaha reliability. He does mostly hwy but runtime is runtime.

[@thedeathguy2]

As a Tuareg owner another con I would add to top the list is THE SHIFTER! The shifter sticks out too far, made of cast aluminum so it doesn't bend well and the force when hit breaks the pivot bolt almost every time. When it breaks the threads are stuck in the bike you cant get then out unless you have a drill which is awful when out on a ride. they need a way to put it further in.

[@andrewpeter6128]

A synopsis of concerns with associated “solutions”; did I miss any? -windscreen buffeting: change windscreen or add visor -hot exhaust: remove CC and remap fueling -loose spokes: evaluate wheels and adjust tension as necessary -leaking gaskets: check torque values on all bolts early and often, consider ester oil for a touch of seal swelling What did I miss?

[@Ritalie]

2:08! I knew it had to be good! As soon as I saw the Tuareg 660 for the first time, I was like, WELL that's the bike that Kawasaki should have built 25 years ago, a KLR660R parallel twin edition. It's simple. Put a 70 horsepower parallel twin, on a dirtbike. SIMPLE formula. It's not complicated. This should have been built, a long, long time ago. Why have the U.S. customers had no options for powerful enduros until recently? We've been able to buy a Hayabusa for 25 years, but the "flagship" enduro by the same company, the DR650, had an air cooled engine with 35 rear wheel horsepower? The DR650 is actually the fastest enduro we've been able to buy for decades now.

[@ridersforransom9545]

Really like the audience Q&A. I've been really curious about this bike for when my brother gets in the market for a new one.

[@danketchpel7460]

Good job Ian, I'd 100% agree with your assessment. On the finding neutral, it's all about having a pretty tight cable adjustment on the clutch because of the lever ratios there's not enough travel at the clutch end to get a good disengagement. Adjust it up as tight as you can leaving only the bare minimum of slack so it's not dead tight. The last bit makes a difference. This is one area Aprilia kinda messed up. The other problem is the foot lever ratio is not ideal, it's geared towards a shorter travel and increases the problem. I've changed the lever length at the engine to change the ratio for more leverage/lever travel and it makes a difference. I also suspect this clutch is a bit sensitive to which oil is used. IMO high beam sux, low beam is decent but the beam cutoff is dramatic and you are blind dipping into corners at night. I found it imperative to add aux lights if you ride at night much, a first for me. But ya, it's as close to a unicorn bike as I've yet to ride or own. And the more you ride it the better it gets.

[@glennwr450]

I hear you on the looks, I prefer the look of the Tenere

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

T7 ain’t no beauty pageant winner 🤣🙄

[@john7Doe9]

Very well done. I hope you can lay your hands soon on the new Honda Transalp and Suzuki V-Strom 800. Two more interesting competitors in the mid-size range. I know you have a young kid and probably not enough time but I would really appreciate to see some travelling videos from time to time, especially because you live in the south-west. Greetings from KTM-Homeland

[@BigRockMoto]

v-strom 800 coming soon

[@alozborne]

For the newbie mentioned in the video at 23:08, consider a Honda CB500X as your first ADV bike. It's pretty nimble both on and off road and it has enough power to have fun without getting you into too much trouble off-road. Even better, buy an older 2 stroke dirt bike (street legal, no more than 250cc) to learn on for a few months. In retrospect, I should have done that but instead bought a 2022 CB500X right away so the learning curve for off-roading was a little harder than it needed to be. Still a work in progress, but I'm getting there :-)

[@c450-v2b]

I propose a safety lever, over the left handlebar, but hard to reach, to put manual transmission in neutral. For distracted people like myself. Click! Done.

[@Mycatz]

I really like this bike. My klx300 is great. Happy I got it. But once I get more experience this or the Tenere 700 are my top choices. I like the looks of the Aprillia a bit more and cruise control is a huge plus. Wish I had a dealership near me. The fact that this has a lower center of gravity is also a big plus. My klx300 is just a little to slow to have fun commuting and the small gas tank sucks.

[@pinnacleroofing9841]

I own the same color scheme Taureg and I love the way it looks. Ya, it's a completely personal thing

[@SethJayson]

Nice roundup. As it's impossible to find a CRF300l Rally these days (my reservation got moved from May to September, lol) I was considering this as the 'moving up the scale' bike for 50/50 riding. The dealer network and the fact that you have to bring it in (and pay) to turn off nag lights was what did me in. I ended up going a different route entirely and getting a much less offroad-capable bike because any issues with this thing and I'd have had a 3 hour drive to deal with it. And that's better than most folks in the midwest USA. The demand for these is still pretty decent so dealers were also tacking on a decent number of those junk fees on top of pretty high freight.. The new bike I ended up buying, the dealer didn't even charge the OEM-suggested freight. No setup or doc. Just list, tax, registration fees.

[@lukefish7562]

Well, what’d you get? 😀

[@SethJayson]

@@lukefish7562 I grabbed a Honda NC750x DCT. I'll be missing out on the traily end of things, but in return, I get a pretty relaxed machine with room for groceries. The Tuareg may also have been a bit too exciting for me, so the more boring bike appeals. Returning rider after years, so I think it will be a decent pick. If for some reason I need to scratch that offroad itch, I guess I can grab a simpler dual sport and/or think about a Tuareg a couple years down the road when we know more. I have a Honda dealer just down the road, but from what I've seen, anyone can do a valve adjustment on the NC with that leaned engine.

[@Petesmotoadventure]

Another solid review. Thanks Ian.

[@mechcavandy986]

There’s no Aprilia dealers here in Arkansas. The closest is about 150 miles away in Tulsa. Looks? “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.”

[@mechcavandy986]

It weighs 30 lbs more than my 22 Norden. I’m gonna need a smaller bike one day, and I thought this would be it.

[@IAmYourReflection]

Tulsa’s not too far from me. I might have to start seriously considering this bike as an upgrade to my 17 Africa twin

[@IAmYourReflection]

@@mechcavandy986the norden probably feels quite a bit lighter with that low tank. Are is the fuel tank symmetrical on both sides or is it uneven like the 890?

[@RiseRyder]

I have no questions, because you answered all the ones I had.

[@ektalon1]

You do a great job. Straightforward advice and opinion. Thank you.

[@GRhightech]

Amazing to have your feedback after 6 months, I see many question about Tuareg vs 890 and the answer is very clear. For a more fair comparison, what your thought vs 790 adventure ?

[@damianapple]

Awesome review. Considering swopping my GS for this. Thanks.

[@BigRockMoto]

it feels SO much lighter than a GS

[@ThatGermanFella]

The Engine is not putting out the heat, it is the catalytic converter, which can be fixed with an aftermarket setup.

[@L5man]

Just from other videos: it has a 15 to 1 compression ratio. The biggest negative of all. Second, unreliability. I guess you got lucky. And third, one you mentioned, no dealers, no parts, no Aprilia for me! Thanks for your great videos.

[@WinifredMulvey]

Dude.. you are clueless…

[@pavelshchors]

Thanks for answering my question about comparison with KTM ! Looking forward to decide which bike I'll get in the end (I keep watching both ktm and aprilia for good deals)

[@patrickshoniker3268]

You’re spot on about the reliability issue…I just rode my T7 this past winter from Seattle to Ushuaia and I was in WhatsApp group with a few hundred other people also doing the trip. There were a lot of questions in this group about BMW GS parts or issues with sensors which had me thinking that they weren’t as reliable as Hondas and Yamahas. I got stuck at a border behind a group of GS riders and brought this up to them. A few of the people in the group had ridden 100,000+ miles on their GS’s with no issues and they said you only hear about the issues because 80% of the bikes doing those long trips are BMWs. Basically it’s all anecdotal.

[@BigRockMoto]

true!

[@endonutz]

i like the 890 lurking in the garage behind you...

[@briangc1972]

@16:52 Amazon sells the 26 mm sockets separately, no need to buy a set. $6

[@jt9327]

It has a 2 year warranty. I own both the 790 Adventure R and the Tuareg. I have 12k on the KTM and 5k on the Tuareg. The Tuareg is the better all around bike. No comparison. The suspension alone is miles ahead of the KTM. On and off road. The aerodynamics is another area where the Aprilia is miles ahead. Between the suspension and the aerodynamics a day on the KTM can be very tiring. I day on the Aprilia not so much. I have never gotten more than 47mpg with my Tuareg.

[@davidpoffenbarger3686]

I'm ready to move on from my AT and want an 890 badly. Unfortunately, I know me and the "quirks" of the 890 would drive me up the wall. Saw a Tuareg at Amanda's rally and like you, I think it's a close second.... close enough for serious consideration. It checks all the boxes I want over the AT, just not as well as the 890. You're input, as always, is very helpful Ian, keep it up. Thanks!

[@BlueberryFennec]

Thanks for highlighting the difference between anecdotal statements vs. quantifiable data. I see anecdotes being told as "the truth" far too often, when it really just is word of mouth. Humans are far too susceptible for all kinds of biases. We should be very careful in how we decide what's true/believable or false/not believable.

[@BigRockMoto]

so true!

[@juanramondiazcolodrero2603]

Muchas gracias por tus vídeos, explicativos sobre la Tuareg, soy un fans de esta moto, gracias saludos desde argentina 👍👍👍💪

[@SpeedracerNo9]

great job as usual Ian.

[@advmike]

Cruise control is a must-have for my next ADV bike. That and a few more CCs. 😉😎

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

Hello Ian, watched your videos, nicely done 👍 I rode both, T7 is a heavy 🐄! Like T7 low end, but not enough to change to buy one. Tuareg is on a whole different level. Better suspension, on the fly modes, comfort, turning, road handling. As a Yamaha owner, there is no comparison between these bikes. All you Yami people can kick rocks if you think it is 😂🤣

[@fredrik999z]

Great review and valuable points. The engine heat issue can probably be solved by changing muffler to let hot exhaust gas flow more freely, seems to be a common problem for Euro 5 classed bikes. In its price class there is not much competition but still not up there with KTM 890 and larger bikes in terms of touring capability and comfort. Will be interesting to see a comparison with the new Honda Transalp even though the Honda is more road focused.

[@galehess6676]

TA has less clearance and suspension is meh. Tuareg is iffy build quality. T7 is dependable and pretty darn good all around. We wish the Aprilia was reliable and better built, but wishing isn't going to get us anywhere.

[@fredrik999z]

@@galehess6676 Can you give example of iffy build quality on Tuareg? When I tested Tuareg and T7 side by side the Tuareg felt sturdier and more quality built then Yamaha with cheap flimsy plastic. Especially more thought out design solutions for exhaust pipe, air filter placement and dashboard it felt much more premium on Tuareg. Riding comfort is better and overall it's much easier to handle offroad with better suspension and lower center of gravity.

[@galehess6676]

I'd say the engineering is fantastic, next, next level. The fact Italy uses Chinese labor and who knows what else (tech, parts??) and the amount of improperly torqued spokes, engine bolts (leaking oil), snapping rear brake levers, other common, common issues, suggests it's not Japanese quality. A lot of people have no trouble (but only have ridden 3,000 or 10,000 miles on the road (so not the same vibrations/hits on the spokes, etc.). The sheer amount of electronics and not infrequent problems, are enough for me to have invested in links and fork extenders and emulators and springs (Cogent Dynamics) so I can keep the V-twin I love (Japanese). Best decision for me. Test road T7 (clunky trans, needs $1500 in suspension help), signed up for and paid down on Tuareg (changed mind), test road Tiger 900 Rally (too hot, slightly cheap brake resovoir, probably great bike, not light like the Tuareg). I'd get the Tua if I could stand working out potential bugs, re-torquing everything, etc. Fantastic machines.. mostly @@fredrik999z

[@marshall3498]

I enjoy your channel and your honest review opinion. I also enjoy your longer video style instead of a short and less detailed video like another channel. I'm very much looking forward to seeing episode 2 about 2023 ktm 890 adventure s.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

In Greece Tuareg has 4 year warranty which makes it very compelling as a new, or even as a used bike with 1 or 3 years of warranty left.

[@RidinDirty86]

Hi Ian. Thanks for this amazing review. Have you ever ridden a DR650? If so, can you compare the engine heat on your leg to the DR?

[@jibinraj6058]

Waiting for an episode 8 for a long term reliability data

[@rodrigotorrealba5062]

I have both bikes and use than both for off road with proper off road tyres. The T7 is a great bike but as you said the Aprilia is simply better in every department, specially the suspension, weight distribution and height. I am 1,70 meters, I am selling my T7.

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

Smart man 👍

[@Lhotse510]

Finding Neutral: I had this issue when I first got my 2023 Tuareg. Turned out it was clutch drag. I backed off the cable adjust at the clutch lever and it solved the problem completely. I do have a quick shifter. Quick Diagnosis: Turn the engine off but keep key on so you can see neutral light. If it pops into neutral easy when engine is not running (as mine did) but is impossible to find when it was running...its probably clutch drag. Google clutch drag. I absolutely love the T660! Only negative thing I have to say is that it is a little hot on the right leg in hot weather. I notice it most at stops and slow speeds. Over 45mph I don't really notice it. I suspect its the catalytic converter with strict Euro 5 emission specs. After warranty expires I will replace the headers with aftermarket. I'm coming from a 2014 BMW F800GS Adventure. The T660 is a massive upgrade! Very nimble, super smooth, light weight, suspension, it just does everything really well. I'm 5' 10" with a 30 inch inseam and can flat foot the bike. Only bike I have ever been able to "toe" backwards up a slight incline in a parking lot. If I were a female rider this would be at the top of my list. Easy to handling, comfortable seat, easy to push around on or off the bike, and easy to pick up. IMO you cannot find a better bike at this price point. Only weird glitch: sometimes my turn signal does not come on when cruise control is engaged. Great content...thanks Ian!

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

Well said 👏👏 When I test rode it, same exact experience.

[@bobz1736]

Nice review sir 👍 I'm surprised the 660 only had a one year warranty when two years is the norm and some have 3 or 4 years. Won't do a lot for resale value unless you stump up for the extended warranty...

[@jeroenstienstra1409]

Great review Ian. As you say, a 'brutal honest' one. Before I buy a bike or product I always check if you reviewed it. So, keep up the good work/reviews! I like the Tuareg. Especially the 2024 Dakar color scheme. It's not the regular duck in the pond, an odd one. However. Reliability, parts, dealerships and customer support are still issues for Italian brands, in particular Aprilia. I do own a Aprilia Tuono V4, it had some issues. I owned two Ducati Multistrada's which had issues. So, this makes me hesitate to buy the Tuareg 660. I rather keep my Honda Africa Twin 2017 without electronics that brings me wherever in the world I want, without any issues. I keep an eye on long term reviews about the Tuareg, because I do like this Italian.

[@Adventurous_noob]

My 5 pennies into the piggy bank regarding carrying capacity: I’m 67 kilograms when the socks aren’t fresh and before the morning toilet )) I keep the rear preload knob at the softest setting and the bike hardly sags at all when I get on. So plenty room to go.

[@Speedytrip]

Great review! And 100% agree on the looks, that front end is hard to look at…

[@KoHokCheung]

Tubeless tires, for me it is a winner.

[@ukaszusielski3606]

Heat is common problem novadays. Cut the catalityc converter and you feel the diference.

[@ukaszusielski3606]

i hear that in Triumph dealer when i test drive Scrambler 1200 XE. They say it, but official don't wannna know about it :D I think problem is with EURO5 compliance

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

It’s 💯% the problem! Uncork it & let it breath 😮‍💨

[@BrianCrafton]

Really good review and very helpful!!! Appreciate your work and guidance in being able to compare bikes to each other.

[@mrcreative6020]

KTM 790/890 also saved some weight by allowing the cams to significantly wear down even before 10,000 km😅

[@1young-geezer]

Ian - the hitting Neutral problem. I received my Tuareg a week or so ago. I couldn't hit N w/ the engine running either from 1st or 2nd to save my life. Bummed as you can imagine. My FIX: I spun the clutch adjuster at the bars counter clockwise, there was now negligible freeplay of the lever, if any. Of course "spinning the adjuster" is a misnomer, and in truth it's really a "twist and try" kind of thing, a ¼ to ½ a turn at a time. I've had BMWs w/ dry clutch and you better have an ⅛" play at the lever or else. But I'm thinking a wet clutch is different - or at least my problem was solved by heading in this opposite direction. Let me know if this works for you or even makes sense. I now have very few times the shift to N is wonky. I thought your review was great, watched you channel for a while now, and find it hard to fathom how you keep all these different rides in your head, amazing.

[@jamesdumas6602]

Add $1999.50 (Aprilia's Freight charge) to the raised MSRP for 2023 of $12,699 for a total of $14,699 plus about a $600 dealer setup fee, taxes, and registration etc. That's right! Aprilla charges $2000. freight to Florida. Might as well buy a KTM 890, dealer here quoted me $16,000 Out The Door.

[@Petesmotoadventure]

I noticed that as well.

[@gbner9991]

As a T7 rider I just wished it had the Aprilia's tubeless wheels. Tubes are such a hassle and at least here in EU where most ADV bikes spend 95% on the road tubeless would be the superior choice. I would say the vast majority of T7 riders here, me included, wouldn't be able to make a roadside repair to a punctured tube. Especially to the rear tire. Wheras with tubeless it would be an easy fix that's doable by basically anyone.

[@Motovibes91]

Just convert the rear wheel to tubeless. I also did this because of the difficulty of rear tube replacement (most of punctures happen at the rear tyre). Now all I need is a plug kit for the rear.

[@gbner9991]

@@Motovibes91 how did you convert them to tubeless? I was thinking to make the Bartubeless conversion @ the next tire change, but it's not exactly cheap

[@Motovibes91]

@@gbner9991 I send the rear wheel of my T7 to Italy for the Bartubeless conversion. They really did a great job sealing the wheel (I have a video on my channel)

[@stevematthis3199]

Your videos are excellent. Thanks for the work.

[@mart7404]

Nice review Ian and totally agree. I've gone through a fair amount of adventure bikes and ended with this one due to the inability to locate a T7. However, now I am very happy I purchased the Tuareg 660 instead. EXCEPT, parts. I've been waiting now for a fuel sensor module to come in from Aprilia for 6 months. I've got a dealer close by but they claim Aprilia never lets them know the status of parts shipping? Ridiculous. Hopefully this won't happen to yours but I hear it is a common issue. Fuel gauge continues to flash. My dealer tried updating software but it is the defective sensor that appears to be the issue. Other than that I love the bike. Heat is annoying but not terrible. High beam switch is in a stupid place and I always flick it on by accident.

[@BigRockMoto]

thanks for sharing, that is very frustrating about the fuel sensor!

[@PovilasPanavas]

there is another comment by Octav P. as reply to Jérôme Lévesque-Boucher comment which also says fuel gauge broke.

[@mart7404]

@@PovilasPanavas thank you. I appreciate the heads up.

[@mbtfp]

3:56 Daaaamn! I love the conversion into european stuff WE want to know!

[@duncanelliott5120]

Great review. Mine has exactly the same pros and cons as you say. Love your channel...that's why I bought the Aprilia!

[@teags603]

I think a high fender kit will make the front end look less awkward. I love my Tuareg! Its been the perfect swiss army bike for me.

[@NK-dl2nc]

A very appealing bike from a performance perspective. I had the option of one of these or my T7 world raid. The World raid won. It has much improved suspension over the standard T7 which probably closes the gap with the Aprilia. Don't want the electrical aids mainly from a long term reliability perspective. I want to keep this bike for many years and judging how electronics kill cars a few years in I am not willing to risk it especially with it being Italian. The aprilia looks horrible and I don't understand why they didn't go with a more retro or Rally raid look. As for KTM's, same concerns really. Awesome performing bikes but knowing people who work for the dealers they are not as reliable as the Yamaha. I chose the Labrador over the Greyhound 😂