Arcaea's Potential System in a nutshell.

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

Updates since the release of this video (as of v6.0.) The current max Potential is *13.24* . The logo for 13 PTT has 3 stars in it. For Free to Play players, you can gain up to *11.73* PTT, at the minimum. If you're F2P and you got all songs from all Extend Archive packs for free, the max PTT you can get right now is *12.02* . This does not take into account any other songs obtained from free Memories or 5th Anniversary Ticket. Unlocking the following would also require reaching a certain Potential: • PRIMITIVE LIGHTS (FTR) at 10 PTT • Abstruse Dilemma (FTR) and Lament Rain (BYD) at 11 PTT • Unlocking Testify through Axiom of the End. Fulfilling 5-IV requires you to submit a play with a Result Rating higher than your PTT. For example, if you're 11.20 PTT, you have to play a song and get a result rating of 11.21 or better (like uhh getting EX on a lvl 10 chart or EX+ on a 9). Checking your Best 30 scores is a good way to determine which songs you can play to fulfill that requirement. This section used to list third-party score prober tools used to track scores and Potential progress, however they have become obsolete and unusable due to the release of Arcaea Online on April 27, 2023. Arcaea Online is accessible by logging into Arcaea's official website (arcaea.lowiro.com/en). One of its features is a way for players to view their Potential progress, best 30 scores, and recent top 10 scores. However, this part of the site is locked behind a subscription costing 200 Memories per month. The only known alternative at this time is to make spreadsheets by manually encoding scores and plugging in the formulas needed to compute result ratings and the Potential itself. Other notes (took me more than a year to notice this oh my god) • (1:02) The Chart Constants for Chronostasis and Attraqtia have been changed in v4.0 (from 9.1 to 8.9, and 10.4 to 10.6). lowiro why tf did yall make chronostasis an 8 • Some unnecessary parts that were originally in the video were trimmed out.

[@arcanumdelta]

tip: if you *really* dont want to lose ppt (ex. if youre warming up/derusting) you can turn off your wifi/internet, but it will also mean you wont be able to gain ppt either (but its up to you)

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

yeah this is a common countermeasure players do; i'd be against this practice but if it works for you and/or if it makes you feel better then why not

[@samuelvancik3762]

I actually do it like this to pick out scores: I leave my internet turned on when turning on the app so I'm signed in, however, turn off the internet after loading into the game. Leaves me signed in but does not immediately save any score. Instead, every time I play a song, the dialogue window for a missing internet connection pops up. Here, I either turn on the internet and tap 'Retry' to send the score, or click ignore and just leave it, depending on whether I upscored or not. I don't do it often, mostly only when I play out of boredom or when I'm scared my score could absolutely ruin my ptt.

[@kuzureta7441]

The reason why I personally enjoy caring about potential is because it makes it more fun when I get sad when I lose potential and it makes me more happy when I gain potential. Especially when I hit a big milestone like 11 ptt

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

That's nice to know! I do acknoledge potential as a way to challenge yourself, or a form of motivation in getting better at the game. That's definitely an okay thing to do as long as you don't let it affect how you play the game negatively. I admit, this is a side that I failed to acknowledge properly in the video, since (now that I think about it) I leaned more on how to avoid letting PTT affect players in a bad way. Thanks for sharing this with us!

[@sleepieststella]

5:00 It’s true. I reached 11 PTT yesterday and honestly, You are better off without Aegle Future. My highest score is a B TRACK LOST Update: I got an A Easy Clear

[@aguynamed_danmooji]

i did AA easy clear but im 2 PTT (song: inkar-usi FTR 7)

[@alextears7153]

this is why i have my show potential disabled. since the ptt system seems so broken if you don’t know how it works, it can piss you off when you get upscore and lose potential since in your mind, it doesn’t make sense. thats why i have it disabled and just play casually, either grinding for some hard-ish songs or bettering at songs that are my level. people really do focus more whether if they gain or lose potential rather than “ooh i’m getting better at this song! let’s go!”

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

Situations like this are one of the reasons why I made this video. There are a lot of stuff about the ptt system that you won't know unless you went asking around in community groups. I intended to include (almost?) everything anyone needs to know, not just how the math works, but also how it can affect a player's progression and mindset. No one exactly knows why you can lose ptt on upscores, but I guess it's a matter of consistency? Like if you hit a high score (sumn on your best 30) before but you can't beat it now, it won't reflect on your current ptt (in this case, recent top 10) until you hit it again. I'm thinking it's like (1) reflecting your current skill at a certain period of time, and (2) proof that you can actually hit those scores consistenly and not done by someone else (which is against ToS btw) Anyways I'm glad that you're setting a good mindset for yourself and casually enjoying the game!

[@a.kojodat7336]

​@@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagelThis reminds me. When I grinded to get Fracture Ray I usually lost at the of Ether Strike and iirc I went from 10.20 something to 9.60 just because of failing a unlock. I feel like they should disable potential for Anomaly unlocking.

[@jacksadowsky6349]

7:13 that's true I'm in 11.73 ptt and i made only A on axium crisis while other people with lower ptt than me have better scores like EX or something

[@Cethic44]

same, i can barely get an AA on axium crisis when i’m at 11.75

[@jacksadowsky6349]

@@Cethic44 finally someone with same problem

[@kutorinota4165]

It depends on the skill set (and device) usually people with good axi scores struggle with what you would find easy

[@jacksadowsky6349]

@@kutorinota4165 exactly

[@kutorinota4165]

@@jacksadowsky6349 mmhmm also looking for moots wanna moot^^

[@Ezallium]

Music selections are 👌

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

lmfaoooo

[@xdYama]

haven't seen you in comment sections in a while

[@tizurl]

Just leaving this out there: Playing for fun and not rushing potential is really the best way to go, if you like the number, sure, but don’t forget that it isn’t the most accurate review of your skill. Focus on upscores more. If you upscored in some way you have gained skill since your last play and if you’re someone who plays mostly for the feel of progress then that should be your measure. For instance, I saw someone who was kinda sad that them being 11.2 ptt having a lower score than (past) 10.8 me and that is a behaviour I don’t recommend. Celebrate achievements, no matter whose, that way, you will also help create an environment who is less focused on that number on top of your screen. I just don’t hide mine because I have people added who like to check up on friend ptts just for fun but the real challenge is in friend score leaderboards for us.

[@michiko7726]

3:59 that's exactly what happened to me a year ago, I played Kanagawa on World Mode with fracture hikari but the game's kinda.. Broken i guess? When the song's almost finished, I pressed the arcs with the correct finger but somehow the arc turns red even tho my hands aren't sweaty and the recollection rate is already at hard gauge so i literally [had to] took my fingers off the screen and just let it track lost, when entering score screen the game literally depletes -0.11 ptt, the hell man (Luckily tho i played Solitary Dream after that and got a Full Recall [EX+] and the game gave me +0.12 ptt)

[@butterchipstm]

Yeah that might be a bug, since as you already know track lost-ing on hard gauge doesn't drop your PTT

[@danielyuan9862]

​@@butterchipstm4:08 Fracture Hikari isn't a Hard Guage, even when it's in Hard Guage mode.

[@maxnolife_]

When I wasn’t very good at the game but I still decided to do charts/Difficulties I wasn’t good at, I lost so much potential (probably around 0.40 - 0.60). Now I can EX/EX+ most 10+ difficulties and EX’d Grievous Lady & Fracture Ray, with 12.08 potential but i’m still a little upset at myself for losing a lot of potential

[@danielyuan9862]

All the potential you lose, you'll eventually get back. It's not like it's gone forever.

[@4sety]

I see PTT as a good goal-setting tool if approached correctly. But I must admit I've been taking it the wrong way as of late. I've been in pretty meh form and haven't managed to ditch the PTT addiction fully, which leads to lots of frustration. I just disabled PTT for now lol

[@anggoroputra5660]

Really good and informative video. Great job!

[@TheUltimateLeo-p2v]

I mean the EX potential-protection exists for a reason. It means that if you can't get a chart to EX (or at least near EX, something like 9.75mil or above), then leave the chart alone. Play other charts until you get enough skills to EX said chart. People who like to play charts that are beyond their levels would often find it difficult to play those charts again, even when their skills improved later, because the wrong muscle memory has stuck to them, and they will find it very difficult to alter the muscle memory. Also, one tip is to always bring hard gauge partners. If you cannot pass the song on hard gauge, chances are that you probably aren't ready for the chart yet.

[@user-yuancode]

Can I include one thing here, the PTT is not needed for luna world mode, instead the PTT decided the lowest difficulty needed instead, you can literally do it on 0.00 if you have Eto. Lower than 5 PTT lowest difficulty needed is past, between 5 and 10 PTT lowest difficulty needed is present and over 10 PTT lowest difficulty needed is future

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

You are correct with the lowest difficulty needed to trigger Luna challenge for the first time with Eto, but yeah the end result for all that is Luna's map in world mode being unlocked. It's not necessarily not needed bcs you won't get Luna without that challenge

[@b4s1l.3xe3]

this explains why my PTT tends to increase a lot after grinding songs while getting upscores :0 the whole PTT system is so complicated cries ;-;

[@soupppp_]

you can also practice w/ no internet too if you’re worried about you ptt

[@remixtheidiot5771]

Arcaea potential is osu! PP lol Half joking aside, my potential is rated at around 11.30 It fluctuates whenever I play, but that's the average. I've kinda "peaked" in the sense that I haven't been able to make this go higher for... A really long time now. Though it's not really. I just decided since potential doesn't unlock anything beyond getting an 11.0 I just decided I don't give a damn. If I tried like I did when I was a measly 9.0 who could barely do any FTR9's on my way to grinding to 11 to get SAIKYO I could probably get to 12.0 as well, or at the very least 11.50. I just don't care. The journey is always more important than the destination. Getting hung up on methods is a way to make yourself unhappy very quickly, and that's exactly what potential and PP in Arcaea and osu! are. Much like how getting too focused on gaining money can make you unhappy. Money is a means, not an end, always remember the reason you were gaining those cash in the first place. Buying all the Arcaea songs of course Huehuehuehueh-

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

I'm honestly in the same situation as you, except that my ptt is at around 11.12 right now. I agree with everything you said, and yeah what's more important is that we have fun playing the game. Also idk how osu pp works but i wanna search for it sometime later lmao

[@danielyuan9862]

​​​@@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagelosu!'s pp is worse becuase 1. The charts are made by the community, so there are many more songs, and lots of opportunity to play songs that give too much pp, and 2. pp is calculated by some algorithm, so it doesn't always reflect the difficulty of the song accurately.

[@천사들]

the next level instrumental rlly fits arcaea

[@phucpinku]

it took me 1 month to go from 10.92 to 11. MAN! finally can unlock abstruse dilemma :)

[@xdYama]

this video is really good. i subscrobed. really underrated

[@Bugingas]

mfw i go from 12.05 to 11.94 just trying to play new, unfamiliar songs

[@Tunikoo]

Here's the guide video I was looking for, thank you

[@Wtfeeeeeec]

When your score gap between 200-500k AA RANK HIGHEST AND CURRENTLY RESULT IS A RANK PROBABLY KEEP OR -1 PTT

[@dyltan]

Me somehow getting a AA rank on fracture ray 11 but on most 10+ or 10 difficulty charts I get track lost, or rank C, don't question, there are few exceptions tho

[@mcpardoatyourservice2595]

I literally remind someone laughed at me in the discord svr cause i have aweken Tairitsu at 9.89 ptt-

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

🤔🤔 huh awakening and potential aren't really related to each other, you can awaken anyone anytime as long as you have the cores... but hey congrats on awakening tairitsu, she's pretty

[@mcpardoatyourservice2595]

@@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel Ik awenked Tai is cute right? :))

[@jennassexdungeon]

Literally fced a song and i got less potential than a clear with 4 lost notes 💀

[@slvyc]

Very informative! Thx

[@lIlIllIIlllII]

Me playing arcaea casually has everything in present and past all fc and working on future not knowing wtf yall talking about (i play for the songs)

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

that's good for you i guess, you can always enjoy the game minus the potential aspect

[@cirno-_-baka2095]

Its like i called in emergency, and operator start explain potential in arcaea. Micro so bad, but video so good. Thx

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

lmaoooo that's a funny way to describe it thanks for the feedback though, audio is definitely one of the things i need to improve on.

[@payunghitam2807]

hmm yes me bing chilling with my 7.69 potential, just have fun bro, it was a torture at first as a f2p since there is like 6 ftr songs lol, but i accepted that fate, played slowly then now i can do some ftr 8 this is a bit out of context but if you are f2p, DONT BUY ANY PACKS IF U CANT PLAY FTR 8 CONSISTENTLY, i capped this since every single packs ranges from ftr 8 - 11, your money aint worth it if you cant even have fun with them

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

You can still play the packs for the PST and PRS charts though, just touch the FTRs when you're ready. But if that works for you then yeah I don't see a problem with that decision

[@sophialyudova7647]

Очень хорошо всё объяснила, спасибо за видео🙏

[@thedirp21]

Still not forgiving arcaea for taking my ptt away on my bagleseeker clear

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

wtf this thing has 2k views??? woah thanks yall i guess. also i'm too lazy to give hearts at this point so just pretend that i did that

[@kevinl888_the_gamer]

Yay, I learned something new!!

[@Wtfeeeeeec]

I'm here again because got 10.99 and can't unlock the new FTR11 IN LASTING EDEN STORY*

[@ahmadfitrimuammar5630]

How to unlock Beyond in Arcaea?

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

The Beyond chapter is located at the very end of World Mode, beside Chapter 6. You need to hit Potential 9.00 and above to access it, then you can unlock a few maps there

[@ahmadfitrimuammar5630]

@@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel What about tempestissimo beyond?

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

Ah yeah that one.. this is quite complicated. You can follow the steps from here: arcaea.fandom.com/wiki/Tempestissimo To activate Beyond you need Fracture Hikari (from Fracture Ray anomaly in Luminous Sky) and the last 2 digits of your fragments the same (133, 4299, etc)

[@danielyuan9862]

You can also quit the game if your score is less than an EX. I have a habit of doing that 😅

[@andrian8535]

an update : abstruse dilemma

[@in-everything2330]

4:52 surrender to me mortals, i got 11 potential without having any packs HAHAHAHAHAAHHA im so fucking poor

[@danielyuan9862]

I also got to 11.00 ptt before playing any packs. It was my goal before I used the ptt pack hack.

[@4sety]

How do you play with such low speed?????

[@robotpluto4717]

sup have i seen u before? Nice vid anyways

[@djphatb]

Thanks

[@LelouchViBritania0904]

i already have Bagleseeker and Saikyo stroke unlocked. if i would fall below ptt 11 again would the songs then be locked again?

[@remixtheidiot5771]

No Edit: no, as long as you already have them unlocked. If you get 11 but forget to spend the fragments to unlock Saikyo then yeah.

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

oh i missed this comment uhh yeah the guy above is right as far as i know, for saikyo. iirc for aegle it would be locked again, but after a bug got fixed idk if it's still the case. would need someone else to confirm tho

[@LelouchViBritania0904]

@@remixtheidiot5771 thanks

[@Amakasusaisei35]

Thanks Though I've lose 5 ptt even I've seen this haha

[@w0bblegum347]

Ayo what if i want to lose potential what do i do

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

uhh submit lower scores i guess? also yeah if you really want to effectively nuke your ptt to the very bottom (not 0 ptt tho), you'd have to clear your recent 30 by submitting 00,000,000 scores from 30 different charts

[@w0bblegum347]

Oooh thankyou very much that was really helpful

[@w0bblegum347]

@@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel do i have to submit charts i haven't played b4 or preexisting charts i've already scored on?

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

just make sure that it's 30 different charts, it doesn't matter if you already played them or not

[@Ahyhy3515]

Nice!

[@theblueberrypi6152]

Potential isn’t everything. You still have dan, rat and rks.

[@kutorinota4165]

Wanna moot bc why not?

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

i have no more slots sorry

[@kutorinota4165]

@@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel I will forever have 11 slots lol

[@HatredEmpress666]

You have to give some shit about potential because you won't be able to unlock a lot of things ingame depending on that

[@thedetermination4306]

Hum 72 is better 71

[@SyRose901]

DA

[@bagelbagelbagelbagelbagelbagel]

DA

[@Crem1027]

DA

[@Vanilla-nyan]

DA

[@SyRose901]

DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (idk I'm just being completely erratic in here as always)

[@1zanaman]

DA

[@spiiralwya]

no need to worry about bagelseeker ftr if you get a seizure from prs bagelseeker 😎

[@LocTran-sc7mm]

I got aegleseeker and realized that I need potential 11 🥲🥲🥲