Archetype: Plini Live | Rig Setup and Demo

[@morganyabeny6248]

That's a beautiful bass. Love the color and finish

[@dredd7]

Great to see this. Recently bought myself the Abasi plugin.. YAY. So would be great if you guys have like a chart to go thru for setting up a live rig or a simple home recording setup. Sorry for being a noob on this. Never tried any digital amp sims much since the Amplitube ages. ago. \m/

[@TiemMusic]

Once again this is really useful, thanks a ton!

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Glad you liked it! Any time!

[@PierreBruynooghe]

With Archetype, we can save MIDI mapping and presets, but how to save an entire gig configuration, with sound effects, controllable with a MIDI pedalboard like Revalver 4 allows ?

[@samreid3945]

How would you go about switching between different tones while using the Archetype in a live scenario? Is there a way to make your presets footswitchable?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

There'll be an update soon to bring MIDI support to the plugins. That way you'll be able to use something like the MIDI commander to program the controls to. I seriously can't wait for that to happen. Haha!

[@Jasonrich222]

Steven Ward That is amazing... serious such a good product and service

[@adamdargan]

@@TheRealStevenWard Any word on when MIDI will be implemented?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

@@adamdargan I know they're getting pretty close. I'm not sure on the window of time but it wont be too much longer of a wait.

[@goodwinedesign3766]

If you run your live performance off a click/session, you can automate effects and whatever else, would be no need for a footswitch then.

[@KotaCraig]

I love these videos. Please keep making em!

[@kelvinpell4571]

Question: How would you set this up so that the signal goes to a digital mixer (e.g. Behringer XR18) and not to a head and amp ? I'd like to use a Behringer FCB1010 as the controller

[@simpsonwykewane]

No one ever answers anything on these videos......

[@Naxzgul]

I guess you just go straight from the line output of your interface to the mixer, and using the cab sim of the neural dsp plugin. I don't know if your levels will be correct this way though, you might want to include a DI box before the mixer.

[@ekapastrawan4946]

From AI directly to mixer or u can use power amp before go to mixer, i do that in live

[@sean_tristan31]

wait im noob to this. what's the head? i tried this set up live except my signal chain went like this: guitar > audio interface > laptop (plugin) > balance out of audio interface > mixer it works but yeah its not 1:1 representation of the tone i set up

[@bearlooter]

Is there a way that I could load other DSP in the existing Gojira dsp? I have them installed, but I can’t launch them individually only one seems to work is the Gojira

[@heyimdalton1]

Isn’t the FX return of the amp head looking for an instrument level signal, not line level like the interface sends out?

[@CopperKelly]

Yea, you would want to use a reamp box

[@reiniervanzwieten7092]

As long as it sound gud

[@Francisco17Berrios]

It depends, some pro guitarrist use rack stuff, like dimebag, and those racks send line level signal. Just dont send a very high signal level, use your ears to select the best noise to signal ratio.

[@bmuggy]

So essentially i can use my computer, interface and a powered frfr speaker? Like the Headrush speakers?🤔

[@homejib]

Really cool video. What about hooking up to a PA system at a venue and even using a small PA or speaker at home (without a head/cab)?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Thanks! In that case, don't turn off the cab emulation in the plugin and you'll be good to go. 😁

[@homejib]

@@TheRealStevenWard So go out from the interface right into a PA or mixer, or is anything else needed?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

@@homejib depends on if it's a powered PA or not. The reason I need to send the signal to the head first, and then the cab, is because I need the heads power amp section to boost the signal to a suitable level. If the PA you're using is a powered PA, then it should boost the signal just fine.

[@homejib]

@@TheRealStevenWard ah ok thanks. sounds like i'd need a powered PA then.

[@MAF1234]

Do I still need to disengage the Impulse response system if I am plugging straight into a simple speaker or a house Speaker (in events) and not an amplifier? My problem is how come I still get some extra delay/reverb and not the exact tone as what's in the plugin when I plug straight to an Active Speaker or a PA system/house speaker? Does it have to do with the mixer's settings of the sound technician? Thanks

[@Known_as_seb]

So where does the speaker out go? You’ve got

[@mdrumt]

Running a bass head into guitar cabinet is safe to do?

[@Alexhangman]

Hi, what about 1959SLP with Fortin's Knuckle mod ampsim emulation?

[@Sitas]

what processor and how much ram would I need to run couple of instances with different sounds?

[@DinosaurioWachiturro]

Sorry for the late response, but I use 4 instances of the plugin (Each one with a different preset) with no problems. Ive used that reaper project in a couple notebooks with different amounts of processing power, in the worst case I had to roll the sampling quality to "normal" to avoid glitching but it sounds awesome anyway. Hope this gives you an answer and greetings from Argentina

[@Sitas]

@@DinosaurioWachiturro thank you!

[@georgekallah9990]

how to use plugins with boss gt 1000 or quad cortex i really like to combine tow sound but ther issues so please make video or reply to my comments and how to connect router plz my connection set up its i go out from boss gt 1000 core with to heavy amp to audio interface then run abasi plugin withe clean amp and ir cab but i think its knot correct setup so plz help me or do video about that

[@usta028]

does the standalone version of the plugin have a built in tuner (that also mutes), something like that and the ability to use midi for switching fx/amps would be great for live use, so we can do everything with just one plugin (tune, mute between songs etc)

[@StudioKoman]

Do we need to turn off cab in the cabinet section of the plugin?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Yep! I played around with using the cabinet section on for a few seconds but it makes the tone way too muddy to be usable.

[@StudioKoman]

@@TheRealStevenWard so we need to disable the cabinet section? True? Thanks for the advise ya 😊

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Yes, turn off the cabinet section and you're good to go! 😁

[@zachmanzano]

Great work Steve - Aloha!

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Thanks, Zach!

[@Jakub-dc5cx]

This is cool, but is there any way to easily engage/disengage the comp, drive and fx pedals while playing live? Somehow with a midi controller maybe?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

There's an update coming that'll bring MIDI support to the standalone plugins. That way you'll be able to use something like the MIDI Commander to program the controls how you want. If you're playing to backing tracks in a DAW, you can program the automation to make switches at different points in the song.

[@Jakub-dc5cx]

Alright! Thanks for the tip :)

[@FacundoTupac]

What about sending it straight to PA for audience and inears?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Hmm... There are probably a number of different ways you can do that. I'll have to do some experimentation on that and get back to you because I have some ideas but it's a matter of keeping the workflow and routing simple.

[@jobelewis6416]

Facundo Túpac Martínez Yeah I’ve seen a couple do this with various amp sims

[@lavpatel559]

So did anyone try directly to PA? How does it turn it? Does it have any problem?

[@diesunddas405]

Bought Archetype plini yesterday. But this isn't working in logic pro x. The plugin isn't listed under AU. What can I do? Gojira works fine. So this is definitely a ndsp bug

[@AaronAnderson323]

Nice grit and grind. Did you use Parallax for the bass lines?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Thanks! Yep, I used the Parallax for the bass since I didn't have a bass cab on hand to do the recording live. 😁

[@georgekallah9990]

hi i have digitech rp1000 how to connect this method to plugin because when recording the sound knot clear i input my guitar to the rp1000 then connect output amp to my audio interface withe fortin cali plugins but the sound it's distorted and fuzzy not clear plz help me

[@notweltraz279]

can i use a multifx pedal to replace head?

[@BigBrandoGAMES]

Is it possible to do this without an amp head and just a speaker?

[@AlexSpetz]

yep absolutely... straight to front of house or at home, into your monitors/headphones - some people like the cab onstage etc for presence but you have to bypass the IR cab in the plugin. This thing sounds so damn good straight out of a set of studio monitors or sent straight to FOH

[@vitorcarvalho5716]

Guys, i have a tascam 1x2hr interface, can i do this setup with that interface? And do u guys have any cabinet and head suggestions?

[@johncurtissanchez]

can we use a powered cab instead of a head?

[@chrisborelli1422]

That s how I do it. With a Yamaha DXR10. Chain is guitar -> Audio interface -> Yamaha powered speaker. Works wonder for me

[@dredd7]

what is the amp head ion the video?? It would be awesome if you guys can include details of the gears used

[@lyrasimo]

darkglass microtube 500

[@StaticTeaz]

How much latency are we dealing with? Also, how will adding any effects such as delay or reverb impact it? I realize the quality of one's computer and interface matter but there's gotta be a baseline. In other words, what is the minimum latency that can be achieved?

[@JonChacko]

Not sure if you got an answer to this, but I’m able to get about 3ms latency on a MacBook Pro running Archetype Nolly and using a presonus audio box. Hope this helps!

[@StaticTeaz]

@@JonChacko Thanks! I may be in the market for a new audio interface soon.

[@anon13x81]

I just have a amp not a head so would it still work?

[@Mad_Maxotron]

I have the scarlet solo 3rd gen. I only have a left and right output behind it, would connecting one of them to the return of my amp head work? I dont have my amp to try it.

[@tomlane8284]

Anyone know what Amp Head was used in this?

[@somedudekyle]

Great video!! What type of cable do you use from the interface to the fx return?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Thanks! I just used a balanced cable and that seemed to work pretty well. 🤘

[@dariocoral]

Would the line outputs of a Scarlett 2i4 2nd Gen work for this? It has two pairs of unbalanced RCA outputs and one pair of balanced TRS outputs.

[@AndreasCordesMusic]

I really love your plugins! I just bought the Archetype Cory Wong. it’s really great sounding. I was just wondering if you guys might come up with a classic style amp simulation like a Super Reverb, AC 30 kind of style?? These in combination with some vintage style , analog pedals ? I believe that those will sell big time!

[@mexicanphil08]

So you have to have a power amp with an FX Loop on it to make this work? im having troubles finding any, only found a small few so far.

[@redwogsounds]

You would go into the fron of a power amp. Effects loop advice ia if you have a head (pre and power amps) and us the loop to bypass the preamp.

[@juliangruber]

How do you deal with latency?

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Make sure that your buffer is set low enough that the latency isnt noticeable. I usually have mine set to around 128-256. Itll depend on your CPU where you can set your buffer to because the lower the number, the higher the CPU usage.

[@drewgunner14]

@@TheRealStevenWard this is very informative. thank you

[@jonborrmann3124]

Awesome video duder,, gee,, it's not like you're having fun or anything playin groovy sic ass tunes...😁👍🤘 I would bet you've never had a producer tell you "can you play with some emotion for gawds sake."!! Ha.... another great video from the almighty Steven at Neural DSP🤘

[@TheRealStevenWard]

Hahaha! Thanks, Jon! 🤘😁🤘

[@abner_anthony]

which head are you using?

[@lawlinyourface]

Would you run this through a external HDD or since its such small sized plugin to save the plugin on my Mac minis SSD?

[@NeuralDSP]

It's better to install locally :)

[@toddlewis]

What are the specs of your laptop, do you experience any lag between the sound of the guitar and the output on the amp? O seem to get like half a second. Any faster settings and it stutters

[@Kromhoff09]

What amp is best for this?

[@daflepail]

what is the brand of the power amp

[@marcpeiron_studio]

Darkglass Microtubes 900, I think.

[@naveamitay]

Finally! An answer to all of my life's problems!

[@TheRealStevenWard]

🤘🤘

[@nandexD1]

Thanka 4all

[@bmeijer7776]

I use a jdi and a uad apollo and ndsp plugins are still way toooo noisy 🤣 its actually unbearable even with the gate at -40

[@simpsonwykewane]

OH NO!!! Not long enough on the SET UP.....3 -4 seconds and WAYYYYY too soon and too much playing on the bass. Is this video about setting up the Archetype or bass technique??

[@kire123erik]

i only own tube amps 🥲

[@Fab_Rice]

It s just me, or this is more bulky and expensive than a real amp?

[@NoNo-sv2fo]

Was gonna say the same thing lol and more shit to haul around if you gig!

[@ptdakos]

Certainly not. The signal from the interface goes to just a solid state power amp, the only comparable heads in terms of size would be lunchbox-styled amps, which are one-trick ponies compared to this setup. I guess you could consider this a hassle because you'd need your laptop.

[@omarsharif927]

I'd just plug it into the PA system from the audio interface.

[@sensiblynumb]

trying to metal in an office chair.

[@lukather1]

As soon as the metal came on I was off 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪💩

[@jamesvai1]

What solid state amp is he using there looks like dark glass but what one will it run via guitar