Aptera Alpha Development Vehicle | Jay Leno's Garage

[@Webcrawler45]

I ordered a a 40kWh (400 mile) version with full solar, tent and AWD. As an engineer I appreciate the design and I also like their stance on the right to repair. They believe the owner deserves the right to get parts and make repairs themselves. This helps with a startup as they can’t immediately hav repair centers everywhere.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

We need to resist the Chinese invasion of EVs! Yes!

[@Redbeard_1]

So how much was it for all that more or less than a Tesla

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@Redbeard_1 The 250 mile range version starts at $25,900, and uses dramatically less energy than a Tesla, while offering thrilling acceleration and handing - I got a ride in the Luna prototype two weeks ago Tuesday

[@Redbeard_1]

@@n.brucenelson5920 wow that’s not bad at all way cheaper than a Tesla and it self charges..and it looks cool a futuristic ..I wonder why Tesla can’t do self charging..

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@Redbeard_1 Tesla uses much more power to travel a mile than the under 100 watt hours the Aptera does at EPA highway speeds. We may see limited charging on the Cybertruck, but the overall rate of consumption is so much higher that it is less useful.

[@gryfandjane]

I would love to see Aptera succeed. I was smitten with their design at first sight.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

17 years now and not a single working vehicle delivered... Aptera is obviously a vaporware scam.

[@caroad2008]

No that was airbrake. A secondary safety feature in testing.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera delays production again... it is very obvious that the company is a just another scam.

[@ojomaze7777]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 ...lol

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@ojomaze7777 yeah, Aptera is a joke.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

I'm one of those guys who fell in love with the Aptera. I pre-ordered mine with the 40kW/400mile range, AWD (0-60 in 3.5 sec), full solar (40mi/day with good sun). On top of the Aptera's original styling, and performance, it should cost almost nothing to drive daily. Thanks Jay for featuring the reborn Aptera. I look forward to hearing your impressions of the production model next year.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

Congrats!

[@susanpate]

As a 73 yo, I have also ordered about the same as Dean - but with the tent. :) I do NOT want to be a polluter and this fills the bill. And is affordable unlike the Tesla.

[@TheBandit7613]

The original was more polished. This one is too gimmicky. I seriously doubt it will ever go into production. The original on Jay Leno: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haO0onaCh72faNk

[@n.brucenelson5920]

This is thevsecond alpha prototype. The original was production ready. The betas builds will be much changed

[@deanmcmanis9398]

@@TheBandit7613 The original Aptera was ground breaking for its time. But the reborn Aptera includes the technical advances of the last 10 years. From wheel motors, to more advanced batteries, to the software and control systems, to the cooling, to the solar panels. Production is to begin early next year. I am betting (with my wallet) that Aptera succeeds this time.

[@sirkildalot8409]

Was just ranting with my cousin today about all of the 2.5 tonne SUV’s driving around with one person in it then saw this. Ordered mine. I hope they succeed. 🙏

[@thevet2009]

I'll stick with my truck too...like your cuz...safety first!

[@Solkre82]

I'll have to see the safety rating. I'm not dying for the cause, and I've had 4 EVs.

[@Okurka.]

Those 2.5 ton SUVs are narrower than this three-wheeler.

[@markdc1145]

It's nice to see a new EV that isn't another 2-ton box. Great vehicle for CA and FL.

[@teslaowner9020]

These are Beach/Desert runners

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Its too bad this company reeks of vaporware scam like Nikola, Lordstown and Canoo.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

*It's been 2 years and Aptera is still 2 years away from production.*

[@aaronknight1009]

I love it. As I near retirement, this is all I'd ever need for local driving. Never having to charge is a huge feature

[@artsmith103]

Even if you only got half your daily drive via solar, that doubles the range of the battery. So 200 mile battery would go 400 miles and if were driving 20 miles/day, that's 20 days between charges. 20 kWh will take ~16hrs.

[@ehuckleberry]

Did anyone notice he wants the vehicle to be fish like, but also be very ephishent!!

[@rudra.patel.001]

@@ehuckleberry don't you mean e-fish-ent? I'll see myself out.

[@mirthenemrys]

My mother coulda used something like this, but she gave up driving in the last year or so. She lives around Las Vegas, which of course gets more then enough sun for a car like this. With how little she was driving before covid hit, would have been always full batteries. Just leave it outside after you are done driving around, and pull it in the garage the next day with around a full charge.

[@Okurka.]

Get a bicycle, it helps to keep you fit.

[@AMomcilo1]

I’m so happy that the Aptera company came back, I was sad when they closed down the first time. Such a cool concept.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Thats what fake companies like Aptera do.. They take people's money and then close.

[@OrbitalTrails-x5s]

Sad? get a life, Aleks.

[@TylerLinner]

One of the very few truly unique offerings in the modern automotive landscape. I wanted one then and I want one now! Hopefully the price is low enough.

[@CitroenDS23]

I see the carbon energy shills are still resisting the inevitable. I find it ironic that the car that won the energy competition and the funds has not been heard from since. The design philosophy of the Aptera is not new - but very few companies have the cojones to initiate change. Go Aptera!!

[@TylerLinner]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Spoken like someone who's never tried anything difficult. Go challenge yourself and you'll develop empathy for others. This isn't the Dale...

[@TCKe]

Finally someone made something sustainable fun and afordable!

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera has made nothing but false promises for 17 years... if it sounds too good to be true? It is...

[@cosmoray9750]

That is the problem....." We were looking for Department Of Energy loan ". Most of these companies runs to the government for money. They think the tax payers are a endless pit of money. If the company can stay alive on its own then it is not a viable company. The government is there to govern. The government isn't there to provide loans. When companies runs to the Gov for loans ...aka sometime it is called corporate welfare, it is called Socialism. When companies runs to the banks or private investment ...aka IPO or crowdfunding. It is called Capitalism. What we have today is these companies running to the Gov for money to fund their ventures and that is not right. We don't need anymore of these too big to fail companies.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera has made nothing.. nothing accept false promises for over 17 years.

[@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees]

And ugly and dangerous.

[@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I hope they fail because I don't want to be forced to have to be seen in something this lame looking. Can't they at least make it look good? I don't need something from the Jetsons. I want something that looks nice. Just my opinion. This also looks horrifyingly dangerous. One high speed collision (assuming it can go more than 20 mph) and you're toast.

[@bradchoi9679]

I'm impressed by how the aerodynamics cuts the wind noise WAY down.

[@davidmaddon554]

And the motors are not in the car so it even quieter.

[@janmartens7954]

First thing that I noticed, the way we hear the host rambling :)

[@Angelum_Band]

I have been impressed by aerodynamics since the Wright brothers.

[@mrennick]

Noise is waste and they have trimmed a ton of waste.

[@TylerLinner]

The difference in wind noise from my 65 Ford truck to my 01 Honda Insight is amazing. Taking it full morelli and electric has got to be fantastic. Only the sound of tires squealing around the corners!

[@evflyguy]

Can't wait to get mine! Reserved because I love the look (not the coloring on this prototype), the range, the performance, and most importantly... the price!

[@RandomAssaultPodcast]

1000 mile charge for like 50K is insane, I bought a used 2019 Chevy Bolt for 30K and it only does 250 or so (which will still get you about 2 or so hours, but still)

[@DHT2023]

Same , but reserved the 1000 mile range version. I was a couple days too late to reserve the $25,000 version. Black looks way nicer!

[@mariano7699]

@@DHT2023 : 🍊 🟧 📙 ✴ 🟠 🔸️ much nicer ♥ it

[@skipondowntheroad5833]

@@RandomAssaultPodcast But you can toast marshmallows over your Bolt.

[@RandomAssaultPodcast]

@@skipondowntheroad5833 those s'mores came out great

[@RCCrawlerz209]

Definitely looks like something, people in the 50s dreamed up, when they dreamed of flying cars. Definitely looks kinda retro.

[@user-jz3vc9kd2j]

Fyi....we have had an FAA approved flying car for the past few years. The terrafugia. A few of them out there and in use.

[@RCCrawlerz209]

@@user-jz3vc9kd2j ok 👍🏻

[@TylerLinner]

Paul Jaray and Wunibald Kamm would be drooling-that's for sure!

[@krrk6337]

This is what people in the 60s think of cars in 2020's would have looked like.

[@kevinm9]

What's funny is this is our future

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@kevinm9 Aptera is not the future... they have been running the same vaporware scam for 17 years now.

[@danielbtzibur8637]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 And who is paying you to spend all your time here?

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@danielbtzibur8637 The TRUTH is available completely free of charge... I'm not selling or making false promises.

[@lads.7715]

Jane will go shopping in it while Rosie feeds Astro and vacuums.

[@likethewords]

I appreciated Jay’s thoughtful questions and non-judgmental listening.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

I think its a very intertaining combination... Jay's a comedian and Aptera is a JOKE! Lol!

[@brianhill4153]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 that comment is only funny is you don't spam it in all the comments.

[@martylucas8557]

@@sandervanderkammen9230, Jay’s a comedian and you’re NOT!

[@rickwhite3181]

@@martylucas8557 Good one if you can't say something with class don't say it is what a lot of people don't understand. I give these guys a lot of credit the small companies it is so hard to get a vehicle passed through all of the tests they have to go through these guys could make a lot of money without going through this doing other things

[@__-im2se]

Jay is always very polite to those who come on his show...but is seemed clear that he was (rightfully) skeptical about whether they will be able to bring this thing to market. The guys seem very engineering focused but don't really seem to have a handle on the sales side.

[@aaronlitchfield1268]

You should put your own money into this Jay. The design is clever enough. What they basically need is you to finish it off. You, more than anyone else knows what this car needs to be successful. I've seen all your electric car videos from small companies. These guys are the real thing, and the car has serious potential. You should get into it. It'll be part of your legacy.

[@martinfisker7438]

I love the efficiency first standpoint. A majority of all trips are run solo, and it doesn't make sense to have an SUV for that. 1.5kW at 70mph is very impressive (that's about the power of a 50cc scooter)

[@OllamhDrab]

It's very cool. Though it getting closer to a real hatchback is a big appeal. If I were scooting around town more, it'd still involve a good percentage of my trips involving carrying some tools or parts or semi-bulky items (cause kind of a handyperson.... as electrics go, I'd probably be wanting something more like a light delivery truck or little van if I were doing more 'house calls' but it's getting more intriguing now that the tech's good enough that these little kinds of things don't have to be nothing-but-seats-and-wheels. :)

[@NeoMK]

Ever ridden a scooter up a mountain?

[@peterjorgensen3]

@@NeoMK This scooter has the power to beat a Porsche 911 in a 0-60.

[@NeoMK]

@@peterjorgensen3 OK, take both and compete in the Cannonball Run against one another.

[@peterjorgensen3]

@@NeoMK The 1000 mile version is actually an interesting thought... It would have to charge about 3-4 times... Even if they spent a full hour at each charge I bet it would absolutely cream that Tesla that set the EV cannonball record a few years back...

[@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind]

I admire their tenacity for sticking with it.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

There is a sucker born every minute.. that is how a investment scam like Aptera has stayed running for over 17 years.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

NBC News exposes Aptera as a fake

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Well it's 2024 and Aptera has still reached production... it is looking more and more like a big scam.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

*_Crowdfund Insider_** issues warning to Aptera investors.*

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

*Big announcement today, more delays more changes still need money to start production.*

[@DoctorZacharySmith]

"You can still get your Big Gulp through it" - that has to be the most American criterion for window design ever.

[@jeffbybee5207]

That's what windows are for.

[@troy3456789]

Considering 7/11's do not have drive-throughs, it was odd to me.

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

It was actually designed that way because of aerodynamic constraints.

[@CaliMeatWagon]

That was a joke. The real reason is because the top half of the windows experience high air pressure, but you still need a window. So they made a compromise.

[@eoinoconnell185]

@@CaliMeatWagon It was a joke ? Who does Leno think he is, some kind of comedian ? 😂

[@bitkarek]

this is really what scifi movies imagined back in the days.

[@davidmaddon554]

Well we did not get the 1950s atomic car we were promised but we did get a nuclear powered car.

[@paulrybarczyk5013]

Appropriately, the first version of the Aptera was briefly featured in the 2009 Star Trek movie.

[@thechumpsbeendumped.7797]

@@davidmaddon554 What nuclear powered car are you referring to? The only one I’m aware of is Fords design concept that never went into production (and was never likely to) so saying “we got it,” is a bit of a stretch.

[@grrwuff4099]

... and now people are ready to accept the uniqueness, with households of 1,5 and online commerce. With a large flexible load bay, towing a trailer is not a necessity... And independence of electrical grid even better (with greedy suppliers and 'social scoring' politicains to cut the 'juice' at free will in the future...). KUTGW guys... 👍🚙

[@davidmaddon554]

@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 none ever can't be produced. We were promised atomic cars in the 50s and 60s. The nuclear-powered car soon to being produced now is the Aptera. Where do you think sunlight comes from? 😉 😜

[@qaz9258]

This has many selling points on every level. You could theoretically buy this and have no more cost . The insurance should be less. The "refueling" will could be non existent but for sure less. He talks about upgrade possibilities as tech progresses so if you want different more efficient solar panels when they are invented thats swappable. With the 3 wheel drive... well even with the 2 you could go to the beach and not worry about getting stuck in the soft sand and camp over night. (always check your high tide schedules)

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera definitely sounds too good to be true... Thats because it's a scam.

[@qaz9258]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I would like to see some substantiation behind your claim. Always willing to hear legitimate claims from all angles. From those that have something to offer that is.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@qaz9258 All you need to do is look at the scandalous history of Aptera... It may seem like a legitimate company at a casual glance, but dig a little deeper and you will find very little factual evidence to support that the company is legit. The truth is anyone can build a few prototypes as props and make claims that they are going to build 40 vehicles per day. The problem is there is no evidence to support those claims. Any questions?

[@qaz9258]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I read the article from Forbes Magazine. See multiple videos regarding this car and company. And have not once seen any claim of fraud or scam. Your voice is a tiny little squeak in the roar of humankind. If you really are interested in helping others and this really is a scam, then you might add some weight to your claim by including the source that you may have gotten this from. You possibly should have led with that. You might want to post your sources please, before making accusations. It is a path of wisdom

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@qaz9258 Thats what they said about Nikola, Lordstown and Canoo.... Forbes magazine printed a glowing review of Solydra too... its was personally endorced by President Obama. All sounds great when thw company is launched, the news media doesn't bother the report the details... and qhen they do? They usually get it wrong. Jay Leno did not select Aptera to review, he was forced to review Aptera by the production company.

[@mikew6765]

I've often wondered why the electric car manufacturers weren't covering the shells with solar panels. Thanks for the explanation.

[@mrennick]

Being able to get that top up charge is going to be huge. Jay focused on not being able to put it in the garage, but being parked 8 hours outdoors at work each day will help a lot.

[@Djkudos14]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 love the info and some of it holds up, but i have to disagree with some. I would recommend checking out their website about the solar panels or some the work NREL has done with solar cells. Ive worked in the solar energy industry and I don't know of a single system that wouldn't run an AC on a "perfect" day. I know that conversation could get super in-depth and no place for comment section but I really did enjoy reading your comment I just had a few disagreements with some of your assertions. cheers!

[@ResinRat2]

@@mrennick Leave it outside during the day and throw it in the garage overnight.

[@jeffcarlton3590]

@@mrennick I know. Go ahead and garage it at night. Ain't no sun shining then anyway. I don't think it charges off streetlights ;->.

[@jeffcarlton3590]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 It will pass all car regulations for crashes, and safety. It will actually beat most all the cars on the road in most safety metrics.

[@plumbandsquare1]

I hope they can get it on the market this time around. Also hope they can stop the fenders from wiggling!

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Not much worry about fenders. This is an alpha vehicle. The betas will have changes to almost every aspect

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Fake products never make it to the market... that is not what vaporware scams do.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Not to worry, you will never see a working production model... this fake company reeks of vaporware scam.

[@rngalston]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I swear you just like to say vaporware

[@danam0228]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 stop being such a troll

[@timgarrett203]

I’m sure Jay realizes that hanging his hand out the window doubled the drag of the car.

[@tinystar3010]

Having the windows down period dramatically adds drag as its suck air into the interior and not smoothly allowing it to flow over the sides

[@O-cDxA]

Lol - literally ! 🤣 I remember in other videos, how he has mentioned that he hates how he can't hang his arm out the window on newer cars. Normally, he would have made a positive comment about being able to do so, ( And he would have made a comment about the window being the same on the McLaren ) but I think he really didn't want to review the car. I can't blame him. He reviewed the car once, and it flopped. I think he would rather have review the car when a few are actually delivered.

[@voicetube]

LOL!

[@iansmith6728]

The cameras probably did the same (until it fell off!)

[@Andertheil]

@@O-cDxA may be more of a realization of a large market shift and therefore undeterministic in "norms" importance.

[@godchi1dvonsteuben770]

These guys know their stuff. These are the type of people that The Big Three need to seek out, and employee. I'm glad these two are developing vehicles for the future, they have their heads on straight, and their engineering is impeccable.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Yeah, the world really needs more crooks like Chris and Steve.

[@Ganiscol]

I really like the design, especially the sideline is beautiful! The technology also sounds on point - up to a thousand miles range on a charge with the top range model? 40 free miles per day if the sun shines? A huge trunk that can serve as a tent? And it goes pretty fast too? I wish these gentlemen all the success in the world! And who knows, I might very well own one of these cars one day...

[@eletrik500e2]

200 mile overnight charge on 110? That's crazy.

[@suomenpresidentti]

Tent reminds me of Pontiac aztek.

[@osimmac]

@@eletrik500e2 yeah its about 25mp/h of charge on a standard outlet, which is pretty awesome, most ev's barely manage 5mph of charge on 110v AC.

[@peterjorgensen3]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Last time they refunded all the refundable deposits. It's refundable this time too.

[@krissteel4074]

Yep its a good looking vehicle and nice to see very low drag aero and weight reduction is still a thing for designers to consider

[@ICKY427]

i really wish these guys the best. we NEED to get cars like this more mainstream. for many reasons.

[@bradsmith9189]

God help us if these wussy cars ever get forced on us. Nerd vehicle.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

I think we have proven with the Vokswagen L1 that this is definitely not a mainstream concept...

[@danielbtzibur8637]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 It is more difficult to develop a mainstream concept. For that You need to start doing what Elon Musk is doing. Very distressing work.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@danielbtzibur8637 Elon Musk stole the concept from the original company founders, not that battery electric cars are new, they have been around for over 100 years. What Musk is doing is more financial than engineering, Tesla vehicles are actually very poorly made for the price.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Another year of false promises and no vehicles... Chris and Steve are lying crooks.

[@AlansTheory]

This is definitely the future, a small car that doesn't need to be charged, most of us don't drive 40 miles a day. Why do we need to have gigantic cars that pollute everything🤷‍its just idiotic behavior that comes from marketing

[@MrThunderMonky]

I LOVE the fact that you dont have to plug it in. as a person who lived in a LOT of apartments and now a townhome with no garage. plugging in for millions of americans is just not a realistic option. so I think this is great

[@qaz9258]

Throw your long extension cord out over the balcony to plug in the car. Only to find in the morning some homeless man charging his phone with a line behind him.😅

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

You have to be very gullible to believe a solar car is a "realistic option"

[@incan87]

@@qaz9258 neighbors would connect their extension cords to power their window ac units and battery packs overnight

[@artsmith103]

I don't think their miles/day via solar are real. I think they deliberately didn't derate the panels to correspond to the real angle to the sun. I suggest divide their mileage by 2.

[@JohnDoe-zj6xf]

@@artsmith103 full day sun gives 20 miles of range that's reasonable.

[@VedaSay]

This design platform with autonomous interacting platform seems the right future. Strapping solar to a car that was meant to carry an ice engine is not efficient. The design needs re-thinked through like Aptra, that is what the future has to be. AWESOME effort Team Aptera!

[@tomslattery1]

What is an ice engine?

[@tjfromreno]

@@tomslattery1 internal combustion engine

[@cggage]

Great video. If ever there was a company that deserves success, this is it. Great idea. Great principles. It's an "engineer's car" but also is strikingly unique in style. Both factors are selling points for me. I am glad Jay reviewed this. I remember the video from 13 years ago. I was hoping there would be a review of the new version of Aptera. Good luck! I will be following this closely.

[@inediblenut]

As an engineer, I have to give these guys a lot of credit for the thought that went into this. The design is clearly where we need to go for the future of the planet. After hearing their spiel, I would consider this vehicle as a second car for city use. It passes the Costco test, in that it can hold the bale of paper towels, cases of water and beer, cart-full of other items and still carry two passengers!

[@davidmaddon554]

Imagine this can go anywhere in the world that get sun. How many people in remote places can have a vehicle. The worlds first off grid car.

[@Circuitssmith]

It’s a great vacation vehicle too. A couple of people or one person and a pet can go anywhere for a thousand miles, bring a tent and camping gear or a bunch of luggage. The purpose is the people, not the area it gets used in.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

This is just the same vaporware scam as last time with a slicker, more polished presentation. Same crooks running the company again too.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@davidmaddon554 Can't go anywhere in a car that will never be made... classic example of vaporware fraud

[@Circuitssmith]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Can’t change anything with troll comments on KZbin. Classic example of a miserable failure with too much time on your hands.

[@thomaslewis7883]

If Aptera can deliver a functioning ,comfortable reliable vehicle at a realistic price point,they could sell them in the numbers needed to make Aptera a viable option for those people that commute,do a lot of outdoor activity or just want to step into the future while saving a lot of money on fuel costs. I wish them all the best.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

APTERA has delivered nothing but false promises and vaporware for over 16 years..

[@loftsatsympaticodotc]

...AND help the planet with ZERO GHG generated, reduce pollution and grid energy costs AND electricity transportation costs.and improve the quality of life for EVERYONE. we can get even 10 miles a day charge, I'd be a happy camper. as somedays we work from home all day.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

​@@loftsatsympaticodotcAptera produces millions of tons of hot air. But no vehicles.. Classic vaporware scam

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera gutted by recent NBC News story...

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

It's 2024 now and Aptera has missed another promised production deadline.. it is obviously a scam.

[@mcsully67]

Love the variety of cars Jay continues to highlight.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Yeah, its a great mix of real cars and fake ones.. like the Aptera

[@carlsjr7975]

Lots o bots trying to influence jays audience too

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 You were tipped off, but didn't believe it. How many more times so you want to be wrong?

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@carlsjr7975 Are you paid to promote Carl's Jr???

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Aptera still hasn't delivered a single order... you are the one that looks like a fool right now. Aptera has already lied about delivery dates for the third time.

[@beninformato9040]

Very cool car! Great concept. Contemporary design. I wish the company well. Hope they sell a lot. Thanks Jay for having them on the show.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera is a fraudulent vaporware investment scam

[@tims8603]

I'm glad Jay did this. He has a lot of subscribers so it's a good way for people to get a good idea what the Aptera is all about. I would love to own one.

[@thefreedomwarrior]

🤮

[@EarthCreature.]

@@thefreedomwarrior Can I interest you in a legacy vehicle that won't be worth a damn in 6 years because you strike me as a mindless consumer

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Its very unfortunate that the producers of the show forced Jay to review this fake vaporware scam for a second time... it does absolutely nothing for Jay's credibility in the automotive industry.

[@AshS85]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 do you work for Exxon? 😂

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@AshS85 No. Are you a co-conspirator in the Aptera scam?

[@jamesbingham1007]

25:48 "Well I wish ya' luck"...awwww, the kiss of death.

[@SIMKINETICS]

I've seen many original and unusual concepts since seeing the first Corvette prototype at a pre-release viewing at the 1952 GM Autorama as a kid (my dad was a manager at GM); that turned into a very successful brand. That event made me a car nut who always followed the cool new developments and innovative headliners that rarely ever saw the light of day as real products that lasted. The Aptera seemed like a potential exception a dozen years ago, and then disappeared. It's fantastic seeing it back! With a few minor warts, it has beautiful lines that just might catch on! Additionally, the creators seem to have a firm grasp on making a dramatically novel design very practical! As a retired mechanical engineer who's always been into cars & bicycles, I hear what they say as down-to-earth logic in their approach. Their Aptera is a fine blend of beauty and sensible innovation that justifies & deserves success, finally! Props to their dedication and determination!

[@peterjorgensen3]

It's so exciting isn't it!

[@philipdubuque9596]

Your guest's statement: "It's the most efficient thing possible to get from point A to point B" says it all. Surely, vehicles built with this philosophy are the future of personal transportation. Jay, I was forming the Chrysler Airflow thought just as you were saying it. It's a design that will certainly get a lot of notice on the street. I'd love to own one but when your guest said, "Yeah, you can't pick your nose in the Aptera", I felt immediately disqualified...

[@fiouable]

Get over yourself.

[@poppachoppa8956]

@@fiouable imagine not picking your nose in your mega efficient sci fi vehicle. Nerd.

[@hagestad]

SUV epidemy proves no one is going to buy one. thanks soccer moms.

[@NavinJohnson_thethird]

He said it so it must be true. LOL

[@CitroenDS23]

@@fiouable Yet you're the one that adds nothing to the conversation. Is that because no-one takes any notice of you in the real world so you seek any attention you can get?

[@LordSandwichII]

I love the sound of those engines! Those fairings wobble way too much, though.

[@patrickcorcoran5539]

I learned recently that's is because the fairings are not complete. They've left off the inner panel so they can change around the cables and suspension. With that inner panel they are much more stable.

[@briankirby6714]

Electric car has no engine sound except of the tires rub/vibration on the wheel fairings that hold the wheel and engines on the outside!

[@asdf52708]

@@briankirby6714 sometimes the commutation of the motor is barely audible, it depends if they are using trapezoidal waveforms or not, trapezoids can be quite noisy, but most controllers use sinusoidal or field oriented control

[@kare9875]

I was thinking the same thing. I also wonder if their mileage will suffer in the production model when they raise the bottom to be 5" off the road verses what we are currently seeing. I also worry about safety on the highway when a tractor trailer passes or you pass one. I would not eat get in an accident in one of these either.

[@fromthepeanutgallery1084]

Motors. Engines are powered.

[@ASkippingRock]

I live in a rural area with a short commute. This would be incredibly stress reducing vs a car. No gas, less repairs, less expensive to purchase. I just hope they develop a removable roof rack so I can move a couple of kayaks. I currently drive a 2007 Dodge Charger SRT8. Never again, far to expensive to run and repair.

[@Okurka.]

Get a golf cart or a bicycle.

[@marvellous9652]

@@Okurka. Golf carts are not street legal, and bikes are dangerous to ride on many roads, especially in the US.

[@Okurka.]

@@marvellous9652 How is that possible in the greatest country in the world?

[@timothykeith1367]

It would be stress-free until hit by an F350. I still like it. Mork from Ork arrived in something like this

[@markharmon4963]

I kayak too. That hatch is the best of both worlds. I could use it for my handyman trade. And a rack would help for carrying light long materials.

[@glynprice3815]

Love Jay's knowledge and interest in all vehicles. Please do a long episode of a garage tour.

[@Neojhun]

The way he estimated 65-35 showed off his expertise.

[@pip5461]

There are a lot of videos on the KZbin that show everything he has in his garage.

[@patrickdgarez86]

a much more viable option now, than 13 years ago both in terms of tech and acceptance of design. Also clear that after being beaten down 13 years ago, the dialogue coming from the two key players is more tempered straight forward (rather than "selling the dream". Jay is right that the design will, now, sell it, along with cost and the possibility of no charge. More refined effort and I wish them well. Sticking to it, as they have done, deserves respect.

[@TheBandit7613]

I don't think this will ever see production.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@TheBandit7613 I will be driving my copy next year.

[@TheBandit7613]

@@n.brucenelson5920 I hope you do. Doubtful though. Even they know it.

[@hammertlme]

@@TheBandit7613 They already have the funding for production( in Q1 2022), which is entirely different than what happened last time, where they were running out of funding right as the car was about to go into production but were still going to make it until they were removed as CEOs and the company scrapped the car and decided to make a 4 wheel car instead which killed the rest of their capital resources.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Its been a very successful concept for a long running vaporware scam... almost as successful as the Moller Skycar scam.

[@scottimusgarrett15]

Pretty cool. I like the fact that these guys never quit, kept up with new technology, and came back. Nice packaging and great low weight. It is a little Jetsons for me, but it's that way for scientific and pragmatic reasons, so I'll take it!👍 Thanks for another unique presentation, Jay and crew!🤘

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

This old scam still hooks the suckers....

[@Circuitssmith]

I love how form purely follows function here. It’s its own kind of art and display of genius.

[@biffwilliams6191]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 The engineering is sound, the design is exactly what cars should look like from an engineering perspective. The prior version of Aptera refunded all the pre-order deposits last time, so no scam then either. As for investors, Aptera has always been very clear about the challenges. Most startup companies don't make it, trying for something new and big doesn't make it a scam.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@biffwilliams6191 Well thank you for confirming that you are not an engineer. Are you sure? They never paid any interest on all those deposits... What about the investors and creditors? They never got their money back.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@biffwilliams6191 It is a scam if you never intend to go to production.

[@jorgefernandez-mv8hu]

That is a cool car. EV makers have to realize that most people live in apartments and such with limited abilities for plug in charging so a vehicle that can charge itself while you are at work or whatever makes alot of sense. Hope it works out.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

According to Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson its not a car. Its a lifestyle activity transportation concept. Cars are meant to be practical vehicles for moving people and their belongings reliability from any point to any destination by road. The beta version will have a Diesel generator to charge the batteries because as we all know solar power does not work at night or in the shade of city buildings. If you are really interested in a vehicle that never needs charging check out *Elio Motors* The Elio is a much better design and they are actually starting production right now, Aptera is still in the early prototype stage and won't start production for at least 4 years and there is already a 17 year backlog of orders.

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I totally agree ... Achates style diesel and skip the BS batteries, series hybrid as tech as an electromotive should be ...👍

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Well it's 2024 and there is still absolutely nothing happening at Aptera.

[@richardlutz5458]

So often I see people getting all worked up over parking in the garage. When I depart for work, the sun is just coming up. When I get home in the summer there is 2-3 hours of sunlight max. The car is going to be outside in the sun AT WORK! My employer doesn't provide a garage for the employees. Sure it might not get a full day of sunshine on the weekend. Five days out of seven it will be in the sun.

[@bob15479]

BINGO

[@deanmcmanis9398]

Well said! I will be getting recharged while the Aptera is sitting out in the sunny parking lot at work.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Rest assured, this fake car will never see the light of day... the crooks at Aptera will bailout and run with the money just like last time.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 that didn't happen.

[@Blazer02LS]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Except they didn't run, they refunded the money to the early buyers. So unless you really want to be taken to court for slandering them you might want to stop.

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Bring back the "Pandemic Edition!" I honestly prefer the episodes where it's just Jay and his car. It allows me to really appreciate the car more because it's just Jay being wholesome about the car and in the "Pandemic" episodes I feel like I'm alone in the garage hanging out with Jay.

[@petermuller161]

Jay has an amazing talent

[@ghoulbuster1]

Wholesome big chungos 100 keanu reaves

[@mykevenable8180]

Love it ! American made, beauty of a design and totally practical.

[@davet.5493]

pinto

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Total vaporware scam.. Hard to believe there are suckers that actually fell for this same scam twice.

[@khandam7709]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 what a looser

[@32BitJunkie]

Stop commenting that on everything

[@mykevenable8180]

@@davet.5493 The Pinto was a beautiful car design ! Simple.

[@amrak-8401]

I thought I lost this EV car because I never heard from them for a while now it’s back?! It’s beautiful! It would be awesome if you have solar panels all over the body option.

[@pedromartins2909]

There is now the option to cover the top in full, as in trunk, hood and roof.

[@SamBirchenough]

so happy to see this company is making a comeback. loved the original concept years ago. the founders did a good job fielding Jays comments. wishing these guys all the best & a very bright future

[@TheBandit7613]

These guys aren't the founders. I think they aren't trustworthy. Here's the original with the real founder: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haO0onaCh72faNk

[@SamBirchenough]

@@TheBandit7613 hmm, according to their website & wiki, these guys are founders of the original 2005 company.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Still nothing but a vaporware scam

[@TheBandit7613]

@@SamBirchenough I don't know who anyone is. I do know the original Aptera was more marketable and more finished. Wasn't full of gimmicks. They will go nowhere. Elon has enthusiasm. These guys have none. It's not easy to found a new car company. The original had nice mirrors, door handles, the front fenders didn't flop around, had a nice plug in, doors stayed open ect.

[@SamBirchenough]

@@TheBandit7613 i agree that this seems to be light years away from being production ready, and it would have been nice to hear about their manufacturing infrastructure & plans.

[@415s30]

This is good, I was pretty annoyed when the company looked like it was going to disappear. Aero is the key to range and energy savings and the solar panels are great on this new version too.

[@nobodynoone2500]

The solar panels are mostly decoration. Their function in ideal situations is pretty mild. Nevermind it takes being aligned with the sun for good efficiency. To call it highly suspect from a engineering and accounting perspective would be generous.

[@biffwilliams6191]

Most of the solar panels are a $900 option, so you don't have to get them. For people that live in apartments and park on the street, the solar panels are crucial and highly cost and time effective compared to expensive public chargers. From an engineering perspective, having an independent source of power helps with a lot of edge cases that bedevil normal EV's such as battery safety if the car is left parked in the sun for a week or two, keeping the batteries above damaging low charge states, etc. Most vehicles should at least have a solar panel on the roof to run a vent fan to keep the cabin cool while parked in the sun. This on its own would be highly cost-effective over the life of the vehicle with decreased AC usage after startup, increased passenger comfort, and increased lifetime of cabin electronics and materials.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

@@nobodynoone2500 Solar panels can only produce so much electricity. The key to making them work well in an EV is that the vehicle's efficiency has to be superior. It wouldn't even move the charge needle in a 9,000lb, brick of a Hummer. But by the Aptera using such a small amount of power, it makes all the difference in the world.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@biffwilliams6191 Its a completely moot point.. Aptera is nothing more than a vaporware scam.

[@robertgoss6587]

@@nobodynoone2500 If you really want to know the truth about how this car can get this mileage from solar charging. Check out youtube "Engineering Explained" episode "Why Don't Solar Powered Cars Exist?". This expert engineer gives all the formulas and explanation for solar powered engineering ----- including the Aptera.

[@ICKY427]

they mention having to leave it outside to get the solar charge, but i think in most peoples cases you would get your charge AT work, then drive home and back on that charge.

[@androo4519]

I agree. When you're home it's often going to be nighttime anyway so it doesn't matter if it's in the garage.

[@davefroman4700]

You obviously have no idea how expensive it is for businesses to install that much charging for its employee's. Its all fun and games until you realize the cost of pulling another leg of power off the grid is going to involve the installation of transformers.

[@Circuitssmith]

@@davefroman4700 He was talking about the charge from the solar panels being picked up in the work parking lot. Also, parking lots in general are huge opportunities for solar power, and they’d provide shade so people wouldn’t have to climb into microwave ovens at the end of the day. That’s also before getting into snow and weather damage to the pavement that gets prevented.

[@johnbuscher]

Some people can park on the roof of their garage at work though, so this seems like an easy way to recoup some time of it charging.

[@artboymoy]

Funky. I like it. Crazy to have a 1000 mile range, and seems like a great option to take a trip out in the country. I really like Jay's Q and A at the start. Asking a lot of questions that people ask as well as higher tech specs. Really liked hearing the developers goals and thought process in making it as well. Not digging the wheel covers. I think I'd be losing those on curbs. Good luck guys. Hope it takes off and gets out as much as I'm seeing Polaris Slingshots in my area.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera is a total scam

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

It's been a year and a half since APTERA missed its 11th production deadline in 19 years

[@Okurka.]

They have never tested the full range of their vehicle.

[@artboymoy]

@@Okurka. This is true, but with the power of math and science you can have a confident estimate of what the range will be. I don't know why people have a hard time with this concept.

[@Okurka.]

@@artboymoy Because the estimates given by the automotive industry are never exaggerated.

[@HRM.H]

This is what I expected of electric cars. Ultra earodynamic and efficient

[@peterjorgensen3]

Exactly!!!

[@dutmala]

Aerodynamic *

[@HRM.H]

@@dutmala Grammar Nazi *

[@jfv65]

Have a look at the Lightyear1, it's a 4wheeler 4seater, ultra aerodynamic and it also has solar panels on hood, roof and fastback

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@jfv65 Another good effort, but also $170,000.

[@seanbodkin1798]

Great job getting the word out through JLG. I also have my order in as well as being an investor. My build is a 3 motor Noir with the full solar. Transportation of 3 wheel vehicles could be an issue, but there’s even speculation of Gig manufacturing i.e. components could even be manufactured in very small spaces, even someone’s garage and the parts sent out for final assembly. It should look great next to my ‘74 Citröen DS

[@danam0228]

The age of the Jetsons is here. Very cool. Love that if needed you can plug it into any outlet.

[@peterjorgensen3]

You can DC fast charge too just like any tesla on a road trip.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@peterjorgensen3 Tesla makes real cars... Aptera is nothing more than a vaporware scam.

[@loucipher6839]

jay lenos that family member everyone loves but never met, watched his shows with my mom (r.i.p.) since i was a kid back in the lates 70’s (damn am i that old 🤔) great to see hes still with us in 2022 💪

[@RandomAssaultPodcast]

If I hadn't just bought a 2019 Chevy Bolt last October I'd be very interested in this, it just looks so cool

[@jeffkelly636]

Very interesting car. Quiet and a real head turner. Visibility looks excellent.

[@peterforint2663]

Thank you @jayleno for sharing your love of cars and how much you appreciate innovation, too. I've pre-ordered an Aptera and believe this could be the last commuter vehicle I'll ever need to buy!

[@CommonBovine]

I love how Jay uses the entire road when he's driving! 👍

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Jay's not actually driving... according to Aptera representative Rev. Bruce Nelson the Alpha version is actually fully autonomous... Aptera had hoped to use a Lidar scanner for autonomous driving but opted for a much cheaper system that uses contact sensors... they're still having alot of collisions but hope to have it sorted out by the time production starts in 2029.

[@ianmullin6227]

Was looking for this comment lol

[@rogue13131313]

It's mandatory to drive like that at Jay's age.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@rogue13131313 Most Aptera pre-order holders are senior citizens and will benefit from the autonomous driving system.

[@blkferrari355]

I’m a car nut through and through and I love this car. It’s new thinking and that’s what we need to move things forward. I love the idea and the philosophy behind this car and company. He said it best by saying that they started with science based on first principles and trying to get people as energy efficient as possible from point A to point B.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Interesting theory but none of the industry experts see a market for this concept... its really an old idea started with the Volkswagen L1 which was did see production but was expensive and sold at a loss.

[@-nightraider-1169]

Same this is the only electric car that I would actually buy

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@-nightraider-1169 Too bad you can't buy one of these... they are not real.

[@davidclark538]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 lol

[@topsofwow]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 The L1 kinda sucked though lmao. The advantages of this vehicle far outweigh those of the L1. The L1 had an electric range of only 31 miles and a diesel range of 250. The most expensive model of this car has a range of 1000 miles, is faster, and is less than HALF the price of the L1. The base model has the same range as the L1, but is literally four times cheaper. The L1 was also limited production, so they didn't even intend on selling many and probably couldn't at that price. Comparing this to the L1 is honestly like comparing this to the Model S Plaid. 99/100 people would pick the plaid over this, but this for $25k vs the plaid for $120k? Now you need to start having an honest conversation.

[@Nuker54]

Loved it at first sight and live in Arizona. Putting my name in the order queue was a no-brainer.

[@user-ft2md2gd4s]

I hope the market is ready for this vehicle. Adding solar to electrics is a great idea. Depending on your daily mileage the possibility of not needing to plug your car is very real.

[@mpetersen6]

Adding solar to any car makes sense. Go to work, leave the window raked enough to get airflow and turn on a fan that runs on solar.

[@markplott4820]

Ummmm, my TESLA is Electric with Almost 400 mi range , and I ONLY need to charge it on 240v ONE per week.

[@TheJTMcDaniel]

My commute is barely a mile (when it snows, I'm just as likely to walk) and running errands after work may add another ten miles every few days. Even with the 250-mile version I might well be able to go years without ever having to plug it in except during vacation time.

[@realityhitsmehardbro]

I have never before heard the birds chirping on JLG when he goes on a test drive.

[@peterjorgensen3]

Open windows with birds chirping. Wow.

[@mayo_moto]

Neat! I know stiffness comes at the cost of weight, but those front fenders give a horrible quality impression. Looking forward to seeing later stage models. Looks like this is gonna be a killer product when it's all sorted out.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

According to Aptera representative Rev. Bruce Nelson the beta version will be made from a new composite derived from recycled, biodegradable, gluten-free material called 'Love Resin'. Rev Bruce Nelson says that vibration that causes fatigue failure in ordinary materials actually makes 'Love Resin' stronger and more durable. This is because the individual molecules are emotionally attracted by the Aptera's love for the environment.

[@TheBandit7613]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 It runs from unicorn farts.

[@AaronVets]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 🤡

[@jasontran8095]

Beautiful Aptera. Can't wait to get one...

[@Carl_in_AZ]

Over 40 years ago in my college's engineering power lab, we talked about Axial Flux Induction Motors (AFIM) and their advantages but I never understood where they would be used. Now I understand why Aptera selected this design. These lighter motors with electronic vector control will produce a much better grip than typical Electric Vehicle radial motors so they should handle great on cornering.

[@philipocallaghan]

In the video the car crossed lanes every time it cornered, is that just Jay driving badly?

[@harrifiedify]

@@philipocallaghan I suspect this is because the wheels are further outboard than usual from a driver's perspective.

[@larry903s]

Only if there is a RPM sensor that is coupled with computerized speed controls for each wheel to simulate what a differential does.

[@markplott4820]

YET, the PLAID is the MOST Efficient PRODUCTION car on EARTH , and has TOP Speed & Acceleration . and the motors are Protected inside the Chassis with a Awesome Drivetrain & Suspension System.

[@Carl_in_AZ]

@@larry903s I read Aptera's FAQ excel sheet and that is what they are doing.

[@eskanderx1027]

19:00 Just as Jay said few minutes later, their selling points are: - It's cool and futuristic looking, practically flying a spaceship on a road - Environmentally friendly - Low maintenance and cheap to drive, even if you charge by plugging in

[@89CrazyAl]

Man, Jay knows his stuff. I just bought my shares into this company. So looking forward to my first acquisition. More Apteras on the road, less pollution. Eliminate gas purchasing. Big Win Win !!!

[@stephensfischer]

Love the Aptera and looking forward to getting mine with the full solar, camper and off rode packages!!! 😎 ☀️

[@ticnatz]

Glad to see these guys still trying....

[@ganjaman59650]

and failing

[@JTM610]

@@ganjaman59650 isn’t it a bit early to say that

[@nightcrawleroriginal]

@@ganjaman59650 I wouldn't say 10,000 orders is a failure would you?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

13,000 now and growing.

[@hammertlme]

@@ganjaman59650 They already have enough investor funds to be in production for years. Failure is basically an impossibility.

[@dorinp007]

Great design! I hope it turns into a successful product! Suggestions: you could make the top fixed windows extend (a bit) more into the roof, and for sure the wheel covers on the final product must be way less wobbly.

[@hondolane3125]

I did not want to be the first to throw a dart at their prototype, but as an automotive structural engineer the term we would use for that amplitude of "wobble" is "unsalable". Especially as it appears the driver can see the wheel right out the side window. I also appreciate how difficult reducing a vibration response like this can be, especially when it is exposed to such direct excitation (ON the wheel). I wish them the best of luck, love the practicality of the back half, especially the available insert to complete the flat deck for camping in. I used to do that in my capped pickup with a plywood deck and carpet.

[@dorinp007]

@@hondolane3125 It is definitely not a deal-breaker, and even without any automotive structural background, I can see that the piece is missing an anchor point at the top. It was probably not in the focus of the designer (yet). One thing is for sure, if the transparent solar panels ever take off, this product would benefit tremendously!

[@Rob060870]

I think this looks amazing , big sellers are efficiency looks ,right to repair and solar charging. Very impressive. I want one in the UK 👏👏👏

[@raymondturner6784]

I feel like this is the first car since the Model-T that wants to change the whole world. I'm not really sure what Ford's intent was originally, but I think this guy just wants the world to be a better place. He already has a very successful business...

[@djgate]

(I feel like this is the first car since the Model-T that wants to change the whole world) Believe Tesla has already done that! Musk has factories around the world and has made every major motor manfacturer change their lines over to electric!

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Ford successfully sold over 15 million model Ts. In 17 years Aptera has not delivered a single working vehicle, rhe company is a fraudulent investment scam.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@djgate Tesla Motors has never made a profit selling cars...

[@jeffbybee5207]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 wonder how you can say tesla has not made a profit. They paid their loans back early, that didn't happen from no profit

[@davidclark538]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 even YOU know that this is a story of two companies. So, claiming aptera hasn't delivered a vehicle in 17 years isn't really accurate. If you want to be accurate, (since that the new, reformed Aptera began in 2019).... Just say aptera hasn't delivered a vehicle since 2019. There ya go, man.

[@trevordbb]

I ordered the 3 wheel drive full solar 400 mile Aptera. I can not wait to drive it!

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Don't hold your breath!

[@deanmcmanis9398]

I also ordered the AWD, 40kW/400mi model. I am excited to get it.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@deanmcmanis9398 you wont...

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I hope you like crow because you are preparing a feast for yourself.

[@fanfare100]

I ordered the 400 mile front wheel drive with the off-road, camper options with the improved sound system and full solar. Oh, and special groovie colours. lol

[@kerrypatton4975]

The trembling front fenders… gonna have to anchor those better. I find it mildly irritating, but my greater concern is the substance will fatigue and begin to either delaminates, or just outright fracture at the anchor points.

[@HRM.H]

Definitely won't make it to production ( i hope )

[@eunhyuekpark6159]

I was thinking the same thing. You take that long enough at highway speeds and those ferrings are gonna fly off. The inner openings are too big and letting in lots of disturbed air and shaking the heck of it.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

It has a very strong composite structure, like an F1 racing car or speedboat hull. The production model will have all of the early prototype bugs worked out.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

@@eunhyuekpark6159 As they mentioned, this is an early prototype shown, and there will be aerodynamic fairings that fully enclose the suspension, cables, and wheels and attach to the fenders.

[@richevanscpa]

The composite is 7 times stronger than steel.

[@colinfitzgerald4332]

This is the kind of E.V. We can have without over stressing the electrical power grid. Good work, Aptera!

[@Okurka.]

It saves maximum 4KWh on a sunny day. If your power grid can't handle that then you have different problems.

[@JosephWall117]

@@Okurka. For me it's not about the solar, the efficiency alone is what has me sold. It uses so much less electricity to move that you can reliably and fairly quickly charge it on a regular 110, which is what he's saying would stress the power grid less than everyone quick charging overnight on 220s. I don't even live in an area with a lot of sun, when I read that you can get what I need for my commute out of a 110 in less than the time I sleep, that's a much bigger deal. I can't buy a house any time soon either, so it needs to work off a regular outlet that I don't need to upgrade.

[@Okurka.]

@@JosephWall117 I have yet to see proof of their claimed efficiency.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

​@@JosephWall117 Unfortunately Aptera can't offer any proof of its fantastic claims... it can't get production going either... reeks like a scam

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

​@@JosephWall117Still waiting... it seems the only thing Aptera makes is false promises.

[@deelawrence1135]

I loved your first version and I love this even more, I wish you well

[@butch3715]

I've been following Aptera since the beginning. Hopefully they make it to production this time. Hope the production model won't have that electric motor whining noise (that would drive me nuts). And the front wheel covers won't be loosely giggling around. Good luck Aptera!

[@peterjorgensen3]

From Aptera: The mounts for the Alpha pants are just not that strong. The Beta’s will have an inner liner that also braces the whole assembly to the motor. This will be MUCH stronger but no matter how strong it is they will still shake some because of the physics of having the pants travel with the wheel. It’s just a lot of mass moving quickly. But Beta’s will be a lot less noticeable in that department

[@biffwilliams6191]

Adding the inside wheel cover should reduce the motor noise in the betas. You can also close the windows to reduce the noise. But the whine is still much quieter than a combustion engine.

[@doomrayne]

Might not even be all from the motor, afaik all electric vehicles are required to make a certain amount of noise for safety reasons.

[@ljmounteney4131]

finally someone is listening! we don't all want BIG cars! :)

[@markplott4820]

TESLA model 2 is going to Blow APTERA out of the water , with is 2023 Compact car for $24,000.

[@ljmounteney4131]

@@markplott4820 LOL I still like the Aptera for working on a way to have days where you can just drive it purely on solar. that makes much more sense to me.. plus again, more compact too. but thanks for alerting me to the Model 2. I used to be a Tesla fan but not as much anymore...

[@markplott4820]

@@ljmounteney4131 - you can Drive a TESLA , the same way with a SOLAR car port , or Solar on your Roof. and APTERA will never have FSD , every TESLA comes with FREE Autopilot , and FSD for $10,000.

[@ljmounteney4131]

@@markplott4820 well, I don't have a car port or access to a roof. Like MOST people I live in apt and I love the idea that there is zero drag with Aptera. That is important to note. I also don't really care about FSD. Plus Aptera, much cooler style. very space age. That's worth something alone. Too many Tesla's now, they're not special at all...

[@markplott4820]

@@ljmounteney4131 - as efficient as APTERA is it still some drag. Problem is have delivered ZERO cars , and not likely to get NHTSA approval. it's lacking anti collision sensors and crash avoidance systems. they have not established that their batteries are safe .

[@robcerrato6528]

I love the idea/concept of Aptera and hope they make it to production. That said those front wheel covers are really wobbly… and did something fall off of the car at 23:38? I hope they sort it all out because this would be a great future.

[@The_Irish_Rover]

No, look in front of the car. You can see the black thing come from off camera.

[@robcerrato6528]

@@The_Irish_Rover yes, I believe you are right about that.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson confirmed that the rear ABS module fell off during the test drive.. while Jay was uninjured the vehicle was involved in a fatal accident involving a pedestrian later that day. The NTSB report shows that video from the show Jay Leno's Garage was instrumental in the accident investigation. Aptera is currently involved in a wrongful death lawsuit and served Jay Leno and Big Dog Productions with an _order of protection_ preventing Jay or the show from commenting on the accident.

[@brugraz]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Actually?

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@brugraz Yes, Rev. Bruce Nelson actually works for Aptera, you can see him on their website.

[@madmotorcyclist]

I'm waiting to see if they actually make production. The Aptera would be a perfect replacement for my Harley and my Nissan Leaf.

[@hammertlme]

They have the funds for production already. You should reserve now so you've got a spot in line.

[@madmotorcyclist]

@@hammertlme I just want to see the refinements in their latter development stages first before I commit. My Nissan Leaf will last me a couple of more years so I can wait.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Don't hold your breath, Aptera has not delivered a single working vehicle to a customer in over 16 years of false promises.

[@TheOcular]

Aptera is definitely a great step forward, I have ordered one myself, but please, don´t get rid of your Harley! You may regret it.That roar and the feeling of freedom cannot be replaced. I own a Harley,too..

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@TheOcular Don't sell your Harley... Aptera has not produced anything in 16 years and is never going to deliver on its promises. I suggest you ask for your deposit back before its too late.

[@TLamparter]

I love how at 23:38 the back go-pro just rolls off like it had enough.

[@marekw.9816]

Lol, I thought that was pieces falling off the car.

[@breakingames7772]

that was part of the fender, the entire thing keeps rattling so much it will eventually weaken, crack and break off, they need to be stronger. and i love how he keeps saying "a car you never need to plug in" you only get 20 miles of charging per 12 hour day, it would take 2 weeks outside for it to fully charge to full from 0, 7 days if you add the rear hatch charging roof that is an extra 25,000 dollars

[@xoallison12ox]

It sounds very rattle-y the entire video.

[@TesserId]

I just noticed a change in the go-pro mountings. So funny. It obviously was not one take.

[@meatisomalley]

@@breakingames7772 SO MUCH misinformation here. 1: that was definitely not the rear fender. If you pause it at the right frame, you can see the lens of the camera. 2: unless you're going on a road trip, you probably don't need more than 20-40 miles per day. That means you either never have to charge, or maybe if drive a little further / live in a darker area and drain 10 miles a day, once every few months. 3. Solar costs $900 NOT $25,000! range goes from 400 miles at $25k to 1000 miles at $49k. This is probably what you're referring to.

[@drakeorion94]

This would be great for people that live in apartment buildings that do not have a charging infrastructure!

[@humbughumbughumbug]

Even if you don't have solar due to the apartment casting a shadow, if you can snake out a 110V cord through the window, you'll still be charging significant mileage/hr compared to any other EV on the market.

[@mazdarx7887]

hehehe, If your apartment has outdoor parking. Most newer apartment buildings have underground parking. I guess you could set up a bunch of mirrors and direct the sunlight to the car

[@humbughumbughumbug]

@@mazdarx7887 spray the concrete with chrome?

[@mpetersen6]

The one thing that it seems the geniuses who want everybody to go electric is not everybody has ready access to charging. Plus don't anyone ever tell me that electric cars are non polluting. They may be less but completely clean. Not when you take into consideration the construction of the vehicle, batteries, charging system, tire wear etc.

[@mazdarx7887]

@@mpetersen6 Not so much worried about the recycling aspect, that will take care of itself as demand requires. big question is where do all the electricity come form since the oil, gas, and coal fired plants a being shut down? The grid fails often with current loads. It takes years to build hydro or nuclear plants.

[@rickx1621]

Jay's driving is all over the road between lanes... The vehicle is GREAT way better than any other vehicles on the road... and sustainable and NEVER have to charge it. Wish they could reduce the price. Their idea is TOTALLY right

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

The company unfortunately is a completely scam.

[@lucywucyyy]

i wish there were more cars like this

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

There are no cars like this... Aptera is a scam

[@Josh-kt9qh]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 what makes you say this?

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@Josh-kt9qh Aptera is a classic example of a vaporware investment scam... they have made nothing but false promises for over 17 years.

[@nicholasgardiner9601]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Both your assertions are false. Put up or shut up.

[@jayswift3349]

@Josh he assumes since they failed to bring it to market previously it's a scam. There's a lot of shady start ups. I don't think Aptera is one of them. They are clearly devoted to bringing the vehicle to market.

[@braxtonnelson7422]

I remember when this vehicle was first shown 13 years ago... I wondered what ever happened to the program. I am very gratified to see that it has continued in development and is becoming a reality! Also, big kudos to Jay who has always been at the forefront of presenting new and upcoming technology in vehicle design. I really love the turbine-like whine of the motors!

[@weatheranddarkness]

lot of drama involving new investors who didn't understand the concept, who then left the workers in the factory out to dry. It was a moment not all that unlike seeing rows of GM EV1s at the crusher. Tesla managed to make enough noise and make enough of the right moves just about then to really pull mainstream electrics to a much more standard car ethos.

[@braxtonnelson7422]

@@weatheranddarkness I was excited to see the prototypes of the Elio 3 wheeler about a decade ago. I really thought we would see it in production by now, but it seems as though the rumors are running rampant about what looked to be a very promising vehicle. Let's hope that some of these possible commuter vehicles finally come to fruition!

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@braxtonnelson7422 I never understood the thinking behind the elio. It's basically a Twizzy with doors? What purpose does it serve?

[@braxtonnelson7422]

@@weatheranddarkness From my own perspective, when the Elio was first announced and the prototype was being shown, it was intended to be a commuter vehicle. Differences between the Elio and the Twizy are more than just the doors! The Twizy is a 4-wheeled, battery powered city "car" (although it is usually classified as a quadricycle). The Elio is a 3-wheeled, petrol engined autocycle (as it is called in the U.S.), and as such, avoids many of the requisites for being considered an automobile here. The Twizy, unlike the Elio, was never intended for the U.S. market.

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@braxtonnelson7422 the class doesn't matter. The use case is what interests me. As far as I can tell with zero storage it's what, to get one person to work if they don't need to bring any materials with them? The Elio and Twizzy are replacements for a bus, rather than replacements for a car.

[@daveydo2000]

I have an Aptera on order. I'm looking forward to zipping around town in it.

[@mockingbird187]

It's a good point about wanting to be discrete. I would want this to be my only vehicle, and if I got the long-range version, it could accomplish all the tasks (well, one other seat would be great, but not essential)... but I don't like the idea of drawing so much attention when driving around the Baja peninsula.

[@zeketeccnc1207]

Glad to see Aptera is back. Hope they make it to production this go around.

[@TheRinzler2]

Best of luck guys! I wish you the best in your endeavors.

[@thisfeatureisstupidxo]

okay i want one . love the variety on here , jay

[@jeffw9232]

I kept expecting to see the roof open to expose a pod rising up out of the opening that would extend a telescoping shaft straight up while simultaneously sprouting helicopter blades. The blades begin to spin as the vehicle rises into the air. Cut to: Jay inside stroking a white cat, "Farewell, Mr. Bond!" Love Jay & this channel!

[@m.san.9512]

Will be good for my kids when in college.

[@Kimbrough87]

The battery warranty will be something very important for their sales so hopefully they have a long warranty being a new company. ⚡

[@paulmcdonald9592]

Thant vehicle is so cool. Thanks, Jay for showcasing it.

[@mach5k]

Jay thanks for the review. Put in my preorder a while ago so great to see it in real life operation. I was impressed with a number of your questions.

[@artsmith103]

Clearing up the ground clearance was huge for me.

[@ryandg2008]

He asked some really good questions.

[@mxdr65]

Very cool!! I want one. Of course Jay always asks all the right questions. Excited to see the final phase of this vehicle.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Vaporware scams like Aptera never reach a production vehicle.

[@jeffbybee5207]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 wonder if when it starts production will you apologize and admit you were wrong

[@warhog258]

@@jeffbybee5207 The company has been known as a vaporware for a long time.

[@MrGamelover23]

@@warhog258 this seems to be their least vapor product since their inception.

[@davepeterschmidt5818]

@@warhog258 The company was only formed a couple years ago. What happened a decade ago with the previous company is not an issue.

[@toddcaspersen8041]

it needs to have an external sound system to you can make engine sounds, and the Jetsons car sound needs to be the default sound.

[@tuckersbaby]

Please no. The electric whir is enough; if you want a growl, get a proper V8.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

It already makes a loud sucking sound like a vacuum cleaner... the sound of suckers getting their wallets emptied!

[@RealBenAnderson]

No thanks. Silence is a feature of EVs, not a bug. If you want to be obnoxious, put a fart can on a Civic.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@RealBenAnderson Its not an advantage for the increasing number of pedestrians injured and killed by EVs every year. Of course you are twice as likely to die in a EV related fire if you own one. Insurance rates for EVs have doubled recently due to high number of claims, the problem is so bad Tesla Motors has been forced to offer its own vehicle and homeowner insurance to boost flagging vehicle sales

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 the rate of EV fires per million miles traveled is far lower than for ICE vehicles according to US government data.

[@useemehere2]

I love seeing Jay Leno driving the Aptera EV. This is going to be number 1 selling EV for student and ordinary people who don't want to spend Gas money or pay for electric charging because they can save a thousand dollar on their gas money with just parking every day outside the sun.

[@peterjorgensen3]

Exactly!

[@mpetersen6]

Don't worry. The State and Federal government will come up up with away to charge the owners of electric vehicles to make up for the lost taxes they would have payed in the taxes applied to the cost of gas or diesel fuel. The money paid for road upkeep has to come from someplace.

[@Airman749]

When watching the Jay Leno’s garage video below, something that Chris Anthony ( Co CEO of Aptera motors) said at minute 13:00 REALLY REALLY caught my attention that I don’t think many understood just how revolutionary/groundbreaking it is. Chris said : “ we only need a kilowatt and a half to push Aptera at highway speed” so 1500watts!! That’s pretty amazingly small amount of energy to keep a car moving at highway speed. Two things really strike me about that. 1) that’s about the same amount of energy needed to power a small compact, inexpensive electric room heater, or a microwave, and pretty amazing that small amount of energy can keep an Aptera moving down the road at highway speeds. 2) the full solar package on Aptera produces 700watts, so this means the solar cells are providing almost HALF the power needed to push an Aptera down the highway on a sunny day! Revolutionary to say the least!

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

According to Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson, neither Jay Leno or Chris Anthony are automotive engineers they just play them as characters on camera... In real life Jay is a comedian and Chris Anthony is a _Joke_

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Sander is just sour because he missed out on all the money that investors in the lithium battery company Chris Anthony founded and took public as CEO made.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@n.brucenelson5920 The joke is on you!

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Let me compliment you on a VERY CLEVER comeback!

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@@n.brucenelson5920 speaking of comebacks, will Aptera appoint you as the new CEO after Steve and Chris run off with all the money like they did in 2008???