Are THESE Steve BUFFS & FIXES What We NEEDED?

[@MJfp6lx]

Credits to Numan for carrying such a buggy and nerfed character like Steve. Low High is the most charitable man picking Steve and giving away rounds to Chikurin at Evo Japan grand finals by using such an impossible character with so many bugs. Majority of these "buffs" are actually just issues that should've never been there in the first place. They're fixing their own mistakes and calling them buffs 😂

[@tristanherb49]

exactly he hasnt received any buffs yet

[@TK-ev]

*Almost* wish Numan didn't have as much success (before the patch) since they will likely misinterpret Numan having great reads as Steve's toolkit being fine.

[@trinichinee6426]

The more and more I see harada and Murray .. the more I see they doing things to take us for fools .. They will do one thing and say another thing or buff one character one way and " buff" another character the same way

[@tristanherb49]

yeah ngl but they should be able to differentiate between player strength and character strength....​@@TK-ev

[@MJfp6lx]

@@TK-ev they'll have to if they want to keep the game alive. Because it's online player base is falling very fast due to lots of balance issues,patches and DLCs. The balance it's suffering from is the same issue Tekken 6 died. Easy characters are way too OP(Azucena Feng Dragunov Lars Lilli Law) and hard characters were barely used(Bryan kazuya Heihachi). The tournaments also ended in the same blink and you'll miss pacing. Tekken 7 average viewers were 7k whereas Tekken 8 Evo viewers were 900-1k. They're losing their own audience

[@Kozi15]

If they also increase the damage of B+1, B+2, and df+2👌

[@GamerNemy]

I think b1 is ok b2 & df2 could use a buff for real now

[@rrrlee1273]

Wish they would just make df2 ch launch again just doing the shiro combo was just fun in it of itself

[@GamerNemy]

Bro I swear😪 Such a shame

[@lonney-oo3pp]

Shit, bring back the df2 ch launch combo from T7 Season 1. I'd be happy if they do that.

[@rrrlee1273]

@lonney-oo3pp nah bro doing the shiro combo on someone was more about sending a message. You were basically showing that not only are you probably fundamentally better than them you probably got better execution too lol. You meant business if you could land that consistently.

[@lonney-oo3pp]

@@rrrlee1273 that combo was never intended in the first place. S1 combo was the actual combo for df2 and had better damage as well as smoother execution. "Sending a message"? Seriously, that combo is damn overrated, and I say this as a Steve main who uses the Shiro combo.

[@rrrlee1273]

@@lonney-oo3pp k lol

[@m.yudiyudi2316]

i agree, instead of UF2 why they don't buff CH DF2 and bring back Shiro Combo 😂. also i was hoping they give us Easy input for LH transition into PAb but no they completely removed it. #bringShiroComboback

[@GamerNemy]

#BringBackShiroCombo!

[@m.yudiyudi2316]

there's so many things Steve need from previous game. - 1+2 heat dash needs to be full combo not just small follow-up. i mean most of character has easy input i14 heat dash launcher. - needs more damage for Gutling Punch. - bring back CH DF2 like from T7. it's okay to be linear move but please give us back CH DF2 Knockdown - of course bring back Shiro Combo - fix issue when you -9 but you can still got punish by i10 move. this is just my personal experience. I'm pretty sure i was holding back after -9 but my opponent can still punish me. - gives us something from CH QCF 2, like Knockdown or something else. we risking our health bar for some move that just gives us +2 on CH - LH stance transition or make it can do cancel. - UF4 launcher on normal hit. it's okay if it's -13 just like generic Hopkick, but make it launcer on normal hit. - increase B1 recovery frame. as we know Steve B1 on T7 has been nerf, decrease recovery frame.

[@TK-ev]

Steve could really use more plus frames on hit. Everything is a split-second decision with Steve, even when he supposedly has the advantage. PKB d1 has so few frames on hit that down-jab beats almost every follow-up action. 1234 should be a natural combo on counter, since many characters have hit confirmable strings that can even wall splat, oki or combo.

[@GamerNemy]

Mmm I'm not sure about plus frames cause that's not really his architype. But I can get behind the 1234 CH change.

[@nevergiveup5351]

I am starting to see a lot more people play I feel like people just join the meta

[@GamerNemy]

Yeah I think people are excited for the update and the EVO Japan excitement too

[@TheInfiniteKamui]

they can rage art even after fix

[@GamerNemy]

You can safely cancel though

[@Mironderrr]

Steve needs hard version of Gatling that deals more damage than the easy one, because he lacks the wall damage. Also he lacks the normal hit launchers. It would be better if they added launch for sonic fang on heat dash. And they should return shiro combo at least for extdck 1 and flk b2

[@GamerNemy]

Yeah I would get behind all these changes

[@cursedcrow1033]

Why ? Ch b1 full combo plus gatling does 88 damage and with flicker 2 ch for example as starter you get 98 damage . Tbh thats good damage. I think his damage and wall carry are very good in this game

[@TK-ev]

@@cursedcrow1033 Steve's normal combo damage is below average. That is a very bad tradeoff for a character that is allegedly the best at counter hits, and who lost many knockdowns / oki situations. If you aren't fully prepared to execute a near optimal combo every time, it is almost a waste picking Steve when you can get more value out of picking someone with insane movement like Lily, or a character with better stray hits like Victor / Nina.

[@theWolfyugo]

#GamerNemy kip us posted on SteveFox buffs & nerfs sir. Great & detailed assessment of the update!

[@GamerNemy]

Sure bro🔥

[@HenryNesta-o5b]

Back 1 on block still eats 12 frame punish…..most neglected character of this game

[@GamerNemy]

Yeah Can still cancel with db to stay safe though

[@HenryNesta-o5b]

@@GamerNemy yes but can you use flk after that and adding these little cancels here and there only increases difficulty of an already nerfed character….I think the developers couldn’t figure out how to fit steve in the tekken 8 mechanics.

[@cursedcrow1033]

B1 still bugged and still no full combo from ch df 2 or atleast df 2 homing properties . Besides that good changes and a good start

[@GamerNemy]

Yeah A food start indeed

[@KrisDee1981]

Just to let you know Bro. Even now at +7 LNH 1(i14) beats Rage Arts. RA = i8 Power Crushes/Burst = i7 After the Patch db3,4 / b1,2 uf3,2 / 3,1,2 / 4,1,2 LNH 1 will beat RA/PC/Burst. So the same like right now after blocked Heat Smash (+8) Of course they can still parry LNH 1, but this is hard to do, especially in FT2 matches.

[@GamerNemy]

Oh awesome🔥

[@xer05tar]

Its crazy to see this analysis of meta when none of it applies to how I play with steve

[@GamerNemy]

Damn

[@showtimefu1234]

They need to implement a way to go into peekaboo for LH for the next patch since they don't want to give us a laucher let steve be a super mixup character and they need to make his B1 faster

[@GamerNemy]

I do agree with the LH change But b1 being faster would be too busted People already hate b1 for the way it currently is😅

[@MJfp6lx]

A new recent discovery by i am op is that his b1 holding back flicker can't guard and if his heat smash whiffs he's -28F. Besides that the actual issues with LH are still there. Why does he get locked into a stance that's literally crap compared to any other stance he as? Why can't he block from LH. Why remove knockdown into albatross guaranteed follow up? Why is LH inferior in every metric to everyone of Feng's back kenpo options? Even with these changes Steve isn't close to what top tiers like dragunov feng or new under the radar top tiers like law or lilly are capable of doing. On top of all that the heart of the issue is Steve/Bryan/kazuya are literally still the hardest characters in the game. There's no reward for learning their highly complicated combos set ups and mind games when Victor Lilli Dragunov Feng can get you better performance with half the effort. Bamco has to fix this game in a few months otherwise at the rate the playerbase is falling for this game they might actually seriously kill this game

[@BeretBay]

PhiDx has been talking about b1 this entire time.

[@tristanherb49]

​@@BeretBayhe also dropped steve recently

[@MJfp6lx]

@@tristanherb49 because Steve is dead

[@genesistan3928]

I think his b1 combo needs to do a little more damage. The UF2 buff was not needed in my opinion.

[@GamerNemy]

B1 actually deals more damage than it did in Tekken 7. As for uf2, I agree

[@theWolfyugo]

#HeeraMalik #HeeraMalik

[@victorcalalang997]

Lazy devs.. daily patch is needed to fix their game