Arcade1up Terminator 2 In Depth Review

[@walterharris3861]

Nicely done, as always. Been anxiously awaiting your thoughts. I’ll hold off until we see Christmas sales (out of room anyway) and bide time to see if they announce HOTD. Thanks for the insight.

[@scottgauley7722]

Thank you for this informative review! For $700 I would expect this cabinet to have more of the original arcade cabinet features. Mainly the monitor being built into the back of the cabinet with lights that flashed on the forward glass pane just in front of you whenever you took damage, creating a pseudo 3D experience. Back in 1991 when this was first released this was cutting edge technology in the arcades and really wowed people. Yes, I concur, I'd pay $500 for this, but not $700.

[@robkrasinski6217]

It's possible to unscrew the metal monitor from the frame and mount it on a back wood panel with strong two way tape for the arcade set back look.

[@goofyfoot390]

Yup 👍 this one is definitely a holdout for a discounted price. Also to see the long term durability of the guns.

[@bp1208]

Great review... thanks! Nix the background music... pretty distracting. I want to hear your thoughts not awkward music.

[@bighomie3500]

Hey bro I appreciate the way you detail your reviews and you come off genuine and that's always nice when looking for honest reviews I'm glad I subscribed. Thanks

[@gamebroker_8465]

Great Review! I appreciated the tear down on the guns. Really informative. It’s hard to justify paying 700 for one game. Even though I really want a shooter besides Buck Hunt. Will wait for this one to go on sale. It still looks awesome! So iconic!

[@MasterMayhem78]

Finally someone opens up one of the guns. Thanks for that 👍🏻

[@KongsRUs]

Wow!! Thanks for opening up the guns and taking one for the team to bust it open. I'd recommend a set of watch knives to pry off pieces like that, hope you were able to glue it back together ok. And wow, I'm really fascinated by the feedback mechanism. Not what I expected at all! But still sounds a bit like a toy uzi, 😄. Great review man, that's for showing us the guts!

[@19kfox]

Haha, thanks bro! Yeah sometimes brute force isn't always the right answer. The gun did go back together without an issue. I don't how getting a replace gun will work since they are specific to the cabinet and player location.

[@EchoBaseNetwork]

Thanks for the recommendation. I was looking forward to this one. Did you get the Tron one?

[@19kfox]

I didn't get the Tron cabinet. I not a big enough fan of the game to justify that purchase. There are also quality issues with the flight stick. In some cases it literally snaps off!

[@pbonbrisco]

It’s tough to say when or IF a price drop will come. This is marketed for arcade and movie fans that will accept one game just to have Arnie in their man cave. Look at Tron recent restock same $700 price months later unlike everything else around that time discounted

[@danidavis7912]

I just picked it up for $299. I would never have paid $700 for it. A1Up simply takes too many short cuts with all of their games to charge such a ridiculous price. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the 5 A1Ups I currently own, but I didn't pay full price for any of them.

[@WOLF-wu2rc]

Nice vid Fox and as far as the gun wires just put the bottom end into the riser. That's what i do with my big buck hunter.

[@brents5632]

Appreciate that you pulled apart the guns! I’ll have to look back at kongs but close video to see if these are the same camera and internal PCBs

[@MrGrenade22]

awsome review, thanks for all the information, keep up the good work on the reviews ,it help me on buying the arcade

[@jasonemmettmyers]

Excellent review; you were calm, precise, and easy to understand.

[@maxmt4325]

First mod I would do is make a bigger control panel, mount the guns on the panel with swivel wheel casters, mount the monitor all the way to the back of the cabinet. That's as close as you will get to the original T2 arcade. Or just find an original for a few hundred dollars more

[@Frank_D]

Thanks for the review! How's the plastic feel on those guns? Is it a good, strong plastic, or is it something that would splinter in my hands if I grip the handle a little too tight during an intense play session?

[@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark]

been waiting for this...🍿

[@matthewc5255]

Nice review. Like how you show the cabinet during the build process.

[@MoviesMarkLoves]

There aren't many YT ers I'd like to meet over a cold beer but you are certainly one of them.

[@olblueyes7670]

Nice breakdown. Thanks for the info, sir!

[@Madlou]

Most thorough review I've seen and I've seen them all up to now. I was really thinking about getting this cab but I hate the clickity click of the guns (it would drive me crazy after a while), the washed out marquee, the diminished sound, the long dangling wires and of course the ridiculous price for one game. So its a hard pass for me. Maybe one day someone can show how it can be modded to deal with these issues.

[@scottgauley7722]

I agree. Having the gun wires just dangling there when not in play just looks tacky. You'd figure for $700 they'd have wires that could retract back into the machine when not in use. Even with inflation, this machine is a cash grab.

[@joshuacgoodman5974]

Szabos arcade new marquee = $40. Standard pc speakers with subwoofer = $50. And it was on sale last week for $400…….

[@random_an0n]

@@scottgauley7722 to be fair that 700 is to cover the cost of licensing the terminator franchise and arnies likeness,and the sinden tech

[@dannyhayes6186]

It's on sale at the moment for 299

[@bozocalvinjr2134]

Your so right 19KFox wishing I could had waited myself but to late mines comes today yes the clicking sound gonna be an issue and your right most likely this price will go down from $700 maybe $ 100 bucks off never know but I always played this game back in the day love your content and reviews on this cab and on Ridge Racer you the man enjoyed this video

[@joshuacgoodman5974]

Got mine for $400 last week. Your dismantle of the guns = essential for my issues: Both guns had the weight for the rumble out of the holder. Additionally out of nowhere the blue gun stopped rattling. I want nuts for 12 hours till i rewatched your video and the mention of the “kill switch”. OMG. if not for your review I would have lost my mind. Nothing sucks harder than putting the cabinet together and then somethings broken.

[@stardust727fla.2]

I had a piece of something rattling in my blue gun opened it and noticed that the weight on the back of the stick that makes the clicking noise had fallen out there's no way to completely separate the blue gun with out breaking the orange ring so I just placed it back inside where it came from but I'm unable to turn the screw to keep it tight. Also during this procedure I noticed that my red gun has the plastic lens in the front of the camera .Great video 👍

[@janvisser6643]

Excellent review! I don't like the bezel around the screen, it looks unfinished. Like they forgot to paint it black. Also, why no scanlines?

[@RETROOBLIVION]

Thank you for taking the gun apart. Great review!

[@19kfox]

It had to be done. 🦊👊🏼

[@indangerdogg637]

Great Review Brotha..!!! Can't wait for this baby to go on sale..!!! 😎👌🧨🧨

[@Excaidus-Metal]

Great review Fox! I totally agree. it's a flop at $700, $500 would be more accurate. Put a 20" screen in there and a better marquee then maybe $700. Also, how long will those guns last? Will T2 be another Tron with breaking parts?

[@andrewmoore7927]

450

[@3rdFloorArcade]

Great review 19kfox! Really enjoyed this. The T2 cab looks awesome! I 👍👊

[@Brad-D]

Great review. Thanks for doing the teardown on the gun for us!

[@TwistedGamingTV]

So the marquee is washed out on this review. But it’s not washed out on Michael B’s review LOL. Good review 19k fox.

[@BobaTheFett1970]

$299 black Friday..... this ridge racer, and Killer Instinct....so I pulled the trigger on killer instinct. I even got a promo code to work for another $45 off!!

[@raysalas4258]

Just picked it up for $399, thanks for the review!

[@19kfox]

Enjoy! 🦊👊🏼

[@killerklown79]

Therese's not alot of room in the guns to add weights like people do with the buck hunter rifles. Maybe some strategically placed steel putty would work. How would you be able to take the cabinet apart to replace parts down the road beings you glued the dowels and put locktight on the screws?

[@19kfox]

The back panel is still removable to access the PCB and wiring. The Blue lock-tite is not an adhesive. It's a sticky compound that doesn't dry and helps prevent the fastener from backing out of the threads.

[@chrismack8792]

Great vid! Yeah I always loved this game but you’re right I’m going to hold out for some sale prices

[@DaMoneyFan]

Did you remove the plastic sheet off the Marquee because mine is super bright and overkill with the glue ...good luck taking apart ...

[@19kfox]

I’ve never had an issues taking apart my cabinets when using Blue Loctite, now Red Loctite would be a different story.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

I remember the T2 arcade game machine.

[@MoviesMarkLoves]

Ok kfox. Straight up. If you meaning me, can only get 1 cab between r.r. and t2 due to cost, which do you think is better? I've already got outrun. Kinda want a shooter but, not sure if this is the one for me at 7 big ones with 1 game. Do the guns make it worth it? R.r. also has more games so...which do you like better overall?

[@19kfox]

Ridge Racer but if you already have Outrun I would go with T2.

[@MoviesMarkLoves]

@@19kfox Thanks Kfox. Go Bengals. I know you're a Cowboys fan. Me I love the Niners. But that is moot for this year ! Gotta pull for Who Dey?.!!!

[@turbinegraphics16]

The retical was moving jerky, I don't think the original did that.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Good Job Buddy, enjoyed the video !

[@fab-antonio]

That was a great honest review. Thanks

[@Jason_NSS]

Great and honest review 19K! Thanks so much! 👍🏻

[@andrewmoore7927]

Wouldn't be surprised if they release a revised model later on

[@belavet]

I don't even think I'd bite at $500 personally. Maybe I'm cheap lol. I'd probably be in right around $350. As far as the cables, I think some of those cable wraps that make the cable just look thicker would look really good. Unsure what they are called but I use them to route cables up to my ceiling. Looks like it's "supposed to be there" rather than just a dangling cable.

[@purgs8]

Hey man, your videos are great . I just got mine and I’m all plugged up but the title doesn’t light up. I have it connected the way you have and when i turn it on, the game turns on but no light up, is there a switch on the light i have to turn on?

[@19kfox]

If you’re talking about the marquee I suggest laying the cabinet on its side a removing one of the side panels. Then you can verify that the led light is on or off. Your problem could be that the marquee graphic was not printed on translucent film.

[@FreddyMarcel09]

Great review. I appreciate it.

[@timotheetessier1058]

Nine months ago you said it was a great $500 cabinet but the problem was that it WAS $700. Here in the first week of December 2022 Walmart has it for $299 , Which I feel is a lot easier to stomach.

[@tdubpinoy13]

I'm debating on buying it since it's now $600. I only have room for one arcade1up would you buy T2 or pinball or wait for one of the new releases? I only have tmnt

[@19kfox]

Decide which style of game you enjoy the most, pinball or shooters. Personally, I would lean toward T2.

[@brentrusche2056]

@19kfox, Thanks for the in-depth tear down of the guns and honest review of the cabinet. I am more than happy to have made the decision to NOT purchase the T2 from A1Up. Those guns...my oh my....those guns! I will wait for some upgraded components on the next A1Up light gun cabinet. However, I might be the next collateral damage on the block if/when they release Smash T.V. (A1Up already has my money!). Cheers, Brent

[@MartyMcFly3]

As soon as you opened up that gun, I knew I was dealing with a baby's toy. Despite the large size, I've decided to save up for the original T2 cab.

[@robkrasinski6217]

You mean you have to use your hands? That's like a baby's toy. Good luck with you getting the original T2. An ideal situation would be to get an original gun cab and find jamma boards for other gun games and swap boards when you want to play a different game. Or, get retro lizard's gun cab or drive or pc which will have over 100 light gun games on it. T2 wasn't really a light gun game, it used fixed guns on pedestals that swiveled and they were like giant joysticks. On the SNES and Genesis, it was made to use a controller or an optional light gun accessory like Super Scope for the SNES version. I'm sure T2 can be modded to play other games but other guns might have to be used with a pc. At that point you might as well gut a cheaper 1up cab.

[@Allen-v1r]

Which is a better cabinet as far as fun factor - T2 or ridge racer? Thank you

[@19kfox]

T2. 🦊👊🏼

[@Sleepysnorlax1]

FYI - $550 at Walmart online today. I had to check out some reviews before placing the order.

[@19kfox]

It pays to be patient. 🦊👊🏼

[@chaos120]

good review. some interesting info! do the graphics have a smoothing filter always on? i heard it does.

[@19kfox]

I'm not sure. There's not a selectable option in the settings menu.

[@tdubpinoy13]

Does the logitech z313 come with the audio splitter to connect to arcade1up or did you buy it separately?

[@GamersReckoning]

Can you please tell me if your cab has a buzz even when the volume is all the down? Also does the sound cut out every few seconds while playing. You can test this by just letting the game play without firing. I noticed it right away and if I turn the volume up it is even more noticable. I contacted A1up and they gave me the whole we try and make it 1 to 1 with the arcade spill and if an update comes out we'll let you know. Also does your board on the back of the monitor have a red light on constantly and the metal plate covering it get really hot?

[@michaelallaire6296]

Hey you experience any weird knocking sounds in the audio that kind of skips the gameplay when it happens like a knocking sound

[@castleranch738]

Another review mentioned this as another cab having soft screen filtering without any way to turn it off and no way to add scan lines. Was it this way for yours as well?

[@19kfox]

I couldn’t tell if a soft screen filter was used. Sadly no scanline option either.

[@castleranch738]

@@19kfox man...this really makes me wonder. Hearing this from another review literally stopped me from heading out to Best Buy as I was about to pick it up.

[@PaulXMann]

So, it seems like the sound is still a bit of an issue... dang, what is it with these recent cabs that they can't figure out how to do decent-quality audio? Is it a subtle ploy to get people to buy the "pro" version if they want something better? I hate to say it, but I could almost see it being something that dicey... that they'll consciously opt not to fix just to help push people up-market. The plot thickens.

[@bonafidepicker7033]

I would like to see follow up reviews on newer cabs after 30 to 60 days to see how they are holding up. Thoughts

[@19kfox]

I like it.

[@amoshumphrey1136]

Thx for the tips. Great video. Thx again

[@mynameisprivate158]

Very weird,authentic Terminator used mounted joysticks in the shape of guns and not real lightguns. Operation Wolf did as well.

[@MoviesMarkLoves]

Kfox. I see once again that.you took one for the team. That is above and beyond the call of duty, cracking open literally a light gun to show us what's inside. You are the class of the gaming community dude. And easily.the coolest.person living in the trim state area. I have lots.of family in the Cinci area so I outta know. Lol

[@davidp6552]

That clicking gun noise is so cheesy. The gun noise also way louder than the game volume ! $700 is ridiculous

[@petermarasco1105]

Just as I suspected...been saying it all along, they need to focus on quality. You can't jack up prices by $200 and expect to sell consumers the same cheap hardware. Disappointing, but Best Buy will have it on sale by July.

[@Sigma_Fish]

Pro tip. Don’t put glue or loctite on your fasteners. Unless you want to destroy them if you have to take it apart to move to a new location or ship it to a new owner in the future

[@19kfox]

😂 How does threadlocker destroy fasteners? Only use wood glue one side of the dowel as shown in the video. This will allow you to disassemble the unit.

[@102Lawdog]

19kfox. Looking at other people's marquee including Michael B. I think you should submit a support ticket. I am supposed to get mine today which will probably be tomorrow with FedEx speed. I will comment again when I get it regarding my marquee.

[@mnomic8371]

Great video. Yeah $700 is rather steep especially with one game and a missing protective plastic cover for the lightgun. Surely you can contact Arcade1up and they will send you a replacement gun or part. With it’s overpricing, lowish sound and dim marquie, overall I still think T2 kicks ar*e and it looks awesome in your room 👍🏻

[@scottsoltani3203]

Hold out til under 500. Loved the movie, never got into the game. Bought TMNT at 549 I’m happy with it. I have the first TMNt will probably sell it. The new TMNt sound sucks until you hook it up to some bigger speakers. Arcade1up has potential to be really great, I love the games released, but they need to get the playability, sound, and build better at these new prices.

[@robkrasinski6217]

They are cheap knockoffs with poor quality parts and even damage issues in production and shipping. They are really not worth the high prices. And the large cabinets are a pain to build. The countercades and partycades are prebuilt. There are other companies out there that make higher quality brand new arcade cabinets like game room solutions, and others. The X-Arcade stick is very high quality and it fits on a 1up with flat side panel edges. You can play console systems with it.

[@s.fleming2441]

T2 has been a movie that has yet to be matched in greatness, so I will be buying this just as a way to get T2 graphics in my living room. But i am unsure how to pay that full price. I wonder how long they will make these for and when the best (meaning cheapest) time to buy is. This is a unique product all T2 fans will want, but I am not an insane movie buff that will pay any price, even is this looks nice. They got me in a bind, its the best movie ever, but the quality just isn't quite high enough to pay 900$ taxes in (Canada price)

[@19kfox]

Agreed. Walmart in the US has the price down to $550 from $699. 🦊👊🏼

[@s.fleming2441]

@@19kfox that's a price I would pay right now!

[@michael9877]

I still want to buy myself one And on the kick plate I'm installing a 13 inch tv screen and blu ray player and watch T2 movie and put this in my arcade room.

[@19kfox]

That will be epic.

[@rickhoes6326]

Fox you let me down. Once again we get another review with no mention of how they did with the emulation! Oh well. I already have the cab and hold the #3 spot on the arcade settings leaderboards baby! Get good 👍

[@briansloane5405]

did you take the film off the marquee?

[@brandonmiller7322]

Nicely done review man now that you have the gun open you should figure out how to add some weight inside

[@lacrossed55]

Pro tip: Have your Lego maniac kids assemble it.

[@Iceman51686]

So at $399 would you say that’s a bargain? I picked one up, probably put it together in a couple of weeks. Thank you for sharing the mod to hide those cables!

[@19kfox]

Absolutely!

[@b.o.353]

Jesus that’s a TEENY TINY screen. If I’m backing up 3 feet the screen needs to be bigger than a 1981 Automated Teller Machine. Thanks for that great review. Too expensive.

[@robkrasinski6217]

How about the Geekworm board then to use a larger screen? Maybe a 19" or 20" that fits in the cab with a Tulsa mount. I saw mods for Big Buck where they mounted a big flat TV to the cabinet.

[@b.o.353]

@@robkrasinski6217 if they’d make the cab smaller but keep the original sized screen then it’d be great.

[@videogamevegasYeOldeAccount]

19kfox, Another solid review! I had a question. I know playing shoulder to shoulder with someone on this cabinet may be difficult for bigger people due to the size of an Arcade1up. Will the light guns work if two people are shooting off angle from the sides? I'd be interested in knowing how far off angle you can be and the light guns still registering. Thanks again for the review! vgv

[@19kfox]

Absolutely, once you step back around three feet you can shoot off-angle with impressive precision.

[@videogamevegasYeOldeAccount]

19kfox, So cool! Thanks for the info! I agree with you, at $500, it's a more palatable price, I'm just sad that Arcade1up could only secure the T2 license by only including the one game. With the guns setup differently than the original T2 Arcade machine, this would've been perfect for other shooters as well. Still, having this in your Arcade will really set it off! vgv

[@robkrasinski6217]

I wish you could mod it and use the stock guns, like throw Rev X on there. If you get this and a better gun cab is announced down the road, will you have buyer's remorse? Big Buck had 4 games. Maybe a Sega or Namco gun cab will as well, or even more. This was a hit in arcades in the early 90's but then newer 3D and polygon gun games came out like Area 51, Maximum Force, Site 4, House of the Dead, Virtua Cop, Carnevil, etc. and T2 started to look dated. There was also a SNES and Genesis version called T2: The Arcade Game.

[@MooreTainted]

Great stuff

[@jjimenez3976]

How do recalibrate my guns having trouble

[@JeffMercedesC]

My Terminator 2 arcade cabinet was shipped on Monday and has not moved from it's original location because of FedEx operational delays. Total BS!

[@JamesNGames]

Even when my Mavel LE is on 0 you can still hear it. 😂 it's faint but it's there

[@19kfox]

You know my pain.

[@ShiftyC1202]

Is yours saving your wifi password? I have to keep re-entering mine every time I fire it up like it’s not saving it. My nba jam live feature works flawlessly. Wondering if it’s a PCB issue

[@Riiiiiiiiiiiiiip]

Can these USB Sinden guns plug into a PC for mame?

[@brandossportsworld]

Just picked this up at a rental company for $275, come to find out I get home and the red gun isn’t working. Any suggestions? What would you do? Thanks Fox.

[@brandossportsworld]

Nvm I think I got it figured out. ☺️

[@19kfox]

Awesome.

[@scottcardinal6147]

You can hide cables

[@Chaoitcme]

The prices of these just don't justify me buying them. I live in Canada so paying Canadian dollars on these is painful. If they were half the price I would consider buying some of these but it makes more sense to just buy a custom made cabinet that has built in emulators so you can play hundreds of games.

[@videogamepolak0]

wow and the orig arcade was mounted gun..now u hafta to stand back ill pay $50 for this cab when its on clearance

[@RUOK2000]

great review thank you

[@GokuBlack-gz4fy]

Finally bought mine at $550 and my X-Men came in today Atari comes in tomorrow t2 Monday and Defender Tuesday or Wednesday

[@19kfox]

An epic week indeed. Sweet KZbin handle, just saiyan. 🦊👊🏼

[@GokuBlack-gz4fy]

@@19kfox I've attended plenty of your live streams before sorry I haven't in a while I was working graveyards and sleeping during the day but now after almost 8 years lost my job and looking all over again but had extra income to score all of them including a 4 in one pool table so I'll be looking to rejoining your live streams while looking for a job

[@Madlou]

Question: If you turn off the rumble do you hear machine gun sounds when you pull the triggers?

[@19kfox]

Yes but the sound is a little muffled.

[@MrMurphdogg24]

What’s the height of your riser that you have the T2 cabinet on?

[@19kfox]

All my cabinets share a 4” riser.

[@michaeljordan6008]

I drink a lot of that Coke Zero or whatever they call it now.

[@thechampagneroom1]

this looks fire

[@wasoha]

3:28 what size plastic washers should I get?

[@19kfox]

You can find them on Amazon uxcell Plastic Flat Washers 11mm OD 5mm ID 1mm Thickness Sealing Gasket for Faucet Pipe Water Hose, White, Pack of 100 www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTSK2VL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CXXVRDM9R6478X6NKCE7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[@MoviesMarkLoves]

Itd be quite a commute tho from Cali haha

[@rodorodo3387]

Can you connect this arcade PCB to external TV by HDMI and play ?

[@19kfox]

Not without an additional aftermarket board.

[@FootieLaughs]

Nice review

[@NewportBox100s]

How do you afford all of these nice arcades?

[@19kfox]

Hard work and an understanding wife.

[@tdubpinoy13]

Does the audio need to be modded or is it alright the way it is?

[@19kfox]

It’s ok. The volume is low even on maximum setting. I’d do my subwoofer mod to take it to the next level. Here’s the link for the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXrbqIypeNyUbNE

[@tdubpinoy13]

@@19kfox did you add the speakers to your T2 or just the sub like your MVC? Also what's your opinion on arcade1up pinball machines?

[@ShinobiShowdown]

The fact it only has one game makes it not worth $700 all the Arcade 1up marquees are washed out. I use arcade factory marquees. I would use your audio mod with the logitech speakers on every 1up I did it on mine thanks for the audio mod tip!