ARE ZOOM LENSES TRASH ? feat. Sony 16-35 f/2.8 GMII & Sony 24-70 f/2.8 GMII

[@jwate]

I used the 35-150 for a year. I didn’t think I’d care about the weight, but after extensive use I just didn’t enjoy using it because of the weight and balance of it. Also I found myself missing wide shots more often than not and using my 20 G. Using sony native you’ll get better stability. So I switched over to the 24-70 mk ii myself.

[@christopherho8738]

Having the mindset to use a zoom like several primes is the best way to grow. Be intentional in what focal length you need to get certain composition. Good stuff man💪🏻

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@SimonMeunier]

For client stuff i always find the zoom lenses more practical because of the issues you can face during a shoot outside of your confort zone. Otherwise, for personal stuff or to get more creative I prefer primes. But yeah, when being paid for work, I always thank myself for getting zoom lenses

[@nVuFilms]

💯

[@timdanyo898]

I like zoom lenses for how fast and versatile they are. The 24-70 GM II is great for most things. I pretty much have it on camera all the time unless I need extra wide or extra zoom. That means tremendous value which is the name of the game. The fact that the 24-70 GM II is so sharp and clinical almost all across the image allows me to throw a 1/8 pro mist in front to give it a "look" that works well for many situations. There are 100s of other filters to put in front for whatever situation which just adds even more opportunities to get what I want. I use the NiSi C5 filmmakers kit with VND, matte box, 1/8 pro mist and an extra 2 stop ND.

[@nVuFilms]

Nice

[@gamepat9]

First of all I'm using my 24-70 deez nuts for almost everything because it's so versatile for every situation. But I had cases where I regretted using it instead of a prime, when I was filming with my A7IV in crop mode (50 fps) F2.8 and another videographer did some shots with her A7SIII F2.8 in Full Frame and my shots looked completely different (worse) than hers because in crop mode my bokeh F2.8 looked like 4.0 and was actually distracting in the edit. Had to add some fake bokeh with davinci magic masks, to make both shots work next to each other. I'm still more of a hobbyist that's why a a7SIII or FX3 is still out of reach, but in cases like these I cursed my A7IV crop mode. Without crop mode I think my 24-70 would never leave my camera, because I think F2.8 Full Frame bokeh is totally enough for all of my needs.

[@nVuFilms]

Crop need f1.8 at least

[@Mattrossphoto]

Im on gfx now, but I haven’t been able to let go of my a7rv 24-70ii, 70-200ii and 50 1.2. For photography that combo cannot be beat. The performance and iq is top notch. I love the 100s images more than anything in this world, but it simply cannot come close to doing what Sony does. The Sony will never fail me. And the zooms are just as sharp now, just don’t have the same contrast as primes. But you make up for that contrast difference in my opinion with the ability to tighten up and perfect your composition in fast situations . I wish there was a one all solution but I don’t think there ever will be. In the end we make what we have work lol

[@ProfoundProductions]

That is the ultimate combo. Shocks me how many nube wedding photographers don’t have a 70-200 lens for the ceremony.

[@AlanHuiRealty]

Your end scene is the best part of this video!

[@paulgero]

I’ve been missing you glad to see you again! A buddy shoots weddings and he calls the 24-70 the KTLA lens - Keep The Lawyers Away - because it’s a lens that can cover your butt!

[@nVuFilms]

Lol

[@martinwoodfilms]

19:33 Juicy indeed! Yeah for live stuff like weddings, versaility is the norm. Especially as a solo shooter. I can play a bit when I have a tripod shooter in the cut going long

[@nVuFilms]

👍

[@martinwoodfilms]

@@nVuFilms yeah you really hit it on the head with the 70mm. 70mm at 2.8 looks pretty close to 50mm 1.4 to clients

[@loudmotion5639]

I subscribed out of pity for you. haha thanks for the happy ending. Yeap am definitely a fan of zooms coming from using fuji 18-55 kit and the sigma 18-35 lens. I do find it fits my style of shooting run and gun lol but interviews i love how the limitations of my 35/55/85mm prime force me to move, angle well my shots creatively.

[@nVuFilms]

Lol

[@cabellofatto]

Dude you are so damn talented. Your wedding vids are just so good.

[@nVuFilms]

Thank you!

[@brady_ackroyd]

Your video on this iPad looks SICK! Not the wedding part, that was trash. Your grades get better everyday. Even your GoPro footage on you fishing channel look great. I don’t even use my GoPro 11 after purchasing the FX30. Perhaps you could create a lut for the GoPro? I’d buy it.

[@nVuFilms]

Lol

[@Niklondon]

Your weeding edit is stupid good, I mean crazy good! I’m assuming you edit yourself, would love a tutorial of that edit. 👍🏽🤟🏽

[@nVuFilms]

Thanks yes I edit

[@MiguelRamos-xs7un]

Always look forward to seeing those wedding edits. Inspiring!!

[@nVuFilms]

🤙🤙🤙

[@humble_integrity]

you know you can probably get even better bokeh if you had an a7 or an a7r and go into apsc mode with the 24-70 gm ii, it becomes 36-105mm and then you can get an even tighter zoom and a sharper image because it's being down sampled from a denser resolution.

[@sambrumley_productions]

The zoom lenses may end up being one of the few reasons to use a full camera and not something like an iPhone 15 Pro or the new Osmo Pocket 3 (I'm getting the Pocket 3 tomorrow even though I shouldn't have bought a brand new camera that just came out yesterday)

[@moneyshift8190]

Great video. Are you shooting hand held with the zooms or gimbal? Wondering if you have to deal with balancing gimbal's etc.

[@nVuFilms]

I'm on gimbal and I just balance it in the middle of the zoom range

[@norefilms]

Nice film burn transitions, would be grateful if you could do a tutorial or point me to where I can learn the technique. Thank you!

[@humble_integrity]

thanks for sharing the filters and links, i just bought some....

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Thank you for the video. Really like your walk through on your Freewell experience. Also like that you don’t sugar coat your presentation. One other question. Why do you not use the Sony 50/1.2 GM? Take care.

[@nVuFilms]

I use 50mm. I actually sold the 50mm f/1.2 and got 50 f1.4 for the size and I don't use 1.2 much. Sometimes using 50 limits me to the types of shots I want to get

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

@@nVuFilms Thank you. Currently I own both the 50/1.2 GM and 50/1.4 GM using one for family portraits and one for events because of its smaller size. Do wish the new 85mm GM II was going to be f/1.2 but don’t think it will be.

[@stkuj]

I’m a longtime prime user and have tried to use zooms. They are so much more efficient and save lots of time. But the snob in me, is stuck on 1.4 😂

[@nVuFilms]

Believe me I get it

[@realMysta]

Surprised you sold the 35-150! that's still my favorite

[@nVuFilms]

It is too heavy and I find myself needed more wide than tighter

[@realMysta]

@@nVuFilms Definitely fair, I'm so used to it that when someone handed me a 16-35 and I thought it was fake because of how light it was.

[@KBTalkPodcast]

I have the 24-70gmii as well and I find myself on occasions needing something wider, and I’m leaning towards that 16-35gmii . Seems you got it down and the only Prime I have is the 85 1.4 for those bokahlisious photos 😅

[@ProfoundProductions]

Anything wider than 24 is too warped for people, I only go wider for real estate.

[@SanKraN87]

I am wondering why you didn't go for 12-24 instead of 16-35? in order to have more coverage in the mm range

[@nVuFilms]

Too wide for what I do

[@ProfoundProductions]

Because that would look like sht! lol

[@GeronimoDogan]

Dude you re NOT shooting a wedding you remshooting a hollywood movie it is so incredible

[@nVuFilms]

👍

[@kuramafox1290]

Vu is the tamron 28 75 good enough for all round photo/video? Or is rhe sigma dg dn 2 a better choice

[@nVuFilms]

Sigma is better but 28-75 can do the job

[@ProfoundProductions]

Stick to native lenses, your autofocus will thank you.

[@noahmonte8581]

I swear active stabilization on my a7siii works better on sony lenses vs 3rd party ones.

[@nVuFilms]

I believe it is supposed to

[@ProfoundProductions]

Zooms for live events hands down, best for sniping and staying discrete too. Nothing worse than a wedding photographer that stays all up in the couples face or in front of the ceremony isle with a 35mm prime.

[@Smooth1productions]

Looks nice I have a 18-105G as my everyday do it all lens

[@rl-films]

I'm a goober so I'm on the Tamron but I zoom a million times a day (basketball highlight reels) so the long warranty is good at least. RE. cutting back to single shooter weddings: I live in an area where people can barely afford pictures at weddings, let alone video on top of that so I've been hesitant to even try to explore taking on gigs as a noob despite having the gear (minus a drone). I don't want to underdeliver or charge too little to make it worth my while. Yo, there's no channels out there for poor people working for other poor people, imagine that? LOL.

[@nVuFilms]

Lol

[@SePark]

I need to flip flop to primes then 😆😆🤜

[@nVuFilms]

LOL

[@PaulFeinberg]

🤣🤣

[@antonyb]

Good advice on the pricing of lens. Whats the mist filter are u using on your headshot video. Is it the older freewell. it 1/8 or 1/4

[@nVuFilms]

It's the mist that comes with freewell versatile system. It's 1/8

[@kernzilla]

never leave home without the 16-35 for wedding. great way to get some stand-out shots, and LOVE getting in peoples faces when things get loco at the reception. loving yours so far or miss the 14mm? love the content and channel man, you're doing it right. hats off on that preview edit @4:30. pro look, vfx in check, and guessing the couple super happy with it. serious question for yas: beginning to end, how much time do you find it takes to complete a proper weding edit? i know folks that can sit down and output that level work in like 2.3 hr. for me, honestly it'll take me couple days going back and forth on it. lay it out, then wipe out entire edit couple times, etc.. without sounding too pompous, 100% happy with footy/shots, so no real issue there. apprecaite any insights, or perhaps future vid? feel like it's some version of editors block combined with too many options within NLE. with wedd edits, feel like you could take the same footy & same song, and end up with prob 10 different versions that would be equally great and highly accpetable. love any insights, would def sign up for $29.99 masterclass on not pulling hair out for wedding song edits 😜

[@nVuFilms]

Bro like... 8 - 10 hours for a full 5-8 minute film including searching for music. But countless of hours in the shower and toilet and driving car thinking about it before I even turn on the computer

[@GlassfilmWeddings]

brother! you sold the 50 1.2 for the 1.4? How come? lighter and cheaper? Im tryna get my 24-70 updated. Its the best all around lens. If you could only choose 1 then 24-70 mark 2 is gold.

[@steveschnetzler5471]

I carry a 7-14, 14-140, and 100-300 zoom and either a 17, 25 or 56 mm fast prime. Yes I am MFT Trash, and proud of it.

[@nVuFilms]

🤣

[@nVuFilms]

So you primes look like my zooms

[@dccoletrain]

Have you thought of selling all your gear and just buying the new iPhone Pro…. KZbin told me it was the best using log footage.😂

[@nVuFilms]

Yea I'm doing that right now

[@MarztechRacing]

iPhone log ain’t ready

[@timmerjared]

I just filmed a whole wedding on the 35mm GM, lol would have loved to have the 50 1.4 with me, but I only own the 35mm and the Tamron 28-75, don’t really trust the Tamron for a wedding. I like the idea of having GM zooms tho.

[@nVuFilms]

Yessir

[@lukastemberger]

I just got the 12-24 F4 to complement the 24-105 F4. And I have 35 1.8, 55 1.8 and 90 2.8 Macro primes. I think I'm covered...

[@nVuFilms]

F4 💀

[@lukastemberger]

Excuse me? You're trying to get a super shallow depth of field on a super wide? :) No... The 24-105 is an excellent run and gun lens, I never needed more than F4. When I need precision and a dreamy bokeh, I go for my primes. Oh, and the Haida ND with CPL has a lever, so you can adjust both CPL and ND without having to screw the lens to lock it like on the Freewell. I haven't tried Freewell, but Haida had great reviews and I'm happy with the amount of color cast and such. It fares better than most brand names.

[@ProfoundProductions]

Mistake, get a 24-70 2.8 to replace those f4 lenses.

[@lukastemberger]

@@ProfoundProductions I don't need a 24-70 F2.8. I can achieve all I need with the lenses I have.

[@PaulFeinberg]

Love some good primes…..however 100% agree there is a place and time for zooms. I just got the 16-35mm GM….man great lens (even the version 1 lol)

[@nVuFilms]

Oh my gooot you buy version 1.... Dat... Unprofeshuno

[@PaulFeinberg]

@@nVuFilms I mean $1K….i will take a little more weight to save $1,300 over the version 2 🤣🤣

[@nVuFilms]

@@PaulFeinberg it's not just a little weight. It's AF speed and reliability. Corner to corner sharpness. Coating. 👀

[@suikhuathang6480]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ProfoundProductions]

Too wide, have to be all up the couples business.

[@janjopr]

Always use the better option for an your budget, I use Sigma Art really sharp lenses my gm 16-35mm need to be repair two times :/

[@imranalijafar]

have you seen any quality difference in zve1 footage with and without dynamic stabilization?

[@nVuFilms]

dynamic stabe has some added sharpening on it that isn't ideal

[@imranalijafar]

@@nVuFilms i saw some crappy video with dynamic stabilization. maybe they were using kit lens. mainly the image was not in focus and pixelated

[@nVuFilms]

@@imranalijafar probably bad cameraman

[@imranalijafar]

@@nVuFilms most likely :-)

[@bladerealm124]

@@nVuFilmsany way around that or is it noticeable even with sharpening turned all the way down? How detrimental is it?

[@larrylaffer4304]

just get a second camerea. the first with a 50mm and the second one wit a 16-35mm :)

[@ThomasR-SanJoseRealEstate]

The ending is so money

[@nVuFilms]

Lol

[@CiseEntertainment]

Dope info 👌

[@GoodcoStudios]

The ibis also works better

[@nVuFilms]

Slightly yes

[@IMDABROWN]

Se says you are his second shooter lol.

[@nVuFilms]

🤷‍♂️

[@humble_integrity]

i dont care with the price is really, i know it's within my budget, and although im not a professional photographer, that price is not going to hurt me so i want it and i'll get it because it's convenient to have. i love zoom lenses and i think people who hate on zoom lenses like you are idiots because they're versatile and can be used for multiple scenarios (photo, video, fast action, portrait, landscape and so on) so it actually is worth the cost when you think about all the primes that you dont need.

[@jondutra1474]

Great vid

[@MarbooJr]

Why is sigma dusty nuts now? Things getting caught in the barrel?

[@nVuFilms]

Dust gets in the lens. It's a known issue

[@MarbooJr]

@@nVuFilms I concur

[@CucNguyen-lb1gk]

Myemteo ❤

[@mr3ggo79]

damn now i want a Sony 16-35 f/2.8 GMII lol

[@nVuFilms]

Links in the description 🤣

[@Marvnz]

Only 29.99 🤑

[@nVuFilms]

Always

[@SJtoday52]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@YeshuaBiznis]

😂😂😂