For anyone wondering about great Thief, Its a PvP maestro. Massive thank you again to Nandor, please do check out Nandor's Channel (Nandixer) and website down below :D Channel: www.youtube.com/@Nandixer Website: nandixer.github.io/index.html
@hidesidehs5271 Жыл бұрын
In short. TCM ( and TK ) is for Soloing. NCM for farming. SSOT something inbetween, QCM is dmg supp ( basically calendar SC ), PCM healer/tank ( basically calendar AP ), and CDK is party dmg dealer. And the difference beteen TCM and TK is that TK is much more user friendly on the expense of potential. EDIT: Wording
@takiburistabol191 Жыл бұрын
Timekeeper users where you at 🎉
@Fluskar Жыл бұрын
eyy
@MastaNas9 Жыл бұрын
I have 3 including that would that count
@ThomasBD Жыл бұрын
OG Timekiller here, dodging all haters and nuking them out of the timeline
@fauzumn102911 ай бұрын
tk barely crits nowadays
@takiburistabol19111 ай бұрын
sad to hear, ive been gone for 3 months already after farming for all nsod variants. hope it keeps up@@fauzumn1029
@zcrist22z Жыл бұрын
Mad props to the amount of work that went into this resourceful video. This was much for insightful compared to a class tier list, much appreciated and much love for all ur content.
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
Thank you mate I really appreciate it! Credit also needs to be given to Nandor for creating the diagrams and providing plenty of info! 😃
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
This is one of those topics I've strategically avoided as it often comes down to opinion - However if your stuck hopefully it can point you in the right direction
@desveeta6699 Жыл бұрын
I need help I have a solo class but I want to buy a class to kill ultras(like darkcarnax utra dage ultra drakath) what should I buy?
@dj0505 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Thanks for bringing it up. I actually saw the chart somewhere in reddit a few weeks ago, but couldn't find it when i was searching it recently to buy more calendar classes. I bought 4 classes. SSoT, PCM, NCM, TK. Here are my thoughts on those classes (as a endgame beginner to forge and ultras) 1. SSoT Mana Vamp makes SSoT easier to use, forge enh making it even easier to use. Using it as a high Hp, low Dmg boss solo, its very good. Only needs to focus on mana and combo, which is fairly easy. But it you use it as a dodge solo for high Dmg boss, it gets really complicated. So i recommend TK if you have forge enh, and Yami if you dont have forge enh. If you get very good at using SSoT, then i dare say that SSoT is one of the best chronos. 2. PCM PCM is actually very nice and used a lot. Good for soloing high hitting monsters, but you need to be careful not to get one shotted at the beginning of the battle. You need skill 2 stacks to reduce the enemy dmg, but some bosses crits you over 20k, which would instantly kill you even with the skill 4 HP buff. Other than that, a better P2W option of AP if you have forge enh, if you don't have forge enh AP is slightly better overall in terms of diversity and sustain. 3. NCM I don't have AM so i cant really compare it with the no.1 farming class of this game, but i do have LR. Comparing it with LR, NCM is faster at farming in all HP farming. NCM has low cooldowns and 100% crit chance making it one shot low HP farming. Because of stacks, NCM is better at high HP farming (20k+ HP) too. The only issue with this class is that you can spam, but spamming makes NCM lose it's ground as a faster farmer than LR Use skill 3 often to maintain your crit 100% buff, spam 2 and 4. Only use skill 5 (your heal) when you are under 40% HP. This is because you lose all your skill 2 stacks when you use skill 5. (Skill 4 the nuke also loses your stacks but chrono nukes are that way :) ) (p.s there are some sustain issues so i recommend LR or AM on hard hitting farms like hydra challenge) 4. TK DO NOT GET TK IF YOU ARE NOT AN ENDGAME PLAYER. I actually do not think TK should be the first chrono to buy. (Unless you're a endgame player) YES it is a brain-dead chrono, Yes it is a 100% dodge class IF you have forge enh. Which means, you do not have 100% dodge when you go full thief + the dmg is weak when you go full thief. And of course you have low dodge when you go full luck. The only place you would use this class (without forge enh) is when you go to a 6 party non-ultra boss fight to have others to tank & buff for you. You also need high weapon boost & tag boost to reach the 200k+ crit nukes you see on youtube. The 200k+ nukes is actually a very important part of TK, because if you do not crit over 200k then VHL or CAv has higher dps) + pots to reach the 1m+ crit nukes you see on youtube. (all based on solo play, in party play it's easier with better results)
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts mate! Hopefully some fellow players can find that useful! 😀
@hidesidehs5271 Жыл бұрын
Dude I cant comment about other classes but about TK, you will do just fine with just AWE Spiral Carve and Lacerate forge enh with Vim helm are almost just as easy to get. Lacerate prolly even easier than AWE enhacements. And between farming Yami and forge enh... I'd much rather choose the latter.
@dj0505 Жыл бұрын
@hidesidehs5271 yeah I know where you are headed bro, but still there are BETTER options. I got 3 more chronos, QCM, Chrono Commandant, Chronomacer Prime AND I STILL think TK shouldn't be someone's first chrono. Yeah TK performs well even without forge, but too inconsistent One thing I was decently suprised was that chronomancer prime was actually a really good class. Everybody said it sucks, but it's very consistent due to guaranteed crit on nuke & has fast nuke. I stopped using VHL for medium HP bosses (300k - 600k) because it only takes 5 - 10 seconds for chrono prime to kill it. With the same non forge enh, tk can solo crit up to 700k and DOWN TO 40K. There is no need for beginners to use TK AT ALL. The highest nuke I've done with my TK is 5M, while chrono prime did 1M. Yes I KNOW TK is the highest scaling brain-dead chrono with high dodge. BUT DO YOU NEED IT AS YOUR FIRST CHRONO? APPARENTLY NOT AT ALL Why should anyone buy TK as their first chrono? They would only be replacing ROUGE class with TK. You can REPLACE AP with PCM. You can REPLACE CAv with Chrono Commandant. You can OUT PERFORM LoO with QCM. You can OUT PERFORM VHL with Chrono Prime. Why should anyone without forge get TK just to replace rouge, blademaster, horc evader, yami no ronin etc
@dj0505 Жыл бұрын
@@hidesidehs5271 No doubts in TK as a very good class But if you have several chronos and know how to use them all TK becomes a dodge class nothing more special SPECIAL chronos are different, that why despite CMP is the WEAKEST Chrono of all, it's still in " do you want a useful class " TK is loved in several reasons, but that does not mean TK is easy to see the high ground. Nor is it the best in terms of dps or dodge (ssot is better in BOTH) This got very long, to sum up I go back to my original statement TK is not recommended as first chrono, if you are NOT an ENDGAME player
@hidesidehs5271 Жыл бұрын
@@dj0505 Never seen SSOT perform better than TK in term of damage. Im not sure, but even if you are able to stack the dot infinitely 1) It takes time before it gets meaningfully high 2) Its not practical, when you want to kill one boss just couple of times and then move on onto another boss. And in term of dodge, you just need lacerate which is prolly even easier to get than awe enhacements and you dodge 100% of the stuff and req. lvl is just 40. Now the main thing. What makes class good isnt just that one thing its best at but its whole strength overall. Im sure you know that soloing boss isnt just about hitting hard, but also being able to take the hit yourself. So, even if its not the best DPS class, neither the beefiest, the fact that he can dish out damage while dodging stuff actually makes it one of hardest to kill among dmg dealers and one of the best dmg dealers among those that can survive. Thats what the class is about. What you said holds true when it comes to party where someone covers for your weaknesses, thats not the case at soloing. Thats why its called SOLOing. And lastly, nothing you said is actual reason why ppl should use it only as endgame class. Actually quite the oppossite, its when you are in endgame you can have load of classes available. Might as well add that, thats the beauty of TK, you need no next chrono. It soloes fast, it soloes hard hitting bosses fast, it does "the funny". And lets be honest, in any other case than solo, you dont really need as strong class as possible.
@Fluskar Жыл бұрын
ayy same, timekeeper is my fav too. literally the turn off your brain chrono that still pumps out good numbers
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
It was a big relief when it got the major buff haha
@L10N. Жыл бұрын
Since interstellas knight has been buffed i think its up there with the best chronos. Buffed on september and empyrean also got a buff
@Iggarashi Жыл бұрын
Timekeeper, quantum chronomancer and obsidian paladin chronomancer are the only good calendar class and ultraboss is the current meta so i highly recommend OPCM and QCM. Note: Timekeeper with valiance, vim and lament can turn void high lord into bank high lord
@hidesidehs5271 Жыл бұрын
Is valiance better than lacerate on weapon?
@Iggarashi Жыл бұрын
@@hidesidehs5271 yup
@hidesidehs5271 Жыл бұрын
@@Iggarashi Really? Lacerate helps build dmg really well and makes you unhittable. I can keep killing bosses for hours ( since I did ) and all it takes is to not use lacerate and I get killed instantly.
@Iggarashi Жыл бұрын
@@hidesidehs5271 Well it depends on the class your using because classes like VHL and CAV can take damage while YNR and TK can easily dodge anything which makes the lacerate's effect kinda pointless while Valiance Boost the stats by 30% (I think) but there are cases where you can use Lacerate like for example CAV +Lacerate+Vim+ Penitence Can practically almost solo all the hard hitting bosses like icewing but it's not a 100% that you will not die on the first try.
@Iggarashi Жыл бұрын
@@hidesidehs5271 And when it comes to soloing hard hitting bosses TK and YNR are the goat
@sethalexis5827 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always! Wish i had watched this before buying Timeless Chrono
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
Was it the shock of how overly complex it was :p
@clark5463 Жыл бұрын
i really messed up buying UCM/OCM thinking it was basically the same as CCM/TCM
@UnchainedEruption10 ай бұрын
I remember Chronocorruptor being the best back in the day...where the chrono class became infamous for its nuke. Obviously like all older classes, they're usually pretty bad compared to more modern stuff. The newest stuff is always the best one yet! (TM) to give people incentive to get it.
@zonehesh6584 Жыл бұрын
I picked TCM and all i did was follow the combo given without timing stuff tbh, and after i got dauntless things got real simple like i only use an hourglass now and ditch the corruptions while dealing nukes
@daneli4414 Жыл бұрын
transience?
@zonehesh6584 Жыл бұрын
@@daneli4414 yea just transcience and dauntless and im good to go
@daneli4414 Жыл бұрын
@@zonehesh6584 zamn that's cool
@chuushuumaru Жыл бұрын
PaladinCM is my top 1 chrono class atm cause it can solo carnax.
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
I do enjoy pally , very nice class
@marlocamiso1814 Жыл бұрын
Thank you mr goon.. im planning to get the timekeeper 🔥
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
It’s a good choice mate if you need a solo class! If you have VHL already though , you won’t need it
@hidesidehs5271 Жыл бұрын
@UncleHerbert Whenever I see someone do chrono vid, they all say that SSOT is their solo class, but it never performed well. Always CDK in 14 sec overkilling boss, TK finishing in like twenty and SSOT in over minute.
@judechristopher21622 ай бұрын
@@MrGoonVidsSup Mr.goon. Do you think VHL is better than TCM? overall aspect
@MrGoonVids2 ай бұрын
@ tricky to compare them mate , on one hand tcm is the strongest chrono but very complicated , whereas VHL is a perfectly easy to use high dps soloer
@judechristopher21622 ай бұрын
@@MrGoonVids I already got TCM would you recommend me to get VHL? or nah?
@Donutbroski Жыл бұрын
I have 4 chrono classes (timekeeper, infinity knight, immortal chrono and ssot) im deciding whether to buy more. But if i would i'd probably get something like corrupted chrono or paladin chrono. Kinda undecided on ccm since i already have vhl and cav so if i have to choose right here right now i'd prolly take the paladin chrono
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
I do enjoy pally , you get so much health off the endurance you are literally invincible 😂 not massive dps though is the drawback
@adityaardhana19837 күн бұрын
which one should i pick if i'm a solo bosses, have nuke, easy to use, and good for ultras?
@DoublemanFM Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Any plans to release a vid on choosing enh for chrono classes/meta classes?
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
Potentially mate! It’s a bit tricky as I don’t currently own all the forge , so I’d need to colab it up with Nandor again😀
@kaijerome681711 ай бұрын
I'm having a hard time choosing which is the best chrono is it qcm or paladin
@jesusthetaxfraudprodigy275024 күн бұрын
VHL,LR,Nechronomancer,Archpaladin owner here(only have smite and lacerate as forge) which one should I get SWoT,QCM or PCM.Should I wait for the 2025 chronoclass ?
@duskbringer45838 ай бұрын
I am trying to figure my class still for bosses that are often solo bossing as areas I go to are empty... I run Immortal atm but flow of my damage numbers tends to go from 20-100k, but I am unable to keep that number constantly. ...Timekeeper is doing even less. Should mention I also got a bit of a... "Challenge", trying to keep aesthetic of the "Alignment" (In this case, Good. if it was Evil, I would had gotten NCM.) Good Allignment really is lacking an End Boss class, huh. Chaos got Avenger, Evil got Revenant Verus and VHL.
@someoneofsomethingАй бұрын
CCM/TCM and UCM/OCM have the same skills don't they? i'm confused because the wiki says all *FOUR* of them have the same skills, but why are those two pairs seperated like that? (other than cosmetic mirror-wise)
@MrGoonVidsАй бұрын
@@someoneofsomething hello mate , yes the skills are the same. The difference is the consumables they use which change the play style of each class (both come with their own consumable shop / timepieces etc) If I was you have a read through what mole wrote here some time ago should help you out with understanding them a bit more www.reddit.com/r/AQW/comments/ehlx5w/underworld_chronomancer_is_perfectly_balanced_and/fcodnct/?context=3
@franciscoirungarayferrero7413 Жыл бұрын
I've bought Empyrean Chrono with HeroPoints, but now I'm saving ACs to buy another Chrono class. I have LR, VHL and CAV, but I wanted a class that I could use against hard bosses (Not ultras) with relative facility. Which one do you recommend me?
@elmerandrewcrowley2822 Жыл бұрын
I don't have TK but I hear it's amazing. I do have SSOT though and I love it. There are very few bosses you can't use the normal rotation for and those ones you can use a dodge rotation for instead
@nashnash75019 ай бұрын
buy TK it's so easy to farm with hardhitting bosses, just build lacerate,luck,vim and lament. and then just put auto clicker set the the right amount of seconds then kill ANY hard hitting bosses(not includ ultraz). you sleep when you wake up you have max materials
@1124spawn Жыл бұрын
tempted to pick up a SWOT key or maybe a nice collection chest LOL
@reapar112 Жыл бұрын
i have timekeeper i recommend for every one fr if u ues the vim ether ench u will have 85% dodge chance litterly ynr but with insane damage.
@ayakakaichou70063 ай бұрын
Whats the best chrono for soloing very high hp bosses?
@residentsleeper119 ай бұрын
Weird how underworld the later releasing one is nerfed
@dimosthenis_ac Жыл бұрын
timeless isnt that complicated at all you only need to learn to playstyles aka to hourglasses 1 is the hourglass of power which you can only use when supported and it can help the party a lot if you use it solo tho you will die and the other is hourglass of transiece aka the dodge self dot hourglass which is really simple you just need to time 3 and 4 when the boss hits you so you dont die thats all the third hourglass and the eye consumable are uterly USELESS and are never used (they were the most complicated thing about the class)
@Murdoc-- Жыл бұрын
It's funny that you don't find TCM complicated and yet you're struggling with grasping the concept of writing coherently. Try some comas and full stops sometimes, it's not that complicated.
@dimosthenis_ac Жыл бұрын
commas and stuff sometimes are unessecary and sometimes i dont know where to place them and this is youtube my friend not some school project that you must use perfect grammar into so if you'd like to tell the whole youtube community to write as you then dont talka bout it and TCM got nothing to do with grammar @@Murdoc--
@kingkratos073611 ай бұрын
Which is better between paladin chrono and quantum?
@zyrilltagudar67666 ай бұрын
Do you like thinking? NO? LOL BEST WAY TO SUM IT ALL UP!
@MrGoonVids6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@jpbarredo7991 Жыл бұрын
in your opinion what is the best Chrono for solo/group ?
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
I’d pick Timekiller for a solo option , as it’s just easy and packs a punch. Group play I always run Paladin chrono
@mk_rexx11 ай бұрын
Poor IK. Now, it's in the "Do you do ultras?" tier.
@jessiegohetia9395 Жыл бұрын
I'm torn between TK and SSOT, I have QCM and UCM already. Pls help lol!
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
That’s a tricky one as both are great. It comes down to , would you rather have an easy to use solo class (TK) or would you like something to learn but be rewarded with dps (SSoT) and other uses
@dmkskillsz Жыл бұрын
Hey, which is the best class for farming Chaos Avenger and Archmage ?
@brixmacaranas261910 ай бұрын
Those two classes are far too different on the spectrum to be compared
@judechristopher216224 күн бұрын
if u have classes like blaze binder for farming it's not enough but you need at least a good class for ultras as requirement for CAV
@hidesidehs5271 Жыл бұрын
Nice diagram dude.
@mangojuice1282 Жыл бұрын
Timekeeper or CMP?
@AzazelAugustus Жыл бұрын
I wish I could play this game.
@blocksmith214 Жыл бұрын
you can on phone using puffin browser
@dechrysoph5298 Жыл бұрын
IS GREAT THEIF WORTH GETTING RN?
@themindgamer5084 Жыл бұрын
Nuke Chronos not recommended these days.. got SWOT NCM and Qcm for variety of contents Solos, Ultrabossing, Farming.
@ehmanbuangjug2039 Жыл бұрын
What is the felling to have Chrono?
@taogwapo2384 Жыл бұрын
Very op
@hemahsona26829 ай бұрын
I have Ssot which one now should get?
@MrGoonVids9 ай бұрын
Maybe quantum for a mega support that can also solo too
@hemahsona26829 ай бұрын
@@MrGoonVids i paly it alone so i dont hAVE SUPPORT , what about get chrono chaorrupter for easy combo?
@hemahsona26829 ай бұрын
@@MrGoonVids or tk?
@MrGoonVids9 ай бұрын
@@hemahsona2682 TK is a great class
@hemahsona26829 ай бұрын
@@MrGoonVids ty man i got it and it is realy creat class
@akmalulislam3818 Жыл бұрын
good video
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
Thank you mate
@utilizator1701 Жыл бұрын
Wait. Dragon of Time and Chrono Assasin are not chrono classes 🤯?
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
Only the calendar classes bud!
@SuperTEROR Жыл бұрын
i just buy paladin chrono last week
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
How are you finding it?
@bloopersmage372 Жыл бұрын
Even using only the hourglass of power timeless chrono still does 300k+. I don't get why people don't like it, must be skill issue.
@momararsal139110 ай бұрын
QCM is the best Chrono class >>>>>
@noxwulf Жыл бұрын
fuck i saw this right after i bought overworld chronomancer yall thing they would give me a refund so i can buy timekeeper
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
Maybe mate! Log a ticket and say got confused with the names and accidentally picked the wrong one !
@hentikirby7142 Жыл бұрын
I have 1 too many chrono
@nghiapolar254511 ай бұрын
if anyone wonder how many IC nuke with right team, it nuke 1m - 8m :))))
@maxinea.sakaki4151 Жыл бұрын
Why dont we have a pirate chrono class?
@christianjohncuestas1269 Жыл бұрын
Free? To get??
@MrGoonVids Жыл бұрын
They are all Paid for classes bud
@zxhj8738 Жыл бұрын
Buy all of them lol
@adityaardhana19837 күн бұрын
which one should i pick if i'm a solo bosses, have nuke, easy to use, and good for ultras?