Are Muslim youths in Malaysia and Indonesia becoming more conservative?

[@Darkside-tr3sx]

I had a Malaysian friend in university. While I had quite a few muslim peers (from India and central Asia), only he used to follow the 5 times a day prayer rule and go to the prayer room. He even used to check his watch every time. Funnily enough, the Arab students never followed this😂. I found it interesting. By the way, this was in Dubai.

[@SuperHutomo]

Well, religiousity is a choice

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

malaysia is one of the more developed muslim majority country, and they dont do it just by selling oil, but building their human resources.

[@marvelcomiks8078]

These people are following a faith based on their convenient assumptions and interpretations of the Islamic faith. Thats why it varies greatly from country to country. Those who follow it to a 'T' end up becoming Fundamentalists/Extremists. Yet we cannot stop them from believing in the faith since that would be depriving them of their right to practice their faith. Indonesia is lucky they still have the Pancasila. Malaysia is not so lucky because there was a sinister member from Pakistan during the crafting of the Malaysian Constitution who compelled the rest to insert the mention of the Islamic faith at the eleventh hour. Unless the Federation of Malaysia is dismantled, it is impossible to re-do the Constitution to turn it secular to save the people.

[@supersaiyan460]

​@@rizkyadiyanto7922 converting to islam is like Flow of money from islamic countries Like USA help Christian Phillipines

[@curious_one1156]

​@@rizkyadiyanto7922your public discourse is still a decade behind the world. You can keep patting yourself on the back.

[@tysloo81]

This is normal, when liberal don't work, people tend to be conservative. When conservative doesn't work well, they become more liberal. It is fine as long they are not too extreme until it break the balance between the liberal and conservative.

[@TestTest-g2w]

The Islamic Golden Era will tell you that there is no such thing as extremist Muslims and we don't need liberal values to progress.

[@amit9023]

Conservative means extreme

[@amit9023]

@@PertubuhanMalaysiaRaya but liberalism is not killing people in name of literalism but conservatism does

[@tysloo81]

@@amit9023 liberalism do kill people, see people legalize drug, a lot people die because of drug, are you telling liberalism doesn't kill people, very funny.

[@rollinghippo2940]

​@@amit9023go to india if u want liberal

[@emierdanish2002]

In Sabah & Sarawak, they rejected Islamic conservative like PAS. When I asked my Dusun tribe Muslim or Christian friends from Sabah, they don't like PAS. They assumed PAS as extreme & radical political party.

[@mountaindew20]

why do people always talk about religious stuff and they combine it with politics/pas blah blah.. no one gives a f about pas lol.. yes we are muslims but we not kelantanese.. typical singaporean media..

[@megatonhammer4723]

@@mountaindew20 becoz Islam is a political religion. You think the colonists were bad? Islam seeks to dominate the earth by the sword.

[@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla]

Sarawak should gain independence from Malaysia

[@anakinskywalker1434]

Hahaha funny rhetoric statement. PAS themselves even have non Muslim supporting club!!! Go get the right facts, not fiction chit chat among the atheist folks

[@emierdanish2002]

@@anakinskywalker1434 PAS dapat support Non-Muslim? Bukan menangpun PDM-PDM majoriti Cina. Paling corot dalam kalangan sokongan para pengundi Cina & India & disokong oleh hanya kaum tertentu.

[@zondor8123]

TLDR : Malaysia : yes they are Indonesia : no, their millenials and Gen Z are driving away from conservative

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." ?

[@nurulainmohdkhalid360]

Not all Indonesians endorse neoliberalism 😏

[@Jakarta48fans]

@@nurulainmohdkhalid360not all but majority

[@afaridpirmansyah7867]

as Indonesian and moderate muslim, i find that at least in my life environment i don't see people change to be conservative and most of them are moderat some are even change to liberal and only tiny percentage who are conservative ( only one people i know who regularly attend Kajian and follow sharia strictly).

[@ANEEAMA]

Because Indonesia is 89% of Muslims and they forcefully assimilated the Chinese. Malaysia does not want to become another Palestine. Imagine, in the UK, whites are 80%, and they still cry migration.

[@keangwooichoo6138]

The issue is mixing religion with politics.

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُوْنَ الْكٰفِرِيْنَ اَوْلِيَآءَ مِنْ دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِيْنَ ۚ وَمَنْ يَّفْعَلْ ذٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّٰهِ فِيْ شَيْءٍ اِلَّاۤ اَنْ تَتَّقُوْا مِنْهُمْ تُقٰٮةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّٰهُ نَفْسَهٗ ۗ وَاِ لَى اللّٰهِ الْمَصِيْرُ "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."

[@Halaqa]

The issue is secular humanism. Watch America drop in the next 20 years.

[@DrMox-ny8qs]

That's because your religion is based on idols.

[@hadifjamalluddin3319]

For Muslims, began with Prophet Muhammad & we have a reason.

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@DrMox-ny8qs Buddha was much older than your prophet accept that. Idols or no idols it is our business not yours. We hv our reason. I hv no comment about hinduism.

[@cosmicreisender]

I am an Indonesian and I am a high school teacher. I don't think so, what i've seen, Indonesian youth nowadays are actually becoming more liberal than before, they are increasingly open about not having a religion, and their thoughts are becoming more free. Social media in Indonesia does not portray the true Indonesia. For example, in Indonesian news and social media, many people show strong support for Palestine, but the reality is that the majority of people in Indonesia do not care about them and even tend to dislike the Middle East.

[@joehairul7520]

Siapa bilang. Di tanah pasundan mah tetap, mayoritas adalah pemeluk islam yang taat..

[@cosmicreisender]

@@joehairul7520 Di lingkungan pergaulan anda mungkin iya, tapi cobalah lihat kenyataan di luar sana. Saya bicara di dunia nyata, di kehidupan sehari-hari, bukan di sosial media. Kenyataannya memang begitu, saudara. Coba perhatikan dengan objektif, lebih banyak mana orang pergi ke mall dan ke masjid saat shalat Jum'at? Lebih banyak mana, orang taat beribadah dan sex bebas? Lebih banyak mana orang yang sepemikiran dengan anda dan yang tidak? Sekali saja lihat di jalan, lebih banyak mana perempuan berpakaian muslim sungguhan dan perempuan berpakaian sexy (meskipun dia berjilbab)? Berapa banyak orang yang shalat dan tidak?

[@screamaskzxyers]

​@@cosmicreisender emang secara umum anak muda itu lebih liberal dibandingkan dengan generasi2 tuanya, tapi paham radikal juga masih berkembang bahkan dilingkungan kampus sekalipun mereka itu bisa dianggap berpendidikan diatas rata2. tapi kenapa lu bandingin conservative itu taat beribadah, liberal malah sex bebas, lawak banget. bebas berekspresi bukan berarti sex bebas, orang yang ga mau sex sama sekali juga liberal, orang yang ga mau punya anak sama sekali sama sekali juga liberal, orang yang ga mau nikah sama sekali juga liberal. contohnya ya gua. terus perbandingan macam apa ngebandingin lebih banyak mana orang ke masjid atau ke mall, padahal di mall juga ada masjid, ga apple to apple perbandingannya, kapasitas mall umumnya itu ribuan bahkan puluhan ribu orang dibandingin masjid yang cuman ratusan sampai ribuan, banyak juga mall mall yang bangkrut karna udah bisa beli online. kapasitas, jumlah, sama kepentingannya aja beda jauh sama masjid. guru kok begini pola pikirnya

[@cosmicreisender]

@@screamaskzxyers Itu adalah perbandingan yang jelas. Dalam konteks shalat Jum'at, membandingkan orang ke mall dan masjid di lingkungan muslim itu perbandingan yang tepat. Dari perbandingan itu akan terlihat jelas apakah orang masih mau shalat Jum'at apa tidak, kenyataannya semakin hari masjid semakin sepi. Saya sama sekali tidak mengatakan liberalis adalah pelaku sex bebas, tapi semakin maraknya sex bebas di kalangan muda, bahkan beberapa kasus pada anak di bawah umum, menunjukkan kelau generasi muda Indonesia tidak mengarah ke "lebih beragama". Paham radikal dan gerakan konservatif memang masih ada dan terus berjalan di lingkungan muda, tapi sesuatu yang sebaliknya justru berkembang lebih pesat dan mayoritas bergerak ke arah itu.

[@newbabies923]

​@@cosmicreisendermungkin itu lingkungan elu yg rata2 nonis, lu jga paling kristen kan😂

[@dl7311]

Malaysia is becoming more conservative and religious yes.

[@xcjsmith5310]

As a 31 y/o youth, guess, I will either survive in conservative country and watch it go down the drain.

[@MonnyMonny-rk4pu]

Alhamdulillah everyone should practice their religion because religion make you better person

[@dl7311]

@@MonnyMonny-rk4pu religion is a personal belief but many people like to take it to the extreme though

[@VladVlad-ul1io]

@@xcjsmith5310 why?

[@Ligmab0llz69]

​@@MonnyMonny-rk4pu tell me how old is aisyah

[@pakngah3715]

Comparing religio-politically Peninsular Malaysia and Indonesia is like comparing apples with oranges. However , comparing Sabah and Sarawak with Indonesia from this religio-political aspect is aples vs apples.

[@krollpeter]

What do you mean? I found Sarawak being very liberal, meaning everyone is treated with kindness, regardless who you are. No obvious leaning to any side. And I enjoyed that a lot. All the smiles I got, the nice conversations ... I will go back.

[@markdisney260]

@@krollpeter Yes, that's what he meant. Malays in the peninsular are force fed religion from a very young age and government schools prioritise religion over everything else. The Indonesians are much more open and liberal (like in East Malaysia).

[@krollpeter]

@@markdisney260 Thank you Mark! My personal view is this: God - any god - wants just one thing from us: We should be good people! He will judge us on exactly this, if we were good, not what brand label we carry.

[@ANEEAMA]

@markdisney, Malays are practicing Islam for thousands of years . Malaysian Muslims are very tolerant Muslims as religion came in Malaysia through trade. Even before Europeans invade Malaysia , Malay Muslims were tolerant to Chinese and Indians. Yes, the government has to restrict if some fanatics try to interpret Islam for their benefits. Islam is moderation( the prophet advised moderation). Restrict fanatics , however continue Islam in Malaysia as it was centuries.

[@alfian3788]

​@krollpeter lol .Muslim in sarawak is becoming Conservative just like their brethren in malaya. Many are pro malaya too and anti cessation because to them without malaya there's no special privilege of being a Muslim. Till this day no religious freedom as in leaving Islam exist in sarawak

[@megatron6393]

Always remember this motto in Malaysia. Agama, Bangsa dan Negara. Religion comes first, Race is second, Country is last. So, it is okay for country to go down the drain, okay for race to go down the drain but religion must always be protected.

[@zhengjs3463]

what is religion? what is the purpose of having religion?

[@ssuwandi3240]

Black Rock is basically checking on the culture shift. Possibly to get politicized like ESG climates and Government social agenda for corporations. Imagine one American private company is allowed to audit your religious social Agenda. Pls don't get too flattered that they really have a genuine interest about a religion. Just to push their money goes the miles for their investors.. It's up to you how far you would allow these foreigners to dictate your culture. Be careful with your wishes

[@bittercoffee5362]

Ethnic identity (nasl) is a RIGHT in the Sharia - one of the 5 muqasids. Ethnic groups are formed of inter-marrying clan units (i.e. families); what good is a nation without its families?! Nobody wants to end up like whichever perpetually confused country you come from. Any body who claims to be "preserving a nation" WITHOUT preserving ethical and moral code derived from revelation that comes from God (i.e. Islam, deen, religion) or, secondarily, without preserving familial/ethnic identity (nasl) and the rights associated with it, - that person is a FRAUD.

[@bittercoffee5362]

@@zhengjs3463 Correct worship (engrained in the human psyche); common ethical and moral code; common rituals for societal events. Centrality on the one who is ultimately just and moral.

[@zhengjs3463]

individually do they follow God commandment fully and never sin?

[@AhamdMushaffa]

As Indonesian Muslim I will never vote based on religion first. Never!! I love Being Indonesian more than being muslim

[@ayamjaguh2547]

what a nationalist spirit . and yet u are just a poor country 😂

[@hidatyan]

​@@ayamjaguh2547Embarrassing!

[@kingofherosking3510]

​@@ayamjaguh2547sound really Islamic of you to say, poor huh hmmmm very Islamic indeed lol.

[@teckza3528]

Ada yang salah dengan pola pikir lu. Padahal agama dan negara itu berdampingan tapi lu seolah mengatakan agama bertentangan dengan bangsa. Agama padahal sudah mengajarkan untuk mencintai bangsa. Ketahuan ini orang masih kurang kenal islam. Harga diri lu dimana bro identitas lu sendiri aja lu bandingin

[@hijraisthecure1727]

​@@teckza3528ya acheh nasionalist nya kuat sama agama islam nya serambi mekah .

[@waimunyan7007]

And they want Taylor Swift to perform in Malaysia????? Who are they kidding!?!??

[@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko]

Nobody said that in Malaysia. Singapore is a Chinese society pretending to be Western. All the Chinese conservative values are gone in Singapore and replaced with liberalization and loose morality like in the West

[@djibicisse]

To be honest kpop is worse

[@tenwritersscreen5511]

Only people who wish to bring bad immoral influence wants her. There is always bad guys in any country. Anyway good she is not performing.

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." ?

[@TestTest-g2w]

Those are the atas people who are too rich with nothing better to do other than emulating the West just like the bootlickers back in British Colonial Era. The majority in general rather not have the concert.

[@gundam4596]

This is how the westerner put emphasize their idea into our local mindset. They put a narrative that if people tend to be more into religious value then they considered conservative, and it is one step to say it will become extremist and finally become terrorist. They think we the eastern people are stupid and easy to be poison by their words. The reality is that it shows how progress of nation would never left the religion value. The westerner always thought if they make a nation more progresive, they wil become more loose of their faith because they think science oppose to religion teachings. It just show how they got it wrong, in malaysia, the more people espcially muslim, when they learn more, become progresive, become more richer, they tend to be more good muslim which westerner think it is conservative. This is all because of knowledge, education, because islam asked it follower to seek knowledge, to learn about the world and afterworld, so when we learn more then we realise why Allah SWT send us to earth, and living in this world is just a small part/journey whereby the goal is the akhirah....

[@ERMIJAE333]

We should pinned this comment so that others who are ignorance can see this. Oddly enough, what's the purpose of this video anyway? 💁‍♀️

[@D0x1511af]

nah religion an ideology..the sheer ignorance in your statement is ubiquitous ...crtitical thinking skeptism are the main root of civilized and moral complex society ....even science disperse the existence of omnipotent being exist ...lolz ...go read and understand the Richard Dawkins book The God Delusion Carl Sagan on God existence ....

[@corniel657]

This

[@lionelproctor82]

It's not a mere narrative, but a fact. In Malaysia, the most Islamic states like Kelantan and Terengganu are not only socially backward but also economically backward.

[@aznanzuhidsaidin3512]

CNA is from singapore, not west, but I totally agree with you

[@ziggycat7504]

It's not conservative, for the Muslim it's the way of life; where life in the world is temporary, while life hereafter is eternity.

[@Kingcharleschow1]

Bs lah u

[@ziggycat7504]

@@Kingcharleschow1 The same response when the Prophets faced the kafirs before, but more painful than this. May you get guidance.

[@ziggycat7504]

@@Kingcharleschow1 The same response when the Prophets faced the kafirs then, but worse. Hope u get guidance.

[@Maxr9724]

Clearly not when quran & hadiths prove islam to be a fake & hateful deen.

[@amanokinji6220]

@@Kingcharleschow1 apa u tau, you da la kiasu tak berkawan dgn org. lol.

[@eu.p.5807]

I have met a few ex muslim Malays from Malaysia and Indonesia, and they are tired of religion being forced onto them. Many are hiding their ex-muslim identity, even though they still practiced their religious rituals to avoid suspicion from their community.

[@khairiyusoff5040]

Why don't they fear Allah?

[@eu.p.5807]

@@khairiyusoff5040 One told me that he has seen the community hypocrisy and he finds no meaning to be part of the community. Too much lies, disappointment and selfishness comes from the most religious.

[@burgundian_system]

@@eu.p.5807 nah blud aipac payed them to leave islam

[@Delina87]

It's sad, they keep reminding us that "we women are majority in hell"..and we are being forced to wear tudung masam and selekeh. We can't angry with cheating husband because it's a religious thing 😢

[@benzpinto]

@@Delina87 lol. tudung masam n selekeh. some guys do like tudung masam n selekeh.. 😉

[@StarrySunnie]

May Indonesia be multicultural country as it has existed with different races since long time ago, and was started as Non-Muslim during Indonesia Kingdom.

[@december1720]

If there is no Pancasila, Indonesia will started to look more like the middle east than the middle east it self 😂

[@SuperHutomo]

The sign of growing conservatism is very easy, look at the old photos of our parents or people before year 2000. I always find thay no woman wearing hijab those time. Now almost all muslim woman i see wear hijab. It is in Indonesia though.

[@mugiwaragang]

😂😂😂..thats not conservativism..this is not america..thats just show more and more woman concern about hukum fiqh..back in the days they were wearing tudung too..but not as today..today so many style so many choice..of you talking about p ramlee movie..dont compare la..they were celebs..even today not all malay celebs wear hijab/tudung today..theres a lot of pictures in 1920s where woman wear kain batik and selendang to cover their hair

[@Jim_Colbert]

Aku dulunya islam yg cukup taat...dulu bahkan saat rusuh di ambon pẽrnah berpikir berangkat kê sana...saat itu aku baru lulus sma .. Tapi setelah itu..banyak serangan teroris dí indo...bom malam natal..bom bali..jw marriot ..sejak saat itu aku mulai ragu pada islam..pikir2 apa Ya bener harus sampai seperti ini..? Sekarang mah udah gak peduli lagi ama agama..sholat juga gak pernah..bisa dikatakan udah keluar dari islam.. Tapi aku masih merayakan lebaran...pulang kampung ..silaturahmi...kuanggap saja sebagai tradisi...

[@pengikutsetia8424]

Itu namanya jilbabisasi

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." ❓

[@intriguingfacts5434]

@@Jim_Colbert Terorisme dalam Islam itu hal yang relatif baru....baru muncul setelah perang dingin selesai, terutama era Bush jr. Intinya, terorisme itu menguntungkan barat secara politik. Bahkan secara historis kristen jauh lebih kejam. Jangan mudah termakan isu media, lihat secara lebih luas secara historis.

[@whippedcreamandbergamot5919]

As a youth in Indonesia who study in the Western country. I'd say I prefer to be conservative, to follow the instruction of my religion, if it brings peace to my soul (and it does) rather than living in neo-lib people.

[@xiraoit9342]

No shut up!

[@azmiariff155]

well said, the world we live in is just temporary

[@KhattaMeethaOficial]

Peace Will Only come For You , But lot lives will be claimed and Countries economy will go down the drain because of The low Productivity..

[@DrMox-ny8qs]

Perhaps Singapore needs to be reminded of its history.

[@iPontianakz]

I don't know about Malaysia, but in Indonesia many young people are becoming irreligious.

[@loethariou220]

It is really sad to be honest

[@iPontianakz]

@@loethariou220 cultural shift, and I think that's a good thing

[@evaruv2050]

@@loethariou220 well in the early 2000s our people who addopted with western culture even got swipe away then the conservatiev trying to be dominant, thank god covid happened it literaly wokes our generation to become more liberal

[@noefvon]

​@@loethariou220its good thing to be honest.. i hate it when indonesian always talk about religion and not science etc2

[@min88288]

Indonesian are slightly better, at least they have religion freedom, unlike Malaysian majority.

[@faizaazambinzuki2600]

I don't think so. Are the non-Muslims being oppressed in Malaysia?

[@fairviewib]

@faizaazambinzuki2600 oppression not really. But inequality is there.

[@beach4041]

​@@fairviewibwhy so?

[@MELAYUSIA]

​@@beach4041u living under a tempurung ? U don't know which golongan gets goodies and a tongkat ? Or u buat - buat Tak tahu ?

[@min88288]

@@faizaazambinzuki2600 Try search Sukmawati Sukarnoputri, the daughter of Sukarno, already converted from Islam to Hinduism. Imagine this happened in neighboring country MY, may see the uproar and death threat from certain people.

[@Armz69]

“If i vote religious parties, me too gonna be religious” It is more like a compensatory mechanism, whether they are truly all that or not is up for debate. Classic case of social identity crisis and the politicians are really good at capitalizing on that.

[@bobbypurp5868]

Short answer yes Long answer no but as a singaporean, we prefer malaysia as retirement and vacation destination as its offers more tranquility than liberal indonesia. In indonesia, even football is glorified higher than religion for some people.

[@xiraoit9342]

Yeah and Bali Bombing Guru from Malaysia too (Noordin M Top)

[@kakablee]

Well said

[@Aksarallah]

There will always be community of people who glorify this temporary worlds pleasures

[@tuanlam1314]

identity politics become so entrenched in malaysia...

[@grainherstal1912]

So you're a bad person for simply voting for an islamic party ? Now i know why many people don't trust CNA's journalism. The quality of these analysis can support an entire circus.

[@greencat9150]

I think you need to know, Indonesia politic problem. What the men said is true. It’s dosent mean you will be bad person if you choose it. But he choose the best one , the middle one (nasionalis and also put religion in same way)

[@smilingface2006]

it's bad voting any religious party- me.

[@electric_sniper0076]

They did not explicitly said voting for an Islamic party makes them bad. They just implied youth’s exposure to racial and religious sentiments while being politically immature isn’t a good phenomenon. 3:35

[@Taliban.The.Hyperpower]

They go very cheap. CNA = insecure kiasu news

[@muhammadabyzard7970]

Nah. Religious parties are the thorns that hinders developments that could help the bigger scope of masses. What? No new roads, bridges, city beautification and etc. They only sit there waiting for our taxes while furthering their stupid agendas and practices. It's stupid. And I don't like it.

[@MNomad90]

Even as more muslims youth in Malaysia becoming more religious, they are still accepting of foreigners and are friendly towards them. In the western countries, people are becoming conservative with xenophobic and discriminatory behaviours. Americans vs Mexicans and hispanic minority, Canada vs foreign nationals, Britons against EU nationals, Australian vs Chinese immigrants, German vs Turkish minorities, France vs Algerian minority, Sweden vs Syrians refugees etc. In fact more, westerners are coming to live in Malaysia lately. You can see many youtubers would promote Malaysia as holiday destinations and a place to live and retire. Conservatives countries like UAE, Qatar and Saudi Arabia now are fast becoming developed countries and world-class while liberal western countries are sinking down the drain. In the long run, Malaysian religious conservatism will prevail over ridiculous liberal agenda of the west.

[@jly5828]

Say by the geng who said there is 1.2 Million Chinese National in Malaysia , Malaysia Home Affair Minister has denied this fake news and the geng still non stop using this fake news to attack the government.

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُوْنَ الْكٰفِرِيْنَ اَوْلِيَآءَ مِنْ دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِيْنَ ۚ وَمَنْ يَّفْعَلْ ذٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّٰهِ فِيْ شَيْءٍ اِلَّاۤ اَنْ تَتَّقُوْا مِنْهُمْ تُقٰٮةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّٰهُ نَفْسَهٗ ۗ وَاِ لَى اللّٰهِ الْمَصِيْرُ "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."

[@jiep5327]

They don't want to see the truth that we are just ok the way we are...why should they bother about other country? They should fix their own...prove to us their way is better...

[@expand9487]

ISLAM poses a significant threat to the foundations of education, progress, and the ethic of hard work. We must eliminate this detrimental ideology from the societal fabric to prevent it from undermining overall advancement. My observations confirm this; politicians are increasingly appealing to Islimist for electoral gains, rather than decisively confronting and dismantling it. Atatürk made considerable strides in this regard, but unfortunately, current policies under Erdogan seem to be reversing these achievements. If this trend continues, there is a risk of regressing to an backward way of life reminiscent of 7th-century Arabian man.

[@myownopinion6676]

This is the fear of Lee Kuan Yew

[@MalayanRakyat-ls2cw]

Endorse laziness

[@bittercoffee5362]

QUANTITATIVELY speaking, western Christianity (Germanic/Anglo-Saxon variant) and the modern phenomenon of Zionism has done far more harm, if one entertains your false premise for even a moment.

[@philipemilio835]

@@bittercoffee5362what has Islam contributed to the development of harmony and progress in today’s world… besides terrorism??

[@mohamad150178]

One word : ISLAMOPHOBE

[@muhammadhisyamimaduddin2219]

As an Indonesian, I don't think so. I grew up having conservative parents, also most of my friends are the same, somehow all of us don't deliberately ended up as conservative. In fact, we're trying not to be one.

[@agusfirmansyah35]

As indonesian i dont trust islamic party, but i choose leader with good islamic behavior

[@fabiyafabiya8091]

Yes that's right thing to do

[@AlCothyra]

radical islam is a snake and liberal islam is the grass that hides the snake.

[@subhadippaul4494]

arent the islamic party trying to ensure "good islamic behaviour" for all ?

[@agusfirmansyah35]

@@subhadippaul4494 nope, they just bucnh of dude with money, little islamic knowledge and islamic suite, the real ulama didn’t interested politic

[@NathanAEnver]

This observation of Indonesia is a bit off, Indonesian youth are also increasingly conservative but in different ways, while the muslim youths of Malaysia are socially more activist in their conservatism, and tend to more radicalized, meaning they would likely to actively oppose unislamic behavior whenever they can, Muslims youth in Indonesia are(at least most of them, especially in java island) keeping it for themselves, they pray more(5times a day), muslimah(female muslim) wearing hijab more, halal everything, changing "unislamic" cultural practices to suit the sharia, etc. But they tend to follow and support Islamic clerics, ullema, and ustadz that are easy-going, modern-minded, tolerant and moderate, they also avoid any contents that uses Islam as political tools, even I, an atheist(former muslim/a murtad) is much more comfortable hanging out with my religious friends(they rarely skip 5times prayers), rather than my family, because they never talk about religion, unlike the older generation, they more mindful and sensitive about that subject. Also, unlike malaysia where muslim is stereotypically "malay", in Indonesia that's not the case, so the muslim can't simply "unite under 1way or sentiment" A and B might be Muslim, but they eat different foods for iftar and shahoor, A maybe eat sweeter foods, B maybe eat spicier foods, and that's just food, how about the mindset? It's simple, Indonesian youth are Religiously Conservative, Socially moderate-liberal. And Indonesia also have larger population so she automatically have more liberal-minded and non-muslim demographics.

[@fareezaizat8684]

im malaysian, when you say malaysian muslim tend to be radicalized by oppose any unislamic behaviour, can you elaborate more...how can a muslim oppose unislamic behaviour become "radicalized"?? they just be a muslim, basically my understanding of wht u trying to say is muslim be a muslim and practicing Islam is consider as "radical"...am i right? if it is then you sound radical to me in secular perspective

[@NathanAEnver]

@@fareezaizat8684 Since you're a Malay I'm just gonna use bahasa to be more close and understandable, Jadi tuan, radikal dalam ibadah itu sebenarnya tak apa, sembahyang 5 waktu(5times prayer), dzikir, zakat, dsb. Bahkan 98% teman saya muslim, jangankan teman, keluarga saya pun muslim semua, basically I'm a murtad, but I know Sharia laws and other Islamic teachings because I go to madrasa, anyway, when they should've been working with me, I let them pray while I'm still working, that's fine I have no problem at all, people have their own beliefs lah, tapi itu harus dua arah, saya menghormati tuan, janganlah melarang saya ketika saya minum alkohol atau memakan babi, menyuruh saya shalat dan kembali ke Islam, dan "Alhamdulillah" di Indonesia ini saling respect tuan, ketika mereka tau saya ni murtad tapi hormat dengan mereka, bahkan help them to do their religious duties, they also respect me with letting me to become who I am, an atheist. That's not the case for the Malay youths, if you not affluent enough to protect yourself, you will succumb to paksaan oleh orang sekitar yang mencampuri urusanmu, that's just the society, the government? I can sued goverment official if they denied me to change my religion or refuse service because of my faith, in Malaysia? Read the news..

[@NathanAEnver]

@@fareezaizat8684 basically minding your own business and be devout Muslim is NOT radical Islamist, but when you advocate for the basic of the laws, the rules of the government, should be in favor of islamic laws and in effect discriminating people who have different opinions and believe than Islam, then you are a radical-islamist.

[@NathanAEnver]

@@fareezaizat8684 in Indonesia there's plenty of transgender actress that are successful, yes many people say bad comments, but generally, while opposing the idea of transgender, Indonesian still holds their breath, enjoying what the actress do, even support what's their doing(not their transition, but they refrain from talking it all the time), while I see a famous malaysian transgender, and most of people are calling her bad names, judging and ridicule her. I'm not saying Indonesian are the nicest people on internet, quite the contrary sometimes, but they are increasingly aware of differentiating between their values and other people's values. Basically becoming more bhineka tunggal ika, different, but one.

[@fareezaizat8684]

@@NathanAEnver dalam islam sendiri hukuman bagi murtad sebahagian ulama menyatakan qisas (bunuh) tp dilakukan oleh penguasa bukan orang awam, tu pun setelah dikaunseling dan diajak kembali kepada Islam, tp ada sebahagian ulama menyatakan qisas utk murtad tu hanya sekadar takzir(hukuman yg ditetapkan oleh pemimpin/pemerintah bukan ketetapan agama) bukannya hudud....apa2 pun mcm mana kamu dgn yakinnya rasakan orang Melayu seperti itu? kamu duduk di Malaysia ke? kalau betul pun, itu adalah usaha utk mengajak orang tu kembali kepada Islam, pada kami orang yang keluar Islam ni satu hal yg besar kerana hukumannya pun sangat serious...thats part of Islamic belief

[@FerAu46]

Honestly, me myself since 17yrs old live in hedonism and always strive to become rich. But now I'm 35 yrs old and start thinking I cant forever live like this, I got everything I'm looking for, money, house, wife, job..Now i know, this is not my life goal..thus I'm back to Islam, to Allah, to Prophet Muhammad PBUH. I strive for hereafter..😢 O Allah please forgive my ignorance..

[@dariusalias870]

Betul betul, hidup ini terlalu singkat, kita tak tau hari esok kita macamana kan

[@ZhenYae]

And these are the goals of billions, without being a Muslim.

[@jaytee283]

Islam is false. So think on that. Read the Gospel instead.

[@ZhenYae]

@jaytee283 Clarification. Jesus was a communist, and he was never white or individualistic. He was Asian. White worship has its cost.

[@benzpinto]

as humans at some point of their life, they realise they have spiritual needs once they have all their basic needs met. spiritual needs is not necessarily religion but one’s acceptance of reality and his/her relationship with nature and universe for peace of mind.

[@Picklepuppy00]

For Indonesia the answer is no, when we talk about politics, entertainment etc in Indonesia, we don't like to associate it with religion.

[@YaBegitulah1]

Indonesia tends to be moderate, meaning that it is in the middle between Progressive and Conservative, it is more balanced than choosing far left or far right, moderate can take the progressive side and the conservative side.

[@joMan1060]

As an Indonesian, i 100% agree

[@healtyme2194]

Diindo banyak aliran sesat

[@humdedum723]

I think Indonesia is more progressive than conservative

[@wishfultee]

Biased. You can't profile 2 very diverse populations with such tiny samples. The so-called "secular" Indonesians interviewed are no different from a huge percentage of Malaysian youths, and so many Indonesians are similar to the "religious" Malaysians portrayed too. There is a wide spectre of muslim youths in both countries, they're not all the same. While muslims on average are more religious these days in BOTH countries, much of the increased vote shares for PAS can be attributed to dissatisfaction for UMNO and distrust for Pakatan. It'd be naive to think that PAS won more seats this time mainly because people have become more religious. Not so simple.

[@029_rafeehidayat3]

I’m Indonesian we are becoming less conservative, especially among the young. Terror attacks and violent Islamist political parties made us rethink our stance on religion. It’s best not to involve Islam in politics, FPI was banned 3 years ago and it helped.

[@wishfultee]

@@029_rafeehidayat3 Glad to hear how Indonesia has progressed positively after going through the darker days! I guess Malaysians are still figuring things out, so there's a lot of noise. When you say Indonesians are becoming less conservative, how would you describe that? Are people more accepting of minorities? Or?

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."

[@029_rafeehidayat3]

@@wishfultee we were always accepting towards minorities, it’s been that way since a long time ago I should say. Indonesia has been pushing for a long time towards national identity instead of certain religious groups. We’re just really too busy with modernizing and riding the wave of infrastructure development and the current nickel boom. That we really couldn’t give a damn about religious fundamentalism. We’re just fed up being called poor country Malaysia needs to get rid of their current constitution that gives Malay Muslims privilege over other races. I’d they want to have more national unity.

[@029_rafeehidayat3]

I was thought to think that I’m Indonesian first then my ethnic and religious background. Talk to any chinese indonesian and they will say that I’m indonesian rather than their ethnic background. Most people don’t know their lineage here and race mixing is very common. Still needs some work on accepting sexual minorities tho. It’s not banned in our constitution but it hasn’t been recognized also

[@Transformersrobotpower]

Malay already conservative even before malaysia exist. because our race are merge with islam, this have no problem in Malaysia since Malay & and islam already merged together, we are ethnoreligious, (race with only 1 religion) similar like jews, which only adopt judaism Javanese are different. they never merge their race with religion, they are not ethnoreligious, you can find javanese hindu, javanese christian, javanese muslim, but no way you will find malay adopt other religion except islam Javanese and malay are different. sadly, most chinese & indian didnt know about this Thats why javanese decendant in malaysia have no choice other than assimilate themselves into malay society because they fear malay people will reject them, Malay are simple, if you claim you are muslim but not follow / practicing islam, you will never be part of our family indonesia is javanese majority country, they are not malay

[@aungmyintoo4635]

Malay start become conservative after 2000s, before that they are all liberal.

[@Transformersrobotpower]

no. we Malay already adopt arabic name after accept islam hundred years ago javanese did not like to adopt arabic name, they still retained their sanskrit name even after they accept islam, even they accept islam, they are not serious about practicing it, unlike malay. the one you see liberal malay is elite people, not the whole class of malay javanese almost of them are liberal

[@puterilisa260]

When we try to practise our religion people says we are conservative. Islam is the way of life. It is not just a religion. Whatever Muslim do in their life is always connected to their religion. Learn Islam very well and you will understand. How to rule the country, sports, marriage and divorce, business, trade, studies, law enforcement, anything and everything has it's general and specific rules.

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

@@puterilisa260 qAllah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."???

[@puterilisa260]

@@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt ok. The points is....

[@bartocastro3672]

In Malaysia, the growth of private religious and tahfiz school are quite sporadic in the last decade. This generation are the key group of the young eligible voters now. I think that's the major factor.

[@ibundanur7534]

So.. What the problem? Tahfiz was private school, not like SJKC chinese school government support. We pay all cost for our children.

[@benzpinto]

@@ibundanur7534since there is no standardization and regulation, how do u know a tahfiz is not teaching something radical? what if one of the teacher is from afganistan and teaching extremism?

[@pustakarileks7404]

Do you know the purpose of this? This is just economic ecosystem

[@bestbeast74]

​@@benzpintomost of the teachers are Malaysian..only focusing on teaching of Correct way of reading Quranic verses and memorizing it...

[@Delina87]

Malaysia also became more sensitive and destroyed entertainment industry and cultures. More parents send their children to tahfiz which the course is not helpful to the country's development. People always focused on "free hair women" as serious issue compared to economy and corruption. They used to be hero on Rohingya's issue and invited them to this country as muslim brotherhood, but now they regret about it. Soon we will end up like Pakistan and Bangladesh

[@Gossuarit]

Vote for Islamist party = conservative Vote for non-Islamist party = liberal Tf is this analysis😂

[@Mochi5065]

If not?

[@cashi4225]

Some believe that Islamic value does not have to stated openly. Just bring it in their internal policy. Including me.

[@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj]

I mean Taliban doesn’t evenl let girls receive proper education

[@screamaskzxyers]

because voting is a form of expressing political ideology bruuh, you didn't vote for political party with different point of view looking on political agenda with your own did you? Islamist party of course has Islamic political agenda, it's you who decided to support it or not.

[@amanokinji6220]

CNA just doing their role as a sensational journalism. I'm living peacefully here with my Chinese neighbor upstairs. Associating Islamic teaching with Taliban or Isis, is equivalent to associating Christianity with KKK. And it tells me how western media manage to influence your understanding about Islam. Just come to Malaysia. See if you can spot a women's driver or a women CEO here, pfttt. my mom is a director of company.

[@amjanwaters6142]

What is the scope of conservatism in this context? Is CNA using a western minded definition of conservatism? These two countries were never liberal in the first place.

[@asyariazhar3327]

My thought exactly

[@crispusallen3865]

Creating friction is cna's forte

[@teckza3528]

Because Singapore is western allies so thats why their media same like Western media

[@yukihanna6519]

Duh... BFF serail like this one

[@muhammadzulkifli5522]

Indonesia pernah menjadi negara liberal saat Presiden Soeharto Menjabat

[@shaqisumari304]

Thats apparently truth, they had become so easily radicalised, it has become hinderance towards more harmonious societies

[@mugiwaragang]

😂😂😂 ...all side are the same..dap,pas,pkr,umno..same everyone just manipulate rakyat emotions and fear ...dont pretend the chinese dont play sentiment..they scare their own by saying if muslim pas rule all cina tak bole hidup

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."

[@nurulainmohdkhalid360]

Not really..you're just stereotyping 😏

[@84yyds81]

​@@mugiwaragang yes, it is happening, they banned the non's right in their states, and claim that it is not their culture, and they wanted to implement it to all the states if they take over. Famous quote: When they are in the minority they are very concerned with minority rights, when they are in the majority there are no minority rights

[@mrj475]

BS..

[@17meisha]

Menurut saya indonesia memang lebih liberal, anak2 muda lebih menganut surat al-kafirun. Dimana apapun agama orang lain yg penting kita main bareng, dan menurut saya itu bagus berarti toleransi indonesia semakin tinggi. Itu salah satu alasan kenapa agama di indonesia sudah tidak bisa lagi dipolitisasi. Menurut saya liberal atau konservatif tidak masalah karena tidak ada jaminan kalo orang konservatif lebih beragama/berilmu dari orang2 liberal. Hanya Allah yg tahu isi hati orang lain. Lagian agama itu bukan ajang balapan, dan yang bisa memberi hidayah itu Tuhan. Jadi kenapa harus takut? Negara sekuler dan liberal terbesar di dunia sekelas Amerika saja penganut agama islamnya semakin bertambah. Sekali lagi agama itu urusan manusia dan Allah. Tapi sebagai orangtua, saya hanya mengajarkan batas rendah dan atas sebagai muslim konservatif dan liberal. Jadi anak saya tidak akan terlalu konservatif hingga menjadi radikal, dan tidak terlalu liberal hingga ia menjadi sesat.

[@colinagun9073]

Not conservative, but toward hardline extremist, more like Afghanistan

[@029_rafeehidayat3]

Hmmm…. We’re not talking about those guys. Those are extremists and they seek to destroy our pancasila. Indonesias still has an ongoing war on terror

[@Gossuarit]

That’s false. We become religious to find meaning in life

[@nurulainmohdkhalid360]

Congrats for being brainwashed 😁

[@imanhafiz9846]

everone knows afgans are much more extreme than here,we have law and order,and what you’re saying here are completely ignorant and borderline hate speech.

[@penangites693]

Pdrm pls angkut this racist

[@muhammadhanif4113]

Indonesia already facing the radicalism since early days of independence,religious radicalism or communist radicalism we've been through of it,we more mature than malaysian how to select information from scholars,politicians or religious figures.

[@SuperHutomo]

Indeed, the radicalism had always given Dutch Colonialist headache due to stubborn Terrorists who refused to submit to Dutch during military aggretion.

[@bittercoffee5362]

That was not organic; that was manufactured. The USA carefully removed the actual genuinely ethical/moral leader who followed the principles of Islam with a fake Islamist who (ironically, against the basic tenants of Islam) was supposedly a Jinn conjourer. Unlike US-backed-(fake)-"Islamist" Suharto, Sukarno was an ethical and moral person who tried to create a just economy and just social policies. Indonesia would've looked very different had he not been deposed of by the West. America's eyes were on Indonesia's gold deposits, and they certainly did not want a Gold-backed Indonesian currency as it would've reversed an important aspect of colonialism.

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." ，❔

[@AhamdMushaffa]

We are just slightly better Tbh. But the radicalist posing a threat for the existence of Indonesia thats Why I chose Prabowo for the job. Not Anies. If Anies won R.I.P Minority.

[@mrroazam3977]

Yeah who cares about your opinion. Indonesia is Indonesia, Malaysia is Malaysia. Mind your own country.

[@lebbeus]

Muslim: We are conservative Fox news: Hold my gun

[@Tamayo.Sama2023]

In indonesia we don't like politicians who using religion mostly islam as their tools. That's why anis lost the election. The trend right now is nationalist. Islam in Indonesia is different, Unity in Diversity

[@Aksarallah]

Nationalism is outdated and illogical. It limits your love for others within borders that was drawn by the British. All Nations will fall, all religions will die except Islam that will stand till the hour

[@cinefile0075]

​​@@Aksarallah😂😂😂 brainwashed

[@bodhi590]

@@Aksarallah bro think that religion is logical

[@Aksarallah]

@@bodhi590 yes 🗿

[@Mr.dojiii]

Malaysia : Yes Indonesia : No. Only the older generation still conservative. But the GEN Z is NO. That's why you can find 18+ movie from indonesia but in malaysia is impossible😂

[@ahan300]

Listening to a preacher is not wrong but "LGBT concert in holy month of Ramadan"? You better fact check what preacher said. Do not take 100% as true. They may lie. If the preacher said the world is flat, I believe you will just follow. Very sad for Malaysia.

[@TestTest-g2w]

We know what to do. If we are that dumb, we would have many different conflicting sects that serves the interests of the sects' leaders only. You don't see that right? In fact the Ramadhan and the 5 daily prayer you see in America is the same as the ones we do here. That shows the integrity of our beliefs and how the preachers do their jobs well. We can even pick out deviant preachers ourselves, so don't worry.

[@Mochi5065]

I think sabah sarawak is doing quite well. Not quite sure about peninsular.

[@abdulrhmainkarim5566]

If west said there are more than two genders you would follow it

[@nnnz6018]

We malay muslims are not stupid. We learnt something from ustaz/ ustazah which is a 'preacher' as you said. But we ourselves must know whether it is true or not. We do not simple and blindly follow things that are not true. That's why if there is any misinformation, it will be reevaluate by various persons and then will be reminded. And those ustaz or ustazah have their own 'kepakaran' so as for me, i love to learn based on their speaciality

[@_91K_]

Their "conservative" is bashing and vehemently criticizing things they disagree with even when its 99.99% harmless, e.g. girls without hijab, or coldplay concert. Doing these vicious verbal abuse, to them is a "good deed".

[@Halaqa]

Haram is harmful.

[@nellieevans1540]

@@Halaqa Yet so many halal people love haram stuffs.

[@KhalixMR]

​@@nellieevans1540haram is still harmful no matter how many people like it

[@musjo3405]

I'm one of those youths...I do consider myself more religious than my mom's generation, although my mom's generation became more religious as they grew older. Most of us young Malaysians are practicing more of the religion compared to before because we do not want to be like those generations before us who used to wear skimpy clothing, drink alcohol, not praying. Previous generations I observe were more laid back in religion, but there were so many social problems (drunk, divorce, domestic violence because of alcohol and gambling). My generation are are more conscious of religion and we try to follow as much as we can. I don't see it as a bad thing because it makes us less 'wild' and because we are more 'God Fearing', most of us don't dare do bad things.

[@loethariou220]

This is not the same case for us indonesian youths as more and more of our youths becoming irreligious during their teenage years, but for me religion is the most important thing in my life

[@Lilly_bi56]

That's good if following religion brings harmony and peace in life it must be followed then

[@Gossuarit]

love how they put “radical” and “Islam” in the same sentence. Totally not equating em, wow unbiased cna😂

[@zirohito2580]

Aipac paid hard 😂

[@bandwidth82]

What is CNA motives for making this clip with this subject?

[@WasLostButNowAmFound]

What is the Objective of the current King of Malaysia when he told the Malays who want to be Arabs to go live in the Middle East Desert?

[@demonzabuza2225]

What do you expect from Singapork aka Israel Asean media?

[@mountaindew20]

@@WasLostButNowAmFoundwho ? which ? when ?

[@WasLostButNowAmFound]

@@mountaindew20 JOHOR BARU (The Star/Asia News Network) - The Sultan of Johor has called on Malays not to discard their unique culture, saying he was disturbed that some people want to stop Muslims from practising the traditional salam greeting. Sultan Ibrahim Ibni Almarhum Sultan Iskandar said he was sticking to "my customs and traditions as a Malay because I'm born Malay". "If there are some of you who wish to be an Arab and practise Arab culture, and do not wish to follow our Malay customs and traditions, that is up to you. "I also welcome you to live in Saudi Arabia. "That is your right but I believe there are Malays who are proud of the Malay culture. At least I am real and not a hypocrite and the people of Johor know who their ruler is," he said. He said, for example, he preferred to use terms like Hari Raya instead of Eid al-Fitr, or buka puasa instead of iftar. "I have been using these Malay terms since I was a child and speaking to my late father for the past 50 years.

[@WasLostButNowAmFound]

@@mountaindew20 alamak who? what? when? Mahathir teach you your English?

[@anglo-saxonconnor817]

How do media want to define conservative then? If giving up and turning their backs on radical westernised lifestyle,ideals and values are considered as conservative then this is a blessing for malaysia then as her youths are holding and cherishing the traditions and holistic values of their faith and asian culture instead.

[@austen98]

While I agree with your statement above, in part, the problem here, for the Malaysian Muslims, is if they are making an informed choice in doing so. This article would have your believe that identity politics or, in this case, political conservatism is rising in Malaysia and falling in Indonesia when nothing can be further from the truth. In fact, they are a lot closer than you think. The fact is, going back to your comment above, Malaysian youths are the swing voters of this generation and, currently, they are voting PAS as evidenced in their 2022 general elections. While this clip asks the question "why", it doesn't really answer it.

[@jjsamuelgunn1136]

are democracy, rule of law, equal racial rights, human rights, freedom of religion considered 'radical' western ideas and values in your conservative viewpoint?

[@ssuwandi3240]

Am glad that former President Trump recently encourages the return to the Bible as one of American beliefs "in God we trust" and "God bless America". The radical West movement has triggered too much violence tbh it is time to get back to the middle

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." 🙈

[@quannguyen2899]

While most parts of the world are becoming more tolerant, acceptant and open minded. Muslim countries are becoming more radical and extreme. I'm worried what the world is heading to.

[@mtaufiqnmtn]

You know that christianity and hinduism does have similar trait, their devout follower heading toward conservatism too

[@quannguyen2899]

​@@mtaufiqnmtn I admit that there are some extreme Christian and Hindu or even Buddhist, and most of the time, it doesn't affect people. But Muslim extremism is just on a whole new level that ... I'm speechless.

[@aqildarwisy-np3ds]

bruh , do you know ..singapore neigbour is muslim dominant country?? just respect . singapore also a muslim island before chinese and indian arrived to this region

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

​@@quannguyen2899Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: يٰۤـاَيُّهَا الَّذِيْنَ اٰمَنُوْا قَا تِلُوا الَّذِيْنَ يَلُوْنَكُمْ مِّنَ الْكُفَّا رِ وَلْيَجِدُوْا فِيْكُمْ غِلْظَةً ۗ وَا عْلَمُوْاۤ اَنَّ اللّٰهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِيْنَ "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous." do other religions teach this?

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

​​@@mtaufiqnmtnAllah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." *❓

[@rizqi1179]

As if you try to make affiliating with something islamic is wrong or embarrassing. It's their country, it's their land. Let them do what they wish with it. Everything have balance. Even their God do not like something excessive.

[@martin96991]

Which God? Alla? Who've ordered to kill non believers who don't believe in it. It is definitely not a God.

[@PunkDogCreations]

*god, not God.

[@rizqi1179]

@@martin96991 I will not feed you. Point is, it's their country...is not us, we, me, you. Stop being salty in every period. Even periods have their own days.

[@rizqi1179]

@@ShadowX2023Pro nah, Europe is Europe, migrant should know better. Or better yet, why not migrate to a similar culture so there can be less friction. If I may so bold, just fight to the death if need be so you need not to migrate. I once knew a nomad community, they talked about avoiding tax, war, and many reasons for living in their preferred countries. In my view, these kind of people are the first to abandon just to save their own skin from scratches.

[@Maxr9724]

​@@rizqi1179Point is muslims r not native to either Malaysia or Indonesia, they were occupied by trade relations.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Indonesia has always been less converative than Malaysia though, remember their non-Muslim population is far larger than Malaysia's.

[@joMan1060]

You cant say like that. Indonesian population is bigger then Malaysia, but Indonesia have only 12% minority. While Malaysia have around 25% minority.

[@muhammadabyzard7970]

​@@joMan1060 Number dude. Numbers. Look, our Christian population is alot bigger than 50% of European countries. That one already speaks volume on how we Indonesians sees ourselves as citizens of a country based on diversity.

[@d15z1sux]

It's always dangerous when you have people who listen word for word from figures who are out of touch with the rest of society. When religion is placed as a priority over all else in turn you will have a country which will struggle in all other aspects. Economics, health, education when all these are already not the best and you decide to make religion a priority over these the country will take a few steps backwards.

[@Yam_Yam305]

not a fact.. it's your opinion

[@d15z1sux]

@@Yam_Yam305 and that is your opinion, but you can look through history as history is the greatest teacher.

[@Yam_Yam305]

@@d15z1sux give me an example of being religion being dangerous in the political specturm except the last 2 centuries in regards to when Islamic rules are being governed in a region there were several factors as well. Addionally, I can give you instances when Islamic laws were lagislated as the governing body but not only the empire flourished on a economic sphere but also on technological advancement such as mid-umayyads, abbasids, mamluks, ottomans and I can go on.

[@d15z1sux]

@@Yam_Yam305 I mean the last two centuries is entirely relevant, in saying that there's great Islamic based empires that have been around in the past. Nowadays though they are fighting to force a different brand of Islam onto others through means of violence.

[@Yam_Yam305]

@@d15z1sux sure, we strongly condemn such groups if it doesen't allign with true Islamic ethics such as ISIS and other zealotical so called "islamic" groups or countries.. majority of muslim countries nowadays are not even implementing all the islamic laws in the political spectrum diluting with liberal and democratic values. Not to mention that majority of muslim world got colonoized by the eurpoeans in the last 2 centuries, hence, you percieve our impoverished state. The reason i said *except* last century because those terrorist groups are not the absolute face of Islam just as the crusades were not the true face of Christanity. In 90% of Muslim history we were the super power of the world or one of the superpowers of the world. Remember when a country or empire is a world leading power, it's values which it abides by will also influence the whole globe And pls for god's sake, don't take minute percentage of Islamic history and inferring this is what religion does to politics and social welfare while overlooking our trimpuhs.

[@girlleo2807]

as a muslim malay malaysian, to me, by all means islam first. islam is not simply ritual religion but it is a way of life that encompasses whole aspects in this life and the hereafter. islam is beyond science and technology coz it is advanced. i can see that malaysian youngsters especially the aborigins / natives of the land that are called bumiputera, they are open minded and love to seach deeper on things including the history of themselves, the country and everything. they are not bigots. they just became the better version of their parents.

[@JOUJOU.m3]

You're right ,don't listen to this propoganda.I'm revert muslim french 🇨🇵☪️ and Islam is my way of life .Sorry for my english

[@nnnz6018]

@user-gu2qq3rh3wbruh sorry to say but how do you know malay does not learn any of that 😂. We strictly follow mazhab syafie because you can't just cherry pick things you like from different mazhab. Pick one and follow it . Usually Malaysian will only follow one and it is Imam Syafie so that whta we learn and practice is same and easy to follow

[@VivekKamble-ir4xq]

​@@JOUJOU.m3muslim are outdated because of this conservative nature

[@VivekKamble-ir4xq]

​@@nnnz6018you people are following arab culture in the name of religion 😂

[@amanokinji6220]

@@JOUJOU.m3 May Allah guide us all, Amiin

[@Nrmnzhr]

Malaysia has so much potential but sadly is getting more conservative. The British segregated us by race and the laws prevent any Malays to change their religion until today. Hence, the people in Peninsular are divisive and racism is an issue here. In contrast to West Malaysia, Sarawak is more liberal and open to assimilate with other races. This is bcs there are many Bumiputera who aren't muslims there and the majority citizens are Christians. People from different background have no issue to eat together at a non-halal restaurant. As a Malay Muslim myself, I agreed that Malays Peninsular must be liberal to move Malaysia forward. We have to be more lenient towards other races and prevent any religion extremists from growing in number. Remember, not all Bumiputera are muslims. Malays cannot get the support and respect from other races if we keep sidelining people in their own Tanah Air. Let's keep our religion as a personal faith and turn this country to a greater Malaysia 🇲🇾

[@novandita9071]

saya indonesia dan saya memandang islam paling utama jika islam tegak toleransi akan datang juga buktinya ada pada kisah riyanto banser natal islam is best way of life

[@moh6410]

riyanto loved jesus

[@novandita9071]

@@moh6410 riyanto is a muslim, we muslim love jesus as prophet not as god, god is only 1 not 3 in 1, riyanto is a muslim not christian, buta still he did what he did for Allah

[@moh6410]

@@novandita9071 hindus and buddhism once dominated indonesia, due to hindus/buddhism, islam was allowed to enter indonesia. hence hindus/buddhsm are more tolerance.

[@novandita9071]

@@moh6410 hindus tolerance only in Indonesia, not the hindus but the indonesian people, same like budhis, look at india how many muslim die there? Look at rohingya in myanmar, how many monk that killed muslim there, we indonesia are friendly yes, and with islam the tolerence sky rocket, thats why we have riyanto, the mix between our people and islam

[@ibrahimalli2474]

Muslims in Malaysia are getting more conservative which is a norm nowadays. Why it is a big issue? I guess due to the facts that these conservatives are professional and well verse in English. It won't be a big fuss if these conservatives are illiterate and very poor.

[@dydactic1112]

True, I know some educated professionals who studied abroad but can memorise the Quran. They are doctors and engineers.

[@amanokinji6220]

I dunno why CNA a Singaporean media outlet so interested to highlight this to the world, maybe their genocider-friend asking for help, Malaysia netizens is giving us trouble here. "Hey CNA, we don't wanna have 200 million Muslims here stay true to their religion, please help us painted the image of conservative=extremist" said that 1 genocider in middle east.

[@jiep5327]

They don't even dare to criticize their partner...even when their partner involve in genocide...stop taking any advice from this hypocrite people...just a waste of time...

[@jefri4176]

Thank god majority indonesian is still holding true to pancasila as their ideology 😊. That way we can be more advanced in future instead of holding on to the past or using religion glorifying the past achievements instead of making new achievements ahead.

[@sdm3032]

Hope one day Indonesia become a superpower and teach malaysia a lesson...its already started happening now...Indo is developing fast and MY going backwards. Wishes frm indian in malaysia

[@JiyaYa-sh9vb]

​@sdm3032 But animation in malaysia are developing

[@JiyaYa-sh9vb]

​@sdm3032 But animation in malaysia are developing

[@sdm3032]

@@JiyaYa-sh9vbLol what can u do with just animation 🤣🤣

[@JiyaYa-sh9vb]

@sdm3032 you say MY going backwards. But the animation are developing and even reach to the Japan, Indonesia and Vietnam. What with the teach 'malaysia a lesson'? Why didn't you become someone who bring MY upwards then? Are you even love this country?

[@BronAsreal]

Indonesia have seen what excessive religionism has affected their political lives that they are no longer seen more conservative and become towards liberal. Malaysia on the other hand, is still relatively new on grasping how excessive religionism will affect their political lives. Both countries lived in the safe religious bubble sphere. The difference: Indonesia burst first and now is trying to create a new ideological or political safe sphere, that they do not want to rely on religion anymore.

[@tripriagiwiguna]

Me as an Indonesian personally i dont like being called moderate muslim but i also dont like when someone calling me fundamentalist/conservative muslim. It sounds derogatory to me. I always tried to do what muslim suppose to do like daily prayer, charity, fasting in ramadhan and inshaallah someday i will go pilgrim to mekkah and avoid anything that considered as sin such as consuming non halal foods, drinking alcohol, gambling, indecency behaviour etc

[@VivekKamble-ir4xq]

First become human not muslim

[@iPontianakz]

@@VivekKamble-ir4xq and what about you

[@aisukururimu7515]

Indonesia as far as I know, is becoming more and more secular as time passes on. I wouldn't say we're leaving our Indonesian roots at all yet, lots of Indonesian youths are still expressing their interest in local cultures, history and heritages, and you can clearly see it in the games they made like Dreadout or A Space for the Unbound, we just wanted to leave our own mark in said heritage to put it into perspective From what I'm seeing, this happens not only to the Islamic community within Indonesia, but to the entire population as a whole. Not all young Indonesian Muslims have a positive opinion on Arab countries just like how not all young Indonesian Christians have a positive opinion on Israel, even thought their parents are most likely be inclined to side with those countries

[@PiKay2304]

The reason why Indonesia is relatively progressing forward in leaps and bounds when compared to Malaysia , which is regressing in leaps and bounds.

[@albar-maulana]

I don’t know what defines conservative in terms of religion.. indonesian youths care a lot about their religions.. but mostly keep their faith for themselves.. because they are tired of hypocrisy from the same side or the other side

[@nurulainmohdkhalid360]

Not interested in concerts too. Why should I idolize someone who doesn't even know my name. Idolizing culture is toxic and let's make khilafah great again!

[@84yyds81]

same like idolize ustaz, how do you look at others at the concert, just like how others look at your at ustaz talk show, both are same idolizing culture

[@nurulainmohdkhalid360]

@@84yyds81 everything in this world shouldn't be taken into extremes. People who think religious people are fanatics should mirror themselves when they have their own version of God too

[@84yyds81]

​@@nurulainmohdkhalid360 It's not a problem for individuals to have their own version of God, but when they prohibit others from having own God or even force others to adhere to their version of God, that's the problem that's the extreme that's fanatics

[@nurulainmohdkhalid360]

@@84yyds81 so that's stereotyping. So u painted everyone as extremist just because of political related issues ? You sure ?

[@nurulainmohdkhalid360]

@@84yyds81 to be honest, I don't really care if people are worshipping celebrities , lifestyle whatever but just stop stereotyping

[@Masonicon]

my biggest problem with this lies on Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia considering even Shia Muslims "Kafir"

[@amanokinji6220]

what is your understanding about the word "Kafir" or shia? can you eloborate more how was those term is a problem for you?

[@ftselalu]

what about muslim youth in singapore ?

[@timungcina]

In Malaysia many parents send their children to religious schools or tahfiz schools... no wonder this happens... Alhamdulillah...

[@bittercoffee5362]

When Europe and America are becoming more ethno-nationalism and shamelessly imperialist as opportunistic liberal crusaders, Chinese diaspora more Han centred, Russia more assured of its Eastern Orthodox tradition, why would it be strange for Malaysians and Indonesias to affiliate more with their religion - a religion that transcends ethnic and nationalist boundaries.

[@jjsamuelgunn1136]

a religion that transcends ethnic boundaries? how come malaysia introduce and implement special racial privileges for malays? is this part the teaching of their islamic religion?

[@jopesulaiman]

@@jjsamuelgunn1136 look history first then talk.why it happen. chaos happen all will lose

[@user-sl8gi3vb6e]

@@jjsamuelgunn1136Being Han-Chinese, I've found most Muslims in several countries are friendly, moderate, willing to share their cultures and discuss controversial issues in a peaceful manner. In contrast, a large percentage of the atheist Chinese are aggressive, arrogant, ready to destroy everything they don't like.

[@bittercoffee5362]

​@@jjsamuelgunn1136 Necessary reaction to the impact of colonialism and the expansion of the capitalist world order were western powers thought their *nefariously* appropriated (hoarded) bullion would be able to purchase all things under the sun, creating unimaginable social and economic changes at the very grassroots/fabric of society, either directly or via compradors. It's only natural for ethnic groups, communities, societies to protect their own ancestral territory - in a situation were they are not exporting a "world order" but it was/is being imposed upon them. You have got to bare in mind that unlike the west which capitalism and colonialism pulled out of serfdom and destitution, the east was not under serfdom for the most part - their is a strong culture and tradition of generational inheritance (even if not in the individual sense but rather, the communal sense). We've all seen what a facade the "western liberal" world order is. Perpetually confused, bipolar, and violent. People fighting each other like dogs and their greedy politicians pretending they have some kind of "superior culture" while pitting neighbour against neighbour. The liberal world order uprooted so many native middle class (especially rural) here in the Indian subcontinent while the western globalists benefitted enormously.

[@jjsamuelgunn1136]

@@jopesulaiman goes to prove that the religion does not prevent chaos. if anything it causes more chaos. look around in all the countries with the same religion. my point to the OP is don't try to sell us the nonsense about rubbing out ethnic boundaries. it does nothing, in fact history, shows its precursor of more chaos.

[@endworld615]

Sebagai orang melayu aku tak setuju ahli politik seperti pas mengunakan agama untuk kepentingan peribadi untuk undi

[@smilingface2006]

serious? hope you're not fake it's hard to believe. as someone who's not too bind to religion we always thought religion cannot be mixed with politic, any religion. it's a dream for major muslim to think this way.

[@furrycheetah]

​@@smilingface2006he is talking about people abuse their religion for personal gains

[@smilingface2006]

@@furrycheetah talking about PAS using religion to get votes isn't it? i think he really is open minded for a muslim

[@SkyLark-ig2db]

PH guna ideology kafir barat, liberalisme untuk dapat undi, at least PAS ade agama, bukan mcm PH

[@furrycheetah]

@@SkyLark-ig2db Boleh tak senaraikan 30 anak Dajjal ad-Massih Di akhir zaman fitnah Dajjal ad-Massih ini?

[@gokulsarath]

Indonesian Muslims were Hindus and Buddhists in past. Converted to Islam. Although they were not converted by sword as in the case of ancestors of Indian, Pakistani & Bangladeshi Muslims, Indonesian Muslims were earlier proud of their ancestry.

[@VivekKamble-ir4xq]

Such muslim are conservative in nature they lost their identity 😢

[@tivo3720]

Not only in Malaysia and Indonesia. Same in Bangladesh too .... Celebration of Bengali New year is now become Hindu celebration ( a shrik for muslim) . Hindu, Buddhists r continuously getting harrassed online and offline daily by muslim. The traditional dress sarees got replaced by Burkha, hijab . Bcz now tradition bengali dress is haram for them. These were not the cases before. Before there were muslims too.

[@DreyCoja]

If you want to adopt them keep an eye on them, don't spread in ASEAN. we are tired of radicals been exporting here in ph.

[@boyeliza]

But you in philipines goes to middle east for work. How is that for hipocrisy?

[@salinagrandebuteraz5993]

Money..they get money they will zip their mouth..many muslims are rich rich ​@@boyeliza

[@DreyCoja]

@@boyeliza Filipinos are working as good example not being a Ferrofesf... These countries are choosing Filipinos to work in their respective countries around the world cos they are caring, loving and can speak English well. That's why middle east countries adjust the restrictions so that they can hire Filipinos, if not they'll be bared hiring Filipinos.

[@DreyCoja]

@@salinagrandebuteraz5993 do you know that Philippines rank 5th most minerals and largest gas deposit in the world? Philippines is blessed with abundance of natural resources and thousand of white beautiful islands in the world.

[@DreyCoja]

@Broskisnowski people chose it because of the culture, freedom and influence of Spain, it take effect of the daily lives of the people... What the use of force if people insisted and persistence? Same with your country before your rel come, Indeed mslim came here but didn't stay that long cos of Spain stayed for 333 years followed by america.

[@neutroyaz]

While you call it conservatism, others call it being more educated and knowledgeable on religious matters. I look at the Malay/ Muslim kids in Sg who are not only academically weak but also have poor religious upbringing, and I wonder what will become of them. Will they become the burden of Singapore in future? Proper religious upbringing would have kept them in check, to a certain extent. Saying it as I see it.

[@nnnz6018]

Agree. Thank you. As it should, because religion is a way of life. Some people think that religion is just something they introduce themselves as

[@azmijamaluddin6007]

Why nobody talk about American and Israelis Zionist as conservative? They had clearly shared their mission were driven by religion- Christianity and Jewish😂😂....

[@aungmyintoo4635]

This video is about Malaysia and Indonesia, if you want to talk about America or Israelis just create your own video and channel 😑

[@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt]

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." ，❓

[@Surya-fc1vf]

Why are no Muslims protesting the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Muslims in Syria by ISIS and the Syrian president or when the Arab attacked Yemen why was everyone silent 🤔

[@SoalQ]

There is anti-semitism, there is islamophobia. Why is there no anti-Christian?

[@SoalQ]

There are anti-semitism, islamphobia.Why there's no anti-Christian?

[@cermaijeruk2859]

If more conservative means closer islam than i'm all in. Life is short.

[@FriendlyTwo]

Malaysia becoming more pro-PAS means more talents will flow to Singapore.

[@sharvenjr8379]

Lmao

[@shahjeeeeeeeeeeee562]

A person who celebrate Chinese new year or moon light festival will they considered as conservative ?

[@halolalala]

Well, the youths in indonesia is tired from all the conservatives scandals. And the last election is the proof of that. And i believe the conservatives bloc are still able to gather 25% vote in the presidential election is because the president candidate is a respected figure in the education society, and the strongest opponent has a human rights scandal in the past. If not for that the vote will be much lower than that.

[@heppy8604]

People in the comment section seem could not differentiate between being religious and being conservative. Being religious does not mean being conservatif and vice versa. Habibie and Abdurrahman Wahid (Indonesian former presidents), both of them are very religious, spritual AND open minded.

[@harzman1123]

let's learn about Islam to better understand Islam. There are many non-Muslims who read and study the Quran. They will be calmer when they understand Islam.

[@XerrosNightscar]

im a malay who left islam in Singapore . You are talking nonsense

[@anassyazwan]

why western refer as religions is conservative? It is actually 'back to fundamental". We are Fundamentalist

[@pengejarbintang]

It's okay to become conservative. But be careful, you may trapped to extremism if polarization keep you in the bubble.

[@rosasinensis1228]

Indonesia is definitely a liberal country as the main priority is pancasila despite religion obligation

[@ogapadoga2]

Good for Singapore!

[@aqildarwisy-np3ds]

in history, singapore also a muslim dominant island and belong to malay muslim .

[@ogapadoga2]

@@aqildarwisy-np3ds muslims are failures

[@jaxkk1119]

@@aqildarwisy-np3ds Before Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism were the predominant religions in Singapore and Malaysia Also, what is the point of bringing this out? Singapore belongs to Singaporean, that's it

[@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj]

@@aqildarwisy-np3dsnot anymore apparently

[@pustakarileks7404]

@@jaxkk1119 don't be made dude

[@kampongboi18]

The problem with 🇲🇾 is the trajectory of their national identity. Since they cannot out-Nusantara 🇮🇩 in population numbers and historical narratives(after all,Sriwijaya is the predecessor of Malacca) and out-diverse 🇸🇬 in multiracial branding,🇲🇾 have resorted to using Islam as their wild card. The only saving grace 🇲🇾 have right now is the natural resources from Sabah-Sarawak. Otherwise,the late LKY once predicted that a Malay Malaysia will either implode or break up from within.

[@sdm3032]

The signs are visible now....Since 2019 malaysia seems to going backwards..It seems like we might witness end of this nation in 15-20 years.

[@KhalixMR]

You make no sense. Wth Sriwijaya has to do with anything. The Malays of Malaysia has chosen Islam as the religion and do everything possible to fit their culture to Islam. They did this consciously and will move forward as such.

[@kampongboi18]

@@KhalixMR Nope, my statement makes sense. Since when did Malay identity must start with Islam? So before Islam came, your nenek-moyang are not considered Melayu lah?

[@KhalixMR]

@kampongboi18 That's why I said you make no sense. What past is past. Acknowledge the past, learn from it, preserve the memory, and then move on. Be in the now. Now and forever, Malays in Malaysia are Muslims. Why would we need to outnumber Indonesia? The space we have is not comparable. And out-diverse Singapore? The fact of the matter is that Malaysia is more diverse than Singapore, with nearly 200 ethnics. Even our flora and fauna are more diverse. Malaysia has no interest in comparing itself with Singapore in terms of diversity. Like comparing Durian and Duku. It's totally irrelevant.

[@nicoaguswibiantoro5489]

In Indonesia more liberal than Conservative

[@Joekool88]

0:05 sums up stupidity

[@imanhafiz9846]

says you,we perhaps satisfied this way.

[@dirmanbw336]

They should learn from Indonesian election 2017

[@davinxi5926]

Good coverage CNA

[@reihalondres9518]

Indonesia and Malaysia will be the next Iran and Afghanistan mark my word 😊❤🎉

[@Mfkriptoblank-he6lu]

better than little israel

[@nusantarajaya3468]

No Bro..we Indonesian will be Next super power🇮🇩💪 trust me..

[@frog6054]

Better get out of here before it's too late

[@jly5828]

Indonesia will not, Malaysia maybe

[@min88288]

@@Mfkriptoblank-he6lu How? Israel have many Nobel prize winners that gave many contributions to mankind.

[@anassyazwan]

Religon is way of life, what is wrong with it?

[@whetuification]

Without Lies Islam Dies!!!

[@Taliban.The.Hyperpower]

Even with lies, Christianity dies ☺

[@raychabaharuddin3399]

I'm puzzled about the logic Malaysia uses in incorporating Islam so deeply into its daily governance, especially considering the evident issues and criticisms about how well it fits with governmental operations. As someone who is both Muslim and Malaysian, I believe that integrating religion, particularly Islam, into any aspect of the country, whether through policies or everyday life, is not beneficial but rather disastrous.

[@sureshpillay1187]

Corruption is now Halal..

[@raychabaharuddin3399]

@@sureshpillay1187 You bet. They are really good at _halal_ izing things, apparently! 💰

[@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko]

RTM reports on Malaysian issues but CNA reports on Malaysia issues also? No wonder PAP is rarely criticized on Singaporean media.

[@carrotinc]

CNA is not positioned as a Singaporean news outlet, but as a regional news outlet. Because what happens in other countries affects Singapore.

[@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko]

@@carrotinc Still doesn't change the fact that Singaporean media focus more on other countries than its own domestic issues. The PAP is so rarely criticized in the media that RSF ranks Singapore's media in the 129th place out of 180 countries because the news is heavily censored and controlled by the Singaporean government. It's basically the mouthpiece of the PAP disguised as a separate entity

[@jjsamuelgunn1136]

are you malaysian? you mean your news media don't report on what's happening in other countries?

[@MalayanRakyat-ls2cw]

Reports on 3Rs and the afterlife

[@aqildarwisy-np3ds]

​@@carrotinc affects singapore ?? islam also ? hey bruh . do you know about history of singapore ? singapore is belong to malays muslim before many chinese and indian arrived to this region at british time .

[@curious_one1156]

In this world, either we can have sexy influencers, or have strict religious ones. The moderate space does not exist.

[@kayderl]

It’s ok. They can be as conservative or as liberal as they want. As long as they are not spreading extremism ideology and do not infringe on the rights of non-Muslim. Malaysia, in my opinion, is still a secular society.

[@Veloce2000]

The west like USA, Europe & Down Under also hav a fair share of conservative people. However the same term cannot be applied to conservatives in Malaysia. Their conservatives do not judge nor critisise the liberals in any way except for political ideology. Tho they disagree with those liberals, they do not bark, spit or try to illegalise them about sex orientation, attire , nudity, religious views etc. They mind their own business & see these differences as personal. Very different from our local conservatives. 😢And i digress at these local conservatives.

[@blueshirt26]

It's funny how this video and some people in the comments quickly blame the Malay Muslims for "disrupting" harmonious society without even discussing the other part of the problem which is the lack of assimilation (at least linguistic assimilation) and the strong nationalist identities of the country's minority Chinese and Indian population which fiercely wanted to protect its language and culture instead of creating a mixture of cultures alongside Malays to form a more unified Malaysian identity. The Chinese and Indians (not all but many of them do) prefers to identify themselves by their racial group first then be called Malaysian and many younger generations also have a lack of understanding about the history of the people in Malaysia. Today there are many radicalized Chinese and Indians who are getting more bold by their racist views towards Malays and Islam by provoking on social media. This is also a dangerous problem that needs to be solved as well.

[@WasLostButNowAmFound]

Just sweep the truth under the carpet. let's talk about the BumiPutra laws.

[@fitfam2410]

Yes exactly. Racism goes both ways.

[@haoyeleong541]

The conservative have become more conservative while the liberal have become more liberal

[@waikiankhoo8746]

It is ok msia continue going backward! Hehe Singapore will be 200 years ahead of msia very soon.

[@sanr5058]

Can take Sabah and Sarawak please. They’re better off with Sg than west Msia. West Msia has been robbing them both since day 1.

[@nnnz6018]

@@sanr5058go ahead if you wanted to 😂- i want to say that if not for my patriotism spirit