Are CINEMA CAMERA'S Pointless in 2021?

[@PeterMcKinnon]

Is the gap closing?

[@abhishekmahapure]

Absolutely yes!🔥

[@billhillock8971]

Especially when pairing a camera with an external recording monitor. Unlimited record times lots of extra features!

[@sweet4nice2003]

the gap is closing fast.....FX3 and the 7SIII is doing even great options as the cinema cams are doing. Watched Amondo's FX3 set up and that was so sick already...So the choice is indeed in what you want to see and Mirrorless cams are doing the most these day...Love your work Pete, can't wait to see ur next go to cam...😁🤘🏽

[@DeerghKataria]

Yes Sir 🙌

[@JeanGerber]

Yeah I think so ☝🏽 would still like a Red though 🤭

[@bojanarambasic944]

cinema cameras are for cinema shooting. imagine that :) when movie makes 100 millions, price of camera is not a big deal. real problem is when youtuber that have ton of money thinks that he needs red 8k camera and zeiss master primes lenses for room vlogs

[@chrisw5742]

lol the people that do that crack me up.

[@fabianmuller4285]

This.

[@krane15]

@@chrisw5742 It's overkill, but it doesn't hurt.

[@techtutorial9050]

True

[@MrE.888]

Actually the majority of production studios rent

[@AtlasASMR]

Epic video! Would love to hear thoughts on Blackmagic 6k

[@FlixStoryEntertainment]

I have a 4K with a nice lens and I love the look.

[@Citizenflaba]

It'll be a contender in a few years when its internal NDs match the 10 stops canon offers and the AF is on par with how canon/sony AF isnat now in 2021, that and finally offering a fullframe body

[@sammymorales6838]

@@Citizenflaba full frame bodies are overrated....most movies in history have been shot on Super 35

[@Aman_Mondal]

I am planning on the BlackMagic 6k too along with a Panasonic S5 and Fujifilm XT4

[@Aman_Mondal]

@@sammymorales6838 Yes but anyone can easily crop on the sensor and go into the APS-C mode also Cinema APS-C is slightly larger horizontally than the normal APS-C this does allow me to get a wider shot to reframe later on in a full frame

[@BigBeauBrown]

SOLID points bro. Hence why I sold my scarlet. The perfect in between. Red. Komodo. Love this thing.....Yet a few months later, I still use my FX3 more hahaha. There is no winning.

[@michelemomo2978]

Recently shot a project on Komodo, needless to say that image quality is great, but not practical at all to use, especially as a one man crew... Really Komodo was born to be a B-Camera for her bigger sisters at RED

[@ShawnShaman]

I think cinema cameras have a place... But they are becoming dinosaurs. Technology is moving quicker then they can keep up with.

[@BigBeauBrown]

@@bradleyc6564 couldn't agree more

[@virgilhawkins5680]

I want an FX3 so badly but I'm destitute.

[@NiruReghu]

Peter: do you really need a RED camera for KZbin? MKBHD: *hold my beer*

[@ChrisParayno]

At the end of the day it's content over video quality

[@RockyLeong]

Linus Tech Tips: Hold my 12K camera.

[@DaCarnival]

@@RockyLeong Those cameras were a clear step-back in image quality for the channel. K's are not everything... or even much of anything.

[@starnutron6147]

@@RockyLeong reds and arri alexas are much superior in quality than blackmajic

[@mystarafilms]

@@starnutron6147 As a professional, I have to say that I disagree. With technology at the stage it is, RED, Arri, and Blackmagic all produce amazing images that to an untrained eye are indistinguishable. Graded right, and using the same lenses, I doubt that the vast majority of even pros could tell the difference between any of them. Certainly if they could, the difference is so negligible that I wouldn't be worried by being forced to shoot a given project on any one of them. Edit: This applies primarily to the URSA Mini Pro and onwards, earlier Blackmagic cameras certainly had a number of issues that make them noticeably worse than a RED or Arri.

[@ProSmithMedia]

Two words: Dynamic Range. That is the reason that I continue to grab a cinema camera. I shoot a majority of my projects outdoors and being to capture the full spectrum of light (or as much as possible) makes a huge difference.

[@dean9504]

how many stops does it have?

[@BrendanEvan]

Also 12-bit color is something I aspire to

[@michelemomo2978]

Guys, not only that: built in nd filters, built in cooling system, xlr audio inputs, time code... etc. etc.

[@messyfilms6325]

My c100 mark ii is 12 stops in log but I think a lot of mirrorless have that nowadays as well.

[@Rygar91]

It may make a difference to you, a person who is into cameras, but the general population does not notice or care one single bit. Save your money.

[@peterlubega5562]

Watching from Uganda.. You're inspiring many here in my country.. It's your name they talk about 🇺🇬

[@moseslatigoodida8465]

gyebale ko ssebo

[@peterlubega5562]

@@moseslatigoodida8465 kale ssebo.. nawe jyebale

[@HonJazzz]

It’s all about scale. In the beginning stay lean and nimble. Don’t let anything get in the way of making content quickly. Once you have a team, you can start getting into the bigger cameras. Don’t bite off more than you can chew.

[@justinbuice]

Would love to hear your thoughts on new “entry level” cinema cameras like the Canon C70 or Sony FX3 which are smaller and priced like pro photo cameras 😁

[@srijonmondal8842]

Don't expect him to make a video on a sony video...

[@IZE_FILMS]

@@srijonmondal8842 I’ve been following him for a while now. Sony doesn’t exist in his world

[@NowyKurs]

C70 it’s a pro and fx3 more cool I guess.

[@O13J1]

Those are $4K cameras. Entry level cinema cameras are Zcam and black magic

[@Storysium]

Regarding the FX3: Unless you really need the XLR inputs, unlimited recording (cooling) and the tally lights, you could also go for a A7SIII. Same insides, but cheaper and has a view finder.

[@ih2n]

Peter: "You've got brands like Canon, Sony, Fuji..." Me (Nikon shooter): Well... =(

[@kaikayoru1316]

nobody ever mentions Panasonic :/

[@ih2n]

@@kaikayoru1316 And it is very good too.

[@broaf]

@@kaikayoru1316 and most M43 users still forget about Olympus...

[@rebecaivan6674]

I am also a Nikon user.... And I felt the same😂😂👍

[@messyfilms6325]

Nikon doesn’t count.

[@martymorissette]

I remember when I made a video for a client… I walked in with my iPhone 11 on a tripod with a mic clipped on top and a soft box…. And his words… is that your phone !? Haha imagine what he would if said with a red!!! 😂 at least he lived the final product haha

[@willemprobst4415]

I mean if the client doesn't pay you enough, why should you film it with a red camera. You did the right thing. Small budget? Okay just use my phone.

[@fiercefivemedia]

With some planning and editing both 11 and 12 iPhones can rock it.

[@WillyFoxx]

Peter: "First: let's talk about price!" **never tells the actual price** hahahha good video sir! as always! Those cameras look insanely good, but as a youtuber, I would "never" consider buying one, the huge difference in price is a dealbreaker for me, plus I need portable/light/fast equipment. Thanks!

[@alexanderlyon]

This video pretty much cured me from wanting to upgrade (again). I already have a nice 4k full frame Canon and I'm just shooting my laundry room/"studio" making talking head education videos for KZbin. It sounds like I already own what I need. Thank you, Peter.

[@insightfulentertainment5734]

I would like to do something simular with my channel

[@ArchieGee]

They’re not pointless, but they’re getting more niche…

[@northsideheel]

What does Peter McKinnon think about Black magic pocket cinema cameras?

[@markjaik]

Yeah, curious aswel!

[@smileychess]

same, I would love to hear his take on Black Magic

[@tombuck]

I was having this thought right as I saw this comment. What does PM think of BM?

[@SanathKumarNaibhi]

He says he would love to hear what we think. Really? 😀Do you even read these comments? But anyway, We come here because you're our inspiration, no matter what, we'll watch your videos ☺️🙏 LEGEND FOREVER!❤️

[@ForbesSindane]

It does present professionalism, especially to the corporates. I think if you work with big companies its vital to have those cinema cameras.

[@ElyjahWilbur]

You’re right in some respect but even big companies see the value in smaller content. Film and content is produced in tiers and there’s ALWAYS room for that range of production value even in multi million dollar industry.

[@garritgreen]

If it's a type of job that doesn't come around that often you'd be better off renting it for that shoot

[@ForbesSindane]

@@garritgreen true, otherwise you will seat next to expansive gear that has taken a lot from you financially and yet returning drops.

[@ForbesSindane]

@ItsChrisVee totally agree, but I’m pretty sure the client has seen your profile. Sometimes your profile speaks for you, which is why even if you show up with you R6 on a Gimbal alone thy have no doubts due to the previous work of yours that thy saw.

[@ChrisParayno]

Depends on the job requirements. I've worked with clients that have been brainwashed thinking they need cinemagrade cameras, even though the company I work for will be doing all the work for from pre to post production 🤦

[@chicagospots]

For the past 6 years, I've shot all my TV spots on the Blackmagic 4.6k Ursa mini pro. Beautiful images! However, I'm very impressed with the Sony FX3 Cinema camera coupled with the Ronin-S gimbal. The auto focus is really smart and locks on the subject really well. The idea of eliminating the follow-focus guy is appealing. Sony's new focus tech is astounding.

[@richiedieckhoff]

My RED has sat on my shelf since December 2019. It's officially the most expensive paper weight ever. You nailed it on this one.

[@dlovisuals]

C70 seems like the good marriage of cinema and mirrorless tech.

[@richiedieckhoff]

@@dlovisuals that it is - once you get past the sensor crop the image it produces is beautiful 🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@dlovisuals]

@@richiedieckhoff 16-35 all day son

[@BrendanEvan]

Sell that puppy!

[@richiedieckhoff]

@@BrendanEvan It's my baby.... but it may be time

[@ItzSi]

I remember I turned up with a Canon M50 and Zhiyun Crane M2 and the client was like oh.......IS THAT IT!?? .......AWE THATS SO CUTE 😂

[@pow9606]

Some event is happening at your local park that your interested in. You say to your self I would like to film that. Turns up with that beastie red camera and a whole crew. Not intimidating much.

[@michaelruebusch2275]

Man, I've been thinking about this for years. The SLR game has stepped it up so much that it is just so hard to not lean toward them over a $25K dollar Red. Like you said, it all comes down to what your needs truly are.

[@krane15]

The right tool for the job. For people that need a cinema camera, its not a question.

[@photognate88]

I have moved my entire workflow over to the blackmagic 6k pro. I am really enjoying it. I would also say the Panasonic s1 is also killing it at the film making especially since you have Prores raw and b-raw support on those platforms.

[@jamycine]

Same here ! sold Ursa and scarlet :D

[@2gunzfilms425]

Ive been working on the 4k for about 2 years now...just got a 6k about 4-5 months ago. Atem mini....it's a godsend for the money, having this rig alone

[@gatewoodsensei]

Yeah that s1H is great. I’m wondering if the new gh6 will support b-raw too. I think I can live (kinda) without nd filters if that’s the case.

[@photognate88]

@@gatewoodsensei If it does support B-Raw it would be killer. That said. you will still need ND. I can tell you that one of my shoots had I not had ND I would have been screwed. I was shooting during the day at ISO 100 on a 75mm lens. Even stopped down t of16 my shutter speed was basically unusable. After adding 4 stops of nd I was able to get the shot I wanted.

[@gatewoodsensei]

@@photognate88 my bad! I meant internal nd filters.

[@evannicolini6990]

Sony is definitely creating some cinema camera competitors like the A7siii and especially the A1. I love how compact the tech is getting while also maintaining cinema quality!

[@StephenBell_video]

Z Cam is an awesome and “affordable” option for cinema cams for anyone who is interested in starting a rig 🎥

[@MAGICSIX]

That selling the “package” is a great point. I remember meeting a photographer who was doing H.S. senior portraits with these huge lights, that were old. I asked him why he doesn’t update to new light weight gear? He said the lights actually have no real bearing on the photos, I’m faxt he had a high power strobe that lit it all perfectly, but he sets up the big lights to give people that photoshoot feel and experience.

[@BrianZuma]

If ppl admit it or not if it looks really cool and important even if you know it does nothing you definitely feel differently than if there was nothing there

[@MAGICSIX]

@@BrianZuma so true. Same thing is true for the food industry. I was on a Food Network show and Anne Burrell told us that studies showed people enjoyed food that was presented nicely, compared to same exact fold that wasn’t presented as nice. A good thing to remember, after all people are buying the experience as much as the results.

[@rowanstrang8072]

Here’s how you work out if you should buy or even rent a cinema camera If you’re wondering, then don’t.

[@caffeinatedcameras]

The image quality/DR difference between an R5 and a Komodo is substantial, so yes definitely still worth having a cinema camera. But I love both of them. Different tools for different jobs

[@willmannering]

Well the r5 has one of the worst dynamic range out of most modern full frame mirrorless cameras (worst being the r6), not a very high bar to beat ;)

[@tonyamartin1425]

true I'm buying an fx6 lol I have a fx3 its great but I need internal NDs

[@jpfitness_]

From a youtuber’s stand point I would never need a cinema camera. My R6 is amazing for what I got goin on!

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

Exactly, also a lot of people seem to forget about all the additional costs for all that is needed for a cinema camera. My R6 and my R are all I need from a KZbin perspective!

[@Ed_Scott]

@@ElBoyoElectronico this is my setup now that I got my R6!!!! How is it matching the footage from both cameras?

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

@@Ed_Scott Not that easy tbh, since they seem to render colors a but differently. If I find the time, I will also use my colorchecker before shooting my footage, which helps a ton. Generally the R6 tends to render colors warmer and has a bit of a yellow tint (also red skintones), while the R tends to have a green cast to its footage. Nothing too crazy though. But it shows if not corrected for.

[@Ed_Scott]

@@ElBoyoElectronico appreciate the response. Some definite food for thought as I start this journey.

[@andrewsteavpack9079]

4:47 ~frictionless~ Cody Ko and Peter McKinnon both making frictionless the Canadian adjective of choice

[@stefankoen]

Scrolled the comments to see who also caught it 😂

[@pjminer]

@@stefankoen Same 🤣

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

must be some smart guys

[@Sundrop-Dancer]

There's something incredibly energizing about someone who gets this passionate and excited about something. I could listen to you get excited about chemex and lighting and details of anything for hours and feel like it was time well spent.

[@BaggersandBrews]

I prefer to watch creators using equipment that is available to the average person.......If that makes sense.

[@ElyjahWilbur]

So many excellent points! All of which I took into consideration when upgrading my gear. I struggled so hard between the Komodo and the C70 and most of your points really touched on why I ended up going with the C70. While it's labeled a "cinema" camera, it really fills the gap between a true cinema camera and a mirrorless. I love working with a crew but getting to do that is becoming increasingly rare in a world where clients want to pay less for more. Thanks for touching on all of these points.

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

Yes, there is still a need for cinema cameras, but not the cinema cameras of even 2 years ago. Canon C70...Panasonic S1H...Canon EOS R5c. Those are examples of the cinema cameras of today and the near future.

[@twesttv]

It's a great video and question. To me it comes down to the client. Are they paying for high end cinema gear? If not, don't buy it. Buy what you are using most for the people that are paying you the most.

[@elvispresley2542]

He’s attempting to be partial. NO. The answer is big income, big camera.

[@segunmicha]

5:30 that was my life when I tried to be filmmaker lol

[@ZachTigue]

Lol try showing up to a wedding with the baby Fuji f2 lenses. A lot of side-eyeing going on

[@S133S]

For a person that has worked in the film industry for 20+ years, I can totally say this is 100% accurate.

[@Dmogul]

This was a dope video, cinema cameras and mirrorless DSLR’s are closing the gap between each other

[@MM-yq2qq]

Very true

[@theroadnottakentravel]

And iPhones/gopros are closing the cap between them and dslrs

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@theroadnottakentravel Still pretty far off. There's no flexibility with smarphones and gopros. The look is different. Dynamic range is also insanely different. The smaller devices do have tricks like merging frames for hdr video, but with a ultra compressed 8 bit file, nothing you can do on it in post production.

[@ToonTVDerek]

For real sometimes you gotta make your setup bigger to impress a client. I'll put my A7SIII and RS2 on a monopod with a mattebox just to make it look a tad more impressive but I still keep that run and gun style. I shoot exclusively dance videos so that's why I need run and gun lol

[@kristyboyanoff]

Thanks for making this video, Pete! I was really discouraged because everyone keeps telling me that I cannot be a filmmaker because cinema cameras are really heavy (and I have back problems) BUT your video encourages me to continue with cinematography!

[@krane15]

Filmmaking is less about the camera, and more about the art.

[@georgeaura]

I'm with you on mirrorless and gimbal and drone that's how I literally roll

[@JeremySmithOfNewScotland]

Same here, better then an iPhone and osmo mobile.

[@WOWmaticFilms]

People r bc here debating abt cinema camera and mirrorless…PM is bc making intro video of Canon R3…!! 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@Dilandau88]

Just bought a Canon C70 today. There’s always room for quality in the ocean of low level mediocrity out there!

[@kittyb4750]

did you really make this grammatical error? lemme rewrite it without the contraction: Are CINEMA CAMERA IS POINTLESS in 2021?... dude, what are you, 6?

[@beardedchristian]

Hi Peter - funny, was just watching reviews on cinema cameras as finally got a big client and got money to buy my first cinema camera!

[@whosjozikolnik]

the question is are you gonna buy it?

[@Mr.StealYoCat]

Why do cringy youtuber think cineme cameras are for vlogging🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[@12345663484]

I've shot a ton of projects on just a Sony A7III and had them come out great. However I will say, having shot with both cinema cameras and mirrorless/DSLRs, despite them being heavier I vastly prefer working with the cinema camera. There are certainly exceptions (using the a7 on a small gimbal in a tight space is sooooo much easier then a big rig), but like if I'm doing handheld work, I actually like the extra weight. It helps me steady up a bit and it's much easier for me to get a full solid grip on it. You can totally rig a photography camera out to work better, but something like a c300 or FX6 just sits so well in my hands in a way the a photo camera just doesn't.

[@rockalaroll]

This is exactly why I went with the A7siii...(sorry canon!) and put that extra 10k into glass, drone, gimbal, ninja, and bubble gum.

[@DavidKilkelly]

I've run a video production company for 7 years and last year just decided that the A7Siii was pretty much all needed. It's a bit tricky on the audio side but I love the consistency from gimbal to tripod to track. And it's so damn portable.

[@KanishkGupta]

Future is Mirrorless !

[@yassineboudar5769]

Did Pete just recognised the quality of Fujifilm cameras?😍

[@Markchristiankc]

This is exactly why I sold my RED Scarlet W so long ago. Its a shame it takes owning a red to realise you don't need it (expensive mistake), but it is what it is haha. I love my pocket 4k and 6k and the 6k Pro will be the next purchase (internal NDs yes please) but aside from that I dunno, I think the smaller cinema cameras are in such a good spot that it is no longer justifiable to spend 50K on a red dsmc2 camera when if I really wanted a red I could buy the komodo, or I can just stick with BM and get a 2500 dollar pocket cinema camera 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@davepluimer4606]

We have him referring to Peter McKinnon in the third person, ladies and gents.

[@ERJOL]

I think they are necessary only i do actual work not KZbin videos.

[@ScottTakai]

Awesome video Pete! I shot a short film as the DP a few months ago and I was shooting on my Panasonic GH5S. One of the producers was actually judging me pretty negatively for showing up with it because she was used to seeing Arri's and Red's on set. But because I had a lot of lights to work with (which I always prioritize first), she went from saying "Why are we shooting on this piece of shit camera?" to "Ohh....that piece of shit camera can do THAT?" Hahaha. To me cameras are so good nowadays that as long as you have good lighting and good lenses, you could make it look like a cinema camera. All about the person behind the camera, not the camera itself

[@matsefcik]

As someone starting out their indie filmmaking career, I've been trying to figure out what camera set-up to go with. I've been using a Sony a7iii which is great, but I think I might be upgrading to the FX3 for a small package with a great image.

[@facuuaf]

Using a RED 8K with a Canon EF lens on it is like killing a fly with a shotgun. It's not just about the camera, it's the optics!

[@tyrongeorgetown6378]

That definitely struck a cord! It’s like a Rolls Royce with Ford rims! I hate seeing photography lenses on Reds

[@ChannelWright]

The older you grow, the more tired you’re going to get hauling all that heavy stuff around - and as you’ve realized, the audience doesn’t give a damn.

[@itapmedia]

Great content 👏🏾🔥

[@DeerghKataria]

I agree with what Pete said! Especially with the content that we are consuming on KZbin. It is impossible to tell any difference between 1080p or 4k or even 8k when you're viewing them on your phone. It is impossible to point any difference between like an A7C and Red. And the price difference is like 25x. It's amazing that people with no resources can still make almost equally produced videos without any gear. We live in an amazing time!

[@adhdtrader5748]

Agree, majority viewers are watching on their phones + 4k, 8k does not mattrr and no one notices

[@dna8269]

There's a MASSIVE difference between a7c and RED in scenes that put dynamic range to the test lol. It's not even close. If you're shooting youtube videos in studio, you likely won't see it. Shoot someone back lit outdoors and it will be brutally apparent

[@adhdtrader5748]

@@dna8269 agree but average viewer never notice on social media vids. Theres no use case for reds in social media. If you have $, go for a red hands down. If u dont, u dont need one.

[@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo]

I have a Cinema camera I’m not even using anymore. Once I sell it I’ll just rent newer models for special projects ! 🤙🏻 Better to keep that money (or invest it) and get clients to pay for fancy cameras on projects if needed, super easy to rent these days.

[@smileychess]

I'll give you a grand for it.

[@tyrongeorgetown6378]

Or u can just rent it out to other people

[@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo]

@@tyrongeorgetown6378 True..

[@dineshsingh6456]

Spend money on lenses that in my opinion have a great effect on video and photo quality not just the sensor.

[@neilsgrainger]

Ignoring quality, what shots can a cinema camera do that the modern day mirrorless can't? Story is everything.

[@sirBumpyCase]

"cameras that everyone can afford" With all due respect, not everybody has 10,000 dollars to drop on a camera system.

[@opsqmlaz]

I mean, you've just gotta see how the most popular cameras nowadays are like BMPCC 6K Pro and Red Komodo, the debate is very lively haha

[@BrendanEvan]

For the price of a Monstro you can have both a nice mirrorless and a BMPCC6K pro, why not!?

[@llerenamedia]

There’s something to be said about being mobile. Being FREE!

[@brianhawkins]

I've been saying this for years. People shooting for KZbin (which will mostly be watched on phones) should invest their money in lights, better locations, better talent, etc.

[@BarefootMediaTV]

sony fx6, perfect middle ground!

[@magiccinema2294]

For you to impress a customer with your little good camera simple get small rig cages and see the magic there

[@mathewhumvee]

If your equipment is all that matters. Every hundred million dollar movie should be a masterpiece.

[@JeremySmithOfNewScotland]

Good point

[@stephenguetti]

Completely agree. RED Komodo is a big step in that evolution. Smaller, affordable, can be mounted on a small gimbal. Yet still is a “cinema” camera. Cinema Cameras will just keep getting smaller/cheaper if they want to compete. Good for the consumer.

[@ThomasApp]

To me those cameras are way out off budget ! But considering the price of the EOS R and Latest Sony Im going towards a BMPC6kPro EF mount to get into more produced stuff than I actually do on KZbin with my Lumix G7 !

[@BillZebubproductions]

I wonder what things will be like in two years. 6K is already affordable, but of course, with rolling shutter. When 8K comes out, with global shutter, and under $4,000, I will weep for all the money I have spent prior.

[@danieldesmond3422]

Coming from someone who has worked in the film industry I’d say yes but maybe not for KZbinrs. Like blockbusters should definitely not be shot on DSLRs

[@TristanErvin]

FIGURES when I’m 👌🏿this close to buying a C70, you upload this. Welp, here goes nothing 😂😂

[@IdRatherBeHiking]

The equipment really doesn't matter. I shoot my adventure films on a DJI Pocket 2 and Mavic Mini... tell me my content sucks.

[@rudekoji]

Yeahhhhh I grew my set up to being a fully rigged beast w/ multiple different cinema cameras and then stopped caring as the corporate companies are beginning to favor social media content. R6 with an RS2 and my DJI Air 2 along w/ proper color correction and grading. Cant go wrong.

[@JayFingers]

Thanks for this video. This is something that was certainly on my mind the past few months. I bought a Canon EOS C100 last year - simply because it was what I could afford - with the goal of using it to make shorts and _maybe perhaps_ no-budget features, and I even used it for a few of my KZbin videos. And as you mentioned, Peter, it's a lot of work with the setup and everything. But then about a month ago, I got the Canon EOS RP. An inexpensive foray into full frame? I figured, why not? And while the RP absolutely has its shortcomings, it's good enough for KZbin, I think it might be good enough for short projects, but most important, it's shown me what's possible - and what might be to come. So I'm pumping the brakes on my cinema camera dreams for now (I was eyeing the C70 for a while) and I'm gonna see what happens in the world of full-frame mirrorless first. Because really, at the end of the day, it's not the camera that matters. It's all about the content you create with it. Thanks again, Peter. Cheers! ✊🏾

[@abhijxxt8035]

19 comments 3 one visible What happened to youtube 🎀

[@andrewskater17]

I think the lines are getting blurred now a days- Smaller cams are giving us almost the same quality so what you're really paying for is the ports and convivences that come with owning a bigger camera - nd's, xlr's, sdi, etc.

[@Adefuye]

Wake up babe, a new Peter McKinnon Video

[@jherbison]

Love the shoot of the Hyundai N Line. Bought my wife won and it is an amazing and fast car. 290HP Hyundai!

[@Archangel1130]

Do you still respond to comments? You've gotten so large. Bigger than life you know. My friends know who you are. People I shoot with know your name. I feel like I've fallen behind. I shoot weddings. Why do I even watch these anymore. I have a 5d 4 and an eos R. I just started doing video. I bought another R. Now I need more. I bought mics and lenses. I keep adding and adding and it never seems like enough. I'm about to upgrade to two r5s. I started with a 6d and now... You're talking about having too much. I'll need more, even if you simplify, I'll always need something that you review. They are too good not to watch. Thank you for getting me to where I am. I'll keep going until I too have too much and need to simplify. Thank you.

[@mylesnmore]

Sometimes your approach changes depending on the tool you use. When I carry my a7s3, it's run & gun time - not RAW time. When I want to do a film that is methodical & diligent then a RED RAW is the way to go. Both tools are needed bc life is unpredictable.

[@BrittneyJanae]

I don't think cinema cameras are pointless if you're trying to be a DP! If you just want to be a youtuber then yes.

[@jamskaterpete]

you can get some amazing footage with an $80 canon eos m with magic lantern shooting 2.5k raw or even 14 bit 1080p raw. for us hobbyists, its something cheap that can yield great results.

[@JustNicholas247]

Devil Sticks...WOW!!!! I haven't heard that term thrown around in years 🤯

[@FULLMETALAUTO]

90 percent of the time that I see people using cinema cameras in the real world, they really don't need them or know how to properly deal with the footage lol

[@henrysimpson7562]

Hey Peter, great video you should do a day in the life of youself

[@absumptio6666]

Are your fingers at 90% by now? You are grabbing that camera just as in the old days lol

[@absumptio6666]

nvm, just watched the emding ^^

[@Praderanoire]

Ive thought about this a lot too. I think unless you work in a controlled studio environment 80%+ then yes I could see the need for it. Personally with my workflow, I just really need to have multiple SDI outs on my body to meet the needs of my clients working in-studio. This is something I can only get from cameras like an FS7, Venice, Alexa, or RED camera. But for people who work as freelance, or on-location for most of their work, then I think the mirrorless cameras from Canon, Sony, Nikon, and Fuji are really making that gap in quality and ease of use smaller.

[@chocolateanddutchy]

"Oh, that's it, you don't have anything else'. This si exactly my struggle. Since two years I've been trying to make videos and improve myself. But at the moment I have my Iphone 11 pro and Go Pro here 7. I am going to start make videos/documentaries for others and I am really considering buying a proper camera. It's just really difficult to choose a camera because there are so many! Thinking about about getting a canon, maybe the c70... This video helps a lot, thank you! 🤗

[@PedroHofmann]

we have made some videos 2 years ago with an aircarco company filming their Boings, logistics.... with a Canon C200 in RAW. The result was not really fantastic. In fact I was doing the night shots at the runway and most of gimbal work just with my small Sony A7III and the results were excellent. The Canon was too heavy most of the time, because we were just 2 people and some non professional to assist us carry the tools. Too much equipment. Even the interviews would have been possible with the Sony nearly same good. I just had my first BMPCC 4k the first days at this time with no cage yet and nothing on top. This camera performed better that the Canon and the BRAW was way better to edit.

[@DTRBrianMallard]

As a guy who shoots a travel vlog (not super fancy because it's more informative on cool sites to see than visual wow factor), I really need something super simple to get up and shooting in a moment. I use a Sony A6000 and a Gopro 7 which do what I need. One day I'd like to make a starter movie and I plan to use the A6000 for that. All of this to say that as I see it, you keep the gear to do the job you need. I really enjoyed this video and really appreciate how you break things down into super practical information that I find helpful, entertaining and extremely visually appealing. Thank you Peter McKinnon

[@coin777]

8:00 Isn't RED a mirrorless camera? Or I don't know about something.

[@MM-rq9qo]

I found myself in a similar situation a few years ago. Went from always carrying two Fuji bodies and 5-6 primes everywhere I went, to simply rocking an M10 + 50. That's it. It's compact. Battery lasts forever. It turns on instantly. And with a 128GB card, I can practically do an an entire weekend of travel photography without worrying about anything other than the body on my shoulder.

[@ViewNews]

What about mirrorless versus professional camcorders for video? Camcorders that have inbuild ND, no 30 min run time barriers, longer life batteries, XLR jacks, dual card slots, increasingly bigger sensors etc etc ... There may be a video in that.

[@innsaeimaster]

As we see how far the Pro iPhones have gone, actually the last 13version and software like UnrealEngine 5 … hmmm.. i agree with you. probably those dinos like red cameras are facing the end. filmindustry is facing a huge disruption too.

[@AlessandroSpenga]

I was about to buy the FX6. I went to the store to try it before pulling thr trigger. I'm glad I did it, because that's not the camera for me! Too big, too heavy and bulky, no viewfinder, no audio if you use it on a gimbal... really the only cool feature that could have been a plus for me was the internal auto ND. I do event videos and I travel a lot. I bought the A7SIII and that one fits my needs really well!

[@Cinematographer_brenton]

The weight of a cinema camera is definitely something I forget about until I shoot all day, I went from a t3i to a c300mkiii and the strain on my body is real after 8-10hours. Like you said in the video, having a set of cinema lenses is also a HUGE factor, vs a photo lens. sometimes it's not worth it for some projects, even though I find myself wanting to shoot a " home-movie" with a cinema camera, just because i have it xD