The Ford Mustang GTD will Beat the Porsche GT2 RS and GT3 RS Around the Nurburgring

[@arcdriver1316]

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[@nuclearpenguin3046]

GTD has a lot going for it. Pretty advanced engine, loads of torque through the midrange, 50 50 weight distribution, lightweight, wide track, wide sticky rubber and the fastest stopping road car to date.

[@ItsJustBIaze]

plus it has a TON of the tech from the actual GT3 racecar.

[@bustjanzupan1074]

GtD = Diesel ?? 🙂

[@thijsgribnau3638]

@@bustjanzupan1074 Gt Daytona, altough it would be cool to see it roll coal on nurbs.

[@doc7000]

What is the weight of this car? this is the one thing that I wanted to know.

[@1000roentgens]

@@doc7000the same as the current GT3rs.

[@carfan3762]

Of course, you are right, one must never underestimate the competition, but this new Ford hasn’t yet been opposed to the forthcoming 992.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS. So, no conclusions till then, please 😎

[@mikaeltorres2746]

Also the BMW Gt3 Evo is looking really good too, very promising.

[@DaEVOthefreak]

and? its sensless... everybody can build a car with boost, more ci, more aero. If a car beat the Porsche (GT3RS) with same weapons. NA and 4L, than it deserve respect.

[@mathieuschafer1360]

@@DaEVOthefreak Even with this, it won't be the faster car

[@davidwhite2411]

Nor can it beat the Corvette GT3 or factory C8Z06

[@WDLC1911]

@@davidwhite2411 It will be significantly quicker than the Z06.

[@machdaddy6451]

I'm guessing that the driver is very important part of getting the best Nurburgring times. I wonder who Ford will choose to drive for the record?

[@RonnieLeeDuck]

It is my understanding it is Dirk Muller

[@machdaddy6451]

@@RonnieLeeDuck I wonder how he prepares before he goes to Nurburgring?

[@117Chief930]

@@machdaddy6451 He takes a nap and a big dump.

[@Fodder916]

​@@117Chief930weight reduction

[@tryharderpls]

I think at that level of drivers getting paid to test cars that all of their skills are close enough that allow the car they are driving make the differences

[@ceverett68]

i don't know. it's really a win win as the more manufacturers there are in racing the better it is for us as fans, regardless of who you cheer for

[@The-Lincoln-Lawyer-5.0]

The GTD Mustang is going to be so much faster in the straights than a Porsche.

[@user-wz4ei2iu6w]

Full-blown race Mustang against a stock 7 year old GT2 RS? The Mustang might muster. Apples to oranges. New vs old. Annoying click bait.

[@kashmir883]

also the mustang and gt2 rs are both street legal

[@elliotcosmas]

@@kashmir883 Mustang chasing a 7 year old car being the point here...

[@alexprost7505]

yanki disgrace themselves

[@alvinbanks]

@@elliotcosmas Where is the Camaro, oh it's trying to come back to life after being killed for the third time. US should send Ukraine the tank called the Dodge Challenger.

[@CaseyCollier]

@@elliotcosmas ...and? What exactly is the point of calling the 991.2 GT2 RS a "7 year old car" besides trying to downplay its capabilities in a comparison? If your goal is to attempt to make the possible result of the GTD beating the lap time of a GT2 RS seem less impressive, then I think you're going to fail spectacularly. The GT2 RS is still one of the fastest road-legal cars to have lapped the Nürburgring, so even suggesting that the GTD beating its lap time isn't impressive is a silly thing to say. Who gives a crap if the car they're benchmarking is seven years old? It makes no difference to me because the GT2 RS is an incredibly fast car and will be difficult to beat.

[@bluesky6361]

I'll take either Porsche, please.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

The Shelby GT350 is one of my favorite cars of all time made by Ford. There's a few, I have always been a Porsche Fan too but I'm not rich so the Idea of spending House Money on a car is something I can't afford to do... But I am a huge fan of the 911's over the years.. When I was a kid out of all my match box cars the porsche was always my fav.. But now I am older and in the real world so I went with a 2017 Manual Mustang GT Performance Pack and I love it.. The Coyote variants are simple nasty motor's all of them, from Gen 1's, to Boss, to Gen 2's 3's and the GT350 Voodoo and GT500 Predator they are all bad ass motors'.. I went with the Gen 2 because I found one with 8,909 miles on it and I knew I would never find another with miles that low on it ever again!! I just bought my 2017 9 months ago and it's been great.. It's not a crowd killer like people say.. IDK if that just the auto's that crash into crowds or not, But all I know is my car handles great and the fact that it is a manual gives me even more control over the car. So yeah so far so good... But honestly I would never spend that much money on a Mustang GTD.. I am sure it's going to be a Bad ass car but save your money and just get the new Shelby. They are coming in automatic and in manuals this time and there's not going to be any displacement differences on the new shelby's either.. They are going to be Gen 4 Coyote's with Gen 6 Whipples on them making well over 800 HP.. They are saying that the new 2025 Shelby's will have a solid 800 to the wheel's, But if you are really smart you can just Order a 24 Base Model 10 speed and get a Whipple installed on it from Ford for an extra 10K...

[@TheCzechmate007]

Same here, always loved Porsche's. I even despised Mustangs, because I thought they were for douchebags who only can drive fast in a straight line. And then I bought 2021 GT. I was so happy with the car's capabilities, that I also purchased 2020 GT350. And all I can say is: holly shit, that car is fantastic! 🙂

[@MrAllDay2u]

FORDS public mission statement about the GTD was "that their goal was to beat both the AMG GT Black Series and the 911 GT3 RS around that track." Which says low 6:40s 💪

[@confuse3671]

There are lots of cars in the 7ish range 7:10 - 7:30 that are impressive cars.... 6:40 is other worldly.

[@robinaugustomercadoleon9308]

remember when the black series did the lap the track hasn’t on the best optimal condition and the horsepower difference between the mustang and the gt3rs is huge

[@MonicaHolly143]

Blaxk series and the gt3 rs not even close together i dont know why they even mentioned the gt3 when theres a lot more cars there

[@79dent]

6.40.480 is the time the GTD put down.

[@MrAllDay2u]

@@79dent Where was that official time posted?

[@bodvarson1933]

It needs to be mentioned that the Mustang and Porsche used to be competitors on the race track in the trans am series. They are actually former rivals. The late 60s saw American auto makers making a push for track racing. Ford should have kept that but the 70s happened to the auto industry and economy and budget became too important for automakers. When Ford decides to full send something they make it happen every time.

[@TheCzechmate007]

As a proud owner and driver of the 2020 GT 350, I thank you for acknowledging this iconic car and its track capabilities.

[@chilliwilli4971]

You would think the front-engined cars would struggle more. But mid-mounted front engined ones are competitive with suspension and aero mods. Witness the AMG GT3, and now the Multimatic Ford Mustang GT3 in the fold. The V8's put out lots of power, even with BOP enforced. When Porsche releases their new hybrid GT2RS, and perhaps EVO updates the GT3R, they will be back in hunt at the ring. Hard to overcome the HP advantage in current flat six configurations; keeping in mind how well Manthey and AO are doing this season in spite of power disadvantage.

[@sillynut2958]

Mid engine cars are superior race cars, period.

[@salimrandall]

@@sillynut2958 They put the trans in the middle.

[@Turbo329]

@@sillynut2958 That's ridiculous. Plenty of race wins over decades that refute that theory.

[@Turbo329]

Power-to-Weight > Engine Configuration

[@Tattletale-Delta]

@@sillynut2958 Sure, 30 years ago. Technology has advanced enough to make the improvement of a mid engine layout more preference over objective advantage.

[@toddwelborn3914]

Thanks for the revue. The Mustang GTD is a Technological Masterpiece & will go down in history as the Bad Ass of all Mustangs. I am so Stoked to have my application in for the car . Fingers crossed !

[@victormaholik594]

First On Race Day.. when they set a goal to beat a specific manufacturer… they do it every single time..

[@xtnuser5338]

LOL no they don't. They do it sometimes, and so do other brands. I'm sure they wanted to beat the Manthey Porsche at Lemans this year, but they didn't. Whomever is on top today, somebody else will be on top tomorrow. When you're the winner, you become the target of everybody else until you're no longer the winner. That's just how it works.

[@WindyCity1992]

​@@xtnuser5338 Mercedes has the Ring record. Porsche just has the fanboys so Ford used the name for marketing. The GTDs are already sold out lol

[@xtnuser5338]

@@WindyCity1992 Yeah that's all correct. But what point are you making?

[@HaHaThatIsFunny]

​@@WindyCity1992FYI Mercedes got bumped a couple weeks ago

[@justincharles6585]

​@@HaHaThatIsFunnyby who ?

[@riityee]

If someone offered me a mustang versus a Porsche, I’ll take the Porsche any day.

[@AllDayErrDay.]

For most situations, yes. But if it was a GTD, I'm taking the Mustang.

[@JaccZc]

I could only dream to have a Mustang GTD , a classic Shelby, and original Shelby Cobra, a Ford GT original or new. My choices no matter what other cars exist. IF I had the money I wouldn't even close to that nk buying the Porsche!

[@TheCzechmate007]

Not only is no one offering you a GTD, but even if you wanted it, you would probably not be able to get it.

[@AllDayErrDay.]

@@TheCzechmate007 Hey, there is no need for insults. He's just stating his preference, and honestly, you don't know what he is capable of obtaining.

[@TheCzechmate007]

@@AllDayErrDay. I think you should reflect carefully before accusing someone of being insulting. If you had any understanding of the process involved in ordering the GTD, you'd realize the context of what I said. I won’t hold my breath for an apology from someone so quick to judge without understanding.

[@mchristr]

Imagine the aero and tires loads on the GTD. I'm hoping the suspension pieces were designed with plenty of strength.

[@BrandonAnderson-jv4wi]

Where is your source stating the GTD is 3200lbs? That’s absolutely insane considering the GT500 was a tad over 4000lbs. Wow

[@Jimmyxsx]

Yeah GTD will be around 3600lbs at best and im being generous.

[@hpkntnw]

It’s a race car built by multimatic it’s not a production line mustang at all. It’s a carbon fiber street legal race car. If they get that car to 3200 lbs with 850 hp it will beat the GT2 RS.

[@frederickcook87]

@@hpkntnwthat’s a BIG “if”

[@jemery3]

The gtd won’t be anywhere near 3200lbs 😂😂😂 it’s going to be close to 4000 lol it is rumored to have closer to 900hp though. I did submitte an application though 🤞

[@BrandonAnderson-jv4wi]

That’s what I’m thinking too…

[@arkhsm]

I think GTD's secret weapon is 325mm of front tyre width !!

[@swellhunter8605]

Yes and no. There's setup considerations associated with it. More grip under braking, more grip cornering, etc... now the suspension has to be dialed so the car doesn't squat too much under braking but this now affects cornering. Not that Multimatic and Ford won't dial in but I don't think a lot of people just think section width equals speed. A Radical SR 10 runs 200s up front for example.

[@117Chief930]

@@swellhunter8605 That car weighs 1,600 pounds dude. Of course it can run 200s up front. It's about heat tolerance and distribution, contact patch, and a million other things too. But weight most of all.

[@swellhunter8605]

@@117Chief930 yes and no. The question is if section width and grip is the “cheat code” then why doesn’t a 1600# SR10 run say 255s up front? My point is there can never be an assumption that section width equals faster around a circuit. There’s a massive rotating weight issue at hand. My last race car we went all the way up to 305s up front and you know what? The fastest setup on that car was 275s. This was because of camber caster and how we used the effective contact patch. We could run 295s or 305s but we struggled to get perfectly even temps on the pyrometer. That car was 3622# race weight. Now I have a 2360# race weight car and we run 245s. So 100% agree with you about weight but I still say most people just arbitrarily think section width equals more speed on a circuit and that’s just not true. Quite frankly I’m surprised Ford is running that much tire. The Dark Horse is insanely good out of the box and has the best braking of any production car you can buy, it’s a pig and doesn’t have 50/50 weight and it’s on 275 summer tires. You tell me.

[@EIGHTLUG]

I ran 325 SUPERCAR 3R on my GT350 on all four corners. Tremendous mechanical grip!

[@swellhunter8605]

@@EIGHTLUG Was it faster? If so was it because it allowed you to overcome a mental hurdle because you perceived you could do more because now you had the "mechanical grip". Turning slows down the car so if you did nothing different your minimum apexes would go down with more resistance on the track. This cannot be explained to track day guys. Only racers that have raced a long time know it. I once watched my buddy go down a tire size an win a national championship against everyone else running bigger. It was that significant in straight line speed that he would be able to stick his nose in front of anyone after a decent straight.

[@JebusFinklestein]

Sounds big and heavy, not sure it would measure up to 992 GT3 RS with full MR touch. Will be interesting to see what it can put down.

[@r.rblacksteyn9485]

No chance Porsche will destroy them with the 992 GT2 RS

[@JebusFinklestein]

@@r.rblacksteyn9485Did you read what I posted? I said absolutely squat about the GT2 RS.

[@EBG...]

3200-3600 lbs

[@jerrywyant5409]

It's 26lbs heavier than the Porsche....

[@firefightszz]

What separates the Porsches from a lot of other cars at the ring is the rear engine layout. They can carry so much more momentum through most of the track than front engine cars. It’s very clear at the 24. The Porsches come alive in mixed conditions on the downhill portions of the track. Your car has to be faster and lighter if you want it to beat the 2RS. Simple as that. Anything else won’t do it.

[@nickkostakis9600]

Great show and very informative I love that Mustang fantastic look thank you very much for a wonderful video THANK YOU from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

[@AtropalArbaal-dk8jv]

In the 1960s, Ford won every series they entered. GTO, GTU, NASCAR, Trans Am, all of them.

[@christopherchow]

surprised they produced the GTD so light and that front suspension by Multimatic isn't a joke. And neither is the cantelever rear suspension.

[@jerrywyant5409]

Entire suspension.....

[@ramonamron5194]

It did not beat Porsche at Lemans this year. Porsche owns lemans!

[@davidwhite2411]

Really? Who won the 24 hours of LeMans in 2023? Corvette 🤡

[@highqualityorangejuice420]

​@@davidwhite2411so what about the 2 decade before that lmao

[@slimslimee4411]

Didnt team ford finish P3 for its first year with the 2024 mustang GT3?????

[@blackberrythorns]

@@slimslimee4411 3rd and 4th in the mustang gt3.

[@Loulovesspeed]

@@davidwhite2411 In its class only, not overall!

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

Out of all the American Car Companies Ford has the best engineers for sure.. But I do have to admit Ford has a way of cheaping out on important things though too so always do your homework before buying any car no matter who it's made by.. But if I had to grade the different companies I would say Ford has A list, GM has B list engineers and Dodge has D list engineers for sure.. Yeah that Hemi is pretty nice but it's old as hell and Dodge has a way of throwing Displacement at everything to make power.. It's always been amazing to me what Ford has been able to do with that little 302 and the 289 before that. Just amazing..

[@thomast5670]

Where did you get the Mustang GTD weight figure from?

[@BrandonAnderson-jv4wi]

Just did some digging, the number isn’t for the GTD, it’s the GT3 race cars weight.

[@bukweat]

I was wondering the same thing. There's an interview here on YT with one of the engineers. They said the car weighs about as much as a gt500 at the time, and they were trying to drop another 160lb by production.

[@DominicRuiz23]

carbon edition

[@jerrycordova1971]

It's a full carbon fiber body, isn't it?

[@got_gt3612]

@@BrandonAnderson-jv4wiyou forgot interior, passenger seat , airbags and other crap needed to be road legal . Cool story 😂

[@drattler1946]

There is a BIG difference between a GT-2RS and a Cayman GT-4 RS

[@Tattletale-Delta]

And a BIG difference between a Shelby GT350 and a Mustang GTD.

[@arizonacolour8793]

and what is that difference? i honestly don't know

[@WindyCity1992]

A 2020 GT500 on cup2s ran identical Times to a 991.2 GT3RS with Randy Pobst driving.

[@BastianKH]

Wasn't even a GT4 RS. Normal old GT4 with 385 or 420 hp, depending on model year.

[@quentinfreeman7516]

​@@BastianKHThe GT4 RS is like 5 years newer than the GT350 R lol. In that time they completely shit on even their own GT4.

[@jimmymccormick142]

Mustang getting it done Ford power forever baby the best never rest they just keep getting better

[@peterschancel7223]

The CEO of Ford is a Bronze Race Driver and races in GT4,,Mustang Darkhorse Challenge and other series.. when he can That says it all,,

[@carlospacheco8640]

They built this car to take on a 6 year old Porsche. One word says it all. SAD.

[@peterschancel7223]

@@carlospacheco8640 The GT 2 has not changed/innovated in 6 year has it.. we both know the answer.The reference car is the road version Manthey GT2 spec even more power than the GT3

[@GregoryAlcorn-o3g]

You sound desperate

[@JLswatchthis]

Goddamn man chill it's Ford😅😅

[@dsmith2601]

1) I think you may be reaching for it to beat the GT3RS or the old GT2RS; 2) a 992 GT2RS will be insane … still an impressive vehicle

[@GreggJenkinson]

Forget Porsche as competition. I'm more curious how the GTD will do against the 1064 HP 2026 Corvette ZR1.

[@petrolo72]

💯 the proper comparison would be the 992.2 GT2 RS club sport that should be coming out in two years or less against the GTD Mustang. Both purpose built cars. 🍎➡️🍏

[@gurneyforpresident2836]

Ford Motor was started by winning a race in 1901. Performance and Racing is in the Ford DNA. Let's not forget two of those overall Lemans victories for Ford in the 1960's the main competitor was Porsche. I am a multiple Ford GT owner/driver, among some others and an aspiring Ford Racing historian. Just enjoy the hobby to its fullest whichever margue you like or drive. Interesting Fact: When JWA and Gulf Oil went Porsche in 1970 the 917s were suffering valve train geometry issues. Ford Engine and Foundry offered access to the Ford computers to John Wyer and the Gulf Porsche team to help resolve their issues they were having at the very high RPMs the Type 912 flat 12s ran. Porsche (Germany) pride would not take up the offer from Ford haha. Here's to the GTD (Gran Turismo Daytona) hope it sets a new Nurburgring record.

[@WDLC1911]

@@gurneyforpresident2836 I’m an ex-Ford Motor Company R&D engineer. Thanks for the post. I was not aware of the Valvetrain engineering offered JWA and Gulf Oil Porsches. Thank you for that piece of history!! 🙏🏽

[@gurneyforpresident2836]

@@WDLC1911 I bet you have some interesting stories and info yourself. You're welcome 🙂

[@WDLC1911]

@@gurneyforpresident2836, Powertrain Noise, Vibration & Harshness R&D Engineer. I miss those days. Came home due to aging parents. I don’t regret coming home in the least but I miss the work which was more like fun & playing to me. Fun people, fun job, fun times…

[@vivalasvegas702]

There’s NOWAY in hell, Ford can beat the GT2-RS with ballpark the same HP.

[@saleen367]

I'm a Mustang guy that also loves Porsche track cars. I track with a club that invites all makes to our HPDE days and you'd be surprised at how many Mustangs surprise the Porsche drivers on track. Not that they are an engineering marvel, but they perform quite well considering what they cost. The GTD is on another playing field all together and I'd be disappointed if it wasn't an outstanding performer based on cost alone. I personally don't think, given the powerplant and chassis that they will get there. Kudos for trying though.

[@shaunybonny688]

GTD is a race car modified to be street legal? whats the % commonality between the chassis of the GTD race car and the Mustang GT?

[@nathansummerville3972]

Damn that Mustang sounds awesome! If nothing else it wins the best exhaust note competition!

[@robertvanderlinden2813]

As Jeremy Clarcson would put it, POWER!

[@Mark-nu3ej]

I'd take the GTD over the GT2 RS for its uniqueness and its value in the future. It should appreciate similarly to the Ford GT.

[@bukweat]

Ford said they're aiming for the GT3 RS Nurb lap record, not the GT2.

[@elawn-kg7de]

ye

[@jemery3]

They also said the amg black series which is just about as fast as the gt2rs mr

[@Indyfinnswim]

agree, it is the 992 GT3RS, not the GT2RS they are targetting

[@Kyle-ts5th]

Yep because a 500 vs 800+ hp comparison makes sense lol.

[@bukweat]

@Kyle-ts5th in this context, it certainly does.

[@cantdriveslo]

That is a huge feat of accomplishment considering an older gt2rs is near perfect even by today's standards. Other than maybe updating the interior or the lights, what else is really needed?

[@77ANTONI0077]

Many people think that winning is temporarily occupying the position of the Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series that will be released in 2025, although to be delusional you are sure that we will never win there, there you go in first place.

[@TinyBearTim]

Isn’t Porsche literally testing a new 911 rn

[@erraldstyler]

well, the 911 just got updated so theres a new GT3/RS to come.

[@WHY269]

Remember when getting under 8 minutes was a MAJOR accomplishment? Remember that…

[@JoshuaHults]

With the right driver it should be faster if they tune it correctly for the ring.

[@kornonacob]

I have a gt3rs 992,gt2rs 991and a mustang gtd on order...i will let u know once the mustang arrives n time trial it on the nurburgring

[@byates59]

The Ford GTD is a beast and a great looking car! Thanks!

[@sdlausen1]

The thing is........ by the time the GTD is released, a year later Porsche will have it beat. Ford will stop production of the GTD and continual development.

[@auletjohnast03638]

🔵HOW CAN IT BEAT THE PORSCHE WHEN AT THE 24 HRS OF LEMANS IT FINISHED TIE FOR 3RD PLACE WITH THE MUSTANG GTR BEHIND THE WINNER, THE FERRARI.🔴

[@horacehhelmsley9375]

Can you please post the 2024 World Endurance Standing in the GT3 class?

[@Edison73100]

Are you talking about the last GT2RS or the upcoming GT2RS? Even so, if it is the last GT2RS I doubt the GTD would be faster than the Manthey GTR2RS.

[@Streisnd94]

Hearing that laptimes I remember the Pagani Zonda R, which roughly 10 years ago was a record holder for hypercars and now it's slower than an AMG.

[@sportbikejesus]

The question is very rarely “what brand can beat a particular car?” It’s almost always “how much money does a manufacturer need to spend to beat it?” The GTD will probably win but it’s going to take $300k to do it

[@stevefowler2112]

lol...a GT350 R beat the GT4??? The GT4 is a baby Porsche, whereas the GT350 R was the apex Mustang track car. I grew up with Fords and Mustangs and have owned some of the most sought after V8 Mustangs going back to the 60's and culminating with my 2000 Mustang Cobra R model but moved on to the 911 (turbos) and then to my current 2018 GT2 RS (with MR mods). The GTD is phenomenal and I tip my hat to Ford for spending the money to go there, but get back to me when it beats the current prod lap record holder at most American tracks, the 2018 GT2 RS, along with its Nürburgring time of 6:43.

[@_ph4nt0mzz_47]

Cool asf my man 😎

[@yo18momas]

Calm down bud, it’s a Ford. Isn’t exactly the pinnacle of Motorsport. The fact a Mustang even did that is a miracle in itself

[@WindyCity1992]

The GT2RS never held more than 4 track records. The ACR held 16 total , SCCA and Guiness Certified. GT2RS isnt what u think

[@WindyCity1992]

Also the 2020 GT500 is the Top track mustang. It ran a 1:33 at Laguna Seca while Matching the 991.1 GT3RS At chuckwalla Raceway

[@maximborodyuk3773]

gt350 is cranked out big steel midsize car. gt4 is cranked out small mid-engine coupe with pdk and 2x the price of base model.

[@JulianZwemer]

As a Porsche guy myself, I hope that the Mustang GTD will just be a second behind the 991.2 GT2 RS. Then, Porsche comes with the 992 GT2 RS and says: "Ok, then we will beat the seven year old GT2 RS ourselves." That would be awesome!!

[@AC-wl7ve]

the 992 will mop the floor with this thing lol. ford is targeting the 991 which came out like 8 years ago

[@AC-wl7ve]

@stevecruise6353 that’s right. Even the mops at Porsche would put this pig down.

[@Deepimpactocean]

Would like to see that gtd make multiple laps around the ring like the gt2rs could but no so confident it could.

[@dinksterling]

looking and watching isnt a recorded time

[@JuniorHenderson-i6q]

Big deal. If it comes close to the new Zr-1 then that'll be impressive, but we all know that's IMPOSSIBLE.

[@79dent]

It already did. It's far faster, lighter, and quicker. 6.40.480 on the nurburgring. A Zr-1 pales to the GTD.

[@GreggJenkinson]

​Can you quote the source for your claim? ​@@79dent

[@JuniorHenderson-i6q]

@@79dent Ok. So, it's much faster than the DRASTICALLY more powerful, higher reving, lighter, smaller, lower, mid engined, more aerodynamic, active aero equipped, 2025 Corvette ZR-1? Yeah, Right.🤨

[@carpentierjohn7]

a lot of hurt feelings here

[@timmietz]

3RS MAYBE. New 992 2RS? No way in (GREEN) HELL!

[@drsolar]

That sound. I would buy it just for the sound

[@floopygoober]

As a Porsche die hard I believe this may be true. What I’d want to see is the same driver in all 3 cars on the same track. There’s so many excuses it’ll never be a true match but I think this mustang has balls for sure

[@westpalmdoc]

the sound alone is worth 325k. that back though cosmetically needs help, exhaust looks like it was yanked off your mom’s 2007 SUV.

[@nickviet9274]

You’re tripping, it’s not an exotic

[@PC-xj2mw]

Forget the 992 GT3 RS (definitely can't compare 7 yr old 991 GT2 RS). GTD has a bigger problem. Called Corvette ZR1.. GTD needs to beat the ZR1 first before trying to play with big boys. 😂

[@GreggJenkinson]

The ZR1 has a couple hundred HP advantage over the GTD.

[@PC-xj2mw]

@@GreggJenkinson therefore, ZR1 is much better car, both for performance and price.

[@zgblundell]

I thought the Honda Civic Type R with a lap record of 7 minutes 39 seconds on Nurburgring ring was impressive

[@umaxi96]

I want to see that thing in GT Long Distance Competition against Porsche, BMW and Mercedes

[@markim5087]

I can’t believe no one just timed it at the track and released it..I would have..

[@tsaralexanderii5043]

So much to add: First of all, there was never any discussion about the GT350 vs the Cayman GT4 because there never was any competition between the top Mustang and the entry-level Porsche. Compare the GT350 to a 991 GT3 (a more apt comparison) and it is 20 Seconds slower. Secondly the 991.2 Gt2RS‘s best lap at the Ring is 6:40 not 6:47. With the later released Manthey racing kit (available at Porsche) they improved the lap time. Lastly, Ford is aiming to beat an old car. From what I have heard from Porsche, they are aiming to beat the AMG One‘s 6:35, maybe even cracking 6:30. Once the 992 GT2RS is released this whole thing is over…

[@mikehlee69]

Shocking its so light. Does it have AC?

[@vicval7895]

Ok, that's not of a fair fight, the Ford has 825hp & the Porsche has 691hp, that's 134 more hp.

[@carlospacheco8640]

Let's add the fact that this is a street version of the GT3 race car. The GT2RS is not the street version of a GT3 race car.

[@mathieuschafer1360]

Even with that Porsches will walk that stang

[@TheUsz28]

​@@mathieuschafer1360 doubt it

[@danielreynolds6498]

I like the look of the GTD

[@davidleca01]

Totally Badass machine 🇺🇸 💪 👀 🙌 👌, im a proud Ford owner 💯‼️

[@GunfightersINC]

I'm a GT3RS owner and tracker.. I also own 12 mustangs, 2 of which are 350Rs.. one heavily track prepped and I run The Ridge Motorsport park 4 seconds faster than what you listed (1:52)... I'm in the pipeline for a GTD.. I'm seriously considering passing on it once I heard Larry Holt, CEO of Multimatic, say it was going to weigh as much as the GT500, "not a light car" is exactly what he said, GT500 is 4200 pounds.. the 991 GT2RS is 3240.. so the GT2RS is almost 1000 pounds lighter than the GTD.. so I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. We'll see when it's released but from Larry's own mouth the GTD looks to be heavy as hell.

[@2801race]

The true test is one of these Mustang on a trackday with GT3s, will it take the punishment? Will it overheat?

[@79dent]

50 laps no mechanical failures. 6.40.480 on lap 33.

[@quentinfreeman7516]

I seriously doubt it will be that light. Ford hasn't released weight numbers and that 3268 number just so happens to match exactly with The Drive's article on the same topic talking about the weight of the GT3 RS, which is surprising considering the GT2 RS is a forced induction car yet weighs 27 lbs less than the GT3 RS. They already said the GTD would be close in weight to the GT500 which makes sense because they share a chassis and there's going to need to be a lot of cooling components for the GTD like the GT500.

[@notdreadyet33]

C8 ZR1 enters the chat

[@judahrex]

If Ford wants to impress me, beat the RSR Porsche

[@dave_R_GR]

Rumors say, the hardly get the 7 Minute mark. Not easy to find additional 16.7 seconds.

[@David-ce7hg]

What are your thoughts on the new porshe gt2 RS against the ford

[@umaxi96]

991 GT2 RS MR has an official laptime of 06:43min. Good luck Mustang. Especially with the upcoming 992 GT2 RS 😂

[@turnerables]

Came here to defend Porsche but honestly the suspension on the GTD is very impressive

[@bertdodd5743]

If the Mustang GTD pulls this off. Ford will have proved that the GTD is less than 6 years behind the Porsche GT 2

[@FastRace-tz6wt]

Plus, this is clip bait and you all fell for it……again! 😅

[@MuhammadNiz007]

It won't Saved you the time

[@drumbass2029]

Even if the mustang beats the record new 2rs is coming for blood

[@mathieuschafer1360]

This would struggle being sub 7 lmao

[@HurrJimus]

I don’t think gt350r is comparable to gt4 i would underatand the comparison if it was gt350 to gt4 or gt350r to gt4 rs

[@rushers24]

I love the GTD and I do think it will get a sub 7 min time, but I would be pretty surprised to see it beat the GT3RS. It has no shot at getting the overall record from the AMG One.

[@EBG...]

It already got sub 7 min in its first test run. Ford is trying to get their best run.

[@rushers24]

@@EBG... source?

[@ferrous3262]

@@rushers24 they said its sub 7 min on their website

[@blackberrythorns]

@@rushers24 the gtd is engineered and built by mutimatic, they work on the amg one as well and aren't pretending it will be that fast. somewhere around the amg black is what they're shooting for.

[@79dent]

6.40.480 unofficial

[@brianwellman8462]

Will it be faster than the 911 GT2rsmr ?

[@PC-xj2mw]

What happened to GTD Nürburgring times? Why don't Ford release the numbers yet? If you are going to advertise, then advertise the times as well.

[@qc_uploads748]

Ford : Someone cooked here

[@tonyburns5388]

If it can make it around the track then they should win but it will probably break halfway around the track

[@EBG...]

It finished 3rd in le mans with no issues. Ford isn't having any problems. They never have had any problems with their performance vehicles.

[@XxApo70xX]

You comparing it to the 7 year old car from previous generation? Well ofc you can do it but its not a healthy comparison

[@Tattletale-Delta]

That 7 year old car is still faster than most of the competition's cars built even this year. You're just trying to cope with a Mustang beating a GT2 RS.

[@XxApo70xX]

@@Tattletale-Delta What kind of logic is this mate and you call me coping with this???🤣 Its not a suprise if the new Mustang beats the 7 years old Gt2rs because its pretty normal since its "a gen younger". Ita not about Gt2rs being faster than even todays cars or i am coping because the gtd will beat the Gt2rs its about "Gen diff". If you want to make a "equal comparison" you gotta compare the same generations. Its much healthier to compare Mustang to the upcoming new Gt2rs since they are on the same gen. Got it?

[@Tattletale-Delta]

You're bringing that up just so you can use it as an excuse that your favorite car lost to a Mustang lol.

[@XxApo70xX]

@@Tattletale-Delta Whatever makes u feel better dude😃👍

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

the Sheby GT350 and GTD are totally different chassis as you noted. the GTD is a different beast. about the only thing in common is that it's a Mustang based car. To be fair GT2 RS is the underdog so to speak. we as fans know it's a knife to a gun fight really.

[@mrmorizofan7001]

991.2? Ford is late from the party.

[@GregoryAlcorn-o3g]

Please stop kidding yourselves, it ain't going to happen, nice little pipedream though

[@nafsucof]

you definitely got the weight of the gt3 rs for the gtd. it’s gonna be closer to 3750lbs.

[@Finnjaymakes]

Wait till the Manthey comes out 😂 I’m not gonna say the whole name since it’s, kinda a mouthful lol.

[@iancharawe103]

Welll Porsche have secretly been testing a replacement of the current gt2rs and I hear might be making more than 850hp without the help of octane fuel

[@MrMgh76]

For 325k I would freaking hope so

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

WAIT = until you see the new retro style fairlane thunder car ? now that is a STREET CAR !