Are Orthopedic Surgeons Bad People? The REALITY

[@Uprighthealth]

UPDATE: A few days after the recording of this episode my father suffered a fatal stroke. So unfortunately the correlation seemed to show itself for my dad. Protect yourself by building strength and coordiation to fall safely: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4uWY2x8fMZoq5Y

[@juliedueber247]

I’m so sorry for your loss. 😢🙏🏼

[@joycemcgehee4795]

Sympathies for your loss. After going through my own long recovery from breaking my femur last year, I can understand why your father had a stroke. The pain is terrible. After 7 months of PT, your exercises are helping me now with lingering hip pain

[@raelenesheppard3933]

I am so sorry. My thoughts are with you and your family.

[@shepatown]

Matt, Sorry for the loss of your father.

[@RedactedATS]

Oh man, I'm so sorry to hear that. My condolences ❤

[@Tyesha648]

Matt, I’m so sorry to hear about you Dad. You and your entire family are in my prayers.❤

[@vanessacarty6689]

So sorry for your loss🙏🏿 I really appreciate your videos and your emphasis on muscle health. You've given me a lot of food for thought when you said that we should be building muscle for a purpose not just for the sake of it. I now strengthen my muscles so that I can continue doing the things that I love..it's more motivating and shifts my focus. Thank you😊

[@sabinamock4799]

Sorry to hear about your dad. It's never easy to lose our parents. My thoughts are with you.

[@RedactedATS]

My experience, admittedly in NHS in Britain, is that my ortho surgeon was amazing. I had a complete tear of my ACL and smashed up the meniscus some years ago and everything was explained to me, surgical and non surgical. They also assigned me a physio to work out a programme before and after surgery. I worked really hard to do everything they told me and it paid off massively. My surgeon was one of the best in the UK, to be fair, and his particular field of interest was ACL reconstruction. He did such an excellent job that my repaired knee is now more stable than my other knee. It was only after I was fully healed and walking without a knee brace that he and the physio came clean and said that the amount of damage I'd done had made them concerned I'd never walk unaided again, even after surgery. But that was never even put forward as a possibility at the start so it never occurred to me that I wouldn't fully recover my mobility. Very clever doctors, both practically and psychologically.

[@thebigl156]

I completely agree. My issue with surgeons is their excessive eagerness to cut when so often the patient does not have the physical constitution to withstand the trauma of the surgery or recovery. I've seen this result in death, or reduced life quality again and again with parents, grandparents, and elderly friends. With my mother, it was heart attack, in post-op after a knee surgery. That said, my heart is with you and sending positive energy and love.

[@kimwarburton8490]

i have ACTUALLY been bedridden thanks to ME/CFS and i completely 100% agree re muscle dystrophy. The old adage 'use it or lose it' 100% applies and i wonder if some types of fibro-ish pains are due to this. My physical recovery started with cranial-sacral osteo -and i would fall asleep during the sessions thhey would wear me out but also put me into a relaxed mode. Then i did alexander technique for 2 years as well as cobbling together my own exercise regime consisting of yin (slow and posture holding) yoga style corrective exercises, qi gong and walking. I saw many improvements, but i have lapsed over this last winter and i need to take myself in hand again. This channel is very inspirational and where i got some of those exercises from

[@maxineboxer9714]

So very sorry about your father, my condolences. It’s a hard time for you.

[@tinacarson4792]

Yes, I totally agree!! Surgeons have their very important place. But I don't need surgery 👍

[@Catrell]

Been dealing with a back injury for years. Doctors don't serve a higher calling. They work a 9 to 5 and you are just one of many. Your healing is pretty much in your hands unless you're charismatic or it's an emergency. Such is the world.

[@goliathonscave9834]

"Doctors don't serve a higher calling. They work a 9 to 5" Really? I start at 7am and often finish after 6pm, sometimes after 7pm. I work 6 days a week almost every other week. Then I have to bring home paperwork to do at home during the evenings and on weekends. My surgical colleagues work more hours a day than me. They will alternate weeks in which they are on-call and as such, sometimes will be in the hospital 7 days a week. A few specialties have easy schedules that are 9 to 5. Those specialties (such as dermatology) represent the minority. Many docs are racing out of the office to go to the hospital or a medical meeting later in the evening. "Doctors don't serve a higher calling." So my friend's dad who agreed to work on a patient with hep B, and subsequently cut his hand on the patient's rib and died (this was back in the 80s) wasn't serving a higher calling? My partner who is wealthy enough to have retired a decade ago, still works and plans an annual trip to South America where he and his time perform charitable surgery isn't answering to a higher calling? Those 82-year-old doctors who are still walking around the hospital and teaching medical interns, residents, and fellows aren't answering to a higher calling? All those docs who toughed it out in the ER during the early months of COVID. knowing they could possibly contract it and die (which some of them did) are not answering to a higher calling? You're on a KZbin page where they literally teach you how to stop dealing with your years of back injury so what are you whining about? Do the exercises they show you here, fix your posture, and stop dumping on physicians because you are so miserable that no doc waved their magic wand and fixed you.

[@Catrell]

@@goliathonscave9834 arguing the exception. But good to see you're passionate. You know what? F*** it I've got time. When I say nine to five I mean that figuratively. Nobody's asking you to gripe about working long hours as if doctors are the only people that do that. Plenty of professions work long hours. I've worked mandatory 10 to 12 hour days, 6 days a week. Hell, I've had 24 hour shifts without sleep. For nearly a decade, I've had a back injury. Doctors weren't the only ones forced to work in throngs of people during the pandemic. A good amount of us were expected to come in and work regardless of the risk to our own personal safety. When I tried to get treatment from my own doctor, private insurance wouldn't cover it and he wanted nothing to do with it. So for the past 3 years, I've been given the run around from WC doctors who seem to be waiting for me to wave my own magic wand and say, "ah I guess it fixed itself!" The best prescription I ever got was to start exercising and lifting weights. It turns out to be a blessing and a curse, since I'm in the best shape of my life. I still can't walk for more than 20 minutes without needing to sit and rest at a relatively young age, but when I step into a doctor's office I'm given no more than a cursory glance and sent on my way. I could say more , I have plenty of examples and anecdotal evidence but I really don't want to give my life story to some random doctor on the internet who decided to take a YT comment personally. Suffice it to say that I've dealt with enough doctors myself to see that they treat their vocation like a job. Not a calling, a job.

[@goliathonscave9834]

@@Catrell It's nonsense to say that the exception is that doctors answer a higher calling. Your experience does not cover the entirety of the physician community. The point isn't that doctors are the only ones working long hours, the point is that you're pissed off because you failed to get better and now you're trying to put down the entire physician community because of it. What bizarro world do you live in where it is not known that doctors work long hours and put leisure and relationships on the back burner to dedicate themselves to their field? "When I tried to get treatment from my own doctor, private insurance wouldn't cover it and he wanted nothing to do with it." What is the point of that statement? Were you expecting your doctor to continue treating you for free then? Is that the higher calling you want? Free medical care?

[@unbreakable7633]

Really like your videos and advice. Here's how I feel about docs: they're people who only know how to do two things -- prescribe drugs, ones you frequently have to take the rest of your life, or to cut you open and then prescribe drugs. I recently went to an orthopedic specialist, had tests, and he said after it was all done, he simply said he couldn't find anything to operate on. Very frustrating. I avoid docs as much as I can.

[@annie68164]

So what is the next step? Physical therapy? I've been super fit for many years but took a desk job (also I'm kind of old- 50) and wasn't warming up properly after sitting all day before my runs. Now my foot has pain in the outer edge that ebbs and flows. I haven't been running for months. Don't know if I should see the ortho or something else.

[@unbreakable7633]

@@annie68164 My ortho told me to see a neurologist. See docs but use a skeptical ear, avoid taking advice that will be permanent (avoid surgery especially), try physical therapy before considering drugs or surgery. That's what I think. Good luck.

[@PhiyackYuh]

You have bad docs then. Not all doctors or surgeons are bad. There will always be bad apples in every profession. Plain and simple. Plus most patients wants short cuts when they are accountable to do all the rehab they need to be self sufficient. How many people in pain you know want to rehabilitate themselves to get better? You can do your research. Remember the hypocratic oath for medical people - do no harm.

[@Joy80JJ]

Sorry to hear about your Dad. Blessings to you Matt & your family.

[@dorothy4710]

Condolences and prayers you and your family.

[@d.nakamura9579]

I will always consider surgery only as a very last resort.

[@dellieb6337]

I am so sorry for your loss, prayers and good thoughts heading your way. 😮

[@xjohnnydsonx]

Thanks for your work and God bless and keep you in your loss 🙏

[@azdjedi]

Nailed it. The part about needing to use muscles more was key.

[@bobbiefarrar3036]

Sad in my heart for your loss of your Dad. You and your family are in my prayers. May God's love and peace comfort you during this time of sorrow.

[@sandysoekoe4629]

Sorry to hear about your dad Matt. Thoughts are with you and your family.

[@nicoleantaya-fraser9861]

I am so very sorry for your loss Matt. ❤🙏

[@fabienneisore7831]

Great explanation. Also, condolences for your loss Matt.

[@jmdes8]

Dear Matt, this is sad news indeed. Condolences, love and prayers to you and your family.

[@stonecandle]

Condolences to you and your family on the loss of your father. Heartbreaking news.

[@tinacarson4792]

My local orthopedic clinic never investigated my situation, but instead misdiagnosed me as bursitis. My true problem was actually muscle atrophy combined with extreme APT.

[@JohnRosado-ts1jp]

Thanks matt for the advice and inspiration

[@jameskemp4508]

So sorry to hear about your Dad, Matt.

[@ericag2233]

Oh Matt, such pain and loss. Sooo sorry.

[@lpatrick357]

I'm so sorry for the loss of your father.

[@mysterydiaz5302]

You are Awesome I’m so sorry for your loss

[@neoncat9573]

I had physical therapy two times following a freak fall in the house. It caused a knee injury the pain of which radiated to my hip. Medicare approved a series of physical therapy sessions on two different occasions. While it helped immensely and I was, after finishing each series, able to throw aside my cane, the difficulty came back again in short order. The minute I was able to walk normally, they released me. They did not reinforce my new, normal walking gait with any further appointments. Meanwhile I did the exercises they prescribed. I believe they let me go too soon, I guess to save Medicare money. What seemed to be sound recovery was actually recovery of very short order because there was no reinforcement, no follow-up whatsoever. My hip and knee, my walking reverted to what it had been before I went into physical therapy. That's why I would not go to physical therapy again. I had put in the necessary time and effort and never missed an appointment. Looking back, it was a huge waste of time and money. I liked it years ago when healthcare was between the patient and the doctor without so many administrative people involved making decisions. Too many cooks spoil the broth.

[@shepatown]

Matt, Dr Glidden (Naturopath Dr) says the only excellent allopathic medicine is performed in emergency situations. That adds credence to what you said here.

[@rajeevarora190]

I like to watch your videos as you are a very positive and enthusiastic person who can motivate people to exercise and strengthen the muscles. Sorry to hear about your father's fracture - with a son like you and everybody's prayers, I am sure he will get well. I was a bit surprised when a person like you seemed to mention his dementia in the passing with almost an acceptance that it is a given in old age. No - conditions like dementia are completely reversible naturally with patience. I am sure he is insulin resistant - start by reversing it with diet ( no grains, no diary, plenty of dark greens, fish - omega 3 rich foods, ...) and simple mental challenges.🙂

[@alyssakeezer8681]

I’m so sorry about your pops Matt. I hope he’s in good spirits and not in pain now. I’ve went to an orthopedic dr for a diagnosis about hip pain. After an MRI it showed a bulged disc possibly pressing on a nerve. After PT and nothing working, I’ve been watching you and self correcting myself. One thing I wanted to mention was my dr always shunned surgery for me. It surprised me and I guess he felt I wasn’t that bad-yet. So I guess that’s something to appreciate him for and giving me hope that if I worked on this I could fix my situation. Thank you for all your talks about techniques and especially teaching about muscles. You’ve really helped me a lot! Going for my short walk now! Glutes need some attention 😂 and that makes sense to me now!

[@alyssakeezer8681]

Oh Matt my apologies for not seeing the updated text. I am truly sorry for your huge loss. My prayers and thoughts go out to you 💝

[@teachertrx1204]

So very sorry about your Dad 🙏🙏

[@blockklocker]

What is your take on chiropractors? The one I have been seeing is apposed to me doing exercises to help my condition. He just wants me to walk and move. ? Your thoughts?

[@joycemcgehee4795]

I broke my femur in exactly that same place as your Dad. Recovery is long and painful. It's been 8 months.

[@voteformeg]

Yes!! Orthopedic surgeons are evil.

[@user-vq7nm9hr5o]

thanks for sharing exercises after doing it many, you are simple and easy. here are reasons for me 1. Instead of going for alternative messages etc. Where as excercise yourself is having solution...they are expensive too 2. Taking expenses steroids in name of supplement. It is better to excercise 3. Listen to your body !!! You are missing it alot off late.. Life is simple !!!

[@faridfaruqi3077]

Our condolences for you and your family members on demise of your dear loving father

[@user-vq7nm9hr5o]

Missing your amazing follow along routines !!!

[@mizzo9]

My orthopedic surgeon talked me out of surgery

[@kbuzbee]

Surprised Boney had nothing to say about this! 😊. 🙏 to you and your family

[@Uprighthealth]

Sometimes I just gotta keep him in the corner.

[@kbuzbee]

@@Uprighthealth Right? And deservedly so, I’m sure! 😂

[@deletesoon70]

So true about the perverse incentives driving most medicine now, they are all susceptible to those pressures. It's hard to know if we are getting genuine advice about surgeries and other procedures, given how much reward is available for them, while we bear all the risks. Also, just joined you and so sorry to hear about your dad, thats terrible news.

[@dellieb6337]

Is there any exercise or stretches for the cyst that is in the back of knee? Just wondering. ✋🏼😀

[@brucejensen3081]

Do these excercises help with calcification, or is that just diet

[@Joyceages]

I had an ACL reconstruction. My doctor was super intelligent and competent in his field. For the most part they are hyper focused in a field of study. When I asked him about rehab he knew very little. Then factor in the business of orthopedics. My friend is a orthopedic salesman. At the end of the day, it’s sales. Sure, it helps people but it is a business and without these ailments then there will be no business. It’s the same as pharmaceutical drugs.

[@cdsmetalhead99]

And you think this guy isn’t looking for your business? He has a monetary interest in you *not* getting surgery. The difference is that surgeons already make tons of money and don’t need to “sell” surgery to anyone.

[@elliottjames671]

Yeah

[@timidater4803]

surgeon said I need a hip replacement, said it was bone on bone. what can I do to avoid surgery?

[@tnvol5331]

what about torn rotator cuff or torn labrum

[@annemoretti3173]

I had total hip replacement 14 months age doc said hip is perfect but it's a soft tissue problem. My hip abductors and groin area muscles are sooo sore. I had had feel when I blked out from lose of blood from stomach bleeding from advil. So. My minus muscle in my butt was brused said the mri. Then I had bone on bone hip. I've been hurting for 3 yrs now plus he said I have a ton of arthritis 8n my lower back.

[@ramdom_assortment]

Saying doctor's can only understand scientific studies would imply that people like Tesla and Einstein wouldn't be able to understand the studies.

[@TheUniverseExists]

What are your thoughts on why physical therapy is so behind the times? I essentially had to do a lot of self research to find the right stretches and moves to fix my issues. Physical therapy (when I tried it) gave me very simply stuff that simply didn’t do much or provide permanent solutions.

[@eunicewong3963]

The therapist wanted you to visit more often so that he/she can earn more. They will not give you all (effective for you) solutions during the first few visits.

[@quadrixxx6064]

Hey Matt, i really need your help. I will do anything to meet you in person. Please how can you help me in my 2 years of no help hip and back pain.

[@barbarawebb7185]

What about gluteal and labral tears?

[@azlijamil]

Who would think surgeons are bad people?

[@tosue1]

Surgeons want to surge! That's how I look at it.

[@JohnRosado-ts1jp]

A cast would have been a better approach for his humerus....unless it was shattered beyond repair....

[@klmjtr]

🙏🏼

[@dougsheldon5560]

Better than some quack chiropracter

[@goliathonscave9834]

I'm an interventional spine physician who works in a very large orthopedic group. My goal is to help people nonsurgically and if that fails, determine if the patient is a surgical candidate. I and the colleagues I trained with have had many papers on spine published as well as a couple of textbooks published. Also, when my patient has finished PT, I typically refer them to YOUR site for some specific videos. Basically, I see all sides of medical care from a surgical, and non-surgical standpoint as well as being an advocate of your channel. Some of what you say is correct but quite a bit is completely off base. Why do you attempt to quantify a profession you have no first-hand knowledge of? First, orthopedic surgeons as a whole spend more time steering people away from surgery than recommending it. My colleagues can see 50 patients in a day and not recommend surgery to a single person. Please stop saying they tend to recommend surgery because that's their livelihood. Furthermore, no patient can get their insurance company to authorize surgery unless it meets a host of criteria, these days, some of the criteria are not even reasonably justifiable. Though there was a time when a doctor could get away with an unjustifiable surgery (there will always be a bad apple in the bunch), those days are OVER. We spend more time trying to get reasonable procedures authorized by the insurance companies than you could imagine. Also, orthopedic surgeons are not intellectual? Stop it. Although intellectuality is independent of occupation, you can be sure that the smartest folks in med school (typically the surgeons) are some of the most intellectual people you will meet. Not all of them are master philosophers, but NONE of them are vapid. No ortho surgeon is doing surgery for atrophied muscles. Really? Why would you suggest that? The official stance when it comes to things such as sports medical issues is that only 5% of those injuries require surgery. As such, surgeons spend most of their time referring patients to physical therapy and/or other non-surgical experts like myself to manage the patient non-surgically. Surgeons don't have time for reading research? Sorry, but I have to tell you that is an ignorant statement. To stay certified, all physicians MUST perform CMEs (Continuing Medical Education) and take recertification exams routinely (for my specialty, it's every 10 years). Furthermore, many doctors independently attend weekly or monthly journal clubs to review cases and literature. Hospital-based surgeons often attend weekly Grand Rounds to do just such. We also have to train the next generation of doctors so are frequently involved with internships, residency, and fellowship training YEAR ROUND. Basically, we are forced to read the research whether we want to or not. Admittedly, the research can be skewed, but it's not unusual for the more alert surgeons to call it out during a journal review. As a spine specialist, I can tell you that most patients are shocked when they learn that surgeons rarely recommend surgery for isolated low back or neck pain. So many people automatically assume that they need to go stampeding to the neurosurgeon to get their back "fixed" because they believe that something needs to be done to them by someone else to rid them of their pain. Some have a hard time accepting that their posture is poor and that it is the root cause of their problem. But that is a discussion for another day. Please stop implying that someone needs to protect orthopedic surgeons' reputations. Last, so sorry to hear about your father. Condolences to you and your family.

[@patriciavarga4084]

I was wondering if you ever consider the diets your patients eat? I’d be thrilled if you engaged with them about this. I was a patient to doctors in your field. If I hadn’t changed my diet I have no idea where I would be today. Three spinal injections over a year ago and I got worse. I changed my diet to keto/carnivore and have improved significantly. No one wants to address the ‘elephant in the room’. I was in medicine half of my life, I didn’t see my bosses combing over the literature for new studies. Not to argue just relaying what I didn’t see or hear.

[@goliathonscave9834]

@@patriciavarga4084 I got certified in weight loss with HcG several years ago (it is difficult to maintain a proper posture if you are overweight) but in the end, I realized that it was the ketogenic aspect of the diet that really counted. Since then I dived headfirst into the world of ketogenic/carnivore diets and all the medical literature around it. This eventually led me to the effects of ketogenic diets on all aspects of health, particularly diabetes, heart disease, and cancer. Now, diet is a large portion of what I teach my patients (and family and friends), and I spend almost as much time discussing the rationale and benefits of ketogenic/carnivore diets for weight loss and health as I do spine. The problem now is that my patient visits are frequently too long and I'm always behind for discussing topics that often go in one ear and out the other. Oh well. So yes, my practice is not just about spine procedures now, it is centered around posture control and ketogenic diets. Some patients are shocked that I am an MD and not a DO. I will go as far to say that if everybody adopted the ketogenic diet (which I believe works because it is how humans were designed to eat) and made it a habit to maintain proper posture, not only would it decrease medical spending by magnitudes of Billions, people would commonly be living well over 100 and not be the decrepit, Alzheimerish cases so many late 80-year-olds are now.

[@kjones2008]

Maybe because he hears a lot from patients (like me) who see their Doctor, get referred to a surgeon for joint problems and have this kind of encounter: The first experience, “Don’t bend your arm, you’ll be back to see me for nerve surgery when it gets bad enough.” Exit stage left. His nurse, who had the same issue, gave me a great deal more management help than the Doc bothered to give. The second experience, “Yep, here’s your cortisone shot, here’s a PT to visit, you’ll be back for bone surgery when your weakness gets bad enough.” I still haven’t had those surgeries. Yes, one Doctor used PT as a way to push off surgery. But, both men had only one ultimate tool, their scalpel. This is one of those “But Not All (Insert Choice Here) are bad!” But there’s enough that give the industry a bad name, and the entire system is rigged to perpetuate our current problems. Too many of us have to seek our own fixes. I’m glad your patients have you, most of us do not.

[@patriciavarga4084]

@@goliathonscave9834 great news! Now if only more docs would do the same… ah, but in a perfect world…. Thanks for letting me know. I dropped my success at a recent visit. Maybe he will start to think about it. The corporations that ‘run’ the medical field are a significant problem.

[@Homer19521]

Not surprised that people get that impression about you.

[@60Airflyte]

This title is disappointing. I don’t think I’ll watch this video because of it. It makes me feel like I’m being manipulated. I do enjoy your other videos though and they’ve helped me a lot. I’m sorry you lost your dad. I lost my mom to a stroke as well. I pray your family finds comfort in all the good memories.

[@Ladynipchick2]

I feel the same way.. Matt had helped me, but I do feel his attitude to surgery is unnecessarily negative. There are times when it really is needed, and it could cause a lot of unnecessary suffering to insist that it isn't.. Just my 2 cents.

[@albeklik8055]

Surgeons gotta make money just like the football players just like In america Or in the world?😂

[@Gypseygirls]

All scammers anyway..❤

[@dc-wp8oc]

The only helping most health care professionals do, is helping themselves to your bank account and to your healthcare insurance payouts. The swallowing sounds detract from your presentation.

[@13c11a]

I just discovered your channel and don't want to see you get tossed, but you are definitely wanting to sit in judgment of people who can hurt you. Why? Teach what you teach and don't criticize others. If you keep lobbing lopsided semi-insults at people who are in a position to harm your career, sooner or later they will. You should ask someone you trust to watch this video with the sound turned off--and hide the title. Your smirks and grins belie your claims that you don't think surgeons are bad people. It comes through clearly that you hold them in contempt. Nobody is gunning for you. You are the one who has painted a bullseye on your own forehead. If and when the day comes that you are yanked and the income from the channel stops, don't claim innocence. It won't seem funny then, and you may never get your channel back. I am deeply sorry to hear about your father. My deepest condolences to you and your family.

[@Exodus26.13Pi]

Not half as bad as master electeitions.