Are Retro Games Really Better Than Modern Games?

[@ModernVintageGamer]

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[@davidmorin2818]

RGT is you with hair

[@Mewsashi-cz9fo]

Gaming has become mainstream and it's the killer of creativity and innovation when you catter to normies like netflix and tv series show, that's where we are headed , just look at the meddling and bastardization of hollywood hacks being introduced in game awards show, those hacks failed movie creators like kojima that ended up in gaming because they didn't have the chops to be a movie director, that's the final nail in the coffin.

[@Mewsashi-cz9fo]

Gaming becoming mainstream was the biggest mistake of all.

[@typerightseesight]

Halo infinite for PC is pretty laid back. Not gonna lie 😂

[@dennisramos9665]

❤

[@Tharealkeeters]

The nice thing about older games is that they were short enough that you came back to them all the time. These longer, huge, never ending games don’t really do that for me. I just get burnt out by them and then I’m done with them because it’s just too much of a commitment to dive back in.

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

Mario and Luigi Brothership definitely overstayed it's welcome and felt bloated. I was expecting a 30 hour experience, not 50+.

[@blacklist241]

Absolutely correct. I'm an older gamer who turned 40 this year retro is more my thing nowadays for the pick up and play factor. I don't want to commit to 40+ hours in a game anymore. Just want to have some fun and go about my business.

[@josevanz7654]

Yeah, the same here! For me, 10, 15 hour is the limit. Now I'm playing (again) ocarina of time on Switch Online, a perfect game, and it have about 15 hours of gameplay. Perfection!

[@neoconnor4395]

True. I recently played Last of Us, Cyberpunk and Red Dead Redemption side by side and they're all great games but Last of Us had an edge because the first was only about 15 hours long. The perfect length to a videogame. Whereas the others took about that long just to get started. I honestly didn't know how to appropriately play Cyberpunk until about 30 hours in.

[@blacklist241]

@@neoconnor4395 Steam clocked my Cyberpunk playtime at 63 hours before the 2.0 version release, I didn't even finish the game. I wanted to start over but cant bring myself to do it simply because of the time commitment.

[@jeromeroark4637]

Yes retro games are better

[@dauntae24]

Go play Rad Racer. I’m be in my sim rig playing ACC.

[@wingsta9613]

Yes

[@Matucks]

I started playing video games when I was 6 in 1986 when my older brother had an Atari 2600. I've seen the evolution of games throughout the decades. Back then our fascination was all about graphics and how real they were looking. We had tons of fun games that created mainstream worldwide recognizable characters and not only Mario and Sonic but many others. Retro games were so inspirational it branched off to clothing, merchandise, toys, movies, tv shows, etc. Modern games don't have that impact at all. So much modern games copy the past. I don't hate modern games but honestly they lack having a fun experience and become frustrating fast. Where I do love modern games are when it comes to the racing genre and simulations. Those are better being as close to real as possible and no old tech could of pulled that off however games like Crusin USA, Daytona USA, OutRun, Need for Speed, are all classics that stand on their own thrones. I love Retro more than modern 100%, more fun, creative, and great variety. I can go on and on but I'll stop here. Oh btw when it came to girls, when they came by my house we always played games they loved it. Lots of girls owned SEGA and Nintendo consoles back then.

[@georgewatkins88]

Yeah good times.

[@rickster7373]

%1000 yeah retro games are better then modern games

[@joeyisabsb1]

If you truly believe that then you're just an old man who yells at clouds. You act like Elden Ring, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Astrobot, Baldurs Gate 3, a lot of the indie scene, doesn't exist. Id play Elden Ring over any retro game any day and I was born in the 80s and love retro games.

[@Gravy1255]

It's 50/50

[@robertw31968]

Why can't someone enjoy older games better than the newer ones? Personally the newer ones aren't as good, because most of the time they don't cone on the disk you buy. You have to download something. On older games every thing came om the disk or cartridge that you bought. Also as expensive as they are now they should come on the disk.

[@joeyisabsb1]

​@@robertw31968 Thats a different topic entirely and I agree with you, I want the whole game on a disk. That being said it has nothing to do with the game itself. The issue is when ppl think of retro they think of the great games and forget that the NES, SNES, Genesis all had SO MANY garbage games. When they think of the present they think of all the bad games or the story heavy ones that don't feel like games, they dont think of the MANY amazing games (look at the indie scene, its amazing!). Nostalgia is blinding everyone.

[@Miller_Lite]

The problem with retro game is the amount of great games available compared to modern games but regardless there are plenty modern games.

[@waynetemplar2183]

Are Retro Games Really Better Than Modern Games? As far as I'm concerned the answer is "yes" - in my opinion Super Metroid represents the pinnacle of video gaming.

[@ZonicMirage]

I would say it's half-and-half. There are tons of games worth playing from either era. For all intents and purposes though, there's a lot of crap to wade through from both eras. Online storefronts nowadays definitely provide quantity over quality; at least Steam has refunds.

[@ahmedp8009]

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: Yeeeees.

[@Orange_Swirl]

It really depends on the specific games. Bubsy 3D IS Retro but I certainly wouldn't call it better than Sonic X Shadow Generations, or even the most recently released Bubsy game. And I certainly wouldn't call Concord, a modern game, better than Quake III Arena or the first Unreal Tournament. Quality games can come from any developer, at any period of time.

[@samuraicollector2903]

This question will never have an answer, it is not like they are better, the games that existed when you where a kid until you become an adult are the games that will get you nostalgic and you will enjoy the most. So, no, retro games or modern games are not better, depends on each person.

[@jonathanrendon8579]

I do play modern games but majority of my gaming time is spent with games that are 20+ years old...I just dig the older style I suppose.

[@michaelcullinane3924]

Of course they are. People play Super Mario Bros 1 years later. People don't play Cyberpunk 30 days later. You tell me.

[@EduFirenze]

People don't play concord a week later 😂

[@annonjames2438]

@@EduFirenzedamn 😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@viviorko]

I have not played SMB in 30 years. Why would you want to play that ancient game?

[@viviorko]

@@EduFirenze, that is 100% true.

[@Just_Shaun]

Because cyberpunk was not a good game… Let’s have the same argument but with Super Mario Oddysey and arcade Donkey Kong… People don’t play Donkey Kong 30 days later. You tell me.

[@babypluto636]

bought a steam deck in January and barely played my ps5 much this year it really changed my perception.Just been playing old gems from the ps2 era mostly. Max Payne fight for New York bully manhunt nba street jet li rise to honor the list goes on because of the big library of classics.Retro games were made with so much love and passion back then you can’t really convince me it’s just nostalgia I just don’t get those vibes from most newer games just feels like I’m not missing out on anything too crazy with recent games.this generation just really opened my eyes to how good we had it back then not just with gaming but entertainment as a whole

[@SaeedMobayed]

I play both all the time, there are just as many good games now as retro, the difference is the big mainstream games of the past were very very good, whereas now you have to go a bit deep to find those crazy good hits, but there are plenty of them all around

[@heylilg6070]

I love the gameboy Advance and the N64

[@kdkseven]

100% YES!!! I don't really play anything past the GameCube/GameBoy Advance/XBox 360 era (other than Nintendo). That was the golden decade of video games for me. The last 'modern' video game bought was Control.

[@Gravy1255]

It's modern it came out in like 2020

[@JEFFALITY]

For me it's preference. I've just accepted that the 4th Generation is MY Generation and now it's all I explore and play. Works really well for me personally.

[@blacklist241]

Correct 16bit era is king in my opinion.

[@jae42619]

PS1 Square ... 3 banger mainline Final Fantasy games in one generation. Tons of original games mixed in too ... Xenogears, FFT, Vagrant Story, Brave Fencer Musashi, Parasite Eve and so on. I miss when companies could output stuff like that. Lots of good mainline stuff in one generation plus more creative & quirky projects throughout too.

[@marshmallowmark]

A big issue is that the more advanced systems get nowadays, it takes exponentially more manpower to take advantage of everything a new console has to offer. And this is money studios no longer want to spend. As for whats "better", i certainly think we've perfected genres nowadays, its just a matter of preference. I'd prefer playing Shredders Revenge over Turtles in Time. I prefer Tekken 8 over Tekken 3.

[@SacrificAbominat]

I think proportionately there's just as many good games to bad games now as there were in the past. The problem is that we're focusing on these established AAA studios that have lost their way over the years and because we're seeing the quality of their games dip we think the quality of the entire industry is dropping. The reality is that newer developers are usually the ones that are more likely to take risks and these established studios are more likely to stagnate. Not to mention they're more likely to follow trends, both monetarily and social, and a lot of AAA studios are copying each other's homework instead of innovating. Also I agree that indie games are a double edged sword. There's a lot of creativity coming from these studios, but there's also a lot of people taking advantage of how easy it is to get games onto the market now that they're flooding it with trash asset flip games in order to make a quick buck. Do your research before you buy either AAA or inide games. Though I will say keep a bit of an open mind to indie games as well just because a game is a 6 out of 10 doesn't mean there isn't a cool idea they were trying to mess around with. Maybe that developer's next game will be better, so you might want to consider supporting them if the idea was good but had a flawed execution. Unfortunately when it comes to AAA games a 6 out of 10 is usually more of a sign of laziness, so I'd definitely give them less leeway personally.

[@Chaoitcme]

Wait, RGT has hair? I always have seen him with a hat on and just assumed he always wore a hat to hide that he is bald.

[@Qwerty10254]

Plot twist: he put on a wig just for this video

[@NULLZER0112]

i still remember the first time i saw Final Fantasy X on the PS2. I was completely awestruck, it was like nothing id ever seen or heard in my life. now i see new games and im jaded and dont care. You can ride the fence on this one, but im going to say flat out, Gaming was better before. Id say about when the ps4 gen launched things changed in a negative way, and have fallen ever since. the 90s/00s were the golden age of gaming

[@MaddyPup19450]

People were wowed by 2D to 3D but how many 64 and PS1 games are truly worth playing today? For someone without nostalgia for the era or interest in gaming history?

[@robertw31968]

It might be nostalgia I'm not sure, but to me Ocarina of Time is still the best game of all time. I know that's just one N64 game, but it's my favorite.

[@BoolXor]

Nearly every N64 game is a pretty high quality 3D game and PS1's shear variety of games is an insane experience. If you're looking for something interesting on the PS1, I'd say try Jade Cocoon.

[@MaddyPup19450]

@@robertw31968 it's a great game but that's one game, and it actually plays better on the 3DS and GameCube (imo)

[@MaddyPup19450]

@@BoolXor I'll check it out thank you! I am more referencing a title like Tomb Raider or Resident Evil, which are to me unquestionably better to play on subsequent console generations than the original.

[@askwhy3659]

This is a difficult question to answer, not least because what counts as retro is so broad. Retro can mean anything from a very basic 2D game from more than half a century ago to a triple-A title from the PS3 generation, the latter being closer to our modern games than those from way back. Broadly speaking, I’d put it this way: games today are demonstrably better in many aspects thanks to modern technology, but I’d strongly argue that gaming itself was better back then. When I say gaming was better, I mean the experience of gaming felt much more meaningful and enjoyable. It’s hard to impress us nowadays, even with photo-realistic games that have taken almost a decade to complete. Back then, we were much more tolerant as gamers. The things I could tolerate from games in the past would drive me crazy today. These days, games have to be nearly perfect. I even managed to play and enjoy games that were complete technical messes.

[@AndrewPresnal]

As someone who can't play games often, here is the main difference for me. It's not about modern and retro. A lot of newer games, when i want to play, requires updating my Xbox and then updating the game, and by the time that's over it has already eaten into a bulk of my playtime. Retro/Modern-retro, I can turn on my console and then start playing

[@robertw31968]

In my opinion that's why retro games are better. They are all there on the disk or cartridge.

[@Warrenmitchum]

Here’s the real reason why. Your on KZbin after work and next thing you know it’s bed time and your actually tired. And when you try to play your eyes start hurting and you knock out with controller in hand.

[@AndrewPresnal]

@Warrenmitchum ser, you are being too aggressively relatable

[@Warrenmitchum]

@@AndrewPresnal well I work 12 hours night shift 7 days a week. Trust me I know.

[@jmac79ers]

Nu uhh, tried to play defender on my 2600 yesterday, Needed a 26gb update. But yes, it is annoying. That and releasing unfinished garbage

[@yourwindow9455]

I love all eras! I'm from Sega Genesis era and, now, in2024, I'm here, almost every week and weekend playing my Playstation. Tks God and my papa and mama for all.

[@BLAKCRYSTALL]

Yes they are no doubt about it Games were games back then Not live service crap

[@mrpyrostorm3165]

I want to say yes, older games are better. I say that because when graphics were limited devs had to hook you on story or gameplay or both. These days it just feels like a competition between graphics designers with not much substance.

[@Jordonarkyn]

Me and my family have ps 5’s, series x, and a couple switches. We play the switch all the time. And the others here and there. It got boring for all of us for the most part. I went out and bought a Wii and a n64 with a bunch of games. My kids are paying those wayyyyy more. It’s crazy

[@jmsena]

Are they really? That’s crazy. Kids preferences never lie.

[@MrRaiPlays]

Replayability will be the decider of this question imo Games used to be designed to be replayed often as the next release was at least a year away. Nowadays games want to hold you down forever so you can never leave and they overstay their welcome so much that when you're done you never go back

[@Bitdead]

Well ee still replay ganes that are 30 years old, will we be playing this years releases in 30 years? I dont think so personally.

[@MrRaiPlays]

@Bitdead agreed

[@kamronlynch]

Yes, because modern games are boring. Not all of them.

[@buttafly58]

As a girl in the 90s that liked video games but had to rent them, the embarrassment I felt if a boy from my school saw me in the video game isle was a lot. Girls weren’t supposed to play video games and I felt that stereotype hard. It was a different time 😅

[@Monolithsoftninja]

Honestly I'd say for the most part yes but every once in a while we get something good

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

If you count retro as gamecube/ps2 then definitely

[@Gravy1255]

50/50. There are great retro and modern games.

[@Eliterubberduck]

Though I do think retro games are better than modern games, it's pretty unfair to modern AAA games because so few are made in a given year compared to any year prior to 2010. It's also a bit unfair because we're comparing 30 years of games to like 10 years of games (compounding with the previously stated fact of there being less games made recently), so it's going to be easier to flood the conversation with retro bangers. Modern AAA games look better and usually control better (or at least subscribe to a standard control scheme), but they start to feel like the same game and aren't as responsive. Modern AAA games are safe and stale while retro games were creative, unique, and risky. Indie games are the only space currently that try something really new or fresh.

[@mattb9664]

Yes and no- during the transition period of N64, PS1 (and Saturn) - essentially in every game you were fighting not only the CPU, but also the camera and the controls. The developers were still figuring out how the make 3D work in games, and even some of the beloved titles like 007 Goldeneye or 1080 Snowboarding are very frustrating to play at certain times in almost every level. Today's games have different annoyances..like in Jedi Order- all we really care about is wielding the light saber and using force powers....for some reason the developer thought it would be a good idea to shove a version of the Titanfall2 acrobatics engine into a Star Wars game 'just cause' in hopes of making it interesting. Despite having great graphics and sound, I still haven't played through Jedi Order because of how bored I get having to navigate with its acrobat simulator system. So I flip back over to my Switch, and will play on the NSO service games. These current AAA games are like 1 time experiences that you'll consume and never come back to...maybe you'll rewatch cutscenes on KZbin, but you won't come back to the game ever again because of the complexity.

[@jonthanechols6410]

I play some modern games, but honestly once we hit the Ps4/Xbox One era things really went downhill. Everything is digital, we don't really own our games, and it's all managed by updates and downloads. A sea of live service games and online stores disguised as games. To me, nothing beats physical media and simply putting a game into a console and just playing it. 360, GameCube, PS2, Dreamcast, 64. All my favorites. And the community that mods some of these systems is also very neat. I recently got my girlfriend a modded 3ds with hundreds of games on it, while also still able to play straight from the cartridge.

[@Y2Jerms]

Pretty much. Most games nowadays aren't even games. They're interactive movies.

[@Kartak965]

Or barley disguise online stores filled to the brim with micro transactions.

[@Y2Jerms]

@@Kartak965 very true

[@joeyisabsb1]

Sounds like you know nothing of the indie scene where games are better than ever.

[@Y2Jerms]

@@joeyisabsb1 no? Most of the indie games are actual games and not all quick time events, and choose your own endings.

[@namco003]

YES!! I've been gaming for 45 years, from black and white arcades, to the many home consoles, to my PC setup. I've witnessed BOTH arcade and console gaming industries rise and fall and rise again, to it's current failures. I've worked arcades the last 30 years and, it's similar to the arcades losing customers, due to game costs and home setups. People want to play at arcades, but are being discouraged. I plan on covering this on my channel, more from the arcade side of things. At the end of the day, it boils down to corporate BUSINESS practices. Companies follow MONEY PATTERNS, rather than finding out what people are interested in. They tell people what they SHOULD BE interested in, to capitalize on trends, then dump as much into the trend as possible and gain as much as they can until the next trend is out, then they dump any relationship to the current trend.

[@relinquishh]

Arcades were essentially the original microtransactions. Extremely scummy game design centered around trying to eat someone's quarters. Nowadays, a lot of games take away obvious conveniences that would normally be there in order to make people think they are making wise payments for conveniences. Arcades did something similar for their era: they would intentionally make the games insanely hard and bullshit in order to make people want to keep putting in quarters so they don't have to start over and risk not making it as far as they did. Now obviously the social aspect of arcades was fantastic, and there were definitely games that were designed more fairly or were fun to play co-op and such. However, the scumminess of arcades was one of the reasons people were so excited to be able to play arcade games on console.

[@ShreddingFinn]

I've said the same thing about music, entertainment follows culture, culture goes, entertainment goes as well

[@thecunninlynguist]

I'm an old man, so yes they are to me

[@neonsheep3358]

This makes me think about people who leave comments on trailers saying "tHiS lOoKs LiKe a Ps1 GaMe" and very obviously weren't there when PS1 was contemporary.

[@praisetheoak]

Retro games were made by nerds for nerds. Modern games are made by committee for a non-existent audience.

[@Talvos]

Modern games, even good ones, have too much padding. Some padding is explicit, but I think we've become so used to it that most will not consciously realize that even good features often pad out a product and subtract from the whole. Newer games are certainly massive and larger in scope, and the initial response can be quite positive- but once you've played enough games, I think it becomes desired to play a more focused product. Furthermore, the limitations of older games meant that putting in some features prevent other features from being present. This helped push the 'creative risk' that RGT mentioned, as a developer wanting to stand out needed to put more focus on that unique feature as the core part of the game instead of throwing it into a heap of hundreds of industry-standard mechanics.

[@raemdespairbringer]

The moment companies noticed they could charge extra fees for games in any way imaginable, the purpose of gaming started to distort

[@keness4768]

They're way more replayable. I've never felt like replaying the uncharted games, God of War, etc... they were fun enough in the moment, but that was it.

[@deshawzn79]

I didn't care for the Nintendo 64 I loved my Super Nintendo though.

[@MonsieurB_RPG]

Modern AAA gaming is like mainstream politicians nowadays: it's all appearance, no substance. As for modern indies, it's like outsiders politicians: it's hit or miss, depending of what you like.

[@Gravy1255]

Plenty of good modern AAA games. You just aren't playing them. Buying a ubisoft game for the 50th time isn't all AAA games

[@MBeezy815]

What about games like God of War 2018/Ragnarok? Those are masterpieces IMO...so there are some wonderful modern games floating around (even if those are the minority)

[@winstonsmith478]

Yes, for people like me who don't want to play highly involved, complex games. My types of games: horizontal and vertical shooters, Tetris, Crazy Taxi, Boulder Dash, etc.

[@dendostar5436]

Yes. Jesus Christ yes. Absolutely.

[@dustincaudill8550]

Retro games are better than modern games

[@kamronlynch]

Exactly

[@Japheigod]

Some retro games are better than modern games. However some modern games based on Classic franchises have exceeded the originals. Examples such as Ultra Street Fighter IV , Tekken 8 , Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart, Ridge Racer and others.

[@arcticridge]

most of those games are a few years old now though

[@Japheigod]

@@arcticridge They are still modern representations. What people fail to realize it is not a Modern game issue. It is games developed in the West that are failing. It always has been that way everyone has just failed to realize that the Japanese game market has been shrinking as far as development goes so less games. Most classic games are all Japanese developed and packaged as something else by an American Publisher.

[@arcticridge]

@@Japheigod seems like most japanese made games prioritize fun over pandering, but we don't know if those devs are being whipped to get those games out. Methinks they're being pushed harder than US devs but we just don't hear about it

[@Japheigod]

@@arcticridge I used to publish, plan, and distribute many titles. There is literally no Independent scene in Japan and not many smaller studios left. Those that do exist do work for larger Japanese companies who publish their titles. It is like how it was here in the 80''s-90's but instead of USA publishers. Japanese people are ethnocentric and do not like pandering or political statements in their media. They are after all a Constitutional Monarchy.

[@elmasheavy89]

Back then we had great game developers competing for the best game, and not the best grift. Today the suits who have no video game knowledge controlling stocks and dividends.

[@chennforajido]

Retro games are at least finished. Not incomplete like the modern ones

[@relinquishh]

Unfortunately this isn't always true. Many retro games, even top tier ones, were notoriously unfinished and/or rushed out the door. Things like Xenogears, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, and KOTOR 2 to name a few. Now obviously today's games are way more commonly released unfinished and unpolished, but a lot of that has to do with budget constraints. The cost of developing and polishing a game in the AAA space is so astronomically high these days that developers need to sell copies of the game to continue to fund the game being polished, resulting in games coming out too soon. Now of course, I'm not excusing it. It's just the unfortunate consequence of gamers having continually rising standards for polish and visual fidelity. Ultimately, gamers themselves are often as much to blame as the developers.

[@robertw31968]

I finally have beat you at something. I've been playing since 1982, 42 years lol. I was 14 when I bought my first Atari 2600.

[@gligarguy4010]

"Yes." Could've cut this video down to 1 second btw.

[@EmceeIV]

That sure would have been a fun video huh? I love 1 second videos....

[@TheSoliloquist]

I still don’t know whether or not I should go, go, power rangers. Retro. Duh. Way better. you had to be smart to make games back then. Now any dummy can do it.

[@brandonlee7382]

Maybe they should make old style games and put them in a collection for £70. So it could be 30 interesting old style games that are simple but very good just like the old days. It could include online aswell and loads of mini games to play against your friends.

[@gunsharck]

Sold! I’ll have some of that

[@lewisgrant7622]

They could but then that means they’d have to make something that’s actually good quality. Which they’re too lazy for

[@ImRickJamesB]

Before watching the video my opinion is yes

[@Aireck174]

Retro games are pure. A lot of games these days are half movie and half game. I like a few of them like Horizon but retro games are better.

[@morganmedrano920]

Game's were best Between the NES and somewhere around PS4. Game companies clearly rely on the fact that they can just patch a bad game later, and not every game will get the love that Cyberpunk got. Old Game's had to be good to sell to the masses. We would know if a game was worth buying before too many copies were sold.

[@SegaAidan]

the "modern" games I play are like 15 years old now lol (terraria)

[@Rodeorigo]

Three simple letters: Y. E. S.

[@charlesanderson533]

I'm a 35 year gamer myself retro and PC All the way

[@TheGorillafoot]

Yes. Yes. And. Also Yes.

[@alluringming]

Evertything from nintendo era all way to ps3 era had some of the best games in my opinion. Ps4 had some decent ones but i remember mostly my nintendo, super nintendo, gamecube, xbox, ps1, ps2, an dps3 packed with games i loved.

[@orcmansoso9970]

Yes! Yes they are. For the record, I did not even watch the video. Unnecessary really.

[@alphonsejohnson5601]

As a 24 year old, As much as I Love the modern kirby games(though im not a fan of star allies), I wish nintendo would give us a switch port of the kirby 20th anniversary game, Or a 33rd anniversary collection next year With more games and content added. I doubt the latter will happen because of the nintendo switch online but im still hoping for the former.

[@namco003]

I've been playing a lot of ROAD RASH II for Genesis lately, and those games were so unforgiving. Limitations and innovation is what made those games amazing. Gamers became jaded and greedy because they NEED NEED NEED that custom sticker with the funny meme on the right side of their tail light on the bike, and since old school games can't pay a microtransaction to do that, the game is considered BAD by todays standards? Nevermind the 15 to 20 fps, or sluggish controls. MUSIC and GAMEPLAY was top notch!

[@Stefan_Payne]

There is also another way to see it: Back in the old days, it was possible to innovate and create something completely fresh and new, that nobody seen before. Today, its a case of "been there, done that" and it depends more on how welll a Game is executed and how well stuff got combined into the game to make it fun (or not)... The Standards are also much higher due to that, so a mediocre game today would be the best of the best just 20 years ago...

[@skymeyer55]

I'm 42 I remember being blown away by the jump in graphics from nes to Sega Genesis. I just remember coming home and my dad had surprised be and bought a Sega Genesis. I just remember being so blown away by the graphics of Green Hill Zone on Sonic 1

[@Stefan_Payne]

Another thing to consider: According to Wikipedia Numbers, last year on Steam there were more game reeases than NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 *COMBINED* That is also an enormous problem that we not talk about, the sheer ammount of games made and thus its very hard to find the great games, because the pile of very bad games is orders of magnitudes larger these days! When you had to dig to 2-20kg of junk to find a great thing back in the day, its now 20 tons to dig through to find the same excitement. But it still exists, magic is still made, its just less obvious and depends on the mood and People...

[@EduFirenze]

Just saw a chart, between 1997 and 2010 was the lowest suic... rates in the US which coincidentally is the golden age of gaming

[@Riketorian]

I would be happy if they just started releasing something like map packs for retro games. I think rom hacks are awesome and I would pay for an official release of additional worlds in Mario Bros 3 for example.

[@EoR_2B4GOT10]

My problem with alot of modern games is that so many modern games are just not fun for the first 10 hours. Why would I put 20 hours into a game when I know I won't enjoy the first 10 and it's not garuntead that I will enjoy the rest. So many games nowadays are just enginerd with making the most amount of money and not how can we provide a proper fun expirience for our community. Not to say there are no modern games made with fun in mind. But there is a huge reason Astro Bot was celebrated like the second coming of jesus. It was just pure fun. No downside. We hadn't seen that from a first party Sony title in over 10 years

[@TheDarkVyers]

Yes, Retro games are better. I've been playing for 30 years. I've played just about every genre on every system. I've found myself going back to retro games these last 5 years (favorites and games I never got the chance to play). With my play time being 70% Retro and 30% Modern.

[@PropellerMarioBrothers2012]

Short Answer: Yes

[@MikeFeazell-g5x]

Yes retro gaming is more better in. My opinion Yeah 💯 bc am old school gamer

[@elmasheavy89]

Back the we had quality and quantity

[@jmsena]

My whole summer was 16 bit.

[@meatsloth333]

Astro bot is a great example of why retro games are the best. A 3D platformer is still just as fun today as it was back then. You don’t need 300 million dollar budgets, hyper realistic graphics, 60fps and 68 hours of cutscenes to be a good game. Just make it fun to play. Now I love both styles but the old games just have more replay value.

[@spacelion4763]

Yes. Here is the thing. I fire up a retro game and can immediately tell there was passion put into it. The focus was on making the best game possible. Developers (some of the time) and publishers (most of the time) have lost their way and the focus of modern games seems to be on everything but making the best game possible. Its simple really...it's all we want.

[@mr_m4613]

Modern games outside of Nintendo are barely even video games.

[@ps3inquisition441]

I’m in my mid 40s, seen it all. The leap from Atari to NES was massive, as was NES to Genesis, and so on. Then something like Doom came out and blew the doors off everything. That stuff doesn’t happen anymore.

[@stormkwan4376]

To answer ❓ question ⁉️ yes

[@cameronoverton4440]

The opening scene of metal of honor frontline on the OG Xbox will forever be a core memory… absolutely blew my 11 year old mind!

[@Japheigod]

In the Early 2000's development of a game ran me about $150,000 total for a decent Arcade title. Now it is not even feasible. Something like Ikaruga, SNK Vs Capcom, Metal Slug 4, Guilty Gear X, and even Marvel Vs Capcom 2 cost that much.

[@JTread2003]

I'm 21 and grew up with retro and modern games. Always loved both, but its something that alot of people my age don't care much about. Like I love playing old arcade machines and playing old consoles, most people my age probably would just say modern is better lol. The generational leaps were insane back then, I wish we still had jumps like that. PS5 is basically PS4 with better framerate

[@matthewa9911]

The past definitely was much more exciting time

[@Sakhi]

Nice job pumping out a 16 min video when you can just say "Yes" 😂 Just messing with ya

[@carloshernandesu]

Yes they are

[@Warrenmitchum]

It wasn’t that money came into it. It’s that more and more people joined the industry innovating with different ideas.

[@buchiklop110]

I don't have hard numbers, but I'm willing to bet the budget for Intergalactic is more than the budgets for every SNES, Genesis, and TG-16 game ever made combined.

[@MyAlteredSoul]

Retro games had to be simply fun and engaging. So, each game was more likely to either have something different that hooked you or use a known formula that draws you in. Each console generation was a huge difference in a relatively short lifespan. Now both console and games have incremental changes.

[@neoconnor4395]

I honestly blame a lot of this on Sony hemogeny. I was talking about this very thing with my mom not too long ago - when I was a kid there were entire new genres popping up. We had fighting games, first person shooters, RPG's and survival horror games showing up for the first time ever - then Sony took over, and they've more or less taken everything they had up to that point, released GTA, and sold us GTA clones where you're a guy on a screen running around shooting everything, and they release new ones for every new updated Playstation VCR thingy. When Nintendo ruled the world there were more interesting creative games being released.

[@Trontasia]

Maybe games being longer is a 'quality VS. quantity' thing. That popped in my head one day; longer could be causing quantity more than quality. My grandpa actually played Video Games; back then to the time he died. Back then he had an Amiga computer with games like Red Storm Rising, SimEarth. Later he had PS1 with similar games like Soviet Strike, Nuclear Strike, Battle Stations. He was good at fixing too like a controller, game systems.

[@slopesgameroom]

In short.... No! In my opinion 90% of all games modern and retro eventually start to age. Heck you can look at some hugely popular PS3 and even PS4 era games and see how new games in the same genre have refined the experience. However, with that said, what makes this topic interesting is that when you play a game that still holds up several generations later... You just found the definition of a classic! Classic arcade games like Donkey Kong, Space Invaders and Pac-Man are in my opinion the perfect example of perfect games. Games that had one goal back into day and they still manage to hold up in this day and age! Games of all generations have these titles (they are few and far between as they always have been) but they are still being released to this day! Tl;dR a great game is a great regardless of when it came out Quality vid mate

[@Kira-ih6xe]

One thing that really bugs me about modern games is the emphasis on achievements, unlockables and level grinding in games that don’t need it. It’s so meta and all about dopamine and creating addiction loops (this of course ties into money again). The game may suck, but it sure feels great to unlock an achievement doesn’t it. Or to put it another way, you paid for the game and now you have to work for it to enjoy it, level up and unlock features that should be there from the get go. Video game design has just gotten skewed.