Are we all Living in a Simulation?

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Science Unbound

Science Unbound

Күн бұрын

Is our reality just a simulation? Explore Nick Bostrom's simulation argument and the evidence for and against it. Elon Musk and Neil DeGrasse Tyson weigh in. The truth may surprise you.

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@wilhelmusrobben9953
@wilhelmusrobben9953 Жыл бұрын
Why did they have to simulate my lower back pain?😢
@kevotnta
@kevotnta Жыл бұрын
😂 dude same!!😂
@Stephen_Jabs
@Stephen_Jabs Жыл бұрын
All should be simulated to make it real including your hunger, tiredness and your backpain
@sd8213
@sd8213 Жыл бұрын
You would question it further without it
@averynacho8038
@averynacho8038 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@meelooxavier6502
@meelooxavier6502 11 ай бұрын
It's just a very common bug that almost everyone has, but it's so low prio that it might never get solved
@xabih2946
@xabih2946 Жыл бұрын
"Either we are first or last" only works if each civilization only creates one simulation.
@floridanews8786
@floridanews8786 Жыл бұрын
Big brain 🧠
@facetubetwit1444
@facetubetwit1444 Жыл бұрын
we also could be some sorta side effect or glitch in the simulation, a bug yet to be worked out of existence.
@jili4214
@jili4214 Жыл бұрын
It's like a movie character saying they're not in a movie because they can't see the rolling credits
@andyTONYpandy
@andyTONYpandy Жыл бұрын
As I see it, this whole 1 in x universes is a logical fallacy anyway. It assumes that every universe is equally possible but if you have 1 universe with 3 universes inside and 1 universe with 100 universes do you still have a 50/50 chance of being in each of the bigger universes. What if the number of individual consciousnesses is the same shared out across the universes? To me it's like saying; I'm in a house so I have a 1 in 25 million chance of being in my house cos I live in the UK until you invent the concept of countries and then just be virtue of their possible existence I am less likely to be in my house. It's bad logic.
@foxdoe7540
@foxdoe7540 Жыл бұрын
Maybe we're species 3789 of simulation 283
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat Жыл бұрын
Simon needs to do an episode where he explains all his KZbin clones...I think he's up to 22 now 😂
@theziggurat869
@theziggurat869 Жыл бұрын
he has a new channel like every other month
@zanemiller3307
@zanemiller3307 Жыл бұрын
I thought he only had 12?! There are more?
@danielpierce305
@danielpierce305 Жыл бұрын
​@R P I mean...correct me if I'm wrong but they're all doing relatively well right? He's clearly making money, he can afford an entire production team for multiple channels. How does it reek of desperation?
@thejman3489
@thejman3489 Жыл бұрын
This video was recommended to me under a different video I watched. I watched a few other videos first then went through like 8 of his channels looking for this video. I didn't find it and had to use the search bar and try to remember the name of the video as best as I could.
@kevinthurlow5487
@kevinthurlow5487 Жыл бұрын
Sooo happy I got in on the ground floor... Are they ALL bald ?
@wendyrichards7458
@wendyrichards7458 Жыл бұрын
Personally i'd find being a simulation something of a relief ,if i'm just a pawn (For want of a better word ) being shoved about for someone else's edification, then i'm both serving a purpose while actually not mattering very much .An idea I find both mildly validating and oddly relaxing .My only real problem with the whole concept is why ? Whoever is running me (And an awful lot of other people ) must be insanely bored by my not very interesting existence .I find it incredibly hard to believe that there's any element of entertainment involved .Maybe we are part of some history class program being studied by a lot of unwilling teenagers .If so then i'm really sorry kids .
@westrim
@westrim Жыл бұрын
We're all just extra bits to flesh out the background of whatever is really important. Like sims and cars in Simcity.
@netgnostic1627
@netgnostic1627 Жыл бұрын
​@@westrim yup, I'm a NPC.
@pakde8002
@pakde8002 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to be part of a simulation to accept the possibility that you're just a pawn and don't matter very much. It's the false notion that we have to make something out of our lives or have a destiny that makes so many people unhappy. All we're here for is to reproduce and die like everything else that is alive. Just try to enjoy the ride because it doesn't last that long.
@facetubetwit1444
@facetubetwit1444 Жыл бұрын
@@netgnostic1627 welp im a NPC to the NPCs.
@djurdanlievens8702
@djurdanlievens8702 Жыл бұрын
Well maybe our creators are so far evolved that they have reached immortality, which if you think about it, would make life really boring. Watch the last episode of the last season of Alice in Borderland. It really makes sense there, my english is too bad 😂
@BorderlineBinge
@BorderlineBinge Жыл бұрын
I could have sworn this video came out months ago. Am I experiencing a glitch in the matrix right now? Did Simon not cover simulation theory like 3 months ago? Edit: ah, it was like a year ago on Decoding the Unknown. Simon, your infinite channels just made me question my reality.
@LOKIinc666
@LOKIinc666 Жыл бұрын
Same !!
@marcbeebee6969
@marcbeebee6969 Жыл бұрын
😂
@NickDBaker
@NickDBaker Жыл бұрын
Facts
@dustonc1
@dustonc1 Жыл бұрын
reality is just Simons all the way down...
@feanacar
@feanacar Жыл бұрын
I’ve lived in existential distress for years. 😢
@YoungGandalf2325
@YoungGandalf2325 Жыл бұрын
I pray to whoever is running the simulation, please do not shut it off. Also, I would like a pizza to magically appear in front of me right now. 🍕
@floridanews8786
@floridanews8786 Жыл бұрын
😂 more like pls shut off this miserable simulation.
@jaredevildog6343
@jaredevildog6343 Жыл бұрын
You better specify..... you'll probably get anchovies.
@themurmeli88
@themurmeli88 Жыл бұрын
Consider, that only when its turned off, will you have chance for reality. And what if in reality, you are in fact everything you ever dreamed off, and this is just a challenge mode you wanted to try out, where you are the least version of yourself that you could be without going insane?
@Confron7a7ion7
@Confron7a7ion7 Жыл бұрын
Praying seems appropriate since simulation theory is basically just God all over again.
@henrikbergman4055
@henrikbergman4055 Жыл бұрын
​@@Confron7a7ion7 But criticizing a simulation creator is not blasphemous.
@godisanarc8727
@godisanarc8727 Жыл бұрын
The double slit experiment yields a bit of proof to the simulation theory as well
@Confron7a7ion7
@Confron7a7ion7 Жыл бұрын
Only if you accept that something we don't understand must be a bug in the simulation. Which is basically the same as saying God did it or it's magic.
@KovesVids
@KovesVids Жыл бұрын
Speed of light : I'm proof life is a simulation. Quantum Entanglement : Hold my beer.
@themurmeli88
@themurmeli88 Жыл бұрын
Not only that, the universe itself expands faster than speed of light. These "philosophers" really should read some actual science papers ffs...
@Trey5S5S
@Trey5S5S Жыл бұрын
@@themurmeli88 Well, yes and no. It only technically expands "faster than light" from a relative distance. Space is expanding at a constant rate everywhere at once, but at any given point in space, that same rate of expansion pushing things away is, itself, being pushed away, so it looks to us as if everything is accelerating away from us, when it's really just stacking. So nothing is technically moving faster than light, at least not on it's own.
@themurmeli88
@themurmeli88 Жыл бұрын
@@Trey5S5S Point being, it's a bad argument for "maximum processing speed" if this was a simulation. Not to mention, there is no way to tell if the "maximum speed" is limited by "performance" or if it's just an artificial cap.
@Trey5S5S
@Trey5S5S Жыл бұрын
@@themurmeli88 I mean, there's no real way to tell anything about this; it's just a thought experiment, but it's still fun to talk about. By "maximum processing speed", they could just mean the speed which it takes information to "process", and since space isn't information in and of itself, it doesn't have to be "processed" like everything else does.
@UsuwusushHaqauduususu
@UsuwusushHaqauduususu Жыл бұрын
​@@Trey5S5Scpu or something technology game lagging fps
@Sir_Uncle_Ned
@Sir_Uncle_Ned Жыл бұрын
If we are in a simulation, then we have already found spacial and temporal minimums defining the resolution, which are called the Planck units. Defining the absolute minimums of time, length, heat, and mass that are possible under known physics
@jackmaney4276
@jackmaney4276 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has done so-called machine learning professionally for over a decade, "[a simulation indistinguishable from our own reality] is clearly a long way off in the future" is an overwhelmingly vast understatement. Never underestimate the stupidity of computers.
@theblackspark2644
@theblackspark2644 Жыл бұрын
Good comment
@theprairietinkerer
@theprairietinkerer Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, and a coincidence too. I'm (trying) to get through The Game is Life by Terry Schott. The idea is that children go into a suspended state in a simulation and live a whole life in just a few months. However, as I've found out, it goes much deeper by simulations inside simulations. A very good read.
@spacingguild
@spacingguild Жыл бұрын
The lack of aliens is weird.
@facetubetwit1444
@facetubetwit1444 Жыл бұрын
not really, we like spiders if you see 1 you know there is more even if you cant hear or see em you know there has to be more.
@Eli_7508
@Eli_7508 7 ай бұрын
It's also weird that most of us share a lot of the same experiences.
@callo3
@callo3 Жыл бұрын
The trolley scenario is actually not far from the kind of decisions that commanders in wars have to make. They have to make tough decisions where sometimes the outcome is going to likely end up with someone dying no matter what decision you make, but maybe one decision causes fewer deaths
@francisfischer7620
@francisfischer7620 9 ай бұрын
I really do appreciate how quickly you speak and how clearly you propose a concept. Most other speakers get pedantic before they get to the point. Thank you, Francis
@joegordon5117
@joegordon5117 Жыл бұрын
There's an interesting recent documentary film, A Glitch in the Matrix, which delves into this, including talking to some individuals who believe they are in a simulation (appropriately instead of seeing the person interviewed, we see a virtual avatar of them!), some of them had put a lot of thought into it -one concluded it was likely he was in a simulation, but since it still allowed him to live a life, he may as well just get on and enjoy that life. Pretty interesting documentary.
@SwampyColorado420
@SwampyColorado420 Жыл бұрын
I have degrees in engineering and physics and I just don't dwell too much on things humans will never know because it could be even crazier than you imagine, but we'll never know.
@kyran333
@kyran333 Жыл бұрын
We will because simulation theory is just better physics
@ThomasakaDes
@ThomasakaDes Жыл бұрын
Or maybe that's just how the creator wants you to think 😉
@SwampyColorado420
@SwampyColorado420 Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasakaDes I believe we could have been created by higher beings, I'm not on board with any current religions though.
@selbalamir
@selbalamir Жыл бұрын
Simon is so ubiquitous he must definitely be a simulation
@kevinthurlow5487
@kevinthurlow5487 Жыл бұрын
While the probability of that is never going to be absolute zero I can remember a time before KZbin and a time before Simon Whistler song gonna have to call b******* on that 1
@myflippinggoodness8821
@myflippinggoodness8821 Жыл бұрын
Simon is ubiquitous! U-B-I-QUIT-O-U-S! 🎶🕺
@efarnsworth41
@efarnsworth41 Жыл бұрын
You can't tell me chic fil a employees aren't NPCs.
@KamikazeKatze666
@KamikazeKatze666 Жыл бұрын
I have a sneaking suspicion that the vast majority of people we see every day are NPCs.
@aquillawhingate3248
@aquillawhingate3248 Жыл бұрын
Although briefly stated I find the idea of Simulation interesting when considering subatomic particles; specifically example being the double slit experiment as to whether it is a particle or a wave, and the observers effect.
@cc-dtv
@cc-dtv Жыл бұрын
"no slimey rebirth for you" why do i feel like i will see this exact scene, simon and all, when i die...
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um Жыл бұрын
"The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth." -- Morpheus
@ironknightzero
@ironknightzero Жыл бұрын
Great movie
@twosometwosome3698
@twosometwosome3698 Жыл бұрын
Computer simoulation is one of the best explanations for the crazy behavior of the double slit experiment.
@ballHand
@ballHand Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Kind of reminds me of the boltzmann brain theory. Make that video next
@Video-Game-OST-HQ
@Video-Game-OST-HQ Жыл бұрын
To shoot down the idea that the speed of light indicates a maximum simulator processor speed: I am an R&D video-game programmer. I make game engines for a living. I was a senior graphics programmer on the Luminous Studio Engine at Square Enix for Final Fantasy XV. There doesn’t need to be a universal maximum speed tied to the simulating computer’s processing speed because the simulation wouldn’t be real-time. Meaning that while the computer works on a single update, nothing inside the simulation perceives time as passing. All things in the simulation would be paused until the update finishes, and then the next update would begin with each object paused until the update finishes, repeat. The computer can have as long as it wants to finish an update, so saying that the speed of light indicates some other-worldly computer’s processor speed really has no meaning at all. If the universe just suddenly stops right now, we would have no idea. We would never be aware of the time gap between when it stops and resumes. Every second, the universe could be paused 1,000,000,000 times while some little machine goes around and adjusts every atom or subatomic particle, and we would have no idea this was happening, even if this updating process took trillions of years per single update.
@Edramon53
@Edramon53 Жыл бұрын
Most of the arguments against simulation only apply if we're an ancestor simulation and our world is anything like the world that is simulating us. Though most of the arguments FOR simulation are that we would sim ourselves for various reasons, so it balances out I guess. But we could as easily be someone's equivalent of The Sims or Dwarf Fortress with only a rudimentary physics compared to them.
@JS-wp4gs
@JS-wp4gs Жыл бұрын
Look on the bright side, its better than being someones version of rimworld....though that might explain a few things about hitler and stalin
@jonathanspaulding3771
@jonathanspaulding3771 Жыл бұрын
Love this format, great editor
@mat1988ize
@mat1988ize Жыл бұрын
Aspen Cho the editing was perfect 👌
@killy99ln
@killy99ln Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the music or where do you get it from?
@Khaymen94
@Khaymen94 Жыл бұрын
worrying about whether we're in a sim or not seems like a waste of time. im more concerned with wether i should be entertaining enough to get plot armor or dull enough to be a nameless npc and therefore less likely to be on the chopping block at all
@nerthailabs
@nerthailabs Жыл бұрын
Me at 1:29 "Jokes on you, I have an existential crisis every day."
@boscovisionbottomtext2658
@boscovisionbottomtext2658 Жыл бұрын
I never got why everyone assumes that the simulation is based on the real world in the past. For all we know, the real Earth could be cube shaped and the programmers are five dimensional squids. It's not like every video game we made was an accurate replica of Earth in the past.
@tektrixter
@tektrixter Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Is is much more likely that a simulation will be simplified to run on the hardware used. We often reduce things from three dimensions down to two or simulate fewer particles to get a feel for how a fluid/gas will interact.
@fafski1199
@fafski1199 Жыл бұрын
True, we could very easily just be living in a fantasy simulation/game conceived by some super intelligent squid like aliens. Let's face it, many people currently play video games where the avatar and game characters are anything but human, that is set in a world that greatly differs and don't fully mirror or represent our own real world. Sometimes those worlds can break the laws of physics, have different technology than our own or playout in a completely made up fictional timeline. Yes, they often share a few simularity's with our own world, however they don't actually aim to represent or to carbon copy our own world or our own real life's. Yes, the simulation could be a fairly accurate representation of the past history of that particular species. However it's far more likely, going by the shear amount and the popularity of fantasy world's in video games, to just be a completely fictional made-up world, with only a few elements within that world that is shared with the real world. We all very easily, could be just either an avatar or a NPC, playing a role in a generated fantasy world. It could simply have been designed by an alien lifeform, purely as a form of entertainment, just like video games, are for us. It doesn't necessarily have to be a simulation, that's designed for the purpose to gain knowledge or some form of insight.
@PetrSojnek
@PetrSojnek Жыл бұрын
The argument for simulation theory I heard which is a bit more compelling than speed of light. When we get to subatomic levels, kvantum theory actually resembles optimization processes a little bit. In a way we don't know what's happening with some particles unless we directly query it. This is how optimization can work... basically "what you can't see, we can "fudge" as long as approximation is good enough".
@theprogram863
@theprogram863 Жыл бұрын
I meant to post this when Simon did this on Decoding the Unknown. Processor speed is entirely independent of the in-universe flow of time, because just as Simon correctly points out that the simulation could be run at 10x speed, it could also be run at 1/10x speed. Speeds could even be variable. The system might bog down under the weight of its data, and we wouldn't know because our minds and anything we could use as a clock would be speeding up or slowing down along with the rest of the universe and the processor it runs on. So the fact that the speed of light in our universe is constant neither supports nor undermines the simulation hypothesis. The one case where this wouldn't be the case is a Matrix-type simulation, where at least some observers exist in the higher reality and plug in to our simulation from there. Their minds would run independently of the simulation and _would_ perceive changes in the rate of passage of time (and, perhaps, therefore force the developers to build a system that ran at a fixed clock rate). The other question is that of what is being simulated. Is our consciousness the object of the simulation, and so the physical world only exists to fuel our perceptions? Or is the physical world the point of the simulation, in which case our consciousness might well be an unintended byproduct, buried unnoticed on a rock circling one star among hundreds of billions in the galaxy, itself lost among trillions of simulated galaxies... galaxies which exist for some higher purpose that has little or nothing to do with us. BTW, that latter case is a counter to the first-or-last argument, which assumes that we humans are central to the simulation's purpose.
@SenorSchnitz
@SenorSchnitz Жыл бұрын
The argument "barrier because of not enough CPU power" makes no sense for a simulation not running in real time.
@jackmaney4276
@jackmaney4276 Жыл бұрын
4:49 "given enough time..." That's the thing, though: we don't have infinite time. Assuming we don't nuke ourselves into oblivion, we only have about a billion years before multicellular life can no longer exist on this planet. I'm honestly skeptical that we could create a planet-sized supercomputer in that amount of time.
@garycarter5031
@garycarter5031 Жыл бұрын
I think my dad's theory was best. He said "we are just a molecule on a table." Never could disprove it or confirm it.
@themurmeli88
@themurmeli88 Жыл бұрын
You can. The laws of physics "change" based on how large or small something is. Scale is not actually just a matter of perspective, it is also an absolute property.
@JS-wp4gs
@JS-wp4gs Жыл бұрын
@@themurmeli88 No they don't. They don't literally by definition, thats what the laws of physics are
@themurmeli88
@themurmeli88 Жыл бұрын
@@JS-wp4gs That's why I put the change in quotes. Quantum mechanics are a thing for a reason.
@reddragon7762
@reddragon7762 Жыл бұрын
The speed of light also varies. Changes in different mediums. Even in a vacuum as space, the light that reaches us has been manipulated already by gravity, cosmic lights, radiations, ect ect ect. Our speed of light calculations could be wrong too. As formulas based on others that are even minutely wrong, are more off target exponentially.
@Robbo-mx8nn
@Robbo-mx8nn Жыл бұрын
Dunking on Madden in a Simon Whistler video is gonna be the highlight of my week
@jflaugher
@jflaugher Жыл бұрын
It's a mistake to assume that such a simulation would be an ancestor simulation. It's also a mistake to assume that such a simulation would take place within a super computer. If the universe is a simulation, it could be a simulation similar to the Sims - where each person is an avatar for a conscious being who exists in the world beyond our simulated universe. And while a super computer of some kind might house the physical laws and provide the information for the simulation, the simulation itself could be taking place within the minds of the conscious beings who exist in the world outside the simulation. Thus the simulation might be dependent upon technology that are in their infancy in our universe. Namely, super-computers and neural interfacing. The minds of living beings, through neural interfacing, could provide the memory and processing power necessary for such a super-computer. I think it makes more sense for such a simulation to be an educational simulation in which the memories of those participating in the simulation are blocked so they fully identify with their avatars. When the avatar dies in the simulation, the player (for lack of a better word), moves on to play another avatar until they learn all they need from the simulation. The question remains: What are we supposed to be learning in this educational simulation? We're supposed to be learning how to love and respect each other and our world as a whole. We're supposed to be learning how to be compassionate, to practice justice (balance/fairness) in our society, and to care for the ecosystems we're dependent upon. All of these attributes are necessary for the survival of any civilization, especially a super-technologically advanced civilization. Any civilization that doesn't embrace these attributes is in danger of destroying itself. The simulation hypothesis also might explain the Fermi Paradox and why we haven't found any aliens yet. Either they're not necessary to the simulation; or, if we treat our existence as if it's akin to a computer game in which we must learn to care for one another and the planet while advancing our civilization to a level 1 civilization on the Kardashev scale, then we win the game and we can advance to the next level where alien civilizations will become known to us. Of course, this requires a reworking of the Kardashev scale to not only include advancements in technology but also an advancement in organizing our civilization to a more compassionate and just civilization where everyone has what they need and poverty and exploitation have become things of the past; a civilization where everyone works for the betterment of themselves and society at large; a civilization in which willful ignorance and bigotry have been overcome. We essentially need to build a unified world civilization similar to the way Earth is described in Star Trek.
@scipio7
@scipio7 Жыл бұрын
"Fuck around and find out" is an excellent description of the scientific method.
@jpdominator
@jpdominator Жыл бұрын
How many channels do you have?
@patrickwilkerson1728
@patrickwilkerson1728 Жыл бұрын
Based on HP Lovecraft cosmic horror novels of Cthulhu, we are living in a dream of a monster, if we were to allow to wake up that would end everything, hehe.
@Shauma_llama
@Shauma_llama Жыл бұрын
The fact that Elon backs the idea is the best argument against it. 😆
@derphysiker1062
@derphysiker1062 Жыл бұрын
Just to add some more counterarguments to the ancestor simulation (i.e. a simulation of a civilisation's own past): 1. If the speed of light is purely an artefact of the computationspeed, any simulated civilisation that eveloped to the point, that it can measure, use and abuse the speed of light would diverge from the simulators own history. Thus making the ancestor simulation pointless. 2. If there is a base reality with no limit to the speed of light, a civilisation in this reality could not evelop electronic devices (such as computers or quantum computers) to our understanding. Afterall, from nuclear fusion to quantum mechanics, electro dynamics to general theory of relativity, everything depends on the existence of this speed limit. A simulation in which a finite speed of light exists, therefore cannot be an ancestor simulation of said base reality as it would not simulate that reality. 3. To generate any meaningfull results for the base reality entities, the simulated time must proceed much faster than the base reality time. If a simulated civilisation evelopes to the point, where it creates its own ancestor simulation, the time within the new iteration mus proceed much faster than in the previous one. However, as all iterations run physically on the base reality computer, this puts a limit on how fast the iterations can become. Furthermore, if N_0 is the number of operations the base reality computer can compute per unit time, the number of operations N_i of any simulated computer per base reality unit time must be much smaller than N_0. Thus, there must either be a limit on how many iterations can be simulated or the time within the simulations have to be to slowed down (and eventually become slower as the base reality time, to the point, were the simulation is probably shutted down, as it is not longer usefull to the base reality entities.)
@DemonEyes23
@DemonEyes23 Жыл бұрын
they be mutually exclusive but I don't see any reason why any of the three has to be true
@Confron7a7ion7
@Confron7a7ion7 Жыл бұрын
They don't. The whole thing is just a science fiction twist on God.
@markyread
@markyread Жыл бұрын
How else would you explain the duck-billed platypus other than the result of a "bring your daughter to work day" at whatever company designed our world.
@dustonc1
@dustonc1 Жыл бұрын
the intro was fantastic!
@bancelutters8654
@bancelutters8654 Жыл бұрын
One of the problems I have with this theory is that an exact simulation of our own universe would need a computer that is able to simulate the state of everything that exists in our universe. And to be able to do that the computer would need some way to store those states. And as far as I understand it you would practically need everything our universe has to offer to be able to do that. So If we want to exist while this simulation is running, the simulated universe would have to be smaller than our own universe. And if you go along with that then at some point a universe would only consist of one bit of information. If simulating a smaller universe counts than I would say that we are already there. But even if our universe is one of those simulations it would still have to be unique in some way and as Simon said we still do experience life which is special on its own so I don't think the answer to the question has any relevance in deciding how to live our lifes.
@JaredLS10
@JaredLS10 Жыл бұрын
That subtle jab at Madden was perfect.
@tyler2827
@tyler2827 Жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget about the double-slit experiment.
@ilajoie3
@ilajoie3 Жыл бұрын
I'm with Simon on this, even if we are a simulation it's not like we can interact with the levels above us
@e3daiceman
@e3daiceman Жыл бұрын
I never thought the trolley problem was a problem. I want to figure out a way I can hit them all.
@raymondgilbert1341
@raymondgilbert1341 Жыл бұрын
Any Simon channel is entertaining but this is by far my favorite.
@Tiggermk4
@Tiggermk4 Жыл бұрын
Personally, i think the weird behaviour of photons & electrons (e.g. interference/ slit experiment/observer effect) could be down to shoddy programming of the simulation we live in. That said, why should it be an “ancestor” simulation. The universe could just be a very long simulation created by someone for a purpose unconnected to humanity, and we’ve evolved within that.
@Mirality
@Mirality Жыл бұрын
It's not shoddy programming, it's efficiency. If nothing is looking directly at it, it just runs in low-res with statistical probability to save processing resources. But when observed, it switches to high-res to obtain a more precise answer.
@Doskious
@Doskious Жыл бұрын
There's a very real problem with the premise on which the theory is founded: that it is feasible to both build a perfect simulation of a system within that system to an arbitrarily exacting level of fidelity, and that doing so, and nesting the hypothesized results, will be possible. Suppose that the Universe in its totality is a simulation, and that simulation, without loss of fidelity to its parent universe, takes some energy to simulate. It follows that the sum total of the energy used to simulate the Universe is less than the sum total of energy necessary to run the Universe outside the simulation. This results in two logical flaws each of which would be sufficient for a mathematical Proof-by-Contradiction: (1) As the sums of energy required to run the outer Universe and the inner Universe are necessarily different, the fidelity we assumed was possible is demonstrably not possible. (2) The domains of execution are nested, which means that all of the energy required to run the inner Universe must be less than or equal to the sum of energy required to run the outer Universe, but in the case of equivalence, the outer Universe effectively ceases to exist as all of its energy would be running the inner Universe, which would remain as the only Universe meaningfully extant, thereby violating the assumption that there can be nested simulations. Now, that's all said under the assumption that there are no accessible domains in which we (or other residents of our Universe's space/time curvature) could deploy a nested-universe scheme, in which the laws pertaining to the conservation of energy fail to pertain. If you can throw out the Law of Conservation of Energy and the Laws of Thermodynamics, then gee, yeah, nearly anything would be possible, but there's no evidence that we can reach any such domains of space/time, so the whole thing collapses into implausibility, really. Love the video, though.
@robertcain7630
@robertcain7630 Жыл бұрын
“I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content.” ― Robert E. Howard, Queen of the Black Coast
@QBCPerdition
@QBCPerdition Жыл бұрын
A few points. 1. There is more "evidence" than just the speed of light. A simulation would also have a resolution limit, and ours does: the Planck length. Things don't actually move smoothly through the universe, they actually jump from one Planck length to the next. Similarly, there is Planck time, time does not run smoothly either, it jumps from one Planck time to the next. 2. Just because it would take more atoms than exist in our universe to run a simulation of our universe, that does not matter. If we wanted to run a simulation of a universe, we would just have to be constrained by available resources, meaning our simulated universe would be smaller or simpler. The universe that created our simulation would therefore, just be larger and more complex than ours is. There is also "evidence" for this in that our universe does not seem to be infinite, but is finite in size. Ultimately, it does not matter if we are in a simulation or not, we can only accept the reality of the universe as presented to us. Indeed, we only experience a vanishingly small range of the universe, from the tiny bands of visible light, to not seeing tiny things or even the vast majority of the universe. So even if we assume we are in base reality, we're still only seeing that reality as simulated and processed by our brains. Hell, we can't even be sure everyone sees a color or hears a sound the same way as anyone else. So don't worry about it.
@Iamthelolrus
@Iamthelolrus Жыл бұрын
Planck length and time are starting to look like pixels and clock speed...
@robd9413
@robd9413 Жыл бұрын
And in a separate post (since the first one rambled a bit) is the sage guidance of the late, great Sir Terry Pratchett, "The Discworld operated on the edge of reality, but no-one tried to prove it wasn't real in case they woke up one morning and found out they were right."
@mattball420
@mattball420 Жыл бұрын
Ive always thought that 1 reason that gravity increases and time slows near massive objects is due to the cpu struggling to render everything in detail
@jamesglidden4578
@jamesglidden4578 Жыл бұрын
They don't need to create an entire universe, all they have to do is limit the tech in a simulation and only create a single ai with the rest being programs. Then once you do that it's much more likely to have a big enough computer
@themurmeli88
@themurmeli88 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to do even that. You just need to stimulate the brain to think that things are happening. E.g. you don't need to create a simulated rubber ball and calculate all the physics for it order to make the brain believe that those things "are happening".
@BartOppeel
@BartOppeel 3 ай бұрын
I have a massive list of bugs and glitches in this simulation, is there a support number or email ?
@ste4504
@ste4504 Жыл бұрын
How did you manage not to mention the 'double slit' experiment? It fits in with simulation theory perfectly.
@ThatWriterKevin
@ThatWriterKevin Жыл бұрын
...how?
@atariduckman
@atariduckman Жыл бұрын
You could even add another layer to the theory. What if humans are not the main characters inside of the simulation and another civilisation created the next simulation inside of a simulation. 🤯
@moochieone1
@moochieone1 Жыл бұрын
From a philosophical standpoint, the basis of a simulated reality simply goes all the way back to Platonic philosophy. To quote from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (just to have a bibliographical reference point), "Platonism is the view that there exist such things as abstract objects - where an abstract object is an object that does not exist in space or time and which is therefore entirely non-physical and non-mental." If we are truly a simulation (taken from an interpretation of this philosophy), and our individual thoughts and decisions are really abstract and do not affect the non-physical and non-mental, then one conclusion would mean that any and all decisions that we make only impact the "simulation" and not the "reality". Therefore, we could theorize, that in our reality today where primary school shootings are becoming more common, the answer to the issue is that it really doesn't matter from a moral standpoint in our "lives", because there could be a reality outside of ours and we are never certain whether our individual actions are being monitored and acted upon. So we could conclude that even though our actions that we make in this "reality" make us "meaningful", the reality is that we can never know if our lives and our actions actually make a difference. It is one of the pessimistic conclusions I came to while studying Platonic philosophy.
@kyleb4059
@kyleb4059 Жыл бұрын
I can see this becoming a religion, if it isn’t already. All hail the great programmer from beyond!
@Confron7a7ion7
@Confron7a7ion7 Жыл бұрын
It's basically already just a science fiction twist on God. It explains the unexplained, can't be disproven, and assumes there's a creator. It's just God all over again.
@jw325
@jw325 Жыл бұрын
I just hope if we are in a simulation that when my program ends its deleted and not started over again, one go at this enough for me
@Dank-gb6jn
@Dank-gb6jn Жыл бұрын
Careful: Elon gets word of this, he and a bunch of other moderately situated individuals will write a letter and complain.
@nunyobidness2358
@nunyobidness2358 Жыл бұрын
Before I pull the switch do I have time to determine the people's races, religions and nationalities?
@MyPisceanNature
@MyPisceanNature Жыл бұрын
I am curious about the Venn diagram for people whose favorite video game is Madden and people who watch Simon Whistler's channels.
@light-master
@light-master Жыл бұрын
The issue with the real world creating a simulation that creates a simulation, etc, is that we do not have a very high chance of being a simulation. We do not yet have the capability of creating an Ancestor Simulation, therefore we have to be either in the real world, or the very last simulation. That gives us a 50/50 chance of being in the real world since there are only 2 possibilities. It's not particularly great odds of us being real, but it's a far cry from basically guarenteeing that we are a simulation. Maybe I should watch all the video first, lol. I see now that he covers this issue.
@mikezAlright
@mikezAlright Жыл бұрын
Bro I had a deja vu moment at 14:04, my mind melted 😂
@emerys4456
@emerys4456 Жыл бұрын
the funny thing is thinking about it from the point of view from far left field... we wouldnt need to simulate the entire universe, in all actuality all that would need to be simulated in order for the simulation theory to be even remotely plausible is to simulate what each individual person can see/what they can have access to seeing, so on that front if one was to simulate any given persons life they would need to observe what they do on a daily/weekly/monthly/yearly basis even down to the minute and then take it to what they can see/hear/taste/touch, and from there put it into code and theres that persons simulation if they have access to a microscope code that same with a telescope as to what the telescope can see well as a person we cant see whats in space for our selves so what happens we take the word of professionals that work at like the hubble and nasa... so all in all its all thoretically plausible but at the same time if it was a simulation how is it still going? what is the power source as it would need to be huge? so many questions not enough answers... I feel as was said its compelling but ultimately too many questions and a lot of unverifiable variables
@JNB0723
@JNB0723 11 ай бұрын
This is one that I feel is not touched on more that I think is becoming more and more realistic the more we think about it.
@rodsprague369
@rodsprague369 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the idea that we are a simulation within nested simulations is that any failure along the chain of simulations would end the subsequent simulations in that chain. Base reality is the strongest link, so this is most likely base reality and not a simulation that could be ended by the failure of a simulator or the grad student shutting us down after they get their PhD for making the simulation in the first place. If a simulation keeps going after said shutdown, would that imply a good enough simulation is a reality in its own right? The one thing that does make me think there is a slight possibility of us being simulated is the collapse of a wave form when the conscious observer looks at the individual particle in that waveform; that the waveform is the generalized simulation and the simulation focuses into a particle because the particle takes more computational power that is used only when consciousness is actually looking at the central particle.
@facetubetwit1444
@facetubetwit1444 Жыл бұрын
it doesn't have to be a conscious observer its more when particles interact with each other which is happening all the time, this whole its a particle and a wave until its observed just means its is what it is until it interacts with anything. not just some scientist measuring it. the fact we have a whole universe around us tells us this is happening all the time from the fist milli second of the universe up until now and all the way into the future until what ever the end is.
@randomyoutubeaccount6906
@randomyoutubeaccount6906 Жыл бұрын
also each simulation layer likely has lower limits like a slower speed of light and larger smallest point meaning each layer up in the simulation would have an easier time creating simulations beneath it. meaning it doesn't technically have to be possible in our universe, the theory lets our universe be any level of complexity compared to the base reality. Idk what i'm talking about
@slumpmachinegaming
@slumpmachinegaming 10 ай бұрын
My man quoted Ricky Bobby....i love you simon lol
@jeremyborder6794
@jeremyborder6794 Жыл бұрын
I occasionally get a sense of unreality, like something’s not right. It could be unconscious awareness of the simulation or just a nonsense feeling produced by my broken brain
@thekeytoairpower
@thekeytoairpower Жыл бұрын
I read the blue text at the beginning of this as Sim On.
@littledrummer6969
@littledrummer6969 Жыл бұрын
never understood the morality of the trolley thing. of course you pull the lever regardless. its the right thing to do. 1 in stead of multiple ...
@matthewwonks2534
@matthewwonks2534 Жыл бұрын
That Madden insult was outstanding. I applaud this team.
@hunter4229
@hunter4229 Жыл бұрын
Damn, it’s the first time I’ve heard the first or last argument.
@CobraElDiablo
@CobraElDiablo Жыл бұрын
Trolley problem solution: De rail it, you know when it's on the points, change them.
@bigjohn1253
@bigjohn1253 9 ай бұрын
All I think of is rick and morty as I watch this video lol
@JWitmyer
@JWitmyer Жыл бұрын
I always wonder why we have diarrhea and explosive farts,bad teeth, and cancer. Like what is the simulation trying to prove with my grandma's bad breath? I guess without bad breath I wouldn't be here commenting. Although I'd posit a theory that if no one reads a comment then it didnt happen at all.
@TauGDS
@TauGDS Жыл бұрын
It's not actually a certainty that technology will eventually be able to simulate reality. the reason for this is that reality is infinite, but any system we create will be finite, and that's something that is just mathematically impossible to overcome
@TauGDS
@TauGDS Жыл бұрын
you'll note that this is a theory founded on computation that is made by philosophers not computer scientists
@agw5425
@agw5425 Жыл бұрын
If we are simulated by a "computer" it stands to reason that a further level "down" simulation created by us would tax the primary system/simulator twice as much and every step on such a ladder would do the same if complexity remains equal. Therefore only one level of "simulation" would be likely as nobody builds a computer several times more capable than you imagine you need it to be for the purpose you intend. This would suggest that either we can't build a simulator at that level or if we do we "crash" the whole system rendering our reality destroyed or atleast hard reseted, neither a verry appealing prospect. So if any one are thinking about creating a simulation do keep it as limited as possible will ya.
@camwyn256
@camwyn256 Жыл бұрын
After studying all the evidence and after careful consideration, I've determined the answer to be a resounding . . . . . Maybe
@jaybomb5022
@jaybomb5022 Жыл бұрын
Quantum locked particles react instantly despite their distance. Is that a glitch in the matrix or the existential processor clock speed?
@southcoastinventors6583
@southcoastinventors6583 Жыл бұрын
Energy requirements of all that those nested universes must be high better turn them off now to save power.
@The-Vigilante-and-the-Fox
@The-Vigilante-and-the-Fox 7 ай бұрын
we've made our own simulation well enough that it's not as big as the one we live in, but the simulation we've made is called the sims, so the fact that we didn't make one doesn't fit, even though it requires thinking away from the box
@MarvinTheParanDroid
@MarvinTheParanDroid Жыл бұрын
the argument by John Richard Gott is only true if every civilization only simulates one civilization. If every civilization instead simulates a million civilizations, we could be one of the last million instead of the last one.
@orioncrawford9618
@orioncrawford9618 11 ай бұрын
Who did it first here or the other Simon run channel
@Grizzdrop
@Grizzdrop Жыл бұрын
did you hear about the chatAI driven village characters yet? my guess is this was written before that announcement as that was not brought up at all and it was like the lowest level of a simulator as described here.
@brendakrieger7000
@brendakrieger7000 Жыл бұрын
No I haven't
@setukraymondgregoire7566
@setukraymondgregoire7566 Жыл бұрын
What speed is light attempting to escape a black hole going.
@BrDGifford
@BrDGifford 9 ай бұрын
Trick question, after studio, the voice from box asks if we are in a simulation.
@backupintheday9710
@backupintheday9710 Жыл бұрын
It's possible for sure.. But it's frequency based.
@ayjay579
@ayjay579 10 ай бұрын
Simulating all energy would require us to use all energy in the universe dedicated to computing it. And that’s only if we have a perfect output without any wasted energy. A 1:1 ratio of energy used to energy simulated means we could never simulate the entire universe all the way down to the subatomic level. Of course we could still be in a simulation made in a universe that is much larger than our own. But we could never create a simulation to put ourselves into that perfectly simulates our universe.
@paulname5483
@paulname5483 Жыл бұрын
Well that made my brain think hurt. I guess we are in a simulation since Simon seems to be the only person on KZbin. “Hi I’m Simon Whistler. You might recognize me from such great classics like Today I Found Out, the Top Tenz, or Business Blaze.”
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