40K Fleet Tactics And Strategy! The Tau Protection Fleet! Ships, Weapons And The Challenge Of Speed

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@ornu01
@ornu01 Жыл бұрын
The mosquito soars majestically into the spiders web. Somehow manages to fly right between the strands of silk and never noticed the annoyed spider.
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot Жыл бұрын
Yes, this.
@damnyankee3558
@damnyankee3558 Жыл бұрын
As dumb a reason it is this is why I love the tau
@Venneroth
@Venneroth Жыл бұрын
"Hello, oh, eight-legged organism! Would you like to join my Greater Good?" asks the fly.
@ornu01
@ornu01 Жыл бұрын
@@Venneroth "Certainly, oh six legged prey, I have plenty of room on my web here, bring your friends and we shall all share in the sumptuous feast I am preparing, for the Greater Good."
@WarCriminal-y1u
@WarCriminal-y1u Жыл бұрын
The Tau are like playing Stellaris as a new species, but with 2 fallen empires and 4 end game crisis going on at the same time.
@thegeneralissimo470
@thegeneralissimo470 Жыл бұрын
And they’re all busy with everything else.
@TheDreamStarGames
@TheDreamStarGames Жыл бұрын
I kind of like their role in they universe. The Galaxy at first belong to the the Necrons but they lost it due to their huberious. Then the dominant civilization of the Galaxy was the Eldar but now they are a dying civilization just a former of shadow of what they once were. Currently the Galaxy belongs to humanity. But I'd like to think that maybe the Tau are next in line.
@MinistryPhenom
@MinistryPhenom Жыл бұрын
@@TheDreamStarGames is this the result of a stroke + ESL at once?
@mastercharlesdiltardino8058
@mastercharlesdiltardino8058 Жыл бұрын
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@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon Жыл бұрын
@@TheDreamStarGames you kind of like the Tau's role in... what? the necrons lost the galaxy due to their... what? currently the galaxy belongs to... who? EDIT: Ok, it's been fixed. 😅
@Balevolt
@Balevolt Жыл бұрын
The thought of a Tau prototype ship jumping blindly into the warp without a navigator or Geller Field fills me with more than I thought it would.
@Benthesniperof8
@Benthesniperof8 Жыл бұрын
Now imagine, an entire 5th sphere expansion sized fleet filled with prototype ships, and humans spread throughout 60% of the ships. Let's just say that the tau only ships in that fleet didn't get the memo about trying to fight demons in the warp, and decided to try and save the ships of the fleet in warpspace by sending battlesuits into the maelstrom of the warp to assist the doomed ships with the humans aboard. All that is one of the main plot points regarding one of the new primaris era books. Tiss pretty good book.
@Hippo_Hegemony
@Hippo_Hegemony Жыл бұрын
More what? I NEED TO KNOW
@HubiKoshi
@HubiKoshi Жыл бұрын
That's basically the Tau version of Event Horizon movie.
@Yokou32
@Yokou32 Жыл бұрын
More joy? I totally agree.
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Жыл бұрын
@@Yokou32i feel schadenfreude at the idea of tau getting a taste of what the adult species have to deal with regularly.
@skabor1
@skabor1 Жыл бұрын
a 1 hour long lore video from arch, the emperor is with us
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
Its been a while since we had 1 hour.
@foff3804
@foff3804 Жыл бұрын
It's truly amazing how little GW grasps basic physics along with the technical terms they toss around because they sound cool to them.
@MWBalls
@MWBalls Жыл бұрын
One thing that a lot of amateur Sci-Fi struggles with is FTL speeds. Light speed is laughably slow, and completely non-viable for an interstellar civilization. 10 times lightspeed is barely viable for interstellar civilization. You are still taking months to go between close stars at that speed. You are going to need speeds approaching 1000 light years a day to maintain a coherent government and military across any significant chunk of a galaxy.
@sparking023
@sparking023 Жыл бұрын
That's not exclusive of GDubs. As previously mentioned, many works of sci-fi have no idea of what cosmic scale means and how light is actually very slow in that scale. It's not a surprise that all too often you see a variant of Warp Drives or Hyperspace. Star Trek and Star Wars kind of cemented the cheesy way to solve that issue, so if it ain't broken...
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
@@MWBalls Even at 100x Lightspeed you are still taking two weeks to reach Alpha Centauri and 3,000 years to reach the other side of the Milky Way. You could probably run a small interstellar empire with that speed, but it would be like maintaining a colonial empire during the Age of Sail; it takes months to project your forces to where they need to go.
@Yankees1098
@Yankees1098 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video about the necron navy it’s barely talked about. I mean it was used to take over the galaxy in the war in heaven and used to fight the Ctan
@ulquiorracifer2243
@ulquiorracifer2243 Жыл бұрын
Afaik the necron ships are actually the most dangerous aspect of necrons.
@MrThefoxyone
@MrThefoxyone Жыл бұрын
@@ulquiorracifer2243 oh my summer child, no, not at Ll
@warrenmason1582
@warrenmason1582 Жыл бұрын
@@ulquiorracifer2243 I think the map that can wipe out galaxies is the most powerful
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 Жыл бұрын
Thing is, there isn't that much detail to them... and Necron ships are so comedically overpowered (individually) that every one would amount to 'easily takes on Imperial ships in enormous numbers.' One of the few times Fluff and Crunch line up near perfectly is Necron ships in Battlefleet Gothic. (The Tabletop, for gameplay reasons they are a LOT less powerful in the videogame adaptation. Where they remain the most expensive and individually powerful ships of the line in the game.) Also Necron ships really don't have much verity of weapons at all. Basically, while it might make a nice half an hour, there's not much to go over there. Not that I'd object to a video on the topic!
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
@@Sorain1 Necron ships also suffer from some lore-itis, where they sometimes seem like merely powerful ships that suffer from low numbers, and at other times they're so powerful that 3 of them can teleport into the SOL SYSTEM and tank hits from Battlefleet Solar and a porcupine of orbital defence batteries for long enough that one of them is still able to touch down on Mars before being destroyed.
@Balevolt
@Balevolt Жыл бұрын
Assault Boats must be straight nightmare fuel for Tau admirals
@charlottewalnut3118
@charlottewalnut3118 Жыл бұрын
That’s what the screening guns are for
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 Жыл бұрын
Not as much as Space Marine Terminators.
@stefanoputignano1555
@stefanoputignano1555 Жыл бұрын
@@charlottewalnut3118 and if the space marines teleport inside the bridge?
@pjmetzen3483
@pjmetzen3483 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanoputignano1555 uh shields and electronic counter measures? And again, they have to get close enough.
@stefanoputignano1555
@stefanoputignano1555 Жыл бұрын
@@pjmetzen3483 assuming they understand how the warp works, and how to keep it out
@tba113
@tba113 Жыл бұрын
I suppose there is another possibility for the ZFR-1 engine: as a replacement for real-space maneuvering, not for FTL jumps. ...Except that raises other problems: that kind of speed in real-space implies the sort of UFO-style maneuverability you'd associate with Eldar or Necron ships, and that isn't what we see.
@njnjco
@njnjco Жыл бұрын
Maybe they skip into the warp and pop on their ZFR-1 engines and fly at near light speed in there. If they used them in real space than they would still be limited by the normal laws of physics, meaning that it wold take near infinite energy to accelerate to near light speed and they could fly into a small rock or space dust at relativistic speeds and tear their ship apart. This is my head cannon to explain it anyway.
@fadelsukoco3092
@fadelsukoco3092 Жыл бұрын
33:25 The Manta is actually a pretty useful alternative for Titan-grade war engines due to it's relatively more simple design (an aircraft instead of a mech) and given the way the Tau do things, losing one or two would be far less of a resource and personnel training investment loss than losing something like a Warlord titan. I actually wished that the Tau didn't go the way of progressively bigger robots like the Stormsurge and Ta'unar in what seemed like an attempt to copy the other major powers and instead just focused on what they were already good at, taking down titan-grade engines with coordinated strikes from heavy artillery and ordinance platforms like hovertanks and aerial platforms, each carrying a gun or missile rack as big as the ones on their titan-equivalents. It would've made the Tau more unique and be more consistent with their established history.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 Жыл бұрын
The Lore Master speaks !!! He blesses us with more information from his treasured archives.
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Жыл бұрын
This was a pretty bad video however. I would consider this my specialist topic(fleets in 40k). There are so many errors, however with gw mucking about with tau retcons every edition I can see why.
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon Жыл бұрын
T: “Behold! Our Custodian-class Battleship!” I: “That’s not canon.” T: “But… it’s right there!” _~One cyclonic torpedo barrage later~_ I: “You were saying?”
@foff3804
@foff3804 Жыл бұрын
That would require GW to you know think logically. Which would destroy 40k.
@joshuasturnfield7549
@joshuasturnfield7549 Жыл бұрын
Kaboom!
@Feuerhamster
@Feuerhamster Жыл бұрын
Any other race: *gets anything* Imperial fanboys: REEE WE DESTROY IT THE IMPERIUM IS THE STRONGESTEST AND MIGHTINESTESTESTEST WE WIN WE WIN WE WINN WAAAAA
@rightsideup6304
@rightsideup6304 Жыл бұрын
@@Feuerhamster Unironically the least down bad IG/SM player in a nutshell. I get GW's business model revolves heavily around "Your Guys" but sometimes I like to think that it is a mistake with people like that.
@Khornecussion
@Khornecussion Жыл бұрын
@@rightsideup6304 Chaos space marine players when you tell them they're the bad guys and the Imperium are the good guys going on a thirty minute class per chaos god on why they are " true humanity " and the Imperium is the half-baked system of the Emperor before he could make them all into soulless automatons.
@Guardias
@Guardias Жыл бұрын
Astounding that the Tau haven't gone the route of droid starfighters and the like due to their extreme lack of manpower.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Жыл бұрын
Or Droid Gun ships. But the drones are pretty much the missiles.
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
Theory: Tau are a small empire. They lack the resources for the sheer amount of drone necessary to build drone fleets. Add to this a cultural belief that drones exist to support the tau. Not to replace them.
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl Жыл бұрын
The tau absolutely do use drone fighters. In BFG their torpedo bombers are drones.
@TheEldritchGod
@TheEldritchGod Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. FULLY automated AI run combat ships. THAT will work out JUST FINE.
@jamiejones7730
@jamiejones7730 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about why the Tau haven't upgraded their fliers lore wise most likely explanation would be they don't have the resources plan and simple. If the Imperium ordered 100 Retribution class battleships (just play along everything in the Imperium is a long lost STC) the only real issue is time, where as the Tau could probably make 5 without serious time delays the resources they would consume would be a serious issue for them. Well that's my take on it.
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
I agree. One of the imperium's biggest strengths is its massive industry. Tau simply cannot outproduce anyone else in 40k.
@krzosu
@krzosu Жыл бұрын
The Warden class reminds me of the game Escape Velocity Nova - where the Auroran empire warriors were using a ship exactly like that and it was called "Abomination" :D Very chunky ship with a massive payload and mean attitude :D
@farmerboy916
@farmerboy916 Жыл бұрын
A fellow EV Nova player, from back in the day! I never really explored the Aurorans much when I was a kid tbh. I did just download a version again though, but I think ran into a main quest breaking bug after going out of my way to chart the whole map 😢
@griffgoldstein6378
@griffgoldstein6378 Жыл бұрын
great game. sad there is no support for it anymore.
@farmerboy916
@farmerboy916 Жыл бұрын
@@griffgoldstein6378 There is a subreddit, and a place to download ‘modern’ versions
@Solid_Snake427
@Solid_Snake427 Жыл бұрын
Oh a 1 hour lore video.. Absolutely Glorious!
@robertmurfet5834
@robertmurfet5834 Жыл бұрын
I fucking love your hour long videos takes me back to the Elder days, lore on good Sir.
@skalgrimfellaxe5796
@skalgrimfellaxe5796 Жыл бұрын
I'v made a few new ships for the Tau factions for Battle Fleet Gothic Armada 2. Now I need to fight them again. Deep dives in 40K ship lore is nice.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Жыл бұрын
Well before IA3 the Taros Campaign, it was 3 tau capital ships, a few escorts, and then they had their auxiliaries being the Kroot, Demung, and Nicassah. The Korvesh fleet was needed for Battlefleet Gothic, and I am quite annoyed they didn't do the same for Tyranids and Necrons.
@Khalith
@Khalith Жыл бұрын
A similar overview of the imperial ships would be nice. It would probably be a few parts though.
@nigredoooalgown6245
@nigredoooalgown6245 Жыл бұрын
Ram the smaller ones, Broadside the bigger ones. there Imperial Space tactics.
@Rellana1
@Rellana1 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the Tau got hold of a Lunar-class cruiser-,damaged or not to study. The mechanicus like to convert damaged or destroyed Lunar-class hulls into Battlecruisers if they can get the hulls back to a shipyard.
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Жыл бұрын
@@Rellana1 you have to keep in mind that the Lunar is the most produced cruiser by far. Drifting Hulks are going to be relatively common as these things go.
@Rellana1
@Rellana1 Жыл бұрын
@@Raygun9000 Still I couldn't imagine the mechanicus wasting resources. If they could get them back to a shipyard I'm imagine they'd do so.
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Жыл бұрын
@@Rellana1 definitely, any cruiser is a massive investment, if you can salvage one let alone repair one it'll be manna from heaven.
@ANKAMedien
@ANKAMedien Жыл бұрын
"because they value a planets population." "Inquisitor, Sir, what does this incomprehensible gibberish mean?" "Nothing you need to concern yourself about"
@HD-mp6yy
@HD-mp6yy Жыл бұрын
Arch could make a twelve hour long video about the logistics of wax production and I would still watch it all.
@shawnm1902
@shawnm1902 Жыл бұрын
The Tau fleet sounds like a cow waiting to be violated (er i mean milked by) a Haemonculus following capture...
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Жыл бұрын
Their run in with dark eldar is too funny, can’t wait for their warp god to really start messing with them
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl Жыл бұрын
True but tau are not very connected to the warp so the deldar would only torture the as a hobby not for nourishment.
@TheDreamStarGames
@TheDreamStarGames Жыл бұрын
I don't see why both the Ether Drive and the ZFR Horizon Accelerator Engine can't both exists. While the Ether Drive allows Tau to skim the warp it might not be an effective engine in real space. They warp doesn't flow equally in all places this indeed would be useful if your Ether Drive was damaged to have as a back up. A good argument for having this as a backup " if we ended up in the void between the stars ... we would all surely die in the fathomless dark, centuries from succour even at the best speed our vessel(battle-barge?) was capable of in the material realm." - Commissar Cain. The ZFR might even allow the Tau to circumvent SOME areas effected warp storms, Giving them a legalistically advantage over the those cases.
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot Жыл бұрын
When it comes to railgun batteries and any other unguided weapons with finite projectile speed - there will always be the range at which they become completely ineffective so long as opponent can see you fire the guns. This range is established by comparing how long it will take the enemy to leave the target area(accounting for weapon spread) against how long it will take for the shot to get there, provided they can start to maneuver as soon as they see the "muzzle flash" (or EM pulse in railgun's case).
@Echo_Online
@Echo_Online Жыл бұрын
That only works if your target isn't aware they're in a fight. At all other times the target can just sprinkle in random manoeuvres while they're shooting back/approaching. If someone's pointing a gun at you there's no need to wait until they pull the trigger to duck
@sciarpecyril
@sciarpecyril Жыл бұрын
​@@Echo_Online, it is really hard in space to not know that you are currently in battle. So hard in fact that is simpler to know.
@ancientarts6019
@ancientarts6019 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm a little late for this conversation but you're talking about a complete non issue. The speed of the projectile would be such that a vessel attempting to dodge would kill it's crew and tear itself apart by trying to change it's direction to fast due to the G forces involved. There will be ineffective ranges where you're unsure if you can track their positions but, given the ship is moving at a speed that's hard to track with a railgun it would also be impossible for them to change direction fast enough to dodge. Meanwhile going to slow accelerating up to a speed capable of dodging would have the same issue. Essentially the moment you're spotted within effective range with out enough shields or armor you're just straight up canonn fodder. [ Now if we start talking about staying out of the way of the cannons themselves such as abusing their turret rotation speed etc is still a very reasonable tactic but probably only plausible if really close and using a smaller ship.]
@sparking023
@sparking023 Жыл бұрын
This raises the possibility for relativistic weaponry. The Tau are probably the one faction who would greatly benefit from having those around, considering their expansion zone is relatively small and their resources are very limited. You see, lightspeed is awfully slow in the context of galaxies, but within a solar system? Well, how about this? You have a star system under your control and you have to keep that guarded from enemy fleets, fleets whose that will enter the system to attack the worlds. So in preparation, you scatter lots of sensors around that will send a signal if enemy movement is detected. And when that happens, you point at them a large railgun capable of launching projectiles at 90% the speed of light. That weapon is mounted at a space station allowing a complete coverage of the star system. You may not be able to stop them, but you already start the fight vastly outranging the enemy and harassing them, quite possibly forcing them to take another route or scatter to avoid damage. The problem would be if someone decided to warp jump right next to your planet, but at that point the Tau would be boned anyway
@sciarpecyril
@sciarpecyril Жыл бұрын
@@sparking023, even inside solar systems speed of light may not be enough. For example, light from the Sun reaches Neptune only after 252,95 minutes or 4,21 hours - there is plenty of time to evade any shot, disregarding the impossibility of aiming such shot on impermanently moving target at this distance in the first place. This is why in Wh40k the main long range weapons in space are guided torpedoes and small attack spacecraft. And Tau torpedoes (missiles) are pretty good.
@NornQueenKya
@NornQueenKya Жыл бұрын
Tau strategy: avoid melee But that wouldn't have made for a very long video
@-SRM-
@-SRM- Жыл бұрын
Wow. Look at Arch go. The rarest of finds. A female 40k fan. You are one of the few and the proud lady.
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
@@-SRM- lol, Arch finally went spear fishing you see.
@INSANESUICIDE
@INSANESUICIDE Жыл бұрын
@@-SRM- probably a jannie
@INSANESUICIDE
@INSANESUICIDE Жыл бұрын
@@tarektechmarine8209 *harpoon you mean?
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Жыл бұрын
Orks: Hey Blue Boyz, shooting at you with big Daka was starting to get boring. So we decided to come see the look on your face as we throw our choppas into them.
@fren111
@fren111 Жыл бұрын
I remembered I read somewhere that imperial ships have gravity technology, but they use it more to keep the ship together in case of severe damage
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl Жыл бұрын
They primarily use it to have actual gravity on board of the ship...
@danielslezberg8305
@danielslezberg8305 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy the tau video. Unfortunately most people don’t do deep dives into the tau. So as a big tau fan I beg of ya please do more tau
@INSANESUICIDE
@INSANESUICIDE Жыл бұрын
Damn space commie!
@bastionofdeus6612
@bastionofdeus6612 Жыл бұрын
This. Pretty sure he'd said in a past tau video that he'd need to make a video on the enclaves at some point
@Schinak
@Schinak Жыл бұрын
Hell no
@bastionofdeus6612
@bastionofdeus6612 Жыл бұрын
@@Schinak *HURK* adaptus genericus fan detected opinion disregarded.
@isuckatusernames4297
@isuckatusernames4297 Жыл бұрын
also most people seem to hate the tau.
@marley7868
@marley7868 Жыл бұрын
14:45 yeah true kinda why I always get annoyed when people forget star wars speeds compared to the slow as 40k
@davidodonovan1699
@davidodonovan1699 Жыл бұрын
37:06 Arch: "...a break from looking like a fish or something..." Me: "That sort of looks like a stingray." Also, the Barakuda. How do they know what an Earth/Terria...oh yeah, humans could have brought them over from earth millennia before the 41st millennium. BTW, Barakuda also the name of a military/ civilian chase boat/patrol boat, made here in Ireland by the company Safe Haven Marine. It looks cool on KZbin, with an extending gun turret at the bow of the boat. It can be flipped over 180⁰ and self right itself with it's low centre of gravity and water tight hatches/doors.
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
We gave them that name, that's how things are named according to what we(Imperial humans) see.
@davidodonovan1699
@davidodonovan1699 Жыл бұрын
@@tarektechmarine8209 ah. OK. Thank you.
@damdumah2552
@damdumah2552 Жыл бұрын
See the fires burning clearly fortune favors great commmander greatfull hails break the silence glory kor glory kor strike we shall fallow mighty kor mighty kor
@nathanzylla4961
@nathanzylla4961 Жыл бұрын
"For the greater good"...well I do like frozen blueberries. Tastes great on the Korne flakes
@De_Wit
@De_Wit Жыл бұрын
All hail Remembrancer Arch for documenting the Imperiums glorious history of victory's over all those who would stand against it!!
@Anbutou
@Anbutou Жыл бұрын
I'm feeling like the ZF-R is intended to be the operational engine, not the warp drive. It's probably designed to work best in the frictionless environment, immediately propelling you to near max speed, where in realspace it's a lot more sluggish and performs more like how we see them on the table/lore. Tau warp drive was just built to get you in there and use the shunt speed, with a real engine, you get somewhere near (~50%) imperial speed.
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Жыл бұрын
Nah, this is gw shitting the bed when specialist games shut down(and slightly before depending on the author 🙃). The lore of xenos fleets got pretty wonky when there was no oversight. Necrons not having ftl at all, Nids using gravetic corridors and no warp travel, Tau having slow and non relativistic ftl and no warp travel. All these have been retconned back to being sensible in the current edition. Kroot and Demiurg(Votann) having warp travel makes the (now erased) idea of Tau having an unrelated and terrible method of ftl rather silly.
@NinjaEnShort
@NinjaEnShort Жыл бұрын
I don't know how it'd compare to other voidcrafts but technically there is the Tigershark which is supposed to be a "Titankiller". Maybe that'd be the void superiority fighter ?
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the tiger shark just looks like the fire raptor equivalent for tau. Though the fire raptor looks more maneuverable.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Жыл бұрын
Well that was a Tigershark variation, which was supposed to be a Drone control platform.
@owlsayssouth
@owlsayssouth Жыл бұрын
Tigershark AX 1-0 is armed with two heavy railguns instead of drones. It slaps. Brrrt
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Жыл бұрын
It's not canon but I'd prefer to think of tau 'fighter squadrons' as a mixture of barracudas and tiger shark variants.
@Disturbed18Rocker
@Disturbed18Rocker Жыл бұрын
Arch I was at work when I saw you dropped a new video and I literally said outloud "Oh, thank god" Love your stuff man, thanks for making my day a little bit better.
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
Well, I didn't expect this, but it is welcome.
@BraydenDodman
@BraydenDodman Жыл бұрын
More lore videos. At LAST. Wish we'd get more of these
@andrewwynne6934
@andrewwynne6934 Жыл бұрын
T'au logic is basically "Eh, try it. See what happens."
@shawnm1902
@shawnm1902 Жыл бұрын
When "fuck around and find out" is scientific doctrine...
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
That's probably us, if we ever get of this planet.
@kacpadestro8086
@kacpadestro8086 Жыл бұрын
@@shawnm1902 litteraly the plot of thier recent book
@TheFatalcrest
@TheFatalcrest Жыл бұрын
XD I could listen to Arch talk about scifi vehicles and tech all day long.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Жыл бұрын
I so want a 40k version of Empire At War, I know just the take on Tau ships. 1st Capital ship available is the Explorer class which acts like a dreadnought but is too expensive to make multiples of. The next would be the more economical Merchant class light Cruiser which would be more affordable but nearly worthless at combat. The Hero Class would be 1st ship of the line falling just short of the Lunar Class.
@DefaultFlame
@DefaultFlame Жыл бұрын
The Gal'Leath, or however you spell it, sounds like a ship from the Star Trek Federation. And we know how well they would fare in 40k. More advanced in some ways, but woefully inadequate for the scale and scope of 40k.
@onieyoh9478
@onieyoh9478 Жыл бұрын
The Tau should use void tech like void shields. It would be an interesting way to introduce Chaos as an enemy to the Tau. Imagine, over time strange occurances on ships and drydocks planetside. Strange entities and ghosts appearing and the Tau unable to figure out what or why. Unknown to them, the very technology they use for FTL travel and defense allows Chaos to slowly seep into real space. This could be because they don't use or even can't use gellar fields as they're not psychic. An interesting flaw for the Tau, for all their technological prowess, they can hardly begin to comprehend the warp and the horror's it holds as they now need to rely on forces beyond their control just to survive in such a dangerous galaxy.
@TheEldritchGod
@TheEldritchGod Жыл бұрын
Another addition to my 40k tactics playlist.
@davidodonovan1699
@davidodonovan1699 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Arch. Well done man.
@thug4lyfe
@thug4lyfe Жыл бұрын
I see Tau, I click! For the Greater Good!!!!
@pawebroszko4737
@pawebroszko4737 Жыл бұрын
I liked better when it was 1/10 of imperial speed at first and 1/6 during agrellan camping
@geordieswhyfronts7654
@geordieswhyfronts7654 Жыл бұрын
Praise be to the ALGORITHM!!!
@IRMentat
@IRMentat Жыл бұрын
I do enjoy stories of the tau looking up at the stars saying "one day, all this will be ours" only for the stars to look back upon them with the faces of old gods, horrible monsters, empires fighting for survival and random mushrooms looking for a good ol punch up like a mashup of lovecraft, norse mythology and a zoo full of starving animals. Poor blueberries, their foolish grasping became yet another struggle for survival in a very hostile galaxy, eff knows what they shought when chaos and dark eldar started paying some attention to them as well. If the imperials were coldly methodical (plus the occasional surrender and die peacefully foul alien message) the other 2 would be very much more personal about making sure you know they are out to mess with you specifically and in the most horrible ways possible.
@owlsayssouth
@owlsayssouth Жыл бұрын
The tau space fighter, a proper heavier one, is the Tigershark ax 1-0. Built in response to the tau seeing titans. The Tigershark was not quite armed enough (being originally armed with ion canons and a bunch of drones), so they shoved the manta's heavy railguns into it. It's an homage to the real world a-10 warthog. The heavy railguns are quite effective, once past the shields, against escorts and devastating to smaller crafts (including titans). The Tigershark is much smaller and more maneuverable than the manta (which are actually dropships (basically a leopard class from battletech)).
@zhaneispain2746
@zhaneispain2746 Жыл бұрын
Arch I love you man, love your content. It also helps me relax and ... idk if you'll appreciate me saying this .... you help me sleep listening to your knowledge... like a college lecture... puts me to sleep 😴 💤 😪 thanks!
@gunnargunnhilt
@gunnargunnhilt Жыл бұрын
This is one of the better videos in terms of art. Unlike the most videos by Arch, this one provides respective art as he talks about the specific ship.
@thijshagenbeek6554
@thijshagenbeek6554 Жыл бұрын
I said it before. And I will say it again. The Imperial Navy is innumerable and can outnumber, outgun and outfight anny other factions navy on several segmenta, Several times over. Its stated in the Lore that crewing every single ship the Imperial Navy has in Mothball, reserve or under construction would demand the mobilization of humanity on a level even the Indomitus Crusade did not even do. If the Lord High Admirals ever got a free hand by Roboutte Guilliman to pull every Crusade Era ship and old battlecruiser out of mothball, refit them and crew them effectively. they could pick space clean.
@mikewaterfield3599
@mikewaterfield3599 Жыл бұрын
You mean Kor’O’Vesh the Kor’Vatt’Ra is the logistical fleet made up predominantly of Gal’eth class and Kes’El class ships. The Kor’O’Vesh is the modern “manta ship” combat fleet. I was still playing BFG table top when the second fleet was introduced. Tau smart missiles are awesome.
@styxriverr5237
@styxriverr5237 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of my DMs solution for travel in Rogue Trader. Essentially he has various clusters of systems that we can just "jump" through to get from place to place without needing to make warp jumps and it's assorted rolls of pure fuckery. That said if we want to get anywhere fast especially for travel to a different cluster of systems... Then we need to use warp travel. Which inevitably leads to a cluster fuck of missed jumps and being lost or in one case, winding up back where we came from by sheer accident and bad rolls... After 3 sessions of trying to get where we where going.
@kingvigik805
@kingvigik805 Жыл бұрын
great video, but I think you forgot about the Tiger Shark
@AlessioAndres
@AlessioAndres Жыл бұрын
Spinning the ship at light speed, mid journey to the next star is the best Tau joke I've ever heard of. 🤣
@shanehudson3995
@shanehudson3995 9 ай бұрын
I remember when the Tau had a type of warp drive before the Damocles Gulf crusade. They'd have to have on, else they would have been rolled over before the rest of them even knew the Imperium had invaded.
@dominiquesavoie568
@dominiquesavoie568 Жыл бұрын
Ah, a lore video about the tatics and strategy about the Space Communists...
@markokrsmanovic2562
@markokrsmanovic2562 Жыл бұрын
They are pretty these Tau ships it would be such a spectacle to see an Imperial cruiser ram a "Custody" battleship :)
@mrpoison8770
@mrpoison8770 Жыл бұрын
Missils, a lot of missils from annoying long range if you are a enemy.
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
Not really, in order to do damage they'd need to be bigish missiles. These are so easily intercepted by starfuries and thunderhawks, the least flyable of all boxes can destroy scores of missiles, this type of weapons would also need ammo, and unlike the imperium the tau don't have both the structure or scale of ship for that when energy weapons that the tau are known for will do just as well.
@holo525
@holo525 Жыл бұрын
You need missiles per say. A kinetic impact in space is horrifc for ships since they don't lose velocity. A tau ship just using rail guns with uranium or tungsten rods would outright destroy ships without their void shields.
@Flin2099
@Flin2099 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video sir. Thank you! :)
@halroth9222
@halroth9222 Жыл бұрын
I may be remembering this wrong (need to check the old BFG tau supplement) but didn’t the ether drive used the sublight engines to boost into to warp before getting bounced back out? Perhaps that’s how the horizon drive it better? More boost into the warp for a bigger bounce? I’m guessing as I haven’t seen the text covering the horizon drive.
@deejayxcrypt
@deejayxcrypt Жыл бұрын
Does the Tau sleep in some “cryo-pod-thingies” or not eat/drink much at all? I mean, it’s very risky to send a giant fleet to just travel in space towards potentially a world that’s potentially an utter wasteland. Edit: I mean, sure, they send in some drones first or something… but if the travel takes too long so does the communication.
@TheDreamStarGames
@TheDreamStarGames Жыл бұрын
The tau do not cross interstellar distances by navigating the tides of the warp, for such esoteric matters are beyond them. Instead they use conventional science, exceptional technology and a great deal of patience. The vast majority of those tau that undertake the crossing are frozen in cryostasis, put into cold storage like slabs of meat or livestock cargo to while away the years as their ship seeks new horizons. Should they make it across safely, they are then effectively defrosted on the other side. With a natural lifespan of around four decades, eight or nine at the most, they consider this limbo preferable to a years-long stretch of relative inactivity -- Farsight, Crisis of Faith
@deejayxcrypt
@deejayxcrypt Жыл бұрын
@@TheDreamStarGames Yup. Thanks. So it is the cryo thingie and food storage. Very dangerous and always should have enough resources to at least be able to return immediately.
@TheImperialAnswer
@TheImperialAnswer Жыл бұрын
In the case of the Gal'Leath, that was showing it's age against even the Orks and their Kill Kroozers and what not.
@Henry-ov7rh
@Henry-ov7rh Жыл бұрын
This makes me really want a gulf crusade video.
@TheDreamStarGames
@TheDreamStarGames Жыл бұрын
Hersey at 28:38 it starts with Xeno gravity shields, next you'll have the guard marching into the biofurnaces! Expect a visit for your local Inquisitor!
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 Жыл бұрын
An hour long video on the Tau Navy. Not my favorite part of the 40k lore, mostly because Tau think too highly of themselves and fail to comprehend just how massive the galaxy is, how small they will always be, and how much stronger literally every faction is compared to them. They live because everyone else has better things to do. But the Tau experimentation with Warp Travel, only to not understand what a Geller Field is, is absolutely hilarious. The Tau can count themselves lucky that they are not Warp sensitive like the vast majority of species in the galaxy.
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
As much as the tau are technologically advanced, they aren't anywhere close to even 40k imperium, nevermind the stuff astartes can still use. The thing is, people confuse technological advancement as if the GALAXY crusade never happened.
@Nathan_Moor
@Nathan_Moor Жыл бұрын
I like these series!
@brutalusgaming8809
@brutalusgaming8809 Жыл бұрын
Love this style of video.
@tornesaurio
@tornesaurio Жыл бұрын
**Fleet Tactics** YES! **Tau** In the inmortal words of Shield-Captain Kitten: "Fuck the Tau"
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
Literally in his case.
@FrostbiteDigital
@FrostbiteDigital Жыл бұрын
Tau are interesting. What's wrong with you? Show me on the doll where the big bad blue alien inappropriately touched you
@tornesaurio
@tornesaurio Жыл бұрын
@@FrostbiteDigital the fact that you instantly went for sexual abuse makes me wonder if you're projecting
@JimmyRa6s
@JimmyRa6s Жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid Arch
@komanderkel
@komanderkel Жыл бұрын
36:53 damn your mixing up the empire and the imperium? it smells like you've got another project in the works
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
Empire=imperium, is there a difference?
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
@@tarektechmarine8209 Mostly what us nerds think of when we hear the words. Empire: Star wars galatic empire. Imperium: 40k human theoacry with a lot of vassals.
@colmcorbec7031
@colmcorbec7031 Жыл бұрын
Heart of oak are our ships! :D
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 Жыл бұрын
Can Arch discuss the Farsight Enclaves?
@lvendahl6776
@lvendahl6776 Жыл бұрын
Can he? Most certainly. Will he? We'll see.
@Nomadic_Gaming
@Nomadic_Gaming Жыл бұрын
hope he does too
@-SRM-
@-SRM- Жыл бұрын
@@lvendahl6776 You speak the truth.
@patricksmith9700
@patricksmith9700 Жыл бұрын
I want a novel about the Tau fighting the iron warriors or alpha legion. It would be hilarious
@TheDreamStarGames
@TheDreamStarGames Жыл бұрын
They have fought the the Ultramarines and Scare lords space marines, and who knows they could have been fighting alpha legion this whole time... I mean it is alpha legion...
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Жыл бұрын
The Deathguard put an end to their 5th Sphere.
@SlippySlippy
@SlippySlippy Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a logistics video about Ork planetary invasions, and defense. why? cuz i wanna see arch suffer ofc
@alpinewolf7751
@alpinewolf7751 Жыл бұрын
It's blueberry time again. Get me the flamer.
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 Жыл бұрын
The _HEAVY_ flamer...😑
@alpinewolf7751
@alpinewolf7751 Жыл бұрын
@@sadwingsraging3044 Naturally.
@Morgomir09
@Morgomir09 Жыл бұрын
Mmm roasted blueberries
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
And how do you intent to get in flamer range?
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 Жыл бұрын
@@malaficus bait... Put a bit of lipstick with maybe a blue wig and some pearls on a drone.💋 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@zigzera7757
@zigzera7757 Жыл бұрын
The void barracuda problem is definitely gw just being lazy same as the shielding a lot of things about the tau reek of a half fleshed out idea as if they weren’t sure if it was a good idea to add the faction and only had half the staff on board to do it
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
This honestly makes sense, think the US military, they LOVE multi-role aircraft and that said the structure to mass produce these are already in place, they do decent enough with their co-ordination, though I have to ask how good are they against eldar like aircraft.
@mikeg9516
@mikeg9516 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids dude, helps me paint my knights
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Жыл бұрын
Zfr horizon engine has currently been scrapped by gw. 13:00 It's actually worse than stated as it's 'non relativistic'. So time on board the ship stays at a constant requiring the crew to be put into suspended animation to survive the very long journeys.
@thesuminer
@thesuminer Жыл бұрын
Have you ever played Sword of the Stars? The psychic dolphin people, the Liir, had no actual engines on board their ships, they move their ships by using their psychic ability to do microteleportations.
@beskararmor7966
@beskararmor7966 Жыл бұрын
Blueberry lore definitely requires more space magic to work than the Imperiums plot armor.
@advert1489
@advert1489 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind time-dilation. If it is 4-years at .98c, then 20 years would pass on the planets. That number climbs really high the closer you get to c.
@balketh2426
@balketh2426 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy learning about the tau they may be the most evil race in warhmmer but thats why i like them.
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
That's weird, everyone else tells them as saints, to take over from the facistic imperium of man.
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 Жыл бұрын
@@tarektechmarine8209 I can hear the Blueberries now chanting "That's not _real_ Tauism!"
@Alex_Fahey
@Alex_Fahey Жыл бұрын
@@Zlyxon If we are going by how miserable the people of the respective empire feel as a standard for good, then the Tau are on the bottom end with the Humans. The higher end has a competition between the Tyranids with endless satisfaction through service to the Hive, the fungus orcs with their boisterous enjoyment of a neverending brawl, and the Slanneshi cults' perfection of pleasure.
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
@@tarektechmarine8209 Being conquers that intergrate xenno's as second class citizens is vastly superior to genocide empires. Imagine it like this: You are a slaver who threats his slaves extreemly well. Everyone else is a mass murderer. You will look like a saint in comparision. You arent good. Just better then the alternative.
@akuinator6350
@akuinator6350 Жыл бұрын
Why don't the Tau just start using human navigators or their allied psychic species to jump faster through the Warp?
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea but you would need the entire support structure to get there, ways to locate potential psykers, which ones of those are useful for navigation, training then properly for navigation and finding a suitable replacement for the Astronomican beacon.
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
Mostly because the tau don't believe in the warp. To them it is an undiscovered science at best. And primitive religeus nonesese at worst. Remember tau are extremely ignorant of the galaxy. They thought that slaanesh was the name of the chaos warband leader.
@holo525
@holo525 Жыл бұрын
Tau don't have Gellar shields during warp travel so bringing psykers into literal he'll on your ship sounds really bad. The psychic aliens in the Tau empire travel space via hibernation while a skeleton crew uses their powers to guide their ships.
@tau-5794
@tau-5794 Жыл бұрын
@@holo525 The Kroot and Nicassar have managed to figure out true warp travel, but the Tau haven't been able to replicate their technology because of its more psychic requirements.
@stefanoputignano1555
@stefanoputignano1555 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure replicating the imperium would work without an equivalent Astronomica light
@Johnson_2022
@Johnson_2022 Жыл бұрын
There is also the very important factor of Tau living far short lives so traveling at such slow speeds affects them far more than a human. For example, a 4 year journey for a Tua is 13% of their 30 year life span. Which results in 11 years worth of aging in human terms who live can live to 85 years without any rejuvenation treatments. So a Tua at the beginning of their prime is more than likely going to be bordering on middle aged by the time they get to the destination, biological speaking. Meaning that they either need to load it up with adolescents and raise them on route or invest heavily into staeus technology which comes with its own problems.
@mrblack5145
@mrblack5145 Жыл бұрын
Tau Void Weapons: Technology and pinpoint accuracy Human Void Weapons: T O O B
@FireRevanShadow
@FireRevanShadow Жыл бұрын
a tau video, this is truly a great day for the greater good
@MultiKeto
@MultiKeto Жыл бұрын
you can spin after the halveway point because you are lighter after the first halve.
@martingreer2714
@martingreer2714 Жыл бұрын
I'm not going to pretend to know very much about 40K I just enjoy listening to the lore videos, so my assumptions might be wildly wrong. However I'd love to know what the Tau ethereal caste would think to learn that the Imperium had lost in the last 10K years more advanced technology than they can even imagine creating, and that they would still utterly dominate them if they happened to view the Tau as a serious threat. Or what they'd think about the Silent King and the Necron reawakening.
@stefanoputignano1555
@stefanoputignano1555 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure they know about the Silent king. The Necron eeeh…on che the Tau woke up a tomb world by being too loud in battle (against orks I think, or the tyranyds maybe) Necron woke up and slaughtered the Tau’s enemies and when the Tau ethereal went to the Necron saying “thank you noble allies we” the Necron shot at him and any Tau on the planet. Then they went to sleep again.
@malaficus
@malaficus Жыл бұрын
They would double there efforts to advance there technology. Tau know they arent as powerful as they hoped but are ignorant of the nature of the warp. Once they find that out however. I suspect a great deal of effort will be made to reverse engineer necron tech. After all. Tau stick is learning technology really fast.
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl Жыл бұрын
Ethereals seem to operate in the same dogmatic thinking as many priests of earth's past or the ecclesiarchy. They refuse to accept any information that challenges their world view or use false assumptions to make it fit their dogma.
@BrotherHood-xh9sg
@BrotherHood-xh9sg Жыл бұрын
Knowledgable old ones in the comment section, I beseech thee once more. Roughly a month ago I asked for some book recommendations and thanks to you all I had a bit of good time. I haven't been able to buy/find all the stories you recommended, but especially the first Chiaphas Cane omnibus was fun. I was also recommend to read some of the old codexes of topics I liked. But that is where my question lies, from what I know, I am mostly interested in Death Korps of Krieg, Sisters of Battle, Trayzen, Dark Angels, Custodes, Daemons, Chaos Space Marines (Nurgle and the Death Guard mostly). Are the new codexes okay to buy for any fun stories or lore about these topics? Are they good and worth it? Basically some advice about the latest codexes about these topics would be greatly appriciated.
@archangel6676
@archangel6676 Жыл бұрын
Ha finally on time for an upload! Im usually YEARS late lmao
@Nomadic_Gaming
@Nomadic_Gaming Жыл бұрын
soon as he said grav shields my brain went to the grav-way meme good meme good times
@vladimirmihnev9702
@vladimirmihnev9702 Жыл бұрын
Close to light speed is the best that is possible in real space! To get to Light speed you need mass × infinity energy! And any lights will be redshirted into high energy gama radiation, that includes far infrared radiation that literally everything is emitting including the ship itself! The ship itself will be extremely radioactive!
@mitchyus
@mitchyus Жыл бұрын
Loyalty is its own reward!
@sparking023
@sparking023 Жыл бұрын
I like how so many aspects of the Tau reflect their position among the 40k factions. They're naive, inexperienced and awfully optimistic about everything, from strategies to design philosophies. In any other setting, they would be a force to be reckoned, but in this universe of shert absurdity, they're just not prepared for what the galaxy at large reserves. And they're yet to bathe in the grimdankness of the future with a major civilization downfall of their own
@toxicmail1482
@toxicmail1482 Жыл бұрын
Greetings Arch!
@killak3219
@killak3219 Жыл бұрын
The little “blueberries” 😭🤣😭🤣
@gamermilk6399
@gamermilk6399 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see Tau team up with pirate orc, eldar, or rogue trader (human) pirates for the hyperdrives if nothing else. It's not like they couldn't help each other out in a bigger Tau coalition ie a friendly empire 😅
@logangrimnar3800
@logangrimnar3800 Жыл бұрын
The Tau reverse engineering Imperial tech realized that any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 Жыл бұрын
Warp engines and gellar are STILL tech and understandable to the imperium, so tech wise tau are far more standardised, but then again they don't have thousands of worlds to feed and 50 different wars to fight, including internal strife.
@hanspeter2384
@hanspeter2384 Жыл бұрын
@@tarektechmarine8209 You describing a very easy friday dont you? I mean, empire and only 50 wars at the same time..... OK a planetary wide conflict ist a war in imperial terminology, more like a litte neihgberhood argument.
@kacpadestro8086
@kacpadestro8086 Жыл бұрын
I like to belive this magic is just sience not understood yet or forgotten but then i renember wh 40k have magic gods :D
@Macaf4r
@Macaf4r Жыл бұрын
I’m a grown ass man “Ohhh Tau what a nice little treat!” Now I gotta do some push ups and cook with fire and shit to guy some of my Man credit back .
@shawnm1902
@shawnm1902 Жыл бұрын
You are making me think your pinky was extended while sipping your drink and enjoying the video.
@Macaf4r
@Macaf4r Жыл бұрын
@@shawnm1902 lol I am drinking tea
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