Are Goblin Hewers Any Good in Patch 5.0? - Dwarfs Unit Focus

So, yeah, they are good, I just took a while making this because I hadn't actually used them. It wasn't because I was sleeping on them, just had a very busy week and hadn't pushed my lagging Malakai campaign enough to get them! But... yeah, they're going to have a star place in my armies going forward. I wasn't the guy frowning on Iron Hail Gunners and other close-range options after all.
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[@paleface171]

Grommbrindal also has a buff that increases range damage of artillery so you can make the hewers even better.

[@OffToBattle]

Ah, that's nice..

[@Har1ByWorld]

he can also make them have speed like 59 with his traits and master engineers.

[@OffToBattle]

@@Har1ByWorld I hadnt' seen how fast they can go but yeaaaah, that's quite a thing.

[@hangingtreegg]

we are so close to having counter-arrow artillery like Battle of Five armies. so close.

[@OffToBattle]

True.

[@adrianoking9579]

Im still in aye on my malakai campaign where archaon was about to attack my capital and my armies were very away so I hired a rune lord, every regiment of renown and the 3 available quest issued hewers. I was amazed how I aimed only 2 of them on him and they broke Archaon in 1 salvo and just sent a 2nd one to finish him off. so yeah this is a Monster but also super cheap Lord deleter, unlike having the need for 6 gunners do that.

[@OffToBattle]

I just abandoned a half-hearted Empire campaign attempt because I found out yes, variety is nice, but not enough AP against a Festus army and it's an exercise in punishment. Goblin Hewers don't have that problem. They're brutally AP.

[@kirillrivkin4842]

Goblin Hewers are Dawis revenge to all the gigantic monsters and Lords who would throw little guys around. They are purely a counter-large unit, but they will get a lot of play because in the past Dwarfs would have few effective answers against them.

[@OffToBattle]

Yes, but I don't mind being challenged to play monsters better when playing monster-heavy factions.

[@kirillrivkin4842]

Now you have much better tools 😊

[@santawashere4877]

Oh wow, requested on the shades video and delivered a day later

[@OffToBattle]

Well I used them A LOT in TWW2 so aside from not remembering they shaved greatsword/ DW recruit time, was able to rapid-fire lots of commentary from heavy use.

[@wolfschadow6399]

The trees have started to speak dwarven. And the lorax loves to throw axes.

[@OffToBattle]

I can see it now, Malakai organizing the Lumber Camp that used to be Athel Loren....

[@bacchus8081]

Another cool thing about Goblin Hewers are the artillery banner runes you can buy with oathgold and put on em. Iirc there are 3 common, 1 master and 1 usefull slayer-only banner from Malakai's adventures (Arachnarok cloak also applies on ranged attacks). Adding stuff like penetration, seeking missiles, explosive damage, poison attacks and the Master Rune Aoe-attack is no joke on em :P They also add flat stats like bonus vs large/ infantry/ ArP dmg, which gets added per axe, so those calculations go pretty wild. I think damage on the card increased by atleast 1-1.5k for most of those banners.

[@OffToBattle]

How are the seeking missiles, given they've improved homing missiles broadly in the game...?

[@bacchus8081]

@@OffToBattle Not sure, I havn't done extensive testing with em yet but I assume they act a bit like that Greenskin artillery that shoots goblins with wing-gliders and also have target-seeking capabilities.

[@OffToBattle]

@@bacchus8081 Ahhh. Very interesting.

[@richardmaltempi-ep6cm]

i like how unique this unit is.

[@OffToBattle]

It is that. I should've started using it much sooner but oh well, a lot of things in Malakai's campaign I didn't know from going in pretty blind, which is its own kind of fun.

[@richardmaltempi-ep6cm]

@@OffToBattle i thing it would have been unique kill animation for the machine

[@OffToBattle]

@@richardmaltempi-ep6cm Machine's really good either way.

[@gilanthegrey]

It's pretty good. the speed on those goblin hewers is insane. It SHREDS large units faster than slayers can

[@OffToBattle]

I'm probably going to make much more use of Slayer Pirates for clean-up with the Goblin Hewers active.

[@gilanthegrey]

@@OffToBattle in campaign with the stalk and vanguard deployment its amazing. I put a 6 unit vanguard force with 3 goblin hewers behind close to the enemy. Unbreakable crew means they are great at bunching up units for your backline to shoot at. The rest of the army are the artillery battery, gyros and airships.

[@aoffydosy1530]

Malakai : We have Goblin Hewers! Giants : I'm in DANGER!

[@OffToBattle]

Mortal threat yes.

[@mentlegens7020]

One use i have started to like to hewers is as flank guards in formations i mean usually flankers are cavs and if hewer crew ends up in melee as you said in this video they are still crew of slayes so they can hold on theirn own for sometime

[@OffToBattle]

I'll experiment with exactly that tactic when I play Dwarfs next.

[@ethan2285]

Your channel is really good

[@OffToBattle]

Much appreciated. Trying to work to make it better.

[@roland228]

Goblin Hewers being rather poor at hewing goblins and instead being better at killing the relatively slow large units makes it seem that Malakai came up with the name and then started making the machine.

[@OffToBattle]

Like I said, it came from a simple concept. CA decided they're "slayer" axes so obviously they hurt large targets more though...

[@atouchofoliveoil1447]

7:52 THE WHAT???

[@OffToBattle]

Yeah, not only is the 'artillery' doing work but the crews afflict the large units too. I'm going to really hate these things when I try playing Tomb Kings again.

[@johndane9754]

Think of them as machine guns. Suppress the enemy before contact or have them be point defense for the artillery. Or as point defense in general.

[@OffToBattle]

Yeah, point defense is a good description.

[@troll925]

6:40 SHORT!?!

[@OffToBattle]

Wow someone actually caught that, it wasn't like I made it obvious...

[@really1337]

I know there's drawbacks, but I kind of wished there was a tool tip to see increases as a flat value. It would make me feel better informed when picking upgrades and leveling heroes/lords.

[@OffToBattle]

Yeah, I wish there was a calculator to show this off more easily.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

Its solid, but i wish the goblin hewer was able to fire for longer, making it a slayer version of irondrakes, rathere they become closer to a slayer version of blasting charges, one and done before you've gotten 90% of there value, solid unit, just not the biggest fan of the intended role they gave it

[@OffToBattle]

Yeah I understand where you're coming from, but with maxed out skills and techs you can drag even more out of them.

[@blakeisthebeast]

Several Engineers almost seem mandatory for a decent number of hewers in an army. Bonus ammo plus bonus move speed fits them perfect

[@OffToBattle]

Well at least the one.

[@lukeherbst7931]

Does triangulation only affect missile units?

[@OffToBattle]

@@lukeherbst7931 That's right. It's purely for missile strength, but it doesn't care about whether that's artillery or infantry or cavalry. Just missiles.

[@ymirtheprimordial5453]

Ok, I am curious... does Eltharion's ammo replenishment work on these if you get them as alliances? It should, right? He restores 1 ammo per 20 seconds, so that is a full 1/4 of their ammo. Having 4 Goblin Hewers in his army seems hilarious.

[@OffToBattle]

Well do you know the existing limitations? I haven't played him, so I wouldn't know if it affects artillery...

[@poche4686]

You guys also have the hewer texture fucked?

[@OffToBattle]

All I noticed, okay, is that I need to deselect the unit for the hewer piece itself to be visible. If that's what you mean then yeah.

[@poche4686]

​@@OffToBattlei thought my game was fucked, I verified the integrity of the files like 4 times and reinstalled the games, I guess it's something on their end

[@Canuovea]

The ironic thing is, indeed, that they're great! But not at hewing Goblins.

[@mycatistypingthis5450]

It also is essentially applying the old adage "MORE DAKKA" to Fantasy.

[@OffToBattle]

Not "as" great, no. But Flame Cannons exist.

[@OffToBattle]

Oh yeah, and Malakai's just the kind of madman to do it.

[@linussyren9221]

Never got to fully try the grapeshot cannons in 5.0. Never got 1000 kills with cannons since I play small in my coop. So Ive used the hewers extensively instead. They are anti everything in small it’s pretty funny. But they are scary to face.

[@OffToBattle]

The grapeshots feel balanced just fine, but the regular version boosted by Malakai (accuracy-wise) are totally brutal on their own.

[@linussyren9221]

@@OffToBattle unless you play in small and you get 20-30 kills per good battle xD Many artillery gets less kills in small oddly enough. But the goblin hewer still does 3k damage -> destroys a unit or two if close enough together. Especially good against norska. I hope to try out grapeshot in campaign at some point though :)

[@TheAussieBlue]

Hey, so, can Goblin Hewers fire over the heads of the dwarfs in front?

[@inwit594]

Yup! Thunderers can also fire over the heads of other dwarfs, since most enemy models will be taller than your frontline. Except if your fighting other dwarfs, chaos dwarfs, or a lot or small units like gnoblars, goblins, etc.

[@Xsorus]

I park one on each side of my army, it deletes cav

[@OffToBattle]

So my theory was right, it's really good for that purpose.

[@MM-de4we]

I dont see why youd use this over thunderers

[@OffToBattle]

Mobility and time to kill. Thunderers are very consistent, not knocking them whatsoever. I'm something of a gunpowder main in games too.

[@joaquinjimenezbecerra5444]

Goblins hewer are good, they are what rangers great weapons should been. High dps in short range with low ammo and good melee combatants. Right now rangers GW are useless.

[@OffToBattle]

I haven't used the rangers enough to say. Hewers are legit, though.

[@daviddavidson6289]

You keep saying ass instead of axe, lol.

[@OffToBattle]

I am, trying not to, but oh well.