Are audition programs RIGGED? & CN Blue Lee Jonghyun's Thirst DM's

Are all audition programs rigged? Produce 101 goes through police investigations, and CN Blue's Lee Jonghyun's DMs lead to his ultimate exit from the band..
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[@cairawilliams93]

I never thought about this but what is Danny and David's history?!?! I want a draw my life, I dont even know if they lived in Korea their whole life if they are brothers or lovers...I know nothing... and I've been faithfully watching for years. (Only 1 and a half)

[@delliebby2296]

They aren't brothers. If you've been watching for a year I feel like you would know since they said this not too long ago. Danny, if I'm not mistaken, spent time studying in Canada and China and that's why he knows how to speak English. David studied in the U.S if I remember correctly. They said this in a live a few months ago

[@cairawilliams93]

@@delliebby2296 Thanks, I never watch Live's but ima go look for it. I've only watched for their opinion on the news in the past, but I feel bad not ever thinking about them as more than news personalities in my phone.

[@cairawilliams93]

I am absolutely amazed that Danny and David found eachother in this great big world and created this amazing channel, I always just assumed they were brothers. Their personalities are amazing together. :D

[@allison3289]

If I'm not mistaken I think they also met at college?

[@sarahpadbury]

Definitely. “Draw my Life” for both is needed! Help us, guys! And I wanna know why you both have midwestern accents!

[@megansimon4585]

David is such an optimist while Danny is such a realist.

[@LindaMitchell]

Exactly! I use to be a David but I've become a Danny. I had to take my head out the clouds. I'm still positive but I like being honest with myself.

[@bestatprocrastinating8918]

how to be danny T_T

[@maryjustine9551]

OKEIDOKI correct

[@RequiescatInPace]

David is naive.

[@anonisrose5915]

They balance each other out

[@ashleysavath]

Not necessarily rigged. Just manipulative. These auditions are there to just create drama and gain more views.

[@rheaaulia7803]

David : the agenda of this show is to make everyone start at the equal starting point Me: *shakes head* you poor innocent boy

[@rheaaulia7803]

um yeah i know, i was lamenting at how he seemed surprised by that fact.

[@its4ginas]

Exactly.

[@castrosarabeatricedv.9834]

hihihi i bet he just said that for the show, they always need to be in contrast, for fun :-p

[@step30dub]

Yeah no even in America it’s highly produced they usually take their cues from the audience output. So the fans don’t really get upset especially because in America we expect everything to be produced. It’s probably the same for Korean people they wanna make money.

[@lisascott1170]

David's so pure.

[@FreshIllumi]

*that noob Lee Jong Hyun needs to learn how to respectfully pick-up girls from Danny, the pick-up master*

[@irishgrl]

Fresh Illumi FOUND YA!

[@0wan28]

Found you! 😂

[@estie4930]

😭

[@lolkatbear]

😂😂😂

[@shauna8899]

😂😂

[@mohammadmurtaza277]

Does this mean I can DM Danny and tell him how cute his bald head used to be

[@laurenme9512]

Mohammad Murtaza I screamed 😂😂

[@pleaseparkjimininmygarage-6212]

lmao

[@pleaseparkjimininmygarage-6212]

The best comment ever, for real

[@MissyChezoovy]

Do it!

[@0.0mviews98]

It’s not funny nor should you make a comparative statement as a joke. The women had a concern bc lee jonghyun was showing repetitive predatory behavior. Men are always dismissive of this. No wonder society has so many unnamed victims of sexual assault.

[@shaniceabdou910]

Honestly, seeing her content she probably get send these kind of messages all of the time. If they're creepy, she deletes them, ignores them. But knowing homeboy's history with watching hidden sex cameras and the way he talks about women... The creep factor got through the roof; and let's not forget that he was supposed to be reflecting . I understand your point of view for the DMs, when I read about it, I thought it was ridiculous that THIS is why he had to quit the group and not you know.... However, you can't help to view all of his actions with women, like those DMs, as weirdly sexual. As a woman, I wouldn't want to be involved with him in the slightest either

[@aylayzrianne]

Yes, exactly. This guy might even be trying to make her the next victim in the next groupchat since he doesn't seem to really regret it. Thinking about it like that is creepy and scary to me.

[@misxfitx]

i mean, reflecting isn't just for children. when someone goes to jail for a crime, it's supposed to be time for them to reflect om their actions so they can be like "oh i did this and it put me in this situation i don't like so I shouldn't do it again". adults need to be disciplined too lol

[@shaniceabdou910]

@@misxfitx What I meant by refecting when it comes to korean celebrities was pretty much cursing them into a hiatus; like the Tiffany situation and the Japanese flag (not similar in anyway btw). I understand the idea of reflecting and ofc it is a good thing, they way they do it in Korea tho has always came across as if they were doing it to a kid; "go to your room and get out of my face for the time being". But, I see where you come from and I think I'll edit the comment since it came across as adults can't be held accountable for their actions . Have a nice day fellow nctzen

[@mohinirawat828]

I totally agree

[@yayajacobs9727]

Na. This seems more like her trying to get publicity over a totally innocuous comment. Shameless. Leave true harassment accusations for real cases.

[@BudderChezMC]

Ideally produce 101 would be a platform created to make a fair platform for idol trainees. But the world revolves around money whether we would like it to or not. The Produce 101 staff is trying to entertain people and make profit off of it. I definitely agree that they probably have a rough idea who is going to be in the group before the show starts.

[@tapaijahill9897]

right i was thinking about somi who alot of people said she only won bc she was a popular jyp trainee, which is sad

[@ilikefoodcrazy]

The rough idea approach isnt wrong, they look at statics to deem who would pool in the most viewers and give them more screentime. Its only when they see a massive spike in a trainee fan count midway, they will get more air. Its only natural in this cruel survival show of 101, that the one fail to have a well known company, or havent caught interest in the public by the first ep will fail. Produce 101 is an instant boy group to make money, they dont have time to see growth in popularity.

[@CARATMom]

American Idol is “rigged”-most reality shows are. It is hard to produce an audition show in a timely manner and make it entertaining. If the purpose of Produce 101 was to actually identify talent they wouldn’t just disband groups a year after debut.

[@shaniceabdou910]

Fun fact; there are actualy almost 30 people in NCT, just 9 short. But in like 3 years they will be 30

[@Enlightened08]

OMG I swear. Mark will still be in every damn subunit lol Poor kid never gets a break.

[@unknown6551]

Enlightened Sista won’t be in dream ever again tho😢

[@soomi]

Actually next year like 6-8 more will join NCT U and NCT DREAM alone. They're also going to create a whole new sub-group for another country as well. So next year NCT will be 30 already lol.

[@Enlightened08]

@@unknown6551 Yea he's an adult now, no more Dream. He's in Super M now. Poor kid just finished touring with 127 and they are like hey buddy, I want to put you in ANOTHER group haha.

[@shaniceabdou910]

@@soomi You think so? Honestly, I have no idea, but it is exciting to see what Sm has in store for NCT. Because the last 2 years they added 3 members each time I figured you know

[@midnight_sakura1263]

David trying to be the king of justice and danny just opens reality on him, poor david

[@leidybach982]

The fact is that he's being criticized because off his past comment, this comment doesn't really is that harsh, but knowing how he veiw woman and how he talked about them and treated them, is hard not to be uncomfortable because you already know this person hidden intentions

[@Mariajbh2]

True

[@aylayzrianne]

Yes! The comment itself, minus his background, is cringey but like whatever who cares. It's this comment + those cursed chatlogs. He might even be trying to make her the next victim of his hidden cam. It's so scary.

[@rainb0wpiie]

i thought the exact same thing! no woman would want a message from him after what he has done in that group chat lol

[@KO-wn6ut]

L M It's very hard to ignore his past and not be cautious of him when he was involved with a group of guys who filmed their sexual encounters with women without their consent. It's completely understandable to be wary of him

[@Crescentmoon0701]

@@KO-wn6ut I think you got confused about your facts. It was Jung Joon young who spy cams his sex escapades and Lee Jonghyun watched it because it was sent to him. Then made some nasty and derogatory comments about the vid and some girls. The police said he'll be questioned as a witness and not as a suspect. Yeah... So, there.

[@mrs_rover]

Excuse me why is no one congratulating the DKDK Kings on their documentary you fakes

[@maryjustine9551]

Congratulations I’m not fake I’m late🤣

[@karenrobles6878]

yes when is this doc coming out? what is happening? quaaaaaaaaaaaaack

[@isszzy1208]

I there doing a documentary on BTS... I say this bc I saw it already

[@veronicamorales]

lmao sorry david but i gotta agree with danny on this one about audition shows. these auditions shows are not meant to be fair, the producers do what they do just for entertainment and to get more views i guess. i mean yeah the purpose of this show FOR the contestants is to get exposure and show their talents and get noticed but at the end of the day, the producers only care about making killer content for the korean audience and that will always be the main focus for them

[@veeinh]

veronica David is always naive and sees the world optimistically. While Danny sees how fucked up the world really works

[@woepan]

I have to agree with Danny on the Produce thing For example the 4th season of Produce X 101 Kim Yohan (center in X1) got screen time from the very first beginning and was in the top 10 the whole time It was obvious that he would debut. Same goes for Son Dongpyo and Song Hyeongjun. They got a lot of screen time because they were cute and innocent. Kim Wooseok is also a good example. He's handsome and already had his debut in UP10TION which means he has a big fanbase. But there are some exceptions (Idk if it's just this year) For example Lee Hangyul or Cho Seungyoun who got almost no screen time in the very beginning and had to work themselves up in Top 20. Seungyoun went from rank 67 to rank 5 and that mostly because he's loud, extra and has a lot of talents I still can't explain how Hangyul made it since he really wasn't popular. And then there is Kang Minhee. The song Pretty Girl saved him. He was the main vocalist and he was in a team with only cute and popular trainee's. Without Pretty Girl he would have been out. There are a lot of cases which I could talk a lot about but that would take too long. Summarized: I also think that they knew that some trainees would make it into the final line up (the visuals mostly) but I also think that there are some trainee's who worked themselves up and gain attention and screen time. Also sorry for grammar or spelling mistakes. English is not my first language

[@adampilget6158]

Yes it was really obvious wid yohan cuz he always was in top 5 at least ,dopyo and hyeongen

[@doras277]

Clrwoepan hangyul was popular he also had a following because he was previously shown in a different survival show, The Unit. They wouldn’t show him a lot in the beginning of produce x 101 but he then later started getting more screen time. & as mentioned he also has more of a noona following. He attracts fans that are into more of that sporty, sexy type of guy.

[@woepan]

@@doras277 yeah you're right. I also think Hangyul has definitely his charms but I can't remember him having that much screen time as Yohan or Dongpyo.

[@brendatomines8171]

So sad cause Hangyul is my bias, but I agreed, and I think that one thing that made him more popular during the show, was his interactions with dohyun and Seungyeon.

[@adampilget6158]

@@doras277 yes, hangyul was popular to b part of x1 . I wonder how cha junho and minhee, and dohypo became part of x1, I wonder is it because junho was always in team with yohan giving him screentime

[@PedroHenrique-bf2vb]

i think the girl posted that on her stories cuz she doubted that it was really this idol and it ended up going the way it went and she just went with the flow u know

[@ghadir2389]

omg this is exactly what I thought

[@yentl]

Saaaame, like she was waiting for others to tell her that the IG profile was, indeed, from him and that it wasn’t her getting trolled or smth.

[@ericale8517]

Jonghyun's "little" dm incident is just the straw that broke the camel's back. Even though this incident was "small" relative to his past actions, it pushed people to finally have enough of jonghyun.

[@vhynne62789]

Honestly speaking the girl show her belly fat and I'm 100% sure that she received a lot of DM's about it, but because that cnblue guy has a past issue it becomes a big deal,

[@chibitamashi8893]

Show by show I realize that David is just too pure to be realistic .-.

[@khadijak5464]

Tbh he's been outed for being a misogynistic pervert previously, we know that he is like that so him dming the livestreaming lady directly about her body is weird. If it was just a normal remark he would've just commented on her video or livestream from a non public fan account or something but he directly dmmed her like it was cute. The woman probably felt uncomfortable because of his identity and actions.

[@peachdeku6660]

Alliteration or something that’s what I was thinking, the dm itself isn’t that creepy but when you put in context of what he’s said and done before it gives you the creeps and she probably felt that way too

[@kylab8395]

I honestly kind of agree with both of you about the CNBlue guy, but I don’t think it so much that people think what he did is horrible, it more that this just reminded them that he existed and that he really should’ve been fired months ago, because the other things he accused of are truly horrible

[@balloonuhu]

the comment Danny read about Lee Jong Hyun had me ROLLING!!! Jeez the dude who left the comment should be a comedic writer for SNL.

[@valeriat8515]

Why do they remind me of icarly ? lol Danny as Sam and David as Carly. Also, I agree with Danny about the competition shows. It happens on American TV competitions too. They always focus on the more interesting people.

[@ad_kk16]

American Idol is that way. Kelly Clarkson knew she was going to win. They plan things and want certain things. The voting system was kinda weird too. All for entertainment. It's been in the film/TV industry for a long time now. Even in real auditions. They want a certain person. Whether that be actual talent or for the looks. It actually happens quite a lot

[@xxxfairycorpsexxx7592]

Danny looks like Prince Eric in this

[@shamamallick2710]

03 Cyber Tuna I know right. The colour white suits him.

[@sam-os4em]

Divorce drama ?? May be Next week.

[@DKDKTV]

We filmed too early :(

[@sam-os4em]

@@DKDKTV No worries.. until then more episodes will be aired ;)

[@fujitsunomizu]

Goo Hye sun - Ahn Jae Hyun created better drama than Blood.

[@em8842]

That whole situation is messy AF, maybe it's for the best. This way DKDK get another week to soak in all the drama that's still being fanned from both sides before they make up their mind lmao

[@cheryldailey5310]

Her friends and family need to keep her away from social media. I feel the more she tries to make her husband look bad the more she looks desperate and off balance. It is very sad.

[@kayjmac42]

What I would like to know is other comments she got on that particular video. Did others slide into her DM's and leave the same type of comments, but since they were not famous she didn't highlight them? Also this definitely may be cultural difference but I don't put stock in those 'reflecting' statements these Korean celebrities use when caught in acts the public find distasteful. Unless you are getting professional help to understand why you do those things and then learn how to stop doing them, then all that 'reflecting' is bullshit and you're just waiting for the public to forgive and forget. Once they have you just go back to being you but sneakier so you don't get caught.

[@SirenRising]

kayjmac42 if she did get similar messages from others she didn’t highlight them because she doesn’t know if they have a history of being perverts & watching illegal spycams that were filmed without the woman’s consent. With his past actions in mind it’s right to be wary of him & his intentions esp when she ignored him the first time & he comes back messaging her again. Public is probably outraged because he was allowed to get away with his disgusting behavior months ago “to reflect” but he’s still out here acting like a creep. So now he has to be fired. Should’ve been fired & jailed originally instead of being allowed to “reflect”

[@hoanhuynh7059]

Rochelle Smith jail? Are you kidding me? Did he kill someone? His behavior is his business and nobody else.

[@SmilesAndSmilyFaces]

honestly tho how are you gonna give 101 people equal screen time in a program with 11 episodes

[@elliekoutras3529]

All if a sudden Danny and David start getting DMs about their belly fat😂

[@sofypi7493]

that girl doesn't have any belly fat, it's just her skin

[@desyputrisetiani6126]

Sofy Pi she shows her belly fat in her YT chanel. That's why LJH said that

[@aiforus]

You guys have brought up great "Pro vs. Con" views that I think shed light on the issues. Keep up the good work!!!! Thanks.

[@monxampion6930]

This is some quality editing honestly I laughed so much at the slide thing at 0:40😂😂 Sarah i hope you see this💕

[@BB-wc7fg]

oh and well done on your Documentary! can't wait to hear about it

[@atrapadosenelkpop]

That guy Jonghyun I though he was already in prison 👀

[@kuraimegami_rica]

I don't know in what country people would have to go to prison for watching sex videos... that'd be ridiculous

[@rossland5024]

@@kuraimegami_rica they are illegal spycams. I cant believe you.

[@CDee08]

That girl who made a fuss with Lee Jonghyun's DM is a hypocrite. Her content isn't even decent and yet she felt uncomfortable for such comments? Wow, the nerve of this girl is so 🙄🙄🙄. I am not a fan of that man and I am well aware of his involvement to the JJY Chatroom scandal, but doesn't mean he's always at fault. That woman is thirsty for some fame and attention. She should be feeling proud and flattered since someone famous noticed her and watches her content, in contrary to what she claims "uncomfortable".. Woman, don't act innocent, your body language and video contents doesn't reflect any of that. SMH 🙄🙄🙄 Those people praising her for what she did, what the hell? Seriously? You guys are blinded. Damn 🙄 I won't feel for her nor pity her in any way. Her actions are louder than her words. 🙄🙄🙄

[@ruby994]

That's the same thing as what all talent shows do like Britain's got talent - there are first video auditions because of course the judges cant judge tens of thousands of people so it has to be slimmed down to people who are really talented, have potential or are really bad to make the show more entertaining/ funny. The point of TV shows is to provide entertainment so of course they're gonna choose people who would make the show more entertaining.

[@Mariajbh2]

It's a entertaintment show not a academy

[@yl7578]

I heard that some shows do like auditions before they do the “auditions” in tv. That’s why the “auditions” ep have only a few people.

[@TrivonikaQuintrellDemary]

Great video I need to watch you guys more

[@WeAreSMC96]

Regarding the cnblue guy, the streamer prolly get tons of DMs like that(if not more explicit even) every single day with the type of content she makes. The guy's DM is prolly one of the lightest out of all lol. If he was just a random guy that wouldn’t have been taken offensively BUT that being said, he ain't that and being involved in JJY's case couldn’t have made him stood out even more. He shoulda been MORE careful is what im saying lol. Good for the streamer for not putting up with him though, worse coulda happened if she'd let it slide.

[@TheHardKandee]

I love you guys !!!!!!! 💜💜💜💜

[@peterjohnson4854]

What is NCT? A male college dorm in the making....

[@bestatprocrastinating8918]

Best Korean news siteever. Like i don't even watch Knews if it's not from DKDKTV

[@soumiatl8331]

Produce 101 is clearly not a fair competition show i feel like the producers of the show have a list of the top trainees that they're putting their eyes on them for the look talent or cuteness to give them more screen time.

[@Firefly-ie3qc]

David is the embodiment of , "oh, my sweet summer child" .

[@hikariuchiha977]

these videos are the highlight on my week XD

[@morganpiippo7176]

I love how David and Danny can debate with each other but not end up killing each other the world needs more of that

[@cheryldailey5310]

I was a bit shocked to hear about people DMing David in that way. I guess because I would feel weird about DMing someone I don't know that way. Good show! (Even with the added documentary pressure)

[@kiwitealc5353]

I was surprised as well. I hope that people aren't making him too uncomfortable.

[@lauraskinger-laylosdivas3799]

Love your hair Danny!!!!

[@madeinbusanjkjm]

Honestly, saying to the girl that he likes her belly fat is not nearly as gross as those messages he was writing to Jung Joon-young. He should be more reprimanded for those than for that one belly fat DM.

[@madeinbusanjkjm]

I love the way Danny's mind works.....he is a bit of a genius tbh. Also.....I watched some video some time ago that was talking about some girl singer that apparently lost against Somi in one of such shows despite having better vocals by far. Some theories were that the votes were a bit rigged because the producers were scared of the public's reaction if the other singer won against Somi (cause apparently Somi has a lot of passionate fans). I don't know it that is true but if it is, it's super sad. I mean having a fan base is crucial of course but the vocal ability should still come first in my opinion. If it's a TALENT competition, they should judge them on their talent not popularity.

[@dolmalhamo9513]

I'm just gawked.. While hearing these news but at the same time I'm laughing out so loud that you guys are discussing... Lot's fun... 😂😂

[@mariaodroniec1871]

u both are dope af

[@hapacalgirl]

I am so glad they created that channel because when I first got into kpop in 1998-99 it was so hard to find anything about kpop because there wasn't youtube or easy access to performances for international fans on the internet so definitely going to check that channel out . I think some of the audition programs are rigged to an extent, but how much differs between the show. Some shows have pretty obvious vote rigging but editing of shows and choice of participants also is targeted to the type of group they want. If you watch the produce series you can pretty much guess early on who is in the final group based on screen time.

[@audreystewart6442]

Omygosh y’all are so funny!!

[@0.0mviews98]

I think that woman was brave to release the dm to protect other women. Women need to protect each other from sexual assault and predatory behavior. The victims are still testifying in court. The chatroom participants should be either jailed or live privately to reflect.

[@desyputrisetiani6126]

0.0M views but why she only publish jonghyun's dm ? At her recent YT, She said that she receive alot of vulgar comment. And some people sent her his dick. It's weird

[@0.0mviews98]

Desy Putri it’s weird that a man who allegedly got prostitutes and admittedly was in a group chat watching spy cameras with alleged unconscious victims. is now social media shooting his shot. To my knowledge those unconscious/rape victims are allegedly still in court testifying. It’s weird that this brave women had to defend herself when she felt uncomfortable or triggered with this man’s unwanted, unanswered dms due to his past predatory behavior. We don’t know how she protects herself on a daily basis against predators so let’s not assume. But what is really weird is society is so quick to blame the women due to her appearance and objectify her saying she deserves harassing comments based on her content. Nobody deserve to be harassed. Comparatively making light about the situation just like in the infamous chatroom. That’s why victims of assault don’t speak up. God bless all the victims, including her. She is worth defending ,this ex-cnblue lee whatever his name idiot is not. He can live privately now and then God be his final judge.

[@kuraimegami_rica]

@@0.0mviews98 His CEO was never even talked about in that whole mess. Also he was not in that group chat and he wasn't even close to where the women got raped. You're mixing up some stuff here. Not saying watching hidden cameras is something to be proud of, but that's a whole different level to raping someone.

[@0.0mviews98]

Kuraimegami Rica some of those hidden videos were of unconscious women? Were there prostitution? You’re picking apart my words-Semantics. It’s disgusting. That comment says that she receives other inappropriate dm so what’s the big deal for her to receive one from this man showing predatory behavior is awful. It’s all gross. God bless the victims. That’s all.

[@kuraimegami_rica]

@@0.0mviews98 Some yea. Do you know which videos he saw? I don't. Also not saying it's a great thing to watch any of those videos, but watching a video is not a crime. Filming it or raping someone is. There's a very big difference.

[@mekhaladighe9480]

Danny your hair looks especially good in this video!

[@shaimaelys2856]

My 2 favourite guys on KZbin 💜💜💜💜💜

[@KRISGALAXY]

I have been into Kpop since I was 12 now I am 23 and still into it. I think the audition programs are more or less pre-planned I mean at the end of the day it’s just for entertainment and to make money. But at the same time as viewers we do get the opportunity to get glims of some well talented trainees that unfortunately don’t make it but at least it’s some sort of a platform for them to be known and some do gain popularity due to the support of the online fans. It’s it’s a bit of a mix feelings for me tbh like it’s sad but at the same time I get to find gems that I fall in love with. DKDK♥️♥️

[@kunalijawas]

I am so early that ...it didn't even started🤣🤣...... meanwhile when will u cover......have u seen BigHit global audition video??..

[@WeAreSMC96]

Because often times i find myself enjoying the produce series a lot and never thought about how could they produce a live/ongoing series with coherent storyline throughout the whole series. When danny said that, all the "unfair", "biased" cutscenes(that people tends to complain a lot, too lol) starting to make sense. You can find more than 80% of the trainees that gets lots of screentime always end up in the debut group. Its quite fascinating how these producers play with our emotions just like that lol.

[@r.9447]

The *ONLY* fair audition program that exist is "super band"

[@aurorabu784]

Yasss!!!!

[@nukitachan]

Hahahah "carefully moderate"! But yes I agree on the fact that the editing would be deffinitely easier if they know whos going to win. Especially coming from Cj. And that is probably a reason for the second I.O.I still had a show. Cause maybe some of the "planned" final IOI membets didnt made it to the final. And people still connencted to them (possible example: g-idle's soyeon).

[@yayajacobs9727]

I don't see anything wrong with Lee Jon Hyung's DMs to the KZbinr. Geez. The previous issue, yes, that was an issue.

[@danielangoko]

Can someone make a loop of Danny and David saying Raw. Please I need it in my life 😂

[@jaguy4u2]

Is Danny dating ?cause he's been looking really good/hot lately..or is it just me ?🤔

[@madeinbusanjkjm]

I feel the same way. His haircut at the moment really suits him.

[@gaby5254]

I agree with Danny on everything today.

[@tftsheepcup]

It makes sense to focus on the talent or the people that will be more interesting (interesting back stories, popular with vieweres.) Also, if you notice, certain trainees (for example, Kang Daniel) got not a lot of camera time in the first couple episodes, but starts to get a lot more once the producers probably realized he was popular and people wanted to see him. Some trainees who didnt make it also got a lot of camera time, so I think its more to do with trying to show more of the issue makers or popular trainees rather than only the trainees they know will make it into the final lineup. I think it has elements of manipulation but I do think it cannot be 100% rigged. I mean if the popular vote didnt affect the final lineup, I dont think the final lineup would have been as popular as they were.

[@vespa2223]

David's innocent perspective may seem very naive, but as a 60 year old, I am happy to see a young person who is not jaded. (But all these audition shows, in the US especially, are manipulated for views.) I feel bad for LJH. Young men everywhere do stupid things, especially when in groups. In the US, what he has done would be worthy of a slap on the wrist; not the destruction of his career. Maybe all countries need to educate youth about appropriate boundaries. As for the young woman, I think what he said could not possibly have genuinely offended her. She is the one who was deriding herself, he (and I am sure many others) was trying to say supportive things. Thanks for the good content and debate, guys!

[@Natalia91]

I totally agree with Danny about the Audition shows. It’s obvious that they create stories about people and edit it to make it entertaining. And that makes the votes shift to the people who they show more... and if they see someone is gaining popularity for some reason, they will start editing it so that people will have more screen time and people will be happy about it. Audition shows could only be fair if they were live without anybody editing it, since these Korean shows are pre recorded and sometimes were recorded weeks before, they will definitely have to edit to make a interesting story to the audience.

[@sabiriinosman3613]

i get what he was tryna saying about produce - they fix the show and give screentime to who they think will increase their ratings

[@AntTonyLOLKID]

I am doing film, and did syncing the audio to video. I imagined how hard it would be for produce to do all 101 video and audio together ontop of the MCs, producers and judges

[@starsrox7427]

14:00 Im shook. I agree that what he said to the KZbinr is not bad. However, the reason why the girl felt harassed and everybody is being harsh on him is because of his past behavior. He is a grown adult saying and doing unacceptable things for years. He is suddenly not gonna become a better person. He showed us what he capable is and thats why girls are scared and as they or the woman in this case should. I had chills in my bones when Lee Jonghyun and everyone in Seungri’s group chat were laughing, talking and ADMITTING about RAPE as if it was normal. So, I really really do not understand how he still was in the group and got the oppurtunity to “reflect.” Its saddening and scary that only two people from the group chat are facing trial.

[@watchdafanny]

This video was hilarious. I needed that laugh. People are suckers for Nostalgia so I'm not surprised that channel is doing so well. I was with Danny about Produce 101. They are looking for talent that will make viewers tune in and cause drama and such for ratings. Like with American Idol, the singers have to go thru the producers first before they go thru to judges. And the producers will let the really bad singers on because it will make good TV. Maybe Produce 101 shouldn't make it so obvious next time. 😂 Danny that white shirt looks good on you. Another great episode guys!

[@moonmoni3187]

Okay, but why do you two look dis good 😯🙃

[@tamannaroy1205]

no reality show is realistic, its all about drama and trp 😂😂

[@yootoobsamantha]

I agree with Danny, audition programs are just a show. It's presented like it is supposed to be fair, but they are literally produced by a company with a lot at stake in the winners.

[@crisostimo100]

Sarah, keep on keeping on. #MyFavKpopNewsShow #DKDKTVisMagas

[@moochie8296]

If someone like jonghyun talked to me in DM just saying HI, knowing his history ill be HELLA SCARED AND DISGUSTED.. The girl did nth wrong. Of course after all the shit he is involved with if he message any girl they'll be scared.

[@ekai4791]

I slightly agree with Danny on the audition programming. Not just in Kpop / Korea but in America too: American Idol, AGT, World of Dance every auditioning show has preferences for who they allow in the show. Like the sad story will be picked over the good singer with no juicy background...even in the Voice the singers are usually ones who have been in the industry longer and are known to bring a fan base. It’s an entertainment platform before it’s an opportunity show/audition program. & DM’ng someone based on the physical attributes they themselves have pointed out is literally not an issue. I think his past wrongs made everyone judge him more harshly on something that’s pretty normal & not, I think, harassment. Great video! You guys are a little blurry tho 🤔😊

[@ILoveSoonkyu]

I agree with Danny. Just look at the episodes. It's obvious. Those who are always shown will most likely to be the one who is going to debut. I noticed it when I watched PD48.

[@taetae-lm8ro]

regarding talent shows, it is impossible to share the screen time equally between 101 trainees. I think during auditions producers are making a wild guess on who will become popular but also they want to show whatever is entertaining so it kinda is as well up to the contestant to show "charm" and talent that is entertaining. After first episodes i think they look at the feedback on who's popular and then redistribute the screen time accordingly. In terms of voting I think it is weird for ppl to wonder if it's rigged when the reaction i've seen are "best lineup ever''..

[@LilyTheZummer]

I wanna watch this but I'm in class. And professor staring me down

[@bts.persona.purpled8946]

3:06 Right now it's like ten layers of, "I don't know" 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♂️😊

[@christapata]

David's argument of audition shows should be fair is what these programs want viewers to think and Danny's argument is the reality.

[@AMower9796]

They do start on an equal footing, but the audience can see talent just as much as the producers beforehand. The talented ones may get more edited air time if a producer likes them, but there are always voting surprises too. The absolute rigged ones are things like #MAMA when certain nominees should obviously win, but suddenly don't get votes on the board bc they aren't attending the award show that year. Like #Zico last year who had an amazing year but wasn't attending... or #IU the year before... or #BlackPink in 2018...

[@danceidol2011]

You are right. It is hard for 101 trainees to have enough screen time for an hour episode. If you wanted it to be fair, the show have to have three hours per episode just to show everyone. IMO, All the trainees were doomed from the start. Some of the debut line did not get any screen time, and they made it. Producers look at the voting page and see which trainees are handsome/pretty. Is it really Mnet or the Producers fault? Sure, Mnet could have manipulated the votes, but do not punished the final line ups. They all deserves it. As for MAMA, that award show is rigging everyone. That is based on how big the groups fandom is. When your fandom is small, then there is not a chance to win any of those awards. Which is sad, because some groups deserve better.

[@kelseymcguire4165]

Stuffed animals: *in focus* Background: *in focus* Hosts: *out of focus*

[@DKDKTV]

I hate Sony

[@bluevirgo86]

This has always been the formula of audition shows. If you look at American Idol where millions come. They focus the screen time on some good ones and some bad ones but gradually they focus on 50 that goes into the elimination rounds. If you look back you can see singers like Kelly Clarkson and Adam Lambert , they have a spark and talent was league's ahead of the others.

[@bluevirgo86]

The show is also edited in a way that we see more of the candidates that are likely to succeed. The more we see them the more likely we are going to vote for them

[@091eyeris091]

First of all “Thirst-DMing” is freaking gold so I’m using it. I do think that it was blown out of proportion in terms of the content of what he said but I can also understand how it is a sensitive time and he should be on like “sexual lockdown-male-chastity-belt mentality” (to the public anyways). I don’t watch her channel but if you’re a public figure and make a video wearing a swimsuit you should maybe expect comments that might make you feel uncomfortable. It’s not right by any means but you have to have enough sense to anticipate something like that or worse... Second, in regards to audition shows I agree that it SHOULD be about equality and fairness but the reality is that the show producers probably already know who’s gonna win. The problem with shows that have a long run is that it tends to lose that organic nature it stared out with and becomes extremely commercialized-it kind of “loses its magic” (in America: American Idol & So You Think You Can Dance have become this way in my opinion)

[@MingukFilms]

Based on SIXTEEN, I think they are rigged to a certain point... there are members who are certainly going to make it, but then there are some that have a chance to catch the audience's eyes and then they make it based on the show for real... but yeah, I really believe some of them are certain for the group no matter what, even before the show starts.

[@MingukFilms]

For example, the old trainees such as Jihyo, Nayeon... they were obviously ready so they would make it anyway, but Tzuyu for example, she wasn't even that good but the audience would always vote for her and choose her so JYP had to put her in the group!

[@MingukFilms]

@Lollywhoistotally NOTaloli Yes! Exactly! It was a show to boost their popularity, they were already planned to debut, but like I said, some of them made it BECAUSE of the show, because of real votes...

[@mishalee1004]

I got a X1 ad before this video started i-

[@romyenrose]

The camera focusing on the ducks in the front rather than Danny and David for some reason is funny to me.

[@ngawhetutai3284]

i fucking love this channel bro quaker for life hahaah

[@sekararumsukarna]

.. i completely agree and get what danny means about "producing" the talents and focusing on certain contenders .. thats what i think too when i watch such talents shows .. not only produced 101 ,, but everything ,, including american shows like idols and/or masterchefs etc etc ..

[@angelarmy67]

Wish i got that tickets ~,~)/ *Anyway which tv station doin the documentary and where or when it will be aired tho? Gurls want to watch* XD

[@gudetama552]

Imagine realising that you entered 101 with never having a chance Unless all the trainess know who will win at the end

[@mohinirawat828]

Dm-ing about cute belly isn't sexual harassing .its really funny that he left bcoz of this incident 🙄

[@sosodreams]

wait congrats on the documentary????? damn i wanna see that

[@Nommma2808zizi]

❤❤❤❤

[@mohammadmurtaza277]

Also I agree that audition programs are planned, even in the US. I auditioned for the X Factor season 3 personally a few years ago and the production team only interviewed/gave more screen time to people that fit a specific image that they knew would draw people. I'm sure in the case of these idol audition shows as well it's nothing personal, just that the production team has an agenda to get more viewership and they do what they think will get them a more cohesive narrative to tell

[@Sticklemako]

I'm with David in this... Auditions cant be prechosen

[@Kibashixx39]

Lmao I literally stopped the video and went to check out SBS Kpop Classic channel. Def does not disappoint! c:

[@Pschokid]

So many shows seems ridged. Like ink master USA season 1, I regret watching it because in the end it was so clear it was ridged