Archetypes, The Hero Cycle and PTSD, with Prof. Erik Goodwyn, MD

[@JungToLiveBy]

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[@pzahariew]

The fact that the theory emerges out of clinical experience makes it so much more applicable and relatable than if it were through "factor analysis". In fact it would have probably been impossible to get to such depth with simple statistics. It begs the question what has mainstream science even become. The illustrative case studies that are presented bring so much life and clarity of the theory as well! I also really like Prof. Goodwyn's engaging and clarifying questions. Great discussion, as always!

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks Petar, fellow labourer in the vineyard…. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏🙏

[@theimaginarium]

Petar, you're so right. Clinically derived theory doesn't get the recognition it deserves--it often is seen as "anecdotal" or not "evidence based", the latter of which has become a buzzword for CBT-enthusiasts (or should I say "prefects"). But the sad truth is that you can only go so far with laboratory study. As useful as it is, there is no substitute for a keen and disciplined mind making insights based on everyday work.

[@95TurboSol]

I liked the discussion about how the ego inflation was a useful tool for survival in a certain context. It seems like we always discuss it as a bad thing without talking about why it's there and how it's helped us survive in a pinch. Very insightful

[@theimaginarium]

Absolutely--ego inflation has its place, too, doesn't it?

[@Señor_Cactus13]

Would narcissism be considered ego inflation? If so, I could see why it was/is a survival tool in my current culture.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Alexis V, if its 'adaptive' through response to developmental challenges, then it fits the description. If its genetic, and simply runs without contradiction, then the Ego isn't inflated, as its tolerances are set as they are. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏,

[@carlosrollano2641]

So many important distinctions, yet another awesome talk to play close attention to. Thank you Steve, Pauline and Dr. Goodwyn. All the best

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers, Carlos Rollani, thanks for your support for our work, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏🙏

[@amandasilcox3521]

I write this in gratitude as a current Pyschology Major, Minor in Trauma and Resilience. I, at times sound utterly bananas trying to explain archetypal biology. This lecture is great appreciated! By far one of the best I have heard in terms of "modern models". Thank you for all of your hard work and sharing!

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Amanda, that's very kind of you to say, and very much appreciated by us. Please keep us updated on your progress. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏🙏

[@nathanwilliams-prince3127]

At 1:09:30, talking about the man who was suffering from feelings of guilt for not attempting to save his friends and potentially sacrificing himself in a wartime situation, Steve describes how if the man could go back to being a little boy and acting out that situation in play, he would indeed sacrifice himself for his friends, and confirm to himself that he is capable of such an act. It brings to mind how an 'enactment' of such a situation for the man as he is today as an adult, in a safe and controlled yet natural way, could have very positive therapeutic effects, in being able to act out the intended instinct for altruistic sacrifice, and bring a kind of resolution and closure to an event that wasn't properly instinctually resolved. To be honest, while listening to this part of the video, I even felt deeply the man's situation for myself, in the sense of having missed the chance to do the instinctually right thing in one situation, and feeling guilty for that, but to reconnect to that feeling and enacting that willingness to put myself in danger to help others, brings a kind of energized but grounded, confirming feeling from within. Would this be an good example where a therapeutic 'enactment' could be used? Thank you very much for this video Dr. Goodwyn, Steve and Pauline!

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Nathan, this process as you know is taught on the IPSA Professional Training Course. To answer your question, in theory, it would, but, it would need very carefully preparation so as not to re-traumatise the veteran. That preparation would involve everything normally in place for an Enactment process, regarding a hand picked professional team of experienced Depth Psychologists, a full and comprehensive case history and a safe and controlled venue, appropriate family, social and medical/psychiatric support, including perhaps a chaperone, with of course fully informed consent. The time and care in building up rapport with the psyche, which would involve all preparatory explorations with, and confirmations from, the unconscious. The gradual introduction of the Meta-Instincts into relationship to the Ego, way ahead of any ‘IPSA Enactment’ protocol, would be essential. The management of the homeostatic process of Affect would be crucial. The eventual form the Enactment took, would be determined by this careful and incremental preliminary process. It could be accomplished without physical Enactment, if, the necessary safe ‘Vas’ has been built through rapport with the unconscious. So, Enactment should only ever be offered if it is indicated and agreed upon, teleologically, from within the psyche of the patient. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏

[@nathanwilliams-prince3127]

@@JungToLiveBy Thank you for the reply, I see there is a lot that needs be done a long time before an Enactment might take place. Thanks Steve for taking the time to describe this in detail.

[@nuni6158]

The way you put the difference between fantasy and imagination, around 42:00, is just brilliant.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers, N Uni, that’s very much appreciated. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline 🙏🙏

[@theimaginarium]

Yes, I have been making this distinction in my work too, but Steve and Pauline really have this nailed down in a sharply defined way. And since I am a huge fan of conceptual precision, I have already told them I will be stealing this way of labeling the two modes of fantastical thought.

[@Yacobo_]

So much was in this discussion, really liked the case studies which provided great practical examples of the model applied. The main feeling I have is one of gratitude to everyone in this video for the pioneering work made in these observations, synthesis, and discoveries of human nature. Hope to see more discussions with Professor Goodwyn in the future!

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Yacobo, thank you so much for your kind words, they're very much appreciated. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏

[@theimaginarium]

You certainly will if I have anything to say about it!

[@amarilismelendez7878]

Very well made discussion, I enjoyed it. And looking forward for other discussions that may come up in the future, the weaving and unweaving of relations. Thank you so much for the upload! Really brought insightful information.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Amarilis Melendez, thanks for your kind words, they're very much appreciated, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@ernestberry-songsrestored5637]

Another wonderful conversation and dialectic. I’m always impressed by your humble yet poised position. Thank you dearly.🙏

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again Ernest Berry-Songs Restored, many thanks for your support, for our work, and the channel. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@zero-tension3180]

Incredible stuff. Great to see Dr Goodwyn on again. Really appreciated and valued the discussion around the PTSD soldier case study especially. Cheers JTLB and IPSA

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings Projeckt Northgate, thank you for your ongoing support for the channel, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@theimaginarium]

There is a lot more to that case that I discuss in my book "Understanding Dreams and Other Spontaneous Images: the Invisible Storyteller" if you are interested.

[@zero-tension3180]

@@theimaginarium Thank you Dr Goodwyn! Apologies as i have only just received notification of your response. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I've really been enjoying these talks between you 3. I will certainly add your book mentioned to my list

[@markostupar740]

This is a very informative video. It's packed with very useful information of clinical value. Thank you 🙏

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks Marko, your on going support for the channel and commitment to your profession is very much appreciated. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline🙏🙏

[@theimaginarium]

And don't forget to like, share, and subscribe! Lol

[@TrinityForceOne]

I wish I had watched this one yesterday. If I hadn’t spent hours stuck in traffic revisions I might have. Oh well, at least it allows time for contemplation.

[@Lethemographilogical]

This was great! Erik has a gift for bringing things down while you expand on things. It helps understanding a lot. Please have a chat with John Vervaeke if you would be interested in that. I would love to hear you guys rift off of each other. I havent seen john talk to anybody with your perspective yet and i think he would deeply enjoy the conversation.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings, Andrew Marchant, I’m sure Professor Goodwyn would be the perfect guest, Kindest Regards, Steve🙏

[@thyself8004]

Unbelievable discussion. This one really encapsulates what separates IPSA from traditional depth psychology schools as well as the emerging field of Neuropsychoanalysis. You guys go so much further than anyone and we have Goodwyn, as well as others, to thank for putting in the rigorous research needed to put this model on a solid biological foundation. One question I have is you use the term “Janetian complexes” a lot. Is Jungs research on complexes included within that? I’m assuming it is since Jung was essentially further developing Janet’s ideas with his word associations, but just want to make sure I’m understanding the term correctly.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Jake, we use the term ‘Janetian Complexes’ to distinguish between those originating in a dissociation of, or from, usual Ego-consciousness, and those that are better described as ‘Deep Structure’ Complexes, as per recent videos. Janet didn’t use the term ‘unconscious’ instead, anticipating 21st century developments, he introduced the term ‘sub-conscious’ to delineate extensions of consciousness away from normal-awareness. Janet did not use the term ‘Complex’ but instead ‘sub-nuclei.’ Functionally it denotes the same thing when considered as what we call ‘Janetian Complexes.’ Jung borrowed heavily from Janet, but later failed to give him due credit. Thanks again for your kind words, kindest Regards, Steve🙏

[@theimaginarium]

I love Steve and Pauline's insights. Their extensive clinical experience gives them a keen awareness of what goes on in the psyche. I love these discussions, as I not only get a chance to discuss my work with brilliant minds (always a pleasure) but I come away having learned something myself!

[@JungToLiveBy]

It’s our absolute pleasure to talk with Professor Goodwyn, and learn from his vast knowledge and clinical experience. He’s at the very forefront of the New Paradigm in Depth Psychology 🏛🙏

[@ejenkins4711]

20 mins, is that mean that the psyche of the individual sort of gets ready to release a pulse of energy when it gets over it first causing the shock oxf the shadow?

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again E Jenkins, the main thing to remember is that the psyche is embedded in a quantum biopsychosocial continuum, that is regulated homeostatically, so yes, expect any number of informational and energetic pulses, and regulations, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@alexanderhomoky1140]

Hi thank you for the video, again very insightful and fascinating. Do you have a list of recommended IPSA trained therapists/hypnotherapists in or around the North West of England for in person work?

[@JungToLiveBy]

You can reach out on [e-mail]

[@dddd_-_]

Hi JungToLiveBy, was wondering if you can speak on psychasthenia and anxiety related to introversion. I feel as though I am greatly anxious due to being heavily introverted and was wondering on a solution, Thanks

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi dd cakez, psychaesthenia is an uncommon term these days. I’d be careful of bundling concepts like that with self-modelling of yourself as being anxious and ‘heavily introverted.’ If you feel you are that way, then make sure you have appropriate medical and therapeutic support, locally, to you. With that in place, there’s a lot of online peer support available from people undergoing a journey of personal development. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏

[@theimaginarium]

@@JungToLiveBy I second that.

[@sqrfoot6548]

I certainly felt warrior instincts kick in while giving birth. Then I became a hero.

[@theimaginarium]

This reminds me of Celtic and Germanic myths of pregnant warrior women like Freydis Eriksson or Macha of Ulster, a goddess who outran the King's horses in a chariot race while "heavy with child". The act killed her, but she cursed the Ulstermen as she died and gave all the warriors pregnancy pains, leaving the kingdom defenseless from the Connaughtmen, at which point the young Cú Chulainn had to step up and defend the kingdom singlehandedly. Moral of the story: do NOT disrespect momma...a quintessentially Irish sentiment!

[@josephmarknatuzzi6356]

In AA and Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous there is a saying "Don't Drink the First Image." Mark N. 41 years clean and Sober. Jungian Influenced since 1976🙏😎

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Joseph Mark Natuzzi, Respect to You, and for Your Journey, Kindest Regards, Steve🙏