Are the rules for trans athletes fair?

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The Economist

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@gilbertg7
@gilbertg7 5 жыл бұрын
In sport, women and men categories weren't created because they felt different. It's because they are physically different. It's as if a boxing superweight said he should compete in the lightweight category because he feels lighter
@KonSimpl72
@KonSimpl72 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@johnny2351
@johnny2351 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@graysonjohnson8466
@graysonjohnson8466 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@geezalee1677
@geezalee1677 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@yuno2512
@yuno2512 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@alexmikhylov
@alexmikhylov 5 жыл бұрын
to be a professional athlete is not a human right
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 5 жыл бұрын
No, but having people recognize your gender. Also, everyone who can qualify (and doesn't cause any trouble) should be able to compete.
@GabrielGabeRodriguez
@GabrielGabeRodriguez 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielmay7266 how about no? This whole gender identity is up rooting societal norms we didn't even know we had! Plain ridiculous I say
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Rodriguez, I find this personal as I’m a non binary track runner. All I want is for people to try to use the right pronouns and not make a problem out of how I’m not cis. Can you just stop being transphobic please?
@missjayspeechley9213
@missjayspeechley9213 5 жыл бұрын
@@GabrielGabeRodriguez So "Oh no, something new. But I don't want to educate myself so I'll just say no because it's easier". Wow that is so grown up
@alexmikhylov
@alexmikhylov 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielmay7266 trans athletes cause trouble
@pottingsoil
@pottingsoil 4 жыл бұрын
If they didn't have an advantage they obviously wouldn't be smashing every record.
@trash_girlfriend
@trash_girlfriend 4 жыл бұрын
How many records have they been smashing
@pottingsoil
@pottingsoil 4 жыл бұрын
@@trash_girlfriend Weightlifting records across the board (some trans have been stripped of records because they were deemed our fakr competitors like in Richmond), NCAA records across the board most most notably in the 200, 400, 800, long jump, and high jump, high school track and CC records, and in cycling. You can find entire lists on articles if you just go a simple Google search. It's really depressing that they're allowed to compete.
@Hayanomie
@Hayanomie 4 жыл бұрын
@@pottingsoil what a time to be alive.
@thebaddestogre-3698
@thebaddestogre-3698 4 жыл бұрын
@@trash_girlfriend if you would be open minded with the news you read and the facts you accept, other people wouldn't have to google for you.
@prokopf-9332
@prokopf-9332 4 жыл бұрын
And to put into context they make up the smallest proportion of athletes. I think one crucial element with the Olympics is that an athlete who gets gold recieves up to several 100 k from his respective country. Every country has a different scheme, most are lower, but it still is a significant sum for an amateur. Now I'm not saying this is the main reason or in fact any reason for the people involved. I dont think anyone would undergo gendertreatment for the money. But it is an incentive for them to get recognized in normal Olympics since separate transgender Olympics would be like Paralympics. Little to no financial gain.
@cgomez1104
@cgomez1104 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing against trans people, they are human and deserve respect. But we are talking about sports and fairness, and in this context there is an unfair advantage.
@omario2069
@omario2069 3 жыл бұрын
Well put~
@ry0usama511
@ry0usama511 3 жыл бұрын
@James Hampton true, trans people basically denies who they are, why would they deserve respect when they cant respect their own
@garenthal9638
@garenthal9638 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but if you believe trans women are women then it is no different than lebron having a biological advantage than a 5 foot 6 weak man
@garenthal9638
@garenthal9638 3 жыл бұрын
@@ObeseGorilla229 people are born with biological advantages. If you really believe trans women are women then it’s no different
@duskyflathead4483
@duskyflathead4483 3 жыл бұрын
@@garenthal9638 no its not, there are 2 clear physical distinctions in biology, race isnt one of them.
@Daniel_Anthony
@Daniel_Anthony 4 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is the biggest joke of our time
@cloudunknown
@cloudunknown 4 жыл бұрын
just another human bad troll
@mattsspelman1457
@mattsspelman1457 4 жыл бұрын
As ridiculous as flat earthers are they haven't got a patch on these wack jobs.
@sulk1992
@sulk1992 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Jenner: woman of the year...
@t-real9054
@t-real9054 4 жыл бұрын
sulk1992 Enough said
@al.s.3277
@al.s.3277 4 жыл бұрын
It is so unfair that they let them compete like this. The categories for men and women weren’t for sexism. But because of our differences in our biology.
@symihope
@symihope 4 жыл бұрын
“it’s clear that legally and socially we are” yes but this is entirely an issue of biology
@yep.1106
@yep.1106 4 жыл бұрын
They also aren’t legally, they are always recognised as their own gender for medical and legal reasons...
@peanutbuttervibes1278
@peanutbuttervibes1278 4 жыл бұрын
G Didn’t we stop segregation like...60 years ago.
@MovieRiotHD
@MovieRiotHD 4 жыл бұрын
Even nor socially. No one wants to date a Transgender..
@DeclinedMercy
@DeclinedMercy 4 жыл бұрын
Give them an inch, they take a mile
@RainyRunningRiver
@RainyRunningRiver 4 жыл бұрын
Yah because wearing black face is evil yet dressing up as a caricature of an entire gender is fine.
@jessed1709
@jessed1709 5 жыл бұрын
No one in their right mind thinks a biological male should be permitted to compete as a women. This isn't 'controversial', it's patently absurd.
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes 5 жыл бұрын
The only way it would be fair is to have a new athletic category for transgender males and another one for transgender females.
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 5 жыл бұрын
atam mardes, not enough people therefore not reasonable.
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 5 жыл бұрын
You do realize that MTF trans people take estrogen? The amount of it they take makes them much closer to women than men when it comes to athletic ability.
@asn9337
@asn9337 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielmay7266 taking oestrogen means nothing! no amount of oral or injected oestrogen will undo the organizational effects of androgens during puberty. on average, individuals who have gone through puberty as males will have height, strength, speed on their side. I support people embracing their own unique sexuality but this insistence on competing in female events after a mtf transition has nothing to do with an individual being allowed their own private life.
@Naskinlahtaaja
@Naskinlahtaaja 5 жыл бұрын
The problem here is that the people who keep saying that MtF women who have undergone a year of testosterone suppression still retain a significant competitive advantage don't actually have any evidence to support their claim outside of "lol I'm just right". This lack of evidence is exactly why the IOC hasn't changed their rules in the past couple years despite how much it's been talked about.
@mort2747
@mort2747 3 жыл бұрын
How tf do people not see how this is going to destroy women’s sport
@williamfoster6814
@williamfoster6814 3 жыл бұрын
Have we seen any trans men in men's sports? Not that I've noticed. Hm wonder why
@crazycrackheadbubblegums9959
@crazycrackheadbubblegums9959 3 жыл бұрын
humans dont care about women nor do women raise their voices
@hellohowareyou7495
@hellohowareyou7495 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be more than happy to let it happen, let those feminist deal with it since they want equality, let the left destroy each other.
@cassjaimedurantsoutouras8118
@cassjaimedurantsoutouras8118 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how Laurel Hubbard competed in the Summer Olympics as a trans woman and won no medals. Seems like women's sport is still intact to me...
@thesecretlifeofbuns4336
@thesecretlifeofbuns4336 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellohowareyou7495 yeah, no. This is against feminism. We don't want men dominating women's sports and this is NOT equality.
@samuelolwe2909
@samuelolwe2909 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a reason mens' and womens' sport was separated? Or should we just merge the two since "hey, everyone has a 'competitive advantage'"
@TheNasty98
@TheNasty98 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@marimedina2985
@marimedina2985 3 жыл бұрын
Right just make it co Ed then
@hassanfarid4997
@hassanfarid4997 3 жыл бұрын
@@marimedina2985 and women will never win again
@kristinacvetkovic5620
@kristinacvetkovic5620 3 жыл бұрын
Agreeed
@anikakhan1539
@anikakhan1539 3 жыл бұрын
@burningfeet 53 and then the population rate will be down to negative and mother earth will be green again 🤪🤪
@noobnoob911
@noobnoob911 4 жыл бұрын
This Rachel said in the beginning that they are legally and socially women. Yes, but Not Physically/biologically though.
@Jusneko
@Jusneko 4 жыл бұрын
THIS!!
@surpreetsingh737
@surpreetsingh737 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the SAME THING😂😂😂😂
@briank9354
@briank9354 4 жыл бұрын
Testosterone is literally the steroid that makes u jacked. It gives an major advantages. Anyone who says other wise is delusional or just wants the advantage
@anwarnm9052
@anwarnm9052 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely said
@matthewrodgers9270
@matthewrodgers9270 4 жыл бұрын
Yea he’s clueless
@kshitijr7898
@kshitijr7898 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so woke, that you start repression of women...
@kyliemiller173
@kyliemiller173 4 жыл бұрын
right? it’s a huge slap in the face when people who claimed to be feminists and want to fight against the domestic violence against women and want equality ignore that men are physically stronger. we aren’t scared to walk alone at night because of how men look, but because we all know they can easily overpower and hurt us
@mop2254
@mop2254 4 жыл бұрын
Just another sociopath hijacking the message for their own gains.
@Tall-Cool-Drink
@Tall-Cool-Drink 4 жыл бұрын
Ironic, isn't it?
@tiredgardener
@tiredgardener 4 жыл бұрын
Those making these calls are not feminist, they are misogynists. They have just found a new system to exploit to further their hatred towards women.
@ViscountVile
@ViscountVile 4 жыл бұрын
@@tiredgardener That may be how it seems, but some advocates are deluded women who believe they are being 'progressive' and inclusive to trans people.
@nicolasleth6848
@nicolasleth6848 3 жыл бұрын
"No one has a competitive advantage over each other" Then why split it into male and female if "sport is never level"? Why don't they just compete with other men if they don't see an advantage
@luqaszz5206
@luqaszz5206 3 жыл бұрын
And why there is no debate about trans people who want to compete with males? 🤔😂 Oh wait.. Are there any of them?
@TouchofShunshine
@TouchofShunshine 3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@TyroneBrownJrIV
@TyroneBrownJrIV 2 жыл бұрын
I know right!!if no one has a competitive advantage why can't I use my sports car in the cyclist tournaments???
@cedric-assehliemessing3053
@cedric-assehliemessing3053 4 жыл бұрын
"Do trans athletes have an unfair advantage?" Next time on: "Is the Earth actually round?"
@josephhage9377
@josephhage9377 4 жыл бұрын
Cedric-Asseh Liemessing Next up Is water wet or does it make things wet The answer at 5
@iceseic
@iceseic 4 жыл бұрын
They already did the earth thing
@royog3088
@royog3088 4 жыл бұрын
Christians were right all along.
@marciaosullivan3200
@marciaosullivan3200 4 жыл бұрын
Well funnily enough no the earth isn't that rigid and it's not quite a sphere so therefore because physical boundaries are vague the earth is a social construct
@JanZamani
@JanZamani 4 жыл бұрын
welcome to 2020 where both are now contested...
@steamlink4803
@steamlink4803 4 жыл бұрын
Rachel sounds like a 12 year old participating in a race against 8 year olds and being proud of winning. Not trying to belittle women. Just making a bad analogy.
@Paul-Weston
@Paul-Weston 4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@shanamoens822
@shanamoens822 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah she's so smug about it. I can't stand it. Makes me think she does it on purpose.
@Paul-Weston
@Paul-Weston 4 жыл бұрын
Probably not even transgendered. Just realised she'll never get a medal competing against men, so tried this.
@hritikpanwar4014
@hritikpanwar4014 4 жыл бұрын
There should be a transgender category too
@Paul-Weston
@Paul-Weston 4 жыл бұрын
@@hritikpanwar4014 yes
@SH8ZIA
@SH8ZIA 4 жыл бұрын
Why is this even a debate. Women’s sports are being wrecked and everyone is standing by? So called experts!!!
@zoemacdonald6297
@zoemacdonald6297 4 жыл бұрын
@Ayanokoji women themselves allowing it? Literally in almost all the videos I've watched on this have been WOMEN saying that is unfair.
@TheSim4e90
@TheSim4e90 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 6.3 male with 220 pound.... I'm going to call my self a woman and play basketball in the women's category, better yet i will make a all male team and win in the women's category.
@tarnw3301
@tarnw3301 4 жыл бұрын
There was an article that talked about how there are a lot of rich white men lobbying for the trans agenda. Focus on rich. With money dances the dog, and so have the so called "experts" danced.
@FinnCh979
@FinnCh979 4 жыл бұрын
@oskrrr92 the trans ppl and LGBT thing are just political tool for government to gain more control and put more regulations. the people that support trans ppl hate trans ppl themselves. tell 100 liberal men to date trans women and go in bed with them and see how many will do it and see the hypocrisy falls out.
@Nighttask70
@Nighttask70 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just think we can make another Category for the trans women or men because it will be fair in that way . I support trans people honestly but it is unfair about this situation for women in that sport
@sb-jt5zn
@sb-jt5zn 3 жыл бұрын
I identify as a gold medalist so I won’t accept bronze 😂
@calebpurvis2872
@calebpurvis2872 3 жыл бұрын
I wish it wasnt that easy to sum up their entire thought process
@FellowOfHammer
@FellowOfHammer 3 жыл бұрын
So true lol
@pebbles92able
@pebbles92able 3 жыл бұрын
How original 😒 ...m0ron
@nanamin7298
@nanamin7298 3 жыл бұрын
@@pebbles92able 🤡
@pebbles92able
@pebbles92able 3 жыл бұрын
@@nanamin7298 yes you are a clown
@polog9920
@polog9920 5 жыл бұрын
Why is the right for one transgender not to be discriminated more important, than the right of hunderts of women to compete in a fair system?
@Naskinlahtaaja
@Naskinlahtaaja 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that there just is no evidence that MtF athletes who have been a year on testosterone suppression retain a significant competitive advantage over cis women. That lack of evidence is exactly why the IOC hasn't changed the rules despite it having been talked about a lot in recent years.
@panikosofgrays1904
@panikosofgrays1904 5 жыл бұрын
Winston Churchill sadly it's because the one transgender is man and women don't count. I say that as a man.
@polog9920
@polog9920 5 жыл бұрын
@@Naskinlahtaaja in biology a man is defined as a Person Who has cells in which there are both X and Y Chromosoms. So they are man and therefore diffrent
@Naskinlahtaaja
@Naskinlahtaaja 5 жыл бұрын
@Chris there is no evidence to suggest whether they have an advantage or not. How on Earth is it rational to make assumptions like that without evidence?
@muscleprotein
@muscleprotein 5 жыл бұрын
@@Naskinlahtaaja course they have an advantage! Stronger bone structure, greater muscle density. If it's just about testosterone levels then men over 40 can race in female events as their test levels are slowly declining. Have an open category where anything and anyone can compete then everyone is happy. If it wasn't for biological men and women we wouldn't be here. That's one fact that for now still holds.
@EngineeringStudent06
@EngineeringStudent06 4 жыл бұрын
"Do trans athlete have an unfair advantage?" Is that even a question🤔
@germancastano2241
@germancastano2241 4 жыл бұрын
Do trans athlete have an unfair advantage? Do big women have an unfair advantage? Do big men have an unfair advantage? Do young people have an unfair advantage against "senior citizens"? Is that even a question? Is not. That why there regulations and categories. In the past women fight to have their own category because there were invisible behind men. To be fair in some point I history in boxing everyone belong to a unique category, but they created a bunch of categories because a big men have actually advantage against smaller men.
@youarepretty5299
@youarepretty5299 4 жыл бұрын
@joey macdermott wrong. sports is about competitive people with the same qualities and quantities. You cant compare a fish to a rabbit because they are completely different. What's consider cheating imp is a trans women against biologically women, it's like saying look I take vitamins or a booster and I am going to crash them. Unbelievable. I'm not a hater nor transphobic, it's a criticism. You can take it and improve or remain the same.
@sillysod33
@sillysod33 4 жыл бұрын
It is for the retards on the sad intellectual sewer that is the modern left.
@blahvn
@blahvn 4 жыл бұрын
bobby macdiarmid there is a thing called weight class, you idiot
@arachnid3297
@arachnid3297 4 жыл бұрын
It is strikingly astonishing how you guys have ignored the major unfair advantage such as socio-economic background for years, and now everyone became a biologist. There could be no better word to define this situation than hypocrisy.
@iamyourbiggestfan6420
@iamyourbiggestfan6420 4 жыл бұрын
"Do Trans athletes have an unfair advantage?" Answer: Yes!
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 4 жыл бұрын
Not if it's female to male.
@derekmartin2054
@derekmartin2054 4 жыл бұрын
Does a 6 foot tall woman have an advantage on a 5 foot tall woman? yes, it's just how it is
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 4 жыл бұрын
@@derekmartin2054 And stronger muscles and thicker bones and more endurance and quicker reflexes and so on... I don't care how people organize those sporting events, because I don't watch them anyways, but it seems to me that a lot of people, who do watch women's sports, want to watch athletes, who grew up as women.
@ReasonAboveEverything
@ReasonAboveEverything 4 жыл бұрын
Only to transwomen
@matrixmirage2148
@matrixmirage2148 4 жыл бұрын
Technically, it's a dude with pink hair, glasses, and nail polish At first, I thought it was Skrillex from 2009-2010 lol
@hiidupiidu3292
@hiidupiidu3292 3 жыл бұрын
western society has become so woke that they don't even realize they're becoming misogynistic.
@RainyRunningRiver
@RainyRunningRiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an MMA fighter for 10+ years. I've beat many women all over Ireland. My brother has less than 3 years experience but crushed me and hes only 17- Men and woman are diffrent. Even with training and years and years of working out I as a woman will never be as strong as a man. Males and females are different! I wouldn't want to fight a guy again
@luleetomas2108
@luleetomas2108 4 жыл бұрын
Black White Finally someone with a brain...speak the truth always
@OkayMay749
@OkayMay749 4 жыл бұрын
Even Serena Williams admitted that she would get beat by an average male tennis player because physically men are biologically stronger then women. It’s not transphobic it’s just fact. I’m all for trans rights but when someone who’s never won a medal let alone broken a record and then suddenly transitions and wins/breaks records in female sports, we have to start looking into this unfair bs
@spiderjump
@spiderjump 4 жыл бұрын
Black White I am 5 foot 10 Asian guy .. and at my leanest about 77 kg.. I could do 18 pull ups with very strict form.. this female at in my college told me she felt confident she could beat guys in sports .. I told her why do not you try your strength against me since I am not much bigger than you. Let just say she was surprised how this slim looking guy was so much stronger than her.
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan 4 жыл бұрын
I’m trans but really it’s not fair. At the end of the day male and female biology is different. Someone transitioning at the age of 30 won’t make for a fair competition
@imanepink
@imanepink 4 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏 agreed
@karlomagnoguadalupe4843
@karlomagnoguadalupe4843 4 жыл бұрын
Respect 👍
@RainyRunningRiver
@RainyRunningRiver 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. And I'll always be the real version of what you pretend to be ❤
@Kaharris.96
@Kaharris.96 4 жыл бұрын
The entire world is trans.
@takarahayashi4124
@takarahayashi4124 4 жыл бұрын
we need more people like you
@napmcdan3437
@napmcdan3437 4 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself this: How accomplished were these athletes before their transformation? Most, if not all, were average at best. Now, after the transformations, they are at the top of their sport. Case closed!
@davidsawyer3737
@davidsawyer3737 4 жыл бұрын
Nap Mcdan but honestly, who cares about women’s sports
@napmcdan3437
@napmcdan3437 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidsawyer3737 Well, that is true. But I'd rather ignore them because they are uninteresting rather than them being an insult to _real women_ .
@SharonVeeLee
@SharonVeeLee 4 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but how many trans-men are dominating male sports? By the logic, after a year or so they should be on par with men.
@danyyilbun6736
@danyyilbun6736 4 жыл бұрын
And women who went into men sports actually were in trouble even after transition
@loganrogan605
@loganrogan605 4 жыл бұрын
Are not men and women equal?
@theseeker8074
@theseeker8074 3 жыл бұрын
“This is about are trans women actually women and it’s clear that legally and socially we are” Me: Well, but not biologically.🤷‍♂️
@NPC-dv5kg
@NPC-dv5kg 2 жыл бұрын
yeah these morens forgot reality
@winstonalf
@winstonalf 4 жыл бұрын
If we really cared about women empowerment this would not happen.
@wissaleaab9324
@wissaleaab9324 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS!
@granillx
@granillx 4 жыл бұрын
periodt.
@baileypatterson9533
@baileypatterson9533 4 жыл бұрын
Vatsavai Venkata Satya mangapathi raju honestly this is part of the reason feminism is a joke to even women
@bruhbruhin_a_sling7775
@bruhbruhin_a_sling7775 4 жыл бұрын
Trans saying they’re women and going to compete against obviously weaker women gives the same energy as ufc fighters weighing down to fight weaker opponents
@megansmallwood3409
@megansmallwood3409 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Susan B Anthony who helped get women the right to vote just to see that one day that transgender males would compete against female biological females and they the biological female would lose while do transgender women would win cuz they have more testosterone at is the point of an a biological women unless you're just going to be labeled transphobic if you tried to say that transgender people should have their own League it's ridiculous. testosterone
@Adam-vx6to
@Adam-vx6to 4 жыл бұрын
It's not fair to anyone. The end. This shouldn't even be a question.
@ipotrick6686
@ipotrick6686 4 жыл бұрын
why compete as a women ever? you can never win
@HandledToaster2
@HandledToaster2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ipotrick6686 nice bait. Below this comment you will find an immense useless discussion on women's rights or something. Enjoy :)
@sarmadghafoor1484
@sarmadghafoor1484 4 жыл бұрын
It’s significant change that’s why, for example why can’t everyone use steroids it’s unfair anyway should be allowed. which is why altering your natural state in sports for woman will be unbeatable. I think there should be conversation since it’s flat out an advantage not including like weight groups and what not for strength training especially.
@Sequence322
@Sequence322 4 жыл бұрын
It's totally unfair to woman!
@Afroninja2025
@Afroninja2025 4 жыл бұрын
well played gg
@juliancoenen4917
@juliancoenen4917 4 жыл бұрын
“And it is clear that legally and socially, we are.” But biologically not
@AngelEmfrbl
@AngelEmfrbl 3 жыл бұрын
Their in a dream world where they denounce gender exists, right down to biological reasons.
@uraharamitchell7250
@uraharamitchell7250 3 жыл бұрын
@@AngelEmfrbl *THEY'RE definitely in a dream world. *THERE will be consequences for all of this someday. *THEIR defiance of the natural order will come back and haunt them. *THERE'RE more videos talking on this topic.
@snapperjessen
@snapperjessen 3 жыл бұрын
@@uraharamitchell7250 smooth correction :)
@uraharamitchell7250
@uraharamitchell7250 3 жыл бұрын
@@snapperjessen As smooth as a wildebeest stampede driving through somebody's living room.
@DoINeedAHandle
@DoINeedAHandle 3 жыл бұрын
I literally screamed those exact words bruh cheers
@_loss_
@_loss_ 3 жыл бұрын
This is cheating on a whole different level.
@Ardkun00
@Ardkun00 Жыл бұрын
Cheating backed by the LGBTQ+ 🏳️‍🌈 Community
@paulschumacher4308
@paulschumacher4308 4 жыл бұрын
There needs to be trans-only events or it will NEVER be fair.
@whytee11
@whytee11 4 жыл бұрын
That's always the point! and there would always be accusations that the world is not trying to be all-including of gender identifications, when sports is a first and foremost a physiological competition.
@paulschumacher4308
@paulschumacher4308 4 жыл бұрын
@@whytee11 "life isn't fair" was always told to me while growing up. And I'm more concerned with women's rights than trans rights.
@whytee11
@whytee11 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulschumacher4308 it's like, "just because it isn't fair, doesn't mean that we should give up on making it fair" for me. And I wouldn't say I am more concerned with this than that, but we should be cautious when we're making it fair for one
@paulschumacher4308
@paulschumacher4308 4 жыл бұрын
@@whytee11 I agree. I like things to be as fair as possible, but if fair is impossible then we should negatively affect the least amount of people.
@stlalways6715
@stlalways6715 4 жыл бұрын
All 20 of them worldwide can compete....
@turokk3352
@turokk3352 4 жыл бұрын
This shouldn't even be titled a question... the world has gone mad
@megansmallwood3409
@megansmallwood3409 4 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree
@JrryThrdJnsFurth
@JrryThrdJnsFurth 3 жыл бұрын
NOOO AMERICA HAS GONE MAD
@turokk3352
@turokk3352 3 жыл бұрын
@@JrryThrdJnsFurth I'm so sorry my friend.
@JrryThrdJnsFurth
@JrryThrdJnsFurth 3 жыл бұрын
@@turokk3352, IT HURTS EVERYTIME 😢
@spartanK42
@spartanK42 3 жыл бұрын
I've always assumed that despite the world being more accepting of LGBT stuff, Transgenders in women's sports was a boundary they wouldn't cross for obvious reasons. Apparently I've been living under a rock because here we are.
@googlemailbox615
@googlemailbox615 4 жыл бұрын
This is an absolute joke
@Sam-vs6rg
@Sam-vs6rg 4 жыл бұрын
ahahah says you
@Sam-vs6rg
@Sam-vs6rg 4 жыл бұрын
@ I said "says you" not "says who", I was implying that @Google Mailbox is a joke. Learn to read you dingus 😐
@mortsobtw2594
@mortsobtw2594 4 жыл бұрын
I think womans can't play video games
@Sam-vs6rg
@Sam-vs6rg 4 жыл бұрын
@@mortsobtw2594 k.
@mortsobtw2594
@mortsobtw2594 4 жыл бұрын
@Vic Birth yes
@chrislarge3429
@chrislarge3429 3 жыл бұрын
Scary how this is even an argument. The west is descending into madness…
@egg4489
@egg4489 3 жыл бұрын
All thanks to the Cultural Marxism and Feminism
@vaporwaveisdead
@vaporwaveisdead 3 жыл бұрын
The west is sending sattelites the size of a bottle of Coke to orbit the Earth. We're still the best.
@egg4489
@egg4489 3 жыл бұрын
@@vaporwaveisdead he was talking about the Society not the Technology
@vaporwaveisdead
@vaporwaveisdead 3 жыл бұрын
@@egg4489 This same freedom of thinking boosters both technology and excentric ideas. Trust me, if the idea doesn't make logic we're throwing it away. It happens that in Africa, Russia or Middle East, people haven't even achieved such advanced philosophy. They're buying our products, receiving humanitarian help and telling us how to act. It's like children telling mom and dad how to behave.
@jehanshahmohamednoor-2654
@jehanshahmohamednoor-2654 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with u
@lukeweyant6771
@lukeweyant6771 3 жыл бұрын
Strongest man in the world: male Strongest female in the world: also male
@skyebowleyn6364
@skyebowleyn6364 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@lukeweyant6771
@lukeweyant6771 3 жыл бұрын
@Buttbanging Trannyliberal Glamour Magazine woman of the year 2015: Caitlyn Jenner
@spencersee391
@spencersee391 3 жыл бұрын
Male power!
@Shin-ln5fq
@Shin-ln5fq 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@johndoe_yoe6257
@johndoe_yoe6257 3 жыл бұрын
2026 Olympic... all male competition, some with long hair on the women events.
@teadrops9449
@teadrops9449 4 жыл бұрын
its unfair that trans women can participate with other women. Its not even about being discriminatory but they are just physically different.
@tdk99-i8n
@tdk99-i8n 4 жыл бұрын
Why does the women's category even exist then?
@laurenkelley1171
@laurenkelley1171 4 жыл бұрын
Tyler Knight Because men are biologically built stronger than women. Having them separate isn’t in any way to be sexist, it’s to be fair.
@tdk99-i8n
@tdk99-i8n 4 жыл бұрын
@@laurenkelley1171 the cyclist in the video says that Dutch women are taller and that is an advantage. Why isn't there a Dutch women category in competition? Nonsense, we say, it's not important enough to make that a category. And therefore, we are assigning a value judgement. Extending this logic, if we don't make a category exception for physically stronger dutch women, then it's inconsistent to make exceptions for women in general on the basis of physical differences. Perhaps you could say its consistent because only weaker groups get their own categories (e.g. no controversy with transmen competing with men), but even here it's not ALL weaker groups. Save for boxing, weaker men don't get their own categories. Trans women then say their exclusion is based on gender, not physical differences.
@ёлки-я7п
@ёлки-я7п 4 жыл бұрын
But the difference is Dutch woman is born taller, it would be different if a man who passed thought male puberty (who is probably taller than average female) transitioned recently to female.
@laurenkelley1171
@laurenkelley1171 4 жыл бұрын
Tyler Knight If I’m understanding you correctly, you say that a Dutch-woman-only category would be necessary to give weaker woman an equal opportunity. The only problem is that height is not always necessarily an advantage. Just because a Dutch woman is taller it doesn’t mean they are faster or stronger than another woman. But when it comes to any competitive sport in the olympics, things like bone density, amount of muscle and lung size certainly do matter. Men are biologically stronger not just because of their height, but greatly because of these factors. Which is why there is a separate category for both men and women.
@TtheManInTheArena
@TtheManInTheArena 4 жыл бұрын
Corona also thought it was unfair so she had the event canceled.
@Nafets-C
@Nafets-C 4 жыл бұрын
Even covid 19 protested this kind of hypocrisy. Its all coming together
@ashashash666
@ashashash666 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
@abhiluitsharma1355
@abhiluitsharma1355 3 жыл бұрын
Social science is all about narrative and perspectives.. but SCIENCE is the reality which no one can deny..
@richie7927
@richie7927 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine mike tyson in his prime, becoming transgender and entering women’s boxing.
@buggs6608
@buggs6608 3 жыл бұрын
Chris breezy Or should I say Mike breezy
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 3 жыл бұрын
I would say it is Stunning and Brave. They asked for this, they really did. And now its here.
@garyvahl7658
@garyvahl7658 3 жыл бұрын
He would still win.
@abhishekyadav-hy3gq
@abhishekyadav-hy3gq 3 жыл бұрын
Issue is not with Mike Tyson , imagine me entrying women boxing 🥊 and winning 😂😂
@tervenjames8305
@tervenjames8305 3 жыл бұрын
In his prime he can do it now. I bet if Mike fights the wnba champion he would win.
@brookeo_o3866
@brookeo_o3866 3 жыл бұрын
People defending this are literally ignorant and they don’t even see it. Someone said that women should “just train harder then.”
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 3 жыл бұрын
theyre absolutely not ignorant... they are using this a cynical power grab
@anastliliop5819
@anastliliop5819 3 жыл бұрын
Trans women on HRT (hormone replacement therapy) have the same levels of testosterone as cis woman. These athletes take estrogen and progesterone which significantly drop muscle mass and make it harder to gain muscle. Basically they are on the same level as cis women. Of course that only applies to trans people on HRT. There should be regulation and testing for testosterone levels but all in all its unfair to exclude athletes from sport when science tells us that they don't have a biological advantage
@tungstenanderson5991
@tungstenanderson5991 3 жыл бұрын
@@anastliliop5819 Men have stronger bones by design than women, biologically. Taking estrogen, makes those bones even stronger. A mans heart, lungs, and limbs don't get shorter or smaller. Already developed muscles, don't atrophy automatically. Considering the fact that men like Mary Gregory was "record breaking" for "women" is just one example. Science dictates, that trans identified males, actually do have an advantage. And, it's not rocket science.
@triggered577
@triggered577 3 жыл бұрын
@@anastliliop5819 It is not settled science that they “don’t have a competitive advantage” and these lies that you all insist on telling is exactly why there is so much backlash against these trans “activists” and gender “theorists”. There have been plenty of studies and professionals speaking on this and the idea that a biological male is of the same physical capacity as a woman bc he doped himself up with hormones is not scientifically confirmed. You all are literally running around spreading these lies for the sake of accommodation.
@anastliliop5819
@anastliliop5819 3 жыл бұрын
@@triggered577 didn't I provide studies for both points trying to be objective? Unlike you I prefer seeing both sides of the coin before settling down to an opinion. And yes I'm not fully convinced that trans women should be allowed in female sports but I try to keep my mind open. Also a little side note it would be better of you didn't misgender these people. The fact that they, in your opinion, have an advantage in sports doesn't give you the right to not respect them
@wonkygustav4457
@wonkygustav4457 4 жыл бұрын
Why not separate them into trans athletes, they can’t deny they’re trans
@Borderose
@Borderose 4 жыл бұрын
They said that would be denying their identity.
@Alex.551
@Alex.551 4 жыл бұрын
Not enough people I think
@wonkygustav4457
@wonkygustav4457 4 жыл бұрын
James Foley then they’re all winners
@Alex.551
@Alex.551 4 жыл бұрын
@@wonkygustav4457 true hahahahh.I think they should be in the category where they were born,male or female,otherwise is not fair.
4 жыл бұрын
@@Borderose bs
@alanalymon3164
@alanalymon3164 11 ай бұрын
this country has very little respect for women’s sports to allow this foolishness to take place!
@YorktownUSA
@YorktownUSA 4 жыл бұрын
The real question is: is it fair for the competition?? Answer: No.
@TheLehumo
@TheLehumo 5 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry that female athletes have to deal with this awkward situation with trans people, especially because the backlash on this proportionally small group is so crazy
@exnihilo415
@exnihilo415 5 жыл бұрын
@Bezz80 Thanks for confirming the backlash is real.
@panikosofgrays1904
@panikosofgrays1904 5 жыл бұрын
Maximilian Heil it's a bit more than awkward since all women's sports will have to end. Well they will carry on but with men only.
@chrissyr5941
@chrissyr5941 4 жыл бұрын
You just made me cry.
@os6552
@os6552 4 жыл бұрын
@Alex True
@noname-zp1yh
@noname-zp1yh 4 жыл бұрын
@Alex oh wow I sure do feel bad! Oh no the spocky transes are gonna come and get me!!!1!,!1!
@abeeshaw
@abeeshaw 4 жыл бұрын
When you're weak enough to compete with men , so you decide to bully women instead !!
@thatsok2784
@thatsok2784 3 жыл бұрын
Frfr this women in mma got her skull cracked open by a transgender women and she wasn't even told she was transgender before the fight it's honeslty so messed up how do feminist support women getting there skulls bashed in by BIOLOGICAL men ?
@LPF7
@LPF7 3 жыл бұрын
*too weak
@ismailridwan6489
@ismailridwan6489 3 жыл бұрын
And feministard still don't see this as an inequality for woman.
@todorsamardzhiev144
@todorsamardzhiev144 3 жыл бұрын
A male body means you can train way harder, for a longer time, while recovering faster after every workout and maintaining a lower injury risk. And no transition can take the years Rachel had that tremendous advantage away from her. Okay, you say, but she wants to compete in sports, what do we do? Well, I want to be an astronaut, but due to health issues I never will. That's all. Life goes on.
@strawberryseason
@strawberryseason 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel can compete in the male division. Rachel is male.
@master-_-beavis5261
@master-_-beavis5261 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine lebron james identifying as a woman, then all the sudden he plays in the WNBA
@JohnDoe-do3fm
@JohnDoe-do3fm 3 жыл бұрын
It would bring viewers.
@frespects9624
@frespects9624 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-do3fm I'm pretty sure LeBron James makes more money than the wnba does.
@ashleyk8406
@ashleyk8406 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what he’d look like as a girl
@master-_-beavis5261
@master-_-beavis5261 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyk8406 in 2021 U may not have to wonder much longer luv😂😂😂😂
@sev7nnn
@sev7nnn 3 жыл бұрын
He would start scoring 800 point games
@IngaFrid
@IngaFrid 4 жыл бұрын
The _"Sport Is a Human Right"_ slogan's just too much. Nobody's denying transgender people to do sports. Rachel McKinnon could cycle 24/7 for the rest of her life and nobody would care. It's the competitive and financial elements in it that make it unfair.
@Yasser-2
@Yasser-2 4 жыл бұрын
Linda Stevensen can please say "his"
@feminaasty
@feminaasty 3 жыл бұрын
Bcs they need atention in everything.
@sidequestenjoyer7037
@sidequestenjoyer7037 3 жыл бұрын
His*
@TheLastCrow5150
@TheLastCrow5150 4 жыл бұрын
He literally said, "Legally and socially, we are". Notice they forgot to mention biology...
@JupitoraDas-ib8ee
@JupitoraDas-ib8ee 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly and that's what makes us real women . Biologi but they pretend like its nothing😒
@justaguy.6341
@justaguy.6341 4 жыл бұрын
Rafee, your problem begins with you thinking the "SPORT" is the issue lol.
4 жыл бұрын
They pretend biology is fictional
@ekkso5630
@ekkso5630 4 жыл бұрын
She, not he.
4 жыл бұрын
@@ekkso5630 he*
@mlytenin1
@mlytenin1 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched a couple of interviews with the Rachel chick, I've met so many people like her on the debate team, there's absolutely no way she doesn't realize that she's trolling just to get what she wants.
@gemusefachlummel6467
@gemusefachlummel6467 4 жыл бұрын
how her criticism is immediately shunned as hate speech...
@ThimpleGameth
@ThimpleGameth 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to JK Rowling, this is getting out of hand, where stating facts it’s taken immediately as hate speech.
@Eric-sy1xu
@Eric-sy1xu 4 жыл бұрын
Chromosomes aren't a metric to measure a system of sportsmanship. Chromosomes can't tell pretty much anything beyond giving a vague indicator of what genitalia they *_might_* be born with.
@E9X330
@E9X330 4 жыл бұрын
@@Eric-sy1xu Wrong, chromosomes ALWAYS determine your abilities
@tysfalsehood
@tysfalsehood 4 жыл бұрын
@@E9X330 Not ALWAYS, but partially, yes. There are men that are less able than some women.
@E9X330
@E9X330 4 жыл бұрын
@@tysfalsehood I never said that couldn't be the case, was not talking about sports exclusively
@mosl2te
@mosl2te 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this even a debatable topic? I refuse to engage in this goofiness. Biological women who support this cyclist competing against women are failing their daughters and sons.
@youllneverknow_123
@youllneverknow_123 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like this America, secession number 2
@sankalp2520
@sankalp2520 3 жыл бұрын
This is a debatable topic because not everyone thinks like you. You have to look into both the perspectives: as a "trans woman" and a "cis woman athlete treated unfairly". A wise person would always approach problems in an unbiased way. You say u refuse to engage in the so-called goofiness, yet you comment something provoking. lol
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 3 жыл бұрын
men beating women in women's sport. Stunning and Brave.
@bujharvard9313
@bujharvard9313 3 жыл бұрын
@@sankalp2520 It's not debatable because their entire argument is based on a falsehood, one that much of the world humours just to keep them from being sad. But logically, there is only one correct side.
@bujharvard9313
@bujharvard9313 3 жыл бұрын
@ Hormones aren't everything.
@michelleli6259
@michelleli6259 3 жыл бұрын
“This is about, are trans women actually women? And it’s clear that socially and legally we are so why exclude us from sport?” Well because you’ve just acknowledged that biologically you’re not?!
@unspecifiedunit9126
@unspecifiedunit9126 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they’re blinded by their ignorance and falsehood, it’s literally a man competing against women, this is absolutely ridiculous that this is even a debatable topic.
@axolotl3883
@axolotl3883 3 жыл бұрын
@@unspecifiedunit9126 the world right now is supposed to be research and technological advancement and then this.... I don't have any words how to describe it because you will be called transphobic or homophobic when you're just stating facts.
@jayjee735
@jayjee735 3 жыл бұрын
The IOC rules state you don't even have to be legally recognised as "female" to be eligible to the female categories...smh. Rules made for political reasons
@horatiohornblower741
@horatiohornblower741 3 жыл бұрын
It's not making aboubt no your not trans it's safety and fairness see how you feel when Tysom fury decides he's trans see how you loto feel
@mariusman3671
@mariusman3671 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@shanet771
@shanet771 3 жыл бұрын
If it really is so fair, someone tell me how many trans men have won titles compared to trans women?? 👀
@RitikRaj-qf6yp
@RitikRaj-qf6yp 3 жыл бұрын
That’s like saying if cricket is really fair how many world cups has Austrailia won compared to UAE . I do agree with trans not being fair but this is probably not the right way to explain it
@tj7935
@tj7935 3 жыл бұрын
It is one way to explain it. How come if you go one way (man->woman) you are more likely to smash women's records, but if you go the other way (woman->man) no male record has been beaten
@flamersshowsandmore3864
@flamersshowsandmore3864 3 жыл бұрын
Although there aren't any examples of trans men, there are stand-out ftm athletes such as Chris Mosier who got 2nd in a 2017 National Champion triathletes.
@RitikRaj-qf6yp
@RitikRaj-qf6yp 3 жыл бұрын
@@tj7935 I never said it is not a way to explain you get the point but not the right way to point it out
@ken-ic1ne
@ken-ic1ne 4 жыл бұрын
If sport is never level then why doesn't Rachel McKinnon compete against men?
@perapeki
@perapeki 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly my point if the only reason is to compete and not to take unfair advantage not to mention money recerds etc go compete with men . If this is right why they took 7 titles from Armstrong he could declare himself as a vampire maybe and that is why he needed the new blood . 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hardeepbabhauri7379
@hardeepbabhauri7379 4 жыл бұрын
People like him or whatever her are shame to lgbt community
@mijko79
@mijko79 3 жыл бұрын
@ken, 'cause "Rachel" doesn't stand a chance in male competition.
@retronerds6884
@retronerds6884 3 жыл бұрын
Cause he was trash
@TylerSpite
@TylerSpite 3 жыл бұрын
Those guys know what they’re doing, they know it’s not fair. They just don’t care.
@Sofia-te4dp
@Sofia-te4dp 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They know what they’re doing but they just ignore it for their 5 minutes of fame.
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 3 жыл бұрын
Don't really get any sponsors or name recognition being the 999th best male athlete.
@ACIMRobert
@ACIMRobert 3 жыл бұрын
It isnt like being trans is a choice
@ACIMRobert
@ACIMRobert 3 жыл бұрын
Like athletes dont have advantages
@TylerSpite
@TylerSpite 3 жыл бұрын
@@ACIMRobert I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.
@georgieee4906
@georgieee4906 3 жыл бұрын
So it’s just a coincidence that when a male athlete becomes a “woman” they suddenly are the best woman’s athlete ever 🙃
@mikeydudek2885
@mikeydudek2885 3 жыл бұрын
Especially when no one even knew their name before “Transitioning”
@xantherinekyle221
@xantherinekyle221 3 жыл бұрын
name one trans woman athlete who's the better than cis women atheletes.
@xantherinekyle221
@xantherinekyle221 3 жыл бұрын
if u are putting this comment, u must have some knowledge/fact for the support. Don't say this just came out of ur mind and u don't know any real life example of a trans woman athlete.
@sabinagrisi9726
@sabinagrisi9726 3 жыл бұрын
@@xantherinekyle221 Trans women in sports Tifanny Abreu, volleyball Chloe Anderson,[57] volleyball Alessia Almeri,[58] volleyball Mianne Bagger, golf Savannah Burton Parinya Charoenphol, Thai boxing JayCee Cooper,[59] Powerlifting, Roller Derby Roberta Cowell, motor sports Yanelle Del Mar Zape,[60] Track and Field Athena Del Rosario, football(soccer) and beach handball [61] Michelle Duff Michelle Dumaresq Fallon Fox, mixed martial arts Natalie van Gogh, cycling Laurel Hubbard, weightlifting Veronica Ivy,[62][63] cycling Lauren Jeska, fell running Janae Kroc Caroline Layt,[60][64][65] Rugby League, Rugby Union and Track and Field Bobbi Lancaster, golf Samantha 'Sammy' Walker, Football (Soccer)[66] Kellie Maloney Kirsti Miller,[67] Modern Pentathlon, Aquathon and AFL Terri Miller, track and field (high school) [68] Cate McGregor, cricket Hannah Mouncey, handball and Australian football Laura Nagtegaal,[69][70] disc golf Renée Richards, tennis Jaiyah Saelua Britney Stinson,[71] American football, baseball CeCe Telfer, track and field [72] Andraya Yearwood, track and field (high school) Charlie Christina Martin, motor sports Mara Gómez, football (soccer) [73]
@xantherinekyle221
@xantherinekyle221 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabinagrisi9726 I did not ask u to copy and paste from wikipedia page. I asked the original commenter if they knew anyone before commenting. Moreover, I asked name any trans woman who is better than cis women, who always win the first or second place in a competition.
@chingthianhoihvualnam4779
@chingthianhoihvualnam4779 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! "Tall Dutch and short Indonesian women! " There are weight categories. That case isn't the same with a biological male competing against a biological female. I feel at this point biological women don't have a voice.
@ghuanteng
@ghuanteng 4 жыл бұрын
0:44 "Why exclude us on sport?" Because you are a man participate in woman category
@dannysbudgies3108
@dannysbudgies3108 3 жыл бұрын
Exacly
@DMxalava
@DMxalava 3 жыл бұрын
Exclamation mark!
@oldbonniegamer938
@oldbonniegamer938 3 жыл бұрын
@Noobbish It'd be ironic if the same people now want them out
@dwaingambino1979
@dwaingambino1979 3 жыл бұрын
But its ok being called trans an not a woman. Kinda dumb
@buggs6608
@buggs6608 3 жыл бұрын
@abernsdorff make trans sports You shouldn't play with men as you are lowering your ability to play efficiently and you shouldn't play with women because you are naturally more efficient than them
@gdaebb9179
@gdaebb9179 4 жыл бұрын
He is talking about freaking height and not addressing the fact that he is a MALE with an XY chromosome.....Your height alone doesn't give you an advantage, your whole DNA makeup gives you advantage. This is basic biology. Men and Women are just not the SAME.
@no_0riginality937
@no_0riginality937 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently some Trans people don’t know simple biology at all
@subbot4417
@subbot4417 4 жыл бұрын
She*
@wildtatz
@wildtatz 4 жыл бұрын
@@subbot4417 he .
@subbot4417
@subbot4417 4 жыл бұрын
toëntje SHE was born a biologically male but is in the process of transitioning into a trans women.
@wildtatz
@wildtatz 4 жыл бұрын
@@subbot4417 no its He ..and doesn't matter how much they cut him up ...it always be a He
@stpeta17
@stpeta17 3 жыл бұрын
Did y’all see the UK guy who never lifted weights in his life and one day said he was a woman and won the champion! BS
@boivevo6301
@boivevo6301 3 жыл бұрын
He did lift tho ? Just not professional .
@NyanLama459
@NyanLama459 3 жыл бұрын
Zuby does lift tho. An average man who doesn't workout has zero chance of beating the womens record without training. Don't discredit women that much...
@stpeta17
@stpeta17 3 жыл бұрын
@@NyanLama459 I was not aware he had previously lifted weights however it does nothing to discredit what I said, for it is very unfair for biological males to compete against biological females. Zuby is still an effective example of how easy it is to also just for no reason to say your female, and thus win a women’s trophy. He was not even a trans person. But always men competing against women is wrong. It’s ridiculous because the very reason we made separate classes for men and women is to make it fair. I think trans people should be in there own class, separate from biological men and women. That would be fair. This women claims she doesn’t want to disrupt the Olympics but that is precisely what she’s doing and then she should have no problem competing in her own class against other trans only. It needs to be fair.
@alexanderfox-robinson4910
@alexanderfox-robinson4910 3 жыл бұрын
@@stpeta17 it would be a freak show
@unluckygamer692
@unluckygamer692 3 жыл бұрын
@@stpeta17 I'm an above average lifter for a male, if I were a female I'd be a world champion.
@lloydgrapilon6203
@lloydgrapilon6203 3 жыл бұрын
Romans 1:18 For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way,
@psc698
@psc698 4 жыл бұрын
"Sport is a human right." That might be the single dumbest quote I've heard.
@bdmc6583
@bdmc6583 4 жыл бұрын
No I've heard one that is worse. The guy who insists he is a girl and wants to be allowed to smash females in weightlifting was asked why he should be able to compete against women and he literally replied "Why not?" Yea.
@Skaelya
@Skaelya 4 жыл бұрын
well actually it is, doing sport doesn't interfere with others right, and when a right doesn't interfere with other right then it's a human right. but it's totaly irrelevent here thoo...
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'5. I'm too short for the NBA. I want to wear stilts because I have talent but was born this way (short).
@bdmc6583
@bdmc6583 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasondashney no! NO!! You walk right in there and you TELL them that you are 6'4" because you SAID SO and that they are NOT going to "invalidate you" or "erase you existence" by saying that you aren't!
@StoneHavel
@StoneHavel 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasondashney just identify as 7'0" lol
@MrJakes555
@MrJakes555 3 жыл бұрын
Davies is a legend for protecting women's sport. Yes, everyone should have the right to compete in sport, but it must be done on a level playing field. - Men against Men - Women against Women - Trans Women against Trans Women - Trans Men against Trans Men - Open Games (Where all compete with no limit to the amount of hormones or drugs to enhance performance, if they decide to take performance enhancing drugs or not) If boundaries are clearly defined it will stop people taking advantage of their biological gifts to supress other genders.
@aubreynaarcher8916
@aubreynaarcher8916 3 жыл бұрын
This was beautifully said. 100% agree.
@davidvergel1533
@davidvergel1533 3 жыл бұрын
The open games with no limits on drugs and hormone use sounds lit 🔥. Imagine a crackhead’s time on the one mile. And the wrestling and boxing matches from people on roids. In all seriousness though this really does solve the problem just give them their own division and then have an open division to see who’s really the best of the best.
@horminmangfi5653
@horminmangfi5653 3 жыл бұрын
Well, some people argue that black people have a genetic advantage, so they have to be separated Do you agree?
@aubreynaarcher8916
@aubreynaarcher8916 3 жыл бұрын
@@horminmangfi5653 By that premise, wouldnt you be implying that white people have an intellectual advantage?
@horminmangfi5653
@horminmangfi5653 3 жыл бұрын
@@aubreynaarcher8916 , that's the kind of point that I am making People are up on stereotypes and divisions So I want to see the OP's response How does he behave when it's about race
@khonsuwerk9757
@khonsuwerk9757 3 жыл бұрын
Let The Games Begin,... “The Transgendered Games”. Let them complete amongst themselves. Problem solved.
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873 3 жыл бұрын
This, or stay at their respective biological league
@rauljuarez296
@rauljuarez296 3 жыл бұрын
Lol the TransOlympics Where the "Women" outperform the "men" events lol
@Akmong1988
@Akmong1988 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mikeydudek2885
@mikeydudek2885 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah except that creates another problem. Revenue. People barely pay attention to the WNBA, so no ones gonna watch whatever league that would be. I’m not supporting Trans athletes cause It’s obviously and insultingly unfair, but I’m just saying that I don’t think that solution would solve anything. Although I could be totally wrong and it could be a sensation, ironic or otherwise.
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeydudek2885 totally agree, ofc its just a theoritical solution, the reason why it will not run well is probably like you said
@lepzjr8405
@lepzjr8405 3 жыл бұрын
watch the amount of "transgender women" that jump into a boxing ring for the Olympics
@twistedtrailerparktales2126
@twistedtrailerparktales2126 4 жыл бұрын
Trans Woman: it's so unnecessary to keep woman and mens sports separate we're all the same. Okay so compete as the gender you were born as. Trans Woman: No I have to compete against biological woman or not at all.
@YorktownUSA
@YorktownUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@txnafish
@txnafish 4 жыл бұрын
to be fair due to how estrogen affects the male body it would be grossly unfair to set trans women against men but at the same time it's not any less unfair to pit trans women against women it's easiest to segregate them into their own category. ppl who don't think this is fair don't understand how UNFAIR it is for trans women to compete against women.
@chinesepropotato2371
@chinesepropotato2371 4 жыл бұрын
Next up: motrocyclist who identifies as bicyclist wins olympic games.
@iceyreelz3228
@iceyreelz3228 4 жыл бұрын
YEET GAMING very underrated comment I’m dying
@Justwanthavefun_100
@Justwanthavefun_100 4 жыл бұрын
Hey ! Don’t insult motorcyclist 🤣
@johnsmith6974
@johnsmith6974 4 жыл бұрын
Wait....is it a harley or a Honda?
@wreagfe
@wreagfe 4 жыл бұрын
@@nebulabunny8633 transphobe is a made up term specifically invented to weaponize fake victimhood. Using it just exposes yourself as a virtue signaller thriving on mentioned victimhood.
@johnsmith6974
@johnsmith6974 4 жыл бұрын
@@nebulabunny8633 Are you Honda or Harley?
@innajogern2909
@innajogern2909 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great step backwards for women’s rights.
@jakovklaric7802
@jakovklaric7802 4 жыл бұрын
Humanity more precise
@innajogern2909
@innajogern2909 4 жыл бұрын
Jakov Klarić I don’t disagree. I am arguing specifically for women’s rights bc these individuals want to marginalize themselves like this is an act of civil liberty and freedom that benefits everyone,but you don’t see female to make transgender athletes competing in the male space because...well, the biological difference is a disadvantage for those particular athletes.
@Elijah-gt6jh
@Elijah-gt6jh 4 жыл бұрын
We're evolving, just backwards.
@meowzillaaa
@meowzillaaa 4 жыл бұрын
TERF ALERT
@DantesInferno96
@DantesInferno96 4 жыл бұрын
It's as much as 10 step backwards honestly. In the male scenario it's much more possible for a trained man to beat a female to male trans man. But women's bodies are different and a trans woman who takes steroids would have an unfair advantage.
@Tglass
@Tglass 3 жыл бұрын
If it is an equal race after 12 months of suppressing testosterone in trans women, why don't we see trans men who have boosted testosterone competing against biological men? I've not heard of a single controversial story about that crossover.
@Nicko42PA
@Nicko42PA 4 жыл бұрын
"Sport is never level" Ok let's just merge the mens and women's divisions. Problem solved.
@danyyilbun6736
@danyyilbun6736 4 жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait wait wait, if they do that, then trans athletes will stop winning, we can't have that, why did they transition then
@kramsilverbridge1242
@kramsilverbridge1242 4 жыл бұрын
@@danyyilbun6736 put them in a cage against khabib, teach women who transition to never cross that bridge again
@happycamper4429
@happycamper4429 4 жыл бұрын
@@kramsilverbridge1242 maybe that would work!! Didnt they say Ronda Rousey was the best 135 lb fighter in the world and beat professional men in training? She wouldn't cause she knows she wouldn't have a chance.
@Theo-bk6qj
@Theo-bk6qj 4 жыл бұрын
Then men more likely to win since men has more advantages
@danyyilbun6736
@danyyilbun6736 4 жыл бұрын
@@Theo-bk6qj bro, this post makes exactly this point 😆👍
@BroGoPro235
@BroGoPro235 4 жыл бұрын
the olymics will soon be 50% men and 50% men acting like women
@tonyhoiland7481
@tonyhoiland7481 4 жыл бұрын
Can't I use your quote? lol Love it!
@Mango-nf2wn
@Mango-nf2wn 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the transphobic comment I was looking for
@BroGoPro235
@BroGoPro235 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mango-nf2wn im glad you found it
@abgeth
@abgeth 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mango-nf2wn ah yes the clueless idiot I was looking for...
@Allgreen69
@Allgreen69 4 жыл бұрын
PTB ay more men dominating
@Verity_Truth666
@Verity_Truth666 4 жыл бұрын
Average male athletes cheating their way to women's medals.
@kmagnet4181
@kmagnet4181 4 жыл бұрын
In gaming terms, trans females are OP and needs a massive nerf to balance things out.
@Camlegowtruck
@Camlegowtruck 4 жыл бұрын
@@kmagnet4181 cringe
@SnakeSagacity
@SnakeSagacity 4 жыл бұрын
@@kmagnet4181 another hormone pump and flush to nerf themselves. Isn't sports supposed to be a celebration of human physical capability? Hormone pumpers should be treated like doping user, they're denying their own physical capability.
@Zara-rc8vf
@Zara-rc8vf 4 жыл бұрын
Transphobic, verrryyy ruudee👎👎
@miroleminen1411
@miroleminen1411 4 жыл бұрын
It'no surprise that they want to cheat. How could you live as a true professional athlete if you can't live with your own gender.
@luvghd
@luvghd 3 жыл бұрын
As an ex competitive athlete this makes me so angry, regardless during puberty they have had the opportunity to grow bigger muscles. I do not hate Trans but as an ex athlete hate female sports but being fair.
@potemkin8606
@potemkin8606 5 жыл бұрын
literally the stupidest debate out there
@dustintacohands1107
@dustintacohands1107 5 жыл бұрын
I have no faith in our leaders
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Just let them do their thing. How haven’t people thought that trans women usually have takes estrogen?
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielmay7266 Taking estrogen is irrelevant, if they have gone through any puberty without hormone blockers, they have a physiological advantage that no amount of estrogen is going to compensate for taking as an adult.
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. who cares. It doesn't affect the one's competitions and that is all that matters.
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 5 жыл бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff I forgot to mention that over time it suppresses testosterone levels to the point where women, trans or not are closer to each other than they are closer to men. That's why I put the emphasis on the estrogen.
@fennecfox9490
@fennecfox9490 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so stressed and sad for all the female athletes out there right now who are going to miss out on their proper recognition because the trans participants will win. This is so unfair.
@NyanyiC
@NyanyiC 4 жыл бұрын
This issue makes me so mad. Ladies are missing out on university scholarships because cause of this mess
@megansmallwood3409
@megansmallwood3409 4 жыл бұрын
Yes yes thank you! 100% agree!
@TimCarter
@TimCarter 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many hard working female students lost out on the scholarships they earned because males beat them at the state finals.
@shieldbrother7425
@shieldbrother7425 3 жыл бұрын
@@NyanyiC people are missing out, not just women
@taztoon3387
@taztoon3387 3 жыл бұрын
Every athlete should refuse to compete against these people then something might be done.
@junkandgunk
@junkandgunk 4 жыл бұрын
"LEGALLY female" probably the most meaningless defense i've heard in a long time
@smilesxo06
@smilesxo06 4 жыл бұрын
yup since it's just an M or F on a piece of paper, i look at Rachel and I see a man doesn't matter if he puts on some makeup and dyes his hair. Edit: *I AM NOT TRANSPHOBIC* , as long as what your doing isn't hurting or effecting anyone negatively, I don't care, but in this situation it is. Why is it whenever someone talks about trans people they're instantly labeled transphobic?
@khanhax3873
@khanhax3873 4 жыл бұрын
@@smilesxo06 in based hungary thats banned now lol
@connieshoes9564
@connieshoes9564 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah feminism also
@chrism3790
@chrism3790 4 жыл бұрын
We all know how everything that is legal also conforms to common sense. The constitution shapes reality, don't you know?
@junkandgunk
@junkandgunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrism3790 nice sarcasm
@tylerdordon99
@tylerdordon99 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that people are even having q debate over this is simply insane
@PUNKF001
@PUNKF001 3 жыл бұрын
“Are trans women actually women? Legally and social we are” But physically? You know, the bit that gives you a huge advantage over women? I dont think anyone wants to exclude trans athletes, we just dont like seeing an unfair competition.
@charvikripalani2270
@charvikripalani2270 3 жыл бұрын
Scientific fact is that 1) A trans woman on HRT is significantly weaker than a cis man, forcing them to compete with cis men would put them at a disadvantage because hormones make them a lot weaker than the average male. Its not fair for trans women on hormones for over a year to be forced to compete with men. 2) if you compare and study a woman who happens to be trans after she has has been on HRT for a year and a woman who happens be cis there's sometimes negligible to no difference between the competitive stats. Why would the Olympics approve trans women under these hormone conditions if it wasn't scientific for over a decade even?
@PUNKF001
@PUNKF001 3 жыл бұрын
@@charvikripalani2270 talk about ignorant. It’s like you people have never done any sort of sports with the opposite gender 😂 Your first point is correct but you miss out the part where its not fair to women for trans women to compete with women. However It’s a scientific fact that 1) men have much bigger hearts, lungs, bone density, muscle mass NONE of which are going to change with a bit of oestrogen pumped into their body. 2) There are no trans males suddenly smashing world record yet trans males are suddenly obliterating women’s records and their sport. Why is this? Its almost like their is a biological difference between male and female 🤪 Having trans women compete with women will be the death of womens sports and all of their world records will be beaten. However, to me, having a trans only record/competition seems like exclusion. I don’t know what the right answer is, but for gods sake stop ignoring facts for the sake of being woke.
@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459
@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 3 жыл бұрын
@@PUNKF001 Laurel Hubbard isn’t breaking many records. They can’t even win a world medal lol. Then again, everyone in weightlifting is pumped full of testosterone.
@brittongodman7769
@brittongodman7769 3 жыл бұрын
IF, biologically you are not a woman, then you are NOT A WOMAN,,,,,,, it's simple.
@PUNKF001
@PUNKF001 3 жыл бұрын
@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 one example of an old mediocre weight lifter. She should be trouncing her opposition. Maybe she tanked on purpose so people like you can say “see there is no difference” and she can keep her job. I swear most people act like once they transition, suddenly they are on the same level as women, imagine if Eddie Hall did some HRT for a year, do you really think he wouldn’t annihilate all the females he could compete with 😂
@anacariananacarian915
@anacariananacarian915 4 жыл бұрын
Women need to stick together to stop this nonsense of men competing against women. This will destroy women's sport
@death2pc
@death2pc 4 жыл бұрын
Well, of course. But that means violating LIBERALISM and THAT is not allowed....................
@CommonMan77777
@CommonMan77777 4 жыл бұрын
Not only women. As a man I would totally support you. It is totally unfair that women athletes are forced to compete against basically men.
@rightlibertarian8355
@rightlibertarian8355 4 жыл бұрын
No, it won't destroy women's sport. It will destroy feminism.
@havokzthename
@havokzthename 4 жыл бұрын
Meh. When women wanted equality to join men sports and called men "feminist" because men thought it wouldnt be fair it was ok but now MEN want to transition to WOMEN sports and now its not fair...Its always something.
@dRoscoAZ
@dRoscoAZ 4 жыл бұрын
This is not Male nonsense, this is human nonsense. Because clearly the support of a large amount of cis females has allowed us to get where we are now. I will stand by women to protect them from this idiocy!
@williamhealy6381
@williamhealy6381 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a women, training ur whole life Being the best u can be Only to come second to a trans women
@dannybenhur6123
@dannybenhur6123 4 жыл бұрын
@@useraccount1087 trans woman and trans man are confusing to me...lol EX-Man and EX-Woman would be appropriate...lol
@williamhealy6381
@williamhealy6381 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannybenhur6123 I believe the name X-Men is taken
@roberttakacs2312
@roberttakacs2312 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamhealy6381 best ive seen all day you got me laughin😂😂
@daisigner
@daisigner 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannybenhur6123 No they aren't appropriate and what's appropriate to you doesn't matter! Transwomen shouldn't compete with cis women but neither should you think your ignorance is valid or appropriate!
@lucaslzt
@lucaslzt 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannybenhur6123 Tip: trans people refer to themselves with their current gender, ie a trans woman considers herself a woman (and wasn't before)
@moniquekova9185
@moniquekova9185 Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the feminists? Their silence is deafening.
@maurakids4liberty147
@maurakids4liberty147 4 жыл бұрын
1:50 - "Sport is a Human Right" No, life, liberty, and property are human rights.
@kyliemiller173
@kyliemiller173 4 жыл бұрын
the problem with that argument is that they can claim that cis women aren’t entitled to sports either, if they can’t be. i’m not disagreeing with you, im just saying that it could be used against you.
@irfankhalil9225
@irfankhalil9225 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyliemiller173 Cis women??? You mean Women!!
@erickruiz9960
@erickruiz9960 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with not permitting trans women in normal women competition. The physical difference between biological men and women has always been an irrefutable fact.
@arminius6506
@arminius6506 5 жыл бұрын
They doesn't believe in Science and Biology 😉
@loando7812
@loando7812 5 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to understand the logic of our world now.
@maroua120
@maroua120 5 жыл бұрын
2+2=5
@michaelxz1305
@michaelxz1305 5 жыл бұрын
easy... one or two minority voices shout really loudly on twitter and other social networks about perceived injustices... then obviously this "story" has to be covered by all the (liberal) media... so it just blows everything out of proportion..
@thomassankala6043
@thomassankala6043 4 жыл бұрын
It's not you only ,the liberal are fool. don't try to understand be yourself .for me this athletes are man
@sancho7863
@sancho7863 4 жыл бұрын
Progressives are not liberals. Modern progressives are asking for chaos, though, they probably don’t realize this because they’re driven by a sense of self righteousness. They’re dangerous people.
@Master-Bait
@Master-Bait 4 жыл бұрын
logic is hateful, according to them
@jannetguarte3656
@jannetguarte3656 Жыл бұрын
That cyclist should not compete with women.
@honoraryanglo2929
@honoraryanglo2929 4 жыл бұрын
South Park already made this clear
@Taporeee
@Taporeee 4 жыл бұрын
STRONG WOMANNN
@faflamingo2193
@faflamingo2193 4 жыл бұрын
Not clear enough
@MakkerDon
@MakkerDon 4 жыл бұрын
Dumb people dont watch south park, its too deep for them
@michaelking2050
@michaelking2050 3 жыл бұрын
The best part of this interview was when the interviewer started stating the differences/advantages between male and females in sports. The transwoman athlete said "you are talking about "the elite" level though". Reporter said, "arent you competing at the elite level though?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭
@darkcat6530
@darkcat6530 3 жыл бұрын
Like bruh we aren't even talking about some random club in a city that u Pay 50 Bucks a week to keep urself in a condition
@JeffSmith-pl2pj
@JeffSmith-pl2pj 3 жыл бұрын
It's true at every level.
@EvilMonkey7818
@EvilMonkey7818 3 жыл бұрын
It's at every level. After running HS track for just 2 years as a boy if I were competing as a girl instead, I'd have broken at least 3 track and 3 field event state records. Maybe 4 each actually.
@THEBIGZBEAR
@THEBIGZBEAR 3 жыл бұрын
Which interview was this please? It's not in this clip
@thienminh7729
@thienminh7729 3 жыл бұрын
which part were you talking about sir ?
@jeffreyjuico2542
@jeffreyjuico2542 3 жыл бұрын
Transgender athletes must have a separate competition of their own to be fair. Biological women must compete with their sport. There is no hate there, we are just arguing for the sake of fairness and establishment of integrity of the sport and competition.
@jamiemidge4983
@jamiemidge4983 3 жыл бұрын
I thought freak shows were banned in the 80s. But seriously who would actually watch that?
@AndTecks
@AndTecks 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiemidge4983 30 trans people would.
@lyna7038
@lyna7038 3 жыл бұрын
Yes for example
@triciacowen5529
@triciacowen5529 3 жыл бұрын
Separate but equal? That didn’t turn out so well…
@BigWhite002
@BigWhite002 3 жыл бұрын
Sad to see how small the trans population is and how much power they have in the world.
@amanrush7722
@amanrush7722 9 ай бұрын
I blamed the women for not willing to take a stand. Boycott!! Only money can make them change the rules.
@thehoneyguy5321
@thehoneyguy5321 3 жыл бұрын
What the reporter should have into'd her as: Rachel was a mediocre nobody when competing against other men, but now she is beating women to gain fame wealth and endorsements. Empowerment.
@youjustgotburned3980
@youjustgotburned3980 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't trans compete with other trans? Oh wait..cz they'll lose. So let them compete with women instead Man,this is why Aliens never visit us. Earth is a chaotic planet
@daniellemeyer8568
@daniellemeyer8568 3 жыл бұрын
She only started sport cycling at age 30+ when she moved to Charleston but it didn't have a strong badminton scene. Less than 6 years later she wins a world Women's record. But yeah she had "no competitive advantage"... right. Most professional athletes have been competing and training since they were very young. Lance Armstrong won his first "Kid's Triathlon" at age 13.
@Taroslushstudio
@Taroslushstudio 3 жыл бұрын
Period pooh
@topbadgun
@topbadgun 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that's a loser in his former category, not switch team for his own advantage. This is a disgrace for feminist. This trans has no shame for take all hard work/prepare/training of other woman. Totally outrage.
@MrEric2cu
@MrEric2cu 3 жыл бұрын
So true! Name one female who identifies as a man that won anything?
@Xerxezkov
@Xerxezkov 5 жыл бұрын
When you couldn't win in a male category…
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 5 жыл бұрын
... that they never competed in.
@Rock_Girl_Daze
@Rock_Girl_Daze 5 жыл бұрын
Lưu Phương exactly!
@Ryan-oy7cz
@Ryan-oy7cz 5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@junkandgunk
@junkandgunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielmay7266 because they immediately gave up
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 4 жыл бұрын
DigBloopers, in what? The male category? They never even competed in it. :D
@bmmz1435
@bmmz1435 4 жыл бұрын
They just think about themselves, it's selfish nothing more, fairness would be if they had a class of their own.
@hastsoul334neko
@hastsoul334neko 4 жыл бұрын
Ye
@Andrew-yl7lm
@Andrew-yl7lm 4 жыл бұрын
They argue that there aren't enough trans people to make a league I believe. Still, it's just people complaining they can't have their cake and eat it imo.
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 4 жыл бұрын
It's just infuriating how many girls in high school sports have had their dreams crushed by a man PRETENDING to be a woman because of butthurt liberals in schools.
@OwGash
@OwGash 4 жыл бұрын
well duh, lots of people go fake-trans just to get free wins
@gfkjfjfnj
@gfkjfjfnj 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%, give them their own category
@moradsarwari864
@moradsarwari864 3 жыл бұрын
Now I know how to achieve my dream of becoming a gold medalist.
@BarriosGroupie
@BarriosGroupie 4 жыл бұрын
The rule is simple: if your testosterone levels weren't maintained at the female average during puberty, then you shouldn't be allowed to compete as an adult woman.
@eliisorpeliisorp1333
@eliisorpeliisorp1333 4 жыл бұрын
Even if they had maintained a female average of testosterone during puberty they still will end up stronger than women
@peterpaullee9952
@peterpaullee9952 4 жыл бұрын
Trans athletes may play in woman category if their transition starts before puberty
@jiminsthighsrapmonsdimples6240
@jiminsthighsrapmonsdimples6240 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Paul Lee which is imo not right as well. Having kids changing genders isn't it.
@vilmospalik1480
@vilmospalik1480 4 жыл бұрын
Barrios Groupie yes but giving your child hormomes when they’re under developed is also a very controversial idea
@bibi-we4lg
@bibi-we4lg 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterpaullee9952 This is almost impossible, and I'd say cruel. Allowing kids to transition is a terrible idea, since they're young and can change their mind in the future. Puberty usually starts when you're 10-12, but I know people (including myself) that got into puberty at 8. It's just not fair. It's also not healthy for the transgender athletes.
@nielsssg
@nielsssg 4 жыл бұрын
This kind of inclusion is going to destroy women's sport
@matrixmirage2148
@matrixmirage2148 4 жыл бұрын
They brought this on themselves 🤷‍♂️
@Grr-nz7zj
@Grr-nz7zj 4 жыл бұрын
I agree Nox
@scottwallace9035
@scottwallace9035 4 жыл бұрын
No great loss, have you tried watching women football??
@matrixmirage2148
@matrixmirage2148 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottwallace9035 You mean, "watching paint dry"?
@caitlinlloyd5001
@caitlinlloyd5001 4 жыл бұрын
@@matrixmirage2148 How?
@Maya-sv1pz
@Maya-sv1pz 4 жыл бұрын
one day, a teacher lay out a paper basket in front of the class and asked his students to throw a paper ball each into the basket. the rule being, you have to do it sitting from your desk. So naturally the front line students get to score while the rows after them gets progressively lower scores. At the end of the game the last few rows of students complain that this is unfair and nobody from the first row say a word. Moral of the story: those with unfair advantages never complain. Of course most trans will defend that they should compete with the gender they identify as, especially male to female trans, they are reaping the unfair advantage. duh
@rickitysplitz7035
@rickitysplitz7035 4 жыл бұрын
@@nebulabunny8633 What if those cis people identify? I am making a joke.
@cilldaracyclist2822
@cilldaracyclist2822 4 жыл бұрын
Enough of this "cis" bs.... Man and woman that's all there is.
@chantellethecool1
@chantellethecool1 Жыл бұрын
Why can’t trans people be in their own category?!?! That’s more fair
@rocklee1381
@rocklee1381 4 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when people agree more with feelings than facts
@varunjaihind3904
@varunjaihind3904 4 жыл бұрын
Makes a lot of sense in these times.
@myamdane6895
@myamdane6895 4 жыл бұрын
The same thing is happening with George Floyd.
@センナ-h4c
@センナ-h4c 4 жыл бұрын
It's just another Western thing, feelings over facts, they have too much freedom
@myamdane6895
@myamdane6895 4 жыл бұрын
@@センナ-h4c You sound like an Arab
@センナ-h4c
@センナ-h4c 4 жыл бұрын
@@myamdane6895 lol
@Mipeal
@Mipeal 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that this needs to be discussed because its not obvious for some people is sad actually. It even disrespects the whole concept of equality
@Stack4Freedom
@Stack4Freedom 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr this is unfair for women who have dedicated their entire lives to a sport and then when it comes times to use this hard earned skill they are being put up against "women" who have a unfair biological advantage over the rest
@krusenator123
@krusenator123 4 жыл бұрын
It disrespects the concept of logic and having a brain at all lol
@realityjunkie09
@realityjunkie09 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at this pink hair individual....i don't wanna competite against him/her and I'm a dude!
@lenardtorres1965
@lenardtorres1965 4 жыл бұрын
Is this even a question? Imagine Shaq changing his gender and joining woman's basketball
@christiana5453
@christiana5453 4 жыл бұрын
Lenard Torres he’d dominate without question
@frozenkilt
@frozenkilt 4 жыл бұрын
@@christiana5453 Yeah, but still noone would be watching ;)
@sktrudel
@sktrudel 4 жыл бұрын
But funny enough, it's not top male athletes who do this, they'd still be mediocre as males.
@sktrudel
@sktrudel 4 жыл бұрын
I think, that in this we reap what was sowed by ultra liberal Americans who insist that all difference is natural and has to be accepted by the majority. It is now almost impossible to debate on gender, as you will be called a bigot for doing so. Right or wrong, this is the consequence of saying that a person should be celebrated for being different, once you take it to the extreme. Who are you then to deny this trans woman the right to compete at the highest level? Of course once you start wading out of very liberal countries, letting trans women compete with women becomes laughable. In conservative countries the idea is shocking. I don't think world politics is ready to accomodate recent American legal creations.
@lenardtorres1965
@lenardtorres1965 4 жыл бұрын
@@sktrudel what about the infamous Brucie?. Yes America has become too Liberal, They should create a new category and label it transgenders, idk what you think of that idea, but it seems fair to me
@freddypizza3832
@freddypizza3832 3 жыл бұрын
No, trans athletes dont have an unfair advantage. Paraplegics can also beat Usain Bolt in a 40 m dash. Giraffes can successfully swim across entire oceans. 1 + 1 equals 56.
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