Salt River Cave Massacre: Skeleton Cave Explored (part 2 of 2)

[@lorenzocassa4981]

Just finished watching both parts of your video. I Must say you rarely come across films as informative as what you have uploaded for the public…worldwide. I am Apache/Pima, living on the San Carlos Apache Reservation. As a contemporary artist, I have heard and read many stories of escapes, ambushes, skirmishes, and massacres, but I have never heard of this account of Skull Cave. Whoever they were, it did tug on the heart strings only because they were of the same race and obviously had no chance of survival. But Geronimo was right when he said: “I cannot think that we are useless or God would not have created us. There is one God looking down on us all. We are all the children of one God. The sun, the darkness, the winds are all listening to what we have to say.” thank you very much for sharing.

[@panamared354]

the helicopter that you seen in the last video and this one is owned by SRP, witch owns and maintains the dams along the Rio Salado (the Salt River) they bring supplies, crews and equipment to the dams (cool way to get to and from work). I'm a native and have spent the last 5 decades roaming around these mountains and studying the local history, I have never heard of that cave being referred to as skeleton cave it has always been referred to as skull cave. in the video you did about the cliff dwellings you was wondering about the bottom of the door ways being protruding out a little it was designed to be closed off at night to prevent rattle snakes from entering. while you were in Superior you should have went to the old Pinal cemetery that is where Mattie Earp (Wyatt Earp wife) is buried. the first video you did you were not far from an old military camp called camp Reno on the other side of four peaks. by the way I want to thank you for caring and only leaving footprints in my backyard.

[@georik627]

Panama Red i'd like to hear more

[@panamared354]

@@georik627 hello, more about what?

[@terryjohnson8317]

Not much left of Camp Reno now. A few rock piles that held up the corral posts because Reno was a livery for messengers

[@curtismes]

@@terryjohnson8317 actually Reno was where Nanni Chaddi and Delshay 1st met with , then raided and ambushed the soldiers , where they got the attention of Crook and finally the ire enough to send this punitive expedition to Nanni Chaddis hideout (this cave) Nanni Chaddi was killed in the battle...the Pima and Maricopa scouts had to be restrained from killing the wounded and actually did kill a few survivors with their war clubs before the Soldiers stopped them...Nanni Chaddi and Delshay also made a habit of raiding Pima villages around Ft Reno.

[@97tj9]

Which.

[@DarkFilmDirector]

This battle/massacre was not committed on the Apache, it was Yavapai. The Apache were distinct neighbors to the east of the Yavapai. It makes more sense when explaining why Apache scouts would aid Lt Col Crook's campaign in the Yavapai War.

[@codyjamessingleton5098]

Ha! Classic Indian espionage.

[@tboned70]

Sadly the Military Threatened Others to Provide such Aid then Betray Them in the End afterwards,........

[@rodwoods2108]

You are right but they were considered part of a collective group called Apache. They were considered a lesser tribe not respected by the Apache that we know.

[@rodwoods2108]

@@tboned70 that happened to the Apache Kid who evaded the Army all his life. Finally to be killed by a teenager in a half baked posse. In the Apache Kid Wilderness, New Mexico.

[@rodwoods2108]

I am sure the Pima would have killed all the Apache if they could have.

[@nunyabuziness8421]

This guy has an uncanny natural ability for doing videos he explains everything he sees and seems to have a lot of knowledge about a lot of things

[@billrobbins5874]

Interesting, thank you. Do you have one of those GPS locators? Don't know how expensive they are.

[@stephenyoungman9293]

Better than anything on TV. Awesome video.

[@ljbrizo]

Tv never tells truth

[@kirkcavenaugh758]

Tv sucks.

[@brightlightstudiosus1313]

Yep

[@contentdeleted1063]

@@ljbrizo so true

[@livefreeordie45]

I really appreciate your efforts. This these two videos were both good and and sad. I am part Dakota. My great great Grandparents were killed by the Army during the Minnesota Wars resulting in 38 Indians being hung. This war started because of one local trader, Andrew Myrick, said of the Indians’ plight, “If they are hungry, let them eat grass.” He was later found dead with his mouth stuffed with grass. Had he been doing his job and giving the Indians their supplies this would not have happened. I wish I was younger I would love to go to Skeleton Caves but I am now 72 and have an incurable lung disease that is not possible. Watching you videos is a lift for me. Keep up the good work. PS. My wife and I have been to Arizona and loved it.

[@joshthemediocre7824]

No if Europeans would have stayed in Europe this would have never happened, Nobody should have had to give the Natives anything, they had been living relatively peacefully for 1000's of years before the whites, here we are just 150+ years later and most americans can't even take care of themselves or their families, a clear sign that this isnt going to work, but i'll keep watching the shit show.

[@curtismes]

@@joshthemediocre7824 relatively peaceful? lmao...ever heard of the Comanche? they drove the Sioux into the great plains and the Apache into New Mexico...lol you have no idea

[@MrIdasam]

@@joshthemediocre7824 Native Americans warred and slaughtered each other for centuries, they even kept their enemies as slaves. So, cut the b.s., you ignorant, racist.

[@kimcurtis423]

@@MrIdasam I'm afraid your use of the word SLAUGHTERED is a bit salacious! The most honored warriors of most Tribes were honored for touching an enemy and NOT killing him! Your warped view of history shows your ignorance and the fact that you haven't done much REAL research! Remember, history is told by the victor and seldom has much truth to it! I could go on but, I know from your comment that your mond is already made up! I have been studying Native histories from the Native AND the Whte viewpointss since I was 5 years old! I'm 69, now! So, when you can match that kind of research, then we can have a discussion!'

[@captaindein33]

Did the Indians hear his grass comment via social media? I dont understand how the Indians would know he was talking smack.

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Thank you for respecting the remains of the cousins left behind. Sadly this event of long ago is part of a long list, including Sand Creek, and Wounded Knee. Its always good when approaching a site like this to talk to the Spirits, tell them you come with respect to honor their memory. You did honor and remember, snd as you left, the thank you was given.. the best part of the otherwise tearful video, the 4 legged saying thank you.

[@rhondablack8563]

This video made me cry for our ancestors to be treated so badly. The bones got to mt!

[@johncorbin4881]

I am Seneca ...Sister ...Mom used to make native tacos at pow wows up and down the east coast to help fund leanord for his legal fund

[@markbecker71]

Really they had just murdered a bunch of farm families..🤠

[@stepevin923]

@@markbecker71 who took their lands...

[@centauri9458]

Absolutely right, respect the dead and memories. I wish they had got the Apache Scouts to give proper burials. Personally I wouldn't go into that cave spirits would still be hurting and may be angry. Ani-Yun-Wiya

[@statiadougherty]

My husband was watching this a couple of days ago. I don't normally watch a lot of TV, but I just subscribed to your channel, because it's right up my ally of what I love to do. Anyway, I want to thank you for posting this video. I remember reading about this tragic event in John G. Bourke's journal, On The Border With Crook, and was curious about the logistics since it was such a one-sided victory. I'll never be able to go there myself, so again, thank you. Statia

[@mikemagnum7987]

I feel the same as you regarding the complete lack of thought and respect that some people display at such sacred sites as this! The graffiti, nut shells and can lid all serve to leave a different kind of message for the people who come there several hundred or a thousand years from now...... I am ashamed and embarrassed for the fools who have no heart. Great conclusion to a very interesting video! You treated this subject with respect and consideration that only a man such as you could. Thank you Chig, I appreciated and enjoyed this video very much.

[@codyjamessingleton5098]

And what!? One day all land will be sacred and no new history can occur and the game of life will be over?

[@leobardorocha3081]

@@codyjamessingleton5098 what a stupid comment...

[@johnlea8519]

This one of the best videos on KZbin, I travelled to Arizona from the UK as I've always been fascinated by the history of the South West and the Apache and Navajo. Your video was a very respectfully done history lesson, thank you.

[@cabinfevercrafts1439]

A truly spiritual and respectful account. This is such important history and we are fortunate to have someone like you recognize the value of sharing with others. Thank you.

[@darthdennis6681]

Dude!! You are literally treading on sacred ground! Much respect for much respect....

[@jobnoy]

Loved it, thanks for taking us along and being so respectful.

[@charlesmartin1262]

Thanks for taking me along. Thank you for your reverence.

[@Capitalismhater]

Thanks for sharing this. I'm a big fan of your videos and I lived in Arizona for a long time and this is by far, my favorite video you've made. A lot of layers and history.

[@dalzoi]

I have total respect for the empathy you show for those who died there. As for the leavings of the pistachio nuts.. people just don't think. Sadly. This video, and the one previous, were quite sad, but this one especially. It's so sad that people leave their garbage. I remember going to a little cemetery by Rock Mill Dam, near Lancaster, OH, near an old mill that's now been restored, back in the early 70's. I remember my Mom crying.. There was a small family graveyard, and the name of a Capt. Kirk.. small children and at least one baby's headstone. Years later, went there with some friends, and the entire little family graveyard had been smashed and vandalized. It hurts my heart so badly now that tears come to my eyes. I would love to get a copy of that book and understand the spiritual aspect you feel for reading it. Many years ago, I had some horses, and bred an Appaloosa mare to a Quarter horse that my then bf owned. Found that his horse and my appys (all whom I'd gotten from him, foundation bred) were related, way way back. Anyway, Frivy had a filly who was born red, and I named her Sunny's Red Echo. I've always had an interest in Chief Joseph, which is why I'd always wanted an Appaloosa. (His Qtr. horse was named Sunny Crockett.) Anyway, I bought a book at a yard sale called "The Nez Perce Indians and the Opening of the Northwest". Lo and Behold... I found a Palouse Indian, a 34 year old warrior, named Hahtalekin, also known as Taktouskt Ilppilp, who help Chief Joseph. That name translates to "Red Echo". I did not know this at the time I named my new little filly. Explain that to me. Please?

[@lorimacias4901]

Hello, I live in Arizona and was on KZbin looking for abandoned ghost towns and came across your video. My husband's grand father is full APACHE and this attack makes me so sad. Indians are very strong spirited, I'm sure you could sense their energy there. Thank you for sharing!

[@mercedithcompala8148]

I never get tired of watching your time in this stronghold...it pulls at one's heart...

[@melanieronbrooks80]

My husband and I were deeply touched by your show of respect in covering over some of the remaining bone fragments. Your attention to detail of the attack and the first hand accounts brought to life a tragic time in American History. Thank you for sharing these videos.

[@charleshallier7853]

Hi Melanie and Ron 👋. I know it’s been a long time since you posted this comment. It seems you are personally understanding of what and how this nations forefathers treated our indigenous peoples. Their are way too many negative interactions with Union troops and our indigenous peoples. Another heart wrenching tale or

[@charleshallier7853]

Pardon me please. I accidentally sent the first post before I was finished. I was just giving you a far worse story so you can read about. This story is 100% correct and is horrific. It was referred to as the “Long walk.” It refers to the Union troops and mostly the Navajo peoples who had been rounded up and forced them to walk 180 miles to a Union Camp. Carried out over a few years. Give this sometime as it gets worse with every group that set out on the “Long Walk.”

[@Stranglewood]

Just wanted to say that when you spoke of reading that book by firelight and struggled for a moment for the words to come, as far as I was concerned you didn't have to finish that sentence. Spiritual is the only way to describe it. I'm new to your channel, and have been binging on your videos. I've been struck by your appreciation for law, the environment, animal life, and for our long dead predecessors. Add to that an eye for interesting detail, describing not only what you saw, but why - and it all amounts to the best channel on YT for this kind of content. I'm really impressed. And I've never said that in a YT comment. Well done.

[@todtiger]

beautiful but very sad video.

[@garyunderhill7827]

Chig...I grew up in Arizona for most of my life and not far from that location. Those are not bullet holes in the saguaro cactus. They're nesting holes from the cactus wren. As the hole is bored into the cactus by the wren, the cactus heals itself by creating a hardened shell almost like a hollow gourd that the wren then builds its nest in.

[@leestuart6749]

Bees will sometimes make their hive in those holes and owls will nest in there too.

[@theofficialdiamondlou2418]

I was thinking the same thing. On both points. Wren ,bees , yellow jackets . Although they could have originally been bullet holes that wrens saw as a possible source of food. And opened further and made nest. As we know they do. It’s hard to say for sure. But NOW their nest .... for sure.

[@SRLowther]

You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on this. They are indeed bullet holes! Over the years, I have hiked over a thousand miles in the desert, and bullet holes a hundred years old in the saguaro are not at all uncommon! I have even picked slugs out of saguaro ribs. Bullet holes in saguaro are a very old problem. If you do a little research, you will find many articles about it. Indeed, you will find cactus wrens and other birds nesting in holes they have pecked out of the cactus. A cellulose crust resembling wood forms around the cavity which is boot shaped, often used as a water and storage containers by indigenous peoples. These "saguaro boot" cavities resemble in no way the holes made by bullets and close range shotgun blasts which invariably go through and through. You will find that there are no such through-and-through holes in the thousands of saguaros immediately surrounding that area where the massacre took place.

[@DLathrop]

Sir, thank you. Thank you for fleshing out a historical moment, not only with history itself, but with geology, with the natural environment, and with emotion.

[@czredhead8286]

I love most of your videos but these last two were the very best in my opinion. Thank you for taking us along and sharing your experiences. I was pleased but not surprised that you showed respect to the site that it deserves. Well done Chigg.

[@downtonviewer]

Chigg. I looked it up and the info I'm getting is that there were Yavapai, not Apache, in the cave. Apache scouts did participate in the attack, though. The holes in the Saguaro are made by Gila woodpecker looking for larvae. That said, I respect you and love your videos. This was an especially nice series and I look forward to MOAR!!!

[@lindalee7322]

Thank you for sharing this information with us. Kudos!

[@demarrsurfboards3656]

Still some of the holes could be bullet holes. Wonder why Yavapai would be that far south?

[@terryjohnson8317]

The holes in the cactus are by the Cactus Wren which is Arizona's state bird. It nests in the holes

[@HiTechOilCo]

The Yavapai were a part of the Apache nation.

[@n0thinbutn8uretv19]

@@HiTechOilCo all the tribes in this territory are kin, they split after very gruesome wars against each other. If you learn what those tribe actual Called themselves and the origin of their Athabaskan language. I can see the whole thing happening when he's explaining the story.

[@hp3kguy]

I was there in 1969. Sad to see all the digging thats been happening since I was there. There use to be a glass jar with slips of paper that had a name and the the date the person was there. The group of scouts I was in found it by accident. Canyon lake had its water level lowered for dam repairs, we were camped at the base of Mormon Flat dam, Apache Lake, and hiked west to the cliff. I was told the troops took all the wounded back to their base, then attempted to return to the cave, without finding it. Thanks for the memory.

[@badarock177]

I love in Brazil and indian people are being murdered right now here. It's horribly sad and nobody does anything about it. This is so sad.

[@Pack_the_Ripper]

as a native north American I appreciate the respect you have for such places. thanks beau

[@ThatOldBiddy]

I gave thumbs up BEFORE viewing because I KNEW it would be good! Thanks for sharing!

[@luisjimenez8648]

Me too!

[@johntuck5174]

me too

[@leedickens4047]

ThatOldBiddy me too

[@davefox1857]

ThatOldBiddy I also gave it a thumbs-up before viewing it. I always do it for the aquachigger, because it's always good, and never disappoints.

[@charliejoy27]

so unreal chigg. I've lived in az my entire life and never even knew there was anything like that at canyon lake. thank you for taking the time to show us an important part of history that is almost forgotten.

[@charlespierard9115]

Brilliant, Chiggs. you're giving us all vicarious experiences most of us would never be able to undertake. Thank you so much for doing all the hard work. Love your videos, compelling viewing. Keep them coming.

[@purplebonnie3620]

You are a lot like my dad! There was a riverbed under a dam that we called The Gully. He would say he was Gully-ing when he went out and looked for stuff. The desert, the mountains, just about anywhere! He loved and created brass things. Found an old street lamp made of brass in the middle of the desert. He dug it up, restored it and put it on a wall that's in his living room.. He even made little brass key chains with a magnet, and gave them to all his friends so they could check to see if it's made of brass. Good memories. Thanks for the trip!!!💜💜💜

[@alphaone101]

Both parts of this video were incredible......possibly your best ever, I really enjoyed them and the educational aspect of them as well. Thanks!

[@beckycashdollar8406]

Chigg, I have really sat here glued to the video. Your obvious compassion for what took place and for the remains of the Apaches shows. You have been respectful, honest, and thorough in your narration. I appreciate that you did not try to sugar coat, or negate, the history that took place. You presented the things that both sides did, good and bad. Well done!!

[@TheTiaKeas]

Thank you for another informational video! I love your videos because you tell and show me things and places that I can never get to...

[@EricRagle]

I have watched most, if not all, of Chigg's videos over the years, but this is my favorite.

[@frankforrest1597]

Absolutely stunning! You seem to capture the thrill of the adventure and pass it on to the viewer. Great history that too few people know of. Thank you

[@slopoke1012000]

great video. I have been to that cave in the early 70's. Im glad to see that the isolation has still preserved this area

[@MsJet1]

Such a sad story. Thank you for going there for us.

[@jeanetteswalberg6166]

Thank you for sharing this experience. I can see that it affected you deeply. One of the most powerful images for me was the bullet holes in the cacti. It's like the spirits of the Apaches rose up through them as a witness of what transpired.

[@brucef9333]

Thanks Chigg, I love this type of history and very much appreciate you putting in the effort to bring this to us. You are one tough Hombre to endure the heat and altitude (and risk the rattlesnakes and black death) to get this video published. Three thumbs up!

[@digging6068]

Astounding work Mr. Aqauchigger. Great series and thanks for showing us places, that many people will never have the opportunity to see for themselves. It's amazing to think of the bio-diversity of our great nation and even more astounding the diversity of all the people here. That's why this historical journey you shared with us is so important to us, as people of America. We destroyed the Native Americans way of life with our European, ethnocentric views towards them. We can never fully right the atrocities that were committed,but we can learn a lesson and remember what was lost in hopes that we never make such wrongs again.

[@macgregorwiggins1285]

Digging 606, well said!

[@stevew.3249]

Beau, Thank you for bringing us along on your adventure. Listening to the story you read from the book makes for a sad story. Life was very, vary, different in those times. Thanks again. Steve,

[@dpaul4066]

the compassion you show to nature always inspires me that you care so much,,,,people these days just do not have the respect ( nuts on the floor of a burial ground) so sad...thank you for bringing me with you to these great adventures ...keep posting love what you do,,,,,be safe see you soon for another amazing trip.......peace..........

[@huntingtonbeachsasquatch]

Hay Chigg, Thanks for all the hard work you put into the videos. We do appreciate it.

[@BindarRouge]

WOW what an amazing story and sad history! Thanks for taking us on this adventure! Thank for being you and respectful of those long lost souls!

[@doubledaysrock]

This is one of the best videos you've ever done man. Thank you so much! Really makes everyday simple problems seem really really small. Let's us all realize the mistakes we have made, and how it's important to look back at them so that we don't repeat these mistakes..

[@markieproductions22]

Yes, it’s a grave site. I love the respect you have for the site and all the areas you visit. Great stuff!

[@TNgrandee3]

Aquachigger, these series of your trip to Arizona in my opinion are as good as some of the documentaries we see on PBS. If you ever put them on a DVD I would be willing to purchase one. Like some have pointed out here this was not taught in school. If you don't mind what was the title of the book you read from? Keep up the good work and always stay safe. Delores

[@DeathValleyDebbie]

Delores Radford just FYI he pinned a comment now on top with a link to the book. I agree his video is great, I think he should do a show or documentary.

[@TNgrandee3]

Thank You , KnowledgeNerd. Yes, documentary done by Aquachigger would be well worth watching.

[@charleshallier7853]

I absolutely agree with you. It would awesome to have these videos on DVD. This just makes sense in this way we know there are hard copies, if you will or putting on a stick not that we can’t but to keep things honest.

[@TheShop.]

Been in AZ for 45 years and have never heard of that location. Good detailed video of it's history. Good job.

[@suveran11]

Brilliant,as man who's great grandad was a native this gives me the courage to do a bit of reserch.Thanks.

[@bfgardin]

Over the past couple of months, I have grown obsessively addicted to your channel. I feel like I know you better than any of my closest friends. This adventure into Skeleton Cave and the history lesson you gave is not what I would call a gift to humanity but more of a treasure. Beautifully done, Beau. This is among the best documentaries about anything by anyone I have ever seen. Thank you so much for sharing this. And, I'm glad you made it off the mountain. I was holding my breath a few times lol.

[@mohicanson673]

It is spiritual..and emotional..thanks for a heartfelt explanation on your part.respect is seldom seen today..sad too..I always enjoy..coming along for the hike!..thanks!..

[@glenpierce777]

He did a great job telling us the story of what happened. Even though I'm from the UK, I love the whole Native American/First Nations history.

[@carolv8450]

They were amazing people. I just learned that when they dance, they say that is when their feet touch the earth they are kissing Mother Earth/ nature . Thought that was very moving.

[@historyhunter5215]

Glen Pierce Well Good Day to you Mate from this sites neighboring state of Texas!

[@glenpierce777]

Good evening my dear Chap.

[@historyhunter5215]

Glen Pierce You are correct I was wrong there lol,it is evening...

[@tristanbegg2834]

Thank you, Beau, for this video. It is one of the best experiences I've had watching KZbin, ever. You are a phenomenally fortunate and remarkable person, and I am happy just knowing you have the opportunity to visit places like this (and happier still you share them with us). I feel inspired, when I have a few grey hairs myself, as well as the time and the means to travel, to go on similar adventures. Your channel remains one of the most interesting channels I'm subscribed to and I always feel that I can depend upon it for positive, uplifting and truly thought-provoking content.

[@Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm]

Darn Beau, that was good. History and incredible views and amazing ambient quiet. Thanks!

[@etc22]

Easily one of the coolest youtube videos I've watched - sitting in the cave and reading the passage from the book about the battle(?) is both fascinating and chilling. Much respect.

[@macgregorwiggins1285]

A small excerpt from the web page of the book that Chigg was reading from tells about an 8 year old Yavapai boy, captured and forced to lead soldiers to the cave, where he had to watch the battle as his family was killed and afterward he was shown the body of his grandfather: "Hoo-Moo-Thy-Ah [...], was born into Yavapai family in Arizona, just before the establishment of Ft. McDowell, built by the U.S. Government to subjugate Native American peoples. His birthplace, around 1864, was near the Four Peaks Mountains, near Tonto Basin. In his autobiography he remembered the time as of "great beauty and happiness." However, when he was about 5 years old, his life was altered forever. His mother was killed by soldiers out on a patrol. She apparently ran for her life and crawled in a rock hole. She was pulled out and shot several times. After her murder, his father became a bitter enemy of the "Hayko" (enemy) and would often go with friends to the Salt River Valley just to kill any "Hayko" they could. The young boy was left responsible for the care of his younger brother and sister. Then, when Hoo-Moo-Thy-Ah was about eight years old, he was sent by his father to accompany his uncle to Wipuk (in the Sedona country) to bring back a horse. They were surprised by a patrol and the uncle deserted him. The terrified boy hid himself in a hole in a rock while the soldiers camped nearby. It became night and he almost froze to death, in a snowstorm, wearing only a G-string. They had been camped near Four Peaks, about 7,645 elevation in the Mazatzals. When he emerged the next morning, he was captured by the soldiers, whom he considered true demons. The captors remembered his valiant but vain struggle and after he lost, he was dragged over the rocks "like a log." The capture was in the winter of 1872 and General Crook was beginning his Tonto campaign. The terrified child was taken to Captain James Burns, Six days later he was forced to lead the soldiers and Maricopa and Pima scouts to Skeleton Cave and witnessed the massacre of over 60 of his people, including his father and siblings, grandfather, uncle and aunt. He was shown the body of his grandfather, who had part of his head in a little rock hole."

[@georik627]

Wow thank you

[@SRLowther]

Here is a link to his autobiography: uapress.arizona.edu/book/the-only-one-living-to-tell

[@desertfoxx1823]

I am very impressed how you respected that area. As you said, it was very spiritual and it showed in your manor and facial expression. Well done Chigg!

[@spottyskunk1898]

Amazingly well told and respectful visit to a little known historic site - well done, Chig! Also, I'm putting Water Flea forward as the name of the Chig Boat. :D

[@davidcunico1673]

I want to thank him for showing us this place and showing reverence for those that died there

[@thebatzinator]

How sad...I probably would've been bawling my eyes out the whole time. Thank you for taking us along and giving us some history lessons along the way.

[@desertrose2059]

Beau, I really appreciate being to able to explore these sites where I live, through your exceptional documentaries. Being disabled, I can never see these first hand, although I live here. Thank you Sir, for letting me explore them with you.

[@carpii]

This was fascinating, I could watch this sort of stuff all day long. Beautiful landscape there too

[@orringarn3779]

Your documentary on the hike and the cave with its history was so well done, I can now scratch it off my bucket list after 40 years! Thanks for being so respectful and for packing that big book up the mountain...incredible. Can't wait for the next Salt River tubing season. I'm holding my breath!

[@glenpierce777]

Such a sad, sad event. Well done Beau, you always bring history to life. It's sad that some people do not think when visiting places that they should leave nothing but their footprints. Skeleton Cave should be viewed as a very sacred place, somewhere that must be cherished to the memory of those Apache that were killed there. Btw, What is the name of the book you were reading from?

[@terryrgee]

@Ken Elliott What would you do if someone raided America and raped and murdered your friends and family? Your response is ignorant and disgraceful.

[@shaneshannon1096]

Thank you for bringing us along on this expedition. Myself and many others thank you for the respect that you paid them.

[@onwardsandupwardsrockhounding]

Well sir, you show great compassion and respect.......excellent job and I respect your willingness to share your adventure. It was enlightening to say the least. Thank you!!

[@doverdiane]

You have a great way of bring history to life. Thanks for taking us along and sharing this historical event with us.

[@mikemccutchen1714]

Thanks for the history lesson.Glad you do the research to give us the background on all your trips.

[@stephenobrien5646]

I think you missed you're calling. I would sit in every history class you tutored. Thank you for letting their ghosts know not all of us agreed. I come from Glasgow in Scotland and you have not only opened the world and history to me but also the heart. Those who respect history are in your debt.

[@ohioturkeyhunter]

I love the history of this video. I also respect the emotion of this video. I think it would be interesting to get a metal detector up there to just locate the shell casings, nothing more, just to locate them to see where the soldiers were firing from.

[@shucksful]

You remind me so much of my good friend Edward, who sadly passed this week. You really have that great spirit that reminds me of him…Take care, and Ty.

[@DVProductions]

YES, I agree with you 100% people should respect the land and people who lost their lives. Thank you for all that respect the lands and history we have.

[@elizabethchastain2582]

My first visit to your channel, and I really enjoyed the videos. It means alot to me that you are one of the decent few considerate enough to be aware of the litter others so ignorantly leave and going the extra mile to remove it. You respect the history of the site and can relate to the trauma experienced by the people that died there. I think that we are all connected, past, present and future. It is important to take stock and own up to past transgressions so we can accurately see who we are and what we came from.Maybe the past can help us make adjustments and decide who we want to be in this lifetime. In short, I appreciate your respect.

[@VeXis101]

Love these videos!! You go above and beyond for us to watch and love them all! Thank you

[@kerrymidkiff2072]

Hi aquachigger. Skull cave videos are some of your best yet. Thanks for taking the time to show us some very important history. People feel American Indians were all bad. They were here first and they lost a great deal not just their lives. Thanks Again.

[@richkrauss6405]

This is the most FANTASTIC video you have ever posted. Most informative and so sad.

[@Janettemay64]

The thank you for hanging out, the pleasure has been all mine, as always, love your stories and a bit more American history learned, great video.

[@tomheli]

i just loved this video thank you so mutch Beau. The helicopter that you saw yesterday was a Bell 212 and that big helicopter that you saw on this video is the Erickson S-64 Air-Crane (I just like helicopters would love to see an Apache flying overthere)

[@BJDickerson]

I worked at Erickson. I still love aircraft after being an aircraft mechanic in the Navy also.

[@matthewfocke5360]

Sir, the best personal historical presentation-On sight! Thanks so much.

[@HkSniper]

A great 2 part series on some very interesting history. Thanks for the insight and everything with this as well as the lesson. I never knew of this location or it's story until you discussed it. Also, I have to give you props for the large amount of respect you are showing this site and the remains found on site. It's a shame others do not have this mindset. Great video. Be safe out there!

[@moondropkiss]

I Just found your videos today and have watched several of them. I appreciate how you narrate and you can be funny at times as well as respectful. Thank you for sharing your journeys with us.

[@aquachigger]

Thanks. I appreciate that.

[@doodlebug7349]

This was very informative, interesting and extremely sad! I really HATE how the native American people were treated it breaks my heart! Thank you for sharing with us!

[@TheAdadadada]

This was one of the best! Thanks Beau! Very well done!

[@charleswillsonpeale5739]

I think Chigg finally found human bones. It must be Chief Yellow Ricky ! Beau, I guess you're outta' town and won't see this but, this was one of your best series.

[@mallgirl7436]

I found your video of Skeleton Cave to be very interesting. I have the same hobby of exploration, especially in regards to native American history. After looking at the historic photos of the bones displayed and the cave floor structure at that time, it appears as though the back of the cave has been subsequently dug. The spot from where you read looks to have been dug. If this is true then the bones you were showing us were probably animal. I was alerted to this possibility because all the bones you showed were broken. This is typical from efforts by the Indians to remove the marrow. Broken animal bones are common mixed into the midden of archeological sites. If the cave had been excavated these bones would have been brought to the surface. Thank you for sharing your adventure and the troubling history lesson.

[@charleshallier7853]

Thank you for doing this vid. It is so important that these events get remembered. I live in southern Az so I do understand the significance of what you’re doing. I honestly hate that this is not known by probably 99% of the pop of the USA 🇺🇸. I have hiked all over this area many many times. I’m glad in this vid and others that you point out all of the little Easter eggs that are found everywhere. When I watched this vid , I could not get BLM off of my mind. If anyone had a platform to complain, it would be Native Americans. I know their compensation but $ does not change what happened to them and their Tribes. All lives matter but this is a negative comparison to BLM. It isn’t just skeleton canyon but all of the capturing and transporting these Native Tribes. Most are documented but how many people know what happened to all the Tribes. I would guess somewhere around 0.000%. “Lest they forget.” I just get so pissed off with BLM and their attitude towards any other minority. Even with their Native American compensation, They at least, I think, are getting the last laugh with their legally owned casinos. But the horror stories, are real and illustrate the inhuman treatment of Native Americans by the powers to be, it is truly sickening. It’s almost like what Saddam did to the Kurds in northern Iraq. Sorry for rambling but I felt a need to unload on the subject of what are fore fathers did to Native Tribes. ♥️✌️🇺🇸 Best wishes to you, family and channel on KZbin.

[@shadythereok]

Did the Kurds go on raiding parties?

[@charleshallier7853]

@@shadythereok hello Aldo, the Kurd comment was drawing a modern comparison of a government’s slaughter of it’s own people or people that live on that governments land. The Native American Tribes were treated like parasites. Tens of thousands Native Americans lost their lives to the Union soldiers. Take into account the Spaniards were killing In equal numbers if not worse. Most Native American Tribes in AZ went on raids typically to steal cattle or harvest fruit of indigenous cactus. The Yavapi attempted a “no contact” with whites. Yavapi were also mistaken for Apaches. The Yavapi were mostly in NE and NW AZ. So mistakenly, the US walked 180 Yavapi to Apache San Carlos Reservation. Only 80 made it there alive. Much like the Navajo Long Walk. I could go on and on with the injustices forced on AZ Native Tribes. As for this video, it doesn’t make sense that the Native American Yavapi were this far south, probably 200 miles from their home. There four Yavapi Tribes but they were in AZ’s west and north west. This massacre was right in the middle of Apache strongholds.

[@shadythereok]

@@charleshallier7853 Yeah, it's sad what happened to these natives of this land, but it seems that every civilization from the beginning has blood on their hands for the massacre of millions Like Islam is responsible for over 250 million massacred in the last 1,400 years, then there's China, Japan, the Spanish in South America and the Philippines, Russia in the Gulags, the mongols it goes on and on, sooo... who do we feel sorry for the most? I feel the largest massacre is not far off, ya feel me?

[@charleshallier7853]

@@shadythereok totally feel you, totally feel you and I believe your correct about the final cleansing. I saw an interview with Stephen Hawking (I have to paraphrase) speaking to why we have not had any contact from extra terrestrials. His answer is way more relevant now than when he answered, probably 6 years ago. He said “we may not have had contact because of the level of technology they would have to have may have been the technology that ended their civilization. With the advent of our own technology, we could end life on our planet in the same way.” I’m paraphrasing but it really scared the crap out of me. The good we (all nations) could do with this technology rather seeking a way to kill each other. On the massacre, you correct again. You kinda have to agree there have massacres since day one as I’m also convinced that every peoples, somewhere in time, we have been slaves to someone before they became slaves to someone else.

[@guyfrom8659]

First person I've ran across with the same thoughts . I'm disabled and live in a school bus full-time . I traveled thru the desert south west in early 2021 and the first thing that came to my mind was how far away indians nowadays have to travel for a job . I seen people that were 80+ miles from any type of job . African Americans should stop bitching completely . They have so many more opportunities nowadays than the tribal people do of the desert southwest .

[@deborahjaniak7531]

Chigg thank you so much! This was very poignant, and extremely captivating. I love history and you brought this to life. Truly my favorite series....please do Moar!

[@LavishHim]

Wow! Thanks so much for doing that for us. Something about history rocks my soul. Makes me want to have witnessed it myself… But of course then I probably be dead. When I was in high school I flunked history. Hated it because all they had us do was memorize dates. One day, in my early 20s, I went to Morristown museum (nj) all by myself, and got hit with what our ancestors went through so that we could be free. Suddenly history came alive for me and has been ever since. If only the teachers knew that memorizing dates was so incredibly boring and that the stories are so incredibly intriguing. They'd have had a lot more passing students! Again, this was awesome! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@ronvanpelt8196]

very well put Danielle l totally agree that all the emphasis on dates and the like is trivial when there are amazing stories to be told the dates matter only as a time context. l love history of all sorts Chig does us all a great service with is vlogs finding relics and visiting the sites he does.

[@tacolover274]

awesome desert landscape thanks for sharing thank you for showing respect god bless love your channel

[@marypass684]

What an awesome 'trip'. And I appreciate all your videos so much. Very sad to hear the narrative of the massacre. Wow, we treated the American Indian with such cruelty. My daughter is an American Indian (adopted), Chippawah(sp). . .. again, thanks for taking us along. Am going to see if I can find the book.

[@IndianaStoned]

Did you find it at all? Been lookin for the title of it.

[@michaelsonleitner5724]

Thanks Beau for the adventure! Really appreciate your respect for the departed. Sad that happened in our history. Got to learn from it and not repeat. Thanks for the lesson!

[@mikebaize6971]

great video sir that was one of my favorite and saddest all in one just thinking of those Indians just getting slaughtered just breaks my heart but thanks for the great video again

[@ms-fj8di]

In my opinion, two of your best videos to date. (Part 1, Part 2)

[@tangie777uk]

Beautiful place but what a sad history....Thank you for your very interesting videos

[@richwhite4331]

THANKS !! Your videos are so well done and your kindness and respect are a Refreshing change of pace!!!

[@dougalexander7204]

Much respect for Aquachigger. Thank you for sharing this spiritual journey.

[@bills6093]

Great video Beau. Good job of telling the story your way and reminding us to read about it ourselves, too. I like the fact that you remind us that you may not be 100% right in telling the story on the fly, but the place and the events are important to know. Your visual lessons about showing respect are always nice to see. Can't wait for more east coast river adventures.

[@HarvestTexas]

The Native American spirits must still be there in the cave. Awesome video, thank you.