Are Autistics Morally Superior?

Often times you hear people say that autistics have a strong sense of justice, or that they seem to be more honest and moral than the general population.
And I decided to chat about this topic after I saw someone online say “I have a strong sense of justice, so I would never do something wrong like that”
Which made me realize there’s still some confusion on what it means to say autistics have a ‘strong sense of justice’, or a strong moral compass, because spoiler alert, it doesn’t mean we are morally superior, and it definitely doesn’t mean we are always RIGHT.
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[@ElMoonLite]

Hi Jen, shame I can only give the one like. This was a very welcome message, and from what I've seen, a very needed message. I had a few points I would like to add to the conversation. Most points are useful to be aware of in communication and conflict between neurotypical vs neurodivergent, neurodivergent vs neurodivergent, and even neurotypical vs neurotypical. We all have different experiences, different knowledge, different views. It is hard to come to the same conclusion if we do not have the same information. I find that if you manage to show your point of view, or try to see someone else's point of view, it is much easier to realize you might not be right, come to the same conclusion, or at least come to a middle ground. The above holds true for both neurotypical and neurodivergent people, but between the two chances are we start from different information and it takes more effort to come to common ground. I think autistic people are naturally more inclined to figure out someone else's point of view. Always trying to fit in, always trying to understand other people's point of view. While autistic people can seem quite opinionated, I find that when I am among autistic people they tend to be more open and understanding to new ideas. When we do find conflicted, we tend to use reason to convince the other party. In doing so we also bring up new information the other part might not have been aware of or thought relevant. With this new information, I find we are more likely to come to a middle ground, or at least entertain the possibility we might not know enough to be so sure of ourselves. NB: Open to new ideas is NOT to be confused with open to new plans, as that can require a whole lot of overthinking said new plans with consequenses and so completely overwhelming us. A negative effect of all above, is that whenever there is friction with other people, a different point of view, or something I perceive as injustice to me or others, I tend to completely drain myself trying to figure out their point of view. Trying to figure out what I am missing that the other person is coming to that conclusion. Chances are, their conclusion might not even be logical, and I can keep looking for answers that are not there. I know I go to great lengths as a people pleaser (as many autistic people seem to do), often without them knowing I do, or even want me to. So me trying to figure out their point of view can completely drain me.

[@Samsam-vv3uc]

This is so me (too)

[@srldwg]

Well put! I relate to this alot. The other side of the coin is not considering the other person's point of view at all. Only focusing on our point of view (at times). This can make compromise not happen (even someone meeting 15%, it's none at all.) I don't consider this the same as boundaries. Boundaries can become a gray area and compromise can happen if someone is willing to be a little flexible, and not have to bend 100% in one person's direction. Compromise doesn't mean the person gets disturbed or their needs aren't honored. It is a discussion considering the other party and ways the boundaries can be honored while the other party gets some of what they want. This goes the other way when someone is people pleasing. Speaking up and expressing a boundary can be tough. It is important though. Once the individual gets the ability to speak up, they can listen to the thoughts of the other person without feeling invalidated if they remain open minded. Then they can weigh out what the person expressed. They have drawn the boundary, while considering the wants of the other party. Yes, some become absolute "no's", until they accidentally get crossed (no ill intent), where the understanding of no ill intent can allow the person to be calmer and more rational about things. Theory of mind and mind blindness come into play here too. Struggling with these, it can become "The way that I see it is the way it is." "I am the only one who feels this way." "I care more than they do because the way they see it doesn't look like they care." Sometimes rigidity can close ones ears to listening to and processing that others thoughts, feelings, opinions, ideas can be considered in a respectful way. They are not trying to cancel out our thoughts, feelings, opinions, ideas - they are trying to explain theirs and we can consider and add them to our knowledge.

[@GraceBrooks-zy3ms]

This is such a good video, with some parts that made me verrey uncomfortable lol I'm definitely guilty. I don't know the story of Thanos, but I will say that I blame certain scary billionaires' narcissism and psychopathy far more than any autistic traits they may or may not possess. I agree we have to stick together and not fight amongst ourselves ❤

[@whitneymason406]

I appreciate you covering this! I hate blanket statements. Autism is a spectrum condition and therefore everyone experiences it differently. Also, autism can also co-occur with personality disorders. Great video!

[@PatchworkDragon]

I love the Thanos example. Just because you are very dedicated to your beliefs doesn't mean you are on the right side.

[@ThisisPam]

I definitely saw this in myself and others on the spectrum during covid. Rigid, assertive calls for action or accountability, fuelled by righteous indignation, a strong sense of injustice, and firm logical reasoning. On both sides of that fence. Now that I understand myself and others better, I can compassionately relate to what was going on inside us. And also do a little of 😬 and 🙄

[@dftones19]

My sense of justice triggers my PDA. If at work and don’t agree with what I’m asked to do, I refuse to do it. Sometimes lack of common sense will trigger PDA. So if someone asks me to do something I find inefficient, I refuse unless they explain logically why it’s necessary. Simplify the process!

[@linam.9675]

yes to that

[@tracik1277]

@@linam.9675yes to both of you

[@sharonaumani8827]

That's what finally caused my own humiliating melt down at work, causing me to leave for good [which was actually a needed thing; I just didn't know how I would be able to get around staying there].

[@clockworkzen]

lol. First time viewer and fellow neurodivergent, had to click on the video as watching 'ND content' has been in my wheelhouse lately since getting my autism diagnosis last year. Great video! good message. Just because you're more aware of injustices than other people due to being ND, doesn't mean your sense of justice *is correct*. Y'all might be getting twisted over things that aren't actually unfair to the majority, or the society you're participating in at the time. Morality being subjective, people of all flavors need to add an extra 'double check if my moral compass is correct, whatever that means' step in their passionate reasoning before taking actions they could severely regret or may cause harm to others; or both, like Thanos. Subbed due to the obviously neurodivergent humor at the end, and overly relatable experience of accidentally brushing into a tree and apologizing to it though it's obviously unharmed. And also a tree, which rarely tend to care about human ideas of sympathy and compassion.

[@jimwilliams3816]

I have seen it said that the sense of fair/unfair develops in children first, and that rationales for morality develop from that. I think that is, to a degree, the basis for the distinction between a moral code and the sense of justice you are describing. The latter is where the strongest emotions lie. That’s where I, at least, get into trouble, and I don’t think I’m alone. I’m not talking about neurodivergent people here, but really humans in general. Apparently moral disgust comes from the same part of the brain as physical disgust - and we react to an appalling act with the same visceral response as to a rotting piece of meat. That it is visceral suggests to me that it’s rooted most strongly in the need to defend oneself, when our nervous system decides time is of the essence, and acts fast. “Unfair” is a huge trigger for me, and one that’s caused a lot of trouble. I think the dichotomy is most obvious in the justice system. On the one hand, we base our laws on a moral code - cheating, stealing, killing is wrong. But I thInk we get ourselves in trouble with the idea of “justice being served.” Then moral outrage can set in, and people start talking about whether a sentence is punishment enough. One of the reasons prison reform is hard to achieve in the US is because people feel some need for those convicted to suffer. “Fair/unfair” tends to suppose that, if a victim suffered, the perpetrator needs to suffer too. As far as autistic people go, I’d like to say that our internal logic is so strong that emotion doesn’t sway us, but I really don’t think that’s true. We’re still human, and the capacity for empathy we do have is an indication that emotions move us. And as far as theory of mind goes, I’ve been bumping into stuff on the topic lately, both within and outside the ND community, and it’s been confirming my suspicion that I do have some oddities there. It gets linked to lack of empathy in a way that made me think of it in terms of a kind of antisocial/learning disability way: the stereotype of the cold autistic person who doesn’t realize that other people have feelings too. But I’m realizing it’s more nuanced than that: at its root, TOM is understanding that other people possess knowledge you don’t, or vice versa. I gather it’s a partly a sense of where you end and other people begin. I remember figuring this out at about the normal age, but it never quite made sense. I have been coming to the conclusion that I understand this intellectually, but it’s not highly intuitive. I think this is one reason I’m confused and frustrated when I’m unable to make myself understood: I don’t really see how what makes sense to me doesn’t feel the same to another person. I get that perspectives differ, but it’s not instinctive. And it tracks with my description of myself as functionally egocentric: I don’t want to feel like the center of the universe; it clashes with my values, and I have actually always hated being trapped in my own head. It’s not intentional, but it’s there. Which is why I try to play devil’s advocate with myself, and people’s opinions have always been a special interest. It helps. But my default state is not to sense myself as one of many, and that makes trouble, especially with fair/unfair and my assumptions as to what people mean or feel.

[@aprilk141]

I'm not squatting on the floor and rocking while watching my 16th hour of Austism KZbin! How dare you!!! (no diagnosis yet)

[@misspat7555]

You are still welcome in the club if you care to identify! ❤

[@questioneverything1682]

Clearly, you showed empathy for that fake tree and you acknowledged your fault by apologizing, although you had no intention to do harm. Bravo! Hahaha!

[@nullifye7816]

I apologise to plants as well 😅

[@WeirdNamja]

Strong sense of justice, yes. Morally superior, no.

[@PsychActually]

I love how you explained this! Decades ago, my first experience with the field of psychology was when a youth pastor introduced our youth group to Meyers Briggs. The youth pastor was an ENFP and he constantly complained about how judgmental “SJs” were in the church. He thought ENFPs and other NF types and some other types were nonjudgmental types. Fast forward a few years (and some maturity) later, and I was able to realize that EVERY SINGLE TYPE has the capacity to be just as judgmental as the next type. The difference is simply in what we would be judgmental about, because we all hold different values. For example, an “SJ” type might judge their “NF” type nextdoor neighbor for not keeping a perfectly manicured lawn while their “NF” type might judge their “SJ” nextdoor neighbor for spending so much time manicuring their lawn instead of spending more quality time on relationships. The youth pastor I mentioned earlier felt the “SJs” were judgmental about contemporary music and other things he wanted to change, because they valued tradition. But he was being just as judgmental towards them because he perceived them as an obstacle standing in the way of things HE valued. I also saw once that people believe Hitler was an INFJ. Conversely, I’m also married to an INFJ and he is my favorite person and basically a saint. Anyway, how does all of this apply to autistic people? I think that autistic people exist in every personality type (of every personality theory). I see them as existing with a special “autistic tint” layered on top of the personality type. As autistic people, we have the capacity for all of the good qualities and the potential pitfalls that come with our personality, but with the added bonus of everything you talked about in this video. More extreme feelings about things and potentially less flexible thinking etc etc etc I know that the autistic qualities you discussed in this video can mean that some autistic people will be absolutely amazing, ethical human beings that will change the world for good. But as you demonstrated with Thanos, the opposite is also MORE than possible. This is me sending up a middle finger to the black and white thinking that my autistic brain is so prone to 😂🤣😂

[@misspat7555]

I realized from a young age that the golden rule doesn’t apply to me, and the silver rule wouldn’t, either. People want to be treated in ways that would drive me up a wall; people don’t want to be treated in ways that would make me comfortable. I was raised by my AuDHD twice-exceptional, of course undiagnosed, father, who passed these traits to me in a block, and definitely took advantage of white male privilege and the lack of society perceiving him as disabled to, ah, coercively control, let us say, his family. I point this out as an example of how autistics can still be bullies to get what we want, same as anyone else. I also agree that what we value is ultimately a matter of subjective personal preference; I myself valued/value having children above all else, and how my life has played out has reflected that. Others could definitely judge me as selfish and animalistic, and eschew children and even a partner (or at least a partner of the opposite biological sex) in favor of advocating for green energy, or making clean, safe drinking water available to all people, or ensuring all girls have access to education, or whatever. Everyone can get all updandered about whatever it is we have poured our time, energy, and money into, and it really isn’t productive. People, especially people over about age 25, when our brains stop maturing, don’t change our value systems much. 🫤

[@TheeOldest]

Thanks for making this!❤

[@rockstarjazzcat]

Hi 'JENNt! My mug replacement arrived intact, as did the additional order! Digging my apparel. Thank you lovely human! Best, D

[@rockstarjazzcat]

And going to drink some water now. Please don't Thanos us!

[@GniewnyMedrzec]

It makes so much sense now... When I was a kid we were often fighting with my sister, as siblings tend to do. I was told by my mother to behave myself since I'm (2 years) older. I was trying my best but my sister didn't care at all. I told my mom about it - that I'm strugling to behave because of my sister and her teasing. She didn't react. I got soo angry that I kicked my mother's butt... I was around 8~9 years old and I wasn't a brat so it was a big surprice for both of us - in the first second. At second second came almighty righteous punishment. It was fully justified. And now I know that's all because of my "strong sense of justice". Thank you Jenn!

[@dftones19]

It’s felt like my purpose in life is to fight injustice. Injustice makes me feel like I’m gonna explode. Also rejection sensitivity is brutal, feels like the world is ending

[@PsychActually]

Same!!!

[@CoralMcPherson]

OMG the logic! Ex BF considered himself super logical and thought I was the opposite. Then I explained how I reached a conclusion and he told me off for making sense. But I'm also a supervisor at work and while you can technically do some things in a different order to get the correct result, people doing it a different way to me drives me up the wall! I have to just look at the end and not the bits between to stay sane...

[@diversatree]

Love your video! You made some excellent points and I agree. Thank you for your posts!

[@srldwg]

The other side of the coin is not considering the other person's point of view at all. Only focusing on our point of view (at times). This can make compromise not happen (even someone meeting 15%, it's none at all.) I don't consider this the same as boundaries. Boundaries can become a gray area and compromise can happen if someone is willing to be a little flexible, and not have to bend 100% in one person's direction. Compromise doesn't mean the person gets disturbed or their needs aren't honored. It is a discussion considering the other party and ways the boundaries can be honored while the other party gets some of what they want. This goes the other way when someone is people pleasing. Speaking up and expressing a boundary can be tough. It is important though. Once the individual gets the ability to speak up, they can listen to the thoughts of the other person without feeling invalidated if they remain open minded. Then they can weigh out what the person expressed. They have drawn the boundary, while considering the wants of the other party. Yes, some become absolute "no's", until they accidentally get crossed (no ill intent), where the understanding of no ill intent can allow the person to be calmer and more rational about things. Theory of mind and mind blindness come into play here too. Struggling with these, it can become "The way that I see it is the way it is." "I am the only one who feels this way." "I care more than they do because the way they see it doesn't look like they care." Sometimes rigidity can close ones ears to listening to and processing that others thoughts, feelings, opinions, ideas can be considered in a respectful way. They are not trying to cancel out our thoughts, feelings, opinions, ideas - they are trying to explain theirs and we can consider and add them to our knowledge.

[@anne.marie42]

NIcely laid out. I have to wonder what the world would be like right now if everyone had to study logic and flow charting in high school. (And not related to content, but you have a great eye for colour and composition.) I would also like to give this more than one like. Thanks!

[@Chris-wj6pn]

I have never considered that "inverse" of the golden rule, but it genuinely is an important distinction! Great video, thank you for sharing!

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@Chris-wj6pn absolutely! The reason it's important that I didn't get into in this video, is because there's a strange psychology that applies to us when we think someone else is wrong... that we are just in treating them badly because we think (consciously or subconsciously) we would deserve that ourselves. As such, many deem it to be consistent with the golden rule to reprimand and treat others badly when we perceive them to be wrong or incorrect.

[@aprilk141]

I learned about the silver rule in the 1990s on KZbin when studying atheism. My favorite precept thusfar is "Do no harm, lest ye be harmed". It's pretty good.

[@ElMoonLite]

@@NeurodiverJENNt I'm not sure I agree. I've never been in a position where I thought it was ok to treat someone else badly. Quite the contrary, I feel really bad when I know I treat someone badly, even if I know I can't do anything about it (that's usually where my ADHD comes in). If I think someone else is wrong, I don't tend to treat them badly, rather I ponder why they come to that conclusion, and try to figure out if I'm wrong or how to make them see my point. I have to admit I have lived a fairly easy sheltered life, and rarely experienced someone doing me wrong. I try to help out where I can and usually received in kind. Everything going wrong in my life usualy boils down to my own inability to do things. I'm a fairly bright educated healthy average looking white male, so I had less struggles I see others had to cope with (on top of their AuDHD struggles). Also here in the Netherlands things seem a lot less competition focused than in the US, less hierarchy, less strife, more common good goals, less chance of feeling mistreated or skipped in queue. Maybe I never felt the need to treat someone else badly in return because I wasn't, or because I never felt like I deserved something more than someone else.

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@ElMoonLite this is an excellent conversation... And perhaps this psychology is more common amongst the neurotypical population. Most people would say they don't think this way, but it could be more on a subconscious level in a way that plays out for people who think they are being just. I feel I have lived a decently sheltered life as well. I mean I grew up poor, but sheltered in many other regards. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@ElMoonLite]

@@NeurodiverJENNt Oh I'm pretty sure I sometimes think that way, and quite consciously so. I can get mad and emotional about things but I usually don't let it show and never act on it :D My mind: "You want WHAT? You stupid little... you know what, do it yourself! You stupid f..." ... grrr ... sigh "Oh heck let's just get this over with" To the outside: "counter arguments made. no other protest." After I let it sink in a bit I usually find I wasn't being rational anyway. Or it is rational to just do the stupid thing asked for without making a hassle, ending up in overall less hassle for everyone. I often get irritated and mad when I'm tired, someone at work deciding something I'm sure is stupid, but usually after being clear about my point of view I still suck it up and try to help out as I can. Sharing thoughts in the comments kind of comes with the territory on KZbin :D Interesting how comments can range anywhere from toxic to intoxicating. But yes, I try, and you are most welcome :)

[@anevarez]

Great video, as always! I liked the philosophical part of it, too. I hope your infinity stones don’t wipe out anyone

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@anevarez Thanks Alex! I've yet to decide what I'm going to do with them...

[@PsychActually]

I’ve literally been saying lately: “I feel like I understand Thanos. I wouldn’t do it, but I understand it.” 🤪

[@pardalote]

Jenn, that was brilliant! ❤

[@Torsee]

If this then that..hits home hard with me. And My sister used to say, analyze analyze analyze to me. I’m undiagnosed, but I’m sure I am.

[@TessaCoker]

Excellent and succinct. Thanks, Jenn💕

[@ArnoldJamesXT]

A clear example of this issue is workplace promotions. We're often told that to be promoted, you need to work hard, solve problems, be loyal to the company, and go above and beyond in your role. But is that really who gets promoted? More often than not, it isn’t. Even most NTs will tell you that. It never fails to amaze me how companies overlook the best candidates in favor of others who don’t necessarily deserve the role. This is just one example of the inaccurate and imprecise world that autistic people have to navigate.

[@REZZA2020]

Strong sense of 'justice' - comes from experiencing a lifetime of injustice.

[@bradkrekelberg8624]

When I was a supervisor, I found myself unable to act a lot of the time because I felt like if I was the person being reprimanded or whatever, I would need my supervisor to have a ROCK SOLID position for why I needed to be reprimanded, or else "not fair". I never felt like I had one, as you seldom do in real life. Some of it is just gut feeling, and that's a hard thing for me to do anything based on. Also, I cannot watch the news. All the injustice around the world, it's just too much! And thirdly, you mention we neurodivergents need to watch how we treat each other. Sometimes it's a real struggle with my son when he wants to go on and on about his special interest, while I would like to get back to mine, haha.

[@ShadeCandle]

I don't know if we're morally superior, but the moral inconsistency of NTs drives me crazy!!

[@tims9434]

Nicely put Jenn.

[@narushini704]

One theory I've been thinking about based on my experiences is this: Neurodivergent people are less likely to violate their own moral codes. A neurodivergent person is less likely to act against beliefs they believe are immoral or unfair, whereas neurotypicals tend to violate their own moral codes on a regular basis. I believe neurodiverse people lack the ability to resolve cognitive dissonance entirely or at least partially. Neurodivergent people therefore cannot use the ability to deceive themselves to the extent that neurotypicals do, which is why they avoid the occurrence of this unpleasant cognitive dissonance in the first place. For example, someone who is neurotypical could believe that cheating in a relationship is morally reprehensible and that there is no acceptable excuse for it, and yet at the same time excuse their own cheating (which should create cognitive dissonance) to themselves by deceiving themselves.

[@redhawkredhawk77com]

Anyone who claims Autists are without empathy clearly didn't watch to the end, where you apologize to bumping into an artificial tree; something we all can relate to.

[@AuditingWithAutism]

What a fun video!! The philosophical silver rule was golden.🎉

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@AuditingWithAutism I see your reverse reversing over there... Quit flipping the script on me

[@AuditingWithAutism]

@NeurodiverJENNt LOL Busted.🌟

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@AuditingWithAutism go to the corner

[@AuditingWithAutism]

🫡😅🫡

[@Green_Roc]

Picking up the feelings of others: was not something I learned to do, nor from copying others (as I didnt learn to copy others, I avoided copying others). I just FEEL their feelings, regardless of what I wished. Sometimes I feel others feeling so strongly, I have a meltdown from being overwhelmed.

[@13SuperSuirre]

I identify the most with the AuDHD crowd, but I was just diagnosed as strictly ADHD, and I think that because I present each bit the opposite of what is expected. Emotional dysregulation? I mostly just don't feel anything vs feeling big emotions. There was another example but I can't think of it now.

[@j.b.4340]

A strong sense of justice does not equate with morality. A strong sense of justice is quite personal. It’s more like an opinion, and I’ve discovered that it’s easily subject to change.

[@Green_Roc]

I feel a STRONG relation to most everything in this video. I need to bookmark this to share later when I want people to understand how I think.

[@DavidMcCurley]

Thanos... Well played

[@Jenna.g.85]

I am currently learning about radically open dbt

[@shapeofsoup]

In all seriousness, I believe this tendency for a more consistent (not necessarily correct or rigid) moral compass stems from monotropism. More specifically what I call monotropic expansion: the inside-out, context-seeking form of cognitive development that incorporates new input based on relevance to a core cognitive cluster.

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@shapeofsoup um.... What?! 😂JK That's what I tried to explain about my internal flow chart damnit!!!

[@grummelameise]

​@@NeurodiverJENNt you did not understand it because it is bullshit reddit autistic identity new age mumbo jumbo. its like star trek techno babble.

[@fangfabio]

thank you for this! Do you have information about the connection between autism and veganism? I feel like tons of vegans I know are autistic and tons of autistic people I know are also vegans.

[@markday3145]

7:09 Jenn: "Logic is..." Me: "... a wreath of pretty flowers that smell bad!" (Thanks, Mr. Spock!)

[@aprilk141]

You have and always will be my friend...

[@Torsee]

Size doesn’t matter..Remember the end of the movie Men in Black? The Universe…as a pendant? 😊

[@Torsee]

Very interesting!

[@MissNikkiDawson]

My sense of justice always seems to get me into arguments. It's so hard not to argue but I try my best.

[@shawnherriott1093]

@5:54, I got strong Palpatine to Anakin vibes. Obsession is a path to the dark side

[@jaosandv]

This was a realy good informative video. Also a good lesson to ourself. Treat others like you want to be treated.

[@Arnie-uc1jv]

Well done! I would not be surprised if there’s a couple spinoffs of this video though.😊

[@ZSchrink]

Another excellent topic and video! I've been talking about inconsistent application of rules egulations\punishments for decades now! Weird that I can count it in decades..... Also, the plural of Lego is Lego Also also, I haven't seen the Marvel movie set with Infinity War, but I've had the premise explained to me. If Thanos could get gems and snap to get rid of half of all life everywhere, why not multiply the number of planets that can support life by 30?

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@ZSchrink oh SNAP! Apparently Thanos was not an out of the box thinker. I suppose he could have also just manifested more resources! Also... Thank you for teaching me about the plural of Lego. I will spread this information to the masses!

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@ZSchrink also I can't believe you haven't seen infinity wars

[@ZSchrink]

@@NeurodiverJENNt 🎉 It's one of my pedantic things 😅

[@ZSchrink]

@@NeurodiverJENNt PDA is a heck of a thing 😅

[@doogy900]

if size doesnt matter and i need to drink water, should i drink a shot glass of water for the day?

[@am-bz4sr]

❤❤❤

[@bloodstripeleatherneck1941]

🏆

[@nathanh6439]

15:44 Great, now I won't be able to drink water for days. And I usually drink 2-3 gallons a day. Thanks, Jenn!

[@patryn36]

thanos's logic was flawed in its intial stages and it slanted the action he chose, other than that i completely understand and support the idea even though i would of choosen differently. There is only one form of logic, how each tries to use it can differ greatly. I work the karma aspect in everything, what i do to others is very well considered and it is a shame that they do not do the same.

[@laura.bseyoga]

💚

[@DamienClarke2438]

There are many correct answers, but not all of the time and not for everybody. Not knowing how, why and when it is correct not always known at the time. The Lego Infinity stones looked impressive in size and stature.

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@DamienClarke2438 Thank you 💪🏼I feel better about my infinity stones now

[@REZZA2020]

Hi Jen, thanks.

[@spencerdeumer-nt2eu]

I am not sure if this is quite the same thing but I find I always find myself trying to do the right thing. (whatever that may be) . Is that part of perfectionism? Not sure. I also find myself most times siding with the underdog.

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@spencerdeumer-nt2eu same regarding the underdog!

[@grummelameise]

I read up on that. the thing is, normal people orient their ethics and morals on whats around them. thats why its possible that people get harrased and beaten and killed amidst of a mob. the individuual orients themselves on whats happening. no one is stepping in, that must mean that the victim has done something heinous. well, there is people that have their opwn moral compass. women much more then men - men need a peer group to learn what values they should follow. women don't need that, since they have it on board already. a sole women is much more likely to resist peer pressure to do something against her judgment, a sole man is much more plyable, he needs the security of the hirarchy. (once he has learned the values, what ever they may be, then he is kinda secure in his judgment - someone in a man friendgroup will get called out for his behaviour, and worse.) read up on it, i ddid not pull it out of my behind, its all scientific and stuff. oh yeah: for apparent reasons, autistics follow their own judgment.... for me, the reason is simply that i can't trust someone elses rules, its much better to invent my won rules. they may be wrong, but at least i understand why i invented them in the first place. i can alter them and i do, as i see fit. and yeah it was trial and error, to my still hurting neverending social embarrasment. every day i am shuffeling reasons for women to have their own morals compass: nurturung instinct. reasons for men to be plyable: they need to absolutely learn when and how to use violence. to defend their offspring and mate. thats why women want an selfsecure man who trusts his judgment. the mate will let him decide if its an utter emergency situation or not. and i mean like life or death, fight or flight, hospital RIGHT NOW or bandage and early to bed. inversely, the men trusts the women with social cues. yeah i know it sounds like bullshit, but thats what the books say about moral compass.

[@tracik1277]

I had to comment just to appreciate the fact you said every day I’m shuffling. Made me lol. I know how you feel.

[@marisa5359]

I shrink from using the word "superior'. I strive for humbleness as a Christ follower so I don't like to say anything that suggests I think too highly of myself.However, I do note a higher instance in the neurodivergent community of a strict passion for justice and maintaining a firm sense of "rightness". The stress when this "rightness" goes off the rails is indeed a significant thing to reckon with. Ask my husband when I get upset about a movie "based on a true story" changing lots of details or twisting them. He says that is why he doesn't read about these things but, hey, researching is an inescapable component of myself, so, it is going to happen. Lol. And, when it does? Oh, boy...My outrage is a thing to behold and the movie's often dismissed by me as pretty much unwatchable. But, that is me... because I feel they "lied" to manipulate me, a thing which really riles me. However, I also know there is a thing called artistic license and many times people have signed off on the rights to have their story portrayed as such. So, some things are also about perspective. And in the case of Thanos, very good point. Some laser-focused viewpoints can lead to half the world becoming dust for the sake of one guy's sense of "rightness". Good thought provoking video! Thank you!😊

[@ThisisPam]

Yes, immediately yes 🙌🏼 (just started watching but us autistics need something here…give me this!!) I shall enjoy feeling superior for a moment and then watch the video 🤣👀

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@ThisisPam 😂🤣 okay but just for a moment!

[@ThisisPam]

@@NeurodiverJENNtAlright, back to reality

[@WoohooliganComedy]

💖

[@hawaiianbabyrose]

Ooh snap! 🫰

[@TheYangnyin]

Moral and strong sense of justice but not necessarily correct.. I am autistic and a (former) friend is a week but we're passionately on opposite sides politically (abortion, trans rights, immigration, welfare) - which of us is correct? I side with Lady Liberty but that's not currently in favor, judging by our elected representative

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@TheYangnyin I'll glad you guys are able to still be friends. We all have very different views about policies and outcomes ❤️

[@kensears5099]

The moment I saw your title, I thought, "Hmph, well of COURSE we are!" But then I thought, "Wait, maybe that was immorally superior of me...." 😁

[@tomasvoldrich]

15:25🤣😂

[@EvilNecroid]

i love u

[@shapeofsoup]

*gasp* how dare you

[@steffenhesslarsen]

I am curious. Can autistic people understand fuzzy logic (a type of logic used in programming where an answer is always a percentage chance of each outcome rather than an absolute outcome) and internalize it as a logic system for understanding the world? A bit like data in Star Trek answering that the likelihood of a result is a certain percentage.

[@chelly_belly11]

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[@Green_Roc]

Thanos did it because he was trying to prevent the giants from hatching from planets. Actual lore in mcu. Go see 'The Eternals' to see the hatching giants that Thanos was trying to prevent.

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@Green_Roc oh dang I didn't know that. Look at you knowing the true story 🤣

[@blueorchid5971]

Strong sense of justice which doesn’t show up on the dsm5 is actually moral rigidity that stems from cognitive inflexibility. Section b2. It's important to speak out against aspie supremacy, im sure Elon musk thinks he has justice sensitivitity too.

[@jimwilliams3816]

Thank you for citing Elon Musk. The tech world is one of the places where the idea of logical supremacy has produced some dismaying impacts. I have always thought that when ideology supplants concern for the well being of others, this opens the door for terrible acts. That tendency is definitely not limited to people on the spectrum, but I think we can be notably vulnerable. I am more drawn to ideas than people, and it doesn’t make me a more compassionate person.

[@katzenmett1424]

sadly Elon proved the opposide!

[@shapeofsoup]

Jenn…you’re ridiculous 🤣

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

Ridiculous is my MIDDLE name