Are you Brave Enough? Black Bear Pass vs Stock LONG BED Toyota Tacoma | Will it Conquer?

[@mike6497253]

Great spotting! Great driving! You both did it and I'm sure you'll be talking about this adventure for the rest of your lives!

[@legendarytrails]

Truth! It was one of those adventures that will be told for years to come.

[@edwardjenner1381]

Good spotting. The tires scared the heck out of me though, no way I could have driven that. I think I've seen a video of a Gladiator on street tires having similar trouble. My favorite part 'you can go forward' 'Yes, but I don't want to' Kind of sums up the trail.

[@legendarytrails]

Yeah, better tires would have helped a lot. We're hoping to wear out these ones and get better tires.

[@calvinvesco9883]

Did that trail last year in my stock 4Runner SR5. It was terrifying!

[@legendarytrails]

100% terrifying!

[@jasonvanpersie0010]

Great video! I’m looking into buying a Tacoma and videos like these are super helpful in determining just how capable a stock truck is. I’d definitely watch more of these.

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks! Tacoma's a pretty capable even though most of the time they are grocery getters, lol.

[@PeterRSCFF]

I just bought a 2017 TRD LB with a 3” lift, the e locker and 33” bfg ATs. I will skip this trail, thank you very much. Just in case you guys think nobody is listening to your warnings. I have just enough experience to know I don’t want anything to do with spongey off camber switchback drop offs. Not even on the nicest day of the year. Not with a long wheelbase anything.

[@ap-1994]

Great job guys!

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks!

[@Seancmccormick]

Just 10 thousand dollars in mods...LOL! That was amazing! Your team skill set shined on this trail. I think I'd have to take a hard pass on this one. Great job though! Epic views too! Atb Sean

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks! It was a tough one for sure. I would never want to do it again without better tires. It's views are amazing, but I think we aged 10 years that day, lol.

[@Doc1855]

My 23 TRD off road long bed double cab has the Premium and Technology pkgs. I use the front camera a LOT and I’m thankful that I have it.

[@legendarytrails]

Front camera is nice. This tacoma only has the automatic with the parking sensors for options.

[@sunilshrestha657]

Bravo! good job guies. I did upto the top of bridal veil falls on my stock GX and was not thinking to do the Black Bear Pass. Thank you for showing us the beautiful trail.

[@legendarytrails]

You're welcome 😉

[@im_caiman4479]

Liked, subscribed and thumbs up. Another great stock Tacoma video. Good job spotting and getting the shots Mrs. Legendary. Good job to Dane for getting through the pucker obstacles.

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks!

[@pablomoca]

Great video guys. I was nervous just watching this. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@legendarytrails]

It was a nerve-wracking experience for sure!

[@KennynSkipper]

Like your videos. You are definitely a good spotter! Your husband definitely needs to understand how close he is to things. He’s had plenty of rooms in several spots, “I know you try to tell him” but it is always good to be on the safe side I suppose. Love blackbear pass, but I have yet to do it myself.

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks! Sometimes spotting takes way more effort than people realize. To be fair to him, the sides are pretty loose and with a kid in the truck you want to be extra careful. Black bear is tricky in several places.

[@Lostsomewhereincolorado]

My long bed Tacoma can do it no problem I just have a 3 inch lift, bigger all terrain tires and rock sliders no steel bumpers or regear but having an experienced spotter is a must having a bad spotter can end your life on that trail.

[@legendarytrails]

A 3inch lift and bigger tires would have been very helpful! Stock this trail was definitely not a fun time.

[@Lostsomewhereincolorado]

@@legendarytrails yeah I would never do it in a stock vehicle especially with the stock tires, the weather changes so fast on that trail and if you have stock tires on that trail when it starts to downpour it can be disastrous! You guys definitely got lucky Mother Nature liked you that day since we have been getting hammered with rain every day in Colorado!

[@legendarytrails]

We're lucky we live close to this area and knew it was scheduled to be clear for a few days. Last time we did mineral creek it rained in the afternoon and knew we didn't want to be on black bear even with a 1% chance of rain.

[@Lostsomewhereincolorado]

@@legendarytrails smart choice! When I did it a while back it rained right as we got to the bottom which we got lucky with because it was a heavy thunderstorm

[@chobiden7770]

@@legendarytrails How much more difficult is Black bear pass compared to mineral creek?

[@bradparker9300]

Great job! I have the long bed 2021 OR for work and 2019 OR standard for fun with steel BA bumpers, lift and 33" AT tires. Been through every pass in that area and I'm still not brave enough to tackle black bear. After watching your video, I will never do it but like the option of going to the turn around two way point. Great video. Made me nervous just watching.

[@legendarytrails]

It was a crazy day when we ran this. I definitely wouldn't recommend a stock long bed doing black bear after doing this. We got lucky that everything went perfectly To do it again, I'd want a bigger, more aggressive tire. Nothing crazy, but it would help a lot.

[@H3minusH2]

We’ve been over Black Bear Pass in an H1…definitely a white knuckle trip! You did great, thanks for the video!

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks! It was definitely harder than expected. Glad we finally did it 💪

[@shawnbsci]

You did a good job. No doubt longer wheel base added to the challenge. Your truck would do extremely well in other off-road situations. If there was one vehicle that did everything well…everyone would have that vehicle. You guys are out there and actually off-roading and experiencing what nature has to offer. Job well done. Some rock sliders would add some peace of mind.

[@legendarytrails]

Long wheel base can make things a little tricky. The breakover angle isn't great and rock rails would have been nice to have. We love to get out and explore and have many adventures planned soon once the snow melts.

[@cuz129]

We have the same truck, one year newer, also long bed TRD offroad. Nice to know it's that capable. But I'm not doing that trail!!! Great content.

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks! It's incredible how far they can go!

[@gmercadomathinmaculada9580]

Hey. Great job. I was scared too!! Great spotter.

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks!

[@ehdeereotutar6843]

You are an amazing spotter! Great job

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks! It was hard to pick lines the tacoma could do. Being stock makes things 2x harder.

[@Cherokeelion]

Dane was over it all halfway down the steps 😂 cant say I blame him!

[@legendarytrails]

Yep. He was so done with how washed out it was. According to all the sources online, It should have been so easy a car can do it, lol.

[@stay_in_adventure]

When did you film this video? The mountains look so clear without the snow!

[@legendarytrails]

Right before it closed last year.

[@paul_t_kendall]

Nice! The stock longbed Tacoma is rocking the west.

[@legendarytrails]

Yes it is 😉

[@lakemi4665]

You did great spotting darlin

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks!

[@cuz129]

You better keep that girl. You'll never find another like her. I know because I've got the only other one!

[@legendarytrails]

Plan on keeping her a long time!

[@Reagansolum13]

I think the jeep being on 37's is part of what made it want to roll. i think Blackbear is one trail that lends itself to smaller tires over larger. stock Tacoma probably a bit too small. but 33's is probably closer to the sweet spot. you do not want massive tires raising you center of gravity when you're on a tippy trail.

[@legendarytrails]

33s do seem ro be the best option for this trail. Especially for a long bed 🌮

[@americapride]

Great job!

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks!

[@blcdad]

Good job spotting!

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks!

[@zoovthoj2177]

you guys do very good on the trail

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks! We've had a lot of practice over the years.

[@FullsendOffroad]

sucks that Colorado has been having a ton of snow lately. Last year I was going to go with my Toyota Land Cruiser but it really sucks that it was closed. and "I think our Tacoma identifies as a short wheelbase" 🤣🤣🤣 got me crackin.

[@legendarytrails]

🤣 definitely a "short" wheelbase

[@FullsendOffroad]

@@legendarytrails 🤣🤣🤣 at least it ain't a power wagon I don't know how those people even went on that.

[@legendarytrails]

@@FullsendOffroad right?! That was crazy!

[@FullsendOffroad]

@@legendarytrails i watched those videos in disbelief. I drove my Land Cruiser on the Alpine loop and after the peak on Corkscrew pass I couldn't see anything over the big nose.

[@DeanJohnson67]

Nice job!! ..... IMO no spotter can be better than one that has never spotted for extreme off camber + steep pitch especially if the driver just blindly does what they say... YT is full of evidence of this! I think you two made a good team! point being slow and methoical! This also assumes the driver knows their own vehicle really well and has good spacial recognition!

[@legendarytrails]

Thanks!

[@nerdgarage]

The two places on BBP that would kill me are the steps/ledges just above the turn at the waterfall at the top of the switchbacks, and the first (right turn) switchback after the waterfall. Everything else is meh. Those two places would be my downfall because while I don't give a crap about heights in and of themselves, I have serious issues with unprotected edges of any height. I keep going back and forth as to which of the two is worse. =)

[@legendarytrails]

The part above the waterfalls is pretty nasty. it was definitely the hardest part!

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

I don't think I would even walk on this trail. I am terrified of heights.

[@legendarytrails]

It is pretty terrifying in some spots.

[@kzookid545]

We went up to the base of the falls in our stock RAV4 Hybrid. Might take the 4Runner down it entirely.

[@legendarytrails]

4Runner with a shorter wheelbase than the tacoma would do well.

[@jocastil1968]

Are you available for spotting duty next month? You are an excellent spotter young lady!

[@legendarytrails]

Depends, lol. Always happy to get a spot for someone if we're on the trail at the same time 😉

[@GATORADDAM]

Nice video! I've come all the way from Florida 3 years in a row.. 2020, 2021 and 2022.. and did Black bear each time. First time in my stock 2019 Tacoma TRD offroad. Second and 3rd time it was lifted on 33s and way better suspension. First 2 times I did the steps in the pouring rain, by myself, no spotter. I'm not sure how you managed to tetter that much. I never lifted a wheel on this pass yet. Even stock. I might do it again next month while I'm out there. First, Moab and the White Rim trail, again!

[@legendarytrails]

Was yours a short bed? That might make all the difference with the tires lifting. The long bed makes it hard to get down some of the obstacles.

[@GATORADDAM]

@@legendarytrails It is a short bed.

[@rafaelgomez1284]

In the practice of serious mountaineering climbing, is a must to perform an exercise of the factors that affecting evaluations of riks and harzards. Do it efficiently or not, could translate in return to home safety or not. Technical factors as previous experience and serious training and, over all, common sense, are replaced by self overdimensioned appreciation of own experience, budget capacity, skills and optimal decisions-make. You can see this in Everest or in the off road trails in your country and mine. People, even with ingenuosness, assume that take a tour to and 8000 peak, or drive over highly exposed terrain, is a matter of hire an expedition company or buy a vehicle, that the salesman ensures to you, that can climb walls, deep mud or slippery snow without any problem. The core factor do not reside in the expensive items you can use or afford, fundamentally is about you and your capacity of handle internal and external factors. What is in play is not a KZbin or TikTok opportunity, is essentially about your life. But, in general, this is so difficult....

[@kennethwomack8678]

Did you use crawl control on the steps??

[@legendarytrails]

Nope, just the break pedal and locked in 1st. No locker or MTS.

[@blcdad]

I wonder who much better the Taco would have done if the sway bars were disconnected?

[@legendarytrails]

It might do a little better.

[@Lobo1604]

@@blcdad it would of been the same since all tires on this video were on contact with the road. Disconnected sway bar would make no difference

[@tg8150]

Let me almost drive off of the cliff when I had 20 feet to turn, then do a 6 point turn and not listen to my spotter. This dude is way too paranoid to be doing this trail. Also you might wanna put it in crawl mode my man.

[@kevindutton3676]

Camera doesn’t do offroad angles justice. Looks like nothing but I know it’s harrowing

[@legendarytrails]

It is! It's amazing how flat the camera makes things look.

[@bquade70]

Nope. You win. Lake Havasu 🌞 Az

[@legendarytrails]

Lol. Winner of the Crazy award 😆

[@bquade70]

@@legendarytrails lmao.... 👍👍. Keep up the great adventure!

[@Doc1855]

I wouldn’t do it with my 23 TRD Off Road Long Bed.

[@legendarytrails]

I probably wouldn't recommend doing this in a longer wheelbase in general. Almost tried it in our Ram 1500 a few years ago, but it rained so we changed our mind. It was ok one time, but if we do the pass again it would be in a short bed truck.

[@Doc1855]

@@legendarytrails That makes sense.

[@anonymous..-]

Subarus can cross this trail without drama.

[@legendarytrails]

Having a short wheelbase can make all the difference.

[@Chris-Pringle]

Why so many different tacomas.

[@legendarytrails]

We have a video that goes into that. One had a paint issue, and the dealer traded us for the trd or short bed. Thought we wanted a long bed, but missed the short bed, and then it got totaled.

[@stopcallingmeshirley]

Black Bear Pass is a bucket list accomplishment but it's really just mind over matter. There is no technically impossible section that a Subaru couldn't do with a reasonable level of experience

[@legendarytrails]

Apparently, you didn't watch some of the video. A subaru doesn't have the approach, breakover, or departure to do this trail. We had a subaru for several years, and it is definitely not able to complete parts of this trail - maybe with some trail damage and a missing oil pan 😉

[@stopcallingmeshirley]

@@legendarytrails it's not the vehicle, it's who's driving it

[@legendarytrails]

@@stopcallingmeshirley Not 100% true. Just because you're a good driver doesn't mean you can take a Honda accord where a jeep or truck can go. You can get further than you think, but the vehicle has limitations that even a great driver can't over come. We had a 2015 Subaru and took it several places most people wouldn't have, but talking stock Subaru to a stock Tacoma even with an amazing driver there is no comparison.

[@nerdgarage]

@@legendarytrails @stopcallingmeshirley I would love to see an offroad competition between factory stock vehicles that dont belong on a gravel road driven by expert offroaders, and built for the purpose off road vehicles driven by total noobs. I think it'd be a fun and educational exercise for everyone both builders and drivers.

[@aarontrotter5188]

A few stock Subarus have completed this trail on video before.

[@vroomvroom4889]

Cheater. You have the Forrest decal, everyone knows that decal adds +11 mounting climbing

[@legendarytrails]

lol, And 10 horsepower!

[@donaldkerns2180]

Stop complaining my stock Tacoma 6speed manual had no trouble

[@legendarytrails]

Was it a long bed? im guessing not, and also, the trails have changed a lot over the past 2 years because of erosion.

[@rockie307]

Tacoma really ain't that big. Some guys with skills take heavy duty crew cabs.

[@legendarytrails]

True. We've taken a large pickup many places before we had our tacoma. Tacoma makes things a lot easier. However with this one being a long bed, it's only a little shorter than our Ram 1500 was.

[@rockie307]

@legendarytrails I like the long bed tacoma don't own one but makes a good multi purpose camping trail rig.

[@MarsOrBust-d9h]

Thought TRO stands for rubbers but I found out it is TRD

[@randallrobertson4202]

I personally would not even Buy a Toyota of any kind.. I only Own Jeeps.. Made in America Baby...

[@legendarytrails]

Glad you like your jeep

[@scooter9023]

Made in America with parts produced in Mexico, Canada, and overseas….

[@royf.2471]

OMG!!! street tire`s, no real ground clearance and an inexperienced spotter? nope.

[@legendarytrails]

Incorrect on the inexperienced spotter. She's a very good spotter.

[@GATORADDAM]

I agree. The spotter was very good. The driver was decent. Just a bit more experience to get used where the tires are. Anyone is nervous on this trail and he used an abundance of caution. And that's the right thing to do!