Are Muslim youths in Malaysia and Indonesia becoming more conservative?

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3 ай бұрын

Are Muslim youths in Malaysia and Indonesia getting more conservative? “I’m not interested in concerts. I'm more interested in religious lectures and celebrations of the Prophet's birthday," one Malay Muslim youth told CNA. But while the religious conservatism wave is on the rise in Malaysia, it's ebbing in neighbouring Indonesia. Our deep dive examines why: cna.asia/49fCrd5
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@Darkside-tr3sx
@Darkside-tr3sx 3 ай бұрын
I had a Malaysian friend in university. While I had quite a few muslim peers (from India and central Asia), only he used to follow the 5 times a day prayer rule and go to the prayer room. He even used to check his watch every time. Funnily enough, the Arab students never followed this😂. I found it interesting. By the way, this was in Dubai.
@SuperHutomo
@SuperHutomo 3 ай бұрын
Well, religiousity is a choice
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 3 ай бұрын
malaysia is one of the more developed muslim majority country, and they dont do it just by selling oil, but building their human resources.
@marvelcomiks8078
@marvelcomiks8078 3 ай бұрын
These people are following a faith based on their convenient assumptions and interpretations of the Islamic faith. Thats why it varies greatly from country to country. Those who follow it to a 'T' end up becoming Fundamentalists/Extremists. Yet we cannot stop them from believing in the faith since that would be depriving them of their right to practice their faith. Indonesia is lucky they still have the Pancasila. Malaysia is not so lucky because there was a sinister member from Pakistan during the crafting of the Malaysian Constitution who compelled the rest to insert the mention of the Islamic faith at the eleventh hour. Unless the Federation of Malaysia is dismantled, it is impossible to re-do the Constitution to turn it secular to save the people.
@supersaiyan460
@supersaiyan460 3 ай бұрын
​@@rizkyadiyanto7922 converting to islam is like Flow of money from islamic countries Like USA help Christian Phillipines
@curious_one1156
@curious_one1156 3 ай бұрын
​@@rizkyadiyanto7922your public discourse is still a decade behind the world. You can keep patting yourself on the back.
@tysloo81
@tysloo81 3 ай бұрын
This is normal, when liberal don't work, people tend to be conservative. When conservative doesn't work well, they become more liberal. It is fine as long they are not too extreme until it break the balance between the liberal and conservative.
@user-og9bf7yt2d
@user-og9bf7yt2d 3 ай бұрын
The Islamic Golden Era will tell you that there is no such thing as extremist Muslims and we don't need liberal values to progress.
@amit9023
@amit9023 3 ай бұрын
Conservative means extreme
@amit9023
@amit9023 3 ай бұрын
@@PertubuhanMalaysiaRaya but liberalism is not killing people in name of literalism but conservatism does
@tysloo81
@tysloo81 3 ай бұрын
@@amit9023 liberalism do kill people, see people legalize drug, a lot people die because of drug, are you telling liberalism doesn't kill people, very funny.
@rollinghippo2940
@rollinghippo2940 3 ай бұрын
​@@amit9023go to india if u want liberal
@emierdanish2002
@emierdanish2002 3 ай бұрын
In Sabah & Sarawak, they rejected Islamic conservative like PAS. When I asked my Dusun tribe Muslim or Christian friends from Sabah, they don't like PAS. They assumed PAS as extreme & radical political party.
@mountaindew20
@mountaindew20 3 ай бұрын
why do people always talk about religious stuff and they combine it with politics/pas blah blah.. no one gives a f about pas lol.. yes we are muslims but we not kelantanese.. typical singaporean media..
@megatonhammer4723
@megatonhammer4723 3 ай бұрын
@@mountaindew20 becoz Islam is a political religion. You think the colonists were bad? Islam seeks to dominate the earth by the sword.
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla 3 ай бұрын
Sarawak should gain independence from Malaysia
@anakinskywalker1434
@anakinskywalker1434 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha funny rhetoric statement. PAS themselves even have non Muslim supporting club!!! Go get the right facts, not fiction chit chat among the atheist folks
@emierdanish2002
@emierdanish2002 3 ай бұрын
@@anakinskywalker1434 PAS dapat support Non-Muslim? Bukan menangpun PDM-PDM majoriti Cina. Paling corot dalam kalangan sokongan para pengundi Cina & India & disokong oleh hanya kaum tertentu.
@pakngah3715
@pakngah3715 3 ай бұрын
Comparing religio-politically Peninsular Malaysia and Indonesia is like comparing apples with oranges. However , comparing Sabah and Sarawak with Indonesia from this religio-political aspect is aples vs apples.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean? I found Sarawak being very liberal, meaning everyone is treated with kindness, regardless who you are. No obvious leaning to any side. And I enjoyed that a lot. All the smiles I got, the nice conversations ... I will go back.
@markdisney260
@markdisney260 3 ай бұрын
@@krollpeter Yes, that's what he meant. Malays in the peninsular are force fed religion from a very young age and government schools prioritise religion over everything else. The Indonesians are much more open and liberal (like in East Malaysia).
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 3 ай бұрын
@@markdisney260 Thank you Mark! My personal view is this: God - any god - wants just one thing from us: We should be good people! He will judge us on exactly this, if we were good, not what brand label we carry.
@ANEEAMA
@ANEEAMA 3 ай бұрын
@markdisney, Malays are practicing Islam for thousands of years . Malaysian Muslims are very tolerant Muslims as religion came in Malaysia through trade. Even before Europeans invade Malaysia , Malay Muslims were tolerant to Chinese and Indians. Yes, the government has to restrict if some fanatics try to interpret Islam for their benefits. Islam is moderation( the prophet advised moderation). Restrict fanatics , however continue Islam in Malaysia as it was centuries.
@alfian3788
@alfian3788 3 ай бұрын
​@krollpeter lol .Muslim in sarawak is becoming Conservative just like their brethren in malaya. Many are pro malaya too and anti cessation because to them without malaya there's no special privilege of being a Muslim. Till this day no religious freedom as in leaving Islam exist in sarawak
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 3 ай бұрын
The issue is mixing religion with politics.
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُوْنَ الْكٰفِرِيْنَ اَوْلِيَآءَ مِنْ دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِيْنَ ۚ وَمَنْ يَّفْعَلْ ذٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّٰهِ فِيْ شَيْءٍ اِلَّاۤ اَنْ تَتَّقُوْا مِنْهُمْ تُقٰٮةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّٰهُ نَفْسَهٗ ۗ وَاِ لَى اللّٰهِ الْمَصِيْرُ "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."
@Halaqa
@Halaqa 3 ай бұрын
The issue is secular humanism. Watch America drop in the next 20 years.
@DrMox-ny8qs
@DrMox-ny8qs 3 ай бұрын
That's because your religion is based on idols.
@hadifjamalluddin3319
@hadifjamalluddin3319 3 ай бұрын
For Muslims, began with Prophet Muhammad & we have a reason.
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 3 ай бұрын
@DrMox-ny8qs Buddha was much older than your prophet accept that. Idols or no idols it is our business not yours. We hv our reason. I hv no comment about hinduism.
@zondor8123
@zondor8123 3 ай бұрын
TLDR : Malaysia : yes they are Indonesia : no, their millenials and Gen Z are driving away from conservative
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." ?
@nurulainmohdkhalid360
@nurulainmohdkhalid360 3 ай бұрын
Not all Indonesians endorse neoliberalism 😏
@Jakarta48fans
@Jakarta48fans 3 ай бұрын
@@nurulainmohdkhalid360not all but majority
@afaridpirmansyah7867
@afaridpirmansyah7867 3 ай бұрын
as Indonesian and moderate muslim, i find that at least in my life environment i don't see people change to be conservative and most of them are moderat some are even change to liberal and only tiny percentage who are conservative ( only one people i know who regularly attend Kajian and follow sharia strictly).
@ANEEAMA
@ANEEAMA 3 ай бұрын
Because Indonesia is 89% of Muslims and they forcefully assimilated the Chinese. Malaysia does not want to become another Palestine. Imagine, in the UK, whites are 80%, and they still cry migration.
@SuperHutomo
@SuperHutomo 3 ай бұрын
The sign of growing conservatism is very easy, look at the old photos of our parents or people before year 2000. I always find thay no woman wearing hijab those time. Now almost all muslim woman i see wear hijab. It is in Indonesia though.
@mugiwaragang
@mugiwaragang 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂..thats not conservativism..this is not america..thats just show more and more woman concern about hukum fiqh..back in the days they were wearing tudung too..but not as today..today so many style so many choice..of you talking about p ramlee movie..dont compare la..they were celebs..even today not all malay celebs wear hijab/tudung today..theres a lot of pictures in 1920s where woman wear kain batik and selendang to cover their hair
@Jim_Colbert
@Jim_Colbert 3 ай бұрын
Aku dulunya islam yg cukup taat...dulu bahkan saat rusuh di ambon pẽrnah berpikir berangkat kê sana...saat itu aku baru lulus sma .. Tapi setelah itu..banyak serangan teroris dí indo...bom malam natal..bom bali..jw marriot ..sejak saat itu aku mulai ragu pada islam..pikir2 apa Ya bener harus sampai seperti ini..? Sekarang mah udah gak peduli lagi ama agama..sholat juga gak pernah..bisa dikatakan udah keluar dari islam.. Tapi aku masih merayakan lebaran...pulang kampung ..silaturahmi...kuanggap saja sebagai tradisi...
@pengikutsetia8424
@pengikutsetia8424 3 ай бұрын
Itu namanya jilbabisasi
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." ❓
@intriguingfacts5434
@intriguingfacts5434 3 ай бұрын
@@Jim_Colbert Terorisme dalam Islam itu hal yang relatif baru....baru muncul setelah perang dingin selesai, terutama era Bush jr. Intinya, terorisme itu menguntungkan barat secara politik. Bahkan secara historis kristen jauh lebih kejam. Jangan mudah termakan isu media, lihat secara lebih luas secara historis.
@dl7311
@dl7311 3 ай бұрын
Malaysia is becoming more conservative and religious yes.
@xcjsmith5310
@xcjsmith5310 3 ай бұрын
As a 31 y/o youth, guess, I will either survive in conservative country and watch it go down the drain.
@MonnyMonny-rk4pu
@MonnyMonny-rk4pu 3 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah everyone should practice their religion because religion make you better person
@dl7311
@dl7311 3 ай бұрын
@@MonnyMonny-rk4pu religion is a personal belief but many people like to take it to the extreme though
@VladVlad-ul1io
@VladVlad-ul1io 2 ай бұрын
@@xcjsmith5310 why?
@cexcaffeineaddict
@cexcaffeineaddict 2 ай бұрын
​@@MonnyMonny-rk4pu tell me how old is aisyah
@waimunyan7007
@waimunyan7007 3 ай бұрын
And they want Taylor Swift to perform in Malaysia????? Who are they kidding!?!??
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 3 ай бұрын
Nobody said that in Malaysia. Singapore is a Chinese society pretending to be Western. All the Chinese conservative values are gone in Singapore and replaced with liberalization and loose morality like in the West
@djibicisse
@djibicisse 3 ай бұрын
To be honest kpop is worse
@tenwritersscreen5511
@tenwritersscreen5511 3 ай бұрын
Only people who wish to bring bad immoral influence wants her. There is always bad guys in any country. Anyway good she is not performing.
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." ?
@user-og9bf7yt2d
@user-og9bf7yt2d 3 ай бұрын
Those are the atas people who are too rich with nothing better to do other than emulating the West just like the bootlickers back in British Colonial Era. The majority in general rather not have the concert.
@megatron6393
@megatron6393 3 ай бұрын
Always remember this motto in Malaysia. Agama, Bangsa dan Negara. Religion comes first, Race is second, Country is last. So, it is okay for country to go down the drain, okay for race to go down the drain but religion must always be protected.
@zhengjs3463
@zhengjs3463 3 ай бұрын
what is religion? what is the purpose of having religion?
@ssuwandi3240
@ssuwandi3240 3 ай бұрын
Black Rock is basically checking on the culture shift. Possibly to get politicized like ESG climates and Government social agenda for corporations. Imagine one American private company is allowed to audit your religious social Agenda. Pls don't get too flattered that they really have a genuine interest about a religion. Just to push their money goes the miles for their investors.. It's up to you how far you would allow these foreigners to dictate your culture. Be careful with your wishes
@bittercoffee5362
@bittercoffee5362 3 ай бұрын
Ethnic identity (nasl) is a RIGHT in the Sharia - one of the 5 muqasids. Ethnic groups are formed of inter-marrying clan units (i.e. families); what good is a nation without its families?! Nobody wants to end up like whichever perpetually confused country you come from. Any body who claims to be "preserving a nation" WITHOUT preserving ethical and moral code derived from revelation that comes from God (i.e. Islam, deen, religion) or, secondarily, without preserving familial/ethnic identity (nasl) and the rights associated with it, - that person is a FRAUD.
@bittercoffee5362
@bittercoffee5362 3 ай бұрын
@@zhengjs3463 Correct worship (engrained in the human psyche); common ethical and moral code; common rituals for societal events. Centrality on the one who is ultimately just and moral.
@zhengjs3463
@zhengjs3463 3 ай бұрын
individually do they follow God commandment fully and never sin?
@tuanlam1314
@tuanlam1314 3 ай бұрын
identity politics become so entrenched in malaysia...
@StarrySunnie
@StarrySunnie 3 ай бұрын
May Indonesia be multicultural country as it has existed with different races since long time ago, and was started as Non-Muslim during Indonesia Kingdom.
@cosmicreisender
@cosmicreisender 3 ай бұрын
I am an Indonesian and I am a high school teacher. I don't think so, what i've seen, Indonesian youth nowadays are actually becoming more liberal than before, they are increasingly open about not having a religion, and their thoughts are becoming more free. Social media in Indonesia does not portray the true Indonesia. For example, in Indonesian news and social media, many people show strong support for Palestine, but the reality is that the majority of people in Indonesia do not care about them and even tend to dislike the Middle East.
@joehairul7520
@joehairul7520 3 ай бұрын
Siapa bilang. Di tanah pasundan mah tetap, mayoritas adalah pemeluk islam yang taat..
@cosmicreisender
@cosmicreisender 3 ай бұрын
@@joehairul7520 Di lingkungan pergaulan anda mungkin iya, tapi cobalah lihat kenyataan di luar sana. Saya bicara di dunia nyata, di kehidupan sehari-hari, bukan di sosial media. Kenyataannya memang begitu, saudara. Coba perhatikan dengan objektif, lebih banyak mana orang pergi ke mall dan ke masjid saat shalat Jum'at? Lebih banyak mana, orang taat beribadah dan sex bebas? Lebih banyak mana orang yang sepemikiran dengan anda dan yang tidak? Sekali saja lihat di jalan, lebih banyak mana perempuan berpakaian muslim sungguhan dan perempuan berpakaian sexy (meskipun dia berjilbab)? Berapa banyak orang yang shalat dan tidak?
@jordannathanael4884
@jordannathanael4884 3 ай бұрын
​@@cosmicreisender emang secara umum anak muda itu lebih liberal dibandingkan dengan generasi2 tuanya, tapi paham radikal juga masih berkembang bahkan dilingkungan kampus sekalipun mereka itu bisa dianggap berpendidikan diatas rata2. tapi kenapa lu bandingin conservative itu taat beribadah, liberal malah sex bebas, lawak banget. bebas berekspresi bukan berarti sex bebas, orang yang ga mau sex sama sekali juga liberal, orang yang ga mau punya anak sama sekali sama sekali juga liberal, orang yang ga mau nikah sama sekali juga liberal. contohnya ya gua. terus perbandingan macam apa ngebandingin lebih banyak mana orang ke masjid atau ke mall, padahal di mall juga ada masjid, ga apple to apple perbandingannya, kapasitas mall umumnya itu ribuan bahkan puluhan ribu orang dibandingin masjid yang cuman ratusan sampai ribuan, banyak juga mall mall yang bangkrut karna udah bisa beli online. kapasitas, jumlah, sama kepentingannya aja beda jauh sama masjid. guru kok begini pola pikirnya
@cosmicreisender
@cosmicreisender 3 ай бұрын
@@jordannathanael4884 Itu adalah perbandingan yang jelas. Dalam konteks shalat Jum'at, membandingkan orang ke mall dan masjid di lingkungan muslim itu perbandingan yang tepat. Dari perbandingan itu akan terlihat jelas apakah orang masih mau shalat Jum'at apa tidak, kenyataannya semakin hari masjid semakin sepi. Saya sama sekali tidak mengatakan liberalis adalah pelaku sex bebas, tapi semakin maraknya sex bebas di kalangan muda, bahkan beberapa kasus pada anak di bawah umum, menunjukkan kelau generasi muda Indonesia tidak mengarah ke "lebih beragama". Paham radikal dan gerakan konservatif memang masih ada dan terus berjalan di lingkungan muda, tapi sesuatu yang sebaliknya justru berkembang lebih pesat dan mayoritas bergerak ke arah itu.
@newbabies923
@newbabies923 3 ай бұрын
​@@cosmicreisendermungkin itu lingkungan elu yg rata2 nonis, lu jga paling kristen kan😂
@agusfirmansyah35
@agusfirmansyah35 3 ай бұрын
As indonesian i dont trust islamic party, but i choose leader with good islamic behavior
@fabiyafabiya8091
@fabiyafabiya8091 23 күн бұрын
Yes that's right thing to do
@AlCothyra
@AlCothyra 5 күн бұрын
radical islam is a snake and liberal islam is the grass that hides the snake.
@bartocastro3672
@bartocastro3672 3 ай бұрын
In Malaysia, the growth of private religious and tahfiz school are quite sporadic in the last decade. This generation are the key group of the young eligible voters now. I think that's the major factor.
@ibundanur7534
@ibundanur7534 3 ай бұрын
So.. What the problem? Tahfiz was private school, not like SJKC chinese school government support. We pay all cost for our children.
@benzpinto
@benzpinto 3 ай бұрын
@@ibundanur7534since there is no standardization and regulation, how do u know a tahfiz is not teaching something radical? what if one of the teacher is from afganistan and teaching extremism?
@pustakarileks7404
@pustakarileks7404 3 ай бұрын
Do you know the purpose of this? This is just economic ecosystem
@bestbeast74
@bestbeast74 3 ай бұрын
​@@benzpintomost of the teachers are Malaysian..only focusing on teaching of Correct way of reading Quranic verses and memorizing it...
@missmonday8027
@missmonday8027 3 ай бұрын
Malaysia also became more sensitive and destroyed entertainment industry and cultures. More parents send their children to tahfiz which the course is not helpful to the country's development. People always focused on "free hair women" as serious issue compared to economy and corruption. They used to be hero on Rohingya's issue and invited them to this country as muslim brotherhood, but now they regret about it. Soon we will end up like Pakistan and Bangladesh
@wishfultee
@wishfultee 3 ай бұрын
Biased. You can't profile 2 very diverse populations with such tiny samples. The so-called "secular" Indonesians interviewed are no different from a huge percentage of Malaysian youths, and so many Indonesians are similar to the "religious" Malaysians portrayed too. There is a wide spectre of muslim youths in both countries, they're not all the same. While muslims on average are more religious these days in BOTH countries, much of the increased vote shares for PAS can be attributed to dissatisfaction for UMNO and distrust for Pakatan. It'd be naive to think that PAS won more seats this time mainly because people have become more religious. Not so simple.
@029_rafeehidayat3
@029_rafeehidayat3 3 ай бұрын
I’m Indonesian we are becoming less conservative, especially among the young. Terror attacks and violent Islamist political parties made us rethink our stance on religion. It’s best not to involve Islam in politics, FPI was banned 3 years ago and it helped.
@wishfultee
@wishfultee 3 ай бұрын
@@029_rafeehidayat3 Glad to hear how Indonesia has progressed positively after going through the darker days! I guess Malaysians are still figuring things out, so there's a lot of noise. When you say Indonesians are becoming less conservative, how would you describe that? Are people more accepting of minorities? Or?
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
@029_rafeehidayat3
@029_rafeehidayat3 3 ай бұрын
@@wishfultee we were always accepting towards minorities, it’s been that way since a long time ago I should say. Indonesia has been pushing for a long time towards national identity instead of certain religious groups. We’re just really too busy with modernizing and riding the wave of infrastructure development and the current nickel boom. That we really couldn’t give a damn about religious fundamentalism. We’re just fed up being called poor country Malaysia needs to get rid of their current constitution that gives Malay Muslims privilege over other races. I’d they want to have more national unity.
@029_rafeehidayat3
@029_rafeehidayat3 3 ай бұрын
I was thought to think that I’m Indonesian first then my ethnic and religious background. Talk to any chinese indonesian and they will say that I’m indonesian rather than their ethnic background. Most people don’t know their lineage here and race mixing is very common. Still needs some work on accepting sexual minorities tho. It’s not banned in our constitution but it hasn’t been recognized also
@bobbypurp5868
@bobbypurp5868 3 ай бұрын
Short answer yes Long answer no but as a singaporean, we prefer malaysia as retirement and vacation destination as its offers more tranquility than liberal indonesia. In indonesia, even football is glorified higher than religion for some people.
@xiraoit9342
@xiraoit9342 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and Bali Bombing Guru from Malaysia too (Noordin M Top)
@kakablee
@kakablee 2 ай бұрын
Well said
@Aksarallah
@Aksarallah 16 күн бұрын
There will always be community of people who glorify this temporary worlds pleasures
@Armz69
@Armz69 3 ай бұрын
“If i vote religious parties, me too gonna be religious” It is more like a compensatory mechanism, whether they are truly all that or not is up for debate. Classic case of social identity crisis and the politicians are really good at capitalizing on that.
@min88288
@min88288 3 ай бұрын
Indonesian are slightly better, at least they have religion freedom, unlike Malaysian majority.
@faizaazambinzuki2600
@faizaazambinzuki2600 3 ай бұрын
I don't think so. Are the non-Muslims being oppressed in Malaysia?
@fairviewib
@fairviewib 3 ай бұрын
@faizaazambinzuki2600 oppression not really. But inequality is there.
@beach4041
@beach4041 3 ай бұрын
​@@fairviewibwhy so?
@sayapunbumiputera367
@sayapunbumiputera367 3 ай бұрын
​@@beach4041u living under a tempurung ? U don't know which golongan gets goodies and a tongkat ? Or u buat - buat Tak tahu ?
@min88288
@min88288 3 ай бұрын
@@faizaazambinzuki2600 Try search Sukmawati Sukarnoputri, the daughter of Sukarno, already converted from Islam to Hinduism. Imagine this happened in neighboring country MY, may see the uproar and death threat from certain people.
@eu.p.5807
@eu.p.5807 3 ай бұрын
I have met a few ex muslim Malays from Malaysia and Indonesia, and they are tired of religion being forced onto them. Many are hiding their ex-muslim identity, even though they still practiced their religious rituals to avoid suspicion from their community.
@khairiyusoff5040
@khairiyusoff5040 3 ай бұрын
Why don't they fear Allah?
@eu.p.5807
@eu.p.5807 3 ай бұрын
@@khairiyusoff5040 One told me that he has seen the community hypocrisy and he finds no meaning to be part of the community. Too much lies, disappointment and selfishness comes from the most religious.
@burgundian_system
@burgundian_system 3 ай бұрын
@@eu.p.5807 nah blud aipac payed them to leave islam
@missmonday8027
@missmonday8027 3 ай бұрын
It's sad, they keep reminding us that "we women are majority in hell"..and we are being forced to wear tudung masam and selekeh. We can't angry with cheating husband because it's a religious thing 😢
@benzpinto
@benzpinto 3 ай бұрын
@@missmonday8027 lol. tudung masam n selekeh. some guys do like tudung masam n selekeh.. 😉
@17meisha
@17meisha 2 ай бұрын
Menurut saya indonesia memang lebih liberal, anak2 muda lebih menganut surat al-kafirun. Dimana apapun agama orang lain yg penting kita main bareng, dan menurut saya itu bagus berarti toleransi indonesia semakin tinggi. Itu salah satu alasan kenapa agama di indonesia sudah tidak bisa lagi dipolitisasi. Menurut saya liberal atau konservatif tidak masalah karena tidak ada jaminan kalo orang konservatif lebih beragama/berilmu dari orang2 liberal. Hanya Allah yg tahu isi hati orang lain. Lagian agama itu bukan ajang balapan, dan yang bisa memberi hidayah itu Tuhan. Jadi kenapa harus takut? Negara sekuler dan liberal terbesar di dunia sekelas Amerika saja penganut agama islamnya semakin bertambah. Sekali lagi agama itu urusan manusia dan Allah. Tapi sebagai orangtua, saya hanya mengajarkan batas rendah dan atas sebagai muslim konservatif dan liberal. Jadi anak saya tidak akan terlalu konservatif hingga menjadi radikal, dan tidak terlalu liberal hingga ia menjadi sesat.
@DrMox-ny8qs
@DrMox-ny8qs 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps Singapore needs to be reminded of its history.
@amjanwaters6142
@amjanwaters6142 3 ай бұрын
What is the scope of conservatism in this context? Is CNA using a western minded definition of conservatism? These two countries were never liberal in the first place.
@asyariazhar3327
@asyariazhar3327 3 ай бұрын
My thought exactly
@crispusallen3865
@crispusallen3865 3 ай бұрын
Creating friction is cna's forte
@teckza3528
@teckza3528 3 ай бұрын
Because Singapore is western allies so thats why their media same like Western media
@yukihanna6519
@yukihanna6519 3 ай бұрын
Duh... BFF serail like this one
@iPontianakz
@iPontianakz Ай бұрын
I don't know about Malaysia, but in Indonesia many young people are becoming irreligious.
@loethariou220
@loethariou220 Ай бұрын
It is really sad to be honest
@iPontianakz
@iPontianakz Ай бұрын
@@loethariou220 cultural shift, and I think that's a good thing
@evaruv2050
@evaruv2050 Ай бұрын
@@loethariou220 well in the early 2000s our people who addopted with western culture even got swipe away then the conservatiev trying to be dominant, thank god covid happened it literaly wokes our generation to become more liberal
@muhammadhanif4113
@muhammadhanif4113 3 ай бұрын
Indonesia already facing the radicalism since early days of independence,religious radicalism or communist radicalism we've been through of it,we more mature than malaysian how to select information from scholars,politicians or religious figures.
@SuperHutomo
@SuperHutomo 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, the radicalism had always given Dutch Colonialist headache due to stubborn Terrorists who refused to submit to Dutch during military aggretion.
@bittercoffee5362
@bittercoffee5362 3 ай бұрын
That was not organic; that was manufactured. The USA carefully removed the actual genuinely ethical/moral leader who followed the principles of Islam with a fake Islamist who (ironically, against the basic tenants of Islam) was supposedly a Jinn conjourer. Unlike US-backed-(fake)-"Islamist" Suharto, Sukarno was an ethical and moral person who tried to create a just economy and just social policies. Indonesia would've looked very different had he not been deposed of by the West. America's eyes were on Indonesia's gold deposits, and they certainly did not want a Gold-backed Indonesian currency as it would've reversed an important aspect of colonialism.
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." ,❔
@user-jh5eu2dr3r
@user-jh5eu2dr3r 3 ай бұрын
We are just slightly better Tbh. But the radicalist posing a threat for the existence of Indonesia thats Why I chose Prabowo for the job. Not Anies. If Anies won R.I.P Minority.
@mrroazam3977
@mrroazam3977 3 ай бұрын
Yeah who cares about your opinion. Indonesia is Indonesia, Malaysia is Malaysia. Mind your own country.
@BronAsreal
@BronAsreal 2 ай бұрын
Indonesia have seen what excessive religionism has affected their political lives that they are no longer seen more conservative and become towards liberal. Malaysia on the other hand, is still relatively new on grasping how excessive religionism will affect their political lives. Both countries lived in the safe religious bubble sphere. The difference: Indonesia burst first and now is trying to create a new ideological or political safe sphere, that they do not want to rely on religion anymore.
@ftselalu
@ftselalu 3 ай бұрын
what about muslim youth in singapore ?
@bandwidth82
@bandwidth82 3 ай бұрын
What is CNA motives for making this clip with this subject?
@WasLostButNowAmFound
@WasLostButNowAmFound 3 ай бұрын
What is the Objective of the current King of Malaysia when he told the Malays who want to be Arabs to go live in the Middle East Desert?
@demonzabuza2225
@demonzabuza2225 3 ай бұрын
What do you expect from Singapork aka Israel Asean media?
@mountaindew20
@mountaindew20 3 ай бұрын
@@WasLostButNowAmFoundwho ? which ? when ?
@WasLostButNowAmFound
@WasLostButNowAmFound 3 ай бұрын
@@mountaindew20 JOHOR BARU (The Star/Asia News Network) - The Sultan of Johor has called on Malays not to discard their unique culture, saying he was disturbed that some people want to stop Muslims from practising the traditional salam greeting. Sultan Ibrahim Ibni Almarhum Sultan Iskandar said he was sticking to "my customs and traditions as a Malay because I'm born Malay". "If there are some of you who wish to be an Arab and practise Arab culture, and do not wish to follow our Malay customs and traditions, that is up to you. "I also welcome you to live in Saudi Arabia. "That is your right but I believe there are Malays who are proud of the Malay culture. At least I am real and not a hypocrite and the people of Johor know who their ruler is," he said. He said, for example, he preferred to use terms like Hari Raya instead of Eid al-Fitr, or buka puasa instead of iftar. "I have been using these Malay terms since I was a child and speaking to my late father for the past 50 years.
@WasLostButNowAmFound
@WasLostButNowAmFound 3 ай бұрын
@@mountaindew20 alamak who? what? when? Mahathir teach you your English?
@gundam4596
@gundam4596 3 ай бұрын
This is how the westerner put emphasize their idea into our local mindset. They put a narrative that if people tend to be more into religious value then they considered conservative, and it is one step to say it will become extremist and finally become terrorist. They think we the eastern people are stupid and easy to be poison by their words. The reality is that it shows how progress of nation would never left the religion value. The westerner always thought if they make a nation more progresive, they wil become more loose of their faith because they think science oppose to religion teachings. It just show how they got it wrong, in malaysia, the more people espcially muslim, when they learn more, become progresive, become more richer, they tend to be more good muslim which westerner think it is conservative. This is all because of knowledge, education, because islam asked it follower to seek knowledge, to learn about the world and afterworld, so when we learn more then we realise why Allah SWT send us to earth, and living in this world is just a small part/journey whereby the goal is the akhirah....
@ERMIJAE333
@ERMIJAE333 3 ай бұрын
We should pinned this comment so that others who are ignorance can see this. Oddly enough, what's the purpose of this video anyway? 💁‍♀️
@D0x1511af
@D0x1511af 3 ай бұрын
nah religion an ideology..the sheer ignorance in your statement is ubiquitous ...crtitical thinking skeptism are the main root of civilized and moral complex society ....even science disperse the existence of omnipotent being exist ...lolz ...go read and understand the Richard Dawkins book The God Delusion Carl Sagan on God existence ....
@corniel657
@corniel657 3 ай бұрын
This
@lionelproctor82
@lionelproctor82 3 ай бұрын
It's not a mere narrative, but a fact. In Malaysia, the most Islamic states like Kelantan and Terengganu are not only socially backward but also economically backward.
@aznanzuhidsaidin3512
@aznanzuhidsaidin3512 3 ай бұрын
CNA is from singapore, not west, but I totally agree with you
@shaqisumari304
@shaqisumari304 3 ай бұрын
Thats apparently truth, they had become so easily radicalised, it has become hinderance towards more harmonious societies
@mugiwaragang
@mugiwaragang 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 ...all side are the same..dap,pas,pkr,umno..same everyone just manipulate rakyat emotions and fear ...dont pretend the chinese dont play sentiment..they scare their own by saying if muslim pas rule all cina tak bole hidup
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
@nurulainmohdkhalid360
@nurulainmohdkhalid360 3 ай бұрын
Not really..you're just stereotyping 😏
@84yyds81
@84yyds81 3 ай бұрын
​@@mugiwaragang yes, it is happening, they banned the non's right in their states, and claim that it is not their culture, and they wanted to implement it to all the states if they take over. Famous quote: When they are in the minority they are very concerned with minority rights, when they are in the majority there are no minority rights
@mrj475
@mrj475 3 ай бұрын
BS..
@d15z1sux
@d15z1sux 3 ай бұрын
It's always dangerous when you have people who listen word for word from figures who are out of touch with the rest of society. When religion is placed as a priority over all else in turn you will have a country which will struggle in all other aspects. Economics, health, education when all these are already not the best and you decide to make religion a priority over these the country will take a few steps backwards.
@Yam_Yam305
@Yam_Yam305 3 ай бұрын
not a fact.. it's your opinion
@d15z1sux
@d15z1sux 3 ай бұрын
@@Yam_Yam305 and that is your opinion, but you can look through history as history is the greatest teacher.
@Yam_Yam305
@Yam_Yam305 3 ай бұрын
@@d15z1sux give me an example of being religion being dangerous in the political specturm except the last 2 centuries in regards to when Islamic rules are being governed in a region there were several factors as well. Addionally, I can give you instances when Islamic laws were lagislated as the governing body but not only the empire flourished on a economic sphere but also on technological advancement such as mid-umayyads, abbasids, mamluks, ottomans and I can go on.
@d15z1sux
@d15z1sux 3 ай бұрын
@@Yam_Yam305 I mean the last two centuries is entirely relevant, in saying that there's great Islamic based empires that have been around in the past. Nowadays though they are fighting to force a different brand of Islam onto others through means of violence.
@Yam_Yam305
@Yam_Yam305 3 ай бұрын
@@d15z1sux sure, we strongly condemn such groups if it doesen't allign with true Islamic ethics such as ISIS and other zealotical so called "islamic" groups or countries.. majority of muslim countries nowadays are not even implementing all the islamic laws in the political spectrum diluting with liberal and democratic values. Not to mention that majority of muslim world got colonoized by the eurpoeans in the last 2 centuries, hence, you percieve our impoverished state. The reason i said *except* last century because those terrorist groups are not the absolute face of Islam just as the crusades were not the true face of Christanity. In 90% of Muslim history we were the super power of the world or one of the superpowers of the world. Remember when a country or empire is a world leading power, it's values which it abides by will also influence the whole globe And pls for god's sake, don't take minute percentage of Islamic history and inferring this is what religion does to politics and social welfare while overlooking our trimpuhs.
@ibrahimalli2474
@ibrahimalli2474 3 ай бұрын
Muslims in Malaysia are getting more conservative which is a norm nowadays. Why it is a big issue? I guess due to the facts that these conservatives are professional and well verse in English. It won't be a big fuss if these conservatives are illiterate and very poor.
@dydactic1112
@dydactic1112 3 ай бұрын
True, I know some educated professionals who studied abroad but can memorise the Quran. They are doctors and engineers.
@amanokinji6220
@amanokinji6220 23 күн бұрын
I dunno why CNA a Singaporean media outlet so interested to highlight this to the world, maybe their genocider-friend asking for help, Malaysia netizens is giving us trouble here. "Hey CNA, we don't wanna have 200 million Muslims here stay true to their religion, please help us painted the image of conservative=extremist" said that 1 genocider in middle east.
@jiep5327
@jiep5327 16 күн бұрын
They don't even dare to criticize their partner...even when their partner involve in genocide...stop taking any advice from this hypocrite people...just a waste of time...
@novandita9071
@novandita9071 3 ай бұрын
saya indonesia dan saya memandang islam paling utama jika islam tegak toleransi akan datang juga buktinya ada pada kisah riyanto banser natal islam is best way of life
@moh6410
@moh6410 Ай бұрын
riyanto loved jesus
@novandita9071
@novandita9071 Ай бұрын
@@moh6410 riyanto is a muslim, we muslim love jesus as prophet not as god, god is only 1 not 3 in 1, riyanto is a muslim not christian, buta still he did what he did for Allah
@moh6410
@moh6410 Ай бұрын
@@novandita9071 hindus and buddhism once dominated indonesia, due to hindus/buddhism, islam was allowed to enter indonesia. hence hindus/buddhsm are more tolerance.
@novandita9071
@novandita9071 Ай бұрын
@@moh6410 hindus tolerance only in Indonesia, not the hindus but the indonesian people, same like budhis, look at india how many muslim die there? Look at rohingya in myanmar, how many monk that killed muslim there, we indonesia are friendly yes, and with islam the tolerence sky rocket, thats why we have riyanto, the mix between our people and islam
@YaBegitulah1
@YaBegitulah1 3 ай бұрын
Indonesia tends to be moderate, meaning that it is in the middle between Progressive and Conservative, it is more balanced than choosing far left or far right, moderate can take the progressive side and the conservative side.
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 3 ай бұрын
As an Indonesian, i 100% agree
@healtyme2194
@healtyme2194 2 ай бұрын
Diindo banyak aliran sesat
@humdedum723
@humdedum723 2 ай бұрын
I think Indonesia is more progressive than conservative
@muhammadhisyamimaduddin2219
@muhammadhisyamimaduddin2219 3 ай бұрын
As an Indonesian, I don't think so. I grew up having conservative parents, also most of my friends are the same, somehow all of us don't deliberately ended up as conservative. In fact, we're trying not to be one.
@musjo3405
@musjo3405 2 ай бұрын
I'm one of those youths...I do consider myself more religious than my mom's generation, although my mom's generation became more religious as they grew older. Most of us young Malaysians are practicing more of the religion compared to before because we do not want to be like those generations before us who used to wear skimpy clothing, drink alcohol, not praying. Previous generations I observe were more laid back in religion, but there were so many social problems (drunk, divorce, domestic violence because of alcohol and gambling). My generation are are more conscious of religion and we try to follow as much as we can. I don't see it as a bad thing because it makes us less 'wild' and because we are more 'God Fearing', most of us don't dare do bad things.
@loethariou220
@loethariou220 Ай бұрын
This is not the same case for us indonesian youths as more and more of our youths becoming irreligious during their teenage years, but for me religion is the most important thing in my life
@aisukururimu7515
@aisukururimu7515 2 ай бұрын
Indonesia as far as I know, is becoming more and more secular as time passes on. I wouldn't say we're leaving our Indonesian roots at all yet, lots of Indonesian youths are still expressing their interest in local cultures, history and heritages, and you can clearly see it in the games they made like Dreadout or A Space for the Unbound, we just wanted to leave our own mark in said heritage to put it into perspective From what I'm seeing, this happens not only to the Islamic community within Indonesia, but to the entire population as a whole. Not all young Indonesian Muslims have a positive opinion on Arab countries just like how not all young Indonesian Christians have a positive opinion on Israel, even thought their parents are most likely be inclined to side with those countries
@whippedcreamandbergamot5919
@whippedcreamandbergamot5919 2 ай бұрын
As a youth in Indonesia who study in the Western country. I'd say I prefer to be conservative, to follow the instruction of my religion, if it brings peace to my soul (and it does) rather than living in neo-lib people.
@xiraoit9342
@xiraoit9342 2 ай бұрын
No shut up!
@NathanAEnver
@NathanAEnver 3 ай бұрын
This observation of Indonesia is a bit off, Indonesian youth are also increasingly conservative but in different ways, while the muslim youths of Malaysia are socially more activist in their conservatism, and tend to more radicalized, meaning they would likely to actively oppose unislamic behavior whenever they can, Muslims youth in Indonesia are(at least most of them, especially in java island) keeping it for themselves, they pray more(5times a day), muslimah(female muslim) wearing hijab more, halal everything, changing "unislamic" cultural practices to suit the sharia, etc. But they tend to follow and support Islamic clerics, ullema, and ustadz that are easy-going, modern-minded, tolerant and moderate, they also avoid any contents that uses Islam as political tools, even I, an atheist(former muslim/a murtad) is much more comfortable hanging out with my religious friends(they rarely skip 5times prayers), rather than my family, because they never talk about religion, unlike the older generation, they more mindful and sensitive about that subject. Also, unlike malaysia where muslim is stereotypically "malay", in Indonesia that's not the case, so the muslim can't simply "unite under 1way or sentiment" A and B might be Muslim, but they eat different foods for iftar and shahoor, A maybe eat sweeter foods, B maybe eat spicier foods, and that's just food, how about the mindset? It's simple, Indonesian youth are Religiously Conservative, Socially moderate-liberal. And Indonesia also have larger population so she automatically have more liberal-minded and non-muslim demographics.
@fareezaizat8684
@fareezaizat8684 Ай бұрын
im malaysian, when you say malaysian muslim tend to be radicalized by oppose any unislamic behaviour, can you elaborate more...how can a muslim oppose unislamic behaviour become "radicalized"?? they just be a muslim, basically my understanding of wht u trying to say is muslim be a muslim and practicing Islam is consider as "radical"...am i right? if it is then you sound radical to me in secular perspective
@NathanAEnver
@NathanAEnver Ай бұрын
@@fareezaizat8684 Since you're a Malay I'm just gonna use bahasa to be more close and understandable, Jadi tuan, radikal dalam ibadah itu sebenarnya tak apa, sembahyang 5 waktu(5times prayer), dzikir, zakat, dsb. Bahkan 98% teman saya muslim, jangankan teman, keluarga saya pun muslim semua, basically I'm a murtad, but I know Sharia laws and other Islamic teachings because I go to madrasa, anyway, when they should've been working with me, I let them pray while I'm still working, that's fine I have no problem at all, people have their own beliefs lah, tapi itu harus dua arah, saya menghormati tuan, janganlah melarang saya ketika saya minum alkohol atau memakan babi, menyuruh saya shalat dan kembali ke Islam, dan "Alhamdulillah" di Indonesia ini saling respect tuan, ketika mereka tau saya ni murtad tapi hormat dengan mereka, bahkan help them to do their religious duties, they also respect me with letting me to become who I am, an atheist. That's not the case for the Malay youths, if you not affluent enough to protect yourself, you will succumb to paksaan oleh orang sekitar yang mencampuri urusanmu, that's just the society, the government? I can sued goverment official if they denied me to change my religion or refuse service because of my faith, in Malaysia? Read the news..
@NathanAEnver
@NathanAEnver Ай бұрын
@@fareezaizat8684 basically minding your own business and be devout Muslim is NOT radical Islamist, but when you advocate for the basic of the laws, the rules of the government, should be in favor of islamic laws and in effect discriminating people who have different opinions and believe than Islam, then you are a radical-islamist.
@NathanAEnver
@NathanAEnver Ай бұрын
@@fareezaizat8684 in Indonesia there's plenty of transgender actress that are successful, yes many people say bad comments, but generally, while opposing the idea of transgender, Indonesian still holds their breath, enjoying what the actress do, even support what's their doing(not their transition, but they refrain from talking it all the time), while I see a famous malaysian transgender, and most of people are calling her bad names, judging and ridicule her. I'm not saying Indonesian are the nicest people on internet, quite the contrary sometimes, but they are increasingly aware of differentiating between their values and other people's values. Basically becoming more bhineka tunggal ika, different, but one.
@fareezaizat8684
@fareezaizat8684 Ай бұрын
@@NathanAEnver dalam islam sendiri hukuman bagi murtad sebahagian ulama menyatakan qisas (bunuh) tp dilakukan oleh penguasa bukan orang awam, tu pun setelah dikaunseling dan diajak kembali kepada Islam, tp ada sebahagian ulama menyatakan qisas utk murtad tu hanya sekadar takzir(hukuman yg ditetapkan oleh pemimpin/pemerintah bukan ketetapan agama) bukannya hudud....apa2 pun mcm mana kamu dgn yakinnya rasakan orang Melayu seperti itu? kamu duduk di Malaysia ke? kalau betul pun, itu adalah usaha utk mengajak orang tu kembali kepada Islam, pada kami orang yang keluar Islam ni satu hal yg besar kerana hukumannya pun sangat serious...thats part of Islamic belief
@jefri4176
@jefri4176 3 ай бұрын
Thank god majority indonesian is still holding true to pancasila as their ideology 😊. That way we can be more advanced in future instead of holding on to the past or using religion glorifying the past achievements instead of making new achievements ahead.
@sdm3032
@sdm3032 3 ай бұрын
Hope one day Indonesia become a superpower and teach malaysia a lesson...its already started happening now...Indo is developing fast and MY going backwards. Wishes frm indian in malaysia
@JiyaYa-sh9vb
@JiyaYa-sh9vb 3 ай бұрын
​@sdm3032 But animation in malaysia are developing
@JiyaYa-sh9vb
@JiyaYa-sh9vb 3 ай бұрын
​@sdm3032 But animation in malaysia are developing
@sdm3032
@sdm3032 3 ай бұрын
@@JiyaYa-sh9vbLol what can u do with just animation 🤣🤣
@JiyaYa-sh9vb
@JiyaYa-sh9vb 3 ай бұрын
@sdm3032 you say MY going backwards. But the animation are developing and even reach to the Japan, Indonesia and Vietnam. What with the teach 'malaysia a lesson'? Why didn't you become someone who bring MY upwards then? Are you even love this country?
@albar-maulana
@albar-maulana 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know what defines conservative in terms of religion.. indonesian youths care a lot about their religions.. but mostly keep their faith for themselves.. because they are tired of hypocrisy from the same side or the other side
@Gossuarit
@Gossuarit 3 ай бұрын
love how they put “radical” and “Islam” in the same sentence. Totally not equating em, wow unbiased cna😂
@zirohito2580
@zirohito2580 3 ай бұрын
Aipac paid hard 😂
@ogapadoga2
@ogapadoga2 3 ай бұрын
Good for Singapore!
@aqildarwisy-np3ds
@aqildarwisy-np3ds 3 ай бұрын
in history, singapore also a muslim dominant island and belong to malay muslim .
@ogapadoga2
@ogapadoga2 3 ай бұрын
@@aqildarwisy-np3ds muslims are failures
@-rcrc-r7624
@-rcrc-r7624 3 ай бұрын
@@aqildarwisy-np3ds Before Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism were the predominant religions in Singapore and Malaysia Also, what is the point of bringing this out? Singapore belongs to Singaporean, that's it
@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj
@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj 3 ай бұрын
@@aqildarwisy-np3dsnot anymore apparently
@pustakarileks7404
@pustakarileks7404 3 ай бұрын
@@-rcrc-r7624 don't be made dude
@ziggycat7504
@ziggycat7504 3 ай бұрын
It's not conservative, for the Muslim it's the way of life; where life in the world is temporary, while life hereafter is eternity.
@Kingcharleschow1
@Kingcharleschow1 3 ай бұрын
Bs lah u
@ziggycat7504
@ziggycat7504 3 ай бұрын
@@Kingcharleschow1 The same response when the Prophets faced the kafirs before, but more painful than this. May you get guidance.
@ziggycat7504
@ziggycat7504 3 ай бұрын
@@Kingcharleschow1 The same response when the Prophets faced the kafirs then, but worse. Hope u get guidance.
@Maxr9724
@Maxr9724 3 ай бұрын
Clearly not when quran & hadiths prove islam to be a fake & hateful deen.
@amanokinji6220
@amanokinji6220 23 күн бұрын
@@Kingcharleschow1 apa u tau, you da la kiasu tak berkawan dgn org. lol.
@girlleo2807
@girlleo2807 3 ай бұрын
as a muslim malay malaysian, to me, by all means islam first. islam is not simply ritual religion but it is a way of life that encompasses whole aspects in this life and the hereafter. islam is beyond science and technology coz it is advanced. i can see that malaysian youngsters especially the aborigins / natives of the land that are called bumiputera, they are open minded and love to seach deeper on things including the history of themselves, the country and everything. they are not bigots. they just became the better version of their parents.
@Joujou350
@Joujou350 3 ай бұрын
You're right ,don't listen to this propoganda.I'm revert muslim french 🇨🇵☪️ and Islam is my way of life .Sorry for my english
@nnnz6018
@nnnz6018 2 ай бұрын
@user-gu2qq3rh3wbruh sorry to say but how do you know malay does not learn any of that 😂. We strictly follow mazhab syafie because you can't just cherry pick things you like from different mazhab. Pick one and follow it . Usually Malaysian will only follow one and it is Imam Syafie so that whta we learn and practice is same and easy to follow
@VivekKamble-ir4xq
@VivekKamble-ir4xq Ай бұрын
​@@Joujou350muslim are outdated because of this conservative nature
@VivekKamble-ir4xq
@VivekKamble-ir4xq Ай бұрын
​@@nnnz6018you people are following arab culture in the name of religion 😂
@amanokinji6220
@amanokinji6220 23 күн бұрын
@@Joujou350 May Allah guide us all, Amiin
@grainherstal1912
@grainherstal1912 3 ай бұрын
So you're a bad person for simply voting for an islamic party ? Now i know why many people don't trust CNA's journalism. The quality of these analysis can support an entire circus.
@greencat9150
@greencat9150 3 ай бұрын
I think you need to know, Indonesia politic problem. What the men said is true. It’s dosent mean you will be bad person if you choose it. But he choose the best one , the middle one (nasionalis and also put religion in same way)
@smilingface2006
@smilingface2006 3 ай бұрын
it's bad voting any religious party- me.
@electric_sniper0076
@electric_sniper0076 3 ай бұрын
They did not explicitly said voting for an Islamic party makes them bad. They just implied youth’s exposure to racial and religious sentiments while being politically immature isn’t a good phenomenon. 3:35
@Peliwat.Nusantara
@Peliwat.Nusantara 16 күн бұрын
They go very cheap. CNA = insecure kiasu news
@rizqi1179
@rizqi1179 3 ай бұрын
As if you try to make affiliating with something islamic is wrong or embarrassing. It's their country, it's their land. Let them do what they wish with it. Everything have balance. Even their God do not like something excessive.
@martin96991
@martin96991 3 ай бұрын
Which God? Alla? Who've ordered to kill non believers who don't believe in it. It is definitely not a God.
@PunkDogCreations
@PunkDogCreations 3 ай бұрын
*god, not God.
@rizqi1179
@rizqi1179 3 ай бұрын
@@martin96991 I will not feed you. Point is, it's their country...is not us, we, me, you. Stop being salty in every period. Even periods have their own days.
@rizqi1179
@rizqi1179 3 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX2023Pro nah, Europe is Europe, migrant should know better. Or better yet, why not migrate to a similar culture so there can be less friction. If I may so bold, just fight to the death if need be so you need not to migrate. I once knew a nomad community, they talked about avoiding tax, war, and many reasons for living in their preferred countries. In my view, these kind of people are the first to abandon just to save their own skin from scratches.
@Maxr9724
@Maxr9724 3 ай бұрын
​@@rizqi1179Point is muslims r not native to either Malaysia or Indonesia, they were occupied by trade relations.
@Tamayo.Sama2023
@Tamayo.Sama2023 Ай бұрын
In indonesia we don't like politicians who using religion mostly islam as their tools. That's why anis lost the election. The trend right now is nationalist. Islam in Indonesia is different, Unity in Diversity
@Aksarallah
@Aksarallah 16 күн бұрын
Nationalism is outdated and illogical. It limits your love for others within borders that was drawn by the British. All Nations will fall, all religions will die except Islam that will stand till the hour
@cinefile0075
@cinefile0075 6 күн бұрын
​​@@Aksarallah😂😂😂 brainwashed
@_91K_
@_91K_ 3 ай бұрын
Their "conservative" is bashing and vehemently criticizing things they disagree with even when its 99.99% harmless, e.g. girls without hijab, or coldplay concert. Doing these vicious verbal abuse, to them is a "good deed".
@Halaqa
@Halaqa 3 ай бұрын
Haram is harmful.
@nellieevans1540
@nellieevans1540 3 ай бұрын
@@Halaqa Yet so many halal people love haram stuffs.
@KhalixMR
@KhalixMR 3 ай бұрын
​@@nellieevans1540haram is still harmful no matter how many people like it
@MalayNomad90
@MalayNomad90 3 ай бұрын
Even as more muslims youth in Malaysia becoming more religious, they are still accepting of foreigners and are friendly towards them. In the western countries, people are becoming conservative with xenophobic and discriminatory behaviours. Americans vs Mexicans and hispanic minority, Canada vs foreign nationals, Britons against EU nationals, Australian vs Chinese immigrants, German vs Turkish minorities, France vs Algerian minority, Sweden vs Syrians refugees etc. In fact more, westerners are coming to live in Malaysia lately. You can see many youtubers would promote Malaysia as holiday destinations and a place to live and retire. Conservatives countries like UAE, Qatar and Saudi Arabia now are fast becoming developed countries and world-class while liberal western countries are sinking down the drain. In the long run, Malaysian religious conservatism will prevail over ridiculous liberal agenda of the west.
@jly5828
@jly5828 3 ай бұрын
Say by the geng who said there is 1.2 Million Chinese National in Malaysia , Malaysia Home Affair Minister has denied this fake news and the geng still non stop using this fake news to attack the government.
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُوْنَ الْكٰفِرِيْنَ اَوْلِيَآءَ مِنْ دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِيْنَ ۚ وَمَنْ يَّفْعَلْ ذٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّٰهِ فِيْ شَيْءٍ اِلَّاۤ اَنْ تَتَّقُوْا مِنْهُمْ تُقٰٮةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّٰهُ نَفْسَهٗ ۗ وَاِ لَى اللّٰهِ الْمَصِيْرُ "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."
@jiep5327
@jiep5327 16 күн бұрын
They don't want to see the truth that we are just ok the way we are...why should they bother about other country? They should fix their own...prove to us their way is better...
@aleffush
@aleffush 3 ай бұрын
UAI instead of targeting concerts, why dont you do something with locals like sajat and aliff syukri? or the issue is selective?
@nnnz6018
@nnnz6018 2 ай бұрын
😂 we've already gone through that didnt we? 😂
@Veloce2000
@Veloce2000 Ай бұрын
The west like USA, Europe & Down Under also hav a fair share of conservative people. However the same term cannot be applied to conservatives in Malaysia. Their conservatives do not judge nor critisise the liberals in any way except for political ideology. Tho they disagree with those liberals, they do not bark, spit or try to illegalise them about sex orientation, attire , nudity, religious views etc. They mind their own business & see these differences as personal. Very different from our local conservatives. 😢And i digress at these local conservatives.
@halolalala
@halolalala 3 ай бұрын
Well, the youths in indonesia is tired from all the conservatives scandals. And the last election is the proof of that. And i believe the conservatives bloc are still able to gather 25% vote in the presidential election is because the president candidate is a respected figure in the education society, and the strongest opponent has a human rights scandal in the past. If not for that the vote will be much lower than that.
@colinagun9073
@colinagun9073 3 ай бұрын
Not conservative, but toward hardline extremist, more like Afghanistan
@029_rafeehidayat3
@029_rafeehidayat3 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm…. We’re not talking about those guys. Those are extremists and they seek to destroy our pancasila. Indonesias still has an ongoing war on terror
@Gossuarit
@Gossuarit 3 ай бұрын
That’s false. We become religious to find meaning in life
@nurulainmohdkhalid360
@nurulainmohdkhalid360 3 ай бұрын
Congrats for being brainwashed 😁
@imanhafiz9846
@imanhafiz9846 3 ай бұрын
everone knows afgans are much more extreme than here,we have law and order,and what you’re saying here are completely ignorant and borderline hate speech.
@penangites693
@penangites693 3 ай бұрын
Pdrm pls angkut this racist
@kayderl
@kayderl 3 ай бұрын
It’s ok. They can be as conservative or as liberal as they want. As long as they are not spreading extremism ideology and do not infringe on the rights of non-Muslim. Malaysia, in my opinion, is still a secular society.
@saroshsiddiq
@saroshsiddiq 3 ай бұрын
Very good analysis I must say. also in Karachi Pakistan we have same mosque infront of the cathedral since centuries
@tripriagiwiguna
@tripriagiwiguna 3 ай бұрын
Me as an Indonesian personally i dont like being called moderate muslim but i also dont like when someone calling me fundamentalist/conservative muslim. It sounds derogatory to me. I always tried to do what muslim suppose to do like daily prayer, charity, fasting in ramadhan and inshaallah someday i will go pilgrim to mekkah and avoid anything that considered as sin such as consuming non halal foods, drinking alcohol, gambling, indecency behaviour etc
@VivekKamble-ir4xq
@VivekKamble-ir4xq Ай бұрын
First become human not muslim
@iPontianakz
@iPontianakz 8 күн бұрын
@@VivekKamble-ir4xq and what about you
@davinxi5926
@davinxi5926 3 ай бұрын
Good coverage CNA
@scatologica
@scatologica 3 ай бұрын
Being conservative is common practices in the east not just Islam.
@boyeliza
@boyeliza 3 ай бұрын
People said be yourself, be who you are never care about what others thinking. But when you really did , the one who said it, begins to feel bother about your change.
@pengejarbintang
@pengejarbintang 3 ай бұрын
It's okay to become conservative. But be careful, you may trapped to extremism if polarization keep you in the bubble.
@user-yj9ty7yc5y
@user-yj9ty7yc5y 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, me myself since 17yrs old live in hedonism and always strive to become rich. But now I'm 35 yrs old and start thinking I cant forever live like this, I got everything I'm looking for, money, house, wife, job..Now i know, this is not my life goal..thus I'm back to Islam, to Allah, to Prophet Muhammad PBUH. I strive for hereafter..😢 O Allah please forgive my ignorance..
@dariusalias870
@dariusalias870 3 ай бұрын
Betul betul, hidup ini terlalu singkat, kita tak tau hari esok kita macamana kan
@ZhenYae
@ZhenYae 3 ай бұрын
And these are the goals of billions, without being a Muslim.
@jaytee283
@jaytee283 3 ай бұрын
Islam is false. So think on that. Read the Gospel instead.
@ZhenYae
@ZhenYae 3 ай бұрын
@jaytee283 Clarification. Jesus was a communist, and he was never white or individualistic. He was Asian. White worship has its cost.
@benzpinto
@benzpinto 3 ай бұрын
as humans at some point of their life, they realise they have spiritual needs once they have all their basic needs met. spiritual needs is not necessarily religion but one’s acceptance of reality and his/her relationship with nature and universe for peace of mind.
@kesatria_gelap
@kesatria_gelap 3 ай бұрын
non muslim in kelantan and terenganu no complain about PAS. Why outsider always show bad influent about conservative party
@84yyds81
@84yyds81 3 ай бұрын
lol, they don't complain, they just quietly moving out from the states, look at how many non in the states? not even 5% and most of them are senior citizen
@Cavabko
@Cavabko 3 ай бұрын
my neighbour who migrated with family to pahang also from Kelantan
@MrTeoh6100
@MrTeoh6100 2 ай бұрын
How many Chinese Kelantan married Malay? Despite the fact the Chinese speak perfect Malay dialect , master in Curry meal and wear salong, they won't interace because in their deep mind they knew only Chinese value and mindset is helping Chinese to better life .... yes can adapt malay culture but related household affair and family wealth they is not tolerate to let daughter in law Muslim interface, I searching web found out highest interace married is KL , Selangor.. lowest is Sarawak, Terengganu, Kelantan and N9, cause behind this stat show on par of income between two couples or couples family is main reason the marry occur, while living in same village with huge gap of wealth among different family is not a big deal
@user-co3gg5qt7f
@user-co3gg5qt7f 3 ай бұрын
If you want to adopt them keep an eye on them, don't spread in ASEAN. we are tired of radicals been exporting here in ph.
@boyeliza
@boyeliza 3 ай бұрын
But you in philipines goes to middle east for work. How is that for hipocrisy?
@salinagrandebuteraz5993
@salinagrandebuteraz5993 3 ай бұрын
Money..they get money they will zip their mouth..many muslims are rich rich ​@@boyeliza
@user-co3gg5qt7f
@user-co3gg5qt7f 3 ай бұрын
@@boyeliza Filipinos are working as good example not being a Ferrofesf... These countries are choosing Filipinos to work in their respective countries around the world cos they are caring, loving and can speak English well. That's why middle east countries adjust the restrictions so that they can hire Filipinos, if not they'll be bared hiring Filipinos.
@user-co3gg5qt7f
@user-co3gg5qt7f 3 ай бұрын
@@salinagrandebuteraz5993 do you know that Philippines rank 5th most minerals and largest gas deposit in the world? Philippines is blessed with abundance of natural resources and thousand of white beautiful islands in the world.
@user-co3gg5qt7f
@user-co3gg5qt7f 3 ай бұрын
@Broskisnowski people chose it because of the culture, freedom and influence of Spain, it take effect of the daily lives of the people... What the use of force if people insisted and persistence? Same with your country before your rel come, Indeed mslim came here but didn't stay that long cos of Spain stayed for 333 years followed by america.
@whetuification
@whetuification 2 ай бұрын
Without Lies Islam Dies!!!
@Sukacukur
@Sukacukur 3 ай бұрын
Salam,saya dari malaysia. Di malaysia keadaan politiknya berbeza kerana selepas pilihanraya umum pada tahun 2018 telah menjadi sebuah buku baru dalam politik malaysia.We are divided sama seperti di amerika ketika donald trump menjadi presiden negaranya.
@GierlangBhaktiPutra
@GierlangBhaktiPutra 3 ай бұрын
In my personal experience, I find more relevance in religion. When there are conflicting values around, I find that my religion offers me strong ground to justify my moral and ethical viewpoint. Another contributing factors I think because many religious institutions such as dawah community and mosque start exploring broader topics in their sermons or preaches. It may include social, political, and ecological discussions that resonate with our daily experiences. For instance, my community put emphasis on eco-consciousness rooted in Islam. I think the notion of conservatism can be viewed in a more positive manner. As long as we still put respect towards other religious communities.
@029_rafeehidayat3
@029_rafeehidayat3 3 ай бұрын
Finally something good about Indonesia 😊😊
@neutroyaz
@neutroyaz 3 ай бұрын
While you call it conservatism, others call it being more educated and knowledgeable on religious matters. I look at the Malay/ Muslim kids in Sg who are not only academically weak but also have poor religious upbringing, and I wonder what will become of them. Will they become the burden of Singapore in future? Proper religious upbringing would have kept them in check, to a certain extent. Saying it as I see it.
@nnnz6018
@nnnz6018 2 ай бұрын
Agree. Thank you. As it should, because religion is a way of life. Some people think that religion is just something they introduce themselves as
@timungcina
@timungcina 3 ай бұрын
In Malaysia many parents send their children to religious schools or tahfiz schools... no wonder this happens... Alhamdulillah...
@sephatu6521
@sephatu6521 2 ай бұрын
In the backdrop of difficulties from the covid pandemic, many are reflecting inwards and see value in mental health and reslience. Many are seeking self discipline and life structure to rid anxiety and mindlessness. And no makeshift exercise can help since it lacks a fundamental backbone which is purpose and objective truths. Islam in particular is seen incredibly attractive, even in the west, because of its holistic effectiveness.
@tivo3720
@tivo3720 23 күн бұрын
Not only in Malaysia and Indonesia. Same in Bangladesh too .... Celebration of Bengali New year is now become Hindu celebration ( a shrik for muslim) . Hindu, Buddhists r continuously getting harrassed online and offline daily by muslim. The traditional dress sarees got replaced by Burkha, hijab . Bcz now tradition bengali dress is haram for them. These were not the cases before. Before there were muslims too.
@kesumakesuma7551
@kesumakesuma7551 3 ай бұрын
In islam there is only 1, no such thing as conservative. A muslim need to follow islamic teaching strictly...one may choose pahala or dosa
@ZhenYae
@ZhenYae 3 ай бұрын
You want to follow my laws or you take the highway. Same, if you do feel the indignation of it all.
@CALIMA2000
@CALIMA2000 3 ай бұрын
But one doesn't need to change the world just to go to Jannah.
@user-jh5eu2dr3r
@user-jh5eu2dr3r 3 ай бұрын
As Indonesian Muslim I will never vote based on religion first. Never!! I love Being Indonesian more than being muslim
@ayamjaguh2547
@ayamjaguh2547 3 ай бұрын
what a nationalist spirit . and yet u are just a poor country 😂
@hidatyan
@hidatyan 3 ай бұрын
​@@ayamjaguh2547Embarrassing!
@kingofherosking3510
@kingofherosking3510 3 ай бұрын
​@@ayamjaguh2547sound really Islamic of you to say, poor huh hmmmm very Islamic indeed lol.
@teckza3528
@teckza3528 3 ай бұрын
Ada yang salah dengan pola pikir lu. Padahal agama dan negara itu berdampingan tapi lu seolah mengatakan agama bertentangan dengan bangsa. Agama padahal sudah mengajarkan untuk mencintai bangsa. Ketahuan ini orang masih kurang kenal islam. Harga diri lu dimana bro identitas lu sendiri aja lu bandingin
@hijraisthecure1727
@hijraisthecure1727 3 ай бұрын
​@@teckza3528ya acheh nasionalist nya kuat sama agama islam nya serambi mekah .
@benzpinto
@benzpinto 3 ай бұрын
when a child is rigorously indoctrinated since young on a particular way of life, they would most likely hold on to it because it becomes their identity. islam is very good at this. a child is taught to pray 5 times a day since young. no other religion can compare to this dedication.
@nusantarajaya3468
@nusantarajaya3468 3 ай бұрын
there was a presidential candidate who canceled the U23 WC on the pretext of Israel..we punished him for becoming president..can you imagine this happening in the biggest country of Islam..
@pengikutsetia8424
@pengikutsetia8424 3 ай бұрын
Inisialnya Ganjar kan
@endworld615
@endworld615 3 ай бұрын
Sebagai orang melayu aku tak setuju ahli politik seperti pas mengunakan agama untuk kepentingan peribadi untuk undi
@smilingface2006
@smilingface2006 3 ай бұрын
serious? hope you're not fake it's hard to believe. as someone who's not too bind to religion we always thought religion cannot be mixed with politic, any religion. it's a dream for major muslim to think this way.
@furrycheetah
@furrycheetah 3 ай бұрын
​@@smilingface2006he is talking about people abuse their religion for personal gains
@smilingface2006
@smilingface2006 3 ай бұрын
@@furrycheetah talking about PAS using religion to get votes isn't it? i think he really is open minded for a muslim
@SkyLark-ig2db
@SkyLark-ig2db 2 ай бұрын
PH guna ideology kafir barat, liberalisme untuk dapat undi, at least PAS ade agama, bukan mcm PH
@furrycheetah
@furrycheetah 2 ай бұрын
@@SkyLark-ig2db Boleh tak senaraikan 30 anak Dajjal ad-Massih Di akhir zaman fitnah Dajjal ad-Massih ini?
@Transformersrobotpower
@Transformersrobotpower 3 ай бұрын
Malay already conservative even before malaysia exist. because our race are merge with islam, this have no problem in Malaysia since Malay & and islam already merged together, we are ethnoreligious, (race with only 1 religion) similar like jews, which only adopt judaism Javanese are different. they never merge their race with religion, they are not ethnoreligious, you can find javanese hindu, javanese christian, javanese muslim, but no way you will find malay adopt other religion except islam Javanese and malay are different. sadly, most chinese & indian didnt know about this Thats why javanese decendant in malaysia have no choice other than assimilate themselves into malay society because they fear malay people will reject them, Malay are simple, if you claim you are muslim but not follow / practicing islam, you will never be part of our family indonesia is javanese majority country, they are not malay
@aungmyintoo4635
@aungmyintoo4635 3 ай бұрын
Malay start become conservative after 2000s, before that they are all liberal.
@Transformersrobotpower
@Transformersrobotpower 3 ай бұрын
no. we Malay already adopt arabic name after accept islam hundred years ago javanese did not like to adopt arabic name, they still retained their sanskrit name even after they accept islam, even they accept islam, they are not serious about practicing it, unlike malay. the one you see liberal malay is elite people, not the whole class of malay javanese almost of them are liberal
@puterilisa260
@puterilisa260 3 ай бұрын
When we try to practise our religion people says we are conservative. Islam is the way of life. It is not just a religion. Whatever Muslim do in their life is always connected to their religion. Learn Islam very well and you will understand. How to rule the country, sports, marriage and divorce, business, trade, studies, law enforcement, anything and everything has it's general and specific rules.
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
@@puterilisa260 qAllah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."???
@puterilisa260
@puterilisa260 3 ай бұрын
@@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt ok. The points is....
@curious_one1156
@curious_one1156 3 ай бұрын
In this world, either we can have sexy influencers, or have strict religious ones. The moderate space does not exist.
@heppy8604
@heppy8604 2 ай бұрын
People in the comment section seem could not differentiate between being religious and being conservative. Being religious does not mean being conservatif and vice versa. Habibie and Abdurrahman Wahid (Indonesian former presidents), both of them are very religious, spritual AND open minded.
@nicoaguswibiantoro5489
@nicoaguswibiantoro5489 3 ай бұрын
In Indonesia more liberal than Conservative
@anandnair5223
@anandnair5223 3 ай бұрын
Herd mentality. All due respect to religion and their practices but you have to feel sorry for these youths. You’re on a joyride instead of journey..
@nirm3220
@nirm3220 3 ай бұрын
most of these are in east coast...if west coast its more liberal and people are more open minded
@TheAdammantium
@TheAdammantium 3 ай бұрын
The common thread among the people interviewed (and what I believe is mostly true) is that youths follow INFLUENCERS on social media. Politics do not 'influence' the masses as well as religion. Especially in non-secular countries like Malaysia and Indonesia, religion is a backbone of their society; therefore, they are more familiar with it, albeit without the best context in some cases, and that's how religion prosper where politics don't. But let's be real, youths aren't the only group that are easily influenced by religion. Boomers and beyond are as well - that's how the culture is set up in the first place.
@SaltedBadly
@SaltedBadly 3 ай бұрын
As long as the govt is just and fair towards its citizens, every thing is and will be better.
@FriendlyTwo
@FriendlyTwo 2 ай бұрын
Malaysia becoming more pro-PAS means more talents will flow to Singapore.
@sharvenjr8379
@sharvenjr8379 Ай бұрын
Lmao
@cermaijeruk2859
@cermaijeruk2859 3 ай бұрын
If more conservative means closer islam than i'm all in. Life is short.
@rxxsxhux9710
@rxxsxhux9710 3 ай бұрын
Indonesian youth have their own way, they're following kajian but its away from conservative, the religion and faith become so personal matter.
@gondala
@gondala 3 ай бұрын
Menurut saya, Politik dan Kekonservatifan dalam beragama (khususnya islam) memang akan saling kait-mengait. Apabila di suatu negara aliran politiknya masih mendudukkan antara Islam vs non-Islam, dan persaingan kedua kubu ini sangat kuat, maka masyarakatnya akan cenderung menjadi lebih konservatif karena didorong oleh usaha sejumlah pihak untuk memenangkan kubu yang lebih islami. Sebelumnya indonesia juga mengalami politik "identitas" beberapa waktu lalu, namun hal tersebut menjadi ujian bagi bangsa Indonesia dan akhirnya rakyat dan pemerintah sadar bahwa para politisi lah yang menjadi biang kerok dari persoalan tersebut. Akhirnya, rakyat tidak lagi mendukung orang-orang atau politisi yang "radikal" atau "penjual agama", karena mereka inilah orang yang bisa memecah belah rakyat. Hal itu alhamdulillah didukung juga oleh pemerintah dimana pemerintah melakukan "tindakan" seperti pelarangan organisasi agama seperti Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia (HTI) yg mengosong Khilafah, juga organisasi masyarakat seperti Front Pembela Islam (FPI). Mungkin Indonesia bersyukur karena Pemerintahnya dan Tentaranya tetap menjaga keutuhan bangsa dan menjadi penjaga kesatuan dan persatuan bangsa.
@quannguyen2899
@quannguyen2899 3 ай бұрын
While most parts of the world are becoming more tolerant, acceptant and open minded. Muslim countries are becoming more radical and extreme. I'm worried what the world is heading to.
@mtaufiqn5040
@mtaufiqn5040 3 ай бұрын
You know that christianity and hinduism does have similar trait, their devout follower heading toward conservatism too
@quannguyen2899
@quannguyen2899 3 ай бұрын
​@@mtaufiqn5040 I admit that there are some extreme Christian and Hindu or even Buddhist, and most of the time, it doesn't affect people. But Muslim extremism is just on a whole new level that ... I'm speechless.
@aqildarwisy-np3ds
@aqildarwisy-np3ds 3 ай бұрын
bruh , do you know ..singapore neigbour is muslim dominant country?? just respect . singapore also a muslim island before chinese and indian arrived to this region
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
​@@quannguyen2899Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: يٰۤـاَيُّهَا الَّذِيْنَ اٰمَنُوْا قَا تِلُوا الَّذِيْنَ يَلُوْنَكُمْ مِّنَ الْكُفَّا رِ وَلْيَجِدُوْا فِيْكُمْ غِلْظَةً ۗ وَا عْلَمُوْاۤ اَنَّ اللّٰهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِيْنَ "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous." do other religions teach this?
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
​​@@mtaufiqn5040Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." *❓
@gokulsarath
@gokulsarath 2 ай бұрын
Indonesian Muslims were Hindus and Buddhists in past. Converted to Islam. Although they were not converted by sword as in the case of ancestors of Indian, Pakistani & Bangladeshi Muslims, Indonesian Muslims were earlier proud of their ancestry.
@VivekKamble-ir4xq
@VivekKamble-ir4xq Ай бұрын
Such muslim are conservative in nature they lost their identity 😢
@emmaleeaman1110
@emmaleeaman1110 3 ай бұрын
From the perspective of Islam & Islamic learning, it’s important the “preachers” have real training in Qur’an, and teach a “middle path” and “Unity in diversity”, which is what the Qur’an teaches. The core teachings of the Qur’an and therefore Islam are balance, Justice, peace, love, mercy, freedom, Unity, being the best human being you can be, serving God by serving all of God’s Creation. If someone is “preaching” anything they claim to be Islam which goes against those core values of the Qur’an, it is from themselves, not from Islam. As Muslims we have to study our own religion from our holy book the Qur’an in order to make sure no one else confuses you or teach you false things that are not in alignment with Qur’an. We have this problem in the USA as well, people such as Nouman Ali Khan who are not even Islamic scholars, they have no real training in Islam, but just call themselves “Islamic preacher” and are popular public speaker, then spreading radicalized ideas and using his popularity to sexually harass women who are his fan-base, which is absolutely condemned in Islam to sexually harass or abuse anyone in any way. We have to know the difference between the true Islam from our holy book the Qur’an versus what is the behavior of flawed human beings and what they say or do not being in alignment with Islam. Qur’an itself says “to you your religion, and to me mine” and also says “there is no compulsion in religion” - meaning, Allah gives agency to every human being to choose for themselves what religion they want to practice (or none), it is between that person and God only, and as Muslims we only have to show to every human being (and to all living beings) respect and kindness. As young Muslims we need to know our religion well straight from the source - Qur’an and Sahih Hadith - not from social media. The authentic Islam is about respect, balance, Justice, peace, love, mercy, freedom, kindness, care for the Earth, care for all people, putting our ego in check, living moderately, serving God through serving all human beings no matter their ethnicity or religion, being sincere and truthful, developing our good character and beautiful manners.
@shahjeeeeeeeeeeee562
@shahjeeeeeeeeeeee562 Ай бұрын
A person who celebrate Chinese new year or moon light festival will they considered as conservative ?
@Joekool88
@Joekool88 3 ай бұрын
0:05 sums up stupidity
@imanhafiz9846
@imanhafiz9846 3 ай бұрын
says you,we perhaps satisfied this way.
@dirmanbw336
@dirmanbw336 3 ай бұрын
They should learn from Indonesian election 2017
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 3 ай бұрын
RTM reports on Malaysian issues but CNA reports on Malaysia issues also? No wonder PAP is rarely criticized on Singaporean media.
@carrotinc
@carrotinc 3 ай бұрын
CNA is not positioned as a Singaporean news outlet, but as a regional news outlet. Because what happens in other countries affects Singapore.
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 3 ай бұрын
@@carrotinc Still doesn't change the fact that Singaporean media focus more on other countries than its own domestic issues. The PAP is so rarely criticized in the media that RSF ranks Singapore's media in the 129th place out of 180 countries because the news is heavily censored and controlled by the Singaporean government. It's basically the mouthpiece of the PAP disguised as a separate entity
@jjsamuelgunn1136
@jjsamuelgunn1136 3 ай бұрын
are you malaysian? you mean your news media don't report on what's happening in other countries?
@MalayanRakyat-ls2cw
@MalayanRakyat-ls2cw 3 ай бұрын
Reports on 3Rs and the afterlife
@aqildarwisy-np3ds
@aqildarwisy-np3ds 3 ай бұрын
​@@carrotinc affects singapore ?? islam also ? hey bruh . do you know about history of singapore ? singapore is belong to malays muslim before many chinese and indian arrived to this region at british time .
@Masonicon
@Masonicon Ай бұрын
my biggest problem with this lies on Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia considering even Shia Muslims "Kafir"
@amanokinji6220
@amanokinji6220 23 күн бұрын
what is your understanding about the word "Kafir" or shia? can you eloborate more how was those term is a problem for you?
@starz2020
@starz2020 3 ай бұрын
what we can see is that there is growing interest towards conservatism in malaysia especially due to weakness of the so called liberal political parties. Malaysia has been quite liberal in the past and now facing an increase of interest towards religious aspect.Indonesia, on the other hand moving towards the opposite direction.
@k.da2789
@k.da2789 3 ай бұрын
.... and what is the problem , with YOuth becoming more religious in any muslim country in the world ? what's the point of such title for this video ?
@aungmyintoo4635
@aungmyintoo4635 3 ай бұрын
It will become Taliban state and as a neighboring country, Singapore really concern.
@aqildarwisy-np3ds
@aqildarwisy-np3ds 3 ай бұрын
​@@aungmyintoo4635 read about history of singapore ! singapora is belong to malays muslim before many chinese and indian arrived to Singapore . your ancestor is not from here .
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt
@liarliarpantsonfire-iw1rt 3 ай бұрын
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَمَاۤ اَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ اِلَّا بِلِسَا نِ قَوْمِهٖ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۗ فَيُضِلُّ اللّٰهُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ وَيَهْدِيْ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ۗ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الْحَكِيْمُ "And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise." Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: اِنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنٰهُ قُرْاٰ نًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُوْنَ "Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
@jopesulaiman
@jopesulaiman 3 ай бұрын
just focus on your mutual friend "the chosen one" with their kindness and fair treatments that acceptable to your right minds. all start on 7th oct so just ignore the past.
@user-ov4jg2wi6k
@user-ov4jg2wi6k 2 ай бұрын
May Allah bless all.
@herry_ipiin1673
@herry_ipiin1673 Ай бұрын
percayalah,,menjalin hubugan dgn tetangga lebih baik dri pada saudara yg jauh🤝
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