Are You in the True Church? | A Biblical Worldview

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Beyond Today

Beyond Today

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With over 2 billion Christians worldwide and 200 denominations in the US alone, how do you know if your church is the true Church Jesus started? In this Biblical Worldview episode, United Church of God president, Rick Shabi, explores three critical questions to determine if your church aligns with Jesus' teachings. Rick Shabi delves into biblical principles, the true Sabbath day, and the real purpose of mankind as revealed in the Bible.
Discover if your church is mixing truth with pagan traditions and understand the incredible human potential according to God's plan. Don't miss out on uncovering the truth and finding the true Church of God.
Watch to gain insights into biblical views on the future and the role of faith in navigating uncertain times.
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@Nootz23
@Nootz23 2 ай бұрын
Love how Mr. Shabi unapologetically speaks the truth in love. We need more of that in the Church of God today!
@jeepjason94
@jeepjason94 2 ай бұрын
But he never once speaks the truth of love. He mentioned the Old Testament teachings and leaves out the greatest commandment and most obvious way to know if you’re in Gods true church. If the church you’re going to doesn’t teach love above all things; is it Gods true church? I feel if there isn’t a shift in focus from the OT law to a focus on love and the law on our hearts that there is a danger in becoming pharisaical.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@jeepjason94 well our church does teach love. This was a short video and love is the most misunderstood concept in the American Christian community and partly it’s a limitation of language because there’s only one word for love and then Greek for example there are three or four and our church does teach and one of the things that the Bible teaches which we also teach in this church is that you show love to God by keeping his commandments and they’re not burdensome so whatever your definition of love is I highly recommend before you jump to the conclusion that we don’t teach it why don’t you go to your own Bible and find out what new and old testament teachings about love actually are God doesn’t change Jesus Christ doesn’t change. If you want to find out in more detail what those different Greek words are that are translated with one word love in English, we have study aids on that and they run the full range of human emotion and experience because the Greek language is what the New Testament was written in. so short answer is yes we do teach it. longer answer there’s more to it than you think. It’s not whatever you or I might understand love to be; It’s whatever the Bible teaches Love ACTUALLY IS.
@Nootz23
@Nootz23 2 ай бұрын
​@jeepjason94 "agape" love is the greatest and most important thing; part of agape love is speaking about the truth, not just experiencing the emotion of love that people often misassociate with Godly (agape) love
@cantablocal6768
@cantablocal6768 2 ай бұрын
​@@jeepjason94 Read the OT if you want to know where Jesus taught from, start with Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18. In case you never noticed the first 4 commandments related to loving God and the last 6 related to loving our neighbour. Jesus used the sermon on the mount to help explain the understanding of commandment keeping and society today also needs to know God's will for us. While people like simple rules like "love" the majority of them use that as an excuse to deny God's call on our life. See the good Samaritan story so you can know that this was always a problem.
@karenhunt-cook2192
@karenhunt-cook2192 2 ай бұрын
@@jeepjason94 love G26 is regarding Ya’s 1st love Israel. The 12 Tribes. Love G25 is agape love, the love of Ya in the renewing of our minds back to scripture. Fileo love is earthly love. Possibly a deep love between husband and wife.
@robertjackson852
@robertjackson852 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I've Been deceived because the church that I used to attend doesn't the sabbath or gods holy days. Instead, they celebrate holidays like Christmas and Easter. After years of not being spiritually feed and preached a false Christianity, that's when I decided to leave. In 2023, I began counseling services with the United Church of God. On 02/25/24, I accepted Jesus as my Lord and personal savior, cofessed my sins , then I was baptized and received the gift if the holy spirit by laying on of the hands. I am happy to say that now I am an official member of the United Church of God. It's when you find the truth that is when you begin to reap its benefits.
@robertjackson852
@robertjackson852 2 ай бұрын
@robert-i1s thanks for your support.
@macdan22
@macdan22 Ай бұрын
You should question EVERYTHING in this "church" it is a false church based on teachings of a false teacher. Research Herbert Armstrong. A man who gave false prophecies, got a divorce even though Jesus teaches its wrong. Everything in this video is easily proven false with the bible. Sadly my own father is still in this cult, I pray his, yours and everyone else eyes will be open to the truth.
@yasminedghill4222
@yasminedghill4222 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍 for telling the "Truth", just as it is in the Bible.Blessings
@UrbanOne1960
@UrbanOne1960 2 ай бұрын
I've been watching this channel for the last few months. I learned a lot.
@dinareed4540
@dinareed4540 2 ай бұрын
Such a powerful message! Thank you for teaching the truth!
@billwassner1433
@billwassner1433 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Well done.
@caseyjones8203
@caseyjones8203 2 ай бұрын
If you are a Christian you are in the church. The Kingdom of God is not in observation, the Kingdom of God is within you.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
And you assemble before the Church of the Firstborn written in heaven Heb 12:23 in Spirit and Truth and your name is written in the Lam'bs Book of Life. There is no Church on earth. We are added to the Church in heaven.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
That is not a proper understanding of the scripture you for Christ was talking to a group of people. He was not saying that the kingdom of God was within you. He was talking about himself because he was standing there and the proper understanding is the kingdom of God is among you or, mixed other words, he was the representative of the kingdom of God. This thing has been studied many times and there are two camps. One is yours that it’s in you which is a little odd because I’m more logical understanding. Is that when you have been begotten by the Holy Spirit through repentance, let baptism and laying on his hands, you are someday going to be born into the kingdom of God so it’s not the kingdom of God that’s going to be in you rather that eventually you’re going to be in the kingdom of God
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 The Kingdom within is the inner man which can be regenerated by His word. The Kingdom has not come in its' fullness with observation, but it will when the firstfruits return with Christ. I know what Mr Armstrong taught about this but he was incorrect. We must come to see the Kingdom within our Spirit and be converted and regenerated. It is Both! The Kingdom within and the Kingdom coming in its' fullness.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 I think we’re probably agreeing more than we’re disagreeing, but we’re probably talking past each other so let’s just assume we’re on the same page for the sake of not getting into doubtful disputations. I think there’s a whole Lotta people out there who have absolutely no idea at all how far current 21st century practicing Christianity has departed from the faith once delivered to the Saints in the first century, and Mr. Shabi has pointed out very significant departures of Today’s version of Christianity from the faith once delivered to the Saints
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 Yes Paul said "The mystery of iniquity is already at work" It has worked exponentially today to hide the truth. I am not trying to dispute anyone. It is my reasonable service to God to share the truth and not be ashamed of any of it that I have received. I can be straightforward because of the internet and so many scoffers. Not my intention to offend, but whatever it tales to stir people up to the Power of God. Thanks for your comments.
@AlecParrish
@AlecParrish 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for divine truth! Blessings!
@tanyahamilton3550
@tanyahamilton3550 2 ай бұрын
I attend the true Church, i am a keeper of all God's Commandments and live by the testimonies of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. We teach the Bible which is the word of God. John 17:17
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
But do you believe in your heart that God raised Jesus Christ Our Lord out of the Dead? Or just that God raised Him back up alone.? Romans 10:9 You confess with your mouth that He is Lord, you do well, but your faith is vain if the dead did not rise with Him.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 this church definitely teaches that every human being that ever lived or every human being that’s alive or will be born and will die will be resurrected, or if alive at His coming will be changed from mortal to immortality “in the twinkling of an eye”. The Bible is very specific about their being more than one. Resurrection. You certainly didn’t expect Mr. Shabi to address that in detail in a short video, did you?
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 That's Universalism Sounds wonderful but not provable. Yes there are two resurrections. I know you teach 3 but not scriptural
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting him to address anything. They never do. I know their teachings and doctrines. I have friends in that church.
@alejandroumaslay3657
@alejandroumaslay3657 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 Romans 10:9-10, sometimes Christians cites this passage to support their belief that all you need to do is sincerely accept Jesus Christ one time and that your eternal salvation is guaranteed, this doctrine regarding the assurance of salvation is popularity referred to once saved always saved, however, in this passage, Paul is teaching something else, he making connections between the Old covenant and the new covenant, basically providing an interpretive paraphrase of Deuteronomy 30:11-14, in Romans 10:5-8, and then he teaches further in Romans 10:9-10, by explicating the citation from Deuteronomy 30 which he gives in Romans 10:8, this becomes clearer in comparing Deuteronomy 30:12-14, and Romans 10:6-10
@indrapersad75
@indrapersad75 2 ай бұрын
Always a powerful message from Mr Shabi. TRINIDAD
@monicaorhian9268
@monicaorhian9268 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful message president Shabi. Many blessings 🙏🏻
@theurbanapologist
@theurbanapologist 2 ай бұрын
I used to be in this church when Herbert W Armstrong ran it. Then I read Romans1 where it says, if you try to keep part or the Law and mix one point, you've violated the whole law. That's why Paul, a Pharisee or the Pharisees said that the only burden be would lay in the gentile was to obstain from blood and meat life to idols.
@dlee7631
@dlee7631 2 ай бұрын
you apparently missed the whole point. Remember the law in the Old Covenant is the same law in the New Covenant... Sorry Joe Jr., Albrecht, Feazell and Schnippert (sons of Belial) deceived you.
@davidsmith600
@davidsmith600 2 ай бұрын
@@dlee7631 wow you need to back up...Romans 8:4 says that the Christian who walks after the Spirit fulfills the righteous requirements of the law.
@davidsmith600
@davidsmith600 2 ай бұрын
@@dlee7631 and Jesus said that the law and the prophets can be summed up in 2 points 1) YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND (Matthew 22:37) 2) YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF
@dlee7631
@dlee7631 2 ай бұрын
​@@davidsmith600 not sure what you read that would make you think I disagree with you. The point I made is 100% accurate it is the same law that is the foundation of both covenants. The law has NOT been done away with as professing Christianity believes. It is the same law that will be written on our hearts (Jer 31:31) through the indwelling of God's Spirit. Also note, the very author you quoted also said in Rom 7:12 stated that the law is holy, just and good. Christ fufilled the righteous requirements of the law on our behalf because we never could keep it perfectly. It is Christ's perfect sinless life enables us and Israel (all 12 tribes) to be legally brought into the land at Christ's return. To be clear the law does not grant or earn you salvation, but it is certainly the standard we live by to show God the Father and Jesus Christ that Their standard (law, statutes) require our obedience (Act 5:32). Do we get it right... many, many times we fail, but that is why repentance is a gift (Rom 2:4).
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@davidsmith600 The word “walk” means live the life and do the thins the way Jesus did by example and taught His disciples to do. Keeping different days holy and celebrating different festivals, abandoning the practices of the early New Testament. Church is certainly not “walking as He walked “!
@user-uf3st6fc7g
@user-uf3st6fc7g 2 ай бұрын
What about Sun worship Sunday?
@user-uf3st6fc7g
@user-uf3st6fc7g 2 ай бұрын
@robert-i1s good
@ivanhuertas5307
@ivanhuertas5307 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the teachings one question something on Helen white?
@Dominick-qg2et
@Dominick-qg2et 2 ай бұрын
Sunday is not the Sabbath. Constantine a sun worshiper, Emperor of Rome in 325 at the council of Niecia changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday and anyone who would not comply would be beheaded. Could you look up what other devious things he decreed?
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
TO ALL WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED COMMENTS: Well, I guess one thing we can all agree on is: this topic is not “dull or uninteresting”. When anybody brings up a doctrinal position, it certainly sparks a lot of enthusiasm, back-and-forth and for the most part respectful exchange of views. But I also tell you it could be a little bit time-consuming, causing introspection, which is a good thing while consuming a lot of personal energy. On balance I’m very happy that Mr. Shabi’s “certainly provocative” video has resulted in some dialogue between people who hold different views about what true Christianity is! I’m not at all upset. I feel energized that modern Christianity maybe turning a corner and I think it’s a corner leading into a positive direction about clarifying what is real Christianity and what it is by a Scripturally-sound standard for defining it. I think a better place to start is what it was understood to be originally instead of what it is understood to be now; but then again others disagree. I’m hoping other people jump into the conversation because I certainly don’t have a lot of time to respond to every question or contribute further so to all of you whether we’ve agreed or disagreed it’s 830 East Coast time on Sunday and I am pretty much talked out and other people pick up the dialogue without me because I don’t think I’ll be having enough time to do this much engaging in religious and theological dialogue as the weekday starts. Stay safe and have a productive week! Richard 😊
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
Well said. Now can you please just do a video on Jer 31:15-17 the Blessed Hope + The Resurrection of MANY in Luke 2:34-35 and Matthew 27:52 ? am not asking you to agree with me, but with God and scripture. You do realize that there was to be and there came into being a resurrection in Israel? Why isn't this taught in Christianity? Notice in Luke 2:34 the word "anastasis" is mistranslated as "rising again" this one time out of about 46 times it is used. WHY? This one verse has blinded Christianity for 1900 years. If every Christian knew about this resurrection caused by Jesus then Christianity would surely turn a corner. May God give you strength to rightly divide all of His Word (the truth) in all humility and truth! Blessings! venson555 on youtube
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 well I’m not sure where we’re disagreeing obviously, there’s at least two correct in understandings possibly more of those scriptures and Jeremiah. When obvious first one can be associated with the male children that pilot had murdered because he didn’t want them to become king of the Jews, but a second full film of this of course, certainly associated with our understanding of ancient Israel, going into captivity and the descendants of them, possibly some of us around each other, going into a captivity at the end time and then being redeemed and brought back to the land of Israel during the millennium after Christ return so I don’t honestly know what we’re disagreeing about when it comes to this. You know if we were to be categorized in the little boxes that theologians like to put us in all of us who believe in the second coming of Christ and believe in a millennial reign of Christ on the earth with resurrected saints were called pre-millennial apocalyptics, which is kind of like the way we put people in Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical, Catholic pigeonholes. I’m flattered that you think I’m actually involved in doing these videos. I’m just an overly energetic person in the church with 40 years having been baptized after being raised a protestant and I’m pretty enthusiastic about the promises by God to all his people with his plan of salvation pictured by the holy days , so that every person who ever lived or every will live at their time, will be called by the Father, will have their opportunity for conversion, a time of judgment with opportunity for eternal life as a God-being child in the household of God and Jesus Christ our elder brother. Judgment is now on the household of God and in the right time judgment will be on everybody else who hasn’t yet been called either because they were born too early, etc. People like to use the translation. This is the day of salvation when it should be in a day of salvation because there is more than one day of salvation, but you only get a chance in one of them. So you know that’s a pretty good summary if you wanna say you’re a heretic over here good tell me ! I was called an idiot so now I could be a heretical idiot or an idiotic heretic. I’m picking up titles every day! :-)
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 Jeremiah 29:11 New King James Version For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 Matthew 2752 refers to a group of people who were dead that were raised to to mortal life again not to immortality just like Lazarus was raised to mortal life and not immortality. He didn’t become a spirit being he didn’t become someone who could pass through walls and appear suddenly like Christ dead and that’s why I it’s almost laughable when you hear these people say are you born again? No, you are begotten again to a living. Hope you haven’t been born again until you’ve been born the spirit and you can do exactly what Christ I would like to say some of them. OK you’re born again. Come on just once just do it once for me please walk through a while and come out the other side then I’ll know you’re born again, believe Lazarus was right from the dead. I do. Do you believe that people came out of their graves and were known again by people like the relatives and friends? I do I believe that happened at Christ Resurrection but that’s not all of the dead that’s all these people are talking about, they certainly don’t have everything in perspective. Those people that were resurrected back to mortal life lived for some period of time and died again there’s no other possible translation or understanding of it. That makes any sense at all when you have to finally judge the validity of an understanding of is it consistent with everything from Genesis to revelation because the stuff that got changed clearly got changed within that context and it was something very important, it was it was documented. Can you imagine something important not being documented as a change when the apostles jump through hoops to come to an understanding that physical circumcision was changed to circumcision of the heart it wasn’t abolished. I hope I’m helping you but I’m not about to do a video.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 Would you argue that it’s mistranslated simply because it’s transmitted related differently? Why does a Greek word that’s used 42 times always have to have the same meaning that’s not what happens in Greek? First of all you asserting it was translated and now you’re asking me a hypothetical question about your , personal opinion that it was mistranslated. I don’t play “Rope a Dope”! Please clearly state your entire argument about what this seems to mean to you Wyatt’s miss translated, and what conclusions that were falsely coming to or what understandings are we false asleep coming to because of the alleged Miss translation. Once you’ve done all of those things I’ll have some ability to comment
@viviansdoey5077
@viviansdoey5077 2 ай бұрын
i WAS RAISED IN YOUR 'CHURCH' BUT THE MINISTER IN MY AREA HAS 'NEVER' WELCOMED ME .. AND WHEN I HAD QUESTIONS HE NEVER ONCE ANSWERED ME OR SAT WITH ME TO SHOW ME PROOF OF WHAT HIS ANSWER WAS... NOT ONCE.
@GrannySanny
@GrannySanny 2 ай бұрын
I used to hold God responsible for what men did and finally recognized His love for me had never wavered and the problem was with imperfect men. I no longer hold any man up on a pedestal but look to my Father in heaven alone. I don't forsake the assembly because of fallible men, and do respect the office of those in charge, but salvation must be worked out in our individual relationship with God. I don't want to stand before Him on the judgment day and think I have a defense for lack of obedience because of what men did that harmed me.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Try again. You’ll likely find the ministry team has changed and I’m confident that if you have a question it will be answered.
@karenhunt-cook2192
@karenhunt-cook2192 2 ай бұрын
Hi Vivian, I’m not a part of this sect. It has excellent teaching. Yet, it doesn’t preach Ya’s first love. If you are interested in pure scripture rightly divided I’m available. I’m on the Wast Coast. How may I be of service.
@r0ck3rMX
@r0ck3rMX 2 ай бұрын
Does your church teaches that our only true God is the Father and also He is the God of Jesus? John 17:3, 20:17 Ephesians 1:3, 1:7.
@r0ck3rMX
@r0ck3rMX 2 ай бұрын
Jesus always said that The Father was greater than himself. In John 4:23 Jesus said that the true worshippers shall worship The Father (The father of Jesus) in spirit and in true...
@jeepjason94
@jeepjason94 2 ай бұрын
I think most people in this church would agree that Jesus is God the father’s son.
@r0ck3rMX
@r0ck3rMX 2 ай бұрын
@@jeepjason94 yes, must churches in the world and even the demons know that Jesus is the Son of God.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Yes. The book of John says that before anything was created, there was God, and there was the word and the word was God, and the word was with God and the word became flesh and dwell among us and yet Christ always said the father is greater than I can do nothing without him so I don’t know how much more in line with, what you understand the doctrine to be then what we’re doing is without question this actual view of the godhead. Two beings right now eventually become a family with children of God, living at the God, plain level of existence instead of in bodies of flesh that decay.
@davidsmith600
@davidsmith600 2 ай бұрын
(I posted the verses below) Paul says don't let anyone judge you regarding the keeping of the Sabbath (Colossians 2:16-17) so no, I do not receive the "Church of God" condemnations about those who meet on Sunday! Col 2:16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, Col 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
@Tom-w1n
@Tom-w1n Ай бұрын
It's interesting that Paul said not to let anyone judge you for Sabbaths--not for Sundays and pagan days. In all of his 14 books, Paul meets on the Sabbath with Jews and Gentiles and teaches keeping it.
@davidsmith600
@davidsmith600 Ай бұрын
Rom 14:22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. Rom 14:23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.....to me religiously observing the sabbath would not be by faith....but frankly silly....it is not a part of my beliefs so whatever you do, you do unto God and whatever I do, I do unto God...and we both will answer to Jesus. Read the whole of Romans 14 and you will get my point (reading it takes only two minutes)....we wiere called to freedom brother (Gal 5:13)
@user-hy2du8fg6l
@user-hy2du8fg6l Ай бұрын
You may have interpreted the passage incorrectly. Don't let any Judge you for keeping your SABBATH on Saturday when the "church" has moved it to Sunday. Think about it. Enoch (PROPHET)
@KenMeyers
@KenMeyers 2 ай бұрын
Love your messages,however I left your church because you do not praise the name Yahweh (god)by not using his name and giving him a generic title.scripture tells us to praise his name.halaluyah!his name is in scripture more than 6000 times he did not give us his name to ignore it.hope you guys realize this some day,keep in the word brothers and sisters love you all🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
@Tom-x7p7u
@Tom-x7p7u 26 күн бұрын
Please consider Acts 4:10-12, Matthew 1:23. Is it YHVH or YHWH, and nobody knows how to pronounce it and the Jews deliberately don't. I hope you highly regard what God did through Herbert Armstrong, and he stated that there were three issues that kept cropping up all of his years leading God's people: pentecostal emotionalism, tongues, and sacred names. If you have proved that "your church" is part of the true spiritual Church of God, then please don't let one of these non-salvation issues take you out.
@dhe777
@dhe777 2 ай бұрын
A true church is one that is not institutionalized and preaches the Biblical Gospel.
@danieldowdell9831
@danieldowdell9831 2 ай бұрын
Good Today ! __ " Jesus the Christ of GOD ", a simple trueth easily found in the early Writtings of the Jewish be-Livers of the " Way, Trueth, Life ". __ humbly, neighbour daniel __ p.s. thanks for increasing knowledge in this our troubled time .
@blairkenneth7739
@blairkenneth7739 2 ай бұрын
Iv'e went several times to a jewish messianic christian church, and they meet on both saturday and sunday, and one day during the week also. I went to a seventh day adventist church several times, and some people there told me they work on saturday, and the Pastor doesnt have a problem with it. He's not going to tell them they have to stop working on saturday, even though the leadership of the denomination teaches otherwise. The bible says not one jot or iota will pass from the law until all be fulfilled. The fullfillment of scripture happened when Jesus arrived on earth.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
The pastor will have to explain his doctrinal shift to somebody more powerful and with more authority than you or me. Clearly, it seems he’s taking away from the word of God now the specific reference for punishing for doing that with in the book of revelation, and whether the phrase applies to just this book meeting that one book of revelation or this book meeting, the entirety of scripture is a matter of great importance. I don’t see how you can take away some of the word of God and not be taking it away from all of the word of God so I guess the comparison you made us unfortunate one for the person who is that that pastor most likely but it doesn’t make much more sense to me for you to bring it up then if you said well, the speed limit is 70 miles an hour, but I found a cop that would let me go 75. Maybe he doesn’t have any penalty for letting you do thatI’m not sure it’s going to be like that cop.
@cantablocal6768
@cantablocal6768 2 ай бұрын
What work do they do? They might be involved in healthcare or something else that fits within the instruction that it is lawful to do good on Sabbath? Judge not is a message to us as well so I have probably said enough.
@Marie070
@Marie070 2 ай бұрын
Is this Church of God Seventh day? COG7?
@theurbanapologist
@theurbanapologist 2 ай бұрын
This is the Worldwide Church of God rebranded.
@danieldifranco3856
@danieldifranco3856 2 ай бұрын
Yes the Sabbath and feasts should be kept, but Jesus said the world would know his disciples by the love they have one for another. The Pharisees kept those things and Jesus said they were sons of their father the devil.
@mo86r97
@mo86r97 2 ай бұрын
The essence of Sin is “positional”. Man by his wisdom, the devil, assumed and ascended the pinnacle of power in government, both religious and secular. Mat 4:5 Then the devil taketh him into the holy city, and he set him on the pinnacle of the temple, If you walk into any church assembly, the founder is usually a “man of god” or a man who has become “a god”(Gen 3:5, Eze 28:2) in the “house of god” because you live by his teachings and instructions - his “mouth” is God to you. Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of God. There is a “mouth” we are to yield in the affairs of man but “the mouth” can only be found in his YET to be established kingdom on earth. Hence the Lord’s Prayer…. Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so ON EARTH. The kingdom or the government has not arrived at his “chosen nation” yet, therefore faith is required in “the seed”. Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. The “substance” is the government presently occupied by “a god” in every nation. Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Christianity does not lead you into the kingdom of god on earth. Christianity leads you into idolatry, exalting Jesus, an idol, placing him on the seat at the pinnacle of the temple but he had showed the way in that he declined ascendant by the wisdom of man, the devil. Obviously Jesus the “church Idol”, by the theology or wisdom of man, will not be descending from the sky in a supernatural future event to take the seat at the pinnacle of the temple. So when you attend a local church assembly, which is NOT the kingdom or government of God on earth, you are living by the words of an idolater(a god) who assumed the highest seat of power in religious government( equate to a PM or a king) That, is the essence of Sin or higest transgression in government - the consequences are deaths, wars, destructions, famines, economic destructions and lawlessness etc Rom 3:10 as it is written: "There is none righteous, no not one; Rom 3:11 there is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God." Rom 3:12 "They are all gone out of the way, they have together become unprofitable, there is none that does good, no, not one." Rom 3:13 "Their throat is an open grave, with their tongues they have used deceit, the poison of asps is under their lips; Rom 3:14 whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness;" Rom 3:15 "their feet are swift to shed blood; Rom 3:16 destruction and misery are in their way, Rom 3:17 and the way of peace they did not know." Talking about your…president?
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Everything the presenter said is clearly required of Christians if you want to be worshipping God the early New Testament church did. If you’re believing and doing something else, it follows quite logically that you’re not in the same church. I don’t know how much more simply it could be stated.
@BrookDesHarnais
@BrookDesHarnais 2 ай бұрын
Sunday is not the sabbath; the 7th day is, so the sda church is right and all others on sunday are wrong. But the sda church is just another catholic daughter, even though she has an elaborate, pretty costume. No, the law was not nailed to the cross; the "handwriting of ordinances" was. What? - Where will you worship? Jesus' hometown church tried to throw Him off a cliff. If yours hates you, you may be doing something Right.
@ruthsmith3219
@ruthsmith3219 2 ай бұрын
Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath
@BrookDesHarnais
@BrookDesHarnais 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelTheophilus906 By this, are you meaning to say that we should no longer observe the law?
@Marie070
@Marie070 2 ай бұрын
If they (Sda) left off having a prophet and stopped some of their doctrines we could talk but they make high prophesions but don't live up to any of it.
@BrookDesHarnais
@BrookDesHarnais 2 ай бұрын
@@Marie070 Ellen White was the messenger of the LORD. The sabbath is the 7th day. sda pride = fallen angel inspiration
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelTheophilus906 scripture says Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. It does not say Jesus is the sabbath.
@davidsmith600
@davidsmith600 2 ай бұрын
I liked some of your teaching but you lost me...when you went did the sabbath road...we worship in Spirit and truth...but gather on a Sunday, does that give you the right to judge us?!?! God is the one who decides who belongs to Him not you
@Tom-x7p7u
@Tom-x7p7u 14 күн бұрын
Yes, God is the One and He gave all judgment to Jesus which is great for us since He came and lived as one of us--keeping the Sabbath not Sunday and teaching His Apostles to keep the Sabbath and teach it even to Gentiles. What could be more plain than Jesus' statement in Mark 2:28 about what day is really "the Lord's day"!
@kennethdye6393
@kennethdye6393 2 ай бұрын
Anyone that talks like this guy is a liar. Paul taught specifically in Galatians and Colossians that keeping Jewish practices is not required. James, the leader of the Jerusalem Council that all that Gentiles are required is to not eat blood, refrain from idols, and remember the poor. Christians are not required to be Jewish. Berating Christian Churches is berating the Body of Christ. You will be judged for that. I pray your minds will be open to the truth. Yes, there is sin and mixed up doctrinal practices in All Churches, which is why Christianity will not be the way in the Millennial Reign. Israel, Jews, will be ruling the world. Live peacefully in what you believe but don't tell other Churches they are wrong because that makes you wrong.
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 2 ай бұрын
The one and only true Chuch Jesus founded, Mat 16: 17-19.
@bruce8961
@bruce8961 2 ай бұрын
Most people in Churches Today are more Lost than The loss and believe they are Saved, But will only Hear, Depart from me You Workers of Iniquity
@davidsmith600
@davidsmith600 2 ай бұрын
because they worship on a Sunday instead of a Saturday??? that is not from the same God who let David eat the Showbread....ok enough I am not going to argue take care
@karenhunt-cook2192
@karenhunt-cook2192 2 ай бұрын
1. Jesus Christ taught the resurrection of the FirstFruits. His Fathers first love. Rev. 2:2 2. Only celebrate Ya’s Holy Days_ Lev. 23. & Torah! 2a. 7th Day Sabbath-Saturday Exo. 7:8. I am a part of the Ekklasia. 3. Heb. 2:7-; Messiah, Firstfruits and those of us grafted into the body the church. Christ’s death and resurrection healed that which Adam handed over to Satan. We will meet Christ the head and the FirstFruits the body and the church whom those that believe in are grafted into. No longer Jew or Gentile. Now in the one new body.
@offthefront7537
@offthefront7537 4 күн бұрын
What’s the difference between a true church and a false church? How they’re spelled. Thanks for setting me up for this joke. Pretty good huh.
@markh4926
@markh4926 2 ай бұрын
Am I in the true church? "Where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am."
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 2 ай бұрын
That doesn't mean those two are baptised by the Holy Spirit into the Body of Christ. Only Paul's Gospel of Grace can do that for anyone who believes it.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Do you really think it’s so unconditional they don’t actually have to be keeping Christian doctrines. It’s very clear. He was talking to believers who were being led by the very people. He personally trained to do things the way he personally wanted them or required them by the laws of God to do. Just because you’re getting together in his name And worshiping doesn’t guarantee he’s gonna be there with you. Yes, you don’t have to be an organized church, but why would you not want to get together when we are commanded to assemble for a lot of good reasons including helping each other grow. I’ve seen a whole Lotta people who because of circumstance health they get together in a living room. I mean fact you’re interested there are groups out there that have list of people in your area who are doing that. I’m assuming you’re not saying that that’s all you have to do and that the doctrines that Mr. Shay said are not going to be necessary simply because two or three of you were getting together. I’m hoping after I’ve beat this drum with everybody else I’ve talked to that you’ve got the message That you still have to do it the way the first century Church did it! If this is some kind of way to say well, I don’t need to then just say start off your comment with: “I do not have to do what Mr. Shabi says I should do to be part of the church Christ built because I’m doing XYZ instead.” 🧐
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 I'm pretty sure Jesus was talking to Israel according to their prophecy and their doctrine. He sent Paul to talk to the Body of Christ Church after Israel fell and diminished.
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 2 ай бұрын
@robert-i1s Actually, Jesus said the Disciples were the little flock. We are the Body of Christ Church. Jesus never once mentioned us.
@markh4926
@markh4926 2 ай бұрын
@@bugsocsollie1694 Jesus mentioned us very often as the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. If you are Caucasian you are part of the House of Israel. No other nation or people is part of that flock. Israel escaped the Assyrian Captivity through the Caucuses Mountain Range. There is a pass there called The Pass of Israel. Look it up.
@bigtobacco1098
@bigtobacco1098 2 ай бұрын
The church you claim hasn't been around for the entirety of church history 😅😅😅
@victorcroker2765
@victorcroker2765 2 ай бұрын
This type of preaching has way too many holes in it. If Jesus provided "opportunity for salvation for every man, woman, and child", then how about a child born, never heard the Gospel, dies at the age of 11 months from a rare disease. Where was the opportunity provided for that child? Oh, and as the Bible says, God is NOT a respector of persons. So no one individual is in a preferred position before God. See how your faulty theology does not have an answer for that scenario. And please, don't give me the "Age of Accountability" the church concocted, and the Bible doesn't support. I've asked that same type of question to many "Christians" that believe in man's free will to chose God, and no one has an answer. That's because with that theology, there is no answer. Truth is, Jesus did NOT die for every man woman, and child. He died for his people. Read John 17: 9 slowly. They are called, the "Elect." God elects certain people to salvation, and the rest he has no intention in saving. The wonder of wonders is why he elects any of us dirty, filthy sinners to something as glorious as being with him in heaven. If God wants to save a baby in the womb, he can. God saves who he wants. The "saved", are only benefactors with no contribution.
@victorcroker2765
@victorcroker2765 2 ай бұрын
Here's where the problem is. People read the Bible with pre concieved notions about what God is saying. So they force the Word to fit their narrative, not the other way around. Lev 23 is speaking of the ceremonial laws concerning feast days. Laws that aren't observed today, except for the Jewish nation, most of which don't see Christ as the "Savior " anyway. God describes man before salvation as having a "desperately wicked heart." He says many ugly things about mankind. If you can conclude from all the ugly things God's says about us, that man still has some good in him to accept God, ON GOD'S TERMS, then it's nothing else I can say. And especially now, in these last days, when God has pronounced judgment on the entire world.
@TheOldBailey4135
@TheOldBailey4135 2 ай бұрын
Pastor, WE are the church
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
You are “A” church! You are “THE” church of the living God as taught by the Apostles to both Jew and gentile converts, If and ONLY if you follow their doctrines. Otherwise you’re somebody else’s church, maybe your own! Wouldn’t be surprised if Satan went to church. Plenty of options available that can’t pass the doctrinal test required to be THE church. 😊
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 The only way any of us could be the church is if we were resurrected at the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Otherwise we are added to the church of the firstborn in heaven in Spirit and truth! That is the order. All earthly churches think they are the church.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 Not so, my friend! :-) We are the church of the living God in an embryonic state. We are begotten not born. We are born to live resurrection but his church is what he would build and he would build it on as himself not Peter the pretty good analysis of that is done several ways. But I digress a little bit. The church of the living God exists in human form and has , since the baptisms that occurred on the day of Pentecost in about 31 A.D. after Peter fire sermon and which at least 3000 were baptized the church has been persecuted yet it will prevail. The church actually in Greek is “ekklesia”which means ~ “called out ones”. I don’t understand where you get this understanding that we’re not the church until we’re resurrected. 🧐
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 You are only the Church (ecclesia) when you are added to the Ecclesia in heaven. The Ecclesia began at Creation. We are called to believe by faith the good news of the ecclesia redeemed. The church did not begin at Pentecost. The Holy Spirit was sent to seal the believers who believed Christ completed His Father's mission to redeem the ecclesia. No, the 3ooo were added to the ecclesia, The church was resurrected with Jesus and taken to the Father. The gates of the grave did not prevail against Christ's mission to rescue them. The baptism of Fire is the Only Baptism that matters. Your earthly church is a man led cult, not the ecclesia of God. They will water baptize you into their organization and not even understand. The Bible is filled with Mystery and few understand it. We are "added" to the ecclesia / church. We are not completed until we are caught up together with Them. If you want to say born or begotten either is fine with me. Born and begotten is a very debatable subject. Regardless Jesus said we must be Born Again. Yes, the believer added to the church in heaven will suffer persecution. Those added will be hated by all for His sake. I might have said we are not completed until we are resurrected. I know your doctrine well. It leaves out God's resurrected Sons just like all of the denominations and cults do. These are the two divergent ways. One leads to Life the other death. Every man has to be convinced in his own mind. We either seek and love the truth that God saved them or we believe and love the lie that denies Him and them, the lie that God raised Jesus only. God bless you as you seek Him! The Truth will set you totally free! The Father seeks those who will worship Him in Spirit and in truth! Shalom!
@Randy-po8bk
@Randy-po8bk 2 ай бұрын
I'm in the true church, the body of Christ!
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes 2 ай бұрын
Only a simpleton fool believes & reveres the supernatural fairy tales, fictions & myths just because a book claims itself to be the holy truth.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
Then you are grafted into the Church of the Firstborn written in heaven? He 12:23
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes 2 ай бұрын
♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Only fools revere the supernatural myths & fictions just because a book claims itself to be the holy truth." ♦"The delusional religious fools are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@AtamMardes Thats religion but truth came through Jesus Christ.
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 Unfortunately you're not saying anything intelligent by thinking properly & honestly. You're only parroting the stuff you happen to have been indoctrinated with.
@nickswicegood4316
@nickswicegood4316 2 ай бұрын
This is an easy one- Jesus promised to be with His Church from the great commission to the end of time. So…whichever Church is the true Church can be found in every century from the 1st until today. Any “Church” that comes into existence in, oh, say…1886 is not possibly the Church Christ founded. But thanks for playing:)
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
Its even simpler Christ took the church to His Father after His resurrection. Then the earth church mystery of iniquity went to work building counterfeits. Many throughout the last 1900 years have understood this, been added, and their name is written with them in heaven. They are coming back with Christ to ingather all together.
@nickswicegood4316
@nickswicegood4316 2 ай бұрын
Wait. The church went to heaven with Jesus when he was resurrected? Jesus didn’t even go to heaven for 40+ days. Also…what was going on in the book of acts with the apostles planting churches of the church went to heaven with Jesus when he resurrected?
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@nickswicegood4316 Jesus presented them (His Brethren) to the Father right after He told Mary Touch Me not in John 20:17 for I am not yet ascended to My Father, but go tell My Brethren (the risen firstfruits) "I ascend" (Mary then went to the disciples and told them that He had spoken these things-"Go tell the Brethren I ascend") Then He was seen for 40 days before His being taken up in the Cloud. Ten days later He sent the Spirit to birth the disciples so they could believe and understand. During the 40 days it was fine for them to touch Him.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
In Acts the assemblies of the ecclesia is those called to believe - not the ecclesia taken to heaven. The Body of Christ ecclesia was taken to the Father. the believers - ecclesia are the assemblies of believers in what took place. Church is a very misleading word. An ecclesia is a called one. There were many added to the church / ecclesia in the first century. They were added to the fellowship Eph 3:8-9 who were fellowshipping in the mystery of the ascended firstfruits ecclesia. When we believe the gospel that God raised them we are added to the church in heaven. We are in fellowship with them as our Brethren and Christ's Brethren. Those who believe are attached to the ecclesia. added to them, but we are still on earth. We fellowship in Spirit and truth with them. We don't go anywhere to do that.We do it all day long.
@nickswicegood4316
@nickswicegood4316 2 ай бұрын
Ok thanks for your personal interpretation:)
@crisantocabrerajr.3508
@crisantocabrerajr.3508 2 ай бұрын
Jesus organized His one true church on earth during His mortal ministry and it is founded upon prophets and apostles and He being the chief corner stone qnd He ordained them with His Priesthood authority to preach His gospel but He was murdered up upon the cross and on the third day He arose from the dead,even His apostles were all killed except John....the church that He organized and The Priesthood was no longer on earth. In the 3rd century. constantine established The Roman Catholic and in 15th century The Reformist and The Protestants and The Evangelical churches were started by Calvin, Wesley, Luther and many different church leaders started their own sects of religion because their source of divine guidance is based only of the bible. The Lord knows the end from the beginning,He knew that in the last days many will come in his name and teach all manner of incorrect doctrine due to private interpretation of the Bible. In 600 BC He commanded prophet Lehi and his family to leave Jerusalem and they brought with them ancient scriptures written on brass plates and themselves preserved their history and Gods dealings with them for more than a thousand year an their writting were abridged by a prophet historian great great great great grsndson of Lehi named Mormon and before he died gave it to his son Moroni who wrote his last will and testament with a promise that whoso shall read ponder and,pray about this book who was translated into English in 1827 by a young farm boy named Joseph Smith by the power of the Holy Ghost may know by,the same power that it is true. Please visit the youtube channel Delighting in Truth of David Alexander who was born and raised a catholic who joined the Evangelical christian churches for 47 years searched for the true church until he found it few months ago.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
You sound like a Mormon. If you are, how can you be teaching only the doctrines of the first century church that Jesus started? 🧐???
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
Venson555 for truth about the church. It went to heaven
@user-co2jw6cf1x
@user-co2jw6cf1x 2 ай бұрын
I’m in the one true church. It’s called the Seventh Day Adventist church
@mo86r97
@mo86r97 2 ай бұрын
In every religious assembly that collects offerings and tithes, you will find a “preacher” seated at the pinnacle of the temple - the mouth of “a god”. That's THE biblical Sin, false church or government mired in idolatry.
@jeepjason94
@jeepjason94 2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure I follow what you’re saying. Are you saying there shouldt be preachers? Or there shouldn’t be organized religion? Also, where is the idolatry you speak of in the church this video was about?
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@jeepjason94 There is no such thing as a tithe today.
@jeepjason94
@jeepjason94 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 only a requirement to be generous with all of our resources.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@jeepjason94 Help those who are less fortunate
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Tithing or not tithing is an entirely separate issue when the context of the video itself dealt with some very fundamental beliefs that the Bible clearly requires of Christians. I’m not hearing objections to those questions raised in the video. It’s obvious those are all things that are practiced by mainstream Christianity and nobody’s discussing those. They’re bringing up several issues here so I think I’d rather stay focused on the subject that was brought up in the video than these other important doctrinal issues people are bringing up. Tithing or not tithing is a separate controversial issue among believers, whether they believe in the keeping the Sabbath or Sunday
@andrew-ld4if
@andrew-ld4if 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your points made in this short video. However, you started with the wrong question/statement; Jesus, or Yeshua as his mother named him, never started a "new church", nor did the disciples or Paul. Jesus was born a Jew, died a Jew, was raised to life as a Jew, and ascended back to heaven, as a Jew. The word "church", isn't found in the Bible in the Greek Septuagint or the Hebrew. God's people have, since Abraham, been direct, physical descendants of Abraham (i.e. Jews) and those of the nations who join with the nation of Israel and their God who is the God of the Bible. Those of the nations, or Gentiles, do not become Jewish. They do become part of God's chosen people though, Israel. So says the Bible. We are grafted into the native olive branch which is Israel. To teach you are the "actual church" Jesus started is a form of Replacement Theology and is anti-Biblical.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Jesus said I will build my church in Matthew. The rock you referred to with himself so that’s all any of us really need to do to dismiss your claim that Jesus was never in a church. He was building his church and the Rocky was building it on was himself. He was the best the one prophesied.
@andrew-ld4if
@andrew-ld4if 2 ай бұрын
Hi Robert, The scripture, "...neither Jew nor Greek.." does not mean God did away with the distinction of Jew or Greek. Just as he didn't do away with male or female (also part of the verses you cited.) Your point does not address what I stated. God/Jesus did not start a new "church" or religion. The community He established with Abraham and affirmed with Moses is the same community Jesus was born into. It is the same community the disciples taught as well.
@macdan22
@macdan22 Ай бұрын
Holy this guy is full of so many lies. Guess he never read his edited bible very well. If he read the true bible and the book of Maccabees he would have read about the victory the Jews had over the Romans. Its called the Festival of Dedication. John 10:22 shows Jesus was at the temple for the festival. He is right on 1 thing though, the bible does show truth vs lies. Everything he said in this is easily proven false with the bible.
@Tom-w1n
@Tom-w1n 29 күн бұрын
The Book of Maccabees is not in the canonized Bible. As a Jew Jesus kept the Festival of Dedication (John 10:22) but it's not one of God's commanded Sabbaths, kind of like our 4th of July. Rick Shabi gave Bible verses proving all the points he made.
@macdan22
@macdan22 29 күн бұрын
@@Tom-w1n Actually the book of Maccabees is. It wasn't edited out of the protestant bible until 1880ish. The very first edition of the KJV had those books in it. On this very platform type in 400+ Year Old King James Bible and you'll see a man with a massive bible in a short with 1.3 million view and watch it for yourself. That festival is a foreshadow just like the bronze serpent that Moses raised up. Rick lied , those verses do not back up anything he claimed. He said celebrating at Christmas time was Pagan. Obviously not if Jesus was celebrating a festival that had existed for nearly 2 centuries prior to his birth. Literally everything he has said in this video is a bold face lie.
@macdan22
@macdan22 29 күн бұрын
@@Tom-w1n He claimed Easter is pagan, yet here are verses that show otherwise. Zechariah 7:3 and to ask the priests of the house of the Lord of hosts and the prophets, “Should I mourn and practice abstinence in the fifth month, as I have done for so many years?” 4 Then the word of the Lord of hosts came to me: 5 Say to all the people of the land and the priests: When you fasted and lamented in the fifth month and in the seventh, for these seventy years, was it for me that you fasted? The fifth month is called Av* and is at the exact same time that Lent and Easter happen. Notice how the Lord asks if it was for HIM these things have been done?
@macdan22
@macdan22 29 күн бұрын
@@Tom-w1n His lies about the Sabbath. Neither Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox deny Saturday as being the original sabbath both have mass/liturgy services on those days. The new sabbath day celebrated on Sunday because that is the day Jesus raised from the dead and started the new covenant for us. Jeremiah 31:31 The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant that I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt-a covenant that they broke, though I was their husband,[g] says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Matthew 12:8 For the Son of Man is lord of the sabbath. He told taught them to break bread and have wine that is transformed into the body and blood of Christ and told us to do this in remembrance of Him.(NOT a symbol) Luke 22:19 Then he took a loaf of bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me. He showed up and broke bread with the people on the first day after he rose. Their eyes were open upon receiving his body and their hearts were burning with the scripture read. Luke 24:27 Then beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them the things about himself in all the scriptures.28 As they came near the village to which they were going, he walked ahead as if he were going on. 29 But they urged him strongly, saying, “Stay with us, because it is almost evening and the day is now nearly over.” So he went in to stay with them. 30 When he was at the table with them, he took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to them. 31 Then their eyes were opened, and they recognized him; and he vanished from their sight. 32 They said to each other, “Were not our hearts burning within us[k] while he was talking to us on the road, while he was opening the scriptures to us?” 33 That same hour they got up and returned to Jerusalem; and they found the eleven and their companions gathered together. 34 They were saying, “The Lord has risen indeed, and he has appeared to Simon!” 35 Then they told what had happened on the road, and how he had been made known to them in the breaking of the bread.
@Charles73358
@Charles73358 2 ай бұрын
Sir you are deceiving yourself you are missing the spiritual significance of the change between the law of sin and death and the Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus. The Bible says that Christ took those rudiments and ordinances that were against us and nailed them to the cross and he also abolished in his flesh the enmity thereby . Keeping the Sabbath was a carnal commandment because it was written on tables of Stone so therefore it had no spiritual life in it so when Christ shed his own blood on the cross and was resurrected this fulfilled the fact that Christ is now our Sabbath so we are holy through Christ not through the strength of our own hands The original law of the Sabbath was under the circumcision of the flesh. ! Acts 15:1-11 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. 3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. 4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. And also the Sabbath Commandment originally was in reference to the inhabited land of Israel and not the entire world once the Gentiles were grafted in Jesus Christ had redeemed the world from the curse of the law . Leviticus 26:42-43 42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land. 43 The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes. Land in the Hebrew language ! Transliteration: erets - Part of Speech: Noun Feminine - Phonetic Spelling: eh'-rets - - Usage: X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world. This is referring to the Wilderness World in the nation of Israel Those that are under the law are under the curse if any man be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing and it sounds like you are being deceived under the original law of the Sabbath which represents the circumcision of the flesh. Colossians 2:16-17 King James Version 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Amen 🙏
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
The sabbath was given at creation to all of mankind. It wasn’t brought into existence at the time the 10 Commandments were given at Mount Sinai. It was included in them.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@Charles73358 Sir, thank you for your detailed explanation of the quite commonly understood and believed thought process used to negate and remove the foundational role of the 10 Commandments in the lives of true Christians. There is so much error in this heretical teaching that one pauses with appreciation for having been afforded such a target rich opportunity to speak against it. To thoroughly purge these heretical teachings from one’s theological colon after having such waste baked in and stuck for the better part of 2000 year would take 35 or more pages of small printed text and this is not the environment or platform or “theological diaper” in which to do such a thing. Starting with basics, however, one remembers that Christ was criticizing the Pharisees for the burdens that their man-made laws put on believers and you could find that in Matthew 23 verse four. Years after his conversion, Paul found himself having to confront those with Pharisaical believes who were intended on forcing adherence to traditional “works of law on newly converted Christians. In particular in the churches of Galatia faced this problem. Many scholars have long recognized that Paul’s letter to the Galatians primarily addresses the issue of Judaizers, who wanted Galatian believers to adopt Jewish customs, become circumcised, even follow the traditions of the Pharisees. The Judaizers were attempting to seduce the Galatians into practicing works of law which have nothing to do with the true religion of Moses in the Old Testament. Given the widespread acceptance of the Protestant belief that the law has somehow been nullified by Christ sacrifice, it’s easy to have a mindset that one must choose between ‘Law or Grace’. The correct question to address is the principal that validates true Scriptural understanding and that is one of “law and grace“. The law of God does not violate or abolish the absolute requirement of grace. Having received the gift of God, which is Grace rather than the wages of sin , which is death, there are things we must do and others we must NOT do. We are not as New Testament Christians allowed to live any lifestyle we choose simply because we falsely believe we can throw all of our ongoing sinful behaviors onto Christ forever after baptism, and still be part of the church and enter the kingdom of God, which even to a child should sound illogical. People who do hold fast to these beliefs are very careful to cherry pick Paul’s Scriptures. In particular there is one they would avoid like rat poison and that is when Paul ask the rhetorical question about sinning mightily so grace may abound, precise phrasing attributed to Martin Luther centuries later. See Romans 6:1-2: and then continuing on. When you’re more ready for the Strong meat, you will find the Scriptures on your own where Paul clearly condemns behaviors such as idolatry and ungodly sexual practices as just qualifying people from having access to the kingdom of heaven, which by the way does not mean in heaven. “www.bibleref.com/Romans/6/Romans-6-1.html” Would you let a child run around your house violating everything that’s required for a safe household and stable family?? I think not. Even though this might seem a little bit of a overly scatological image, it did give us an opportunity for me to encourage you and others to explore what is essentially a highly powered relational database on the ucg.org website. For example, here are the link to the question I posed to it in roughly the following words: “are the 10 Commandments done away with” www.ucg.org/search/site/Are%20the%20commandments%20of%20God%20done%20away%20with I’m not sure the pasted version of this and KZbin will actually produce the link necessary to access the results so I encourage all to go right to the website and ask the question on the search bar or the magnifying glass icon. If you do this, you’ll find a lot of interesting media some of which is in video form others in booklets which address and debunk rather thoroughly all of these heretical beliefs that people not necessarily you but many people use so they can live a totally godless lifestyle and at the same time lie to themselves Believing that somehow it won’t matter and they will still have salvation guaranteed to them. This is a particularly toxic, dangerous and ultimately fatal belief system to adopt, so I encourage everyone to take a hard look at it because no matter how well it’s written or using a more acceptable nutritional analogy: “no matter how pretty the cake it might be baked in, arsenic is still going to kill you.” Have a blessed day!
@cantablocal6768
@cantablocal6768 2 ай бұрын
You write a lot, unfortunately for you it is wrong because you are trying to defend the lie that you believe instead of letting scripture explain itself.
@paulkruger1945
@paulkruger1945 2 ай бұрын
I am going to totally disagree with you if you are addressing Christians! The whole Bible is for you, but the WHOLE Bible is NOT TO YOU! 1. Before the Cross Christianty did not exist nor the Gospel of Grace! Jesus in the flesh tells you very plainly who He was sent to! Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:24 & in Matthew 15:26 likens gentiles to dogs who eat the crumbs off the floor! 2. Saul had not had his experience on the road to Damascus and he hadn't yet received the Gospel of Grace to take to the uncircumcised gentiles Acts 28:25-28 or the Mystery Roman's 16:25 the answer to which is in Colossians 1:26-27. 3. The church is NOT a building as we believers are the church! Colossians1:24! 4. Paul makes it quite clear which Gospel he preaches! 1 Corinthians 2:1-5 & in Galatians 1:8-9 tells you want will happen to you if you preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL THAN THE ONE HE PREACHES! Could say a lot more! All scriptures quoted are from the King James Version/New King James Version parallel Bible! Just by the way Christians are ONE IN CHRIST & NOT SPLIT UP INTO A 1000+ "DENOMINATIONS" as we are ONE IN CHRIST! Galatians 3:26-29!
@cantablocal6768
@cantablocal6768 2 ай бұрын
If there was no Grace before the cross how did Adam and Eve stay alive? Titus 2:11 tells us that Grace has always existed and any sensible understanding of it can only mean that Grace has not saved anyone, all it does is give us the opportunity to know, believe and follow Jesus so that we can be saved by Him.
@paulkruger1945
@paulkruger1945 2 ай бұрын
@@cantablocal6768 You obviously didn't understand what I said! 1. Where did I say Grace didn't exist before the Cross? I said the GOSPEL OF GRACE! Before the Crross the Law applied & the sacrifice had to be carried out once a year! Jesus became THE sacrifice after at the Cross once for all times & the Law was replaced fully by the Gospel of Grace! People in "church" still pray the Lord's Prayer & continuesly ask the Lord to "And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors." Matthew 6:12 (KJV). Why do we pray that when Jesus once & for did that on the Cross? You need to brush up on your reasoning ability & please answer Paul's comment in Galatians 1:8-9!
@paulkruger1945
@paulkruger1945 2 ай бұрын
@@cantablocal6768 When you quote the Bible please always give the book you are quoting from aswell as the chapter, verse & version of the Bible & not just the book & the word?
@paulkruger1945
@paulkruger1945 2 ай бұрын
@@cantablocal6768 by the way I have just read Titus 2:11. Let ask you firstly 1. Who wrote the book of Titus? 2. Who was Paul talking to? 3. Where does it say Gra e existed before the Cross as in the sentence Paul says "For the Grace of God that bringeth SALVATION hath appeared to all men"! Suggest you ALWAYS READ THE VERSE BEFORE & AFTER & understand everything in context! So the Crucified Jesus didn't need to give Paul the Gospel of Grace as according to you, Grace's has always existed!!!!
@cantablocal6768
@cantablocal6768 2 ай бұрын
@@paulkruger1945 I think that if I know the verse then others should know it also. Salvation has always been the same, I change not, nothing in the law will change are 2 well known quotes, Heb 11 says the same. Read Ezekiel 36:26-27 and the new covenant promises in Jeremiah and Hebrews also. Mt 7:21-24 along with Paul's warning against the works of the flesh in Galatians 5 are just 2 of many warnings in the NT against breaking the law of God.
@sulongenjop7436
@sulongenjop7436 2 ай бұрын
God the Father created the 7th Day just like He created this world and created Jesus through Mary!!!
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Jesus was not created. He pre-existed with the father as the word and became flesh. He was not created when he became flesh and blood after Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit.
@dlee7631
@dlee7631 2 ай бұрын
John 1:1 and Eph 3:9 disagree with you. The God of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ (Compare Ex 3 with John 8:58 and 1 Cor 10:4).
@sulongenjop7436
@sulongenjop7436 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 Jesus was created by the power of the Holy Ghost to become fetus in Mary's womb and conceived as a baby, created and growing into adult human with fullness of God the Father.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 2 ай бұрын
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below? Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the KZbin videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords - what they don't understand is who the Body is over which He is Head. The Kings and lords that He is King and Lord over are the resurrected saints that slept and were raised with Him Luke 2:34 / Matthew 27:52 The Israel of God is the New Creation in them to which we are added as we come to the faith. He is the Potentate. They are the government.
@ruthsmith3219
@ruthsmith3219 2 ай бұрын
​@@ronnieturner1356 Hardly anybody knows ,that Jesus is the old Testament God Adonis or Yaweh. He is the God in the garden Eden. God is a Family, the Family Name is Elohim.There was God( the Father) and the Word ( he became Jesus) They renewed the desolated Earth Genesis 1:26 It sais ,let US,make Humans ,more than 1 The Holy Spirit is the power of God, not a God.There is no Trinity. The Word gave Adam and Eve the Holy Laws ( the 10 Commandments) They where given to keep for ever. The Sabbath etc. We Christians have to keep them 1 John 2:3-7. 5: 2-4 Luke 16:17
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@ruthsmith3219 The Sabbath was made for man at Creation. It was added to the ten commandments given to Moses. I do not imply that we do not keep the commandments which are to be written on our hearts, but we are not under them if we are born again. we are a New Creation in Christ. They (WCG/UCG) lean heavily on the Commandments. I know the WCG doctrine very well. I was in the WCG for 17 years. They still believe that they are the only church, and they are the firstfruits. They are not the firstfruits of Israel. James said we are a "kind of firstfruits" begotten with the word / the truth. Peter said we have (possess) the firstfruits of the Spirit. This means we are believers who, by faith, believe they are the resurrected firstfruits of the Law. They have been redeemed (Rev 7 and 14) we are waiting for the adoption - the redemption of our body. We who believe will be the next to be resurrected. Rom 8:23. We are added to them by faith in God's work of their redemption. Paul calls them the Commonwealth of Israel and Our twelve tribes. They are the 144ooo Jesus's generation / Rachel's children fully redeemed and completed. They are the Saints that slept. The First Resurrection includes Jesus, the firstborn, the firstfruits He was firstborn of / His Brethren and all believers who believe in Him and them at His Coming. 1 Cor 15. Paul tells us the dead rose and if not Christ did not rise. [Act 13:38-41 KJV] 38 Be it known unto you therefore, men [and] brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: 39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which YOU COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW of Moses. 40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; 41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@SpotterVideo. It seems you have a good knowledge of scripture, not so sure you understand or apply them all correctly. Rather than delve into that, I’m still not sure where you’re coming out on Mr. Shelby‘s questions. Are Christmas and Easter celebrations OK with you yes or no? Is changing the Sabbath or day of worship from Saturday to Sunday OK with you or not? Rather than me repeating all of his questions, why don’t you just amend your interesting study of scriptures and say “here by the way are my answers.”
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 I am not attacking anyone here. I am just sharing the Blessed Hope of the First Resurrection, Those in it are judged and rewarded according to what we do in the Body of Christ which is the Church in heaven. Heb 12:23. The Great White throne Judgment is for all who will be judged according to their own works. I just started here commenting on the Church. I know they teach that they are the only true church (but that is not true) Christmas and Easter are man's holidays which have nothing to do with Christ. The Sabbath was made for man and not the other way around. It was made at Creation and should be kept along with God's Holy Days by all who believe. I am only responding to people who are asking me questions here. I have watched a lot of WCG/UCG videos but not this one yet. I don't have answers, but the scriptures cannot be broken. I believe every word of God. Which scripture have I quoted that you are unsure of?
@KononR-gz4vo
@KononR-gz4vo 2 ай бұрын
🟡 *Helloooo ... There is also no scripture found condemning Sunday observance. Christians for hundreds of years BEFORE Constantine in Rome and Catholic ststements have been keeping Sunday for Holy Communion. They didn't do it on the Sabbath. Besides they didn't want anything to do with their Jewish persecutors.*
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Hi there! There’s also no Scripture commanding Sunday, while there has been one since Genesis on keeping Saturday as holy. Since you seem to want to worship on Sunday you should be happy to learn that the first century church and all the true church groups that follow all of their doctrines do in fact, keep one specific Sunday every year and that is Pentecost as counted 50 days or seven sabbaths of complete weeks starting inclusively on the morning after the Sabbath during the days of unleavened bread so that comes out on one day of the year which is Pentecost and other times during the year when an annual holy day falls on the first day of a week. What’s also of a “big hello” is that there’s no scripture authorizing the weekly day of rest to become Sunday, much less commanding it. You are correct in saying a lot of people before Constantine, we’re keeping Sunday. But they were keeping Sunday instead of keeping Saturday and that started a great big controversy between the Eastern church at the time and the Roman church. If that wasn’t enough fun, the Roman church decided that they would keep Easter and stop keeping Passover and that was more fun between the bishops of the east and the bishops of the west until finally, it got to be a knockdown drag out doctrinal fight, and Constantine finally settled It. Do you think Constantine settled it because he really was such a wonderful guy? I’m not his judge. I do think he was smart enough to realize that Christianity was the only religion that had the possibility of unifying his empire, and therefore his control over that empire. That would only be the case if they stop fighting amongst themselves so, you can look historically they had a conference finally resolved it in favor of the bishop of Rome and Constantine said that it came over anybody who deviates it from it is as good as dead, and some of them were dead as a result. Nothing of any of that justifies suggesting that keeping Sunday is “OK” as a SUBSTITUTE for keeping the Sabbath, or “OK” keeping Easter (a long ago pagan kept holiday.) You can certainly look up the Quartodeciman controversy. This was the argument over “dumping” Passover and adopting Easter and led to or was concurrent to the degree with the argument of shifting from the Sabbath to Sunday. If interested, you can look up the letters between Polycarp and the bishop of Rome, polarities, etc. if you would like further information, go to the United Chirch Of God website and put in keyword/Sunday Easter Passover and you’ll find their literature about it and you’re always invited to contact a United Church Of God minister in your area. You can find a list of UCG congregations near you and you can reach out to one of them and say I’ve got some doctrinal questions. You could say: “I’d like to talk with you as you local congregation seem to meet Within 20 miles of where I live, so why don’t we get a phone call together or maybe a zoom call or meet somewhere for coffee and I can ask you some questions that have been bothering me?” The Sabbath was a commanded weekly holy day from creation and nothing changed about that in spite of all “all laws have been done away with arguments”, ALL of which are scripturally unsound. So what are you really telling us is that you want go worship on Sunday? That’s OK so long as you’re keeping the Sabbath. If you want worship God twice a week I don’t think anybody’s going to try to stop you, if you’ve got time, you can take the Sabbath off to worship God the way He command it and then devote another day to worship God the way you want to hopefully in a way that’s compatible with what He commands with respect to doctrines. So in response to your cherry “hello it’s nice to meet you.”, I hope you’re actually following sound first century Christian church Biblical doctrines the rest of the week, including keeping the weekly holy day known as the Saturday / Sabbath (technically sundown Friday to sundown Saturday) wherever you are. 😊
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Hi there! There’s also no Scripture commanding Sunday, while there has been one since Genesis on keeping Saturday as holy. Since you seem to want to worship on Sunday you should be happy to learn that the first century church and all the true church groups that follow all of their doctrines do in fact, keep one specific Sunday every year and that is Pentecost as counted 50 days or seven sabbaths of complete weeks starting inclusively on the morning after the Sabbath during the days of unleavened bread so that comes out on one day of the year which is Pentecost and other times during the year when an annual holy day falls on the first day of a week. What’s also of a “big hello” is that there’s no scripture authorizing the weekly day of rest to become Sunday, much less commanding it. You are correct in saying a lot of people before Constantine, we’re keeping Sunday. But they were keeping Sunday instead of keeping Saturday and that started a great big controversy between the Eastern church at the time and the Roman church. If that wasn’t enough fun, the Roman church decided that they would keep Easter and stop keeping Passover and that was more fun between the bishops of the east and the bishops of the west until finally, it got to be a knockdown drag out doctrinal fight, and Constantine finally settled It. Do you think Constantine settled it because he really was such a wonderful guy? I’m not his judge yet. I do think he was smart enough to realize that Christianity was the only religion that had the possibility of unifying his empire, and therefore his control over that empire. That would only be the case if they stop fighting amongst themselves so, you can look historically they had a conference finally resolved it in favor of the bishop of Rome and Constantine said that it came over anybody who deviates it from it is as good as dead, and some of them were dead as a result. Nothing of any of that justifies suggesting that keeping Sunday is “OK” as a SUBSTITUTE for keeping the Sabbath, or “OK” keeping Easter (a long ago pagan kept holiday.) You can certainly look up the Quartodeciman controversy. This was the argument over jumping Passover and adopting Easter and led to or was concurrent to the degree with the argument of shifting from the Sabbath to Sunday. If interested, you can look up the letters between Polycarp and the bishop of Rome, polarities, etc. if you would like further information, go to the United Chirch Of God website and put in keyword/Sunday Easter Passover and you’ll find their literature about it and you’re always invited to contact a United Church Of God minister in your area. You can find a list of UCG congregations near you and you can reach out to one of them and say I’ve got some doctrinal questions. You could say: “I’d like to talk with you as you local congregation seem to meet Within 20 miles of where I live, so why don’t we get a phone call together or maybe a zoom call or meet somewhere for coffee and I can ask you some questions that have been bothering me?” The Sabbath was a commanded weekly holy day from creation and nothing changed about that in spite of all “all laws have been done away with arguments”, ALL of which are scripturally unsound. So what are you really telling us is that you want go worship on Sunday? That’s OK so long as you’re keeping the Sabbath. If you want worship God twice a week I don’t think anybody’s going to try to stop you, if you’ve got time, you can take the Sabbath off to worship God the way He command it and then devote another day to worship God the way you want to hopefully in a way that’s compatible with what He commands with respect to doctrines. So in response to your cherry “hello it’s nice to meet you.”, I hope you’re actually following sound first century Christian church Biblical doctrines the rest of the week, including keeping the weekly holy day known as the Saturday / Sabbath (technically sundown Friday to sundown Saturday) wherever you are. 😊
@KononR-gz4vo
@KononR-gz4vo 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 - I think Sunday observance is an Apostolic command. #1. If the church is commanded by Paul to assemble; and, #2. If the only memorial meal of which the church is commanded to partake when assembled is the Lord's Supper; and, #3. If the specified day on which the church partook of the Lord's Supper memorial meal was the first day of the week; then #4. Christians are to come together every first day of the week to partake of the Lord's Supper memorial meal.
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
@@KononR-gz4vo yeah it’s a big “if” and all they were doing was getting together and having food there’s no commandment for a weekly communion communion was a term of getting together. What is commanded is a memorial service once a year commemorating Christ death and was often as you do that you do within remembrance of him, but you do it once a year so you like every Catholic and Protestant are totally getting the point wrong about what that was. It wasn’t a communion service even though it was on the first day of the week you have to find something that happened on the first day of the week it could’ve been a freaking barbecue and you would call it justification for keeping weekly or monthly communion, using bread and wine. Totally unjustifiable by scripture alone
@KononR-gz4vo
@KononR-gz4vo 2 ай бұрын
@@e.richardscholz2338 - Consider these details for the above pointers listed: Pointer #1. The church is commanded by Paul to assemble. 1 Corinthians 11:17-18 Hebrews 10:25 1 Corinthians 14:26 1 Corinthians 14:23 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 Pointer #2. The only memorial meal of which the church is commanded to partake when assembled is the Lord's Supper. 1 Corinthians 11:17-34 - - - NOTE: THE SPECIFIC DAY RULE * When God commanded a memorial (meal/feast) to be done yearly, He revealed the specific day of a specific month (e.g. Leviticus 23:5). * When God commanded a memorial (meal/feast) to be done monthly, He revealed the specific day of the month, but no specific month (e.g. Numbers 28:14; Numbers 29:6). * When God commanded a memorial (meal/feast) to be done weekly, He revealed the specific day of the week (e.g., Exodus 20:8-11). Hence - (a) A commanded memorial meal necessitates a specific day on which to partake. Paul's words, "the rest will I SET IN ORDER when I come" (1 Corinthians 11:34). (b) Christians are commanded by Paul to partake of a memorial meal (1 Corinthians 11:23-34); and, (c) Therefore, Christians are commanded to partake of the Lord's Supper ON A SPECIFIC DAY. IT MUST BE A SPECIFIED "DAY" ** There is no specific day of a specific month revealed to Christians in the New Covenant Law. Therefore, the assembled church is not to partake of the Lord's Supper yearly. ** There is no specific day in a month revealed to Christians in the New Covenant Law. Therefore, the assembled church is not to partake of the Lord's Supper monthly. ** There IS a specific day of the week revealed to Christians in the New Covenant Law. Therefore, the assembled church is to partake of the Lord's Supper weekly. - - - Pointer #3. The specified day on which the church partook of the Lord's Supper memorial meal was the first day of the week. 1 Corinthians 10:15-16; and, Acts 20:7 * In Corinthians 16:1-2, Paul instructs the Church to gather on the first day for collections. Most naturally, seeing the great significance of Sunday, it was the day they gathered for worship (breaking bread) as well. *It can be argued that the "breaking of bread" is just an expression for having a meal. Example is in the feeding of the crowds in Matthew 15:36. But in 1 Corinthians 10:15-16 we see Paul associating the breaking of bread with Holy Communion. *THE KEY TAKE AWAY PASSAGE SUPPORTING SUNDAY OBSERVANCE AND ITS ASSEMBLY FOR HOLY COMMUNION IS FOUND IN Acts 20:7, which states, *"And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."* Acts 20:7 is the ONLY text in the entire New Testament where the day on which a specific Christian worship service is held is actually named. Other texts might mention the day of the week, but they don’t state that a Christian worship service was held on that day. Yet other texts might mention a Christian worship service, but are not linked to a specific day of the week. Acts 20:7 is the only passage in the Bible that puts the two together in one passage... Pointer #4. In sum - TO ATTACK SUNDAY WORSHIP IS TO ATTACK THE MEMORIAL FEAST OF THE LORD'S SUPPER FOR OUR SALVATION. The church is commanded to assemble, and the only memorial meal of which the church is commanded to partake when assembled is the Lord's Supper, and the specified day on which the church partook of the Lord's Supper memorial meal was the first day of the week. Therefore, Christians are to come together every first day of the week to partake of the Lord's Supper memorial meal.
@bobbybailey4623
@bobbybailey4623 2 ай бұрын
There is not nor can there ever be a true church.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
There is an ecclesia which Jesus was raised out of and who were raised with Jesus. He took His church out of the earth. He sent His Spirit to seal all who believe His work at the cross. They are coming back to inherit their Promises. Believers are co heirs with them.
@bobbybailey4623
@bobbybailey4623 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 that would make Jesus a liar. By his own words he only came for his family (the lost sheep of the house of Israel). Israel was just a family of twelve sons. He had no interest in dogs.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@bobbybailey4623 The children killed and resurrected with Him are the lineage of Abraham Isaac and Jacob They are Rachel's Children. Israel is Jacob. Rachel is his First Love. They are family
@bobbybailey4623
@bobbybailey4623 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 what you are saying makes no sense and doesn’t change my comment at all. The god of the Old Testament is a cruel taskmaster who shows no love only vengeance.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@bobbybailey4623 Not my problem that you hate God. Take it up with Him.
@nathannewell5512
@nathannewell5512 2 ай бұрын
There are other fellowships who keep more of the whole Bible than does the UCOG. They wear tzits tzits, as is commanded in the Scriptures.
@alejandroumaslay3657
@alejandroumaslay3657 2 ай бұрын
UCOG that was founded in 1995 ?
@darrinwatts9979
@darrinwatts9979 2 ай бұрын
I've never seen any members wearing Tzit tzits. That's the Hebrew Roots Movement or Psalm 119 ministries which also make money off merchandise so I don't know the minor differences but isn't he bottom line keeping the Sabbaths ,10 commandments, holy days and food laws ??
@jeepjason94
@jeepjason94 2 ай бұрын
Is salvation based on wearing tassels?
@nathannewell5512
@nathannewell5512 2 ай бұрын
@jeepjason94 No, neither is keeping the other laws. The point is, you can't pick and choose which one of GOD's law you keep. We are to obey GOD's way, not our own.
@nathannewell5512
@nathannewell5512 2 ай бұрын
@darrinwatts9979 I don't understand why people would pick and choose what to obey and what not to obey. I personally believe those who love YHWH should serve Him the way He wants, not the way we want.
@Charles73358
@Charles73358 2 ай бұрын
Evidently you are not using spiritual significance of the scriptures to understand God's Word I given proof of scriptures in my previous comment so I will assume that you do not understand the commandments of God written on dead stone that didn't have any spiritual where withal which was only a shadow until the fulfillment of the Messiah Jesus Christ now Jesus is our Sabbath which abides on the inside of the believer we are the Tabernacle of God not made by hands to have to be in church a certain day which was under the circumcision of the flesh for if any man be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing. Amen 🙏
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
Unless you are added to / grafted into the CHURCH of the FIRSTBORN written in Heaven Heb 12:23 you are NOT in the TRUE CHURCH. God did not just raise the Head of the Church and leave the Body behind to divide and quarrel endlessly into 2oo denominations and cults! He raised both the Bridegroon and the Bride. He raised Jesus out of the dead and then raised the Dead with Him. The next group to be resurrected will be the believers who are His at His Coming with THEM! 1 Cor 15
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelTheophilus906 One is one too many
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelTheophilus906 I have read as many as 46k
@ruthsmith3219
@ruthsmith3219 2 ай бұрын
It gives only 1 true Ecclesia.The sign is : The SABBATH. A small Church, Luke 12:32
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@ruthsmith3219 A small group of disciples. Luke 12:22 Jesus is addressing disciples. The ecclesia is the resurrected firstfruits, the 144ooo. The Sabbath is a perpetual sign throughout generations. Their resurrection is a miracle sign of God's Work which has been spoken against since the first century. Luke 2:34
@e.richardscholz2338
@e.richardscholz2338 2 ай бұрын
Nothing at all in first Corinthians 15 says that all the dead at the time he was risen himself were resurrected at that time. He is called first of the firstfruits for a reason because he was the first fruit of the resurrection that was promised. those that are going to be raised next are those that are his that is coming. The obvious question is what about everybody else and it certainly is an answered, and first Corinthians specifically it needs to be understood by looking at the holy days given by the God of the Old Testament, who calls the festivals my festivals, and not just a few people understand that the god of the Old Testament Who walked with Israel was the pre-incarnate Christ so the holy days that the God of the Old Testament calls, my festivals include not only the weekly sabbath, but the annual sabbath and the holy days throughout the year The festivals of ancient Israel pictured this. he was the wave sheaf offering the first of the first fruits of the harvest. the entire harvest was not waived before God on the morning after the sabbath during the days of unleavened bread; it was the best representation of the spring harvest. And the logical extension is there was a later greater harvest it in Israel as You could see that the imagery is very clear of the holy days and the plan of salvation. It’s multi stage and you certainly do not see any specific reference in first Corinthians 15 that all of the dead who were righteous and were dead at the time of His crucfiction in Christ arose with him at the time he arose from the dead After three days and three nights of having been in the grave following his death by crucifixion. If you think otherwise please show it specifically because it’s not in first Corinthians 15, anywhere
@danaceecasper2821
@danaceecasper2821 2 ай бұрын
GOD DID NOT CREAT THE EARTH THROUGH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST! GOD CREATED THE EARTH COMPLETELY ON HIS OWN! BY SAYING OTHERWISE, THIS TEACHING BECAME BLASTPHEMY!
@murtlandjardine8716
@murtlandjardine8716 2 ай бұрын
PLEASE READ JOHN 1:1-3.
@Foxpax
@Foxpax 2 ай бұрын
Please also read Col 1:16
@starmlsllspppappwjoopzpspe5374
@starmlsllspppappwjoopzpspe5374 2 ай бұрын
Er sorry sir Jesus has been given all authority on behalf of the Father including creative power. Thus Jesus the lord of the sabbath
@billwassner1433
@billwassner1433 2 ай бұрын
"... God, who created all things by Jesus Christ" (Eph.3:9 KJV).
@MichaelTheophilus906
@MichaelTheophilus906 2 ай бұрын
@@billwassner1433 "God, who created all things." LSB "God, who created all things." ESV "God, who created all things." NIV etc, etc, etc. "In the beginning God created all things." Genesis 1:1
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
Unless you are added to / grafted into the CHURCH of the FIRSTBORN written in Heaven Heb 12:23 you are NOT in the TRUE CHURCH. The True Ecclesia/church is the ones God raised with Christ. They are the Body over which He is Head. They are the Body prepared for Him from the beginning (firstfruits Gen 1:1) They are the Firstfruits who "were redeemed" (Rev 14:4) They are the firstfruits of Israel under the Law - the New Creation. Believers today are added to them by faith in the Gospel (His works of Grace in Redeeming them. Believers by faith are the Firstfruits of the Spirit sent at Pentecost. They are the Church Jesus said that the gates of the grave (tombs) would not prevail against. The gates did not prevail as they were raised with Christ (Matthew 27:52-53) fulfilling Luke 2:34-35. Man cannot start a church. Man cannot build or grow a church. Man cannot NAME a church - not even a seemingly biblical name such as "Church of God". Man cannot even GO TO CHURCH! Man can be grafted into the Body and can assemble before Christ and His Brethren. Jesus did not start a cult body called the "Church of God" He started a New Creation in Christ which has been spoken against as Simeon foretold in Luke 2:34-35 since the first century. WCG must either explain Luke 2:34 publically or tear Luke 2:34 from the scriptures along with Matthew 27:52-53. Only the Ones who are added to the True Church in Heaven (Heb 12:23) will be redeemed at their coming with Him. This is the Mystery Fellowship Paul preached to the Gentiles in Eph 3:8-9. Shalom!
@darrinwatts9979
@darrinwatts9979 2 ай бұрын
We all know what 2nd Peter 3:14-16 says about understanding the apostle Paul. I don't know of any other church that's preaching it as accurately as UCG and Beyond Today. When it comes to covering all subjects they have it. Even as far as scientific, geographic, biblical, archaeological and every other area I see including being non profit, I don't see where anyone would consider this UCG a "cult" in any way. How else can you interpret the main message of the bible which is the coming kingdom of God ?? Keeping of the Sabbath and 10 commandments, food laws and holy days ? I'm not sure how I could see UCG having it all wrong.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@darrinwatts9979 I have just witnessed the truth to you and God has witnessed this witness. All man led churches are in heresy. They deny the One Redeemer as Peter tells us in 2 Peter 2:1 - The One Christ (Husband) who Redeemed the firstfruits (the Bride). The Coming Kingdom of God is THEM! It is simple when you see what Jeremiah (and others revealed) Jer 31:15-17 prophesies their death, resurrection and return with Christ. Simeon prophesied their resurrection in Luke 2:34-35. This Resurrection of Many in Israel was fulfilled in Matthew 27:52-53. Just as Simeon says this resurrection is a miracle sign which is spoken against even to this day. May God grant you wisdom to see.
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@darrinwatts9979 Any group who does not recognize and explain Matthew 27:52-53 resurrection has it all wrong, for this is the very heart of the one gospel. This is the one faith. Father God sent His Son to buy back / redeem the Lost sheep of the House of Israel. Jesus was raised by the Father out of the Dead. These are the Dead. They cannot be left out of the gospel message. They are the Blessed Hope. Without them in the message, anyone who preaches Jesus's resurrection is preaching "another Jesus" no matter how right they have everything else! Paul said that if they did not rise then Jesus did not rise either. Your preaching is vain!
@ronnieturner1356
@ronnieturner1356 2 ай бұрын
@@darrinwatts9979 Difficult to understand Paul, but not impossible. With God, ALL things are possible even understanding the Mystery Paul taught the Gentiles.
@darrinwatts9979
@darrinwatts9979 2 ай бұрын
@@ronnieturner1356 I've heard UCG explain practically EVERY bit of scripture through their free literature and bible study aids. Seem to be fully aware of all resurrections and teach about each and every one. Not sure how long you've been knowing about UCG but I turn to them for everything bible related to gain knowledge about every subject taught. Not sure what your specific point is about Matthew 27:52-53. You saying someone other than Jesus has been risen ?
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