Are Cooke Kinetal lenses the same as Cooke Speed Panchro's?

[@volaksin5842]

Love these Kinetal lenses series, the only channel that does this. Thanks for the great upload!!

[@DanielKuberek]

It's a pleasure! This may be the last one where I focus on discussing the lens

[@anweko93]

Wow, they both shot beautifully! I think i like that vintage Kinetal look slightly more tho &love seeing beautiful Emi ❤️

[@DanielKuberek]

Very interesting! Noemi said the same thing too

[@SuvisJournalism]

What an interesting upload, Daniel! I'll share with my cameraman. We were just shooting the Botanical Gardens here on the Gold Coast today and he is always looking for good information about lenses. Thank you so much! :)

[@DanielKuberek]

What camera do you guys use?

[@SuvisJournalism]

@@DanielKuberek It's a Canon SLR, not sure which model but it's not the newest one by any means. But rather than update the camera itself, Gary says it's better to up the quality of your lenses. Would you agree with that? :)

[@bluefilmsltd]

What do you think of Zeiss Contax lenses?

[@DanielKuberek]

Not sure, I've never used them.

[@bluefilmsltd]

@@DanielKuberek What other lenses (that are affordable) do you think give that rounded cinematic look as opposed to flat like most still lenses?

[@DanielKuberek]

@@bluefilmsltd I'm quite impressed by DZO vespid primes. Lomo standard speeds also have an interesting "popping" look

[@bluefilmsltd]

I wonder if the focusing can be improved with a follow focus system??

[@bluefilmsltd]

Another question....what's it like pulling focus with these lenses. I'm close to pulling the trigger on them but I don't want a lens that can't reach infinity and is too difficult to focus pull....Looking for lenses that are great for faces, basically, but somewhat wide angle.

[@DanielKuberek]

Focus pulling is a big weakness of these lenses, it can be pretty annoying. But if you're a one person band, then you'll get used to it. The quality of the lenses is worth it. The lenses should hit infinity with the correct adapter from TLS, Les Bosher etc.

[@bluefilmsltd]

@@DanielKuberek Thank you, Daniel. Thank you so much. That's useful to know. I generally am a one man band so maybe it's still the way to go.

[@bluefilmsltd]

Do these take filters? Whats the thread??

[@patrikjoos8257]

Bought a 12.5mm Cooke Kinetal 1.8 with c mount for my blackmagic micro cine camera (super16 sensor) Used a fotodiox adapter. the image is completely blurry, focus ring doesn't bring anything into focus. I can see a few dark specs on the screen, and other orbs/artifacts almost like looking through a microscope. does that mean this lens is not compatible with super16, or does it mean the lens is defective?

[@DanielKuberek]

Sounds like you might need to see a lens tech with that. What T stop where you using when you saw all this? Sounds like it's either an adapter issue (too far away from the flange), a lens issue or a combination of both. The lens's coverage shouldn't factor in, at worst it might vignette a little.

[@LudwigPB]

thx a lot for this detailed and interesting comparison👍

[@DanielKuberek]

Thanks Ludwig!

[@jackbarron8880]

I heard that the Cooke Kinic and Ivotal are just as good as the Kinetal. Wonder if they would cut together well?

[@DanielKuberek]

I don't think so. The footage I've seen from both has very intense swirling - which might work for stylistic shots. And also, it depends on which format you shoot on, of course

[@jackbarron8880]

I see. Yes. They have swirling bokeh. That's a shame because I was hoping I could intercut them. Unless that swirl was gone if stopped down?@@DanielKuberek

[@DanielKuberek]

@@jackbarron8880 you could definitely try it, but stopping down would also narrow the coverage... What camera are you shooting with?

[@jackbarron8880]

Thanks Daniel. I'm using the Blackmagic Pocket 4K but mostly use the S16 mode as I prefer it@@DanielKuberek

[@bluefilmsltd]

Do the Kinetel's have that bulbous, round look to them like the Cooke S5s?? I'm looking for lenses that are good on faces and accentuate curves.

[@DanielKuberek]

I can't personally speak to Cooke S5's, but they definitely barrel which works well for faces

[@bluefilmsltd]

@@DanielKuberek Thank you so much for the quick response. That's amazing. Do you know of any other lenses that barrel and do something similar for faces?

[@DanielKuberek]

@@bluefilmsltd I've found my Angenieux primes barrel a lot... otherwise there's also the obvious Helios, and pretty much any lens for 16mm or Super 16 will barrel if they cover a larger format like Super 35 (usually longer focal lengths)

[@bluefilmsltd]

@@DanielKuberek Thank you, Daniel. Very helpful. Your knowledge of lenses and what's good for faces is astounding. I appreciate you, man. Thank you!

[@bluefilmsltd]

@@DanielKuberek One more question, Daniel...what Angenieux primes are you referring to exactly??? I can't find Angenieux primes, just zooms!

[@michaelgeelhoed4256]

Your videos are informative and inspiring Daniel, I've ordered a Cooke Kinetal 25mm, in large part due to your channel and analysis. I have a simple arri-s to micro 4/3 adapter but its not close to hitting infinity on my bmpcc 4k - any tips on adapters and what your approach has been?

[@michaelgeelhoed4256]

Oh wait I can see you answered this in another video - Arri-s to PL then PL to to M43. I'm actually going to try another suggestion with is Arri-b to EF then an EF to M43 macro focusing helicoid. Will see how that goes...

[@DanielKuberek]

Thank you for the kind words Michael! The setup I currently use is a Les Bosher Arri/S to PL adapter and then a PL to M43 adapter. This allows the Cooke lens to freely rotate and (somewhat) hit infinity

[@DanielKuberek]

@@michaelgeelhoed4256 interesting, let us know how that goes!

[@MichaelKaykov]

Also… Lomos 😎

[@DanielKuberek]

Great lenses... I have a few ☺️

[@outdoorstours]

Very nice upload , great presentation from you. Thanks for sharing dear. I'm leaving a huge Like here. Have a wonderful week and see you soon again.

[@kylevincent8105]

Great video from a great man

[@DanielKuberek]

Next up we're going to test your Zeiss Super Speeds 😉

[@jackbarron8880]

Whoa, I brought tons of Cooke Kinetals because of THIS VIDEO - I was SHOCKED at how warm they are...super warm - almost BROWN. Have you noticed this too? If so, do you offset it with white balance or just embrace it?

[@DanielKuberek]

Your lenses might have yellowing because of thoriated coatings. Cookes are meant to be warm, but not brown

[@jackbarron8880]

RADIOACTIVE?????? I'm worried now...i mean, they are not brown per se just very warm....are yours warm??@@DanielKuberek

[@jackbarron8880]

@@DanielKuberek Please Daniel, i'm scared now. I don't want radioactive lenses. I didn't know that Cooke kinetals could be radiaoctive ):

[@DanielKuberek]

@@jackbarron8880 if radioactive, it'd be very minimal (trust me, I've checked mine with a Geiger counter). If you want to cure the yellow, put them under UV lights for a few days.

[@jackbarron8880]

Yours is radioactive?@@DanielKuberek

[@lloyd356]

No.