Are The Red Sox TRADING Their TOP Prospect (Marcelo Mayer)!?

[@etrin5714]

Now you're speaking my language. These prospects are trade chips that you use to get better in 2025. We have too many young LH bats and need elite pitching. Trade them before they make their MLB debut. I prefer proven MLB talent over unproven prospects. PS The imagery with the players is really cool. Hopefully, it helps people understand the logjam we have and why we need to make trades.

[@mvpedey15]

I agree to an extent, but imagine if Boston still had Kopech? I think sometimes the team needs to exert some restraint. Patience. Understanding the exact needs helps, having a crystal ball is nice too. I don't know enough about Mayer to know how good he will be. Campbell too. But I agree with you, that I want proven talent. I would send a package to Texas for Semien in a heartbeat. That opens up other trade possibilities and secures 2b. Maybe Story's dealt for a healthier option.

[@tsid160]

If Craig Breslow is going to acquire a young, "top of the rotation starter" by trade this off season, he is going to have to be willing to part ways with one of their top "under 25 year old" talents ... Casas ? Anthony ? Campbell ? Teel ? Duran ? Rafaela ? I'd say these six players are likely untouchable ... With pitching being in relatively short supply and heavily sought after by most MLB teams, an overpay also will need to be in place for Breslow to get this accomplished ... Realistically I don't see John Henry giving Breslow the "green light" in signing Max Fried who will be turning 31 on January 18th ... Henry has been burned too much financially on 30 plus year old starters to go this route again anytime soon ... That leaves Marcelo Meyer along with Wilyer Abreu as the primary trade pieces to bring in a young pitching stud ... With pitching being in relatively short supply and heavily sought after by most MLB teams, an overpay also will need to be in place for Breslow to get this accomplished ...

[@PaulSchwartz-zk1pj]

Duran is 28

[@tsid160]

@@PaulSchwartz-zk1pj Forgot that Duran is 28 years old ... However, I think you will agree that he plays and runs like he is in his early twenties ...

[@teetoo3790]

No way I trade Mayer. Trust the process. Red Sox in 2026.

[@budsox5578]

Trevor Story is done. Please please stop telling me he has anything left. Young players like Mayer being injured every year is a huge red flag. Honestly, that may already hurt his trade value. Move Casas for a real starting pitcher. Move Devers to first/DH.

[@PieterVanderWerf-p6v]

Trading Yoshida opens up a ton of possibilities, doesn't it?

[@redseatradio]

Yep

[@PaulSchwartz-zk1pj]

He needs to go. Paying a fortune for no defense and a spray hitter.

[@jameshokans3834]

I agree with you completely. Do not trade this prospect unless absolutely necessary.

[@mvpedey15]

You pretty much hit on everything. There's 1,001 IFs. Let me make 3 points... 1. Roman in LF, Abreu in RF, Mayer at SS, Campbell at 2b, and Teel at C means growing pains and years until Boston makes the postseason. That doesn't fit in with Boston's plans to reach the postseason in 25. 2. Max Fried has been signing 1 year deals with Atlanta since 2019. Why is it a given that he's leaving the Braves now? Has Max or the team said he's leaving? What I like is his world series experience and his pick off move. He's hard to steal on. I think he'd be a solid addition, but is he still considered elite? He's not lights out. 3. I actually think Rafaela would make good trade bait, so maybe you can whip up a video about that. My reasoning is... - I want Duran to play CF - Story is fine at SS and when hurt, the team can ease Mayer in, use Hamilton, whatever - I think Rafaela needs too much help at the plate. Granted Rafaela could do this or that, but I'm mostly curious if people felt his stock rose or dropped this year, based on the hope and expectation (vs actuals). How much will fans miss him, could Boston be better without him. Alright, I'll leave it there before I set the needle on the record player to repeat.

[@neilturner2980]

Duran proved himself in CF, everyone forgetting Cedanne can play a solid shortstop

[@tommcintyre8391]

You're right about spending the money - there are some free agent pitching options that they could realistically get, that would transform this team. If they match the top offers for Max Fried, I think they win him because of his friend Lucas Giolito. And the same approach might then work to get Jack Flaherty to sign, though the friendship there might not be as strong. Now you have a rotation with those three and Houck and Bello, that's solid 1 through 5. Fitts and Priester are starting depth in the minors, and you're adding whoever is healthy from Hendriks, Crawford, Criswell, and Whitlock to your bullpen, which should improve it. If they could then add free agent Tanner Scott, that puts them over the top. All of that could be done without a single trade. Now you have too many position players, but some of them have options. After Duran/Devers/Casas and two catchers, you have 8 spots for position players. If you trade Yoshida and option Hamilton, Sogard, and Valdez, you've got room for these 8: Rafaela Abreu Refsnyder Gonzalez Anthony Story Grissom Campbell That's 7 right-handed bats versus 6 left-handed bats - no need to become more right-handed. By the time Mayer is ready to come up, one of those guys is sure to be injured, making some room for him. And if not, they'll probably be close to the trade deadline and will be in a great position to adjust to whatever misfortunes happened in the first half with some trades.

[@redseatradio]

Yeah I think simply breaking it down especially this offseason being kind of tailored to the Sox needs if they spend money they completely change their situation in such a positive way

[@atgn70]

A thought: Hypothetically if Story went to the Braves,Rafaela could go back to short and Te'Oscar can be signed to play RF. Either way,the Sox are in such a great position to do several things.

[@redseatradio]

Eh I don’t love Rafaela at SS as a full time option. He had fantastic moments and I think a lot of the issues defensively came from having to move so much around the diamond but he has the potential to be the best defensive center fielder in the game

[@atgn70]

@@redseatradio Im def not a hater of Story staying. Was more of a thought of replacing Story w Teoscar even up.

[@user-eh3ex4ee9v]

​@atgn70 Braves fan here, definitely think AA only takes that if you can eat alot of that contract.

[@traci635]

Great evaluation Corbin. Mayer should be viewed as our future SS, while Story is the placeholder until Mayer is ready. Story can rotate between SS, 2B and DH. Campbell and Grissom could be viewed as our 2B options. If anyone is traded for pitching, I see lesser prospects packaged with someone like Masa, Wong or Abreu to get pitching.....

[@redseatradio]

Maybe I think it really all depends on what they end up doing monetarily

[@holxhanoi]

All these underarchievers like Story and Yoshida bite us really badly even more

[@soundhead18]

Technically…Jarren Duran was the club’s best player overall.

[@redseatradio]

obviously. But what does that have to do with any of this?

[@soundhead18]

@@redseatradio You said Raffy was

[@mykelengieza7057]

We should only trade for front line pitchers. We have one of the best farm systems and we should be able to sign right handed hats and anything else needed except pitching. You overpay in free agency especially for pitchers, so use our collateral to get the front end starter and at least 2 bullpen arms.

[@Bondagefetishstore]

The Atlanta braves need a shortstop. I saw something about how the Braves take on Story and his Salary for a couple low minor players. I love this idea. I would not move Mayer.I would keep him at Shortstop. He was destined to be the Red Sox shortstop since he was drafter. That is why Bogarts was not resigned. Mayer could be a superstar. Sogard would be addiquate as a short term plan I feel the same way as you about Masa. He is a good player but does not for. He is the one I really would like to move. I also agree make trades of mid-level players for the help. I also feel they need a free agent starter. I would like to see all of the fab 4 on the major league roster at some point in the next 2 years.

[@redseatradio]

Yeah we actually talked about that in yesterday's live video. Don't hate, but don't love the idea of moving story either unless they think Marcelo is gonna be good close to opening day. I love Sogard, but I don't want him to be a full time SS for a whole season

[@Bondagefetishstore]

@@redseatradio Sogard till the end of May then Mayer. I agree with you. It would be great to move Story's money off the books. It would be reason to spend elsewhere. Specifically pitching. I think they have the right handed bats coming up. I think Chase Meidroth should get a roster spot. I hope he can continue what he has accomplished in AAA. Never striking out.

[@snowman8235]

Yoshida needs to stay at DH

[@MrJasonsho1]

Literally why…. No he does not

[@mikaylarivera1337]

the only reason why i wouldn’t trade marcelo bc we need a future shortstop and bc story cant stay healthy. id keep him and see what he can do in triple a. but if he gets the injury bug again then trade him midseason bc as you see we need players that can stay on the field

[@remaracs6283]

I think you crushed this breakdown. I know he has massive prospect fatigue and has been banged up every season but to me he should be the number 1 untouchable prospect in the Red Sox farm system. He’s someone who projects to be a .280 hitter with 25 hr potential and above average to possible GG defense on the infield (where we had been an arson squad collectively defensively for years). Not to mention the fact that he’s been touted as a leader, has strong bond with just about every teammate he comes across and is likable/marketable/bilingual. The one caveat i would have is if the org as a whole think the offspeed issue and the ridiculous L/R splits cannot be corrected, (similar to when moncada came up and struck out something like 12x in 19 ABs and they didn’t buy his hit tool and sold high on him for sale that following offseason) Fans take the opinion of a player is gonna play 160 games at a position and why would you have high caliber depth ready to go, you need to either clear space for him or trade them for a need, when every year we have a crippling amount of injuries (no backup for devers, so we first threw Pablo Reyes out there and cut him, then had Romy Gonzalez and Nick Sogard out there, no backup for Casas so we got dom smith and Garrett cooper, no backup for story and the whole IF defense was shaky for 2 months because of it), we should know by now we need depth at IF, whether story gets reps at 2B/SS or Mayer gets reps at SS/3B to cover for anything that might happen. We shouldn’t go into next season paper thin AGAIN at IF and say what the season could have been if not for an infield injury. We know the Sox like to have versatility so if you can get better defensively by moving story or Mayer around to cover multiple positions in all for it.

[@redseatradio]

Yeah you’re absolutely right depth is maybe the most important factor to a teams success. If you avoid using that depth than you are in an even better spot

[@RickBarnett]

The Smart move would be to hold onto Mayer. If you had an above average SS behind him, then yes trade him for a young stud pitcher. However we do not have that right now. If you hold onto him, you can see how he develops at AAA in the first half and when Story goes down again, you have your back up who can take over and you won't likely skip a beat. The other reason is if Story does manage to stay healthy and has one of those years where he finally does what we wanted him to do, (it is an opt out year and sometimes players play at their best to get a better contract) he very well may opt out and you still have your next man up. If Story stays healthy and still performs poorly at bat, you can always have Mayer's start at SS either end of this year or beginning of next and have Story shift to 2nd or the DH spot if someone does take Masa. Not sold on either Grissom or Campbell yet at 2nd, and this year we should get a chance to see how they do there. I think the two players that you could end up trading to make room for some of these prospects are Abreu and Casas. I know you think Casas should not go, but he has gotten hurt each year playing in the Organization, and you can always move Devers to First. I saw Merloni, and Spiers and Caron talking about that scenario, and they all say Devers is much better at picking and grabbing the balls and gets in trouble when throwing which he would not have to do as much and the position is not as harsh on the body. The Combo of those two plus a mid tier prospect could very well get you a very good young arm. Just another scenario to think about.

[@petergarcia6645]

Personally I doubt they get top value for Mayer because of his injury history. They do have depth in the middle infield but my vote is to hold on to him for now!

[@redseatradio]

they absolutely can still get a ton of value for Marcelo. There is a reason he is still a top 10 prospect in the sport despite the injuries

[@paulscott6998]

What the Red Sox need to do is move Devers to DH and slide Mayer in at 3B. This is where he’ll probably end up in his career. The guy you need to trade is Yoshida. He doesn’t have the power to be a DH. As far as the prospects, stay chill. Let them play it out. I’m concentrating now on free agency. Who wants to be a Red Sock? Do the Red Sox want him? Free agents 29-32 already made some money. They want things like fit, ballpark, fans. Maybe their wives have preferences, or schools in the area. I’m not worried about Henry. If he sees a great fit available, he’ll pull the trigger. You are too young to remember when he has. Ballplayers today aren’t even close to the players 20 years ago. They have been inside not getting their vitamin D. They are taught fear from the time they’re born. Less male teachers in schools. Society doesn’t see whats wrong. Young men today are craving the kind of life we all had 30+ years ago. If you were born less than 35-40 years ago, you won’t know what I’m talking about. I’m not sure you are even allowed to ask me to clarify! People today can’t stand differing opinion so they just put the controls in place. Widespread censoring. When I go to Florida I talk to the young players. I generally like the guys raised in the south. Californians? Not so much. Freddy Lynn was raised in California. Big difference from back then to now. How about Carlton Fisk from New Hampshire/Vermont back then to now? When I talk to the young players I ask them where they’re from. Most of the time their answer has me already knowing probably 50% of future sucess. And if you were raised a vegan and had to fight to be out in the sun as a child, you are probably going to be very injury prone. I’m trying to be interesting here. Thinking outside the box, based on experience. I don’t care as much for pro sports anymore. Watching last years Celtics was special. I didn’t think it could be done like they did it. I never saw a TEAM as focused and team oriented as they were. They put WINNING higher than anything. So happy to see Jaylen snub Silver at the banner raising. He deserved the cold shoulder. Jaylen is the anti nba villain now. Might as well keep doing what he does.

[@MartinCann-jp1dh]

Great analysis Corbin! The key to this is Story. If we can get a trade partner to take his salary off our hands without having to add a prospect, I am all for keeping Mayer. If we cannot move Story, you need to explore all options to trade Mayer to improve the team. We need a RH power hitting 1B and or OF. The Jays need a SS, trade Mayer and Casas for Vladdy and Chad Green, with the understanding we can sign Vladdy to an extension. Sign a number one starter, preferably a left hander and all of a sudden we can challenge for a playoff spot. Let's not forget we have Franklin Arias #6 prospect, Yoeilin Cespedes #7 and Mickey Romero #16 in the minors and cannot have all of them play SS at the same time. Its a nice problem to have!

[@redseatradio]

True about the minor league depth but you have to remember most of those guys are YEARS away. If the Sox really want to compete this season they can’t rely on their current SS you need depth and quality depth

[@TevinDewitt]

Ive waited years to see him be a redsox be bitter sweet but definitely would understand the move

[@JEBossTon92]

They do have other shortstop prospects in the pipeline and presumably they could have Rafaela play there more. But I’d rather him in CF as a starter or put him where you need to as a late inning defensive replacement. If they can get a true ace for a package with Mayer, I’m not opposed to it. But I’d rather keep him.

[@redseatradio]

Yeah that is an extremely fair take

[@PortugueseKeto]

Imagine a stellar defensive squad up the middle: CF - Duran, SS - Mayer, 2B - Story, C - Teel (maybe?). Trade Story when he gets a full year of solid play or let him walk at the end of his contract, whatever comes first 😉 Seriously, they need to have an exit plan for these older guys, like move them for workhorse starters, relievers and role players.

[@redseatradio]

yeah I wouldn't hate that at all

[@martinbressette4207]

I have real questions about the value of Mayer and Casas given the injury issues. If teams are interested, I would listen. But I would rather wait and leave Mayer as the presumed future at SS and see how much vale Casas adds, as he does, since he passed on serious extension talks.

[@dannyfromna]

My comp for Meyer is Dansby Swanson. Good glove, 15 HR and 65 RBIs. Not bad! What’s that worth in the trade market? Can we get a starter? A legit #2 or #3 starter? If so then I think the Sox would look to trade him. The Sox will trade before signing a FA. Big FA signings are no longer their MO. But if they prove me wrong then great but I’m not holding my breath!

[@redseatradio]

Idk I think Mayers ceiling may be higher than that

[@dannyfromna]

2X All Star, 2X Gold Glove. Not bad! Flashed power with ATL but not so much in CHI. And he plays an average of 140 games. Hmm wouldn’t that be a nice change. Point is I think Meyer has plenty of trade value. Could we get an above average to good pitcher for him? Would we have to throw in another lower level prospect?

[@atgn70]

Id be very tempted to move him in a package for Austin Riley. All kinds of other ways we can get starting pitching.

[@redseatradio]

I think if the Sox are going to trade him it’ll be for a star pitcher

[@atgn70]

@redseatradio In the end,I bet you are right. I do think that Riley could be great here,and his aav even though 9 years left is only 22 per.

[@erikjager4704]

Trading Story is completely fantasy land thinking. Trading Mayer would get a great return, but they first need to clear a space for Roman Anthony with a left-handed outfielder being traded. Hamilton also needs to be dwelt. A Mayer decision doesn't need to be made until later next year.

[@redseatradio]

Idk you did say trading sale was fantasy land last year

[@derricklavoie2513]

I think we should go get Alonso also

[@MaShcode]

Can Meyer find a spot in the Fenway Experience™️?

[@dennisszantyr7636]

Would prefer they don't but have to be a realist and it could happen for sure. Great content Corbin!!

[@DarrenMansfield-m8k]

Ummm, Ceddanne Rafaela at short? You never even mentioned him. He is more than adequate and will only get better until Mayer is either ready or is traded.

[@derricklavoie2513]

What if you made Story a dh. His chances of getting injured would drop and make room for Mayer. But I’m at my breaking point with Story. I got excited for nothing

[@jc01057]

I think Sox need to acquire not 1 but 2 top of the rotation starters. At least that’s what they would need to launch themselves into juggernaut contender status. I like Mayer but I would trade him to bring in a top of the rotation arm. Sox do have other middle infielders. It would be trading something you have in abundance for something you lack.

[@redseatradio]

Kind of you do have a lot of middle infielders but to what level of talent right? On top of that I don’t think you necessarily need 2 front line guys to be a legit contender especially with houcks emergence this season and how Bello finished 2024

[@jc01057]

⁠thanks for the reply. Let me elaborate, if they add one top of the rotation pitcher they are contenders. Say hat in the ring but the edge of the ring. Say 2013 Sox. Make it 2 and now that hat is in the center of the ring. Say closer to the 2018 Sox. Houk and Bello, I’m happy to see their improvement but I’m not ready to rely on them to be top of the rotation starters. Not yet. Need to see more consistency/sustainability from them especially Bello.

[@danielarjona6049]

How do we feel about going after Shane Bieber?

[@Crazyclam69]

Ive been onboard for the sox to part with him. They have other top SS in the system and if they cant trade story then it creates a logjam.

[@redseatradio]

They do, the problem is that those guys are going to be no where near MLB for at least 2-3 seasons. Feels like especially if story gets hurt again that the cycle of waiting would continue

[@TylerOBrien7719]

I believe either yoshida or abreu will be traded. The lineup is heavy lefty. But as much as i want pitching which i do. I think it would be interesting if the red sox bring back tyler oniell and also sign anthony santander from the Os.

[@redseatradio]

Yeah that would be a really interesting lineup for sure

[@TylerOBrien7719]

@@redseatradio but trading story away and probably eating money or adding a piece to balance the salary seems likely.

[@distractionsinthewind9976]

Excellent video. I don't think ownership spends much FA capital. Mayer could go. Nobody is untradeable.

[@redseatradio]

Idk I think we will have a feel pretty early on as to what the Sox “budget” for 2025 looks like

[@markmccarthy7887]

Based on recent history and current events I think the Red Sox flat find large contracts for free agent pitchers as something they try to avoid. I feel prospects are the way they plan to obtain a top tier starting pitcher. I do think they package Wilyer with prospect or prospects to a Seattle or a Chicago / Sox or etc for a young controllable arm. I personally don’t see them parting with Mayer, he is just to talented.

[@redseatradio]

wouldn't be totally surprised at all if they stay on the trade market and avoid the FA one, sucks but it's realistic

[@markmccarthy7887]

@@redseatradio trust me I wish and hope it will be different.. a Fried or Burnes would be incredibly helpful..but you read the aftermath of the last hot stove and the reoccurring themes was they just kept getting outbid over and over again …just not willing to slap the checkbook on the table to get it done.

[@brentbell7235]

We do not want to trade any of the big 4 prospects; we do not want to trade Duran or Abreau. Yet they do not all fit on a single MLB roster. Something has to give. It comes down to plugging holes where the Sox are weak, and the willingness to pay for free agents. I guess there is a world where Trevor has a comeback player of the year season, makes the All Star team, and is in the AL MVP discussion. Then he might opt out and Mayer slides in.

[@redseatradio]

boy would I love to find that world

[@DavidCrommett]

Corbin, is Rafi really a clubhouse leader? Never gotten that impression. And I agree with the comment that this year Duran was actually their best player. This video, however, was more than worth it simply for the Henry cigar chomping dollars flying photo.

[@redseatradio]

glad you liked it lol. And Raffy isn't necessarily papi in 2013, but he's absolutely an example setter for the rest of the squad

[@Anthony__420]

Let’s hope Mayer isn’t like Grissom cause they are the same age and Grissom is like Story hurt all the time. Now we know why Atlanta moved on. His age and injury history didn’t seem to bother the Braves from moving on.

[@redseatradio]

way way different scenario

[@rmcintire1087]

Keeping an aging and injury riddled Story to trade away Mayer is not smart long term at all. Story has averaged 54 games a season with us. None of this is by his choice I understand, but it doesn't put him on the field either. Trading Story and giving Kambell or Mayer a shot out of camp makes more sense. Especially if you get someone back while eating a portion of his contract. Story when healthy is a game changer yes, but like I said earlier 54 games a season. Send Story to ATL and eat 16 million to get back a Waldrep type prospect.

[@josephamato2031]

Mayer is always hurt. I would mind them trading him. Story is not opting out sad to say. He's the new Chris sale 😅😅

[@jerusamanjerusaman2819]

Trade Devers for the best lefty starter, resign O'Neil, put Campbell at 3rd, Grissom at 2nd, Story another year or two, Mayer and Anthony start in 2026, Keel 2025. Voila, great team!

[@bryandean5563]

Why trade him now when you can wait til he's a superstar and trade him for rice and beans cause you're too cheap to resign him?

[@alesitercrimson24]

So re signing Devers means zero to you? Just ignore it I guess so it fits your narrative that they don't sign anyone

[@jc01057]

Seems to me the vast majority of the time prospects do not pan as well as teams hope, Jeff Bagwell deal excluded.

[@jeffleary1598]

You don’t trade a player like this

[@alfredbaroni2133]

Dump Yoshida Story and Valdez Throw in a few low grade prospects to say Seattle or Pittsburgh For a good arm and let the kids play and save the dollar...😂😂😂😂😂

[@SauceBoss127]

Marcelo and Anthony for Vladdy?

[@redseatradio]

no, no, and no

[@SauceBoss127]

@@redseatradio ?

[@redseatradio]

That would be an incredibly bad trade by Boston

[@thenuge6246]

Trade Story

[@redseatradio]

How

[@jeffreyramsdell4781]

NOPE!! Red Sox fans follow this guy name Fenway faithful! He makes sensable realistic videos. This guy just talks

[@jeffreyramsdell4781]

Mayer will not be traded. End of story

[@separatepeace2432]

I trade Duran before I’d trade Mayer.

[@redseatradio]

Really why?

[@separatepeace2432]

@@redseatradioI like Duran, but as we’ve seen with “speed” first players, that trait fades as time goes on. I think Mayer has a higher floor and a thru the roof ceiling.

[@likearollingstone007]

Marcelo is going nowhere

[@redseatradio]

I hope not but idk