Aptera Owner's Club special factory tour and Q&A Part 1/2

[@TheDapperham]

"It's not made public yet but it's....." Great cut, Steve. Every new video makes me more and more confident of a 2024 delivery for at least a couple of hundred.

[@milsonian]

Still chuckling, it is a perfect cut indeed ..I was hoping that got caught and filtered because I KNEW the mic picked it right up. This is why I say Steve had the tougher job on these 🙂

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

Just FYI in case people think that that information is coming in the next video. It is not. 1. The mic didn't actually pick up the answer. 2. If it did I would have to cut it out because that information is not public yet . 😅

[@milsonian]

Oh, even better...those mics always surprise me.

[@ccibinel]

@@ApteraOwnersClub Do you think this is just for the larger cells and EVE is still in the picture for the 2170s or did that deal die with the new CTNS agreement? I'm still hopeful for an eventual pivot to LFP or sodium ion for the 250/400 (well after production starts) as it will increase life, improve safety and reduce costs.

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

I'm not sure. I get the feeling that a lot of things are still in flux. But i think EVE energy is still going to be a source for the first cells. I don't see a transition to LFP in the next few years because they would have to redesign their pack.

[@brad_Ca]

This video just made me even more enthusiastic about Aptera. Definitely can't wait to see my Aptera in my garage. 😊

[@paulas_lens]

I am definitely going to do the "Pilgrimage", for sure. It is part of my whole dream.

[@unclegeorge7845]

In by train (19th century) and out by Aptera (21st century).

[@romad357]

Airport shuttle from Prescott to Phoenix. Airplane to San Diego airport. SD airport to Carlsbad hotel TBD. Hotel to Aptera TBD. Aptera from Carlsbad to Prescott.

[@TheDapperham]

I'm going down to take a peek next week. Have an appointment set up to try on Gamma! Pretty stoked!

[@unclegeorge7845]

@@romad357 Given it some thought have you?

[@unclegeorge7845]

@@TheDapperham As you should be. Best wishes.

[@milsonian]

Sorry for the crunchy audio moments, I wanted to enjoy the tour so wore a chest cam, and my badge, beard etc. all became a struggle at times 😂

[@deanmcmanis9398]

No worries. Thanks for the coverage.

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

It was great thanks Milson

[@josephgallagher1440]

Thanks Milson and provided some great new information!

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

So, you provided the trove of information. Thanks a lot. We appreciate🙏

[@inomad1313]

I love how Chris addresses questions and immediately gets back on track.

[@lectricbill3329]

Yeah, it's almost as if he had some practice.😁

[@christopherbarrett9749]

Great to see this, and Chris seems very confident! Missing a big investment is still a problem, however he seems to think it will be happening. My gut says true. The π( production intent) vehicle when validation has occurred, the the risk becomes negligible, therefore those whales should pay a higher price per share. Opportunity lost to those whales, but I think the concept is so strong, that it will attract more funding. Thanks again #28 Steve. My number has fallen a fair amount. Looking forward to getting the 4th day of production, Steve yours will be day one. 40 a day, means a couple of months after they start producing the Accelerator Program will be on the roads. Thanks for your continuous eagle eye on the Aptera Motors company.

[@stevemontana1878]

Steve, this was an awesome add and thank you to whoever did the work for you here. So much new insight here.

[@milsonian]

I just wore a chest cam, but thanks, glad it's getting out there on our most consolidated community!

[@louisjov]

The manual PRNDL backup is such a relief. I like technology, but i don't totally trust it, and for essential modes like PRNDL, a backup is essential

[@deanmcmanis9398]

Thanks Steve, Milson, for this informative video.

[@jerrymolnar8010]

At the beggining Chris said they’ll be getting Debt financing in a couple weeks with equity following shortly. This sounds like it’s DEFINITELY going to have first accelerator vehicles by EOY.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

He also stated the PI units would be arriving in the next couple months. That should then allow them to begin validating range, etc

[@DemaGeek]

Good work guys! Chris and Steve are releasing more and more detail all the time which is great to ponder. You can see Aptera's production dial-in as each of the last decisions fall into place. I agree about your cliff-hanger editing Steve, well done!!

[@Rich1Rodriguez]

Thanks for posting. My tidbit: Burn rate of ~ $1.2 million / month.

[@josephgallagher1440]

Thanks for sharing! There is some really good and new information within this video, thanks again Steve.

[@andrewfuller8440]

I am an investor and have ordered two vehicles, one is a launch edition. I hope to receive it in Carlsbad, hopefully this year #931 as I’m getting older and want to do this while I’m able bodied.

[@cingkole7893]

thx for supporting Aptera! I'm too young and broke to invest myself.

[@TheDapperham]

I'm 66 and #108. Plan on driving home this year...

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

🤣

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

Lol maybe in 2-3 years at best. No chance you're getting a car this year.

[@andrewfuller8440]

@@TheDapperham I’m a lot older than that.

[@LiveLoveLyle]

Let’s go Aptera!

[@apteratime]

2 people taking 1 hour per vehicle wrap is still 16 man hours per 8 vehicles a day, but that's a far faster wrap than anything I'm familiar with. Still likely much better to wrap pre-assembly for several reasons though. Lots of interesting info in this video.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

Chris stated that in house it would be quicker

[@apteratime]

I believe he means quicker than a typical wrap job, not quicker than 1 hour. QA is a bigger issue with post-assembly wrapping than with pre-assembly wrapping as well, etc.

[@kevinjensen9803]

There is relatively little wrap needed for an Aptera compared to other vehicles, so with pre-cut film the installation should take less time comparatively.

[@g60dood]

I just don't understand why they're not getting big investors. This vehicle makes so much sense without even considering environmental benefits.

[@gtg737x]

Big money = Big legal contracts. Also, most big money houses want to own more of the company than Chris&Steve are willing to give up.

[@tskogen6905]

I don’t expect to see dividends in shares for a while. However I do expect to see the value of the stock to increase dramatically.

[@fitybux4664]

They have "risky hype" out there right now. Lots of people with pumped up expectations, and maybe without realizing there's still a lot of unknowns of how this vehicle will be publicly perceived. Will you be able to drive it on a freeway without being figuratively murdered out there, or will it drive like toy car that only does side streets? How will the suspension handle? How will it drive in different weather conditions?

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

These big pockets are afraid of investing in things they don't quite get and they don't control. Besides, the market is presently niche and there are headwinds from incumbents. But they will come around if Aptera holds on to the end. They always do.

[@billsmith5960]

I makes sense to fans but not people that have money and consultants that want to look into the company in detail. Maybe the details don't look so good. Another reason is because three wheelers never have sold well here in the US. Currently, they are play toys and sell in low volume. Then there are the big claims the company has. Another red flag. The idea of when it gets out on the street, people will flock to it. That might work for a Stanley Cup but for a big ticket item. It does not. Then, Chris and Steve would have to lose some control. They won't let that happen. Makes it more difficult to get that money.

[@cruzer01]

Moving forward!

[@Bryansilvousplaît]

This was really cool - man I wish I worked for them.

[@Salanan]

Chris really got bombarded by y'all, he's trying to lead a tour and getting questions outta left field non stop. 😂

[@ddessert6]

Every video reveals something new and shows that progress is being made. There seems to be a focus on "low volume" production and that high volume production will take more money and time. Low volume builds are obviously the PI builds but will that extend into actual production builds going out to customers? There also seems to be some hesitation as to when the PI builds will arrive in Carlsbad. Unless they are flying the vehicles to CA which Chris indicated as a possibility, shipping is going to take about 4 weeks, so realistically speaking, we are looking at April before we see the PI builds in CA. Hopefully the equipment at CPC Group is not going to sit idle and that they are continuing to build components. The molds are not going to change at this point.

[@LanderMaybe]

At least the first one should be flown in so they can do a fit and finish check on all the parts, as soon as possible. to determine if any parts need to be modified and retooled.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

Chris stated 2 months for some PI builds to arrive

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

Literally nothing has changed at this factory in 3 months other than the piles of stuff. They quote making 10 solar assemblies a day now, yet there are none shown.

[@VedaSay]

That is just beautiful watching you guys walk the floor!

[@terrya6486]

Lots of information on that one

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

Whoa! Thanks Steve, for sharing. When your cherished explanations and take?

[@johnt6508]

Thanks guys! Great video!

[@randylewis4242]

It seems to still be up in the air if the units from CPC will have the Alaphe motors or not. Are there not units already in transit? If the decision has not been made, and it decided to add them in CPC, won't it take at least a couple of months to sort out the logistics? Just trying to understand how realistic it is to assume PI testing will begin in April.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

That is not what it sounded like to me. It sounded like Chris was talking about production models initially coming from CPC with the Elaphe motors installed, and smaller transport dolly wheels. But this wouldn't necessarily affect the timeline of the PI models.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

Based on what I heard the Elaphe motors will be installed.

[@josephgallagher1440]

@@deanmcmanis9398 Agreed and heard the same.

[@randylewis4242]

My only quibble is he said "likely" and not definitely, which sounded to me that it had not been finalized.

[@merrickhurst4150]

I'm in for the pilgrimage from Florida.

[@jeremymar]

Me too in Wisconsin and can't wait to fly to California and drive my Aptera home!!!

[@harriettanthony7352]

This writer also will drive his Aptera to New England IF?When/? its built BUT not in Winter

[@njdevilku1340]

Im coming from NJ!!! Wanna travel together?

[@garywozniak7742]

I'm about a 1,000 mile north of Carlsbad up in Oregon. I'll have to make the call on if I want to make the drive in two, or three days. Most likely three and I hope it's not in the winter. I hear that there can be some rough driving in the mountains in northern CA/southern Oregon. I'd hate to have to chains on its maiden voyage.

[@chunmartinez5401]

I'm coming from Florida too. From Miami and I'm in the mid 300s.

[@IDNHANTU2day]

I'm packed and ready to get to Carlsbad from Los Angeles. Just waiting for the call. 😊

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

Better unpack, going to be a few years.

[@lectricbill3329]

@@user-dr2pg8fk2i You mean months.

[@johnyoung376]

These are the best questions I have heard asked. Well done!

[@markbeasom5252]

Fascinating!

[@osimmac]

i loved the ending

[@theninjineer]

Fantastic insights! Thank you for the video.

[@amosbatto3051]

So they know who the battery cell manufacturer will be, but Chris says at the end "that's not made publicly available." I'm hoping it is still EVE Energy, because their NMC 2170's have an energy density of 290 Wh/kg which is pretty impressive. My biggest worry is the cycle life of those cells, but I'm guessing they will at least last 1200 cycles before 20% capacity loss, which should be enough to last the lifetime of the vehicle for most people, but I would love to see people extending the lifespan with new battery packs and new infotainment systems.

[@DrTeeHenry]

Great conversational Q&A tour. Lot's of nice tidbits. I'm a bit disheartened by the seemingly major things that are still in flux (e.g., how the Carlesbad assembly process will need to change based on what CPC will be providing, which itself is apparently not all ironed out yet; also, the nature of the partnership with the battery pack supplier still seems to be fluid). But I guess flexibility and adaptability is a plus. Being able to make changes "on the fly" with minimal trauma avoids premature obsolescence, as CA eluded to.

[@daytonclaudio689]

I agree. But I think the fact that Chris and Steve are the designers AND the CEOs means they are adaptable and capable of problem solving on the fly. If this company was run by MBA corporate guys I think they would fail. (like the first Aptera attempt).

[@unclegeorge7845]

Thanks Steve, The real question and where Chris could make some money is on how he's lost so much weight in the last 18 months.

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

Yes I noticed that too!

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

Only the good Lord knows what he has through this period.

[@jerrymolnar8010]

Love and hate the cliffhanger ending all at the same time! 😂 good one Steve;-)

[@ccibinel]

I think I watched it like 10 times to try to make out some syllables. I'm pretty sure the first word is 2 syllables and the second starts with a harsh exhale like that sounded like a "pe". This rules out samsung, panasonic, CATL, Goshen Hitech and BYD

[@jerrymolnar8010]

@@ccibinel we’re just gona have to wait for part 2 😂

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

Sorry to disappoint but it won't be in part 2. the microphone didn't pick it up :P

[@jerrymolnar8010]

@@ApteraOwnersClub doooh!! Such a tease ;-)

[@saxman657]

Very interesting. I’m a bit frustrated with how the information on tours like this are announced. I only live 1 hour north of Aptera and could easily make the trip down without any travel arrangements. 😢

[@chunmartinez5401]

Not the tour itself but it was announced that members of the channel will traveling to the electric vehicle association annual meeting at aptera.

[@saxman657]

When is this supposed to take place? First I have heard about this too!

[@johntrotter8678]

No one does public disclosure like Aptera.

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

The most transparent company ever. Don't forget it is not VC owned or controlled. It least not yet.

[@garywozniak7742]

Thank you for the video. It must have been a great vist. I do have a question. There was talk of having a connector that would allow an external solar solar panel to be plugged in to add additional charging. Is that making it into the LE ?

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

I've asked about that several times and that seems extremely unlikely at this point. They are trying to lock down feature creep and get the LE manufactured and in customer hands and thats a feature that isn't going to make it I don't think.

[@kevinjensen9803]

Chris Anthony has stated in earlier videos that if the wiring and plugs are not provided on the LE for connecting additional solar panels that it will be available as an add-on modification in the future - and the the solar charge controller provided in the LE will be capable of handling the additional output of about 1kw of additional solar panels.

[@p.antoniolindsay1767]

Excellent video!

[@TogetherinParis]

The Aptera wiring harness is an improvement on an idea of mine for Tesla. I suggested one power circuit and use the (higher voltage) power wire to supply signals to turn things on and off and such. There was too much noise in the power line so they ran an extra ethernet wire for signals, but it saved a lot of weigh irrespectively. I would have tried AC and digitizing the power line to avoid noise, but that wasn't feasible either I guess.

[@jakeeaves218]

Come to Texas Aptera!

[@fitybux4664]

It almost sounded like he said "PANASONIC" at the end. 😆 (Why wouldn't it be Panasonic???)

[@petedawg]

New York State would love to have a manufacturing plant and would likely provide incentives.

[@DaBinChe]

The aspiring sales numbers are way optimistic. I'm thinking it'll be more like Miata numbers.

[@RichardWarren-jv1ft]

As Aptera approaches production and sale, some crucial details regarding money vs. options remain unanswered for those of us who do not think the often mentioned $40,000 is inexpensive. Please to press Aptera to provide clear and accurate data for each option so buyers can decide rationally which options fit their needs and pocket book. Examples: off road option: what do you get for $1000 and what driving conditions does it improve vs the cost to performance; the same to awd, etc.

[@gr8dvd]

Off topic (kinda): Chrysler's experimental gas turbine engine documentary… kzbin.info/www/bejne/nICso3Vnm9yJhsU (1h+). Fascinating for car buffs and lessons for Aptera (marketing)… seeding cars where they’d be seen and hot-wheels version.

[@johnreeves7261]

Did I hear Chris say the Maxeon solar cells are 50 micron thick and that there are ~6 pounds of Maxeon solar cells on the vehicle? Spec sheet says it's more like 150 micron and 6.6 grams per cell. Please check my math but 6.6 grams per cell x 189 cells = 1.25 kg = 2.7 pounds. Also, no, the "old type" of solar cells did not go "dead" when cracked. He's quite misinformed on that note.

[@aaronknight1009]

Can you find out if Aptera is aware of WiTricity and planning to integrate their wireless charging system, like Tesla and BMW are?

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

They are aware, it won't be in the launch edition as far as I know. Maybe in the future...

[@lectricbill3329]

Very inefficient compared to wired charging.

[@RomanChaar]

Only $1.2 million burn rate a month? Can someone show this?

[@billsmith5960]

SEC filings have all the financials in it.

[@RomanChaar]

@@billsmith5960 I think the last one said their operating costs were well over 50 million

[@montanaerdoc]

" Our burn rate is about 1.2 ish million per month" Our crowd funding is about 6 million a month. We could reach production with crowd funding. "It would take one plus years to reach production" with crowd funding alone.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

"Our crowd funding is about 6 million a month." Where are you getting that info?

[@jonj9149]

@@user-dr2pg8fk2i Within the first 2 minutes of the video that you are posting this comment on.

[@montanaerdoc]

It's at 1:20 @@user-dr2pg8fk2i

[@montanaerdoc]

it's at 1:20

[@tskogen6905]

Is anybody seen the leaderboard lately that up to 2050 and over 34 million raised. I wonder how many more would have invested if they’d had one more day. Lots of FOMO at the end especially from prior investors.

[@pezpengy9308]

at this point the lease on my eniro is up in a few months and i hoped to have the aptera by then. not sure what to do, we need two cars and i cant ride my electric motorcycle to work.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

Buy an EV that exists. Aptera won't for the foreseeable future.

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

I think it's more than a year out for most people so I would plan accordingly

[@pezpengy9308]

at this point were probably going to just buy the eniro and then sell it when the aptera comes available. were also in hawaii so i have no clue about the process of getting the car here which im assuming is going to take even more time. at least i have a motorcycle license if i need it. @@ApteraOwnersClub

[@montanaerdoc]

At 47 seconds Chris says they are pretty close to a debt deal, "I think we'll have a debt deal in a couple weeks." Lets see if this is true or not!

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

If that materializes the way he stated it, that would be the deal that could make AT LEAST ONE LE delivery possible at the end of the year,. But I doubt.

[@jackgreenstalk777]

Why not partner with flux power? Seems like they would benefit eachother.

[@SteveBueche1027]

Maybe it might be looked at as a conflict of interest?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

It wouldn't surprise me if there will be some partnerships in the future. However, for the time being, the two companies are using different battery tech.

[@robertkirchner7981]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Light weight is not a priority in the forklift industry, apparently!

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@robertkirchner7981 Most conventional forklifts have to add extra weight to counterbalance the load.

[@namenotshown9277]

Seems Chris' Epic boat company went bankrupt? anyone got info on that one? Now he has Flux Power batteries, wonder how that is going? Hope he makes this work otherwise alot of people are going to be taken for a ride, and not an electric one

[@jsmay311]

At 7:18 Chris says "Every 30 pounds of weight we add to the Aptera..." but then I can't make out the rest of the sentence. Anybody know what he said?

[@kevinjensen9803]

Yea, I could not heard exactly what he said to finish that statement. I think that Chris has stated previously that every 30 pounds added reduces range by 1 percent (?) So maybe it was something like that.

[@schtinerbock4570]

I can imagine just how much cheaper that factory would be in Texas like the small towns around the ports of Houston. Sooo cheap! I must admit it makes me sad to see that factory just sitting there not doing anything. Can't wait for them to get rolling.

[@robertkirchner7981]

If the Aptera owners map is any indication there are far more Apterians east of the Mississippi than west. Their second assembly location should be somewhere in the eastern or midwest USA.

[@Fairburne69]

I wish I could help with $20,000 of my own money to help Aptera. In fact right now I could buy I'm losing my job within the next 6 months and my future financially is uncertain. Once a new job is secure and my future is more certain maybe I can help more.

[@ab3000x]

Chris sounds like Sandy Munro. #leandesign

[@njdevilku1340]

9:12 torque setting of screws being wrong??? We don't want a door panel flying off like Alaska airlines!!!

[@jefferylegere]

some of the velcro adjustments were really badly timed.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

If the solar cells have experienced cracking, there is a much larger issue at play. The note of perovskites is hilarious. The tech won't be viable for at least 10 years in this application.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Maxeon is the supplier of the Aptera cells, not Sunpower - a separate company.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Forgot about the separation, removed that bit. Thanks!

[@jasmineg8177]

'Promo SM'

[@andrewwolf4430]

Owners club????? Do any of you physically possess a craptera?

[@paulas_lens]

But...p

[@GaryGreenway]

I was going over the list of cell manufacturers in my head that start with P. Seems likely we know then.

[@CaptMatt1]

Pan..

[@edzelmejia3233]

Watch these videos = Get a car.

[@believein1]

It’s a bit strange how fanboys go to things like these and talk to actual people from a company as if they are part of the company too, or as if they have some place in everything.

[@garywozniak7742]

What a sad comment.

[@fotoguru222]

If you buy stock in it, you can be part of the company too.😀

[@tamertips1305]

Trust me, if Aptera has to survive the upcoming economic crisis, it has to sell cars at a lower price point. There's going to be a flood of used car inventory that will hit the market soon, driving down prices. Look at the bigger picture. Aptera must capture market share. I hope it does. The idea is to sell the Aptera at a manageable loss for the 1st year, allowing more people to get their hands on it, then slowly ramp up prices.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

The monthly cost of keeping those used cars on the road is going to be far higher than operating an Aptera, and will do a lot to make up the difference for those who are in the market for the utility that Aptera offers.

[@tamertips1305]

@n.brucenelson5920 Most people(unfortunately) look at sticker price when buying, not the cost of operating over the lifetime of the product. It's not prudent, but that's how most consumers are. Either ways, this is going to play out sooner than most expect it. Let's Brace ourselves!

[@ubaldinovega5775]

What upcoming economic crisis?

[@tamertips1305]

@@ubaldinovega5775 Good one! 😆

[@tamertips1305]

@@ubaldinovega5775 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6WraKSDpKiLfNEsi=p5LkzRHQmNG2SJMT

[@Soothsayer210]

I have heard horror stories of Tesla Owners getting stuck in the car with their battery completely dead and the car on a fire. Does Aptera have anything to open the door manually in the event of a complete failure of electrical systems?

[@SteveBueche1027]

Tesla has a manual release in all their cars. It’s a two click/staged button. First click is electric, raise it higher for manual release. My 2021 had it.

[@michaelainsworth6849]

Yes, they said a manual lever will be put near the front of the seat near the door. They moved it from the back side of the seat so it would be easier to access.

[@billsmith5960]

A Corvette has a lever on the floor for the manual release. Plus a manual release for the rear hatch then another for the filler door. Old tech that's been around. Aptera has already designed it and it's ready to go.

[@unclegeorge7845]

Sounds like more Tesla FUD to me.

[@Soothsayer210]

@@michaelainsworth6849 I have seen some videos out there of people breaking the window to escape from fire. Why did they have do to that then? Is there a possibility that the manual switch needs power to unlock the door? I am not sure.

[@GNiessen]

I wonder which billionaires he talked to.

[@billsmith5960]

Bill Gates.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

@@billsmith5960 Lol, maybe the intern who gets coffee for Bill's assistant.

[@billsmith5960]

@@user-dr2pg8fk2i - Warren Buffett or Jeff Bezos then. Remember, they just need to give Aptera the money and not tell them how to do business.

[@jonj9149]

Palmer Luckey

[@merrickhurst4150]

He cracked that solar cell really easily...

[@ASawyerInAZ]

It wasn't attached to anything so that would not surprise me at all

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

You're making cars....why the hell would it make any sense to produce them on the most expensive real estate in the world? Look at other regions or revitalization of past industrial centers.

[@billsmith5960]

They are using an "Italian Supercar Manufacturer" to build the rollers and they need to ship them across the Atlantic and then either go through the Panama Canal or ship them across the US. I'm not understanding the cost when it could be done much cheaper by building on the SE US and shipping those presses over here to the US. Then build them all in one plant.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

@@billsmith5960 The idea of a kit car would be something I'd actually invest money into since I'll never get to see my reservation car. Aluminum rib and skin body like an airplane. Rivet it together and simple use their CADs and hardware. Make it so the solar could be added later if wanted.

[@billsmith5960]

@@user-dr2pg8fk2i - People talked about that with the Elio too.

[@andromedach]

I really don't understand how they would have eight per container given the dimensions of even a high cube container. There is no way given it is a full body Aptera that is being shipped with suspensions and wheels because Steve said it was a rolling vehicle at that point just without power and the debate was to install batteries in Italy or not but to use a RORO would also require the interior and controls to drive it. Given just the length of the Aptera only two can fit end to end and wheels on it is 57 inches tall and 177 inches long! A high cube 40' container is 106 inches tall and 476 inches long inside . To fit three end to end would require a maximum length of 160 inches. So either Chris doesn't know what he is talking about or what they told us is being done in Italy isn't true anymore. If they did not have wheels or motors on them, Steve said motors are installed as its just four hours away, I am not sure you can even stack them ... but assuming two on top of each other at most four fit unless the front crash structure isn't there and even then at most six. I am not believing this The his conversation went on it is clear he does not know what he is talking about. Let alone the idea of air freight some of these???? you have to be kidding. Sorry none of what he says makes sense.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

Wow, you know everything. I suspect Chris knows what he's talking about but they could possibly be put vertically. Either way, I don't care as long as they are shipping. They aren't talking about all of them built this way. From what I remember they only stated the first 200 would be built by CPC

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

Spot on analysis.

[@chrisrudzinski6241]

​@ASawyerInAZ First 200 I believe was in reference to the battery packs being built by their new Korean partnership

[@ASawyerInAZ]

@@user-dr2pg8fk2i it was stated a newer video that the first 200 bodies would be from CPC. They would then train people in Carlsbad. I can't swear that hasn't changed but that was the plan within the last 2 weeks

[@richevanscpa]

They aren’t rectangular cubes, so I imagine there are stacking efficiencies involved.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

The accelerator program was incredibly insulting to everyone who was first in line as investors.

[@richevanscpa]

The IPO will salve those hurts extravagantly!

[@jonj9149]

The first in line Wefunder investors purchased Aptera stock at $0.44/share. If they feel incredibly insulted as you claim, please send them my way. I can probably find a way to pay them $0.44/share for their Aptera stock.

[@saxman657]

I felt the same way, but it was a necessary evil to get this program rolling. I moved into the launch edition thinking I would get it sooner than my 7,000+ number - and will, but not until the first 10,000 are delivered to the richer folks. That’s ok as long as the cars keep rolling out. Perhaps any bugs that are found in those first 2,000 are ironed out by time my Launch Edition comes down the pike.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

I'm sure that they would have felt worse if they lost their investment because production never began. Or was delayed by another year. If volume production begins later this year then they will still likely get their EVs quicker than if there was no additional funding through the Accelerator program.

[@rmigalla]

I'm 😞 sad to hear that. I wasn't aware of that. May I know more? Are you also a reservation holder, or are you only an investor?

[@andromedach]

No offense but his constant talking off the top of his head really conveys the fact they don't have a solid plan. He really was winging it far too often for my tastes. Man he got obviously touchy when asked about their claim of ten panels a day - he would not even look at the guy asking and then waved off saying they needed five times the equipment

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

Smells more and more like Trevor Milton.

[@J9_j3]

1st

[@MrRandomguyTom]

Factory tour? And where is the factory? This looks like a big garage, not a factory that wants to mass produce "cars" 😂 Anyone that believes this company will ever deliver more than 10 "cars" is so naive and delusional. All they have is a prototype the quality university students can make in a year and some nice CGI... Much wow 😂

[@n.brucenelson5920]

You haven't been paying attention, and calling others "naive" when you clearly don't know what is happening or how things work self descriptive. Just check out the patent portfolio and the real parts being produced by tools costing millions.