Are Relics DEAD? - Kabam breaks 11 month silence

[@ContestChampion]

Huge shout out to Kabam Crashed for the update about Relics. If I get the chance to ask Crashed more questions, what kind of stuff would you be interested in hearing about?

[@dokkirzandramas]

The state of the AQ store please, it feels so nonsensical that there is incremental price increases for multiple purchases when it offers 1/4 what the BG store does but the BG store has fixed prices for its items.

[@TheAyvid80]

BG.. Relics & Strikers were already a thing of the past the Asia/Chinese server before MCOC went Kabam. Can you do some invetgative story Asia/Pacific/Chinese players got a lot of compensation before jumping to global

[@ContestChampion]

@@TheAyvid80 yes Kabam had a gear system on the Chinese version of MCOC, but to my knowledge, that didn't include strikers. The gear system was quite a bit different than what we have with Relics today. It would be fun to revisit how that gear system looked. Maybe I'll dig up some old screenshots one day

[@gregmckee2772]

Why can’t we flesh out relics and build on them in tandem with actual champion releases??? Not to F players over why hasn’t kabam made relics part of defense (aka making fights harder and making us spend more to advance)????

[@ContestOfNoobs]

They to busy making realm of champions 2 😂

[@juffjaff]

I think people enjoy these conversations because you're articulate , interesting and you don't ramble. Keep it up!

[@baddreams123451]

I still enjoy Rich the rambler too

[@BigSlim4]

Reasonable glaze

[@kenlavictor2526]

Brian is definitely the best speaker of all the KZbinrs.

[@TCGexclusive]

The problem when they introduced relics is that they were scared to make them powerful right off the bat because of how people would react. So instead they made them slightly underpowered and people just kind of disregarded them for a while or even straight up didn’t like them.

[@bhavya2974]

Eventually they have to launch new relics because champions are more relics are less,it's very tough to decide between champion that who should get the high rarity relic and who will be ok with just a 3*.

[@FrostDzNzMCOC]

Personally, I'm happy with how relics turned out. Yes, there were problems throughout the rollout and several pitfalls that needed to be addressed, like the cost for switching, whether relics were impacting the volume of our regularly scheduled monthly rewards, and how they would impact the increasing complexity of the game, but it feels like Kabam avoided most of those in the end. Most people think of them as useless, that theyre just combo extenders, or that they're just an annoyance Kabam keeps trying to force us to use in quests with the relic-based nodes in story or even incursions. To me, they've been a bit of a godsend. The combo extender portion is great, but the effects some have when paired properly really make a difference. Like the black panther relic, which helped to make relying on Jabari Panther as my best skill champ so much more bearable. Or the storm relic helping extend my window of attack on storm pyramid x thanks to the the extended prowess and unblockable duration. Or Mr Sinister's self bleed circumventing the need for an opponent to place a bleed on my champs to activate certain skills. Or the ant man relic helping to get that porker popper train rolling with spider-ham in cases of bad rng or a need to stack em on as fast as I can. Or the juggernaut relic making manthing playable and has saved me a ton of AQ items. The scarlet witch relic increasing the dmg I can put out with Mordo and Dragon Man. The iron fist relic turning heavy chaining into a limit break for mystic champs. The ghost rider relic speeding up the slow roast that is taking Kindred into attack. Ms Marvel turning Nova into a budget adam warlock. The list goes on. Theres been so many times I've gone back to the relics page and wished that there were more available combinations. Like a skill version of Mr Sinister that I can abuse for Elsa. Or a mystic version of wolverine that I can slap on manthing, or wwbn. Or that the extra effects for named combinations could be expanded to more champs. Or that certain things could be tweaked so benefits would effect other champs. Like does Wanda's blessing of amplification rune work for Wong, who casts spells not blessings? Do the 2099 relic extra effects count for Punk and 2099? And you aren't wrong about the language they used and it implying that there are or will be other types of relics. Even when you check the relic page, or for anyone else who remembers the initial communications they had, it seems like battle casts were just 1 form of relic that Kabam had planned on presenting.

[@blood_sausage9620]

Thanks for that write up? You touched on relics making players playable, and some making champs even more amazing ie the piggy with antman relic, what are some more powerful combinations similar to venom relic on venom?

[@chitrakbanerjee00001]

I think 1 relic per month could be a healthy pace...that way we get 2 relics per class over a year..also more availability of relic shards should go along fine with that idea

[@yoitsmr.v2603]

Strikers are fun they definitely help with Combos and they do actually give you Good buffs too. I think that they have the chance to make relics of characters not in the game or alternate versions of champions. For example marvel zombies imagine they were in the game but just as relics and there’s so many other unique relics they could add they could change them to gold idk lol but they have potential

[@luisfernandoperez8850]

I think what they should do with the relics is fuse them with the synergies. These are two mechanics that are largely forgotten by Kabam today, but they are essential mechanics in the game itself. What I would do is that each relic would have a certain number of spaces to put a synergy, for example, the Venom relic would maintain what it does but these spaces would be added that I say, the 3-star Venom would have a space for a common synergy (the common synergies would be those that all champions have and that do not greatly benefit them, for example those of romance, friends, enemies, allies, rivals, etc.), the 4-star Venom would have two spaces for common synergies, The 5-star one would have a space for a common synergy and a space for a unique synergy (unique synergies are all those synergies that give extra benefits to the champions within their kit, for example Angela's with Odin, Agent Venom with Scorpion, etc. But to give more possibilities to the champions themselves I would make it not only their synergies that they have, but also all those that they share with other characters, since some of them do not have the base synergy themselves, as in the case of Agent Venom and Scorpion, since Agent Venom does not have it in its base synergies but Scorpion having it would be enabled for Agent Venom). And the 6-star Venom would have two slots for unique synergies. Of course this would have to be balanced since perhaps there are reasons that its base kit is very good and if we add the synergies they could be very strong, but in the end in a normal quest we can bring all these advantages anyway; This being more than anything an improvement for game modes in which synergies do not work, giving the opportunity to champions that only work with synergies in all modes without excluding them, not to mention that we would once again give relevance to a mechanic that is left behind. very much left aside by Kabam, so much that they don't even show them in the Deep Dives. And with this perhaps they could also give that defensive approach to the relics without the need for the Stricker to be active by the defender, but the latter is just an extra point since here they would have to regulate this very well, but on the other hand I don't see him losing from the attack.

[@Mediocritus]

There was a forum post a while back where Kabam Miike identified the struggle they face for Relics to bring value to the game whilst improving champions but not introducing new abilities which would involve testing/balancing and the risk of making champions overpowered. At that time I suggested new relics could simply provide existing synergies to associated champions. For instance, adding the Red Hulk relic to Domino gives her the Code Red Revelations synergy. Synergies as they are currently in the game have lost value since BGs. Adding synergies via Relics would improve champs without adding new abilities, wouldn’t require additional testing (since they are already tested), are already created, and I think they would be very desirable chase items for the community.

[@goagulant9503]

I love this idea but it could also absolutely be game breaking. They would need to really cherry pick which synergies they give out in this fashion. Overall its a good idea cuz it still requires less "effort" on their end to make work cuz the synergies exist already.

[@DeepThought420]

Outside of extending the combo most relics seem pretty useless to me

[@eddielarose7285]

I think that’s why they mention the most useful relics of black widow and venom, because well thought out relics really do enhance the target champs, like black cat and venom, because those champs are significantly better with the relics

[@redfox3334]

There are so many little interactions that can help some Champs in big ways. Like with the Valkyrie relic on a Nick Fury, you can hit into the opponents block and get some fury buffs to pause his tactical advantage charges when you are still on the decoy life.

[@ericmills9839]

@@eddielarose7285Angela with Thor rips as well.

[@Olivia-f8l]

Lots of champs get way better with relics

[@Ryzard]

IMO that's a good thing.

[@lasergod]

i'd certainly prefer the champ design team to continue focusing on making new champs as cool/unique as possible and doing reworks/buffs/etc over making new relics. however - given that they pretty much CAN'T remove relics from the game at this point - if they just leave the state of relics as it is right now, it will constrain their ability to evolve the game. i already feel occasionally annoyed by having to juggle relics on/off champs when playing around with different champs in aq/aw/solo quests/incursions. any new game modes/content that encourages use of different champs would only make this more annoying. not sure where they go from here. make new relics more basic/straightforward? allow some limited "sharing" of relics across different champions?

[@SlightlyMental]

Apply for the position again BG

[@tenta151pus]

that look when bg says they have a connection in the comics

[@adammiller7218]

I think relic desire is almost solely based on roster. For example, I’m sure now that most have a 7 star Guardian, the want for a 5 or 6 star hulkbuster relic is up substantially. Only specific relics are wanted when we have specific champs. Which after all the time has passed, we have a good idea of all the relic best use champs. And I still don’t think that’s enough to make the majority spend on them, which would make the time invested not as valuable as other projects.

[@Ryzard]

And if they incentivized relics, it would just be by making them dummy op. As is, it's almost impossible to efficiently grind relics at high levels for most casual players, especially when the other rewards are cheaper and much more worthwhile to get - Like 1000 6* shards being cheaper than 100 relic 6* shards, etc.

[@ldbrock]

i know it’s completely just a skill issue on my end but half the time i just end up hitting the relic when i’m mid combo or dashing back and screw myself lol

[@danceboyish]

That's not a problem for KZbinrs most of them use IPad.

[@wadehoward6970]

@ContestChampion We need a bald cap relic, that allows you to put a bald cap on champs of any class, and bonus stats if that champ is already bald.

[@ogsoto787]

Legend has it that BG actually played mcoc bases

[@gregmckee2772]

I took a 2+ year break and came back to relics existing. (My break ended 1 month ago). Now I am hunting relics amd like how they interact offensively. I wish there were more but man how complex this game has become must make it very difficult to add ANYTHING new! Kabam seems to have taken some good steps while I was away

[@Mushruums]

I have every relic maxed out now 3*, 4*, 5*, 6* and just have tons of cats and ore expiring in stash. Need something new

[@prez823]

I think it would be really cool if they introduced item relics that allowed champs related to the item to equip it and players could select a synergy to use in game modes like BGs. An example could be Mjolnir and could be equipped to any Thor related character. Would reinvigorate the synergy system and a lot of synergies make bad champs good or good champs great.

[@blood_sausage9620]

Great idea but apparently reusing existing combos and giving them certain properties is already too much for the team

[@CasuallyHenry]

I'd say the problem is that they're overcomplicating the Relics. First thing we want from relics is the striker function. Their best use is extending our combos and stunning the defender. They should start by creating Relics without any stats or effects just so we can have enough relics to equip on most of our champions. That way we can make sure to have all the champions we use have relics equipped for quests and nodes that require relics. It's pretty annoying having to constantly switch which champion has a relic just for case of having a relic on them and then having to remember that I moved the relic and which champ has which relic now. Basically, to expedite the relic creating process and increase their quantity to match our functioning roster, model Relics to only shoot out a striker, do some dmg, and put the defender into a stun as they leave, and don't bother adding additional stats and effects that will burden the designers to actually learn, in debt, about the game they're designing.

[@Ryzard]

lmao real

[@Cris.S.]

In short: Kabam doesn't have the manpower with the knowledge to design and release new relics that are good and also balanced.

[@worstnightmare4298]

I'm an f2p player who returned after 2 years, currently on my way to thronebreaker and I'm very scared of these relic crystals. The reason I've left the game in the first place was because I had trouble acquiring catalysts, iso-8 and gold to level-up and rank-up more than 5 champions. Things aren't that great even after I returned. Just the thought of opening the relic crystals I got and leveling up those champions is exhausting. All my relic crystals are still in the crystal vault. Maybe one day I'll muster up the courage to open them 💀

[@Ryzard]

Eyup. TBH just open them, I barely even bother with my relics. They mostly have independent levels and all but at least early on aren't super expensive, I just toss stuff into them as it expires.

[@deanb1679]

I just bought the relic bundle on July 4th. I like them. The Black Widow Relic has made my Black Cat crazy good and one of my fav champs to play right now.

[@profhoffsmeanmom1384]

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[@Goo.Bitty.73]

I havent opened a relic crystal in months at this point, i consistently forget about them

[@Ryzard]

Yep. I never even get any shards. New relics would be pointless if I never get any.

[@yours_truely]

Just add very basic 3/4* relics as range extenders so that we don't have to keep reassigning.

[@NicJ27]

I wish the acquisition for relics was a dungeon of sorts for that champion relic A Hulk themed adventure to unlock his relic would be so much more memorable; have the re-run levels increase in difficulty so you earn the stronger rareities and repeat The game needs more story specific and lore based content and relics are a very simple way of rewarding people for exploring a specific characters comic I want to go “into the quantum realm” to earn a 6* Antman relic, as an example

[@christophersengelmann3620]

Are there plans to update the champs in the 7* Incursion and Loyalty crystals? Thanks BG, you are the best.

[@mattdelcore3514]

Outside of extending my combo, I have never felt a relic. Still hoarding shards for now though haha

[@joerapp2676]

I enjoy the relics and hope they continue to improve them going forward.

[@wyntresnephew8552]

they should just add relics with simple abilities or whatever because most people realistically don't use them for their abilities. its the depth they provide in combat by creating new openings and by extending the combos that make them so valuable and I guarantee you that is why the community has come around to them.

[@Realcallmeog]

when we get new relics i hope we get a relic that works with ultron

[@balensyamend5404]

I really like the idea of a striker on the attackers but if you think about it deeply you can also make defensive relics for attackers for example if you got clipped by a light intercept and you threw the relic the relic would execute a reversal similar to that of patriot in case of basic attacks, or disrupting special attacks completely but for projectiles some mechanics similar to autoblock or bouncing back the projectile with would be perfect. The usage of this relic should be limited to once per fight. I don’t think this is that hard if kabam really wants to do it

[@mcocsha]

I don’t care much about relics, it’s the contents we need more of it Most importantly game should run smoothly

[@BigBlueOx]

I think a lot of the disdain/indifference about relics at the beginning is related to the quality of the gameplay the last 20 or so months. The AI reaction time, hit boxes that don’t hit and skipped/delayed player inputs really put a dampener on a new gameplay mechanism being added when the basics are so messed up. It really doesn’t help that relics are super unreliable as a result of this often getting parried, block mid combo, and even dex’d now. I really wish the team would spend time on the fight mechanic basics before revisiting this topic, because of the actual gameplay felt smoother, it’d help make relics more exciting again.

[@Ryzard]

WAAIT SO THAT WASN'T MY BRAIN/PHONE??? I knew stuff felt wonky but I thought it was just me...

[@peternicholas3719]

The minute they took cost away from equipping and unequipping relics, I was much more open to them

[@mr.venøm911]

BG should have a podcast

[@richardromero6722]

Relics have their uses. We are definitely due for a few new ones by now. Kabam keeps including Relic Reliquary packs in the big sale events. I’m ok with them leaving the OG champs from the beginning not being updated and rather start building a few new relics for each class.

[@Able6669]

Relics definitely aren’t dead, with the benefits Relics bring to chaining Combos, I couldn’t imagine doing Champ Rotations without the Relics anymore LoL

[@jaydivine1769]

Bg coming out nonstop with the videos! Keep them coming

[@writewyk]

It’s the extra special attack with a guaranteed stun that made me love them. I think relics were an awesome addition to the game.

[@DaGrimmOneOfficial]

in all fairness they have been behind in buffing champs also, so maybe their main focus is deathless versions, but does anyone remember the wish crystal promise?

[@Ryzard]

What was the wish crystal promise? Also... Deathless is stupid tbh, I've yet to get one, and I stopped caring after the first or second.

[@chrislarson8903]

We need more relics! I have many champs that need a relic still. Since I already have all the available relics in the lower rarities, I only open 6 star relic crystals now...tired of getting the same dupes in the lower rarities.

[@Dan_MCoC]

@ContestChampion i used my relics everywhere, i love that system

[@djrbrown1]

They have been blaming limited and tapped resources for issues for years. They are behind on champion buffs promised, and other features. Even in his comment, Crash teased something else thats coming to divert attention. No updates and them still not knowing what they want to do with relics for a year is ridiculous. Especially when they are required for end game boss fights, never mind them still pushing them in big offers. The excuses are beyond old now.

[@geo4145]

I think relics are great, I love them. Their benefits might not be the biggest but they definitely help! Like black widow on black cat, thor on pretty much any cosmic, etc. They just need to add more lol the selection pool is disappointingly, and annoyingly small.

[@akilmonkey8039]

I’d subscribe to a 24/7 podcast of this guy ngl

[@dsl7008]

relics shouldve been actual RELIC items from marvel, that can be activated during quests that give a bit of utility if you don't have any options, e.g thors hammer that can give shock immunity or magetos helmet that can give immmity to reverse controls for a fight or something like that

[@willmilone]

Kabam should let relics usable for any champion. That would be more useful than create new relics.

[@blood_sausage9620]

If a champ doesn't apply bleed like Hulking, but has the venom relic, does he apply bleeds via the relic? It says bleed vulnerability but I don't see any bleeds.

[@peternicholas3719]

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I wouldn't mind if they slowed down the production of new champs by 50%. I've been playing this game since like 2017, and I've learned so many champions. I'm getting sick of learning the new ones, mostly the crazy defenders. Now with relics on the other hand, the fact that you can't use multiple 6-star Gambit relics for example on multiple champs means that there is a bit of a serious shortage. I would like new relics to come to the game sooner than later.

[@nikolozka1]

New relics probably coming wit "THE BASE"...

[@scarcoh5238]

Figure out the alloys and embers economy. I'm not buying them with glory or tokens. But there was a time I was selling embers because i had no alloys and now I don't have any of either. And if I can't rank relics, I lose interest entirely. They just get bound to a champ and then they are done.

[@JackHerer-dt1xs]

Why brain Why? I Just want to know what happend? Not the whole history of relics.

[@Nemeschy1981]

Why are more people not being trained? That's a fine excuse in the short term, but to stand on that crutch for years is silly.

[@snarfatron]

My only "complaint" about relics is it seems like kabam knows what you want/need and just refuses to give it to you. For example I've been wanting a captain marvel relic of the 5 or 6 quality for a longest time and have yet to pull it I do however have a sig 80 gamora relic

[@TheLiquidheat2643]

I like the relics and the stun they bring

[@victorleetapia562]

Relics should not be class specified. Their use and significance in the game would greatly increase as soon as they remove their class restrictions. Imagine a Hyperion with the Scarlet Witch relic? Nick Fury with a Venom relic. Hyperion, Torch, Sunspot, Doom, or any other incinerate champion with the Sentinel relic.

[@Ryzard]

Exactly.

[@derekdominguez1432]

Honestly should have made them similar to the mods used in Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes, completely interchangeable, flat rates to every character of certain stats.

[@BanonOmus]

They should have launched new relics right before 4th of July… they would have sold so much more

[@gogata95]

In the beginning I absolutely hated the relics, after all that time, i just don't like them and ignore them, just bind them randomly to the champs I use for a bonus stun and thats it. for the last 4 years the new champs are a f* car manual, don't have neither the time nor the enthusiasm to spend on the relics. I gave them a shot - I read some of them and made no sense - 1. mutant the one that boosts your regeneration, there are like 5 champs that could benefit from that, but they are useless in 99% of the content; gambit - lets be honest no one cares about 1% more resistance 2. science - the ant man boosts your power stings - there is just portk that relies on them, noone uses void sp.2 for the power sting ... ; the hulk one is cool 3. winter soldier - decreases energy resistance when 95% of the class are using fists and kicks .., there was the other one that literally says puts a "buff that does not do anything :D" (ye 1 champ can use that wow amazing, guess what you get a 3/4/5/6proba /7 of it how many black cats do you use ?) - absolute joke; p.s. valks one is the same 4. tech - hulkbuster actually useful ; sentinel - absolute joke 5. cosmic - thor - boosts buffs (which most cosmic champs rely on) so top tier, venom mainly attribure is bleed vulnerability, where the cosmic class has 4 champs that could apply such - medusa maybe used once a year vs a robot(bleed immune) boss; venompool, he doesnt rely on the bleeds for his dmg, carnage a forgoren champ and Venom where it is vert useful so overall useless 6 mystic - ghost rider - there are a few degen champs in that class so a well tough relic; jugs - mainly used for jugs which is a top tier champ and fits well, has some uses in about 5 more champs so it is good; iron fist - who cares about lowering potency when you will nullify or stagger the buffs anyway .. So overall if you dont have jugger, hulkling, death guilly, hulkbuster,venom, hulk(he doesn't even need it btw his damage is enough on its own) or valkery, they are just a bonus stun and for the ppl that will say stop crying give a solution here it is mutant - 1 relic for DoT and 1 for Sp. attacks dmg boost science - 1 to increase debuff potence and 1 to increase debuff duration skill - 1 to increse DoT dmg or duration and 1 to increase crit rating cosmic - 1 to increase buff duration/potency and 1 for sp. attack dmg mystic -1` for sp attacks and 1 to increase nul/stagger/fate seal/etc duration tech - 1 to buff their debuffs and 1 to give them some bonus when an immunity is triggered - regen hp or increase armour up potency or smth like that

[@Jordan-mregroodergrind]

I like relics i mean couldn’t they just have something way simpler because really the combo extension is all that really matter most of the time I’d be fine with the relic with no abilities quite literally just a combo extension device

[@brbamigo1337]

His profile picture is Superior Kang from 7.4!!!

[@nachog8777]

“Lack of resources” has always been an excuse Kabam gives. So… hire more people? They certainly make enough money off the whales.

[@justinholland6132]

The silliest thing ever lol. It’s not that easy u not only have to pay them but actually find someone worth paying. You’ve never ran a business in ur life

[@nachog8777]

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[@nachog8777]

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[@nachog8777]

@@justinholland6132 hey BG, stop deleting my comments you’re not slick.

[@nachog8777]

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[@daisysdazzlers5258]

Relics are fine as they are, useful, but not game changing. What I would like to see is the permanent Daily Super Event. I think the game feels it will go backwards when this finishes. It should be permanent.

[@Ryzard]

You were absolutely correct

[@niepodam9148]

Kabam crashed said on one of the previous livestream that they are working on something, that would revolutionize mcoc. I wonder if it's live pvp mode...

[@Ryzard]

I feel like that would fkn suck lmao

[@sscott3521]

Nice pull BG. The news every one wants to know.

[@Ryzard]

In terms of your final question - Reworks. Deathless is meaningless to me. I know I will never actually get one that is on my level in terms of game progress without either spending money or a lot of resources and time, and often I just have missed one piece, so I just don't even bother looking at the others. New champions are cool, but they also only come after a long time, in terms of reaching me, and for the last few years, only one or two have been desirable in terms of their actual character - appearance, comic origin, etc. I don't know who many even are without googling lmao. Shathura is the first I'm interested in, but with no real way to guarentee her outside having the roster and time to get #1 in arcade, L. Relics are cool and all, but I get zero shards to actually get any outside luck or events. So I don't really care about them. I've got like 4 dupes of a single one, and a few assorted, but none that I "want" or aspire to, because I don't even look at the relic crystals. There is no worthwhile way to get the shards that wouldn't be resources better spent on other things. The amount I can get is so insignificant and gradual that I've opened like 10 7*s to a single 6* relic crystal.

[@nickpop4344]

after just equipping a awakened 6* r3 hulk buster relic to my guardian, no they are not dead

[@Azeial]

The striker mrchanic is great. The relic... *yawn. 90% of the time completely unnoticable improvement reom having one and takes insane amount of gold i have better use for

[@Olivia-f8l]

But there’s a lot of champs that are way better with relics lol

[@Ryzard]

@@Olivia-f8l Good for them. Even more reason for there never to be new relics, because they will effect how champions are made, or even make champs that are underpowered specifically to force a relic that makes them op.

[@EffinGuy]

The Relics out now take too long to get anyways... increase the frequency of all rarities then start introducing new ones

[@Ryzard]

real

[@simonpomeroy30]

Another great video BG good work

[@Ryzard]

As a more casual player, screw relics in all honesty. I'm sure they're lovely, but they bog down other rewards and are AGONIZINGLY slow to get. The idea of the potential of there being new meta relics out all the time alongside new meta champions would be HORRIFYING. I'm already constantly hurting for resources as it is. Again, they are fine. But if they become something that is required for champs to be good, or for certain quest lines (like modifiers for "takes 90% less damage but 500% from relics!") I would lose it. I'm fine with them staying as flashy combo extenders, tbh. As long as Kabam gives you an absolutely abysmally tiny amount of reason to use them, resources to put into them, and shards to pull on them, I won't really be interested. Like, I have tons of relic stuff rotting in my overflow until I need to use it as it expires, because I barely have relics to even invest into. In terms of your final question - Reworks. Deathless is meaningless to me. I know I will never actually get one that is on my level in terms of game progress without either spending money or a lot of resources and time, and often I just have missed one piece, so I just don't even bother looking at the others. New champions are cool, but they also only come after a long time, in terms of reaching me, and for the last few years, only one or two have been desirable in terms of their actual character - appearance, comic origin, etc. I don't know who many even are without googling lmao. Shathura is the first I'm interested in, but with no real way to guarentee her outside having the roster and time to get #1 in arcade, L. Relics are cool and all, but I get zero shards to actually get any outside luck or events. So I don't really care about them. I've got like 4 dupes of a single one, and a few assorted, but none that I "want" or aspire to, because I don't even look at the relic crystals. There is no worthwhile way to get the shards that wouldn't be resources better spent on other things. The amount I can get is so insignificant and gradual that I've opened like 10 7*s to a single 6* relic crystal.

[@littlebitbrooks11]

I’ll be honest I don’t see my relic make much of a difference so I don’t bother to rank em and spend gold .. it would be nice to see them REALLY change the champ

[@NunoGloop69]

I think they made them too underpowered at first, and made to fit specifically NON meta champions. Now they feel like a requirement and there simply arent enough to fit all your favorite champs. We dont need 250+ relics, just 2-3 more characters per class and I think we’d be good

[@jerryharder3399]

I think two new champs a month is way too much. Slow down to one champ a month and work on buffing the champs that need it to balance them more. I do like relics so I hope they add more of them I think they have been a good addition without breaking it.

[@KamrenMCOC]

Only thing i like about relics is the striker. Helps for rotations for example cgr or doom

[@grahmdionable]

why dont you bring up their failure rate when using?

[@bdawg923]

Tbh I still don't care about relics. In day to day content I use champs without relics. I only put them on if I have to (like act 8 requiring strikers). Otherwise I hate them, they're distracting, relic rewards suck, I don't want to waste resources on them, I sell every relic iso and catalyst I get, and I wish they just removed relics altogether. Absolutely trash feature.

[@miguel_jq]

Apply for kabam Bg, they will 100% give you the position

[@Le_Firefly]

Looking at how healthy iBom is (not over-tuned but can absolutely smash + has defender potential depending on metas) and his inputs on him, I agree. Maybe paralleling Dork Lessons path but in design instead?

[@candyman8394]

Relic iso needs to be more abundant

[@vernondesousa]

1x more Relic from each class will help. But if they want to say the team is busy with champ work or NEW work... Then have less issues. Doesn't sit well with me that they have so many bugs or glitches or nerfs, and yet say they are working on new things when relics are clearly unfinished. I'm just saying a bit of balance would be nice. And broadening the game is great, but maybe look at things we've been asking for for ages, like no/less bugs.... Instead of new and shiny problems 😊

[@Ryzard]

It's the "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle" approach. Keep adding new money sinks. Ignore the ones that don't make enough money.

[@messiah6672]

Bald man ask about solo crystal buff like that’s a super need or maybe a store or something

[@cavemanoog]

Nobody cares but I still don't use relics because the placement of the striker button gets me killed lmao. I was really hoping we'd get a new type of relic that wasn't a striker and didn't have the button!

[@datedwizard989]

My biggest problem with relics at release was that we were what 8 years into the game & being given resources for 3* relics with the odd 4* relic and this was just after 7* champs had been released. Still not the biggest fan of relics but at least they do something beside extend the combo with a stun. It sounds like they made relics which was badly received, saw it wasn’t profitable with people not buying bundles with relic resources included & decided it wasn’t sustainable to make new relics & moved onto other things. Between relics, new champs, reworks & deathless champs I’d like the order of priority to be reworks, reworks, new champs, reworks, don’t care about deathless champs or relics give me a Groot rework.

[@galactus4ever398]

DOA, period..

[@metaljake89]

Kabams fear of making over powered interactions led them to underwhlem the actual power of them and their effects.. If you intentionally go out your way to make something underwhelming out of fear, how can you then expect excitement and mlrw importantly, spend REAL MONEY on them... They made them irrelevant, power level wise all by themselves. It's all ab havjg. Access to a striker at this point and rarity for speed of access to said striker

[@spid3rman90]

I would like them to stop adding new characters and focus on the roster. There are so many champions that need love. Hawkeye, symbiote spiderman, iron patriot, black bolt, cw black panther, etc. They don't all need to be top-tier just playable. Yeah, there are 300 characters, but how many aren't being used? Let's just be real. I like relics and loving the deathless champions.

[@Doobee80]

I would prefer they get rid of the relics. Only use them because you have to when they make nodes that require them.

[@stuff339]

My personal opinion on relics is they're just there. I don't really care, I don't feel they add anything to the game. I don't get anything from them other than a combo extension every now and then. In fact they're sometimes a downer, like quest rewards. I'd rather see crystal shards than relic shards as relics just aren't that exciting to open. And relic based nodes are just irritating sometimes. Like that one were you gain next to no power unless you use a striker

[@REDTHURSDAYDOG]

I PREFER THE STRIKER VS THE BLUE HOLOGRAM VERSION WHOS WITH ME?

[@TheMattJacks]

Most relics are made for like 1 to 3 champs. Most do nothing for any other champ. They need to focus on popular champs, not give me something to "ENHANCE" Red Gobbler.

[@erikcu]

I’d prefer 1 new champ , 1 new relic per month roll out. I don’t need 2 new champs per month

[@macmanko7880]

what are relics?

[@mitchelherald3271]

Deathless Champion Design Kit Add Deathless in front of name Alter/Change color scheme of champion Copy and Paste original kit Change debuff (optional) Wow. Bet that took a lot of labor resources to get done. 😂😂😂 Seriously though, I’d rather get “bad” relics, even if it’s every 2-3 months, than none at all, because the difference between the best and worst isn’t enough to matter. But, let’s be real for a minute and admit that they aren’t good enough to generate revenue and that’s why relics are aptly named.

[@randyhale8517]

Give us 2 star relics.... Most champs and relic combos are just nice for connecting combos and that's it 🤷

[@felix-antoinemorin8784]

I stopped playing because of relics

[@mikeholmanlovesyou]

08:30 perfect example of why a small vocal minority shouldn't be the voice of the entire community for everything.

[@YTracer9]

I haaaate we have to spend units to just change mastery set up … also we need more revives and potions how about that ? As for Relics I don’t like them even how the look above the champions on the roster just to much for me