Are the rules for trans athletes fair?

Transgender athletes may take part in the Olympic Games for the first time. But allowing transgender women to compete in women’s sport is provoking a heated debate about inclusion and fairness.
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[@gilbertg7]

In sport, women and men categories weren't created because they felt different. It's because they are physically different. It's as if a boxing superweight said he should compete in the lightweight category because he feels lighter

[@KonSimpl72]

Spot on.

[@johnny2351]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@graysonjohnson8466]

Well said

[@geezalee1677]

Spot on

[@yuno2512]

Exactly

[@jessed1709]

No one in their right mind thinks a biological male should be permitted to compete as a women. This isn't 'controversial', it's patently absurd.

[@AtamMardes]

The only way it would be fair is to have a new athletic category for transgender males and another one for transgender females.

[@danielmay7266]

atam mardes, not enough people therefore not reasonable.

[@danielmay7266]

You do realize that MTF trans people take estrogen? The amount of it they take makes them much closer to women than men when it comes to athletic ability.

[@asn9337]

@@danielmay7266 taking oestrogen means nothing! no amount of oral or injected oestrogen will undo the organizational effects of androgens during puberty. on average, individuals who have gone through puberty as males will have height, strength, speed on their side. I support people embracing their own unique sexuality but this insistence on competing in female events after a mtf transition has nothing to do with an individual being allowed their own private life.

[@Naskinlahtaaja]

The problem here is that the people who keep saying that MtF women who have undergone a year of testosterone suppression still retain a significant competitive advantage don't actually have any evidence to support their claim outside of "lol I'm just right". This lack of evidence is exactly why the IOC hasn't changed their rules in the past couple years despite how much it's been talked about.

[@symihope]

“it’s clear that legally and socially we are” yes but this is entirely an issue of biology

[@yep.1106]

They also aren’t legally, they are always recognised as their own gender for medical and legal reasons...

[@peanutbuttervibes1278]

G Didn’t we stop segregation like...60 years ago.

[@MovieRiotHD]

Even nor socially. No one wants to date a Transgender..

[@DeclinedMercy]

Give them an inch, they take a mile

[@RainyRunningRiver]

Yah because wearing black face is evil yet dressing up as a caricature of an entire gender is fine.

[@cgomez1104]

Nothing against trans people, they are human and deserve respect. But we are talking about sports and fairness, and in this context there is an unfair advantage.

[@omario2069]

Well put~

[@ry0usama511]

@James Hampton true, trans people basically denies who they are, why would they deserve respect when they cant respect their own

[@garenthal9638]

Yes but if you believe trans women are women then it is no different than lebron having a biological advantage than a 5 foot 6 weak man

[@garenthal9638]

@@ObeseGorilla229 people are born with biological advantages. If you really believe trans women are women then it’s no different

[@duskyflathead4483]

@@garenthal9638 no its not, there are 2 clear physical distinctions in biology, race isnt one of them.

[@pottingsoil]

If they didn't have an advantage they obviously wouldn't be smashing every record.

[@trash_girlfriend]

How many records have they been smashing

[@pottingsoil]

@@trash_girlfriend Weightlifting records across the board (some trans have been stripped of records because they were deemed our fakr competitors like in Richmond), NCAA records across the board most most notably in the 200, 400, 800, long jump, and high jump, high school track and CC records, and in cycling. You can find entire lists on articles if you just go a simple Google search. It's really depressing that they're allowed to compete.

[@Hayanomie]

@@pottingsoil what a time to be alive.

[@thebaddestogre-3698]

@@trash_girlfriend if you would be open minded with the news you read and the facts you accept, other people wouldn't have to google for you.

[@prokopf-9332]

And to put into context they make up the smallest proportion of athletes. I think one crucial element with the Olympics is that an athlete who gets gold recieves up to several 100 k from his respective country. Every country has a different scheme, most are lower, but it still is a significant sum for an amateur. Now I'm not saying this is the main reason or in fact any reason for the people involved. I dont think anyone would undergo gendertreatment for the money. But it is an incentive for them to get recognized in normal Olympics since separate transgender Olympics would be like Paralympics. Little to no financial gain.

[@SH8ZIA]

Why is this even a debate. Women’s sports are being wrecked and everyone is standing by? So called experts!!!

[@zoemacdonald6297]

@Ayanokoji women themselves allowing it? Literally in almost all the videos I've watched on this have been WOMEN saying that is unfair.

[@TheSim4e90]

I'm a 6.3 male with 220 pound.... I'm going to call my self a woman and play basketball in the women's category, better yet i will make a all male team and win in the women's category.

[@tarnw3301]

There was an article that talked about how there are a lot of rich white men lobbying for the trans agenda. Focus on rich. With money dances the dog, and so have the so called "experts" danced.

[@FinnCh979]

@oskrrr92 the trans ppl and LGBT thing are just political tool for government to gain more control and put more regulations. the people that support trans ppl hate trans ppl themselves. tell 100 liberal men to date trans women and go in bed with them and see how many will do it and see the hypocrisy falls out.

[@Nighttask70]

Honestly I just think we can make another Category for the trans women or men because it will be fair in that way . I support trans people honestly but it is unfair about this situation for women in that sport

[@alexmikhylov]

to be a professional athlete is not a human right

[@danielmay7266]

No, but having people recognize your gender. Also, everyone who can qualify (and doesn't cause any trouble) should be able to compete.

[@GabrielGabeRodriguez]

@@danielmay7266 how about no? This whole gender identity is up rooting societal norms we didn't even know we had! Plain ridiculous I say

[@danielmay7266]

Gabriel Rodriguez, I find this personal as I’m a non binary track runner. All I want is for people to try to use the right pronouns and not make a problem out of how I’m not cis. Can you just stop being transphobic please?

[@missjayspeechley9213]

@@GabrielGabeRodriguez So "Oh no, something new. But I don't want to educate myself so I'll just say no because it's easier". Wow that is so grown up

[@alexmikhylov]

@@danielmay7266 trans athletes cause trouble

[@mort2747]

How tf do people not see how this is going to destroy women’s sport

[@williamfoster6814]

Have we seen any trans men in men's sports? Not that I've noticed. Hm wonder why

[@crazycrackheadbubblegums9959]

humans dont care about women nor do women raise their voices

[@hellohowareyou7495]

I'd be more than happy to let it happen, let those feminist deal with it since they want equality, let the left destroy each other.

[@cassjaimedurantsoutouras8118]

Crazy how Laurel Hubbard competed in the Summer Olympics as a trans woman and won no medals. Seems like women's sport is still intact to me...

[@thesecretlifeofbuns4336]

@@hellohowareyou7495 yeah, no. This is against feminism. We don't want men dominating women's sports and this is NOT equality.

[@Daniel_Anthony]

This whole thing is the biggest joke of our time

[@cloudunknown]

just another human bad troll

[@mattsspelman1457]

As ridiculous as flat earthers are they haven't got a patch on these wack jobs.

[@sulk1992]

Bruce Jenner: woman of the year...

[@t-real9054]

sulk1992 Enough said

[@al.s.3277]

It is so unfair that they let them compete like this. The categories for men and women weren’t for sexism. But because of our differences in our biology.

[@kshitijr7898]

Imagine being so woke, that you start repression of women...

[@kyliemiller173]

right? it’s a huge slap in the face when people who claimed to be feminists and want to fight against the domestic violence against women and want equality ignore that men are physically stronger. we aren’t scared to walk alone at night because of how men look, but because we all know they can easily overpower and hurt us

[@mop2254]

Just another sociopath hijacking the message for their own gains.

[@Tall-Cool-Drink]

Ironic, isn't it?

[@tiredgardener]

Those making these calls are not feminist, they are misogynists. They have just found a new system to exploit to further their hatred towards women.

[@ViscountVile]

@@tiredgardener That may be how it seems, but some advocates are deluded women who believe they are being 'progressive' and inclusive to trans people.

[@steamlink4803]

Rachel sounds like a 12 year old participating in a race against 8 year olds and being proud of winning. Not trying to belittle women. Just making a bad analogy.

[@Paul-Weston]

Well said.

[@shanamoens822]

Yeah she's so smug about it. I can't stand it. Makes me think she does it on purpose.

[@Paul-Weston]

Probably not even transgendered. Just realised she'll never get a medal competing against men, so tried this.

[@hritikpanwar4014]

There should be a transgender category too

[@Paul-Weston]

@@hritikpanwar4014 yes

[@nicolasleth6848]

"No one has a competitive advantage over each other" Then why split it into male and female if "sport is never level"? Why don't they just compete with other men if they don't see an advantage

[@luqaszz5206]

And why there is no debate about trans people who want to compete with males? 🤔😂 Oh wait.. Are there any of them?

[@TouchofShunshine]

Right!

[@TyroneBrownJrIV]

I know right!!if no one has a competitive advantage why can't I use my sports car in the cyclist tournaments???

[@samuelolwe2909]

Wasn't there a reason mens' and womens' sport was separated? Or should we just merge the two since "hey, everyone has a 'competitive advantage'"

[@TheNasty98]

Agreed

[@marimedina2985]

Right just make it co Ed then

[@hassanfarid4997]

@@marimedina2985 and women will never win again

[@morskadeklicaa]

Agreeed

[@anikakhan1539]

@burningfeet 53 and then the population rate will be down to negative and mother earth will be green again 🤪🤪

[@cedric-assehliemessing3053]

"Do trans athletes have an unfair advantage?" Next time on: "Is the Earth actually round?"

[@josephhage9377]

Cedric-Asseh Liemessing Next up Is water wet or does it make things wet The answer at 5

[@iceseic]

They already did the earth thing

[@royog3088]

Christians were right all along.

[@marciaosullivan3200]

Well funnily enough no the earth isn't that rigid and it's not quite a sphere so therefore because physical boundaries are vague the earth is a social construct

[@JanZamani]

welcome to 2020 where both are now contested...

[@polog9920]

Why is the right for one transgender not to be discriminated more important, than the right of hunderts of women to compete in a fair system?

[@Naskinlahtaaja]

The problem is that there just is no evidence that MtF athletes who have been a year on testosterone suppression retain a significant competitive advantage over cis women. That lack of evidence is exactly why the IOC hasn't changed the rules despite it having been talked about a lot in recent years.

[@panikosofgrays1904]

Winston Churchill sadly it's because the one transgender is man and women don't count. I say that as a man.

[@polog9920]

@@Naskinlahtaaja in biology a man is defined as a Person Who has cells in which there are both X and Y Chromosoms. So they are man and therefore diffrent

[@Naskinlahtaaja]

@Chris there is no evidence to suggest whether they have an advantage or not. How on Earth is it rational to make assumptions like that without evidence?

[@muscleprotein]

@@Naskinlahtaaja course they have an advantage! Stronger bone structure, greater muscle density. If it's just about testosterone levels then men over 40 can race in female events as their test levels are slowly declining. Have an open category where anything and anyone can compete then everyone is happy. If it wasn't for biological men and women we wouldn't be here. That's one fact that for now still holds.

[@sb-jt5zn]

I identify as a gold medalist so I won’t accept bronze 😂

[@calebpurvis2872]

I wish it wasnt that easy to sum up their entire thought process

[@FellowOfHammer]

So true lol

[@pebbles92able]

How original 😒 ...m0ron

[@nanamin7298]

@@pebbles92able 🤡

[@pebbles92able]

@@nanamin7298 yes you are a clown

[@EngineeringStudent06]

"Do trans athlete have an unfair advantage?" Is that even a question🤔

[@germancastano2241]

Do trans athlete have an unfair advantage? Do big women have an unfair advantage? Do big men have an unfair advantage? Do young people have an unfair advantage against "senior citizens"? Is that even a question? Is not. That why there regulations and categories. In the past women fight to have their own category because there were invisible behind men. To be fair in some point I history in boxing everyone belong to a unique category, but they created a bunch of categories because a big men have actually advantage against smaller men.

[@youarepretty5299]

@joey macdermott wrong. sports is about competitive people with the same qualities and quantities. You cant compare a fish to a rabbit because they are completely different. What's consider cheating imp is a trans women against biologically women, it's like saying look I take vitamins or a booster and I am going to crash them. Unbelievable. I'm not a hater nor transphobic, it's a criticism. You can take it and improve or remain the same.

[@sillysod33]

It is for the retards on the sad intellectual sewer that is the modern left.

[@blahvn]

bobby macdiarmid there is a thing called weight class, you idiot

[@arachnid3297]

It is strikingly astonishing how you guys have ignored the major unfair advantage such as socio-economic background for years, and now everyone became a biologist. There could be no better word to define this situation than hypocrisy.

[@noobnoob911]

This Rachel said in the beginning that they are legally and socially women. Yes, but Not Physically/biologically though.

[@Jusneko]

THIS!!

[@surpreetsingh737]

I thought the SAME THING😂😂😂😂

[@briank9354]

Testosterone is literally the steroid that makes u jacked. It gives an major advantages. Anyone who says other wise is delusional or just wants the advantage

[@anwarnm9052]

Nicely said

[@matthewrodgers9270]

Yea he’s clueless

[@Xxsorafan]

I’m trans but really it’s not fair. At the end of the day male and female biology is different. Someone transitioning at the age of 30 won’t make for a fair competition

[@imanepink]

👏👏👏 agreed

[@karlomagnoguadalupe4843]

Respect 👍

[@RainyRunningRiver]

Yep. And I'll always be the real version of what you pretend to be ❤

[@Kaharris.96]

The entire world is trans.

[@takarahayashi4124]

we need more people like you

[@chrislarge3429]

Scary how this is even an argument. The west is descending into madness…

[@egg4489]

All thanks to the Cultural Marxism and Feminism

[@vaporwaveisdead]

The west is sending sattelites the size of a bottle of Coke to orbit the Earth. We're still the best.

[@egg4489]

@@vaporwaveisdead he was talking about the Society not the Technology

[@vaporwaveisdead]

@@egg4489 This same freedom of thinking boosters both technology and excentric ideas. Trust me, if the idea doesn't make logic we're throwing it away. It happens that in Africa, Russia or Middle East, people haven't even achieved such advanced philosophy. They're buying our products, receiving humanitarian help and telling us how to act. It's like children telling mom and dad how to behave.

[@jehanshahmohamednoor-2654]

I totally agree with u

[@winstonalf]

If we really cared about women empowerment this would not happen.

[@wissaleaab9324]

FACTS!

[@granillx]

periodt.

[@bailey9546-r7o]

Vatsavai Venkata Satya mangapathi raju honestly this is part of the reason feminism is a joke to even women

[@bruhbruhin_a_sling7775]

Trans saying they’re women and going to compete against obviously weaker women gives the same energy as ufc fighters weighing down to fight weaker opponents

[@megansmallwood3409]

I don't think that Susan B Anthony who helped get women the right to vote just to see that one day that transgender males would compete against female biological females and they the biological female would lose while do transgender women would win cuz they have more testosterone at is the point of an a biological women unless you're just going to be labeled transphobic if you tried to say that transgender people should have their own League it's ridiculous. testosterone

[@paulschumacher4308]

There needs to be trans-only events or it will NEVER be fair.

[@whytee11]

That's always the point! and there would always be accusations that the world is not trying to be all-including of gender identifications, when sports is a first and foremost a physiological competition.

[@paulschumacher4308]

@@whytee11 "life isn't fair" was always told to me while growing up. And I'm more concerned with women's rights than trans rights.

[@whytee11]

@@paulschumacher4308 it's like, "just because it isn't fair, doesn't mean that we should give up on making it fair" for me. And I wouldn't say I am more concerned with this than that, but we should be cautious when we're making it fair for one

[@paulschumacher4308]

@@whytee11 I agree. I like things to be as fair as possible, but if fair is impossible then we should negatively affect the least amount of people.

[@stlalways6715]

All 20 of them worldwide can compete....

[@napmcdan3437]

Ask yourself this: How accomplished were these athletes before their transformation? Most, if not all, were average at best. Now, after the transformations, they are at the top of their sport. Case closed!

[@davidsawyer3737]

Nap Mcdan but honestly, who cares about women’s sports

[@napmcdan3437]

@@davidsawyer3737 Well, that is true. But I'd rather ignore them because they are uninteresting rather than them being an insult to _real women_ .

[@SharonVeeLee]

Not only that, but how many trans-men are dominating male sports? By the logic, after a year or so they should be on par with men.

[@danyyilbun6736]

And women who went into men sports actually were in trouble even after transition

[@loganrogan605]

Are not men and women equal?

[@theseeker8074]

“This is about are trans women actually women and it’s clear that legally and socially we are” Me: Well, but not biologically.🤷‍♂️

[@NPC-dv5kg]

yeah these morens forgot reality

[@juliancoenen4917]

“And it is clear that legally and socially, we are.” But biologically not

[@AngelEmfrbl]

Their in a dream world where they denounce gender exists, right down to biological reasons.

[@uraharamitchell7250]

@@AngelEmfrbl *THEY'RE definitely in a dream world. *THERE will be consequences for all of this someday. *THEIR defiance of the natural order will come back and haunt them. *THERE'RE more videos talking on this topic.

[@snapperjessen]

@@uraharamitchell7250 smooth correction :)

[@uraharamitchell7250]

@@snapperjessen As smooth as a wildebeest stampede driving through somebody's living room.

[@DoINeedAHandle]

I literally screamed those exact words bruh cheers

[@turokk3352]

This shouldn't even be titled a question... the world has gone mad

[@megansmallwood3409]

I 100% agree

[@JrryThrdJnsFurth]

NOOO AMERICA HAS GONE MAD

[@turokk3352]

@@JrryThrdJnsFurth I'm so sorry my friend.

[@JrryThrdJnsFurth]

@@turokk3352, IT HURTS EVERYTIME 😢

[@spartanK42]

I've always assumed that despite the world being more accepting of LGBT stuff, Transgenders in women's sports was a boundary they wouldn't cross for obvious reasons. Apparently I've been living under a rock because here we are.

[@iamyourbiggestfan6420]

"Do Trans athletes have an unfair advantage?" Answer: Yes!

[@MrCmon113]

Not if it's female to male.

[@derekmartin2054]

Does a 6 foot tall woman have an advantage on a 5 foot tall woman? yes, it's just how it is

[@MrCmon113]

@@derekmartin2054 And stronger muscles and thicker bones and more endurance and quicker reflexes and so on... I don't care how people organize those sporting events, because I don't watch them anyways, but it seems to me that a lot of people, who do watch women's sports, want to watch athletes, who grew up as women.

[@ReasonAboveEverything]

Only to transwomen

[@matrixmirage2148]

Technically, it's a dude with pink hair, glasses, and nail polish At first, I thought it was Skrillex from 2009-2010 lol

[@hiidupiidu3292]

western society has become so woke that they don't even realize they're becoming misogynistic.

[@teadrops9449]

its unfair that trans women can participate with other women. Its not even about being discriminatory but they are just physically different.

[@tdk99-i8n]

Why does the women's category even exist then?

[@laurenkelley1171]

Tyler Knight Because men are biologically built stronger than women. Having them separate isn’t in any way to be sexist, it’s to be fair.

[@tdk99-i8n]

@@laurenkelley1171 the cyclist in the video says that Dutch women are taller and that is an advantage. Why isn't there a Dutch women category in competition? Nonsense, we say, it's not important enough to make that a category. And therefore, we are assigning a value judgement. Extending this logic, if we don't make a category exception for physically stronger dutch women, then it's inconsistent to make exceptions for women in general on the basis of physical differences. Perhaps you could say its consistent because only weaker groups get their own categories (e.g. no controversy with transmen competing with men), but even here it's not ALL weaker groups. Save for boxing, weaker men don't get their own categories. Trans women then say their exclusion is based on gender, not physical differences.

[@ёлки-я7п]

But the difference is Dutch woman is born taller, it would be different if a man who passed thought male puberty (who is probably taller than average female) transitioned recently to female.

[@laurenkelley1171]

Tyler Knight If I’m understanding you correctly, you say that a Dutch-woman-only category would be necessary to give weaker woman an equal opportunity. The only problem is that height is not always necessarily an advantage. Just because a Dutch woman is taller it doesn’t mean they are faster or stronger than another woman. But when it comes to any competitive sport in the olympics, things like bone density, amount of muscle and lung size certainly do matter. Men are biologically stronger not just because of their height, but greatly because of these factors. Which is why there is a separate category for both men and women.

[@brookeo_o3866]

People defending this are literally ignorant and they don’t even see it. Someone said that women should “just train harder then.”

[@elingrome5853]

theyre absolutely not ignorant... they are using this a cynical power grab

[@anastliliop5819]

Trans women on HRT (hormone replacement therapy) have the same levels of testosterone as cis woman. These athletes take estrogen and progesterone which significantly drop muscle mass and make it harder to gain muscle. Basically they are on the same level as cis women. Of course that only applies to trans people on HRT. There should be regulation and testing for testosterone levels but all in all its unfair to exclude athletes from sport when science tells us that they don't have a biological advantage

[@tungstenanderson5991]

@@anastliliop5819 Men have stronger bones by design than women, biologically. Taking estrogen, makes those bones even stronger. A mans heart, lungs, and limbs don't get shorter or smaller. Already developed muscles, don't atrophy automatically. Considering the fact that men like Mary Gregory was "record breaking" for "women" is just one example. Science dictates, that trans identified males, actually do have an advantage. And, it's not rocket science.

[@triggered577]

@@anastliliop5819 It is not settled science that they “don’t have a competitive advantage” and these lies that you all insist on telling is exactly why there is so much backlash against these trans “activists” and gender “theorists”. There have been plenty of studies and professionals speaking on this and the idea that a biological male is of the same physical capacity as a woman bc he doped himself up with hormones is not scientifically confirmed. You all are literally running around spreading these lies for the sake of accommodation.

[@anastliliop5819]

@@triggered577 didn't I provide studies for both points trying to be objective? Unlike you I prefer seeing both sides of the coin before settling down to an opinion. And yes I'm not fully convinced that trans women should be allowed in female sports but I try to keep my mind open. Also a little side note it would be better of you didn't misgender these people. The fact that they, in your opinion, have an advantage in sports doesn't give you the right to not respect them

[@master-_-beavis5261]

Imagine lebron james identifying as a woman, then all the sudden he plays in the WNBA

[@JohnDoe-do3fm]

It would bring viewers.

[@frespects9624]

@@JohnDoe-do3fm I'm pretty sure LeBron James makes more money than the wnba does.

[@ashleyk8406]

I wonder what he’d look like as a girl

[@master-_-beavis5261]

@@ashleyk8406 in 2021 U may not have to wonder much longer luv😂😂😂😂

[@sev7nnn]

He would start scoring 800 point games

[@abhiluitsharma1355]

Social science is all about narrative and perspectives.. but SCIENCE is the reality which no one can deny..

[@TtheManInTheArena]

Corona also thought it was unfair so she had the event canceled.

[@Nafets-C]

Even covid 19 protested this kind of hypocrisy. Its all coming together

[@ashashash666]

🤣🤣😂🤣🤣

[@richie7927]

Imagine mike tyson in his prime, becoming transgender and entering women’s boxing.

[@buggs6608]

Chris breezy Or should I say Mike breezy

[@mar10ssj1]

I would say it is Stunning and Brave. They asked for this, they really did. And now its here.

[@garyvahl7658]

He would still win.

[@abhishekyadav-hy3gq]

Issue is not with Mike Tyson , imagine me entrying women boxing 🥊 and winning 😂😂

[@tervenjames8305]

In his prime he can do it now. I bet if Mike fights the wnba champion he would win.

[@googlemailbox615]

This is an absolute joke

[@Sam-vs6rg]

ahahah says you

[@Sam-vs6rg]

@ I said "says you" not "says who", I was implying that @Google Mailbox is a joke. Learn to read you dingus 😐

[@mortsobtw2594]

I think womans can't play video games

[@Sam-vs6rg]

@@mortsobtw2594 k.

[@mortsobtw2594]

@Vic Birth yes

[@_loss_]

This is cheating on a whole different level.

[@Ardkun00]

Cheating backed by the LGBTQ+ 🏳️‍🌈 Community

[@RainyRunningRiver]

I'm an MMA fighter for 10+ years. I've beat many women all over Ireland. My brother has less than 3 years experience but crushed me and hes only 17- Men and woman are diffrent. Even with training and years and years of working out I as a woman will never be as strong as a man. Males and females are different! I wouldn't want to fight a guy again

[@luleetomas2108]

Black White Finally someone with a brain...speak the truth always

[@OkayMay749]

Even Serena Williams admitted that she would get beat by an average male tennis player because physically men are biologically stronger then women. It’s not transphobic it’s just fact. I’m all for trans rights but when someone who’s never won a medal let alone broken a record and then suddenly transitions and wins/breaks records in female sports, we have to start looking into this unfair bs

[@spiderjump]

Black White I am 5 foot 10 Asian guy .. and at my leanest about 77 kg.. I could do 18 pull ups with very strict form.. this female at in my college told me she felt confident she could beat guys in sports .. I told her why do not you try your strength against me since I am not much bigger than you. Let just say she was surprised how this slim looking guy was so much stronger than her.

[@Adam-vx6to]

It's not fair to anyone. The end. This shouldn't even be a question.

[@ipotrick6686]

why compete as a women ever? you can never win

[@HandledToaster2]

@@ipotrick6686 nice bait. Below this comment you will find an immense useless discussion on women's rights or something. Enjoy :)

[@sarmadghafoor1484]

It’s significant change that’s why, for example why can’t everyone use steroids it’s unfair anyway should be allowed. which is why altering your natural state in sports for woman will be unbeatable. I think there should be conversation since it’s flat out an advantage not including like weight groups and what not for strength training especially.

[@Sequence322]

It's totally unfair to woman!

[@Afroninja2025]

well played gg

[@wonkygustav4457]

Why not separate them into trans athletes, they can’t deny they’re trans

[@Borderose]

They said that would be denying their identity.

[@Alex.551]

Not enough people I think

[@wonkygustav4457]

James Foley then they’re all winners

[@Alex.551]

@@wonkygustav4457 true hahahahh.I think they should be in the category where they were born,male or female,otherwise is not fair.

@@Borderose bs

[@mlytenin1]

I've watched a couple of interviews with the Rachel chick, I've met so many people like her on the debate team, there's absolutely no way she doesn't realize that she's trolling just to get what she wants.

[@ghuanteng]

0:44 "Why exclude us on sport?" Because you are a man participate in woman category

[@dannysbudgies3108]

Exacly

[@DMxalava]

Exclamation mark!

[@oldbonniegamer938]

@Noobbish It'd be ironic if the same people now want them out

[@dwaingambino1979]

But its ok being called trans an not a woman. Kinda dumb

[@buggs6608]

@abernsdorff make trans sports You shouldn't play with men as you are lowering your ability to play efficiently and you shouldn't play with women because you are naturally more efficient than them

[@mosl2te]

Why is this even a debatable topic? I refuse to engage in this goofiness. Biological women who support this cyclist competing against women are failing their daughters and sons.

[@youllneverknow_123]

I don't like this America, secession number 2

[@sankalp2520]

This is a debatable topic because not everyone thinks like you. You have to look into both the perspectives: as a "trans woman" and a "cis woman athlete treated unfairly". A wise person would always approach problems in an unbiased way. You say u refuse to engage in the so-called goofiness, yet you comment something provoking. lol

[@mar10ssj1]

men beating women in women's sport. Stunning and Brave.

[@bujharvard9313]

@@sankalp2520 It's not debatable because their entire argument is based on a falsehood, one that much of the world humours just to keep them from being sad. But logically, there is only one correct side.

[@bujharvard9313]

@ Hormones aren't everything.

[@TheLastCrow5150]

He literally said, "Legally and socially, we are". Notice they forgot to mention biology...

[@JupitoraDas-ib8ee]

Exactly and that's what makes us real women . Biologi but they pretend like its nothing😒

[@justaguy.6341]

Rafee, your problem begins with you thinking the "SPORT" is the issue lol.

They pretend biology is fictional

[@ekkso5630]

She, not he.

@@ekkso5630 he*

[@chingthianhoihvualnam4779]

Ha! "Tall Dutch and short Indonesian women! " There are weight categories. That case isn't the same with a biological male competing against a biological female. I feel at this point biological women don't have a voice.

[@IngaFrid]

The _"Sport Is a Human Right"_ slogan's just too much. Nobody's denying transgender people to do sports. Rachel McKinnon could cycle 24/7 for the rest of her life and nobody would care. It's the competitive and financial elements in it that make it unfair.

[@Yasser-2]

Linda Stevensen can please say "his"

[@feminaasty]

Bcs they need atention in everything.

[@sidequestenjoyer7037]

His*

[@lukeweyant6771]

Strongest man in the world: male Strongest female in the world: also male

[@skyebowleyn6364]

lol

[@lukeweyant6771]

@Buttbanging Trannyliberal Glamour Magazine woman of the year 2015: Caitlyn Jenner

[@spencersee391]

Male power!

[@Shin-ln5fq]

Lol

[@johndoe_yoe6257]

2026 Olympic... all male competition, some with long hair on the women events.

[@YorktownUSA]

The real question is: is it fair for the competition?? Answer: No.

[@alanalymon3164]

this country has very little respect for women’s sports to allow this foolishness to take place!

[@gemusefachlummel6467]

how her criticism is immediately shunned as hate speech...

[@ThimpleGameth]

Same thing happened to JK Rowling, this is getting out of hand, where stating facts it’s taken immediately as hate speech.

[@Eric-sy1xu]

Chromosomes aren't a metric to measure a system of sportsmanship. Chromosomes can't tell pretty much anything beyond giving a vague indicator of what genitalia they *_might_* be born with.

[@E9X330]

@@Eric-sy1xu Wrong, chromosomes ALWAYS determine your abilities

[@tysfalsehood]

@@E9X330 Not ALWAYS, but partially, yes. There are men that are less able than some women.

[@E9X330]

@@tysfalsehood I never said that couldn't be the case, was not talking about sports exclusively

[@abeeshaw]

When you're weak enough to compete with men , so you decide to bully women instead !!

[@thatsok2784]

Frfr this women in mma got her skull cracked open by a transgender women and she wasn't even told she was transgender before the fight it's honeslty so messed up how do feminist support women getting there skulls bashed in by BIOLOGICAL men ?

[@LPF7]

*too weak

[@ismailridwan6489]

And feministard still don't see this as an inequality for woman.

[@michelleli6259]

“This is about, are trans women actually women? And it’s clear that socially and legally we are so why exclude us from sport?” Well because you’ve just acknowledged that biologically you’re not?!

[@unspecifiedunit9126]

Yeah, they’re blinded by their ignorance and falsehood, it’s literally a man competing against women, this is absolutely ridiculous that this is even a debatable topic.

[@axolotl3883]

@@unspecifiedunit9126 the world right now is supposed to be research and technological advancement and then this.... I don't have any words how to describe it because you will be called transphobic or homophobic when you're just stating facts.

[@jayjee735]

The IOC rules state you don't even have to be legally recognised as "female" to be eligible to the female categories...smh. Rules made for political reasons

[@horatiohornblower741]

It's not making aboubt no your not trans it's safety and fairness see how you feel when Tysom fury decides he's trans see how you loto feel

[@mariusman3671]

Based

[@shanet771]

If it really is so fair, someone tell me how many trans men have won titles compared to trans women?? 👀

[@RitikRaj-qf6yp]

That’s like saying if cricket is really fair how many world cups has Austrailia won compared to UAE . I do agree with trans not being fair but this is probably not the right way to explain it

[@tj7935]

It is one way to explain it. How come if you go one way (man->woman) you are more likely to smash women's records, but if you go the other way (woman->man) no male record has been beaten

[@flamersshowsandmore3864]

Although there aren't any examples of trans men, there are stand-out ftm athletes such as Chris Mosier who got 2nd in a 2017 National Champion triathletes.

[@RitikRaj-qf6yp]

@@tj7935 I never said it is not a way to explain you get the point but not the right way to point it out

[@khonsuwerk9757]

Let The Games Begin,... “The Transgendered Games”. Let them complete amongst themselves. Problem solved.

[@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873]

This, or stay at their respective biological league

[@rauljuarez296]

Lol the TransOlympics Where the "Women" outperform the "men" events lol

[@Akmong1988]

Exactly

[@mikeydudek2885]

Yeah except that creates another problem. Revenue. People barely pay attention to the WNBA, so no ones gonna watch whatever league that would be. I’m not supporting Trans athletes cause It’s obviously and insultingly unfair, but I’m just saying that I don’t think that solution would solve anything. Although I could be totally wrong and it could be a sensation, ironic or otherwise.

[@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873]

@@mikeydudek2885 totally agree, ofc its just a theoritical solution, the reason why it will not run well is probably like you said

[@Nicko42PA]

"Sport is never level" Ok let's just merge the mens and women's divisions. Problem solved.

[@danyyilbun6736]

Wait wait wait wait wait, if they do that, then trans athletes will stop winning, we can't have that, why did they transition then

[@kramsilverbridge1242]

@@danyyilbun6736 put them in a cage against khabib, teach women who transition to never cross that bridge again

[@happycamper4429]

@@kramsilverbridge1242 maybe that would work!! Didnt they say Ronda Rousey was the best 135 lb fighter in the world and beat professional men in training? She wouldn't cause she knows she wouldn't have a chance.

[@Theo-bk6qj]

Then men more likely to win since men has more advantages

[@danyyilbun6736]

@@Theo-bk6qj bro, this post makes exactly this point 😆👍

[@ken-ic1ne]

If sport is never level then why doesn't Rachel McKinnon compete against men?

[@perapeki]

Exactly my point if the only reason is to compete and not to take unfair advantage not to mention money recerds etc go compete with men . If this is right why they took 7 titles from Armstrong he could declare himself as a vampire maybe and that is why he needed the new blood . 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hardeepbabhauri7379]

People like him or whatever her are shame to lgbt community

[@mijko79]

@ken, 'cause "Rachel" doesn't stand a chance in male competition.

[@retronerds6884]

Cause he was trash

[@lloydgrapilon6203]

Romans 1:18 For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way,

[@junkandgunk]

"LEGALLY female" probably the most meaningless defense i've heard in a long time

[@smilesxo06]

yup since it's just an M or F on a piece of paper, i look at Rachel and I see a man doesn't matter if he puts on some makeup and dyes his hair. Edit: *I AM NOT TRANSPHOBIC* , as long as what your doing isn't hurting or effecting anyone negatively, I don't care, but in this situation it is. Why is it whenever someone talks about trans people they're instantly labeled transphobic?

[@khanhax3873]

@@smilesxo06 in based hungary thats banned now lol

[@connieshoes9564]

Yeah feminism also

[@chrism3790]

We all know how everything that is legal also conforms to common sense. The constitution shapes reality, don't you know?

[@junkandgunk]

@@chrism3790 nice sarcasm

[@chinesepropotato2371]

Next up: motrocyclist who identifies as bicyclist wins olympic games.

[@iceyreelz3228]

YEET GAMING very underrated comment I’m dying

[@Justwanthavefun_100]

Hey ! Don’t insult motorcyclist 🤣

[@johnsmith6974]

Wait....is it a harley or a Honda?

[@wreagfe]

@@nebulabunny8633 transphobe is a made up term specifically invented to weaponize fake victimhood. Using it just exposes yourself as a virtue signaller thriving on mentioned victimhood.

[@johnsmith6974]

@@nebulabunny8633 Are you Honda or Harley?

[@twistedtrailerparktales2126]

Trans Woman: it's so unnecessary to keep woman and mens sports separate we're all the same. Okay so compete as the gender you were born as. Trans Woman: No I have to compete against biological woman or not at all.

[@YorktownUSA]

Exactly.

[@txnafish]

to be fair due to how estrogen affects the male body it would be grossly unfair to set trans women against men but at the same time it's not any less unfair to pit trans women against women it's easiest to segregate them into their own category. ppl who don't think this is fair don't understand how UNFAIR it is for trans women to compete against women.

[@lepzjr8405]

watch the amount of "transgender women" that jump into a boxing ring for the Olympics

[@georgieee4906]

So it’s just a coincidence that when a male athlete becomes a “woman” they suddenly are the best woman’s athlete ever 🙃

[@mikeydudek2885]

Especially when no one even knew their name before “Transitioning”

[@xantherinekyle221]

name one trans woman athlete who's the better than cis women atheletes.

[@xantherinekyle221]

if u are putting this comment, u must have some knowledge/fact for the support. Don't say this just came out of ur mind and u don't know any real life example of a trans woman athlete.

[@sabinagrisi9726]

@@xantherinekyle221 Trans women in sports Tifanny Abreu, volleyball Chloe Anderson,[57] volleyball Alessia Almeri,[58] volleyball Mianne Bagger, golf Savannah Burton Parinya Charoenphol, Thai boxing JayCee Cooper,[59] Powerlifting, Roller Derby Roberta Cowell, motor sports Yanelle Del Mar Zape,[60] Track and Field Athena Del Rosario, football(soccer) and beach handball [61] Michelle Duff Michelle Dumaresq Fallon Fox, mixed martial arts Natalie van Gogh, cycling Laurel Hubbard, weightlifting Veronica Ivy,[62][63] cycling Lauren Jeska, fell running Janae Kroc Caroline Layt,[60][64][65] Rugby League, Rugby Union and Track and Field Bobbi Lancaster, golf Samantha 'Sammy' Walker, Football (Soccer)[66] Kellie Maloney Kirsti Miller,[67] Modern Pentathlon, Aquathon and AFL Terri Miller, track and field (high school) [68] Cate McGregor, cricket Hannah Mouncey, handball and Australian football Laura Nagtegaal,[69][70] disc golf Renée Richards, tennis Jaiyah Saelua Britney Stinson,[71] American football, baseball CeCe Telfer, track and field [72] Andraya Yearwood, track and field (high school) Charlie Christina Martin, motor sports Mara Gómez, football (soccer) [73]

[@xantherinekyle221]

@@sabinagrisi9726 I did not ask u to copy and paste from wikipedia page. I asked the original commenter if they knew anyone before commenting. Moreover, I asked name any trans woman who is better than cis women, who always win the first or second place in a competition.

[@TheLehumo]

I feel sorry that female athletes have to deal with this awkward situation with trans people, especially because the backlash on this proportionally small group is so crazy

[@exnihilo415]

@Bezz80 Thanks for confirming the backlash is real.

[@panikosofgrays1904]

Maximilian Heil it's a bit more than awkward since all women's sports will have to end. Well they will carry on but with men only.

[@chrissyr5941]

You just made me cry.

[@os6552]

@Alex True

[@noname-zp1yh]

@Alex oh wow I sure do feel bad! Oh no the spocky transes are gonna come and get me!!!1!,!1!

[@stpeta17]

Did y’all see the UK guy who never lifted weights in his life and one day said he was a woman and won the champion! BS

[@boivevo6301]

He did lift tho ? Just not professional .

[@NyanLama459]

Zuby does lift tho. An average man who doesn't workout has zero chance of beating the womens record without training. Don't discredit women that much...

[@stpeta17]

@@NyanLama459 I was not aware he had previously lifted weights however it does nothing to discredit what I said, for it is very unfair for biological males to compete against biological females. Zuby is still an effective example of how easy it is to also just for no reason to say your female, and thus win a women’s trophy. He was not even a trans person. But always men competing against women is wrong. It’s ridiculous because the very reason we made separate classes for men and women is to make it fair. I think trans people should be in there own class, separate from biological men and women. That would be fair. This women claims she doesn’t want to disrupt the Olympics but that is precisely what she’s doing and then she should have no problem competing in her own class against other trans only. It needs to be fair.

[@alexanderfox-robinson4910]

@@stpeta17 it would be a freak show

[@unluckygamer692]

@@stpeta17 I'm an above average lifter for a male, if I were a female I'd be a world champion.

[@steambunn6159]

Men are born stronger and their body development is irreversible.Just 12 months injection and medicine does not change their biological reality. If they insist their participation is 'human right 'for them, what about 'human right' and equality for other sport women? Inclusivity is not an excuse to disturb the sport.

[@MrJakes555]

Davies is a legend for protecting women's sport. Yes, everyone should have the right to compete in sport, but it must be done on a level playing field. - Men against Men - Women against Women - Trans Women against Trans Women - Trans Men against Trans Men - Open Games (Where all compete with no limit to the amount of hormones or drugs to enhance performance, if they decide to take performance enhancing drugs or not) If boundaries are clearly defined it will stop people taking advantage of their biological gifts to supress other genders.

[@aubreynaarcher8916]

This was beautifully said. 100% agree.

[@davidvergel1533]

The open games with no limits on drugs and hormone use sounds lit 🔥. Imagine a crackhead’s time on the one mile. And the wrestling and boxing matches from people on roids. In all seriousness though this really does solve the problem just give them their own division and then have an open division to see who’s really the best of the best.

[@horminmangfi5653]

Well, some people argue that black people have a genetic advantage, so they have to be separated Do you agree?

[@aubreynaarcher8916]

@@horminmangfi5653 By that premise, wouldnt you be implying that white people have an intellectual advantage?

[@horminmangfi5653]

@@aubreynaarcher8916 , that's the kind of point that I am making People are up on stereotypes and divisions So I want to see the OP's response How does he behave when it's about race

[@psc698]

"Sport is a human right." That might be the single dumbest quote I've heard.

[@bdmc6583]

No I've heard one that is worse. The guy who insists he is a girl and wants to be allowed to smash females in weightlifting was asked why he should be able to compete against women and he literally replied "Why not?" Yea.

[@Skaelya]

well actually it is, doing sport doesn't interfere with others right, and when a right doesn't interfere with other right then it's a human right. but it's totaly irrelevent here thoo...

[@jasondashney]

I'm 5'5. I'm too short for the NBA. I want to wear stilts because I have talent but was born this way (short).

[@bdmc6583]

@@jasondashney no! NO!! You walk right in there and you TELL them that you are 6'4" because you SAID SO and that they are NOT going to "invalidate you" or "erase you existence" by saying that you aren't!

[@StoneHavel]

@@jasondashney just identify as 7'0" lol

[@gdaebb9179]

He is talking about freaking height and not addressing the fact that he is a MALE with an XY chromosome.....Your height alone doesn't give you an advantage, your whole DNA makeup gives you advantage. This is basic biology. Men and Women are just not the SAME.

[@no_0riginality937]

Apparently some Trans people don’t know simple biology at all

[@subbot4417]

She*

[@wildtatz]

@@subbot4417 he .

[@subbot4417]

toëntje SHE was born a biologically male but is in the process of transitioning into a trans women.

[@wildtatz]

@@subbot4417 no its He ..and doesn't matter how much they cut him up ...it always be a He

[@Tglass]

If it is an equal race after 12 months of suppressing testosterone in trans women, why don't we see trans men who have boosted testosterone competing against biological men? I've not heard of a single controversial story about that crossover.

[@TylerSpite]

Those guys know what they’re doing, they know it’s not fair. They just don’t care.

[@Sofia-te4dp]

Exactly. They know what they’re doing but they just ignore it for their 5 minutes of fame.

[@mar10ssj1]

Don't really get any sponsors or name recognition being the 999th best male athlete.

[@ACIMRobert]

It isnt like being trans is a choice

[@ACIMRobert]

Like athletes dont have advantages

[@TylerSpite]

@@ACIMRobert I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.

[@PUNKF001]

“Are trans women actually women? Legally and social we are” But physically? You know, the bit that gives you a huge advantage over women? I dont think anyone wants to exclude trans athletes, we just dont like seeing an unfair competition.

[@charvikripalani2270]

Scientific fact is that 1) A trans woman on HRT is significantly weaker than a cis man, forcing them to compete with cis men would put them at a disadvantage because hormones make them a lot weaker than the average male. Its not fair for trans women on hormones for over a year to be forced to compete with men. 2) if you compare and study a woman who happens to be trans after she has has been on HRT for a year and a woman who happens be cis there's sometimes negligible to no difference between the competitive stats. Why would the Olympics approve trans women under these hormone conditions if it wasn't scientific for over a decade even?

[@PUNKF001]

@@charvikripalani2270 talk about ignorant. It’s like you people have never done any sort of sports with the opposite gender 😂 Your first point is correct but you miss out the part where its not fair to women for trans women to compete with women. However It’s a scientific fact that 1) men have much bigger hearts, lungs, bone density, muscle mass NONE of which are going to change with a bit of oestrogen pumped into their body. 2) There are no trans males suddenly smashing world record yet trans males are suddenly obliterating women’s records and their sport. Why is this? Its almost like their is a biological difference between male and female 🤪 Having trans women compete with women will be the death of womens sports and all of their world records will be beaten. However, to me, having a trans only record/competition seems like exclusion. I don’t know what the right answer is, but for gods sake stop ignoring facts for the sake of being woke.

[@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459]

@@PUNKF001 Laurel Hubbard isn’t breaking many records. They can’t even win a world medal lol. Then again, everyone in weightlifting is pumped full of testosterone.

[@brittongodman7769]

IF, biologically you are not a woman, then you are NOT A WOMAN,,,,,,, it's simple.

[@PUNKF001]

@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 one example of an old mediocre weight lifter. She should be trouncing her opposition. Maybe she tanked on purpose so people like you can say “see there is no difference” and she can keep her job. I swear most people act like once they transition, suddenly they are on the same level as women, imagine if Eddie Hall did some HRT for a year, do you really think he wouldn’t annihilate all the females he could compete with 😂

[@lenardtorres1965]

Is this even a question? Imagine Shaq changing his gender and joining woman's basketball

[@christiana5453]

Lenard Torres he’d dominate without question

[@frozenkilt]

@@christiana5453 Yeah, but still noone would be watching ;)

[@sktrudel]

But funny enough, it's not top male athletes who do this, they'd still be mediocre as males.

[@sktrudel]

I think, that in this we reap what was sowed by ultra liberal Americans who insist that all difference is natural and has to be accepted by the majority. It is now almost impossible to debate on gender, as you will be called a bigot for doing so. Right or wrong, this is the consequence of saying that a person should be celebrated for being different, once you take it to the extreme. Who are you then to deny this trans woman the right to compete at the highest level? Of course once you start wading out of very liberal countries, letting trans women compete with women becomes laughable. In conservative countries the idea is shocking. I don't think world politics is ready to accomodate recent American legal creations.

[@lenardtorres1965]

@@sktrudel what about the infamous Brucie?. Yes America has become too Liberal, They should create a new category and label it transgenders, idk what you think of that idea, but it seems fair to me

[@freddypizza3832]

No, trans athletes dont have an unfair advantage. Paraplegics can also beat Usain Bolt in a 40 m dash. Giraffes can successfully swim across entire oceans. 1 + 1 equals 56.

[@fennecfox9490]

I feel so stressed and sad for all the female athletes out there right now who are going to miss out on their proper recognition because the trans participants will win. This is so unfair.

[@NyanyiC]

This issue makes me so mad. Ladies are missing out on university scholarships because cause of this mess

[@megansmallwood3409]

Yes yes thank you! 100% agree!

[@TimCarter]

I wonder how many hard working female students lost out on the scholarships they earned because males beat them at the state finals.

[@shieldbrother7425]

@@NyanyiC people are missing out, not just women

[@taztoon3387]

Every athlete should refuse to compete against these people then something might be done.

[@BroGoPro235]

the olymics will soon be 50% men and 50% men acting like women

[@tonyhoiland7481]

Can't I use your quote? lol Love it!

[@Mango-nf2wn]

Ah yes, the transphobic comment I was looking for

[@BroGoPro235]

@@Mango-nf2wn im glad you found it

[@abgeth]

@@Mango-nf2wn ah yes the clueless idiot I was looking for...

[@Allgreen69]

PTB ay more men dominating

[@jeffreyjuico2542]

Transgender athletes must have a separate competition of their own to be fair. Biological women must compete with their sport. There is no hate there, we are just arguing for the sake of fairness and establishment of integrity of the sport and competition.

[@jamiemidge4983]

I thought freak shows were banned in the 80s. But seriously who would actually watch that?

[@AndTecks]

@@jamiemidge4983 30 trans people would.

[@lyna7038]

Yes for example

[@triciacowen5529]

Separate but equal? That didn’t turn out so well…

[@BigWhite002]

Sad to see how small the trans population is and how much power they have in the world.

[@brittongodman7769]

No such thing as a ''trans'' woman........ There are only men pretending to be women, for one reason or another. So, the whole question of whether ''trans'' women have a natural advantage or not is asinine............. Where are all of the ''trans'' men ( who are really women ) just waiting to compete in men's sports in the Olympics ? Why aren't there any ?

[@williamhealy6381]

Imagine being a women, training ur whole life Being the best u can be Only to come second to a trans women

[@dannybenhur6123]

@@useraccount1087 trans woman and trans man are confusing to me...lol EX-Man and EX-Woman would be appropriate...lol

[@williamhealy6381]

@@dannybenhur6123 I believe the name X-Men is taken

[@roberttakacs2312]

@@williamhealy6381 best ive seen all day you got me laughin😂😂

[@daisigner]

@@dannybenhur6123 No they aren't appropriate and what's appropriate to you doesn't matter! Transwomen shouldn't compete with cis women but neither should you think your ignorance is valid or appropriate!

[@lucaslzt]

@@dannybenhur6123 Tip: trans people refer to themselves with their current gender, ie a trans woman considers herself a woman (and wasn't before)

[@BarriosGroupie]

The rule is simple: if your testosterone levels weren't maintained at the female average during puberty, then you shouldn't be allowed to compete as an adult woman.

[@eliisorpeliisorp1333]

Even if they had maintained a female average of testosterone during puberty they still will end up stronger than women

[@peterpaullee9952]

Trans athletes may play in woman category if their transition starts before puberty

[@jiminsthighsrapmonsdimples6240]

Peter Paul Lee which is imo not right as well. Having kids changing genders isn't it.

[@vilmospalik1480]

Barrios Groupie yes but giving your child hormomes when they’re under developed is also a very controversial idea

[@ihatetheinternetitsawesome]

As a supporter of the LGBTQ I say that they shouldn't be allowed to participate. A lot of these male to female athletes transition simply because they know that it would give them an unfair advantage against biological women and they end up becoming winners in the Olympic games. This is really messed up.

[@maurakids4liberty147]

1:50 - "Sport is a Human Right" No, life, liberty, and property are human rights.

[@kyliemiller173]

the problem with that argument is that they can claim that cis women aren’t entitled to sports either, if they can’t be. i’m not disagreeing with you, im just saying that it could be used against you.

[@irfankhalil9225]

@@kyliemiller173 Cis women??? You mean Women!!

[@luvghd]

As an ex competitive athlete this makes me so angry, regardless during puberty they have had the opportunity to grow bigger muscles. I do not hate Trans but as an ex athlete hate female sports but being fair.

[@thehoneyguy5321]

What the reporter should have into'd her as: Rachel was a mediocre nobody when competing against other men, but now she is beating women to gain fame wealth and endorsements. Empowerment.

[@youjustgotburned3980]

Why can't trans compete with other trans? Oh wait..cz they'll lose. So let them compete with women instead Man,this is why Aliens never visit us. Earth is a chaotic planet

[@daniellemeyer8568]

She only started sport cycling at age 30+ when she moved to Charleston but it didn't have a strong badminton scene. Less than 6 years later she wins a world Women's record. But yeah she had "no competitive advantage"... right. Most professional athletes have been competing and training since they were very young. Lance Armstrong won his first "Kid's Triathlon" at age 13.

[@Taroslushstudio]

Period pooh

[@topbadgun]

I agree with you that's a loser in his former category, not switch team for his own advantage. This is a disgrace for feminist. This trans has no shame for take all hard work/prepare/training of other woman. Totally outrage.

[@MrEric2cu]

So true! Name one female who identifies as a man that won anything?

[@ali773n]

Coronavirus came in and said, “EVERYBODY LOSES!!!”

[@soulcream2388]

lol

[@JohnsonOyeniran]

Ha!

[@stefan6347]

*"NO LIVES MATTER!!!"* - Mr. Corona Virus

[@despondentzoomer]

Stephan Stefanus 😂😂😂

[@dannybenhur6123]

CoronaVirus: No competition no arguments..perfectly Balanced as all things should be...

[@kurumauzamaki2731]

“Sport is a human right” well I wanna play professional baseball I’m gonna sue MLB for discriminating against me by not letting me play

[@syedmohammadaanasfarukh890]

MLB IS EVIL. it's SyStEmatIcAlly DISCRIMINATING against average baseball players!!!!

[@flamersshowsandmore3864]

They said sports you literal brainlet, not pro sports. Unless you practice to get better, just play normal baseball with friends lol

[@kurumauzamaki2731]

@@flamersshowsandmore3864 what if I’m too poor does that mean the government legally has to buy all my equipment because that’s what rights are a right means the government provides those things and can’t take them away

[@hifijohn]

I agree I'm a 62 yo out of shape coach potato, how dare they not let me enter in the olympics.

[@david2804me]

It is hard to accept that society has come to a point where common sense and pragmatism no longer prevail. Anyone with a brain understands perfectly well why men's and women's competitive sports are separate and I doubt that anyone thinks that needs any debating. So how can anyone with a brain be in favour of making any exceptions to this gender separation in sport? It doesn't matter what you wear or how you feel or how you want to be seen by others..... those things do not change the physical gender you are. You must, therefore, stay on your side of the gender dividing line in competitive sport or simply just not compete. If you, as a trans woman, do not respect that then, not only do you have no sense of decency or fairness, you evidently have no respect for women either. Consequently, you do not deserve my respect, nor anyone else's, and all sporting bodies should ban you from all women's competitive sport.

[@ElectrologyNow]

Question: But, but, but ... aren't you making the transgender person feel bad? Answer: I don't care!

[@inspyruse257]

I agree the women are feeling bad when they lose to a man with pink hair and much more muscle mass and more testo ... That thinks that he is a women i mean no one cares be whatever you want but dont ruin others fun and life just so you can be happy

[@AngelEmfrbl]

@@inspyruse257 T him his the same as a woman, but scientifically unless you have a repressed "Y" chromosome, your a male. And that applies to only a handful of males who have that genetic disorder with their "Y" chromosome to begin with.

[@timmyturner5864]

Insert spider man I have no fcks meme

[@kawaiifishyfish7831]

You always see mtf people trying to compete in women’s sports but hardly ever see ftm people competing in male sports

[@therealmaizing5328]

Big reason for that is because ftm wouldn't stand a chance against biological males.

[@soniamendez-rodriguez7884]

they can't because taking testosterone is usually always is an automatic disqualification.

[@alexbeaulieu7982]

We wouldn't stand a chance and we know it

[@mikemac4458]

It's not that taking testosterone is a dq, their lvls are normal for a male. The issue is they don't have the same bone density and muscule structure as men. Put a f2m on a football field in the NFL and they will have broken bones after their first time getting hit full force.

[@tallard666]

@@soniamendez-rodriguez7884 False. The transgender Olympic rules state that "trans men" can do WHATEVER, have any testosterone levels, any surgery, and be allowed to compete against males. They don't because even boosted to toxic levels, they STILL don't have a chance against the best males.

[@amolloh]

A cheetah identifying as a male human finishes Olympic 100m sprint in a record 1.2 seconds!

[@varunjaihind3904]

I laughed out loud more than I should have 😂

[@sqocks8254]

_"Stunning and Brave"_

[@beepbadapup8523]

That's a bit exaggerated. Assuming constant acceleration the cheetah would experience 14.5 g's (compared to 3 g's astronauts feel during rocket launch). He would also be able to outrun any formula 1 car or fighter jet by a long shot.

[@chupawan5464]

In 2012, an 11-year-old cheetah (named Sarah) from the Cincinnati Zoo set a world record by running 100 m (330 ft) in 5.95 seconds over a set run, recording a maximum speed of 98 km/h (61 mph).

[@onarix]

@@beepbadapup8523 a cookie for you

[@tylerdordon99]

The fact that people are even having q debate over this is simply insane

[@michaelking2050]

The best part of this interview was when the interviewer started stating the differences/advantages between male and females in sports. The transwoman athlete said "you are talking about "the elite" level though". Reporter said, "arent you competing at the elite level though?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭

[@darkcat6530]

Like bruh we aren't even talking about some random club in a city that u Pay 50 Bucks a week to keep urself in a condition

[@JeffSmith-pl2pj]

It's true at every level.

[@EvilMonkey7818]

It's at every level. After running HS track for just 2 years as a boy if I were competing as a girl instead, I'd have broken at least 3 track and 3 field event state records. Maybe 4 each actually.

[@THEBIGZBEAR]

Which interview was this please? It's not in this clip

[@thienminh7729]

which part were you talking about sir ?

[@anacariananacarian915]

Women need to stick together to stop this nonsense of men competing against women. This will destroy women's sport

[@death2pc]

Well, of course. But that means violating LIBERALISM and THAT is not allowed....................

[@CommonMan77777]

Not only women. As a man I would totally support you. It is totally unfair that women athletes are forced to compete against basically men.

[@rightlibertarian8355]

No, it won't destroy women's sport. It will destroy feminism.

[@havokzthename]

Meh. When women wanted equality to join men sports and called men "feminist" because men thought it wouldnt be fair it was ok but now MEN want to transition to WOMEN sports and now its not fair...Its always something.

[@dRoscoAZ]

This is not Male nonsense, this is human nonsense. Because clearly the support of a large amount of cis females has allowed us to get where we are now. I will stand by women to protect them from this idiocy!

[@rocklee1381]

This is what happens when people agree more with feelings than facts

[@varunjaihind3904]

Makes a lot of sense in these times.

[@myamdane6895]

The same thing is happening with George Floyd.

[@センナ-h4c]

It's just another Western thing, feelings over facts, they have too much freedom

[@myamdane6895]

@@センナ-h4c You sound like an Arab

[@センナ-h4c]

@@myamdane6895 lol

[@moradsarwari864]

Now I know how to achieve my dream of becoming a gold medalist.

[@Mipeal]

The fact that this needs to be discussed because its not obvious for some people is sad actually. It even disrespects the whole concept of equality

[@Stack4Freedom]

Ikr this is unfair for women who have dedicated their entire lives to a sport and then when it comes times to use this hard earned skill they are being put up against "women" who have a unfair biological advantage over the rest

[@krusenator123]

It disrespects the concept of logic and having a brain at all lol

[@realityjunkie09]

Looking at this pink hair individual....i don't wanna competite against him/her and I'm a dude!

[@nielsssg]

This kind of inclusion is going to destroy women's sport

[@matrixmirage2148]

They brought this on themselves 🤷‍♂️

[@Grr-nz7zj]

I agree Nox

[@scottwallace9035]

No great loss, have you tried watching women football??

[@matrixmirage2148]

@@scottwallace9035 You mean, "watching paint dry"?

[@caitlinlloyd5001]

@@matrixmirage2148 How?

[@bmmz1435]

They just think about themselves, it's selfish nothing more, fairness would be if they had a class of their own.

[@hastsoul334]

Ye

[@Andrew-yl7lm]

They argue that there aren't enough trans people to make a league I believe. Still, it's just people complaining they can't have their cake and eat it imo.

[@largol33t1]

It's just infuriating how many girls in high school sports have had their dreams crushed by a man PRETENDING to be a woman because of butthurt liberals in schools.

[@OwGash]

well duh, lots of people go fake-trans just to get free wins

[@gfkjfjfnj]

Agree 100%, give them their own category

[@blackflycanada4943]

Trans people do not need to be excluded from sport. They just need to compete vs each other. Just add another category. Easy peasy... If they're there to compete, they'll be happy with it, if not. It's cause they want to cheat.

[@negativezer0741]

There are multiple reasons you can’t do that: 1:they are an incredibly small minority of the population 2:every country would have to agree with it to be put into the olympics. 3:not enough trans people would compete 4:it would be making the majority pander to a senseless minority

[@loando7812]

It's hard for me to understand the logic of our world now.

[@maroua120]

2+2=5

[@michaelxz1305]

easy... one or two minority voices shout really loudly on twitter and other social networks about perceived injustices... then obviously this "story" has to be covered by all the (liberal) media... so it just blows everything out of proportion..

[@thomassankala6043]

It's not you only ,the liberal are fool. don't try to understand be yourself .for me this athletes are man

[@sancho7863]

Progressives are not liberals. Modern progressives are asking for chaos, though, they probably don’t realize this because they’re driven by a sense of self righteousness. They’re dangerous people.

[@Master-Bait]

logic is hateful, according to them

[@potemkin8606]

literally the stupidest debate out there

[@dustintacohands1107]

I have no faith in our leaders

[@danielmay7266]

Agreed. Just let them do their thing. How haven’t people thought that trans women usually have takes estrogen?

[@Agtsmirnoff]

@@danielmay7266 Taking estrogen is irrelevant, if they have gone through any puberty without hormone blockers, they have a physiological advantage that no amount of estrogen is going to compensate for taking as an adult.

[@Agtsmirnoff]

I agree. who cares. It doesn't affect the one's competitions and that is all that matters.

[@danielmay7266]

@@Agtsmirnoff I forgot to mention that over time it suppresses testosterone levels to the point where women, trans or not are closer to each other than they are closer to men. That's why I put the emphasis on the estrogen.

[@Maya-sv1pz]

one day, a teacher lay out a paper basket in front of the class and asked his students to throw a paper ball each into the basket. the rule being, you have to do it sitting from your desk. So naturally the front line students get to score while the rows after them gets progressively lower scores. At the end of the game the last few rows of students complain that this is unfair and nobody from the first row say a word. Moral of the story: those with unfair advantages never complain. Of course most trans will defend that they should compete with the gender they identify as, especially male to female trans, they are reaping the unfair advantage. duh

[@rickitysplitz7035]

@@nebulabunny8633 What if those cis people identify? I am making a joke.

[@cilldaracyclist2822]

Enough of this "cis" bs.... Man and woman that's all there is.

[@amanrush7722]

I blamed the women for not willing to take a stand. Boycott!! Only money can make them change the rules.