Are Case knife “Collectors” taking the fun out of case knives?

[@tombraley3212]

I agree with you wholeheartedly! Case puts out a quality, American made product at a pretty reasonable price. At their core, they are a manufactured user knife, and if someone wants to hold them to handmade, custom standards, get your wallet out and get ready to FEEL the level of “precise quality control” that you’re looking for.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@tombraley3212 yes sir!

[@huntingfishingpraying]

So much truth spoken here. Thanks for sharing!! Awesome knives as well.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@huntingfishingpraying thank you sir

[@dp505knives]

I have about 100 Case knives, and I live in a rural area and buy 1 knife a month online and I personally have great sucess with my purchases. CASE produces thousands of knives per day and keeps all of America supplied. Go Case. Knives are tools to do simple jobs and it just so happens they look cool.

[@R.H.bladeNshade]

Man you hit the nail on the head. I agree with you brother. I didn’t used to pay attention to fit and finish nearly as much as i do now. I also feel like YT has definitely rubbed off on me when it comes to finding the flaws in knives as well. Somethin’ i could work on for sure. I really appreciate your content man you always tell how you feel and stand by it and i’m all about that. Thanks for sharing brother take care.

[@hillbillyridgeoutdoors]

I agree with this statement 100%. I'm gonna try to do better and not nit pic as much!!

[@865knives]

I honestly do agree! Coming from someone who uses all of mine they little “flaws” don’t bother me too much!! I do enjoy just showing them off and not hearing about all the gripes!! Thanks for sharing! You got a table plum full of bangers!!

[@bigjsknives]

Man, spot on brother!! A lot of people complain but forget what these blades were meant to do. My Smokey Valley 75 has gaps and rub but I used it hard and everyone enjoys when I show it. I got old and new with flaws and love em all. To me I don’t get the thrill out of catalog buying as much as digging thru flea markets and antique stores or even trading. Most of my collection is from in person second hand buying/trading!! Thanks for sharing brother!!

[@אלכסס-ח5ג]

I use all my case knives and to be honest I won't feel comfortable using a knife with a huge gap in the spring, big enough to get things through it to the other side, and having a blade bent so much you can see it. Sorry i just dont think its safe. But that's an extreme most case knives are fine.

[@terrillschneider3778]

You and me both Wes I have about 120 Case Knives

[@bigjsknives]

@@אלכסס-ח5ג How does a gap in a back spring make a blade unsafe?

[@dp505knives]

It is better to be a Knife Enthusiast and drive 2008 pickup truck, than be a critic wishing for a Porsche. IMHO

[@Jimthechevywheelman]

I’m drivin a ‘o3 chevy ,, good point ( transplanted yankee ,,, gosh I love rust free southern vehicles).

[@pa1adin111]

Yup. 2001 Chevy Tahoe driver here. I love my Case knives and I use em.

[@Bobs_Pocket_Knives]

I'm in the Case Collectors Club, and for me part of the fun is finding that perfect specimen. When there's no gaps and the blade is centered and rock solid with smooth pivot action these knives are a work of art! When they're good they're amazing, but when they're bad it's noticable and understandingly disappointing.

[@jasonbeecher509]

I can honestly say that I order directly from case and get fantastic looking and functioning knives. I hear you about not getting time off. As a dairy farmer I never get a day off. Fantastic looking case knives

[@michaelmorrison4843]

Case used to take more pride in their knives and were absolute gems! Maybe the powers that be at Zippo are more interested in cranking out knives, and not as concerned about their quality! Since Zippo owns Case! Do better Case, we love your knives, but there needs to be better quality control! 🤔😱👍

[@samrodriguez9864]

I totally agree with ur video,so I recently started collecting case knives I've learned a lot about case knives in fact I've purchased a large trapper last week ,and a large stockman the other day. My stockman is beautiful,but has gaps.and guess what I dont care .it's a beautiful knife period.im not perfect neither are my knifes.thanks for your video.im learning a lot .

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@samrodriguez9864 awesome buddy, glad you enjoyed the video! I was much like you, my first couple knives I bought, I never even thought to look for the little flaws. Then through watching others videos and reviews I started noticing them, and to be honest it’s much more enjoyable to just appreciate it for what it is- a beautiful tool.

[@TravisTheCaseGuy]

Brother i feel you on this one. I feel like ive been out here trying to defend case for 4 years now. I work for Nissan and we assemble the engines. We have defects and flaws all the time. I mean were human and they demand that line to stay running at a certain speed and people will miss stuff and mess up. Its going to happen. If that happens to 30k-50k vehicles it is going to happen to pocket knives. I bet someone who blasts case for fit and finish has a fit and finish flaw in their most expensive vehicle that they don't even know about just due to the fact that they dont know what to look for. I feel you brother. I feel you

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@TravisTheCaseGuy excellent points Travis, thanks for sharing that point of view, you’re exactly right. Thanks for watching brother

[@fredcox6994]

22:32 I too have thought how exhausting it is to hear all the nitpicking. To me, a knife needs to be functional and good looking, but small flaws are acceptable. To that end, I buy most in person so that I am quality control and the seller has to be ok with me cherry-picking. What I buy thru the mail gets a once-over, but I've only once sent one back for a huge pin crack in a new knife. On a side note, I feel some of the pin cracks are caused by too stiff a backspring, so if a knife doesn't close like a bear trap I'm ok as long as I don't have to push it closed. Good video and you're right, the warranty is there for a reason and it's a good one.

[@MikeAvery-bm5ek]

Great video and great knives, some people are never happy.

[@J.O.VenturesOutdoors]

Good video Wes! I do think I tend to focus on critiquing the knives (Case and other brands as well) rather than just enjoying a good addition to the collection. I just got a Case Barlow in a trade for leatherwork and its not perfect.. but there is more to it.. who I traded with, the history, how it looks, nostalgia of adding a Case to the collection, etc. I'm somewhat guilty of focusing on the critique rather than the joy of collecting. I did send a Case back once but it was definitely a problem that could affect the function of the knife. And, Case took care of it! Appreciate you brother! Blessings to you and your family!

[@carolinaknives]

Great video definitely agree. 👍

[@BennyBraves]

Yes, you’re right. Go to the flea markets or go to antique stores and find your perfect knife. USA all the way friend! Great video

[@dm1523]

I just bought a new Case trapper. I took the gamble and ordered it off Amazon. I was very pleased with what I got. The main thing is the snap. I hate to have weak pull and snap. But this one was really pretty good. I don’t really think to much about what other people think one way or another. I’ll buy and use what I like. I do like to see and get detailed looks at new knives. - Copperlocks are one of my favorite patterns too. The slim profile of a copperlock always looks nice. And for some reason they seem to have less issues than other patterns.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@dm1523 yes sir, it can be a gamble for sure, glad you got a good one! And yea I’m right there with ya on the Copperlocks, I love them!

[@GunSlingerCal]

That was just one thing i never liked to touch on either. Its a waste of time, they are happy with thier quality control they have stated.

[@bostonbladereviews919]

I 100% agree with you on all accounts brother bottom line is you’re gonna get a gap in a knife here or there does it really hurt the functionality of the blade? I think not .. way too many people complaining and like you said if it’s that bad, just send it back, also our grandfathers did not give a damn about a little gap in the back of the knife. They used it and used it for years. Great video Wes.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@bostonbladereviews919 thanks Kevin, I appreciate you brother!

[@chadm8868]

I agree 100% with what you said here. My only caveat is that if you are someone who just needs a good pocketknife in your pocket and can’t afford a Case, there ARE choices out there.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@chadm8868 this is true, I’ll agree. But I have also found some really nice case knives like full sized trappers for $30 on eBay so they are out there for about the same price as a lot of Chinese made stuff

[@georgia_adventurer]

Yep!! I’m a Case guy…always will be. Nothing made by hand is perfect. I don’t care if the blade is off center a little, or a small gap! They have the best bone! I’m also not paying $200 for a case knife. They could do better…but I’m going to buy CASEXX until I’m in the ground.

[@jerseyknifeguy6382]

You’rere absolutely right brother!!!!! If your not going to expect gaps and off centered blades just stay away from them because if you get one through the mail chances are your going to be disappointed……. There quality control is way down but I still buy them knowing what to expect it’s the luck of the drawl thanks for the video your spot on I agree with you thanks for putting this out…… stay well brother 😊

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@jerseyknifeguy6382 thanks for checking it out Pete! You stay well too, brother! 🇺🇸

[@wardog2913]

i agree 100 percent.good talk.

[@hillbillyridgeoutdoors]

Thanks for this video. I agree, I never used to be so critical but seems now I am BUT I'm gonna do better! Almost all of my knives are gonna get used. A small gap or a blade slightly off centered won't make any difference. I do agree that Case should do better but I also agree that I, for one, have been too critical of a tool! This video is spot on and very thought provoking!

[@davidkurle5418]

Well said, buddy!! Awesome video!

[@SuperTeamvip]

Bravo! Well said man.

[@Markfin816]

Amen to that great video 👊

[@matthewhall8790]

I guess I collect, but mostly I just like knives. I probably only have a dozen that I would say I've collected. I'm not super picky, I can handle a little imperfection in Case. I only have a couple Case knives, neither are perfect, but I use them. I've got a Texas Jack and a Sod Buster Jr. I'm also a USA made guy at heart. I own several imports, but I've only purchased 2 imported knives in the last 30 years. I still carry an old Kutmaster Utica that my grandpa gave me in the early 80's and it was his knife for I don't know how long before that. I'd bet that knife is more than 60 years old. Cheers!

[@ix8750]

I just got my first Case knife this month. It was a Sodbuster Jr. The crossroads version, with the screw construction and a s35vn blade. I plan to get a pin construction bone handle one but I cant seem to find any in a shade that I want that are in stock online so I thought maybe ill go check around for a local dealer or something... I live up north so I dont seem em as often in stores.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@ix8750 eBay is a great place to get them

[@robertbarker5802]

Case quality is all that stops me from being a Case collector. I bought a handful of RR's because I wanted to try silly things that might ruin a knife like soaking in vinegar or peroxide. But it was a bit shocking when I realized none of them required you to open one blade to be able to open another, if blades do rub it's minimal at worst, and the overall fit and finish was shocking. The worst complaint was the black stuff that people say is factory polishing media. So I get the Case complaining when I have to resort to buying in person only. It hurts when a factory in China can pump out quality that beats the pants off a US product. I guess Case is happy with their quality but that doesn't require me to be happy with it.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@robertbarker5802 I don’t care if you like them or not, this video was never to sell you a case knife, I just get tired of the bitching. Case isn’t watching them so who are they for? It’s like yelling at a football game on tv. I have 80 something case knives and they’re all bangers, people just gotta learn to be smart about how they buy them

[@robertbarker5802]

@@doomcrewoutdoors1613I get. At least mostly. I just feels like we’re always making excuses for them and why we like them. It feels like being stuck in an abusive relationship.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@robertbarker5802 I’m just saying if you’re having that bad of luck, maybe stop buying them or at least stop buying them sight unseen. I’m not making any excuses for them, we should be able to trust that when we buy them we’re getting a good product. My thing is, I’m just a knife enthusiast and I’d like to see a video of a knife from time to time that was just a nice show and tell rather than a long drawn out pissing and moaning. I have about 75 case knives and all of them are totally acceptable or better. They are out there you just gotta go find em.

[@robertbarker5802]

@@doomcrewoutdoors1613 So I found a 47, the three blade medium stockman where they made all the blades straight. I love that pattern so I never carry that one and just enjoy having it. One of the covers fell off. Close inspection it looks like they didn't set the pins right as it slides right back on flush fit. Beautiful knife in a pattern I very much enjoy and it fell apart. This isn't bitching and moaning. I seriously don't know how to feel.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@robertbarker5802 I totally understand that! And that’s not at all what this video is about, that knife should be sent back for repair. Was it a smooth bone or synthetic cover by chance?

[@PensandPenBlades]

Great video and completely agree with you! Some of that being overly critical about Case knives rubbed off on me and videos like this have helped me set more realistic expectations. I still need to get better at not being so nitpicky in my videos though. These tools are made by people, so they are bound to have a flaw here or there. As long as the knife is safe to use and functional, any flaws don't bother me. I use most of my knives anyway and the ones I don't use are because it has some personal or sentimental value and I don't want to use it (I'm trying to get better about that last part.) The worst quality Case knife I own is a Peanut in the PB and J series; the blades are literally touching the liners. I was torn about sending it back or to Case's warranty, because they had sold out. Then I thought, I want to use the knife anyway. So what if it has bad centering, I'm going to use it and enjoy it. It is part of the collecting experience looking for that perfectly made knife, but it's the exception and the reason it's sought after. Thanks for sharing and have a great day! P.S. I forgot about blade rap. That is one flaw that does bother me, but not a deal breaker.

[@RonaldNorwood-kn4bo]

Good, bad, happy or sad. Make no difference to me. But I do enjoy hearing a man using his freedom of speech to the fullest. Hats off to ya friend.

[@LarryReynolds591]

Spot on man. I don't have enough knives that I can't rotate them out over a couple week period or so, but I can't complain too much with the ones I've gotten. I've had a couple with blade rap, which is hard to find right away, but Case replaced one and I just ground down the other one. Love my case knives and look forward to pass them down to my kids.

[@paulhanley5811]

I'm Irish , live in London , love case knives they cost a wee bit here but they are some of my favourite knives , small gaps don't bother me , not quite centre not a big deal , would I like them to be perfect sure would , I only have 20 case knives and have only sent one back to the dealer because of verry bad blade play , the replacement was in my opinion great , not perfect , I do have a bigger Boker collection , in the UK Boker is not as expensive as across the pond , between the two firms not sure who turns out more knives , probably case , but Boker have less in my opinion issues , gapping , blade play , transitions and Q C in general , will still continue to get Case knives ,I just love them , It is a lottery , but one I mostly win or at least break even , love your content , by the way i do get the odd Chinese knife , they make some good stuff too , latter's tatters , p

[@richterknives]

Enjoyed this video bud. Great points.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@richterknives thanks buddy! isn’t it more fun when guys just talk knives and gear and stuff over constant whining and critiquing? I believe so! Thanks for stopping by bud!

[@richterknives]

@@doomcrewoutdoors1613 you are 100% right

[@AWCustomDesigns]

I agree with you buddy! Don’t really care to watch someone just sit there and complain about a knife..I usually just click on the next video when someone starts complaining about Case. 😆 I’ve had a few Case knives show up with issues, but I like tinkering and fixing things so it doesn’t bother me. It’s really easy to straighten a blade or tighten up a pivot if people would just try and stop getting frustrated about it.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@AWCustomDesigns 💯

[@JoelPerri7777]

I just started collecting pocket knives in like 2021, and I def love the vintage slipjoints. I tend to not buy too many Case knives cuz the market is crazy high on them, for the older ones, which are to me, the really cool looking ones. Ppl def bitch way too much about gapping, blade centering, light blade rub. Blade wobble is my pet peeve, so that’s what I’m usually most concerned with, cuz I’m more of a user collector. But I get it, for what they charge, they should be nicer. I’ve gotten rough Ryders for $15 that were as nice, if not nicer in build quality and fit and finish. That def saddens me a little. If they were a little cheaper like bear and sons, I’d prob be more into them. But I do love finding an old case, that needs cleaning or a little blade re-profiling, for a cheap price. Those old ones were really something special. Cool video man

[@MountainAjar]

Whoa you nailed it man. All the way through.

[@tankt13]

I’m new to Case knives but I’ve been a watch collector for a good while so QC issues are nothing new to me. I’ve seen reviewers obliterate a watch company because the watch they were sent had a SLIGHTLY misaligned bezel and honestly it takes the joy out of collecting. One knife reviewer called his new Case a literal piece of crap and here I am saying to myself, “Dude if you hate it that much I’d LOVE to take it off your hands.” I came into this hobby knowing they’re not going to be immaculate and mind you I need to order my Case knives online because they don’t sell them where I live. I’m just happy to be here watching and learning from folks like you and I really appreciate what you’re doing. Sending you all the best from Guam good Sir

[@SteelCityKnives]

Im with you 💯 brother!! Brilliant video 👊 Man, people think this is a new problem. The 3rd George Wolstenholm (1800s), the one who really put the company on the map. His dozen was 14 😂. He did that to sack off the couple that had issues, I believe. Hand-made products will never be perfect all the time. It's also price dependent. I bought a new Case soddy green Deep Canyon jig. I got it for £43 knives and tools sale. It's got a small gap, and blades not centred. I dont care. The things sweet and I bought a USA made knife for £43 😮. I've had it in the pocket today😊. I use a lot of mine, and they end up getting dinks and scratches anyways. A little gap or blade centring is the least of their worries having me as the owner 😂. I bloody love your videos!! I'll be honest with you. I was about to give youtube up. But man, you fired me up.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@SteelCityKnives awesome buddy!! Glad I fired you up! I’ve been down on KZbin lately myself, can’t just get on a see a cool knife, it always seems to get negative and I hate that… thanks buddy!!

[@Oshianis]

I just ordered my first Case Mini Trapper in Yellow Derlin from Blade HQ. I bet the quality will be fine. I haven't ordered a bad blade from blade HQ yet.

[@Preacher2727]

Are you alright? You keep having a blank mind. Please get that checked out. Love you bro. Always like your content.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@Preacher2727 I was outside and I kept getting distracted during this video. Yes I am fine.

[@christianmcbride9905]

Hey first time viewer here, really enjoyed your monologue sir. Ive recently been bitten by the slip joint bug, and i too have noticed that pretty much everyone complains about Modern Case quality control, or lack there of lol. And while yes that very much seems to be the Case(see what i dod there ;) ), we've all heard it so its not breaking news no more. It also seenms that Case is just fine with how things are going for them, sales are good so why would they ever spend more $ when they dont need too? Maybe focusing on other more positive aspects of their cutlery might make for more interesting content, but eho the hell am i to say? Anyways thanks for the video, im sure ill be back

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@christianmcbride9905 thanks for stopping by! I’m glad you enjoyed it and you said it perfectly, I agree with everything you just said, hope to see you around!

[@chicken-little8620]

i love all the ones i had especially the sod buster jr except for the mini tooth pick really soft

[@haveaknifeday6253]

Good video and I agree with a lot you said. If I am ever in North AL again I will reach out to trade with you. Gonna start hitting the flea markets around here a bit more.

[@AmericanCajunPride]

You talk about the exact reason I don't "share" my collection. Everybody wants to prove they are the smartest person in the world. I stick to the old rule of collecting, "collect what YOU like." I really don't care if anyone else approves my knives.

[@diverdave2179]

I buy my Case knives secondhand, but have been lucky so far. I don't mind flaws much, just consider myself fortunate that I can get Case knives into Asia. Still have to get one of those with script shields though. Thanks Wes!

[@MPerry-ox9qb]

Great Eastern Cutlery set the bar extremely high. Especially, with younger collectors that came over from modern knives. Until GEC there tended to be issues with traditional knives. None were perfect. New collectors don’t understand this. It used to be American made Queen/Schatt & Morgan knives that were the focus of the hate, since they came closest to GEC material wise, with pinned shields. Now they are gone and with GEC so hard to buy from distributors people are now turning to Case to kill their knife addiction need and are upset they are so far off quality wise. Really the complaints aren’t a bad thing. Case needs to produce fewer and concentrate on quality. I’d pay more for a quality knife. With that said, I like Case knives & usually buy off EBay, since you can see pictures of the actual knives. I purchased 2 in the last 24 hrs.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@MPerry-ox9qb I agree with you, but my point is, us “wishing” case would do better, isn’t making case so better. It sucks, I agree, but as a fan of case knives and someone who just likes checking out other peoples knives and collections, I’d much rather just see that knife and admire it for the tool that it is and not be bombarded with all the nit picky little flaws it has

[@jeffjackson5331]

Sweet collection bud. You have a wonderful week my friend. I do keep up with Jones's but not in the way you mentioned it lol. I have family with the last name Jones

[@jeremyspaulding7735]

Well said! Great video 👍

[@Walkingman.45]

Another POV is that we live in such an amazing time and place, unlike any other in human history and it’s easy to have nitpicky bs to complain about because we have time and the internet. We are blessed to have such abundance and even just in this little niche, variety of choices. That said, I’ve never had a bad CopperLock, stockman or copperhead, but dang if they aren’t hard to find.

[@darrellbroomhall7020]

Thanks for the great vlog.

[@WVKNIFEGUY]

You're right buddy. Case QC is what it is, and they arent going to change it cause of people bitching on their video. People need to just buy Case either in person, or from someone/ somewhere they can ask seller about the fit/finish before buying. Another thing to do is go for lightly used older case knives (80s-90s). The older ones are generally better fit/finish than the brand new ones coming out. Really enjoyed your video though. Your copperlock collection is freaking amazing!!!

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@WVKNIFEGUY thanks Tyler! Always appreciate your feedback! Thanks for checking it kind and thanks for the support!

[@void1984]

The situation in Europe is much worse. I pay full price to an American online shop, shipment, tax, customs, and in the end I unbox a lemon. I support your message. A second hand Case is worth more to me than a random one in an online shop.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@void1984 I feel for you guys over there, I realize that is very tough. And yeah, the message here isn’t about defending case knives, basically just how I enjoy videos of seeing cool knives and talking about cool knives way more than I like to watch someone bitch and moan about one for 15 minutes, when it’s really not changing the situation at all

[@void1984]

@@doomcrewoutdoors1613 I totally agree. I've mentioned it, just as a reminder that not everyone can access a second hand market. Spyderco is very global, and Case is very American-centric.

[@asmacr.8391]

Got mine 2weeks ago it's not bone but i love it so much!! Richlite copperlock full size!!

[@rcjoe406]

I've never left a rant review on Amazon I just send it back and never buy from that company again in a little way my point is made to that company...good points brother my ace hardware has casevin a case lol I can look at them a pick the one i like.. plus there is a old antique shop that has hundreds of old knifes throughout the store old case buck ect its incredible 😊

[@Theknifenutbige]

I agree with you 100% man

[@gladeshunter8796]

I hand pick my case knives at a local hardware store . In my experience QC could be better but it’s not an issue if you hand select the knife .

[@chrisreuther4546]

This is a great video! Thanks! I love my Case Knives... as long as they function right... I am good... and not rubbing! are you a member of the Case Collectors club?

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@chrisreuther4546 not yet, one day maybe! Thanks for stopping and checking out the video!

[@littlemanscorner1718]

I hear ya, but I hear the others too. Case is case at this point and people are people. Everyone has an opinion and a smart phone.

[@littlemanscorner1718]

Those Slipjoint Guy guy videos were great

[@markeslinger7051]

Sounds like you had a good first date experience with that guy lol

[@RoubidouxCreekOutdoors]

Honestly Case is riding on the Old name and dont care about product quality and the buyer experience. That was for sure seen at the Blade show this year. Just how I see it . I still buy a new one here in there but it’s places I can walk in and walk out with it. Like I always say “ Different Strokes for Different Folks” lol 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🫡

[@RoubidouxCreekOutdoors]

It’s a dog eat dog world out here in the knife world channels. It’s a one up series lol. I agree with you, I don’t click on those kind of videos anymore. There is 10k knife channels out there, that’s why I’m mixing things up. I agree with you lol and I go to buy a new knife I go in places I can touch it.

[@markjg2275]

I have a Case Barlow and it is nice I have no complaints on my knife. I also have Rough Ryder and Queen knives made in China and their quality and finish is even better than My Case for much less in price. If Case does not care about quality control they should sell their knives for $20.00-$30.00 not $60.00 to over $80.00 dollars. I was lucky to buy many GEC knives over the years they are very nice quality but very expensive now and difficult to buy. So, I am going to buy more Case knife patterns instead of the hard to buy GEC knives.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@markjg2275 I get that some RR are built very well for the price, the couple I have are nothing to write home about though. The biggest thing for me, is when I’m at work or church, or wherever, and a couple fellas wanna start talking about knives, I get absolutely zero pride out of pulling a Chinese knife outta my pocket. Say what you want but there’s a certain look on someone’s face when they’re handling a nice case knife. Sure there are bad ones and case should do better, or like you say, lower their price but I’ll never become a Chinese RR fan and supporter.

[@markjg2275]

@@doomcrewoutdoors1613 I agree, I just had a couple Rough Ryder outdoor series that are quite nice and Queen sawcut bone. I am not buying anymore Chinese knives of any make; I just bought a Case Trapper in Lizard skin with clip and Wharncliffe blades from Shepherd hills and I should get that one soon. I really like my GEC knives their quality is just excellent. Though I like my Case knives too and will buy more.

[@Marlowscustomleather]

Your right brother ,100%

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@Marlowscustomleather 👍🏼 thanks for checking it out!

[@BaxtersBlades]

I appologize Wes if Im one that is taking the fun out of collecting Case. I do point out the problems just to make people aware of what they may be getting into with online ordering. I do keep most of these with minor issues well because I love Case. Great video and nice copperlocks brother. ⚡🐯

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@BaxtersBlades all good brother! I know cases aren’t perfect but I’m just missing the times where everything wasn’t so critical in our everyday lives, I know when I get together with guys at church or wherever and we pass out knives back and forth, we just admire them talk about them and pass them around, it’s never a discussion of quality in terms of fit and finish, just dudes admiring knives 😊thanks for the kind words my friend!

[@Tarheelsteel]

I think this is a pretty fair assessment. I think you understand why we all get so frustrated spending good money on a crap product. Ive adjusted the way I buy my new Case knives because damn theyre gorgeous when done right and I refuse to quit buyng them. I know you probably don't watch my videos but i did do one bitch fest video lol. I don't plan on doing one every day like some channels do. I totally see your point about picking up every new knife from every retailer and complaining about them all. Its doesn't make for a fun viewing experience. Keep up the good work man. I wish you had time to post more than once a month because i enjoy the content but I respect the hussle brother.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@Tarheelsteel thanks brother, I have seen a video or two of yours, I’m pretty sure I’m subbed too, sometimes I just listen to videos while at work and then I don’t get back around to responding! Thanks for stopping by and thanks for the kind words!

[@Heavydutyrocknroll]

Those are some beautiful trappers and copper locks. I was talking to one of the guys with Smokey Mountain Knife Works at the Texas blade show and he said it basically didnt matter to case that much because no matter what the issue is there are more people that will buy a flawed kinife and not complain than complain. Im like you about buying Case knives online. But i don't seeing things changing unfortunately.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@Heavydutyrocknroll yep, that’s exactly my thoughts, it’s clearly not a big enough problem for them to change for the better! Thanks for watching!

[@georgia_adventurer]

You are absolutely correct Domecrew! I think they make over 600 knives a day, GEC is 65…I Think!

[@TucoDog-ho6fw]

I bought a GEC back when collector knives always had several models available. I appreciate how nice it is and intended to buy more. I am retired and still don’t have time to fool with searching and searching to find them. I also refused to pay the ridiculous aftermarket prices people try to get for them. So I continue to collect Case brand folders.

[@georgia_adventurer]

I buy mine on eBay…I look at the pics, but I buy at local hardware stores…I bought a Yellow Delrin 75 Saturday at an Ace Hardware…it’s near perfect.

[@Hunting4Hookers]

I totally get it. I get both points of view. I personally have stated many times that If it’s cool, I like it, it’s sharp and I can sharpen it, I’m happy! I don’t care much about gaps and small stuff. I did buy a copperhead that wasn’t even ground. There was no edge . Like it never went to the grinder. I ground it and put it on a stone and all was good! I then bought a Kinzua that literally fell apart. I guess both sides really have an argument. The biggest issue with Case is that they have been known for 100 years to have fantastic quality and they have built a name on that reputation. But in the past decade they have turned a deaf ear to the customer and act like they don’t care because fans will buy them anyway. I completely get your point and part of me agrees! But as you said in the beginning if someone spends their hard earned money, they deserve what they paid for. My biggest fear is that Case is going the way of a lot of American companies and it won’t end well! I hate to lose an American icon !

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@Hunting4Hookers yeah, me too! And this video was never about defending WR Case, but rather to just suggest that it’s a way more enjoyable experience (for me anyway) to just sit down and see a guy show off a knife or two and just enjoy it for what it is and not make every case video a quality Bash. I know some of them are bad, and if they’re that bad send em back! That’s the only way to get their attention cause I guarantee you W.R. Case isn’t sitting down every Monday morning and watching any of our videos. You know at church there’s several of us guys that like pocket knives and after preaching we all get together and check out what everyone is carrying, and NEVER do we sit and nit pick the knives apart, we just enjoy them for what they are and enjoy the fellowship of it

[@lcurtsinger4313]

Your tight i agree, Ive felt this way for dome timec now, and a no china guy as well

[@MountainAjar]

Great conversation man . Peace ☮️

[@KnifeKrazy.]

🇺🇸🇺🇸‘Merica. 🇺🇸🇺🇸 100%

[@thunderbolt5354]

Now make sure and check for any Tiny GAP !!! God forbid a Case Knife have a tiny GAP !!!!

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@thunderbolt5354 exactly 🤣

[@SHANECatLovinActivistHistorian]

the really sad thing is that it costs $100 to buy a simple pocket knife

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@SHANECatLovinActivistHistorian not necessarily. I only have about 3 that cost $100. You just gotta know how to buy them

[@SHANECatLovinActivistHistorian]

@@doomcrewoutdoors1613 the lowest cost case trapper i can find online is the plastic yellow ss for about 54. I dont think any old timer from days gone by would pay case prices these days for a pocket knife. Just like guns, collector craze drives prices to obsurd levels

[@Jimthechevywheelman]

I’m a very simple guy 66 young . Most of my collection is 20 plus years old. Most of which is camillus (Some of which is becker , western remington) , schrade ( mostly dad ‘s collection ). And some others.. Recognizing limited resources and room . I was afraid to get into case because of the variety.. It just seemed to be too much… I know they’re good knives. But it was just too big of a black hole that I may not have been able to hold myself back from.. I know personally case collectors and their collections are huge!! Now when I buy collections of guy stuff .. or somehow another come across a good case.. I usually trade it for something I don’t have in the line of above mentioned.. Just like looking at Jay Leno’s collection of cars .. I can admire the beauty and respect the quality without wanting to own it.. admire from a far.

[@TRONABORON]

What I have been experiencing is poor packaging- when I get it it is full of scuffs, scratches. 😐

[@casexx94]

Great video, didn’t see a single thing wrong with any knife you had on the table, subscribing now. I’m N. Alabama as well, how far N are you?

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@casexx94 nice, I live in Eva, just north of cullman county line!

[@Heavydutyrocknroll]

One thing that drives me nuts is when someone makes a video about how terrible their knife is and then they say they are not going to send it back. In my mind they are part of the problem.

[@Marlowscustomleather]

Man you have a awesome collection of copperlocks

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@Marlowscustomleather thank you sir!

[@hatcherhollerhoodlum4418]

I'm on board your your boat hoss👍 WVa here

[@bigjsknives]

The MotherLand!! Born & Raised in WV, moved away @ 27, can't wait to get back eventually!!

[@petemidwest1071]

It’s a tool! A pretty damn nice one at that, flaws and all! Great materials decent heat treat w/ the ability to obtain a screaming sharp edge. Cutting is what the tool is used for. And it’s optically pleasant to view. $90.00 ? Psssht… looking for art? prepare to pay $10,000.00! Then you can complain. Cry baby pee pee pants. SMDH!

[@decal1751]

I don't really mind a small gap or an off centered blade or even a splotchy dye job to a point. I do mind blades rubbing the liner and big gaps and just awful dye jobs everyone should expect a few imperfections especially in this day and age. Hell my most expensive knives have some flaws you can see. 😊

[@gizmocarr3093]

Meticulous collectors would have less problems buying from other meticulous collectors. I have a lot of Case knives many bought on eBay from looking at pictures of the one I bought. I send any Case knife back that needs fixed and Case fixes it. I sent four back out of 92 knives, one was over twenty years old. I figure that is not a bad average because I am meticulous too. KZbin channels pick on Case because they can. Many are sponsored or review free knives from China and other brands. Case doesn’t give out free knives to KZbin knife channels. If you buy a GEC knife, they average double the price if you are lucky to get one on a drop. If not, you pay more, if you buy from second hand sellers. There is a difference from making five or six hundred knives from making five or six thousand knives. I get a laugh from seeing the same people complaining about Case knives regularly. If you buy knives, you don’t like why buy them to complain about. It boils down to armchair experts that like copying from other armchair experts. Some knife collectors cannot sharpen a knife or peel an apple without messing it up. Case does care if you ask me because they have a good warranty if you use it when you need too.👍👍

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@gizmocarr3093 I agree with you 💯 I said I didn’t think they cared only because they’re not really making any changes with so many people complaining, but you’re right they still have the warranty and most won’t use it because it’s too “inconvenient” makes no sense to me, thanks gizmo!

[@cdn2862]

I've bought many more good Case knives than bad ones.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@cdn2862 absolutely, same here

[@אלכסס-ח5ג]

Come on man i know you saw that guys white bone razor knife review, that gap was huge even by case standards and the blade was all bent. I agree with you i hate when people complain on every litte thing but this was beyond that. I'm not american its hard for me to get case or any quality slipjoint from the Us , i dont have any other option but to buy all of them online .sometimes the cost of shipping is half the price of the knife itself so imagine getting something like that. I cant just return it becuase it will cost me more than the knife and all the time I'll have to waste on that. I have quite a few case knife i love them all even though they all have some tiny flaws i dont care and i dont expect them all to be gec quality because they make a lot more knives but i do wish they cared a bit more about their costumers because i know they can do much better.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@אלכסס-ח5ג you must’ve missed a few points I made- I said many times that case has sent out some atrocious knives and for that they should be ashamed, I did In fact see the razor you’re talking about and I would send that thing right back where it came from, what I’m talking about is just the little stuff, and how people complain about every single little thing. That razor was terrible, I agree. But a lot of the ones I see getting picked apart are not that bad at all. That’s my point, I was never trying to defend every knife that case sends out because I know some of them are horrible

[@RogueBlade-w5]

Right on man, I agree 100% Sick of the winey-ass girl scouts. All my recent Case purchases are fine users. Some new users & internet biggies are talking smack about Case. I've carried Case on off for 50+ years & collect more serious now. I sure don't wanna listen to a man who didn't know what a Case was a year ago knock the crap out of them' & say Case is way off their game today when they're out chasing them.... Case =USA not machined Rose smelling blades...whats up Doc? Thanks Doom

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@RogueBlade-w5 hell yeah brother! 💯

[@bigjsknives]

Right on!! 👍

[@brentelliott4764]

💯

[@dgoody84]

Your 1000% right. Dudes are lame af. Idgaf if your blade is 0.000000001 mm off center. I love Case and all these dudes do is buy to look for something wrong so they can send it back and maybe get something for free or discount.

[@dgoody84]

P.S. earned a sub

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@dgoody84 thanks buddy! You’re right, buy stuff just to bitch about it over and over and over again

[@radar468]

👍🏼

[@michaelroberts3220]

Each channel needs to gather attention/viewers/subscribers to themselves and therefor feel the need to show every detail of the box and then scrutinize all the fine minutiae of the knife itself ad nauseum. They want to come across as a difinitive expert no one could disagree with.

[@KernArms]

Well you’re right. Hmmm 🤔. No no you are right 👍

[@kentcostello5286]

Hay my wife says I have ( wat too many Case trappers) . My collection takes a 6 foot × 9 foot of my wall in my game room. You are write about it but there a American icon tho. Each knife is different tho like a snow flake .

[@markwilkerson-dz8pe]

yes

[@jjm6187]

Here's an idea. Buy more expensive traditional knives from higher quality manufacturers. It's pretty clear what you can expect from current production Case knives.

[@doomcrewoutdoors1613]

@@jjm6187 I’m not sure if you’re intending this for me or for the people I made this video about? Personally I don’t need any ideas on what to buy, I know how to buy case knives and I prefer slightly older ones anyway. As for higher end knives, they’re not really in my budget, I’ve had a couple GEC’s and yes they are great but I don’t personally have that kind of money laying around usually. Now as for some of the guys I had in mind when I made this video, that buy one or two case knives a week and then bitch about them constantly, yes I’d say they should save their money and get fewer but better built knives.

[@HWGAFoundation]

With all due respect, a typical mass produced American product, you never know what you are going to get..

[@bdh3949]

Can't speak for collectors but if I am on the fence about a particular knife and all the videos are disappointing reviews I probably wont go for it. Otherwise I like both trading and buying new. But when buying used vintage knives I expect to see some character for sure.