【Arcaea】 CHAOS [Future 10+] Chart View

Æsir - CHAOS

[@x-y-z-f]

I think they could've made a more fun lvl 10 or 9+ chart with this song, there are so many good songs in cytus 2 that would've been more fitting for a 10+ imo (I would've loved to see chrome vox, xyz, code name sigma or incyde which are some of my faves)

[@s1logen]

They're doing a part 2 soon. Stay tuned for more fun and hell 😝

[@ConeCats.]

I actually like the chart, and the new patterns do pose a challenge, but why map the unheard rhythms? Its called rhythm gaming not metronome gaming

[@pastrl5285]

This!

[@Zkr7]

Umm actually its just about speaker problem maybe? in my phone, all beat/rhythm are clear in ear

[@mylkrenebjorson7244]

This! Arguably some sound exist in the song, but clearly there’s better sound mapping choice out there. MicroHazard’s CHAOS fanmade is an exceptional example on how to extract the rhythm from the song compare to this.

[@NotOrdinaryTofu]

The chart is kinda complex, for the multifinger itself. I'm actually never understand what is going on. But that's kinda overcharted imo

[@NotOrdinaryTofu]

Also, if you confused about 1:38 and 1:58 part, try swtiching hand with arc at 1:37 and 1:56

[@TomatoTamago-d7s]

If it is skill issue why not ask the rankers' opinion? From what I've seen so far, most of them think that the chart is not enjoyable at all and the patterns doesn't fit the chart at all. I PMed max-16 the chart, I also think that this chart is one of the worst, maybe even the worst 10+. Mostly beacuse it is overcharted. Crosshands everywhere, doesn't mean that it is fun, and it doesn't mean that it is suitable for the song. I agree that exschwasion do have some weird and new ideas. But unlike Toaster and Nitro, they consider the patterns whether it would fit the song. Just like in Lucid Traveller, the patterns are new and fitting. However, it seems that Exschwasion do not consider that. He just cramp all his ideas into this chart without thinking about the song. It is not that I hate Exschwasion, he did marvelous in charts such as redolent shape and loschen. Well done exschwasion. The chart literally ruined the song. I had such a high expectation on the chart. Edit: Forgot to say that Exschwasion charted so much unheard rhythms. This is also another severe problem in the chart.

[@TomatoTamago-d7s]

Another thing to add on, I seldom say that an official chart is bad. So the chart really is an exception

[@EdenyEnola]

it isn't a bad thing that there are people who enjoy it, not for me though lol

[@sikaydalapixia5924]

@@TomatoTamago-d7s me, too. Like Hybris is just the best chart across the whole game. Exschwasion feels like the two-edged-sword in arcaea chart team, good chart is just extremely good, some is kinda controvertial though. TBH, he is still my favorite charter.

[@affin1176]

Well said. Exschwasion is very creative in charting but the style just doesn't fit with the song.

[@bing-chilling1713]

Agreed, the fan made chart is just miles better than this, good thing I can save some memories now.

[@gdblazeboi2532]

Imagine what they will do with V. 💀

[@mik0z474]

i have heart atk just thinking about it

[@aesthetiqueCakKe]

Bruh why y’all keep bringing up V they ain’t gonna add it! 😭😭

[@etern1tydark]

​@@aesthetiqueCakKe..it might happen

[@thuan8782]

@@aesthetiqueCakKe Chances might be slim, but with their newest tweet, it's possible

[@borpaLick]

@@aesthetiqueCakKe they just released a really cryptic tweet with a distorted image, and in the center of it you can see “V.” so

[@rudyranger249]

The comment section here and at the fanmade video literally just proves people like simple generic gameplay over fun creative gameplay. A good chart doesn't have to use the same gameplay used in 10 other charts. I don't think there's any better way to make a chart with this song than this official chart. Pls stop complaining because you cant farm ptt thanks.

[@titobagus7929]

Ah sure, exchwasion with his goofy ah charts Good chart but i think it's overcharted

[@Zkr7]

This chart is amazing, and probably one of hardest 10+(seriously, all 10+ lately is hard af)

[@ParagraphUnderscore]

God, this chart is…hmm… This chart really is a fucking give or take because you can see two polar opposites literally in this video’s comments section. What I find absolutely jarring (and also stupidly ass) is that they decided to make CHAOS a 10+. In no way of this entire song can be made as a 10+, the song’s melody, drum pattern, and even the fucking sidechain chords being consistently in 8ths and 16ths. Only 12ths appear in the middle of the dubstep-ish drop(?), and a small part at that. Why, in the absolute hell, is this made as a 10? This is the same issue with TEmPTaTiON, jarring flow with stupidly unnecessary difficulty. The only difference is that I find the Cytus reference more fun than the maimai reference in TEmPTaTiON. All in all, this chart is really give or take because it’s literally the type of flow when you tap your table while listening to the song.

[@-DARAI-]

この曲調で10+ならさぞ嫌らしい譜面になるんだろうなとは思ったし案の定だったけど割と好き

[@nullptr0_]

Even I get PM on this chart, I still don't like this chart much :(

[@crzes2258]

慣れたらクソだとは思わなくなったけど間違いなく大半の11よりきついので11.3行け

[@okeanos5150]

I feel like there are so many people underestimated the complexity in rhythm in this song ( the melody, the percussion and that kinda dubstep thing at second half of this song is so intense but they blend so well so the part doesn't feel tense). This song has potential to be 10+ imo. You might get used to the the chart of this song in Cytus II which is easy, I prefer Arcaea version more tho. The charter really pull out all elements in the song to the max. Cheer up the charter🎉 btw, who charted this song?

[@nabedesu7708]

Excshwasion charted this, but its not about the rhythm complexity. This chart just that overcharted. Half of the chart requires u to crosshand, kinda kills the fun especially with how packed the notes are. I dont have anything against the charter, but too much of crosshand could kill the fun too

[@hcy0587]

絕滅 is Excshwasion, he also charted TEmPTaTiON from the Maimai collab (he used EXTINCTION in this case, in which 絕滅 is similar to the word extinction in chinese and japanese (probably)

[@slvyc]

I hate this chart more than any chart in any game. It's skill issue on my side, but god i hate it

[@cryochemist1032]

Exsch casually pulling out insane tech as usual, and I'm all here for it

[@cryochemist1032]

Played it and what can I say? Lowiro please make Extinction 10+s more common

[@c0rruptedcry5ta17]

1 am chart review 4: I am going to get thrashed for this...but i find this chart fun and i dont really undertsand why this one got so much hate. Yeah the arcs are what people could find way aggressive but somehow i found hitting those highly aggressive arcs satisfying. Then again i cant really explain how much i enjoy this coherently especially since its 1 am here and im really just writing a review for every single one of these charts for some reason idk im not a masochist Ethier way, i like this chart

[@maxnolife_]

They really pulled it off with the arcs in the dubstep part. It feels so complex but still it fits

[@cryochemist1032]

Imo most of the chart is solid but overdone

[@LUKI4SS]

ive seen a lot of people say this chart sucks but imo its actually really fun 😭😭 i love it

[@jarjarv6568]

It is. It just takes practice. I’m sure more people will like this chart as time goes on.

[@frankie391]

yeah i think this chart is as fun as lucid traveller, not sure why people hate it lul. if it's overcharted then welp just think that it's an 11. People also say that Temptation is bad for the same reason, and my advice would also be: consider it an 11. The note placement is weird and uncomfortable because it's supposed to be!

[@sikaydalapixia5924]

Temptation is quite fun to me since a lot of pattern can be mult fingered.

[@WDMutton]

It's fun for me too. 😁

[@void5516]

​​​​@@frankie391thats literally not how it works. If it is overcharted for the sake of being 11/10+ then it might as well been a 10+/10. It means they forced the difficulty and it can still be fun but just more annoying to everyone. Esp to PM players trying to pure perfect notes not even part of the song. Edit: Also, overcharting not the same as uncomfortable hand placement. I think it is fine to have those it just means memorising which people dont like but I am okay with it tbh

[@めるか-g8g]

叩いてて楽しくない。　 過去最悪かもしれない

[@AsianMan628]

exschwasion went way too crazy on this one

[@Storm_MY_kaminari]

I won't say this is the worst 10+ chart but it's not that good. Tell ya what, at first sight the chart is VERY difficult to read. Normal streams look like total messes. Not to mention there are various patterns that require your hands to move fast and those are just not smooth. Needless to say, I'm a phone player and I had a hard time trying to upscore. Maybe doing this with a tablet on this chart would be easier.

[@whiteou7.]

"Chart bad because I can't play it"

[@Xenakeyblademaster]

It might be a matter of waiting to see other "advanced players" like EGHD, Bengalee, etc. PM it because of how awkward the patterns are. I imagine most players are gonna have problems with it, so seeing how people try to work around it might spark a bit of extra creativity in getting those higher scores. Barring all the "git gud" trolls in the comments, at least.

[@chezdor]

@@whiteou7. a guy got 1 far away from pming the ftr chart which shows he can play the chart well and can still complain that its a bad chart. Come up with a better argument

[@abombernation3254]

Is it too hard to ask for a 10+ without crosshand overuse nowadays?

[@whiteou7.]

And what's the exact problem with overusing crosshand-focused patterns? Y'all literally have 0 problems when it comes to "overusing" other aspects of a chart such as arcs, notes, trills, speed... Sure you can find it unfun to play, but keep it to yourself and stay subjective.

[@whiteou7.]

I feel like everyone love asking for 10+ every updates but complain when they chart something oddly harder than usual. I feel like y'all love easy 10+ to get free potential to satisfy your ego. "Everyone wants to get 10+ but nobody wants to play 10+"

[@sikaydalapixia5924]

​@@whiteou7.I don't asked for hard chart. I asked for a chart that fit the song and fun to play. Is it strange?

[@okayo_]

​@@sikaydalapixia5924very strange to them. its so insane they would defend charters when someone criticize for them making it overcharted.

[@zomzombos8257]

Agree. 10+ have some of the most fun and unfun charts in the game. Cyaegha Halcyon Amazing Mightyyyy >>> Temptation Divine Light of Myriad Chaos

[@AkaruiYAGI]

honestly to me this chart has the same issue as TEmPTaTiON. the crosshands are the only reason this is even considered a 10+, but unlike TEmPTaTiON this song doesn't really fit that difficulty all that much. something else should've definitely taken the hardest song spot if they were planning to have a 10+, CHAOS ain't it as it sounds like it'd be a mid 10 at most

[@yuuhk]

The definition of "hard" today is abusing crosshands, nice job lowiro.

[@Dadinyan]

This is just one chart...

[@Zkr7]

But its still "Hard" regardless, cross hand also the way to make it hard, especially in Arcaea

[@NoovGuyMC]

Definition of hard in a context of something always change overtime soo, this is fine

[@nabedesu7708]

I think this chart was too over charted, expected it to be easier tho...

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

Wtf is 1:40

[@nabedesu7708]

@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 half of the chart is just crosshand dude...this chart makes temptation looks easy. This chart is by far the worst 10+ ever charted imo

[@Zkr7]

@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 i don't able to read that part but thats the good thing about it, i love hard chart

[@mylkrenebjorson7244]

This is not a good chart. One of the worst chart I’ve played. Pattern not fit the song, the note rhythm does not need to be that full. A lot of note placements is too hard to hit, as if finger has no collision. Even trying to exploit the arc, but some note placements are so bad and unnecessary hard to hit. At least temptation is exploitable, this does not.

[@whiteou7.]

🤓🤓🤓 "This is not a good chart. One of the worst chart I’ve played. Pattern not fit the song, the note rhythm does not need to be that full. A lot of note placements is too hard to hit, as if finger has no collision. Even trying to exploit the arc, but some note placements are so bad and unnecessary hard to hit. At least temptation is exploitable, this does not." 🤓🤓🤓

[@lyd1987]

Skill issue

[@Selthir]

skill issue ma man

[@aesthetiqueCakKe]

Yeah they made it super awkward, but I love that XD

[@syifakamila9813]

Just get better lol + Skill issue

[@Kelpoflakey]

I was expecting it to be worse based on all the reactions. the chart isn’t that bad

[@_4y4m3_ch4n_]

Arcaea players trying to not complain about technical gameplay in a high difficulty chart challenge (IMPOSSIBLE):

[@okayo_]

the song wasnt supposed to be high difficulty?????? we want the chart to be fun and fit the song and not overcharted???? hello?? whats your point here

[@_4y4m3_ch4n_]

@@okayo_ 1. Bro, do you even see the 10+ in the difficulty???? (Well, 10+ and 11s are already high difficulties for me, so idk) 2. It does fit???? The arcs and slams are intense enough for this song, and the note placements are very tech-y 3. Just.... look at the other replies bro (or just look through most comments in Stalight's chart view videos)

[@okayo_]

@@_4y4m3_ch4n_ 1. the song wasnt supposed to be intense? it shouldve been based on the song, not the difficulty. 2. idk what you on but it doesnt fit. the song wasnt supposed to be intense in the first place. im fine if they want to be tech but holy shit make it good and not the sake of the difficulty. 3. what replies bro

[@AkaruiYAGI]

arcaea fans are allowed to be critical and not like literally every aspect of a new update, we can have opinions good or bad about something. if that's somehow a concept you and the others still can't comprehend there's no hope in this community when it comes to tolerating criticism towards their game

[@_4y4m3_ch4n_]

@@okayo_ 1. the song is literally the first climax in Cytus 2, bruh. 2. "Im fine if they want to be tech but holy shit make it good and not the sake of the difficulty." Bro, everyone else said this in, like, every 10+ ever (in post-4.0, at least) 3. I literally mentioned where to find said comments. All you have to do is read them ^^"

[@Hue_Sam]

Here it comes. Oh yeah, looks like it’s a bit rough. Exsch is mean with this one…

[@chakonleung8675]

Recommended using multifinger. Especially for arcs

[@どらどら-e8h]

ひどい譜面。無理やり10＋にしました！って感じが溢れてる

[@okayo_]

"the chart is fun" yeah not fun to pm btw, one of the worst 10+, it just doesnt fit the song like extremely overcharted so many unnessasary crosshands. most people pmed it doesnt ENJOY the chart at all

[@okayo_]

fun charting is subjective, good charting is not subjective.

[@idiotcism2147]

too braindead to do the tech so i focus on speed and cheese half of the patterns

[@HyperCreatorX]

0:22-0:30 definitely an Exschwasion chart but with 4-hold parts from Grievous Lady and World Vanquisher

[@Selthir]

the charters either high in meth, or drunk to make this abominatiom of a chart😂 anyway, its fun once you get used to it, but well, it defeated 1f1e33 for being the most bs chart there is edit: as for the new partner, its rng based, the gauge has 5 sections with a circle that refers to the 3 emotions, frag, step and over. if lucky, you can get 5 frag, 5 step or 5 over in one play, something you can have for daily use if you want, pretty effective for climbing world mode if lucky, or frag farming, tho theres better options out there, at least ilith and ivy are not limited like mika yurisaki

[@CodeName_HrnK]

A mix of Pentiment, Arcana Eden, and something else, the chart is dirty as fuck

[@mistertoddynho423]

Isn't this a bit overcharted (⁠◉⁠‿⁠◉⁠)??

[@Aaakun054]

これをゴミ譜面って言ってる人はただ単調な譜面でも楽しいのかな？普通に楽しい譜面だと思う！

[@rainhsieh0629]

idk why but I think GL is easier imo

[@Galaxaidy]

Thought itd be easier guess not

[@SnowCarrot1206]

i am sure this is a pretty cool chart, and cooperate with the music, ah……

[@arekusu2799]

"next patch is going to be relaxing and chill" boy was I wrong

[@under_jr]

テンプテと同じで慣れたら楽な譜面 でも初見は確実に10+の難易度では無い

[@고기맛사탕-y3i]

엄.. 높게쳐도 10렙이라 생각했는데

[@Rlyo2E2]

this one is an 11 for sure

[@WDMutton]

Guys, it's CHAOS ffs. It supposed to be chaotic. Btw I'm one of the people that like this chart.

[@AkaruiYAGI]

okay and? the song doesn't have the intensity to warrant this difficulty. almost everyone I know had predicted CHAOS to be a second 10 because that's what the song feels like it calls for.

[@WDMutton]

@@AkaruiYAGI It's boss song in Cytus 2 you know. Why should the boss song be a second 10? And the last half of the song seems intensed to me, the dubsteps part.

[@Zkr7]

@@AkaruiYAGI idk what you mean but its a boss song you know, please at least give some credit to charter that really make it a hard chart to fit its boss song tittle despite the song being calm for 50% part... Also, i don't think nowdays the song intesity are really matter especially in collab, its boss song so they should make it hardest on pack.. Chaos song aura is really "boss-ish" tho, even if they turn it to 11 i wouldn't mind

[@okeanos5150]

"Hard doesn't mean bad." Literally, every 10+ got updated, there's always people screaming "Bad charting" like "always". Isn't 10+ supposed to be hard to play? Y'all screamed Temptation has bad charting (bcuz it ""WAS"" so hard before) and now Chaos came here, you acted like Temptation has good charting all of sudden. This screams "SKILL ISSUE" to me fr. You didn't even try to get used to the chart before whining. PS:I bet that next 10+ y'all will scream "bad charting"again, pretty sure of it.

[@sikaydalapixia5924]

No, who said spider thread is bad? Temptation is a fun chart. Pragmatism byd is unique and fun to play. But chaos is still a bad chart. Why do you come to the conclusion that people would yell bad chart on hard chart???

[@okeanos5150]

Moreover, I really like slam arc in Lucid traveler and Chaos. Slam arc is normal in arcaea but the way it was used in these two song is so interesting. It really added some spicy to the chart, so creative.

[@frankie391]

real shit

[@sikaydalapixia5924]

@@okeanos5150 what the fuck, getting in touch with bad mouth people is your thing. Most of player i know are pretty nice and chill, strange.

[@frankie391]

@@sikaydalapixia5924 spiders thread receives mostly positive comments is because it's too easy comparing to the real CC (10.8), and it has the whole unique spider's web drawn by traces. chaos is obviously not a 10.9 Temptation for you it's fun, for me it's fun, but for most people it's not (and the most popular reason is just skill issue related) Pragmatism byd is an 11, so it should be hard, and if you look at old Stalight's videos, people said it's overcharted (and thus it's bad)

[@Mr.Ponton]

the cut the the best part of the chorus :')

[@arcycola5]

Honestly, this isn't a bad chart. It is just charted weirdly since it's another tech chart. But hey, it is chaotic enough as the song title suggests.

[@user-yuancode]

Quite hard chart for the 10+(even though the arc and the note strangely fit for me, I still think it got overcharted), the charter didn't think that overcharting represent the song itself right? Nice ref at 1:35 though

[@Reunomi]

I tried to convince myself to like the chart but so many parts doesn't fit well, not complaining about the difficulty but rather the patterns itself, got an EX gonna try for high EX+ and I'll see if my opinion will change Edit: THE ARCS ON THE DROP ARE JUST TOO AWKWARD TO PLAY I CANNOT

[@tydude]

Me dying at 2:04 lol. I watch gba do it but I still have trouble

[@shuyotirah9132]

0:58 as much as stress inducing this chart is, this part is really fun i like it

[@Eokoi]

I don't play rythm games often. I don't know how a human can complete this. I'm genuinely amazed at you guys completing something like this (I know it's just a showcase in the video)

[@abcdef-ms9mb]

The key is your first sentence. Nobody who doesn't play rhythm games very often can understand rhythm games on a high skill level. Only if you try and spend time and effort getting to a decent level will you understand that your limits lie much further than you initially believed.

[@Eokoi]

@@abcdef-ms9mb Thanks for the advice! I've picked up Muse Dash independently (& a few other rythm games), without noticing your comment (missed it, sorry), and now I know how to complete this and can complete levels like those :)

[@KorryNaemon]

2:34 is there timing group used? Some skynote has different speed

[@Amir-ip8mk]

No it's just that notes are going horizontally down, therefore appear faster behind one another

[@aomine6817]

I knew it was going to be cropped :(

[@Xenakeyblademaster]

So I'm not the only one that's seriously lost on the charting for this whole pack... did they just pick bad songs for how arcaea is played, or did they do a terrible job at charting what they picked???

[@ZirconKZX]

Based on the Charter name, It spells "Extinction", that means... oh no.

[@Xenakeyblademaster]

​... ah fuck. That's how my fingers feel right now. But if it's Extinction, then I think we have Vanessa coming our way....

[@frankie391]

@@Xenakeyblademasterextinction is just an alias of Exschwasion (same is applied in Temptation loading screen)

[@Xenakeyblademaster]

​@@frankie391ah, okay. Still, it's ironic to have the charter be Extinction knowing the Cytus 2 story and the whole Ender Virus thing

[@whiteou7.]

Nice opinion I bet your have a really good relationship with your parent.

[@user-ef9uv3bp3d]

엄지로 죽는다 이놈들아

[@toeithanakrit2234]

Yes. 4 Holds

[@Amir-ip8mk]

Overcharted and unenjoyable. Took way longer to PM than world ender. The charted went a little too hard, could have saved the chart

[@rsyt.5848]

11.3?

[@aeropropeller8056]

Rad asf

[@aeropropeller8056]

Ok I just played the chart and it's still so fucking rad honestly