APST MIKE HUMBLY JUMPED INTO THIS DEBATE BETWEEN APST AROME & ABEL DAMINA & SAID THIS SHOCKING THING

[@KennedyOriakhi]

It is a very clear matter. My conviction in Christ stands sure. Man can lose his salvation if he choses to live carelessly

[@chiagozieonyejivictor6952]

Thank you Apostle for bringing balance.

[@johnufot613]

I thank God for the depth of knowledge on his servant Apostle Mike .

[@andrewamahwe1901]

This is profound. Thank you Apostle Mike

[@RichardPannoh]

Oooo yes, As a Pastor, I'm so blessed by this teaching. God blessed you Man of GOD

[@JoelOsgoodFamily]

This is a very profound and balanced exposition. People are liberated by this Truth

[@chiagozieonyejivictor6952]

Wonderful balances to these debates. Thank you Apostle.

[@adebayoolalekan4832]

I like this teaching. Such a blessing to the body. We are blessed in Nigerian Church, we have good and anointed teachers. Praises to God!

[@EvansBoakye-eb5pw]

Herr Apostle Mike🫂, Our Father - Elohim has really made this man a blessing 💯💯💯

[@johnochigbo972]

Waoo, apostle these are good teachings remain blessed Sir.

[@OlanlokunabiodunEmmanuel]

Sir you balanced the equation you are such a blessing to us and to them that believed those teaching if they have time to hear this message very well, may God almighty continue to manifest himself through you more and more in Jesus name

[@GaiMakak]

❤❤❤❤ This is my soul, if I must choose, I can choose the one with cautions. Yes sir😂😂😂😂

[@josephuwakwe5760]

Thank you sir for the balance

[@kevinnugent4427]

if you do not overcome your name can be removed from the book of life

[@ArmandBibiang-hy3ll]

You’re a blessing for the Church around the World. Thank you so much.

[@EmekaJoshua-j8d]

Papa you are right

[@faithrukundo2112]

God is sovereign..we can never know everything about God in conclusion..He is the sovereign Lord..Pastor Michael has taught well.This is not about sides,men of God but the word.Remember and understand God's sovereignty

[@mikahel.m.i9217]

Splendid

[@kumfelix8951]

Thank you Apostle

[@onoriodeesiobise]

Thank you Apostle Michael Orokpo

[@jessedmis1570]

This matter is really simple. God will NEVER super impose on your free will. Even salvation with how important it is requires you to willingly accept the sacrifice of Jesus and believe in him. He doesn't force salvation on anyone. How then does it make sense that you lose your capacity to no longer follow Jesus? Of course Jesus is faithful and he'll hold his own side of the deal, but what about you? What if you feel this Jesus thing is not fun and you want to go back to the world? So all of a sudden, you lose your ability to go back? Paul said of Demas who was his follow missionary, that he left him and had gone back into the embrace of this present world. Conclusion: Jesus won't leave you, but you can decide to leave him by your words and actions.

[@WisdomDavid-x5r]

Thank you Daddy

[@hamidiabangura]

I believe that every time a person or people get born again, they are the predestined ones at that time. In other words, the predestination theory or position is per time or per event or occurrence. I also believe that Christ died for all, but a person or people will have to exercise their own will to accept the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ and then benefit from it. We also have to keep crossing the flesh and being vigilant enough to not give place to the devil so that by our own will, we will be perpetually choosing to stay born again. I believe John 3:16 is not a demonstration of God’s partiality (select few to be saved universally/eternally), but an expression of God complete and universal love offered to mankind, in expectation of us to return that love by completely giving our hearts to Him. That’s the God’s will and man’s will partnership to make salvation complete.

[@mrsxber1916]

I think Apst Mike is just always trying to avoid controversy and sometimes be on everyone's good books

[@JoelOsgoodFamily]

Nothing like that at all. Listen👂 to the full message, understand it and be blessed. Not to find faults and leakages. Being critical is not a healthy mindset.

[@ibkakin3865]

I love him, but he should be careful. He should always come straight and clear with God's position on issues.

[@ibkakin3865]

This position is not to criticize him. It is to help him to always declare God's position, not his own. I know he is on the side of the truth, but mitigated/mediated position can not help young believers. For the sake of young believers, he has to be absolute in making his position which is the position of God. God bless.

[@johnobuku5252]

I agree with you. You are either for A or B, there is no option as AB. Apostle Michael Orokpo should stop playing to the gallery Let me be lairs and God be true. What he just submitted is a middle ground position, that is more tilted to once saved forever saved.

[@GreatGrace-24]

If I may ask,in which or what way is this not clear and periodically on GOD's standing? After all those explanations, the light of the word didn't penetrate you. He isn't taking any sides, and about Everything He said with the Help of the Holy Spirit and His revelation,I got the truth of the efficiency of Grace but also the reality of work.​@@ibkakin3865

[@bonaegbe1439]

Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah

[@ibkakin3865]

Thanks God for this message. But Apt. did not come straight and clear about God's position. Stating God's position, beyond his on opinion, will help young believers in understanding without ambiguity. It is absolutely clear that the entire Bible is about how God made a perfect man in Eden, He lost him and wants to redeem him back to Himself. All scriptures are in context. They can't be read in isolation, but in context. Those who argue in line of once saved is for ever saved are quoting scriptures out of context. Satan is a lawyer, that is why he is called the accuser of brethren. He twists the Bible just like lawyer do twist the law in court. Remember how he twited the word of God to manipulate the mind of Eve, where all this wahala started from. He is still at it in our generation. This is why we have all these arguments. And this is where and why I expect Apt. Orkpo to come straight on the holistic position of God on man's salvation, irrespective of specific scriptural quotations, usually out of context. There is nothing to balance. It is either one is saved or not. Salvation is not absolute, one has to work it, with the help of God. (Phil.2:12)

[@johnobuku5252]

I totally agree with you, our beloved Apostle is trying to be " politically correct. I think Apsotle Mike Orokpo is just trying to play to thr gallery over On this debate , you are either for A or B, there is no option as AB His submission here is tilted to Once Saved Forever Saved. Lets call a spade a spade and not try to encourage what is not true just because we are "fans". May God give us understanding

[@OnlyJesusCanSave-z8t]

Study the book of Revelation, the warning of Jesus to His church and learn the truth for yourself

[@savious7609]

Listen to damina at your own expense or rather peril

[@amosmike7180]

Salvation can not lost

[@OnlyJesusCanSave-z8t]

Study the first 3 chapters of Revelation

[@allyhalifa-i3i]

Amen 🙏

[@nathanieldasaro1052]

Grace and apostasy which one is more powerful?

[@redresutherland4219]

You cannot judge peoples decision by what God knows, God gave every man free will but he is the omnicient God there is nothing that he dont know, therefore he will not force you to make your decision even though he knows your end he is Alpha omega begining and the ending. Predistine simple means that God has already made all preparation for you to make the right choice in the case where he was talikng to jeremiah he simple means that even Before he was conceive in his mothers' womb he already know his gifting and purpose which is to be a prophet. God does not learn things like we do, thats why he could have told jeremiah that because he knows everything from the begining to the end. Because he knows every before the foundation was formed and he knows every heart every soul because he planned it he knows it to the end every creature, every heart, every soul.

[@TheThreshingFloorMusicDevotion]

That means the Pastor is unsure of his faith ...

[@danieladebola3980]

Although I don't particularly like Apostle Orokpo, I completely agree with this teaching and the conclusions he came to. He did his homework well. However, Apostle Arome doesn't preach the extremes that Oropko attempted to correct. The correction was solely for Dr. Damina who hold an extreme view. So the title of your video is misleading.

[@KennedyOriakhi]

So true Apostle Arome took the correct position right from the beginning

[@johnobuku5252]

I think Apsotle Mike Orokpo is just trying to play to the gallery over here. On this debate , you are either for A or B, there is no option as AB His submission here is tilted to Once Saved Forever Saved. Lets call a spade a spade and not try to encourage what is not true just because we are "fans". May God give us understanding

[@michealtemple1791]

Once saved forever saved? No Sir listen again. His stand is that God has made salvation available to all yet you'll have to believe and accept the offer. More so if you slack after you have received salvation, you could be damned like the one who never received salvation.

[@michealtemple1791]

44:03-44:18

[@michealtemple1791]

44:03-44:18

[@kelvyn0074]

You are wrong. Watch it to the end. His latter submission tilted to 'once saved is not always saved'.

[@kelvyn0074]

You are wrong. Watch it to the end. His latter submission tilted to 'once saved is not always saved'.