Are You Calculating Poker Equity WRONG?

[@greennin]

I like to think it's Tony G on the other end, who qualified holding A2. There's a brick on the turn and on the river it's an "Ace from space"

[@peterseychelles1]

The best explanation of the 4/2 rule. Thank you! That really helps

[@darren4635]

Howard Lederer explained the 4/2 rule better than anyone over 10 years ago. This guy didn't explain why its multiplied by 4 or 2.

[@darthvilithrax574]

@@darren4635 he did actually. It’s multiplied by 4 because you have double the opportunity. Common sense imo

[@darren4635]

@@darthvilithrax574 you missed my point

[@darthvilithrax574]

@@darren4635 ummmmmm no? You missed the point of the video since you asked a question that was answered

[@Reelentlessbassfishing]

To be closer to the exact percentage it’s outs multiplied by 4 minus 2 and when using 2 it’s outs multiplied by 2 plus 2

[@upplsuckimcool16]

it's really great you're asking these questions and being open minded and I'm gonna keep talking and saying that as if I'm going to answer the question until the video ends without me actually saying anything else.

[@bin4ry_d3struct0r]

Thank you for this explanation. I was definitely using the 4/2 rule to calculate what I thought was my equity instead of my odds of improving.

[@chrisnewtownnsw]

splitsuit off topic and a bit of a brainteaser but i figured you'd be best to get advice from for this question. If you have two separate simulations. 1 is if turn pot is 100 and hero is in position in a 2 way and always checks his 19% equity/flush draw and no more money ever goes in for this simulation vs simulation 2 where turn pot is also 100 but hero calls a pot bet with 19% equity and when he hits his flush he always gets 10x the river pot in value. In a long term infinite sense, which simulation will generate more profit. It's like sim 1 gets a 19.2% positive penalty and sim 2 gets a 17% positive penalty. in other words sim 2 is getting 32:1 with a 4.3:1 chance which equates to a 17% edge. 530 (ev) divided by 3100 (pot plus reward) = 17% vs sim 1 who gets 19 ev divided by 100 (pot plus reward) which equals a 19% edge. Therefore sim 1 is surely the more attractive long term option right?

[@tmclbnk]

Like the hand reviews, my book is coming Tuesday. Any videos on the workbook chapters would be much appreciated 🙏

[@ThePokerBank]

Good idea!

[@an.unarmed.civilian]

am i a nit because depending on player type im folding QJ preflop here. unless they are 3 betting from blinds a ton. almost certainly folding c-bet here.

[@guyvanburen]

This clears things up thanks

[@Project2013B]

The Braun stroman of Poker

[@tarunkhurana8084]

😂

[@ethanslamberry6982]

i know this is an old video but i have a lingering question that i can't seem to figure out. where does the 4% come from? i understand that the computer software does all the simulations instantly but if i were in a live game, how would i estimate my equity? if the 4/2 rule is only to be applied for the outs that will give you the nuts, how would you estimate your equity in this hand after the flop?

[@johnnyordille6256]

James, should we also consider the equity of turning a Tx that would make us open ended? How would that work?

[@mrgainz7252]

Good question that I was also wondering.

[@kieranruddy3333]

that would be the implied odds? he said he's done a video on this which I'm gonna look for

[@SqaziWarrior]

wait you said x2 if wanna see 1card, x4 for 2 cards while google says x4 if wanna see flop or river x2 if wanna see the river after the turn, imabit confused

[@msaciek1234]

1:54 here it comes ! +ev play

[@atfti]

This begs the question, what IS QJ's equity on the flop?

[@ThePokerBank]

Equilab =)

[@jamessedlacek]

Is that hand player something you made that we can have access to?

[@ThePokerBank]

It's just an adobe illustrator file I create images from but we do have a few other internal tools we might release in the future

[@TheInternetofRandom]

What is this platform used for evaluation called?

[@ThePokerBank]

I think you're referring to Flopzilla Pro: www.splitsuit.com/shop/flopzilla-splitsuit-edition

[@jackbrogan6328]

When multiplying by 4 on the flop do we not consider K 10 as outs that can improve our hand to a flush?

[@FinanceAcademy7799]

You need to calculate conditional probability but the chances of a 10 following a K or vice versa are very very low. I am not sure if we apply it here.

[@darthvilithrax574]

Too rare to need to take into account. It’s just getting the general equity that’s key

[@mcpartridgeboy]

This was one of my biggest problems, its not 24% its 12% then you likely have to put in more on the river if you call and miss, i nevber considered the reraise option though, thanks for that, i dont like folding when the maths isnt right for one card, but is for 2 but i dont see another way, other than reraising wich i obviously cant do EVERY time.

[@chrisnewtownnsw]

a good idea is to x your outs by 3 if you think youll get a free card half of the times

[@xdomaja]

One of the best, thank you

[@gkmtav522]

Thanks for videos and hi from Turkiye.

[@leonwestman1443]

How do i send in a hand? It was in a live game and the splitsuit.com/hh dosent work??? :(

[@cata9223]

Yeah what’s a 1/2 pot flop and half pot turn is that correct odds lol

[@paulhamilton5420]

Good video

[@justinwhite2725]

Depending on the opponent, this is an easy ‘raise’ to 150-200 ish. At my regular table this is an objvous continuation bet after a miss. I could see pocket aces, kings or 9s - but there also pocket 10s through Q that won’t feel too happy in this spot.