Are they forcing the heaviness? - Architects "Blackhole" (Reaction)

[@Renix]

Architects : "Not heavy enough" Architects "heavy forced" they cant win xD

[@TylerFast441]

Considering their choruses ruin every song now, it's valid.

[@charliebrouun6510]

They really can't LMAO

[@MachoMitch101]

I think most fans couldn't care less if they're heavy or not, they just want it to be good 🤷

[@Renix]

@@TylerFast441 you gotta admit this one was good

[@TylerFast441]

​@@RenixIt was mostly fun. I liked the solo.

[@MrWestNileVirus]

I think the chorus is integrated exceptionally well. The verses flow so seamlessly into it. Sure, it's super melodic and catchy, but it blends with the song from the high-energy from Sam's belting notes.

[@andreibrendler5010]

Architects is dead for Bogdan, you can see he's forcing himself to listen kkkkk

[@bogdanhxc]

Dead Butterflies

[@andreibrendler5010]

@bogdanhxc to me, for those who wish to exist is their best work, love that album

[@bogdanhxc]

@@andreibrendler5010 it is amazing. I wish they did more of that sound

[@me-ou3hs]

I don’t necessarily think he’s forcing himself, more like he gave up on the band since he hasn’t liked their last few records he goes in not expecting much from them and I mean it’s pretty fair, tbh I’ve enjoyed some of their recent stuff but to me it just doesn’t compare to their older records

[@SaintDorado]

I love how everybody has the "oh big hand" reaction at the end of the music video

[@xmajin8871]

After presidential elections it's very important to have big hands these days

[@TheNamesFathom]

I’ve yet to see a reactor notice that the hand is from the album cover

[@Rage-op7xz]

I appreciate the fact that you're one of the more honest react channels. Most have basically just given up on actually giving their opinion because it's easier to grow an audience if you just like everything. I very much agree with what you said, for me, the architects "fall off" was never because of heaviness, it was authenticity, FTWTE was authentic and i liked it, the one after felt like a bad compromise for everyone, heavier, but even more artificial and boring. This is definitely getting back to their heavier side, but it's still missing originality. This song feels like what happens if you average all of the popular metalcore of the last 4 years, but without actually taking what made these individual songs good. It's not bad but it misses something, multiple bands could have written this exact song. The once so famous architects sound is just gone.

[@ensco7]

Agreed, it's not bad, just painfully generic. There's nothing unique about this song.

[@MDLuFFy19]

That's not how things work dude, get off the high horse

[@credaaaooo824]

exactly, on my comment on the original video the exact thing i pointed out was how extremely generic this is, but people will still be drooling over it because its Architects

[@Rage-op7xz]

​@@MDLuFFy19 i don't even really get what you're trying to say. I'm not acting like a pretentious cunt that doesn't like anything that doesn't sound like an exact copy of their earlier work. I'm just asking them to make something a bit more distinctive and not this generic. I don't hate this track, it's just not really doing anything for me as it sounds identical to whiplash and curse.

[@JosayYap]

i think this is something funny to listen to, it lacks the essence of the architects i fell in love with, but its still something enjoyable and definitly better than the classics syntomps of a broken spirit

[@chrizszx]

One of their best songs since holy hell imo

[@thursdayfivenine3106]

Agreed

[@gangstergnock5813]

agreed brother

[@kubyasek1406]

For me its one of the best choruses they ever did and one of the best modern songs since holy hell they did. Chorus struct me emotionally which hasnt happened with architects since FTWWTE. I'm very much looking forward to the new album.

[@deimos.93]

I agree, I also don’t really agree with his statement that they are forcing the heaviness. I don’t see why the song being really heavy with a clean chorus is an issue in this song, but not the countless other songs that he reacts to. I still enjoy his reactions but I just disagree on that point. I do agree on the production being way too clean as it can get a bit repetitive and lack some punch, but that doesn’t take away from the songwriting for me as I feel this song is one of their strongest in a while

[@thursdayfivenine3106]

Im in love with that chorus.

[@miguelgomes6849]

best single track since holy hell

[@aaronnewell2349]

Couldn't agree more

[@tomk8350]

I liked Black Lungs more

[@bestwest80]

@@tomk8350 Same, Animals and A New Moral Low Ground both beat this too

[@BenGad98]

thats my thoughts exactly

[@thursdayfivenine3106]

Agreed

[@d1rxen1]

they had one guitar solo in the new moral low ground, however this one feels much more natural and enjoyable

[@terogates1]

Where was it at in that song cus that’s my favorite on the album,

[@tobiasgreven254]

Really? That solo in New Moral Low Ground is my absolute favourite thing off that album

[@d1rxen1]

@ its in the second half of the song instead of breakdown

[@jimmytoothpaste1757]

New Moral Low Ground Solo wasn't forced at all, fit perfectly with the song and wasn't a typical shreddy solo either

[@thursdayfivenine3106]

Agreed.

[@Rapidfyreszn]

My thoughts on Architects are basically that these new tracks are fun head bangers, but nothing they have put out recently makes me THINK. Its just loud and heavy and fun, but not, and I dont mean this in a bad way, meaningful. All Our Gods makes me sit and listen to the lyrics and the message they were trying to send. These new tracks dont. With that said, this is the best song they have put out in years.

[@TylerFast441]

And that impact they drop by making you think is what made their older stuff so much better. Not necessarily because it was "heavy." Throw in phenomenal riffing on top of that emotional impact and you can clearly hear the night and day difference between then and what their attempting to do now. Forced heaviness.

[@antonmakovetskyi8350]

Same here, emotion > heaviness...

[@artistrankings6794]

exactly my opinion. tho i still feel like fttwte was rly strong sonically and conceptually. it was just different

[@iMattLewis]

Yeah this comment is my thoughts exactly

[@RevMesmer_VT]

I like the new song. I don't think the heaviness is forced, it represents the mayhem happening and I appreciate it.

[@codiction]

I dont think heaviness is forced neither, I really liked this song, even the chorus

[@wallysnakes2690]

If it was forced the chorus wouldn’t be there

[@boohzr]

For Those Who Wish To Exist was amazing and I wish they continued down the route of something like that instead of pushing this somewhat regurgitated "arena metalcore" vibes which I do like but its getting stale. Classic Symptoms was not it, however I do enjoy this song and Whiplash. I think they are both pretty good songs and i enjoyed listening to them.

[@gerrylarry5171]

I know exactly what you mean with their choruses. When you listen to these new songs and then go back and listen to the chorus on The Distant Blue, it’s like maaaan.. why can’t they do that again!?!?

[@HilmiMasrafchi]

The "Distant Blue" is an exceptional song indeed.

[@JosayYap]

that song its a masterpiece, i would do everything to had another album with the same sound as lost forever/lost together

[@ОлегШевченко-к8и]

It’s kinda feels like in “Lost forever…” and “All our gods…” albums they were putting their souls and feelings into songs. And we believed it and can feel it too. And now they like “We’ll tryna get you what you want from us but we don’t know what we actually want… here, take this, maybe it’ll work” and old-Architects fans feels like they were treated with cardboard burger

[@gerrylarry5171]

@@ОлегШевченко-к8и I think it also has to do with them not wanting to repeat themselves with the same formula over and over. So they are trying to find different ways to switch it up. Sometimes it hits, sometimes it doesn’t

[@AdamKadill]

Seeing Red was forced heaviness, but I suppose that was the entire point of the song being a bit of banter. This song, while still a far cry from their works of 2009-2017, is an enjoyable listening experience and I find this and the previous singles waaaay better than the last album. I also loved FTTWTE, but this is also shaping up to be a great album IMO. It is very polished and produced, taking away the raw edge of All our gods etc. But that's just modern metal nowadays. Definitely my favourite of the singles so far, Curse being second.

[@matheuzinffc]

my favorite Architects song from recent years, I really liked the solo

[@hell_abaddon]

I saw Sam talking with Rock Feed a couple of days ago, he seemed very happy about the direction of the band, album and overall vibe in the band, I can clearly hear it in this single, probably one of the best song they made in years

[@KristianC1994]

It's not a bad song by any means but I forgot it almost as soon as the track ended. These guys used to have their own thing going within the metalcore space, whereas this could be any number of bands.

[@Pathological100]

I saw someone describe it as "baby's first metalcore" 😂

[@michaelclarke1716]

This is how I feel. Sam just feels like a different vocalist. They feel more cheesy.

[@suchyczowiek2460]

I guess there's a lot more competition these days and we just compare it to them. If they released it in Holy Hell times - a lot more people would love it. Or maybe it's the lyrics that seem less genuine, idk.

[@michaelclarke1716]

@suchyczowiek2460 I feel like every song on holy hell was better than this. Not just the lyrics but the whole song feels less genuine than their older stuff. Their newer stuff feels like a different vibe to me.

[@Clapton803]

The reaction from most fans to this song really does seem to be: heavy = good and it really doesn't. The guitar parts are so unimaginative - cut up 0-0-0-1 riffs are such a departure from what actually made architects inspiring and interesting - its not bad but its just not interesting to me in the same way architects used to grab me

[@two_days_slow]

I for one am a fan of the new songs and especially this one. I do not think the heaviness is forced as I expected this after Josh left the band and Jordan was added.

[@deadlyspike9699]

But Jordan is only the producer from the album?

[@two_days_slow]

@deadlyspike9699 he writes the songs along with Sam and Dan.

[@RavetsU]

This song was good at first, but unfortunately it suffered the same fate as whiplash. It fell off really fast for me. It's not a bad song by any means. I see why people like it. Maybe Architects is just not for me anymore.

[@CanadianGr3atness]

This sounds a lot like their old stuff so not sure what you are wanting.

[@RavetsU]

@CanadianGr3atness I agree. The problem however is not how it sounds. It's really hard to describe what the core problem is for me personally. Maybe "uninspiring" or "boring" but those sound too harsh. You can keep your sound and still evolve and do interesting stuff. It's almost like they have so much potential yet they fail to reach it. I'll definitely still check out the album tho!

[@TylerFast441]

​@CanadianGr3atness it doesnt sound like their old stuff at all.

[@Ecstas345]

​@@RavetsUI agree. I still enjoy these new songs but I don't jam them constantly like I do with their older works. I feel like some of their original sound was lost in this new phase. I wish more bands did what Red has done with their sound. They kept their "core" sound while trying some different things in their albums. If people like it or not is subjective, but one can't say that they lost a part of their identity.

[@maybeitsfred]

I think it’s the mix. It feels overly polished as though everything’s been rounded off. Even compared to softer songs from AOGHAU, this still feels softer. The older songs feel raw, the guitars have sharpness to them like they could cut you. These overly polished songs are like a butter knife in comparison. The other thing is the lyrics, I find them less memorable. I probably won’t remember this song like I don’t remember any from the last album. BUT this is the best song they've released in recent years. Will aways be a fan!

[@DavRich98]

How heavy do you want the song to be? Architects: “Yes”

[@Joose]

I mean, it's the first good song since Holy Hell. Doesn't sound forced to me. Just sounds fun.

[@EstebanChannel227]

One of the Best Songs of 2025

[@thursdayfivenine3106]

The best metal so far* from 2025

[@Kovs223]

I don’t care if they are forcing the heaviness, it sounds good and makes my brain happy and that’s all that matters

[@ОлегШевченко-к8и]

The “do Architects ever had a solo in their songs” really knocked me out… I listened them since Daybreaker I guess and can’t even remember one

[@Idontwanttoexistt]

Watching this instead of studying for exam

[@MesaLoveYou]

Good luck man , hope you pass :)

[@bogdanhxc]

thank you, but now go focus on your studying lol

[@TomOtomanski]

The Jordan Fish formula wearing you down slowly?

[@adrielAlpuche]

No.

[@sempikernal]

Kinda

[@CanadianGr3atness]

Can’t satisfy anyone. 🙄

[@Dodogama5474]

It's very clear you're a superfan of Architects based on how you've lashed out at multiple comments, calling them ignorant and such. You're wearing some pretty heavily tinted glass there, bud. These are valid criticisms and it doesn't matter if you don't like it.

[@CanadianGr3atness]

@ lol nah only valid from people who enjoy nothing more than to be edgy and negative. 🤡

[@wallysnakes2690]

@@Dodogama5474he likes Memphis mayfire. Which is just the worse version of this current architects.

[@austinfrance8572]

I believe they had enough of us giving them backlash for not being heavy, so now they are like screw it here you go. So I don’t think it’s forced. I’m enjoying the new stuff. Hats off to the guys and Jordan Fish on the Production

[@RebeIMate]

I bet that this chorus will sound much better in live conditions when there is (hopefully) not much other extra than raw emotion, skill and energy!

[@AnxiousCHKNLeg]

Jordan Fish is the reason they sound like this. It's clear Sam and the band were lost about what direction to take next, and his stepping in and helping the band is EXACTLY what they needed.

[@50mattman]

Best track since holy hell!

[@alexwoods4535]

People saying this is the most heavy architects song Songs like: early grave, broken cross, nihilist "yeahh sure is the heavy" but yeah the song is fine is a banger

[@jasons.9445]

No matter what this is one of the only song i've cared for by them in a long time so i'm happy

[@birdiemaradoth]

i dont really care if they force the heavyness as long as the song is good, i liked this one quite a bit! Curse > black hole > whiplash > seeing red

[@chrizszx]

Exactly my rating, although I didnt like whiplash and seeing red

[@pedroferrari820]

I didn't liked any of the other singles, but this one slaps so hard. The best chorus since gravedigger.

[@Sorinacio206]

They had a solo before on "a new moral low ground". :)

[@bogdanhxc]

ok fair enough, i forgot about that album as soon as I listened to it for the first time

[@theshredster77]

@@bogdanhxclmaooo

[@wallysnakes2690]

@@bogdanhxcit’s also not really a solo, kinda just some noise

[@Rosterized]

@@wallysnakes2690 if im remembering correctly it was some few leads that lasted no more than 10 seconds, i was losing my shit when i saw people call that a "solo". Not to be elitist or anything but no thats not a guitar solo lmao. This one on this song was a way better example

[@giovanniaued6815]

learn to live(2011)???

[@joaolopes8763]

While it doesn't sound like the Architects that I love and got me into metalcore, this was a good well produced metalcore song. But my problem with this and current metalcore is that it all sounds the same to me too much production, quantized instruments that sound like robots playing, unnatural vocal production. Maybe it's my taste in general that is changing like I've been more drawn to post hardcore, 2000's revivalcore and alternative metal lately.

[@kw-wf9uf]

They're in a weird spot because every other band has since taken their old style and iterated on it. If they tried to do the same they would just be accused of copying Currents or IA. They're also just in better places mentally so the doom and gloom of All Our Gods just isn't as prevalent with them. Their focus is clearly now on their live shows, where this will absolutely pop off. That chorus is fantastic. I really like this song, but I do wish FTTWTE became their new blueprint. It was fresh, interesting, impactful and a chart-topper. They're making fun music and having fun doing it, love that for them. That's about it.

[@bogdanhxc]

Guys, I thought my opinion came out very tame and normal when making this video... How much tamer do u want it?

[@TylerFast441]

It was absolutely tame. Architect fans have gotten defensive now that theyre mid.

[@C0ffeeKing]

My favorite single since the Holy Hell album

[@TheD_1031]

I completely respect your opinion, and I get it. But I love this, I think this has set an amazing standard for metalcore this year. I think it sounds really clean and groovy.

[@tomasaguiar8482]

The chorus in this song is so good and that tasty guitar solo really ads to the song. However, Architects don’t hit like they used to anymore. Tom Searle was a genius guitarist and songwriter. May he be in the grace of god. Overall I’m just happy for these guys, and just want them to have fun doing what they love

[@Dodogama5474]

I think the problem is that Architects ruined their image and the audience perception of them. It doesn't matter if they make a heavy song again because we no longer see them as genuine. Going back and listening to Gravity, Hereafter, or Memento Mori, you really feel just how insincere their new music is, regardless of its heaviness.

[@HilmiMasrafchi]

Exactly!

[@Lszturmann]

Same song from spiritbox would blow your mind… 😂

[@Dodogama5474]

Even Spiritbox would've made it more interesting

[@bogdanhxc]

Spiritbox writing is miles better nowadays

[@mattavalos]

i find it interesting how many people don't like these choruses bcuz i can't get enough of em 😩😩😩

[@HomemFutebol]

It's not a bad song by any means, but i don't know, what caught my attention most about Architects back then were the build ups, and in these new singles i just don't feel that. Obviously they have no obligation to stick to a specific formula or make the sound that a certain audience expects, but these are my current feelings about the band.

[@thewretch4081]

Thank you for being honest Bogdan

[@AphineHalo]

Yo what are with the comments saying you're hating on this?? You're literally sharing your opinion and you were fair and unbiased and even said some positive things about it before saying why you don't like it...

[@bogdanhxc]

Because people love to hate. Most of them probably didn't get past halfway mark of the video. Also many of them erased a line between critique and hate, so for them any negativity that goes outside of their predetermined opinion is hatred. Oh well.

[@craftymoustache]

"It's fun, but I don't really feel much" sums it up pretty well for me. I wanna like it, but I think I've also just cooled down on them. Curse was my favourite from their recent singles, because it captured that Jordan Fish influence the best. Other than that it all feels a bit uninspired.

[@RTXBRINGER]

So heavy I can breathe again! The chorus...feels right...it is very tuned...but it is intended that way.

[@howvery_]

lol i love being a semi-casual off/on listener of metal that didnt know people existed who dont like cleans or wanted bleghs in every song etc etc till last year bc i have no clue what architects used to sound like, and with nothing to compare it to, i just really like this *shrugs*

[@jamestrieseverything279]

im so glad i am not the only one who has felt this way.

[@danwy]

I'm going to echo a common opinion of many of their fans, their songs just don't hit. I don't know if it's the more modern sound and mix, but they just are not the same as something like Holy Hell, or even FTTWTE. It just sounds like your normal metalcore, but for me, Architects are meant to be something more than that, and they just aren't that anymore. I hope that with the release of the album I actually enjoy it, but right now it just doesn't hit.

[@sebhue2636]

Someone that has been following Architects for around 15 years, I feel like they have given all they can give at this point and I find their latest music lacking originality and ideas but with massive budget. At least the new Guitarist has given something slightly fresh to a band that I feel have lost their way.

[@Unearthlywhales]

Answer yes. Hollow Crown won't ever be beaten on that "heavyness" scale for them. I'm past them now just don't trigger my "ohhh that's fucking awesome" gland no more.

[@elfoseto5128]

It feels weird because of the chorus. But I really thing that if this song was released during the holy hell time it would have been received well and it's heaviness praised. So I'm very happy with this single, hope the rest of the album is this consistent.

[@AyyFuji]

My issue I realised with this track, is how “emotionless” or “devoid of character” the riffs have. Listened to it twice, put on Gone With The Wind and Hereafter, and both have more character in their riffs within the first minute. I listen to Architects for fun technical riffs, not “generic metalcore detuned chugs”. And yeah, I agree, the heavy feels forced, they just want to write clean arena singy choruses, the heavy feels forced because there’s no attempt to create a good transition between them.

[@october-xxv]

Architects hater doesn’t like new Architects song 😱 colour me shocked!

[@bogdanhxc]

hater is when expressing a reserved opinion

[@october-xxv]

@ an opinion you only started to express when a certain someone of the band expressed their own opinion 👍

[@bogdanhxc]

incorrect, I also disliked the previous album for pretty much all the same reasons. 👍

[@fiend265x]

​@@october-xxv bruv, you're such a clown, you can find some videos for previous album and singles for this one that were released before the "controversy" happened and hear the same thing: he didn't really enjoy it and was being nice about it then and now. he could've completely ignored those new releases from architects if it was because of controversy, that happened before.

[@naDalous]

Never thought I'd see the day where you reacted to another Architects song. I know you don't like them anymore, but this is an absolute banger and I cannot wait for the album

[@TylerFast441]

I agree with everything. I keep saying I dont necessarily want *heavy* Architects, I just dont want these kind of cheesey, jarring and out of place choruses that ruin whatever they have going. Seeing Red for example does this "We're heavy because you keep whinning to us to be heavy!" And it just comes across as cringe, Curse has a cool riff that gets ruined immediately by the chorus. The next two songs are definitely more fun, but have the same problem.

[@emmythevelociraptor]

I think one of my biggest problems with Architects at the moment is that they're lacking a truly great riff writer in the vein of Tom and Josh. So these new songs are super heavy and aggressive but they're lacking memorable riffs to make that heaviness truly meaningful and memorable. I actually wonder whether Adam has started writing the riffs or if they are written by Dan (or maybe even Jordan Fish) with virtual guitars

[@Rage-op7xz]

I don't think it's Jordan, the new Poppy record has way more interesting guitars and that's all done by Jordan (with help from Stevis of house of protection). I think it's probably Dan with some very minimal input from Adam and maybe a few finishing touches from Jordan. I actually think the guitars would've been more interesting if Jordan could just do whatever he wanted.

[@ject-6817]

architects in this song feels like playing "safe" for an album

[@XAVR_]

Big song, and certainly enjoyable like the rest of the singles, but it still feels they're trying to catch smoke with their bare hands in terms of chasing the absolute perfection that was AOGHAU

[@TheNamesFathom]

Honestly I didn’t feel like the chorus was out of place here although I do think the one in Curse was.

[@MachoMitch101]

They absolutely are forcing it, not a big fan of any of their new tracks. It's also so painfully obvious that some of the best aspects are the Jordan fish influence. While I do think this is better than their last album, that's not saying a whole lot.

[@CanadianGr3atness]

lol ignorant comment. Just complaining to be complaining at this point

[@MachoMitch101]

It is what it is, I don't hate it by any means but it does feel like they've lost every ounce of originality they once had.

[@chrisposey1618]

Love this song and all there new stuff. People are always gonna be crying about stuff lord

[@Andy_Pancake]

I think the song is dope actually

[@Wathapn1]

Blackhole is impressive

[@gamermoviedude5533]

I like it more on repeated listens, but my biggest gripe is that it doesn’t feel like it has a rhythm or groove to it. It’s so all over the place with its beat and riffs that it’s distracting, so I also feel like they’re doing too much to make it heavy that I wish moments would breathe a little bit. This album has me tugging my collar a bit.

[@igorkudryk2199]

I liked the chorus the most. It's so emotional and has been on repeat since the song came out.

[@nyctophilex7]

Falling In Reverse video.

[@DaveExclamationMarkYognaught]

glad I'm not the only one feeling a sort of ick with these architects singles, the vibes are off

[@octaviogallo8513]

I have to weigh things up. They've been around for years, does this song sound good? Definitely yes, but is there anything different from the rest of the songs? Definitely not. I'm more surprised by the video than the song.

[@brendanverstraeten1120]

Bruh, is it is impossible for you to like a song😂 Love the reactions though

[@rigby117]

He's very critical lately

[@hydrus2076]

He likes a song if it's good all around, he doesn't have to like what you like.

[@EldenLord.]

@@hydrus2076 This song is good all around though. Also the songs he likes, I often dont like lol.

[@hydrus2076]

@@EldenLord. Alright I'll put it down even simpler. There's this thing called an opinion, you have it, Bogdan had it. Clearly they're different.

[@joaolopes8763]

@@hydrus2076 Nah you're plain wrong. You are saying that people can have different opinions? Hahahah, no bro. Everybody knows that if a react youtuber doesn't like a song his hair starts falling, look at Fantano. And Bogdan's hair is as fake as his taste in music

[@viniciuscustodio2942]

I miss the old weird guitar tune that forced them to be different instead of spamming power chords

[@EmberGlow_H]

hmm this is probably my favorite single out of the 4 but idk if ill check out the full album cus it all kinda blends in the same, and i've kinda grown tired of this type of metalcore sound if im gonna be honest.(not bad, just not my thing i suppose). i did like the solo the most tbh. i wont complain much, architects honestly gave me my favorite albums to listen to in highschool and i love every record they've put out except the last one(once again, not bad just not my thing lol). on a side note for any guitarists: are they playing in regular drop g# tuning or their normal g# tuning? i noticed in the music video it looks like he's playing in drop g# but i honestly can't tell lol.

[@rpm_runner0016]

This song sounds really, really overproduced, oversaturated...

[@SimbaChar]

I really don't know how to feel about this one. I LOVE Architects. LF//LT is tattooed on my body. I enjoyed FTWWTE after a long period of growing pains with it. I enjoyed a few tracks off Classic Symptoms. I actually liked Whiplash quite a bit too. I just haven't clicked with this one yet. Its hard for me to hear Architects "going back to being heavy" because it isn't their sound when they do. This is 100% a heavy song but it does not sound like a Architects song whatsoever. Since FTWWTE it feels like they are losing their unique sound and doing what BMTH did 10 years ago. I love BMTH also but when I put on an Architects track I wanna hear an Architects song, not Architects performing a BMTH song. I love the guys. I go into every project with so much excitement to see what they do next and I wish them the best. I just wish they would evolve their unique sound to create something a bit more *them* instead of trying to sound more like everyone else.

[@johnwolfhooker4992]

Honestly, this the best song since holy hell. For those that wish to exist was a watered down version of them and a producer's nightmare. Classic symptoms was a gathering of some lil fun tunes. This is the architects I loved.

[@thenightranger987]

I think the only song that’s felt like forced heaviness was Seeing Red because that was kinda the point. I really like this song, but I think it’s a bit of a step down from Whiplash mainly because it had fantastic lyrics

[@sebm253]

3:40 I think the most recent song would be a new moral low ground

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

no

[@thekiminthenorth504]

I agree, architects are archimehs now

[@Jmespo83]

It’s funny reading all the discourse around Architects. It reminds me a lot of In Flames. I enjoy them but they’ve never been a band that I really followed or got invested in so I don’t care one way or another how people feel about the Architects, but I don’t think the band will ever be ‘good enough’ for a lot of people out there.

[@carterbond1243]

Your face when the chorus starts is hilarious haha I’m not a fan of it but the rest of the song is pretty solid. Wish they’d do more stuff like FTTWTE and get a little weird

[@JohnSmith-th7lx]

You make some great points!

[@neshyok]

as a solo listener, i think the issue is not the song itself but the CRAZY amount of similar sounds we've listened in the past years, we're tired of the same format of heavy-chorus-heavy-chorus, i can definitely appreciate jordan fish's work here and on poppy's album, but this formula is SO tired, at least that's what i feel.

[@neshyok]

i think i should mention i love Architects and my favourite single yet is Curse, you can definitely feel jordan's sound impacting architects for the first times and it was magical.

[@Lee_dafragrance]

One of the best choruses they have written, perfect mix, the videography is uncanny, a guitar solo like a slap to the haters, the song is well written, is at doomsday level finally,

[@bogdanhxc]

respectfully this is nowhere near doomsday level

[@Kabinbr]

@@bogdanhxc agree, doomsday had a lot of weight and emotion, well crafted song, blackhole its just not it

[@oleksandrhorskyi8442]

you might like it as much as you did like doomsday but blackhole is nowhere near doomsday in terms of...everything?

[@metalbangerbible5443]

I’m late to the races with Architects having only discovered them 2020 or so. For me, who has no attachment to their older work…I prefer their newer stuff!

[@mupicap7927]

This is a banger track!

[@wadahboy9142]

The answer : yes.

[@tubadude07]

I wonder if Architects as a band were planning on going in a 'less guitar-y' approach after Holy Hell, or did Tom's death accelerate that? Blackhole is heavy for sure but guitars aren't main focus anymore (lol Blackhole as a guitar solo as I type this).

[@alexiluffy216]

They used to be metalcore at heart. Now they are buttrock at heart. They can wrap it with as many double kicks, low gutturals, breakdowns as they want like they do in this song. But it's still just metalcore-coated buttrock. Not much different than what ADTR was doing with their track Feedback.

[@TheLastDaysOfSorrow]

Post Holy Hell Architects evaluation has been quite the dilemma imo. They tried to "evolve" from their trademark sound which didn't exactly land well with many. Then they released a big ironic "metalcore by numbers" track with Seeing Red as a fuck you to the haters, which I frankly hated. It came off as undermining their own style while clowning on you for liking it. And now they kinda went back to that modern metalcore where I'm not sure if its genuine or not? They're also missing the open space and emotional depth of their LFLT/AOGHAU/Holy Hell era but then again - can't really hold it against them given the history behind those albums. I do enjoy their latest singles and look forward to their new album, which might ultimately be all that matters.

[@nehemiasgonzalez6989]

the specific drum production is used by everyone now a days, so un original snd lazy

[@CoCOxDnBz]

Imminence album?👀

[@maggotsxcl7403]

Like always he has to be different 💀😂

[@dante93nero]

Favourite single is still curse tbh. The singles are good to have on a playlist in the middle of others. They're good but ya

[@mammasflapjax]

I don't dislike these new tracks by any means and I think if they were written by a different Metalcore band I'd be quite happy to bop my head along to them and not think about it. However, for Architects, I just feel that these new songs are too safe and too predictable, compared to the stuff they were writing a few albums back (pre-2021). I would never expect them to write the same album over and over again and I want them to write the music they want to write but I just feel that as a band, they're capable of so much more than this.