Are Shotguns in Black Ops 6 Any Good? (Marine SP and ASG-89 Impressions)

[@scoutgolf5282]

I hope we see the Olympia return, or heck honestly I have wanted the world at war double barrel to return it was so fun. What guns do you want to see?

[@minh7177]

i hope m1911 come back

[@hispaniccoyote]

@@scoutgolf5282 I'm down for another mag fed pump shotty.

[@scoutgolf5282]

@@hispaniccoyotewell Cold War got two shotguns over it’s life so hopefully a double barrel and some like a streetsweeper

[@supersloth762]

@@scoutgolf52823 if you count the marshalls? I think that’s the name of the double barrel pistol shotguns

[@scoutgolf5282]

@@supersloth762 kinda, but I want full length double barrels. Hopefully we get one

[@darthscourgeis3057]

Marine SP is way worse actually than during the beta. One shot are very inconsistant.

[@The-Spanish-Inquisition490]

Thats not because of the shotgun, my man.... 😂 if it takes 2-3 shots.... it's because they popped a stim. Most high-level players mandatoraly use stims before they feel like a conflict is about to start. Stims are broken in BO6 because they don't just heal you... they over heal you, giving you massive health increase. Definitely somthing that needs a hard nerf but all the youtubers with no life who are already prestige 7 will cry and that all Triarch gives AF about sadly.

[@GHOSTOFEIGHT]

I feel like when I’m running and trying to use the shotgun there’s input lag.

[@Goomie]

@GHOSTOFEIGHT there definitely is something clunky about it that I haven't been able to really pin point yet. Felt something similar on the other shotgun as well.

[@maxvader1000]

I’m like 75% sure it’s the sprint to fire time that needs adjustment and is why it feels awful, sometimes I’ve clicked the trigger and nothing happens. I remember it was the same in Cold War people would use cooking frags to get around it

[@loadedexcrement]

It's gotta be omni sprint never really ending, or at least taking way longer than MW3 to stop after you stop pressing forward. In MW3 I could release w and it would stop sprinting instantly, but in BO6 if I release w then tap it again It starts sprinting again and same for if I decide to strafe or backpedal. It's all sprintout time every time you pull the trigger

[@GHOSTOFEIGHT]

@@Goomie Glad I'm not the only one. Thanks for replying.

[@GHOSTOFEIGHT]

@@maxvader1000 Exactly the same thing happens to me.

[@Bruno-RR1]

Shotguns feel awful in this game in my opinion because of omnimovement. Its a pain in the ass to play with auto sprint on and even if you turn it off there will still be times where you stop running, move your stick to the right and instead of moving right and be ready to shoot, your character SPRINTS to the right (without you pressing L3/Shift) and if you try to shoot you have to wait the sprint to fire time. Its terrible.

[@-_-DatDude]

Shotguns in BO6 aren't run n' gun weapons. They're camping/ambush weapons. Thats what it comes down to Bruno.

[@redhunter1535]

Agree, to me the point of shoguns is to run and be aggressive, but here thanks to the slow ass sprint to fire you're forced to camp basically

[@dacheese111]

@@redhunter1535 Which AR/SMG nerds will then complain about, which ensures shotguns stay shit.

[@dacheese111]

Its like that on purpose because they're afraid to make shotguns good. it's why there's no sprint to fire grip on them. intentionally clunky and skill punishing.

[@SoLunxr]

​@@dacheese111Ur wrong

[@PickNNNPop]

I want mw2 power shotguns 😬😬😬😬

[@Olinke]

Or even MWII 😰🥶

[@KAACHOW]

@@Olinkelockwood 300 full range attachments

[@ADoovy]

Mw2019 shotguns 0.0

[@inadayofglory]

Tremendous stopping power (5 headshots in wz needed)

[@arcticowl1091]

Yeah we don't need another year of cheese with the like with cockwood 300

[@inconspicuous7464]

I hope they buff the Marine SP to be able to ohk in mid range while in ADS, give it the reclaimer 18 body multipliers and ads damage to balance it out.

[@Elesarr]

I haven’t felt good with the shotguns at all tbh. Maybe I just haven’t found the right build but it feels really bad even up close

[@hispaniccoyote]

I really like the consistent 2 shots past the osk range. It feels a lot better than the Lockwood 680 on MW3.

[@glassconference9088]

Nah bro the SP sucks. You go into firing range right up to the cover about 10m from the dummy. It doesn’t one shot even when you ADS. Takes about 4-5 shots to kill sometimes. The spread is garbage hip or ads. Sprint to fire is garbage. It’s an inconsistent shotgun and I think it’s intentional. You def can’t run and gun like in mw3 and 2. You have to sprint a lot less around corners and the rapid fire attachment is useless.

[@frrrfrrr9177]

I’m not of fan of the slow rate of fire for both. Even with the rapid fire attachment it barely makes a difference. The semi auto goes from 188 to 198 it’s basically useless, that should be buffed to like 230-250

[@Unrealenting]

That weird pickup delay after sprinting throws me off, despite kitting it for sprint to fire, still have this bulky odd pickup

[@nickblood7080]

I think this game should get the good old Ithaca stakeout 37. Other guns that were around at the time that i hope they bring in. Beretta 92fs 357 magnum 1911 Uzi 9mm P90 Remington hunting rifle M60 Original barret 50 I think was out in the 80’s I don’t know. Lots of stuff and man does cod need to get back to real guns and real names.

[@jubess]

still my go too shotgun guy. thanks for the uploads! been wathcing you since verdansk.

[@WTSPod]

always loved shotguns since block ops 1&2

[@andreatacchi6324]

Sure the marine xp is good but is not better than the 6 xm4 sweats that sbm puts against me every single game, hopefully we'll get more chill players soon. Please show us your best attachments video soon im completely lost on this new shotty ,I end up rushing someone and awkwardly jump in his face without being able to shoot while he dropshots me.

[@Goomie]

@@andreatacchi6324 gonna try to have one this coming week!

[@jondavis3427]

The m4 sweats are od

[@frrrfrrr9177]

The ASG-89 is really good with slugs on it, set the build up for hipfire. The slugs are really accurate and go in a straight line till around 10m so you can treat it like a normal buck shot. it is very strong. And this gun was super easy to level up just go into face off. I got 95 kills with it in face off.

[@TomAnomalo]

Brecci

[@dazombiekilla9990]

I concur on this, just walking around like a juggernaut with extended mag always ready to fire makes it really nasty to fight against, I got an 82 kill face off match too lol

[@EXTIINCT_]

Slugs on the pump while hip firing is NASTY on face off. Faces are magnets for slugs

[@clownworld4655]

Feeling kinda meh about the shotguns in this game as someone who normally mains them

[@archflamingo9156]

honestly hope we get the r9-0 back cuz i want a fire firing auto shotgun again

[@Avdlanor]

Glad you're enjoying the game Goomie. I appreciate the time and research you put into your shotgun centric videos. Very entertaining, keep it up!

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

The asg sounds like the expedite12 if it was actually good. Semi auto but not super spammy

[@dirty_lil_rat]

It feels like bo3 brecci

[@RANDALLcod4]

I am working on the Marine SP to make a good hipfire build. Hoping to make something that reminds me of the W1200 from cod4.

[@redhunter1535]

Hip firing sucks you better go aiming

[@glassconference9088]

Don’t bother. It still sucks. Ads is your best bet

[@supersai4198]

I miss ther MW2 Shotguns

[@redhunter1535]

Sprint to fire still sucks sadly, the point of a shotgun is to run and be aggressive what they were thinking?

[@caleb7068]

The only way to use the shotguns is walking around you can’t sprint at all; they have to fix them

[@dirty_lil_rat]

Try sliding more, i dont know if it removes the delay, or just shortens it but it helps

[@CrapsGoodxD]

What do you think about melee in this gwme? I feel like they nerfed it far too hard, you now get stunned very hard whenever you take any damage while knife is out

[@Deadleaf01]

Try pairing them with flash grenades and use the wildcard that gives you extra tactical so you can be extra annoying and push up on the enemy.

[@bencezavarko7312]

Sadly it's not what I expected. The campaign was amazing and the zombies looks to be good but the multiplayer is frustrating which is strange because I enjoyed the beta very much. The maps aren't good and the camo challenges are horrible and I love doing camos. Aiming is also weird compared to the beta because I couldn't hit anything with the XM4 so for now the shotguns are the only thing that bring some kind of joy to the game. No aftermarket parts, weekly challenges, armory. I hope most of this will change with the coming seasons

[@thecardinal3537]

Marine sp one of the worst I’ve ever used

[@Tiduspeco]

Do you know if there's any way to disable the after-sprint delay? Like when you let go of the movement key for a split second to change from sprinting to walking if you use sprint toggle. It was an option in the beta but for some reason has been removed from the full game. The way it is now, if you try to change your movement speed this way and don't let off they movement key for long enough, you just resume sprinting so it makes using shotguns hipfire very difficult.

[@carlobrigante4764]

Turn off sprint assist. Turn off any sprint assist settings.

[@Tiduspeco]

@@carlobrigante4764 They're all off and it's still doing it

[@carlobrigante4764]

@@Tiduspeco you just gotta really lay off the stick. Like slow it down a bit. I had the same problem. I never ads so much I my life lol

[@Tiduspeco]

@carlobrigante4764 you shouldn't have to though. I'm on keyboard and this have never been a problem in any other cod. Even the beta had an option to turn it off

[@carlobrigante4764]

@@Tiduspeco i hear u. So the setting is gone all together?

[@shortstarwars2437]

No the lag time in pulling rhe trigger qnd the gun actually going off is insane

[@kingcolga266]

Shotguns have a weird delay when you fire them too. They don’t fire right away.

[@eclipse3037]

how many pellets and is slugs better

[@dillondentice3274]

The slugs don’t even work on the Marine SP. I have them on and it doesn’t even work. It doesn’t fire a slug it’s just standard buckshot.

[@Cheshire9k]

Why would they make the USAS12 semi auto?! Should have been full auto and had a different proper semi auto one.

[@AlastorTheNPDemon]

I'm disappointed that the USAS is a semi-auto civilian variant. May as well choose a different gun.

[@thecardinal3537]

Hitmarker machine, slow fire rate, way to slow it’s awful

[@felipeterrazas317]

I want dual shot guns again that was fun.

[@codmw289]

hmmm I might actually buy this game because of the USAS

[@Jawbrah93]

I want my spas12!!!!

[@MostCedric]

The slug is OP.

[@kpglo]

Can you drop a best one shot class on the marine sp

[@thecardinal3537]

Can’t even one shot at 10m

[@ManinTidyWhities]

205 brecci, but now in a rooftop defender skin

[@redhunter1535]

Bit disappointed that there are only 2 shotguns. Where is the 2 shots one?

[@HenryQuach]

This is cap. The Marine SP has poor consistency. No matter the attachment combo, it struggles to secure consistent one-hit kills even with Slugs. There will be times that I can reach the full 9 meters of its effective range, but other times, it struggles, and if you don't get that one-hit kill, then good luck with the follow-up shot. It has far more downsides than positives that I can't say that I recommend it in its current state. Terrible sprint-to-fire time aside (which isn't mitigated with attachments either), it is simply slow, and *feels* like it doesn't have enough strength to compete with even ARs let alone SMGs in its effective range.

[@cdtheone82]

I want that Gallo shotgun

[@wandericon]

I want to see good shotguns in warzone... 4-5 shotguns , Variants to use... Like in wZ1❤... But... Its a FreAktivision...

[@wandericon]

Sorry , i am not from England/USa and my English is too bad...

[@kennyhjort6929]

Bo6 are a pc game now. Pc have a big advantage over console. Aim assist are shit

[@gummyboots]

The SP feels more like a shotgun for defense oriented play, where as the ASG is more for aggressive offense oriented play. best way to rank them up is Strike modes and Free-For-All IMO.

[@laaa210]

Bro both shotguns are so bad. Its embarrassing

[@kiprasking8581]

@@laaa210 Just wait till you see the snipers, will make you reconsider the meaning of the word ''Bad''

[@Xfaction1111]

Jakal and Shotty/sniper player here lol 😂

[@sorraw1]

Bring back the Argus!

[@josefvissarionovitchstalin8284]

How do you aim sideways, I can't do it on controller.

[@jondavis3427]

You need tac laser

[@355scaper]

I absolutely despise the marine, it feels like such a slow clunky piece of dog shit its like im running around with a sniper rifle that can only kill out to a few feet

[@_-_-_L_-_-_]

Yeah nothing as slick as the old bo2 870 or ksg

[@Razgriz_Ace18]

Hey Goomie, the Rook safehouse in Campaign there's legit a fully modeled Olympia just hanging above door to the room where the mission board is. The first map you're on in this video is also that safehouse, but I don't know if it's there too.

[@Razgriz_Ace18]

I've also now spotted a Mosin Nagant and two 1911s in a display case on the Vault MP map.

[@AngelMedina31986]

I want the cold war shotguns definitely had better power one shot kill all the time

[@Flipblop56]

I can already tell this game is gonna nerf anything that isn’t a smg or ar. Disappointing as usual.

[@metz2083]

How do you place the crosshair on this zoom?

[@metz2083]

I can't aim like this, if someone can help me please

[@josefvissarionovitchstalin8284]

I can't either

[@ledingdong1492]

You can melt people in nuketown with that semi auto shotgun

[@kiprasking8581]

Marine is pretty fun. Snipers suck so bad in this game, not sure why they gutted them so badly

[@redhunter1535]

They nerfed them now? The bolt action one was broken in the beta but now it seems to get a bit too much hit markers

[@kiprasking8581]

@@redhunter1535 There's a laser that adds delay to the idle sway you get right at aiming down sights, that helps a ton. Snipers felt weak in the beta but leveling them now feels worse, like they forgot to give them more ads reducing mods

[@conor-_C]

do we have build

[@Goomie]

@conor-_C soon! Ill make a video for my build soon.

[@1124spawn]

no one talk about the slugs we need to gatekeep them rn

[@jondavis3427]

Are they good?

[@1124spawn]

@@jondavis3427 broken as hell on the semi auto

[@brunovitoriano9586]

Didn’t show the load out

[@αεεμ-ω5σ]

Nice

[@thecardinal3537]

They are absolutely terrible

[@edespitia9605]

I like that the pump action shotgun has a pretty slow ads, spring to fire,bad hip fire,bad pump speed, but has a really good one shot range while. Seems fair

[@Scroolewse]

It's not bad, very usable. But not in any way competitive with SMGs

[@KAACHOW]

@@ScroolewseThey hate making shotguns good because they’re “easy to use”. You trade ease of use for a lack of range, thus needing to close the distance. Just sucks their mobility is just above average

[@knrz2562]

@@KAACHOWisz there a way to make a balanced shotgun attachment build?!’

[@KAACHOW]

@@knrz2562 don’t understand what you’re asking

[@knrz2562]

@@KAACHOW the class loadout are there any good attachments that work good on shotgunsz?!’

[@King_Jakolas]

They nerfed the marine again today and its just garbage Why does treyarch hate shot guns

[@farzadf17]

I've stopped playing cod because I don't have the time anymore, but still watch your videos. All the best to you brother, your videos are dope.

[@xXFlameHaze92Xx]

both shotguns without strangulators are useless

[@ryanmccluan7467]

Been waiting all day for this video. Won’t play the game if the shotguns r trash

[@TomAnomalo]

3:41 BRECCI

[@omarsabeur9039]

I tried the campaign for an hour and got bored , im gonna try multiplayer tomorrow, i hope it feels better than the beta.

[@ricflair8867]

The Shotguns are trash

[@mikeychainsaw9760]

MP is watered down

[@Dooby0071]

How on earht are there only 2 shotguns. Or 3? Pathetic.

[@MrBlackopspwnr]

Slugs are insane on the marine sp. Just throw them on and play like you normally would. The semi shotgun is so bad. Feels like you’re shooting marshmallows at people. Gonna unlock diamond on it then never use again

[@noneyabusiness2779]

Kids cracked on aderall ruin cod multiplayer

[@LordAngelus]

Because they're better than you? Cope I guess.

[@ObsidianCDL]

Honestly I hope they suck because they take no skill at all.

[@AS.Se7en]

You are slow

[@blueviper3861]

BO6 plays like bambi on ice the game sucks MW3 is, clear

[@Vinseenit]

The attachments in this game are sooooo boring

[@Drebin-8427]

First

[@Drebin-8427]

All right, got that out of the way. Based on their beta performance (haven't finished the video yet) I predict that the weapons when min/maxed will feel like 'secondaries': not dookie but not truly good enough to make you the MVP consistently.

[@boss-is5fz]

Marine seems to be so overpoewered like this one shot range is ridiculous

[@carlobrigante4764]

You crazy. Its usable but no where near op

[@boss-is5fz]

@@carlobrigante4764 Well go play strike moshpit then LMAO

[@boss-is5fz]

@@carlobrigante4764 Hate those shotgun campers just like he described it , kill it's one shot range and give it better SPTF

[@thunderslug1066]

​@@boss-is5fzGame shouldn't be balanced around tiny maps when most of them are normal sized

[@carlobrigante4764]

​@@boss-is5fz nah. Range is king.

[@knrz2562]

Some shotgunsz that might come to,bo6:possibly!.Franchi SPAS-12:,Pancor Jackhammer:,AAI CAWS(!😮💉⏱️🔫💪🏽!

[@redhunter1535]

They will add new weapons?

[@knrz2562]

@@redhunter1535 in the future during season1-wz!

[@burken18]

so he clearly dosent know whats he is talking about

[@blackberuang]

NERF IT DOWN! TRASH

[@jondavis3427]

Good joke

[@AS.Se7en]

What are you yapping about