Are Automatic Farms BAD For Minecraft?! 🤔

[@Eduardo_G]

Automatic farms give more time to do other things than just collecting resources

[@doodlebob3374]

@Eric Lee Whats wrong with automatic farms?

[@doodlebob3374]

@Eric Lee Why can't we play the way we want? You go collect resources your way and I'll collect them mine.

[@hawllow173]

like build a giant dancing cactus

[@inspirice9844]

@Eric Lee collecting resources takes up a ton of time, especially of you want to do massive projects

[@MisterHunterWolf]

Automatic farms did nothing wrong

[@Demonetizedh8re]

"But first, let's ask a question What is an automatic farm?" *VSause music plays*

[@LCOfficerUNIT097]

Oh god, I just sung the Ali-A intro...

[@seko0629]

@@LCOfficerUNIT097 *smashes car* HEY! VSAUCE HERE!

[@alexandergames7843]

😂😂

[@RaysWorks]

Thanks for the shoutout! I really had fun designing the totem of undying farm. Mojang does put out stuff that they think wont be farmable. Like chorus plants but we still find ways to automatic them even if it's slower and more tedious.

[@championazhan2180]

Automatic totem of undying farm sounds OP

[@catsofficial300]

Thank you ray, very cool!

[@coolness4487]

Champion Azhan it is!!

[@jesusmario6106]

Am I the only one who doesn’t know what tedious means?

[@xoriun8638]

Mojang just doesn't know, how many 'bugs'/unintentional features they implement with each new version of the game

[@mac1991seth]

Official Minecraft trailer: "No one can tell you what you can or cannot do."

[@Dr-Random]

Minecraft: HeIgHt LiMiT iS 256 bLoCkS

[@lauriee5364]

Minecraft again: you can only sleep at night or in thunderstorms

[@JashXD]

“You are banned from this server”

[@tyminator8176]

"With no rules to follow. This adventure, it's up to you."

[@NSluiter]

except for mojang

[@yaydee9172]

"For proof that you can make a full world automatic, look no further than..." Me: Sci-craft! "...the Hermitcraft server."

[@fates6922]

Yaydee 91 me too bruh

[@hudbudthedudhudbudthedud5252]

Both work

[@igordiniz46]

I like the brazzilian series ''Em Busca da Casa Automatica''

[@fabio5286]

@@igordiniz46 scicraft is 10x times better

[@fabio5286]

@@anontaco on redstone, but the things that happen in hermitcraft are cooler, like the civil war, the community just destroys that.

[@Christopher_Gibbons]

Automatic farms are the reason why minecraft will always beat out pretenders like creativerse. If I have to hang around and do everything I don’t want to bother.

[@Christopher_Gibbons]

No, that was my point. I don’t have time to wait for pumpkins to grow, much better that stuff handles itself so I can go play the game.

[@inspirice9844]

@Eric Lee Watch the hermitcrafters they're always doing something fun and ridiculous while having tons of automatic farms

[@greenv2127]

And literally everything else about Minecraft one ups them

[@nintySW]

zoom strike old channel if something goes wrong you did something wrong

[@robinmonsere2737]

@zoom strike old channel If you know how to do it properly, they never fail!

[@ShayTheValiant]

Minecraft is about playing how YOU want to play, so there really is no right or wrong answer here.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Agreed.

[@thescarlethunter2160]

Agree

[@tigris0698]

You are completely right!!!

[@pineappleproductions1696]

Mmmmeeeeeeh

[@malakachino]

Jake Berango unless you’re playing on a server... then there can be a wrong answer

[@IsaacIKE]

I like the automatic farms not because I need the resources but because I enjoy building them and exploring new ways to use Redstone

[@Radmon222]

I just install about 200 mods to automatically make automatic farms... That produce automatic farms

[@IsaacIKE]

@@Radmon222 I like you

[@machixius]

make minecraft like oxygen not included where you automate E V E R Y T H I N G no freal it's fun getting there and once your done do whatever you want you've trancended to creative for all purposes

[@f-j-Services]

@@Radmon222 very true lol like opencomputers, the good days of GregTech IG, team CoFH, EnderIO! So much more.

[@adrianposkonka8331]

@@machixius that is what mojang doesn't want minecraft to become. They will most likely never add anything like automatic wood collectors or miners because it goes against what they intended the game to be. Besides most of current farms require the player to be somewhat near the farm (since mobs spawn within a certain distance from the player) so, like antvemon mentioned, if you are making something withing that range then there are no issues with them. However, just sitting there while being AFK doesn't really allow you to do anything in-game so it would be annoying (especially for me) having to wait for however long to obtain iron when I could just go to look for iron in some caves and at least explore a bit of the world.

[@gunnarkvanvig161]

Builds iron farm because it's too much work to mine iron. Builds entire structure out of the most iron-intensive solid block in the game.

[@turtle_7777]

Anvils?

[@gunnarkvanvig161]

@@turtle_7777 "Iron-intensive *solid* block in the game." But point taken. I just wouldn't suggest building a roof out of anvils.

[@amayurubashaka3608]

Mumbos season 7 base haha.

[@Enderia2]

@@amayurubashaka3608 thats… concrete.

[@tayachothman5615]

@@Enderia2 Concrete blocks do not have LINES on them

[@professorracc.9780]

They save time more than anything. There's nothing challenging about getting these resources, it just takes time.

[@mechachurch4556]

@R B J What you just said was dumb and unnecessary.

[@mikoajkoek3145]

@R B J That's completely wrong on so many levels. A: it's not your job to tell people how to play a game. B: iron farm are actually quite difficult to make, and they make certain otherwise impossible projects possible in survival

[@marxismleninismkanyeism6440]

@R B J automatic farms make large build entiraly possible and fun in survival its not yout job to tell people how to play

[@AG-tv7jd]

R B J you might as well be a caveman hunting and gathering for food, because you think that having a farm isn’t in the spirit of survival. I won’t even begin to talk about how dumb your argument sounds.

[@RizLazey]

R B J well imagine you have to go hunting for parts building your OWN PHONE instead of buying one that has been assembled automatically Pls dont be an idiot -_-

[@ayzix-polytopia3854]

I don’t think farms are bad. I actually think it’s the opposite. I think you truly finished a Minecraft world if you can automatically farm any farmable item in survival.

[@ayzix-polytopia3854]

abstrusePaladin Yep. If you can farm anything farmable, you’re almost in creative mode.

[@justicehiggins2963]

AyZix if u gathered enough resources then it seems like that anyways what’s your point? Once my armor has all the enchantments I have beaten the elder dragon and the wither and have enough blocks and food to do anything then you’re literally in the exact same situation except u wasted hours of your life that you can never get back because it’s “cheating” if u don’t? 🤡

[@redbassett2462]

@@justicehiggins2963 Damn sorry people like automatic farms and feel accomplished when they can do whatever they want in a survival world without having to grind for hours on end to get the correct resources.

[@justicehiggins2963]

Zoey Bassett sorry my comment was poorly written, but I’m all for automatic farms and I use them all the time

[@superNova5837]

Well I mean yeah but with new updates that change red stone things get broken the farm needs to be fixed and also game mechanics you might want or need to make a farm more efficient based off of what you do in the world

[@Jessie_Helms]

I remember spending 8+ hours on a survival server trying to make an iron farm, only for it to not work. Pretty sure I didn’t properly build it.

[@adriannacortez9080]

Justin Helms no minecraft actually made it very hard to get iron farms each iron golem drops 6 iron and a rose

[@chillingchill6823]

Iron golem farm isn't worth to me anyway I mean, iron is pretty much common...

[@giannibleya7690]

@@chillingchill6823 bro I've been playing for more than 2 months on this world, I dug iron almost every damn time I saw it, and had to make a few hoppers and poof!! Reduced to 1 stack. Good luck bro

[@hachikuji_mayoi]

yea hoppers eat all your iron

[@minecraftercreeper9840]

@@hachikuji_mayoi Just 5 iron. Anvils are the real danger. 31 iron.

[@MuzikBike]

Anyone else miss water stream based farms?

[@Jim-dx2gt]

Water streams still get used sometimes though, to conserve iron for hoppers and sometimes for lag purposes I think

[@Vinni-2K]

*JIM DUCKER* i still use water streams for my farms

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Muzik Bike I still use them, aren’t they necessary for maps?

[@adrianneflors.genetiano425]

Yep

[@shii5795]

Nah. Hated water farms.

[@MazerTime]

Farms ruin the economy? Look at hermitcraft again. Cheaper iron mean even players with less resource are able to get it. Even afk fish farms to get mending dont ruin your game. Yeah, you leave the computer open at night, and then you dont have to spend hours mining for diamonds... you need to instead invest them in making xp farm to fix your tools. Wow, i wonder whats more fun? Strip mining or building stuff? Tough question. I dont need to answer it because every player can make their own choice. Resource gathering isnt the main idea of minecraft. You can build bigger, more impressive things if you get a good food farm and you are able to farm the blocks you need, or have enough resource to gather what you dont farm. The only point here that relevant is lag. There are less laggy versions of most farm. Check sci-craft for example. They are expert in farms, and do everything to avoid lag.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Eric Lee Dude you made another comment about how it’s not fun in your opinion, why do people have to agree with you to be having fun? Other opinions exist. Relax, it’s a game.

[@spikebeer1373]

Agreed, there is no right way to play minecraft, some people like to make auto farms. Who's to say that is the wrong way to play. We have a large number of these players on my realm, if it wasn't for them I don't think we would have worlds that last 6+ months. Everyone would get bored long before that. The ones that like to mine for diamonds spend it on slime and other items the auto-farmers sell. They in turn us their diamonds for other shops. etc etc. The economy still works.

[@INFINITExVIVITAR101]

It still ruins the economy.

[@metawarp7446]

AFK fish farms... If not bothering with food or mending makes the game more fun for you? Why not just use /give? Or do you like pretending you are playing the game "legit?" Well... I think AFK fishing is as legit survival as /give. But if the game is more fun that way, OK.

[@Wiggins-]

In terms of ruining the economy, getting infinite of something is bad for the market because it makes the item in question effectively worthless, there's no point in trading that item whatsoever because it's either basically (if it becomes monopolized) or literally free, in turn, narrowing the scope of what's viable in the market and making it more difficult for business to grow or evolve. This will in turn raise the value of money, which is what's known as deflation (Deflation because it makes less money, due to it's higher value), making money itself less available to all parties. Eventually a trend will happen if more resources inflate (Dropping in value because there is so much more of it), deflating money more until eventually the majority of people cannot effectively make enough money to live, making the market crash and causing the majority of people to live in destitution and/or poverty until the market balances out again. That being said, it's minecraft, it's not like it needs a stable economy because every individual has the abilities and tools needed to do everything, (An economy is born from necessity after all) including making an automatic farm. All I'm doing is explaining why an infinite resource is usually bad for a market or economy. (And kind of why it's usually impossible to sustain one in minecraft) An explanation on the "Monopolization of an infinite resource" thing You'd probably expect if someone is in full control of a resource that they could charge whatever they want for it, since they have no competition, which is true. However, in terms of a resource that is no expenditure to the company, it makes more sense to sell it for a lower value because A. It gets more of their product out in the market and more of it sold, period. B. Having a more available product is going to draw more customers to buy their product, in turn, increasing their profits C. If not as many people can afford said product, the company will end up with excess of a product that they have little they can do with, and accumulates nothing by sitting around, showing investors and potential business partners that the product isn't worth their business, slowing or halting the growth of the company producing the infinite product. D. Eventually, competition will rise up, and when it does, because the product itself has so little value, unless they adapt and lower prices, the new company will inevitably out-compete the monopoly, forcing the monopoly's hand to lower prices in order to kick out the new competition. (A monopoly's power resides in being able to crush competition WHEN it pops up, as it is impossible to outright prevent potential competition from happening, even if for whatever reason it becomes illegal, a black market will simply pop up, making it even more difficult for the monopoly to compete with as it can simply ignore normal market regulations and rules) As a result, the item will end up inflating regardless of what the company would attempt, there's simply too many factors to an unlimited supply of a product.

[@isjosh8064]

To be honest...when i start a new survival world, my goal is to automate EVERYTHING! Kind of like hermitcraft actually

[@susannedecrom1984]

Same here

[@Platypus_3112]

wait since when does hermitcraft automate everything

[@isjosh8064]

Platypus 3112 since the start of hermitcraft 😂

[@seyyyer]

@@isjosh8064 you ever heard of scicraft? That's a server that actually automates stuff,

[@isjosh8064]

Sebastian Stark omg they both do

[@iseeghost]

Remember when this dude made pvp videos.

[@ingridtomova275]

mr. explain no

[@Akakuen.]

@@ingridtomova275 bruh 1 years.

[@Akakuen.]

@WarmNuggets so? i only said that. i didnt tell him to "dont reply it, its already 1 year."

[@tagwanted1840]

necroposting, but he has my respect for that

[@user-es3dr5xk8f]

@The Magic Knight pepole

[@catalinplocon5727]

It s like saying factories are bad for humans

[@silg7262]

Some of them are.

[@Vinni-2K]

Its true tho

[@pineappleproductions1696]

Yes

[@chawker67]

@@Vinni-2K If there wouldn't be factories you would never had your phone or any other type of electronics.

[@Shako_Lamb]

The overall quality of life actually drastically decreased with the industrial revolution. It's become better now that we have all kinds of entertainment and distractions and sanitation and such, but going from working freelance (meaning self-controlled schedule, not easy work) on a family farm or small workshop and living off the land, to working a repetitive mind-numbing job all day in a dangerous factory to make starving wages and come home to a filthy disease-ridden apartment building in an overcrowded city was quite a blow to the happiness of everyone involved except the upper-class bosses.

[@matoreichon3402]

no love for SciCraft members :( they basically sponsor hermitcraft

[@quantumsage4008]

True lol

[@Implexia]

I literally just made a comment saying basically this! (Before I found this!)

[@coolfatherrat9658]

2:23 I guess the villager thinks it’s a negative

[@Giantalfe]

*Duplication glitches have left the chat*

[@nischmath]

*the world* ftfy

[@furryexterminator1280]

You wrote "NE6ATIVES" Edit: and "LA6"

[@helenjones3699]

FURRET WALKING ON AN ESCELATOR and. A6AIN

[@Walter_]

Don't forget the elongated question mark. XD

[@LORDFUCK2828]

Yes!

[@Lil_lit_Bruh]

*L49*

[@FuerederGottfried]

He writes with minecraft blocks, there can be a 6 also be a g, please turn on your brain

[@EpicGamer-jh7nw]

I cant live without an antvenom video every snapshot. Thanks for the extra vid!

[@BigBroPro-cw1yk]

Molebo Gumbo. True hermitcraft fans would understand...

[@someperson2965]

Thats from the episode Grian and Iskall asked mumbo to be a mole!

[@SilverGamingFI]

BANANAS! Boring bye!

[@AquaGaming1607]

“Mumbo mumbo mumbo AFK! I’m gonna take that moustache away,”

[@NeverMaid]

Me 9 yr old: remove automatic farms Me 18 : hell yeah, i love my iron farm

[@stratant.8722]

What? Stupid

[@miniminers7487]

@@stratant.8722 ok so he's stupid because he had an opinion that he no longer even has... what?

[@stratant.8722]

@@miniminers7487 so 9 years ago he hated iron farms? 9 years ago there was not automatic iron farms not even villages!

[@simoneriksson6929]

Psycho Gamer 2019 - 9 = 2009

[@Moon-Archive]

@@stratant.8722 um. Miss. He didn't specify that his 9 year old self wanted iron farms gone. Just automatic farms in general. It's just that his 18 year old self loves his (or her) iron farm now that it's available.

[@quickhakker]

antvenom: Like hermitcraft Scicraft: Am i a joke to you?

[@turtle_7777]

Prototech too

[@ousamadearudesuwa]

Scicraft is almost overkill though.

[@quickhakker]

@@ousamadearudesuwa almost?

[@juusomaenpaa7236]

They literally have command blocks and end portal frames on Scicraft

[@quickhakker]

@@juusomaenpaa7236 which episode do they have command blocks, also they prob found a glitch for getting end portal frames, they litterally destroy bedrock in survival

[@CnC_Robert]

*A new video to enjoy! Yay!*

[@planetshine]

Hooray! 😀

[@commmander64]

Is that a GDI tank for a profile pic? Nice!

[@CnC_Robert]

Commmander 64 Yes it is! Do you play Command and Conquer?

[@TheGuszilla]

Talks about hermitcraft farms. Scicraft laughs evilly with a million ice blocks.

[@DamageMaximo]

Wilzy's Minecraft Survival World: Poor Scicraft, so innocent!

[@yemyataung7194]

@@DamageMaximo Have you um... seen scicraft tho?

[@tenderjuicy478]

Don't forget Prototech

[@hossenfepher1250]

Farm Science is awesome and keeps MC interesting and viable for future of players

[@anw4aar]

Lmao i was just watching Mumbo Jumbo's new episode Bad luck...

[@deandepedro3270]

-_-

[@emmiazona7153]

Ikr

[@hyperjohn6627]

yeah he went through sooo many hours for that "automatic farm"

[@andersseedehui6758]

same 😂😂😂

[@ninapoljak4456]

Samee

[@Fireheart318]

I think automatic farms are one of the best things about Minecraft. It’s just fun to get a farm up and running. I guess I’m speaking to innovation in general, as opposed to one facet of the most multi-faceted games ever, but my point still stands. Also, add a composter to your iron farms. There’s no way you’ll need THAT many poppies. Also, if your melon/pumpkin/sugarcane/cactus farms ever overflow, put the excess in a composter as well!

[@rpgtogether7022]

"It still will never really be enough" SciCraft: That's what we were explaining

[@rangerfurby]

That afk point is kind of mute with the existence of permaloaders

[@roundduck7005]

Right just stay in spawn chunk

[@user-dt4ct7jo6w]

I think automatic farms are just an advancement in MC, but I do think auto fish farms are overpowered...tho i'm just bitter cuz I can't find a mending book lol

[@SirBaconFace]

*ilmango has left the chat.*

[@tayachothman5615]

1- No farm is too good in minecraft there is a reason why you always variation and new versions of them all the time. 2-Number to just cause farm produce ONE or two even four types of items automatically does not mean you inventory and all of your chest will have unlimited supply of that material at all time in fact in they tremedous of time just to create a decent amount of that thing otherwise Minecraft would be more like Farmcraft . 3- Farms are not that OP the effort you need to build them takes of grinding and even when the build is finished you are still not completely done in fact you have ensure its safely and moniter the work constantly at least once a minecraft day . 4- Most farms need another if multiple to gather the material you need for them. 5- Just makes so that you don't have to be enslaved into doing the same action over and over for the rest of your life . 6- Farms can be satisfying when they work properly. 7- Automatic are just a more advanced version of grinding resources just cleverly .

[@chaosinternational3584]

2:30 if you do server play and combat and domination is ur focus then farming is essential

[@indiepunkcrow]

Sure, but what if you just make an automatic automatic farm farm?

[@EpicGamer-jh7nw]

:thinking:

[@dorugoramon0518]

And then make a farm for your automatic farm farm.

[@noradlark167]

I am currently building a railway to collect all resources from my farms at once. Guess that counts?

[@CoolAsFreya]

I feel like the effort that you put into building the farm legitimately in survival earns you the easy loot

[@averagejoe413]

I completely agree! Play your own way! Having auto or semi auto farms makes the game boring since you and your community server will die out. Nobody will return to the server because they will have nothing to grind for and nothing to do. Long term server with active players - dont allow auto/semi auto farms Short term gameplay - auto farms

[@simanolastname2399]

Oh look Justin Y isn’t here

[@fine93]

Thank God

[@YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA165]

The most broken farms are EMC generators in ProjectE (Equivalent Exchange). Me and a friend were fighting over who gets the most diamonds from an energy condenser, but I just decided to make a 3x5 flat EMC generator that got us hundreds of red matter blocks within minutes. We went from looking for resources and making quarries to having everything at our disposal instantly. We were suddenly able to kill anything and anyone, destroy biomes in seconds and fly while doing all of that. Kinda ruined the thing for others.

[@biggy7211]

Before I knew about mob grinders I found it difficult to get arrows and thought infinity enchantment on bows were game breaking

[@yougoslavia]

Infinity on a bow is actually very overrated.

[@willendean5194]

datblock gang

[@ethanking4902]

Nice

[@hellcat7314]

9:44 "Having a leg up on the competition doesn't always mean you'll win" Pay to win games: Observe.

[@diamonddemon7612]

r

[@superNova5837]

This comment is sponsored by RAID shadow legends

[@andromedagalaxy6060]

*ne6ativity* *neбativity* *NEGATIVITY*

[@themoagoddess1820]

it's only bad on multiplayer servers where your lag affects others and for people that want to challenge themselves, but can't resist the allure of effortless immortality (per the totem of undying farm) AFK options are great because they allow people to do other things without suffering the agony of loss aversion.

[@snacktable6738]

I feel like it depends on what they do with the resources, say that someone has an iron farm but hoards all the iron to themselves and uses it to pillage others I have a feeling that could ruin some Minecraft servers, but say someone has an iron farm but then they make an amazing public area using those iron blocks where people can trade, talk and have fun kinda ruins the point of something like that ruining a server, it would or more or less improve the server.

[@yougoslavia]

Iron is good for making long railways just like in real life.

[@redcoat7453]

in minecraft if you make an economy the currency is normaly something that cant be mass produced

[@madeleineruusu]

Like diamonds!

[@yougoslavia]

@@madeleineruusu Exactly. Or possibly quartz.

[@fuwu9904]

7:46 Is that a Doom refference?

[@joshuahaynes1026]

Most crazy auto farms like golems, witch, and totem of undying are end game. I think if you build up to it, you should be able to rest on your laurels. But they do remove a lot of incentive to go out and adventure other than just for the sake of it. If your minecraft base becomes a Warlords of Draenor Simulator, it might be too much though

[@gijskramer1702]

You can also look at scicraft. Far more technical

[@reahnheflen2205]

I personally enjoy building mini games in survival in a multi player server. So I love to automate stuff to get the resources for that stuff. Because I use alot of it. Yeah I end up the richest person in the server. But that also means we dont get bored after end game stuff. Building something like an arena or even a racing game using boats and packed ice is a great way to keep things fun. I'm currently struggling with some noobs who own a server and are really trying their hardest to fight a loosing battle. They dont want people afk. And they have plug ins to try and stop people from doing it. And have even gone as far as teleporting to random people to check up on them. And spoiling things like their own suprise birthday party. They do this to keep things "fun", but this is WAY to controlling for it to be fun and is driving even me away from the server.

[@TaHame1]

personally i feel it really boils down to what you/ your server wants out of the game. i think its super cool that some of the hyperspecialized farms are able to farm things as rare as totems of undying. The farm building is one part of the community, just like redstone, minigames and whatever else.

[@ballfart1549]

datbwock gang

[@mdbgamer556]

I personally think afk farms are a playstyle altogether. They are also integral parts to certain survival challenges such as skyblock. In all honesty, it depends on what the player wants to do. If they get tired of their massive endgame afk farm world, they can turn around and go to a new world with the challenge of never building a single afk farm. Or they can install mods and afk farm that. Or do mods without afk. It depends on what the player wants to do. That's what makes this game so great though. Its virtually endless possibilities.

[@lazeroussdomain5862]

Ultimately, I only play modded so no automation is the name of the game. Expert mod packs often have progression requirements that would be so painfully grindy that no one would feasibly get through them manually. The whole point is to build better and better automation to allow you to pass through the increasingly demanding requirements. This design and management aspect is what I find to be the most enjoyable.

[@PlayerZeroStart]

Another thing, if you're at a point where you can build machines that do everything and have no need to go out and do things yourself, I say you've already pretty much done everything and, in my opinion, should just start a new save.

[@discontinuedchannel3587]

Redstone is the mechanical system of the game. Like mechanical electronic devices, such as computers, if something negative happens, you need to tamper with the hardware which can either make or break the system. Its a gamble

[@Belisimoo]

DATBLOCK GANG!!

[@Malryth]

How to Survive and Thrive in Minecraft. Another KZbinr used that for his videos. For me, it's the challenge of starting from nothing and getting to a state where you have the resources and options to tinker with automatic this and that. For me, hunting for gold and redstone while avoiding nasties (and lava!) way waaay down....that's fun for me. Just my opinion....and hey...I really enjoy your Minecraft videos. Thanks. :)

[@omarb2653]

When you become an adult with more responsibility, there’s less time in the day to grind resources for 8 hours. Automation is an amazing thing

[@DevDev-kq1ri]

I would be fine with automatic farms but Minecraft relies heavily on media platforms for how to play for example you wouldn’t know how to get to the end if you didn’t know before hand so when automatic farms are easily available on KZbin it can make it too tempting just too tempting just to cheet

[@gregoryshortale]

I think that if afk farms are in endgame then idc but if it’s like straight away then that’s bad

[@runo6749]

Datblock Gang

[@pebblesss12]

mumbo jumbo you are afk.... im gonna take that mustache away.... mumbo mumbo mumbo afk... im gonna take that mustache awwaaayyy

[@Craxin01]

If you're going to build something tremendously large, having some way of automatically producing resources is very good. As for an economy... It's a game, there isn't really an economy. You still have to work to get villager trades, but with automation, you have to work far less and get far more in return. It's not like the real economy in which an overreliance in automation can destroy parts of an economy and cause other problems (pollution, crime, unrest, etc.) The most fun I have is building big structures, and automation makes that far more feasible.

[@greenv2127]

Well dat block gang is beating the world so I vote create The item cult Or Gnag Kcolb Tad

[@LR_Jenkins]

automatic farms can give you more opportunities to do what you want to, for example, a witch hut based redstone farm will lower your redstone mining time, thus increasing the time you have to use said redstone.

[@taffymatt1366]

XP is a pain the ass to get for me and others too, especially when you need 30+ levels to repair your one piece of armor or your sword, I followed Etho's blaze farm design and it works really well and I got tons of fuel and XP and can repair my armor with mending really easily

[@AwoudeX]

make... enderman... farm ^^ level 100 in a few minutes only

[@ItzDime]

Dude I’m just sitting here looking at all these short clips your making. That must be really difficult to do lol.

[@pyrdepavkki1601]

My opinion on this topic is: At least in my case, automatic farms are something, that helps you with building massive things. It could take hours to find enough iron for some big creations, so an iron farm technically makes building possible. Also, some of the farms are hard to make in survival.

[@GalliadII]

then why not play in creative mode?

[@chaosinternational3584]

3:10 its satisfying the fruits of your labor

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

As far as I am aware, automatic farms are good for the player, but bad for the game.

[@nullvoid3545]

i dont get it.

[@Yolbert]

for me i had no interest of playing minecraft. But last month i saw hermicraft and all its automatic farms. it makes me wants to to play minecraft. because u see digging a cave everyday is kinda boring i tought.

[@madeleineruusu]

Hermitcraft is amazing :D

[@HappyhipposMC]

Ah. Back in the day when raid farms were revolutionary...

[@alphacentary]

Farms were about the biggest reasons I played MC. Without them I would never touch the game again. Also this is why I advocate for having mineable/craftable spawners but I am sure that is a pipe dream because adding a fucking turtles is so important. The same goes for adapting enchantments so I have better than eff V etc. I am not saying make this easy, but it is why I play.

[@erickeller162]

Building the farms is what makes it fun. Then when I don't want to watch my farms tick, I build something fun and off the cuff, like fancy horse parkours or something. The point of minecraft is that it does it all and every play style has a place. Add to that, if I ever regret a farm, there is always tnt.

[@supertna9154]

It’s the same thing with No Mans Sky, Sims, Terraria and other games that share that aspect even though the Sims games are different but does have similar aspects to minecraft if you’re not placing things down in build/buy mode. Satisfactory and Factorio are the two main games which about automatic farms. Automatic farms are only bad for minecraft if you’re playing on online servers or realms. Multiplayer LAN games are questionable but automatic farms should never be used on large multiplayer servers or on realms you may cause the server to crash or make it unfair for everyone else on that server.

[@RealMrHater]

DATBLOCK GANG

[@ethanking4902]

Nice

[@mcraftinVewyFun]

6:26 7:11 LA6 ... 'how u even dunnot know how to make letter? -write it nice' its like this G. without to the end

[@cubicengineering4715]

I feel like so many of these points are countered by looking at the SciCraft server. For example the points about lag and needing to be around, they've found ways around those with chuckloadsing ect and if you say that's too technical... well what if I complained about dieing to mobs, you suggest I craft armour and say that crafting the perfect set of enchanted diamond armour while I'm still in a dirt block is too hard.

[@mitchellsedmak]

Absolutely. Minecraft is about exploring and building and surviving. It's not about sitting in the corner and letting resources stream into your inventory.

[@ozgurruh2535]

Why tho like minecraft is truly about how you want to play lets be real if you want to play hours for building a mega base and collecting resources you do it but like i feel like its not gonna be very fun for many players if you need to grind constantly and you talk like you cant build if you have farms

[@randomhardcoreplayer2096]

Let us play it how we want to

[@piclesyoutube5795]

I bought the game with my money, if you want to limit how I and other people play just give me the money I spent to buy my copy of the game.

[@dashrider3844]

the beauty of minecraft is that you are free to build, mine, farm whatever almost however you want. If you start to limit the ways people are allowed to play (AFK or NOT) you start to diminish part of what makes minecraft excellent.

[@sagoot]

Rays works made a lot of impossible farms: like enderdragon farm and shulker box farm.

[@tetsujin_144]

I just see this as the game supporting multiple play styles: Superficially the game is a kind of grindy experience - which can be enjoyable, certainly. But by allowing automated resource gathering, a feature that conventionally would be considered undesirable in almost any other game, it allows for the technical play style, which is about creating machines to eliminate a lot of the mundane chores of the game. That said I do think it's important to consider game balance in the technical aspects of the game. I feel the point of automated resource gathering is not to effectively turn Survival Mode into Creative Mode, but rather to give the player interesting challenges, in terms of designing and building machines to perform the automation. From that perspective I think it's appropriate for the developers to cultivate a set of interesting mechanics which makes automated resource gathering possible, but always with an eye toward keeping the mechanics interesting and challenging. So in some cases this might mean periodically changing the game mechanics *just* to screw with technical players and break their stuff, and force them to invent something new - or introducing nuances in the game (specific to a biome or a region of a world) that would necessitate tuning machine designs according to that setting - so that a player could still go on KZbin and find a farm design they could incorporate into their world, but getting it to perform at its best might still require some experimentation and tweaking. And I do think economy on multi-player servers is important. I don't think it's as simple as "players should be able to play how they want" because part of the purpose of the software is to cultivate an environment that lends itself well to good gaming experiences. So it may be worth nerfing certain farm designs at times to maintain a good game balance.

[@timbervandenhul9383]

I automate mondane tasks like food and sugarcane because that is really boring to me, but i don't automate things like iron golem farms because i like to explore caves and find different ores and mobs.

[@rafhaeltanedo]

And of course making a automated raid farm remove the fun of fighting them

[@Xninja729]

In hermitcraft most of their time is done doing something closly relating gambling, goofing off , starting wars and making money

[@jhonviel7381]

Redstone machines are what make Minecraft great. The game is pretty much virtual Legos. That being said the developers don't seem to embrace it enough and regardless the community goes above and beyond in their creations, auto farms being the most common. But I've been playing for so long straight vanilla Minecraft in both creative and survival isn't that stimulating anymore.

[@thekingofcardboard]

The whole point of minecraft is to play how you want. If someone is bored of gathering resources, i say they can automate it if they want. Also, anyone who has ever played Factorio knows: just because you've automated the construction of some resources, dosen't mean you are done playing.

[@MrHatoi]

I completely disagree on the totem of undying farm. The fact that totems are limited in supply doesn't make them special, it makes them mostly useless. Nobody actually uses them in survival because you get 2 or 3 per mansion and every mansion is thousands of blocks away from the last. For a consumable item, they're so rare that people don't want to lose them and would prefer to keep them as a trophy. I get that it has to be rare to keep it balanced but right now it's way too rare.

[@mohammedabdelhafez9507]

I don't like automatic farms that gives you a lot of items that you don't know what to do with (like the ones that mumbo builds), but if a farm is easy to build and gives resources you need like small iron farms, I'll build it.

[@shawnateiagd7697]

my opinion is that these farms are good as they show the level of innovation and brain power these farms are a testament to peoples long work and experimenting these farms show that the minecraft community has brain power and the creativity to make things like gold farms, iron farms, emerald farms, and totem farms some servers (like skyblock servers) even encourage this kind of stuff lastly of a personal note its fun to destroy a economy of a server or in some cases grow it (every major base on 2B2T has at least 4 aromatic farms)

[@charcoalgaming5791]

Where can I get that texture pack

[@epicdemic777]

My friend made an automatic kelp farm, so now we have a bunch of kelp we don't have any use for.

[@turtleguy123r3]

You a Could connect it up to an auto smelter and use it as fuel

[@TheMoafo]

Iron farm is totally doable in a minecraft day using villager mechanics. Any other farm would take at LEAST 45 minutes to build. Basically, I dont find that overly beneficial as you're likely still worried about food if you just spent your time building the iron farm, and you would be passively getting iron while you killed mobs or proceeded to make other farms. Best bet for a fully automated world is iron farm, afk fish farm, chicken farm. From there, Kill endermen and find a nether fortress. Really breaks the game down into 3 steps. Realistically any massive technical build is endgame. None of it could possibly affect the game more negatively than duplication

[@macjonte]

I don’t have that much experience but it feels like it takes more time to build the farm (including collecting materials) than manually just harvesting the resources you need. You don’t need a chest full of wheat 🌾 or sugarcane, you just need enough to.. yes to what? Build next farm? The main objective of the game? To have the feeling that you’re economical independent is a really nice feeling that motivates a lot of people in real life. The closest thing you come to money in Minecraft seems to be emeralds, and it takes a huge amount of resources to have unlimited of emeralds. Just as in in real life. The nice thing about Minecraft is that you can do whatever you want, just as irl. Some people get very specialized, and everyone has different goals, some just waste their time. Nothing wrong about it. Sometimes people just want to prove for them self that you could do it.

[@antoniadimitrova7451]

The only farms I can build are sugar cane farms, kelp farms and bamboo farms.

[@DedlyAidan]

The economy criticism was already fixed, by the exact server you mentioned earlier, they use diamonds for an economy which I feel is great, also economy plugins are dumb

[@wert1234576]

As some one who plays solo or with few friends aromatic farms save me so much time like who wants to fight dozens of mobs and those freaking flying f@cks just to get a few bones when I can just make a death trap....ima pick the trap