Are your woodworking tools TOO SHARP? (How to use just one stone)

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Stumpy Nubs

Stumpy Nubs

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@negotiableaffections
@negotiableaffections 6 жыл бұрын
My hobby is woodworking, not knife sharpening - thanks for bringing common sense back to workshop.
@d.k.1394
@d.k.1394 6 жыл бұрын
me too
@d.k.1394
@d.k.1394 6 жыл бұрын
proper tool sharpening is its own skilled trade...i am a woodworker,,,not a specialised tool sharpener
@heruhcanedean
@heruhcanedean 6 жыл бұрын
My hobby is knife making and I only have 3 stones. Skinning out 2 elk without a sharpen is a better test than giving your arm a bald spot, but that's just my opinion.
@spikebaltar5071
@spikebaltar5071 6 жыл бұрын
What is a true craftmen if one cannot sharp a blade? If you can work a chisel/planning block, then surely you can sharpen a blade. The back and forth motion is very similar.
@d.k.1394
@d.k.1394 6 жыл бұрын
i buy new sharp things if i need them sharp
@dennisgonyier9542
@dennisgonyier9542 4 жыл бұрын
When diamond sharpening stones first appeared I bought a 600 grit and retired my India and natural stones. Could go straight from 600 grit to a strop (10” power strop when not on the road) for all of my woodcarving gouges, knives and “v” tools. I have the Trend 350/1000 and have used it the last few years. Tools are sharp and handle detail in Basswood that many fellow carvers can’t unless I sharpen their tools. On the other hand my plane blades go from the Trend 1000 to a 16000 Sharpton without stropping afterwards. Learned this watching Rob Cosman and my plane blades only take a couple minutes to sharpen.
@darenfitzpatrick1270
@darenfitzpatrick1270 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reasonable advice. I'd rather spend my time cutting than sharpening. But I'd rather sharpen than sand.
@mergrew0110
@mergrew0110 6 жыл бұрын
Watching sharpening videos is a bit like watching formula one racing, you enjoy the action, then get into your Ford and drive home happy. For me, stropping makes a huge difference.
@greggiono8789
@greggiono8789 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sticking up for us the little guys
@daveanderson119
@daveanderson119 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My dad, a woodworker by profession his entire life, only used fairly inexpensive double sided stones on everything. His planes and tools worked perfectly. He was an "old-timey" guy who would agree wholeheartedly with you about this. I still like to go to my waterstones sometimes, but have enough to do without spending that kind of time on all my tools.
@Michael-yt3wz
@Michael-yt3wz 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this exact setup after watching this video and couldn't be happier. Simple and sharp. Most projects just require me to strop a couple of times and not even go back to the stone once sharpened.
@kazinix
@kazinix 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! This confirms my theory that you don't need a lot of stones when sharpening tools. I love efficiency. I will proceed with my plan for 400/1000 double sided diamond stone, a leather strap and sharpening compound. Oh! I will buy two identical diamond stones and flip them both when I'm old.
@TaylerMade
@TaylerMade 6 жыл бұрын
when i trained as a cabinet maker all we had were 2 sided oil stones and we were expected to get a decent edge with that. well i can honestly say that never had any problems doing what was required with blades sharpened that way. like you though i have moved to diamond stones and would never bother again with oil or water stones. all the hassle to maintain them is time you are not earning money.
@d.k.1394
@d.k.1394 6 жыл бұрын
i agree...i aint not wasting a minute of my wood work time trying to flatten a stone!!!! diamond rooles
@richardphelps7301
@richardphelps7301 5 жыл бұрын
Tayler Made, was the stones you used any finer than an Arkansas stone or 400-600 grit? I use a couple different techniques depending on the state of the tool, I’ve inherited chisels that were so far gone and left for dead I had to begin with 80 grit 3M sanding disks and worked my way to 400 grit with honing oil and finished with a Smith brand double sided diamond sharpener. I think the fine side is equal to 1000 or more grit. I’m still very new woodworking, any tips for me?
@russellbraeuer2512
@russellbraeuer2512 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing intimidates me more than a sharp chisel. Wood is in the vise before I pick that chisel up. I’m happy with the exact method you use myself. It’s plenty sharp.
@drice847
@drice847 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a Shapton stone guy, have been for years. If I was a new woodworker and was looking for a great way to sharpen, I think these big diamond stones are the way to go. like anything else its an investment and you just need to find what you like and stick with it. Nice video James.
@RonaldJS
@RonaldJS 6 жыл бұрын
There are woodworkers that actually make things and those that that just own tools and endlessly organize them and sharpen them. Good practical advice for those that work in wood to get things done.
@matthewpotter1933
@matthewpotter1933 6 жыл бұрын
I love working with wood, for many reasons, but I don't make a living by doing it. It has been my observation that woodworking videos tend to the more complicated side, somehow making it seem that more complication is better. Same with sharpening. I watched a video of a woodworker I really like as he sharpened his tools using 4 or 5 different stones, with various amounts of set-up and maintenance. Too much. Made me want to either send out my tools for sharpening, or just buy cheap ones and toss them out when they get dull. I don't have time for hours of honing. Thank you for simplifying this mysterious procedure, making it easy for even a guy like me to understand.
@budlatta9678
@budlatta9678 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! As I learn my way in this hobby, I have been daunted by some of the stuff I’ve read and watched describing the need to work through a progression of stones to achieve the “crazy sharp” result. I didn’t start this to spend all my time sharpening stuff! I’ve settled on your approach here - and it is efficient and entirely sufficient.
@emilkvicktube
@emilkvicktube 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you again, you are truly the best teacher out there.
@frankolinde3747
@frankolinde3747 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice. My woodworking hobby took a 10 year break while my wife and I rehabbed a 100 year old house (learned more about plaster than I ever wanted to know). Anyway, when I began my break all the articles and ads were saying "if you don't sharpen to 4K grit then you are unworthy". Just got back to hobby woodworking 2 years ago, and guess what? "If you don't sharpen to 15k, then you are unworthy!!!" If I take another break the ads probably will jack it up to 50k.
@philipbyrnes7501
@philipbyrnes7501 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind reply James and I agree with your answer completely. Having spent part of a wakeful night thinking further on the topic I have remembered this morning that, I think, one of the problems that he talked about was particles of diamond de-bonding and them becoming embedded into the steel that is being sharpened. At a Japanese tool course I attended recently where we built our own wooden Japanese plane this was also discussed and a number of the staff showed us high quality, and very expensive, diamond plates that they had owned for a number of years that were markedly smoother down the centre than the edges which tended to back up a little of what Mr Tesolin had said. Anyway, thank you for the kind reply, take care mate, see ya
@marcengall698
@marcengall698 6 жыл бұрын
Great wisdom Stumps ! Working as a finish carpenter for thirty odd years ,this is exactly how I was taught on a double sided “India “oil stone , 200/400 . Now I use the same diamond stone as you have there with no messy oil and no figure of 8 , worrying about an uneven stone
@iotaje1
@iotaje1 6 жыл бұрын
I did buy a number of sharpening stones in the past, and the result was that sharpening became a drudgery. Having to go trought 5 different stones with every blunt tool takes a while for hardly noticeable results. Old timers here in Europe generally used a large sandstone wheel for grinding and a medium fine natural stone for honing. A trick I picked up from Bill carter's videos is to use your hand as a strop. As you're working with your fine stone, your hand is stained with the fine abrasive particles, and lightly dragging the tool a few times on the meaty part of your palm efectively polishes it. So now I've got a bunch of stones laying around, only two being used, and my tools cut better than ever.
@bellybutthole69
@bellybutthole69 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pas 30 years old and just starting wood working , and that's the most excited I've been about a hobby since forever haha. Thanks for video like this James, it makes it way easier to get the hang of it all !
@ats1995
@ats1995 5 жыл бұрын
Fixing up some old tools from my dad I've only bothered with 400 grit sandpaper. It's done wonders for never before sharpened tools
@jamesneylon7335
@jamesneylon7335 6 жыл бұрын
I have been a cabinetmaker for 15yrs, I agree with you completely.
@rml015
@rml015 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this. I'm a weekend hobbyist, and I can get my chisels plenty sharp to clean up dovetails, corners, and other waste with a single two-sided diamond stone.
@TimRoyalPastortim
@TimRoyalPastortim 6 жыл бұрын
I use my old Norton combo oil stone and a strop. Frankly it just works fantastic.
@friendlypiranha774
@friendlypiranha774 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Stumpy Nubs, your advice is always good, solid, back to basics and practical. Thank you for all your efforts.
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith 6 жыл бұрын
yes, thank you for bringing some common sense and plain language back to tool sharpening. this is a great video for the majority of people
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith 6 жыл бұрын
also thanks for the excellent and realistic historical perspective on the use of natural stones
@bradsnyder8350
@bradsnyder8350 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, I wish I had seen it last week. I am a fresh beginner woodworker, and just purchased some chisels for my first dovetail exploration. Last week, when I started looking for sharpening information, I was shocked and confused by the multiple detailed lengthy videos and the recommended investment in multiple stones. For a novice this all seemed excessive, intimidating and confusing. I almost just gave up on the whole idea. After sorting through multiple videos I ordered a 400/100 diamond stone and a honing guide. After watching your video, I might add a leather strop. Thanks again for the common sense approach!
@lukewarmwater6412
@lukewarmwater6412 6 жыл бұрын
I never use a hammer to hit a chisel with. many people think that is insane. I bump a chisel with the heel of my hand or a wood block( I dont have a mallet or whatever those chisel bumping tools are called) and I use an arkansa stone. one day at work I sharpened a kids chisel.... then he cut himself with it. razor sharp doesnt last as long as 'realy sharp' , like you said....the polish is good, no friction. but the edge doesnt need to be razor sharp to not tear wood.. I like your channel. you know what you are doing and communicate well. better than I do, nice work. I can respect that.
@hotrodhog2170
@hotrodhog2170 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks James! Finally somebody has said it! I go to 600 grit wet dry automotive sandpaper and that's it. Works for me just fine. on the other hand my Dad goes with one of those fancy shmancy japanese wet wheel polishing deals. Every once in a while the wife yells at me in the morning for sharpening my pocket knife on the bottom of a ceramic coffee cup Lol. You should try that sometime! (wink wink)
@simonhopkins3867
@simonhopkins3867 6 жыл бұрын
Ken Paschall I like that 1. Thanks
@nikburton9264
@nikburton9264 6 жыл бұрын
We use to use a boiler Gage glass when I was in the Navy. Better than a ceramic dowel.
@jameslawrence8734
@jameslawrence8734 6 жыл бұрын
shit, shower, sleep, shave?
@brucewelty7684
@brucewelty7684 5 жыл бұрын
I had a really nice 12x12 granite floor tile. Polished! Used sandpaper 4 bucks for the tile. squirted the paper with Windex (or something a bit better smelling.) I have to replace the tile. Someone when I was moving last year appropriated my tile.
@superglue46
@superglue46 6 жыл бұрын
I am repeatedly pleased by the reality checks that you bring to the conversation. Sometimes I almost feel a embarrassed when the topic of sharpening comes up with folks I chat with and they're talking about their large fancy stone collections 30k grit Japanese stone that cost more than gold by weight that all have their own little tupperware containers and aquarium pumps for the water, yada yada. Here I am sharpening my planes and chisels with 220 and 400 grit Gator Grit spray-glued to a scrap piece of granite counter top. I dunno, works fine for me, and I get very good results on all but heavily figured woods or end grain of really soft woods. Like Keith Stewart said, my hobby is woodworking, no knife sharpening. Similarly, my hobby is woodworking, not geology. I'm gonna have to give stropping a try.
@jumbo4billion
@jumbo4billion 6 жыл бұрын
Braden Archer I use a kitchen worktop offcut with strips of hard leather and suede. Bit of honing compound and you're done. Stropping is easy, fast and miraculous. You'll wish you did it years ago. How's that for a sales pitch?
@fredrik.larsen
@fredrik.larsen 6 жыл бұрын
I bought this diamond plate on your recommendation and I absolutely love it! I must note that the strop, with some chromium oxide, is what gave me the hair cutting edge. Awesome! Thank you again for sharing all these videos. Regards, Fredrik
@monsteramn88
@monsteramn88 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share and expand minds. Keep your nubs reasonably stumpy!
@bfflorida2311
@bfflorida2311 6 жыл бұрын
One area that was left out and I think is very important with this topic... Technique... very good technique and experience will make any woodworking tool sharp even with only these two grids or as many you wish ... Without good technique it will be another disappointed moment .... While back, when I first started to make custom knives, I bought many stones.. I spent hours and hours trying to make it sharp and nothing... I finally spend time to educate myself and understand required techniques. With little practice I was getting edge so sharp that I didn't believe it was done by me...
@schmalzilla1985
@schmalzilla1985 4 жыл бұрын
"Take a chill pill, and just do it." The most important part of your video, i got.
@yikesjason
@yikesjason 6 жыл бұрын
I like it. I am starting to settle into the mindset that I don’t have to go to the extreme like som many others are going to. Thank you for your regular reality checks.
@MJFacas
@MJFacas 6 жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up on the Trend diamond stones.
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 6 жыл бұрын
What's correct is what works. I go up to 2000 grit then strop, but only use course grains when honing, which almost never have to do unless it's dropped or a brand new chisel. I like super sharp because when I work cherry, it has weird grain properties that even when going with the grain you still end up tearing through and digging in. So I can take smaller slices with less effort. I think its the small pore size which is why i can use a less precise edge on oak or walnut, but im not sure to be honest. Haven't heard of anyone else having the same problem.
@bigwillydier
@bigwillydier 5 жыл бұрын
Starting to use a leather strop with some honing compound is the greatest thing I ever did for my sharpening routine.. which is barely a routine because I can keep blades deadly sharp if I frequently maintain the cutting edge with the strop..
@Woodgate425
@Woodgate425 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice as usually James but can add just one thing that is so important no matter what end of the sharpening scale you are on and that is to start with a flat back on the chisel or plane iron first. Whether you use 1,000 or 20,000 grit, neither will be sharp without that flat back and best of it is, you only need to do it once! It doesn’t need to be polished, just flat.
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 3 жыл бұрын
Two-sided stones are synthetic stones. They are often called India stones. My dad taught me to sharpen knives on one. I have the luxury of using what I like in the way of stones, and I can't confess to preference. Sharpening can serve different purposes. The chief is always getting a tool "sharp enough." But the other is taking a break and thinking. So, I use what I think serves my particular purpose. In a real hurry with an edge that seems sound I go straight to the strop. That often seems to work several times before I need to get a stone of any kind out.
@markbryan9989
@markbryan9989 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks James! This is an area that I have been a bit ignorant on. Not anymore thanks to you. Love you videos. Straightforward and unpretentious. Keep up the good work.
@Barronvoncrash
@Barronvoncrash 6 жыл бұрын
I use one of those Trend diamond stones just like that and then skip straight to a Norton 8000 grit water stone and in 2 or 3 minutes I can shave with whatever it is I'm sharpening, and that same Trend stone works great for keeping the Norton flat.
@PSCThrillSeeker
@PSCThrillSeeker 6 жыл бұрын
James, I with Keith Stewart could have said it better myself, great vlogs and has Keith said your bring back common sense back into woodworking
@FearsomeWarrior
@FearsomeWarrior 6 жыл бұрын
Curious if you'd do a real time video sharpening a dovetail saw and another of any other larger tooth saw. Panel or Caracas/tenon saw.
@SPUDMACKER
@SPUDMACKER 6 жыл бұрын
James Thank you! You have tought me how to finally get sharp tools that work behond expectations. You've changed my life.
@imortaldeadead
@imortaldeadead 6 жыл бұрын
This just goes to show that leather and diamonds 💎 can be a woodworkers best friend, when treated right
@lightbulb68
@lightbulb68 6 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos. This video was really close to me. I am using the same system on a diamond stone 400/600 and leather strops. I’m using the green compound on my leather strop. The results that I’m getting for my hand planes are beautiful. I just need to improve my woodworking techniques and my workWill be a joy.
@cobberpete1
@cobberpete1 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks James. I'm a weekend worrier and follow the Paul Sellers system. A couple of stones and a strop do it for me. I say a couple because I'm lazy and have the same style double sided stone. One course up and one fine up on a piece of board.
@ThePhilGrimm
@ThePhilGrimm 6 жыл бұрын
I have to assume you were referring to Paul Sellers and I remember the reaction from Rob Cosman! They were both right, and you understand it. Thanks Stumpy.
@keats182
@keats182 6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing there was a lot of...um...discussion on Cosman's video because he disabled comments on that one.
@mildyproductive9726
@mildyproductive9726 6 жыл бұрын
I remember that one. I wondered what difference it made after he applied the finish, lol. In his defense, he used 1K diamond and 15K waterstone. Stumpy is demonstrating 1K diamond and a strop. This is pretty much the same thing. 15K JIS stone is about same as a chrome ox strop, and in both cases this fine a finisher is useful to remove the burr without much fuss.
@escalator9734
@escalator9734 6 жыл бұрын
What was Cosman's reaction ?
@mildyproductive9726
@mildyproductive9726 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYi7Y6ioqL2Zp9k This is the vid I was thinking of. It's just different definitions of sharpening. He doesn't use a strop after either, so of course there's the kind of schmoo on the edge right off the 1K plate which could have been greatly improved with minimal time/effort. OTOH, someone like Outdoor55 claims to get hair splitting sharp with "just" a 220 grit stone. But then he strops for an hour on a giant pasted strop. It's all sharpening, folks. IMO, Cosman's technique is super efficient and it's great that he shares it. But he opened up a can of worms just with the title.
@ThePhilGrimm
@ThePhilGrimm 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. But the strop is way cheaper than a 16,000 grit Shapton waterstone
@nikburton9264
@nikburton9264 6 жыл бұрын
great video, and informative. I have a trend 300/1000 and find it works quite well. I have a few other stones that I picked up at auctions and the like, and a 3 sided one I accuired when I was in the Navy. The trend is usually Al! I need for chisels and such.
@sebuteo
@sebuteo 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice for the cash-challenged weekend woodworker like me. Thanks! (PS I love the historical awareness)
@W1ldt1m
@W1ldt1m 6 жыл бұрын
I've got my grandpa's only stone. It's a fine India, way way dished. It's the finest he had so he kept it well protected in a wooden box. It served him professionally for years.
@sidneyeaston6927
@sidneyeaston6927 4 жыл бұрын
Forget strops and pastes, you will not get a finish any better than an old piece of slate with water on it. You can still get purpose made slate sharpening stones they sell under the name Dragon Stones. Old roofing slate works a treat.
@B0M0A0K
@B0M0A0K 6 жыл бұрын
Well done James. Great video and good old common sense. This is why I am a subscriber.
@theotherrevtx
@theotherrevtx 5 жыл бұрын
I've taken 3 classes from Lonnie Bird, and I use his sharpening system. It's fast, repeatable and effective. Lonnie's philosophy is "I don't get paid to sharpen tools. i get paid to make furniture." Good comments.
@PlasmaHH
@PlasmaHH 6 жыл бұрын
(Numbers are for illustration purposes only and do not reflect real life measurements). Lets say you sharpen the best you can and want to cut 100 times, and then its too dull for your taste. Now you do the working up til its sharp enough through say, 5 steps. However the linearity does not line up. After step 1, you have the same sharpness as after 20 cuts, then at step 3 the same after 10 cuts and the difference between sharpening step 4 and 5 was removed in just 3 cuts. Here you can save 4 steps but have to resharpen every 80 cuts. Adjust this to your taste, the material and circumstances you do things with, and it doesn't need to be that sharp, however I find that for some occasions being 10000 grit sharp is quite handy and because I can and have other things to sharpen I do have up to 8000 grit stones and usually the default "sharp enough" is achieved with 3000. And while I do like the leather strip thing (or similar ones) for knifes, I don't like it for chisels. But its up to what you can and want to work with.
@rogerrion5645
@rogerrion5645 6 жыл бұрын
You do not know how much this is appreciated. KISS
@tomfrymire2361
@tomfrymire2361 6 жыл бұрын
Good info and even better timing. Rookie woodworker for about a year and starting now think I have a few tools that need sharpening. But I wish a pro will address woodworking tools and kitchen knives; that is what is the optimal, value-wise, setup to address both?
@mildyproductive9726
@mildyproductive9726 6 жыл бұрын
ANSI != JIS People think Diamond and Waterstone are higher for the same reason Spinal Tap makes their volume knob go to 11. Grandpappy's 400 grit stone was about the same thing as your 1K diamond plate. Then he wiped the burr off on his boot. If you want to use Grandpappy's 250/400 grit stone, they still sell it. That would be Norton Combo, coarse and fine India. After stropping on leather you will shave your hair off just fine; even if that doesn't impress anyone. John Heisz uses this stone for his chisels, knives, and planes. Works just fine. I use it, too. But instead of a strop, I often use a lil piece of fine stone for the debur. Because it's more convenient to me than a large piece of leather or a huge wood block strop full o metal and grease. Tomato, tomato.
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 6 жыл бұрын
Mildy Productive I also use the double sided india stone. With that and a strop, I can be back to working wood in less than 2 minutes.
@richardphelps7301
@richardphelps7301 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I’m spending way too much time sharpening and not enough time cutting and planing.
@andyd.1793
@andyd.1793 6 жыл бұрын
great video, I am really pleased with the results I get from my diamond stone and strop as well. I like how you're keepin' it practical and tactical✊
@philipbyrnes7501
@philipbyrnes7501 6 жыл бұрын
Another helpful and useful video James, thank you for your time and effort. I apologise beforehand for the noise I’m about to cause, not meaning to create dissension but am truly interested in your opinion and certainly not meaning to offend you as you’re like my little Canadian woodwork Yoda lol and I greatly appreciate all that I have learnt from you but . . . . Lol, a couple of years ago, 2016 I think, Vic Tesolin from Veritas came down here to Australia and did a city by city Veritas tour and I think he, they, were spruiking both a new narrow blade head for their chisel honing guide and mainly their new range of chisels and plane blades made from their new PMV-11 steel. We sat through an interesting couple of hours of all things Veritas when he stunned us all by saying that he, as their expert, and the Veritas company most adamantly stand on saying that the worst thing you can ever use on a chisel or plane blade is a diamond stone of any kind. He was adamant they are very damaging not just to their new steel but to any quality blade by any manufacturer. When questioned by audience members he threw out a lot of facts and figures and statements that I can’t remember with absolute clarity so I won’t do him the injustice of trying to write them down her and most probably get them wrong but they sounded reasonable at the time. He was trying to sell stuff and you don’t try to sell me stuff so I value your opinion more highly but you, Rob Cosman and many others whose opinion I value very highly all seem quite happy to use the diamond stones so I was wondering if you could shed some light on the matter. Again, sorry James, I know this mightn’t have been a great idea to post because of differing opinions but yours counts the most so thought that I’d ask. Have a great day mate, take care and thanks again for all the wisdom you’ve given me these last few years, I am very grateful, thank you
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Schwarz put it best: "Sharpening is done by rubbing smaller and smaller rocks on the steel." Chris's point is that every stone, sandpaper, diamond plate or paste is nothing more than tiny hard particles (rocks) that gouge little scratches in the steel. It doesn't matter what your rocks are made from, they all do the same thing. The only real difference is some (like diamonds) are harder than others so they continue to scratch the steel for a longer time (and diamond plates stay flat). I have no idea why the scratches from one rock (diamonds) would be worse for the tool than a scratch from another rock (sandpaper, water stone, etc.).
@dch3440
@dch3440 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@hardnox6655
@hardnox6655 6 жыл бұрын
AMEN!!!!! Finally some common sense sharpening advice. Well stated. I keep my strop handy all the time.
@AndrewMorgan666
@AndrewMorgan666 6 жыл бұрын
Sharpening is the thing I get anxiety over, yes, doing that hair cutting thing, so thank you for making my life simpler.
@thewhistlerswoodshop5897
@thewhistlerswoodshop5897 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, James. I used your link to purchase a similar 600/1000 stone on Amazon.
@keantoken6433
@keantoken6433 6 жыл бұрын
As I understand the strop actually blunts the edge slightly while polishing it, and this makes the edge more durable.
@thenotsoguitarguy9429
@thenotsoguitarguy9429 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 1" thick piece of lexan and I use up to 600 grit wet/dry sand paper for sharpening. I've never had a problem with my chisels cutting end grain. Or taking hair off my arm, for that matter.
@richardphelps7301
@richardphelps7301 5 жыл бұрын
The NotSoGuitarGuy do you use honing oil too and would that same technique work for your planer blades too, any follow up after 600 or you stop right there? I’m having difficulty with my planer
@welshnutterz
@welshnutterz 6 жыл бұрын
I use the same method, but my leather strop is glued to a block of wood and I use autosol metal polish as paste, it cuts better than anything IV tried. Razer sharp
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 6 жыл бұрын
Perfectly put and cutting paper this end grain I would say that works for me. Thank you and take it easy.
@robertshepherd8354
@robertshepherd8354 6 жыл бұрын
I went down the line of water stones etc. They do work well but it is such a faff having to flatten them all the time. Now I use 600 grit and 1200 grit wet and dry followed by a strop. Works just as well.
@ryanmiske2178
@ryanmiske2178 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@garybarchas4984
@garybarchas4984 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you! I've been telling newbies this for YEARS. and you're right about the diehards. In the real world if you want that incredible edge you have to strop every 3 or 4 cuts! Not happening in my life. The Japanese with their incredibly accurate joining make one or two cuts and strop. That was for Emperors.
@jumbo4billion
@jumbo4billion 6 жыл бұрын
Gary Barchas I got suckered into that by a pompous cabinet maker who was more into having a pretty display of tools than actually using them. It's different if you've got extremely high quality steel; those lie nielson blades hold an incredibly sharp edge for a long time, boat makers love em because you don't need to waste time stopping and sharpening nearly so often.
@richardphelps7301
@richardphelps7301 5 жыл бұрын
So I should be doing a little bit of sharpening everyday instead of every few days spending a lot of time sharpening up all my chisels? Do I need anything better than my Smith brand double sided diamond sharpener and Arkansas stone?
@jbb5470
@jbb5470 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video Stumpy! KISS works most of the time!
@nigelkavanagh2048
@nigelkavanagh2048 5 жыл бұрын
Hi ,I always sharpen with 400/600 exe lap and it works great. Great advise.
@timhalcomb4041
@timhalcomb4041 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share
@bear2972
@bear2972 6 жыл бұрын
I always love the information and the history lesson. Thanks!
@jlang8213
@jlang8213 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another wonderful, informative video!
@videostarish
@videostarish 5 жыл бұрын
The edge I get from my TORMEK grind wheel & leather strop wheel is scary! It even comes with a packet of band-aid plasters, the manual says " you're gonna need 'em!".
@barlow2976
@barlow2976 4 жыл бұрын
I needed a tourniquet, and an air-ambulance.
@joelb670
@joelb670 6 жыл бұрын
Your wood working bench is Sjöbergs.... Sweden rocks! Thank you for great tips! /Joel
@deweygravesjr.122
@deweygravesjr.122 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up ! Nice video
@gall_crafter_works
@gall_crafter_works 6 жыл бұрын
I finish mine on 2000 grit paper before stropping. To each his or her own, as long as it cuts as smooth as you like, and does what you want it to do. And I agree... we're woodworkers, not metal polishers.
@wb_finewoodworking
@wb_finewoodworking 6 жыл бұрын
We’re well done and good advise. Thanks.
@watermain48
@watermain48 5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me James, thanks.
@scottadams2624
@scottadams2624 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, Stumpy!
@nillilamos3152
@nillilamos3152 5 жыл бұрын
It would have been a fun addition to the video to see you try both this chisel next to a 15k grid chisel. See how much force and effort it would take you on both. Other than that, very educational for me and my students!
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
The 15k will cut with a little less force for a minute or so.
@dannyradjkoemar580
@dannyradjkoemar580 5 жыл бұрын
I have a daimond stone thats 1000 on one side, and 400 grid on another. Is that good enough? Tnx man, you make good videos for guys like me. Danny from holland
@dannyradjkoemar580
@dannyradjkoemar580 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan W tnx man
@raymondmalone9721
@raymondmalone9721 6 жыл бұрын
new subscriber from UK , great video.
@danbraun3780
@danbraun3780 6 жыл бұрын
Great practical info. Thanks.
@d.k.1394
@d.k.1394 6 жыл бұрын
good intelligent video and practical
@AlesZvolanek
@AlesZvolanek 3 жыл бұрын
Alright I'm the guy. Before watching this I already got 2 wetstones (one double sided) all the way until 8.000 grit. With leather strap and honing paste my chisels cut like laser beams. Aproximately for 50 strokes
@davelikesbike5045
@davelikesbike5045 6 жыл бұрын
Well said Sir! Thanks for the great videos.
@alfredneumann4692
@alfredneumann4692 6 жыл бұрын
It's really time, that this was said! Thank you!
@rpnp2
@rpnp2 6 жыл бұрын
lol you think that was bad.. go on a custom knife forum.. They are doing graphs and looking for microscopic scratch patterns
@rpnp2
@rpnp2 6 жыл бұрын
BTW look up Rockstead knives.. often considered some of the sharpest knives made are sharpened with sandpaper
@jumbo4billion
@jumbo4billion 6 жыл бұрын
Never go on a custom knife forum...
@jerodhowell816
@jerodhowell816 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, thank you. This would be a great topic for the point/counterpoint video series, I am sure Mustache Mike would have some sharp things to say on a different angle. Hope he is well.
@whosaidthat5236
@whosaidthat5236 4 жыл бұрын
I listen to Paul sellers for sharpening my planes and chisels , 250 grits good enough because it’s more important to have your plane set up correctly then to have a stupid sharp plane , he does go to 1200 grit, I bought a water stone that’s 1000-4000 ... just so I don’t have to tune my craptacular cheap hand planes that much , don’t buy footprint or groz handplanes
@tacom51
@tacom51 6 жыл бұрын
James, watch that making sense thing, might be contagious.....
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 6 жыл бұрын
400/1000 diamond stone and a piece of leather with some green compound is all I use. No need to get crazy with sharpening, it'll be sharp enough to shave with off the 1000grit.
@MrKredinger
@MrKredinger 6 жыл бұрын
This makes sense, thanks for the tip
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 5 жыл бұрын
very well said.
@robertbrennan6517
@robertbrennan6517 6 жыл бұрын
Great Info. as Always, Thank You!
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 5 жыл бұрын
may be added that extra sharp japanese tools are sharpened every morning (half hour or nore), before starting to work. a good practise in general, completely necessary if you go nuts on that grit, keep that in mind sharp guys.
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