Ariana Madix Says Tom Sandoval "Won't Get S-T" | Vanderpump Rules After Show (S11 E2) Pt. 2 | Bravo

[@bravo]

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[@danielarico7969]

So he wants Ariana to get over it already, but he's still mad at James for something he did over 10 years ago?

[@esjae2693]

He still wants a friendship with James, so he wants understanding from him. He doesn’t want anything to do with her. That’s the difference.

[@Caroline-ce9lf]

When James was 20! But not something he did as a 41 year old.

[@melspears7702]

AMEN. It’s “just not a good look”

[@carolyndaigle770]

Hypocrisy much?

[@Rizzarose]

Everybody told him to get over what James and his girlfriend did behind his back in his bed, with his condoms and his sheets

[@EvanDseven]

Schwartz has looked uncomfortable in every one of these lol

[@Baybphat100]

I actually feel bad for Schwartz... He's such a dope but caught up in such a shizzstorm beyond his capability but now shares a business with the number one "hated" guy in the group.

[@jansmith3158]

Schwartz helped hid Tom's affair with Rachel from Ariana. Who does that???@@Baybphat100

[@sarahrupert5320]

Yes 🤣 🤣 💀

[@kelseywillow8110]

@@Baybphat100he’s not as innocent as he looks, he knew what was going on and helped by kissing Rachel

[@suzs3770]

That’s just how he is every second of everyday. I think he’s a big ole ball of nerves like myself 😂

[@supervixen8556]

Sandoval payed $15,000 towards James and Rachel’s Rachella engagement extravaganza in Coachella and claimed he was James’s bff. Now he decides to bring up James & Kristen a decade later as a deflection, because he’s a total narcissist and baby.

[@lilmisslady]

This !!!! 💀💀 your beyond right.

[@Reed.E]

And also wonders why Ariana wants an itemized bill.

[@thegreyhoundgirls536]

Sandoval is lying. His eyes shifted left big time

[@jansmith3158]

Notice how Sandoval totally ignores Tom Swartz feelings in this vid about how Sandoval literally destroyed their bar business because of his affair & tom sandoval literally talks over Swartz so he can express his feelings out loud. And, Sandoval also ignores the fact that he ran away and was doing his sing tour dumping everything onto Swartz lap to deal with the after math. YES, Sandoval is defiantly a narcissist maybe sociopath narc. (look up these traits everyone) In additon Sandoval leaves out the fact HE CHEATED ON KRISTIN.

[@nyvash4237]

This is an excellent point

[@Eamon2Please412]

So Sandoval is allowed to hold a ten year grudge but Ariana and everyone should move on in months. What a hypocritical loser.

[@joannewilkins5000]

100%

[@karendionne2228]

Ariana actually did move on 10 days later with her new and now boyfriend Daniel, so may be they should stop talking about it.

[@thettproject4534]

@@karendionne2228 It doesn't work like that! Ariana doesn't have to be single for a certain period so he can be kept accountable for horrible things he's done.

[@tracim3080]

@@karendionne2228 That’s not how it works. Her ability to heal does not mean he did not harm or take away his responsibility or accountability for having harmed.

[@CourtReporter7]

Tom never ever ever stops making excuses. Never. Any time he takes even a little bit of accountability for something, he always follows it with a BUT. Yeah, that was wrong, BUT…excuse excuse excuse. 🥴

[@AMOOREA100]

But he gets put down, brought down the most. I'm sorry if I put 9 years into a relationship with someone I bloce and a little tata comes and tickles his mid life crisis, I think I would be getting him back and not trying to destroy his world, what a set up. Tom had been awesome to Princess Ariana for years so really and they AKL cheat. Ariana was in someone else's bed awful fast for being hurt 💔 Not smell like set up to me. We will hear that eventually that Tom was set up by this series. He's taken the fall, stayed away from his business and been nice where he could tell Ariana to shove it. Sorry this just has a bad smell. Even Lisa is closing up shop and getting out town.

[@doloresbriseno2567]

@@AMOOREA100 are you Tom's mom? If not, then put down the kool-aid, dude.

[@Daniela-ub5vo]

He did the same when he bagan dating Ariana while he was still with Kristen..

[@AMOOREA100]

I hear lots of blame game from everyone

[@CourtReporter7]

@@AMOOREA100 There is no question of blame. Tom cheated on Ariana. For MONTHS. And lied and lied and lied. HE is the only person to blame for cheating. It’s 2024. We don’t blame the victims in this day and age. Maybe you missed that memo?

[@loulou9978]

Narcissist never accept responsibility

[@carlaweaver1629]

Every time I think I couldn’t possibly dislike him more, he opens his mouth & wow I can!

[@intheknowglow]

So he has 3.1 million to buy out the house off Ariana but had none 10 months ago? 🙄 Schwartz disassociating 💅 while Tom is trying to argue 2013 isn’t 10 years ago in 2023, like on Viall Files the math ain’t matching.

[@Hi_iamTonka]

Doesn't matter if it was 10 years ago facts are facts and everybody is just as shady as Tom they all have cheated they all have been side pieces 😂😂😂 that's like telling a girl who was sexual assaulted that it happened x amount of years ago so it's invalid

[@Reed.E]

People are seriously misunderstanding the 3.1M - she's not actually going to get that amount. It pays their debt first and then splits 50/50.

[@intheknowglow]

@@Hi_iamTonka him not arguing that, Tom was saying 10 years ago was not 10 years ago. He’s that delusional he just lies that facts aren’t facts, 2013 - 2023 is not 10 years.

[@adrianquintana1981]

Thank you!!! Well put!!

[@amandac7895]

It may have started ten years ago,but that shit show of a relationship lasted a few years. The house debate is puzzling to me because Ariana has no problem moving into his apartment with Kristen after going from side chick to main chick. Everyone says lala can't complain on because she was the side chick, but so was Ariana. She is trying to say he's the guy so he should leave, but if you demand to wear the pants in the relationship and you pretty much get final say on everything, you can't pull the traditional ways when it's convenient. She was always rude and acted just like his to anyone who pissed her off. To be spiteful over him not getting the house while in a whole new relationship is petty. At the end of the day, relationships ending is a lot more complicated and no she was not this A+ girlfriend who got cheated on. They aren't married, something he wanted but her feelings came first. No kids , which he wanted and her feelings came first. It was doomed and on top of that you talk down to someone regularly and treat them like shit, you can't expect them to stick around. You can't say if Tom talked to her the way she did him, that everyone would have told her to get out, he's toxic, she deserves better....and I would argue that had the roles been reversed, people would have said "she cheated because he treated her terribly! So of course when a guy came along and treated her well she went for it" and would cheer her on.

[@ceebee987]

If you want a perfect example of a narcissist, look no further than Tom Sandoval. No matter the situation, he's the victim. He's both nauseating and exhausting.

[@SB-io7le]

And a complete idiot

[@ola3rd]

Yup, he is literally a textbook overt narcissist! I keep reminding myself that he can't help himself. Ya just gotta laugh at all the nonsense he spews 😂

[@pamfendlason3817]

I totally agree a,

[@ridiculousnessreigns8018]

To me, gaslighting and narcissist are two of the most overused and incorrectly used words of the past couple of years, but in this case I 100% agree with you. They both clearly apply to Tom. He’s awful

[@Soverakera]

Every single on of them are a narcissist.

[@christina41453]

Schwartz is soooo uncomfortable!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@jansmith3158]

he knows he his business partner is a pathalogical liar & con man. He just doesn't know how to get out of this partnership.

[@TheEunice555]

Im so proud of James as soon he talked about 10 years ago he was like bye not entertaining this

[@mraz95]

obsessed with Ariana calling him out with logic

[@Hi_iamTonka]

What logic.... She acted like cause he cheated that the bills just disappeared her own friend just called her out.... Can you prove you've been paying bills and Ariana was stuck cause she hasn't 😂😂

[@chelseababe]

Is she? Where’s the logic? Please elaborate.

[@mraz95]

@@Hi_iamTonka requesting an itemized invoice or spreadsheet is very smart, he should easily be able to pull all the bills and provide that. because she's right, why should she trust him?

[@mraz95]

she literally said she new about the bills, so clearly not acting like they disappeared. asking for an itemized invoice is smart, he should be able to pull all the bills and get that to her. why should she trust anything he says without the bills to back it up?@@Hi_iamTonka

[@mraz95]

logic is asking for itemized invoices. he's clearly untrustworthy so he should pull the bills and show proof of what is owed. also interesting that he has said "she hasn't paid in 8 months" with zero context, when in reality she has asked him for the itemization to pay and he just hasn't given it her.

[@saraicarranza1244]

Sandoval having a conversation: LIKE LIKE,,, LIKE LIKE LIKE,, LIKE,,,, LIKE LIKE,,, LIKE,,,, LIKE,,,, LIKE LIKE🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Btw, that look he's giving Shwarts is VERY telling.... This dude is LIKE a total fake, LIKE 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cookiesnmilk9200]

omg he does that every time he speaks. It's so annoying

[@Animalsrights816]

NOW I think he has a side deal with someone on their auto payments 😂😂😂

[@jakestroll6518]

Yeah, I’m Team Move On Already but there’s something suspect about that part. Why doesn’t he just hire an auditor to break everything down for her?

[@jennymiller7068]

YES LMFAO

[@louannpoovey5867]

The look Shwartz gives when he knows the Worm is lying.

[@nguverenande3074]

Worm with the mustache🤣😂

[@antorberrguilar7267]

9:11 SANDOVAL DON'T! Do not blame the business partners. You fucked up so badly. You put your name on the business, you are the face of the business and you show your business to us the viewers. It's on television fr anyone and everyone to see. This guy can't take any fault or blame. Vanderpump, get him off this show my god.

[@cindylou3607]

Please Lisa...we are ALL begging you!

[@AMOOREA100]

Wow hardest working most helpful most easy to blow up life. All these people need a dose of God Adultery is a game as well as infidelity but duh all of us judge and they get paid to make drama.

[@lisamarie8265]

James needs anger management classes. He goes from zero to 100, in a few seconds. It's disturbing. IMO

[@GameLover-pz5zc]

Sandoval stabbing him in the back made him that way.

[@aaronmckechnie4467]

He's the most rotten of the guys.

[@youyeedyourlasthaw]

@@GameLover-pz5zcHe’s always been that way LMAO

[@sammysweetdesigns]

So Sandoval was faking being a friend with James for 10+years….its wierd. My next thought is, is sandoval really friends with anyone or is it only when it benefits himself?

[@Reed.E]

Sandoval can never accept fault so he brings up his poor feelings from ten years ago. 😂😂

[@esjae2693]

His feelings are valid tho.

[@Reed.E]

@esjae2693 Maybe if Sandoval actually possessed communication skills and had a grown-up conversation with James about his feelings, oh maybe some time in the past ten years, it'd make sense. But it's obvious deflection at this point. Don't pretend you're his friend all these years and lay it out when it's convenient lol.

[@esjae2693]

@@Reed.E this situation is convenient enough!

[@stmart4097]

It's always I'm sorry BUT..

[@tracim3080]

@@esjae2693 they were valid 10 years ago. They have absolutely nothing to do with his actions a few months ago. Also, that was the actions of a 21 year old boy. He is a 41 year old man if he thought it was shitty of the kid to do then he has absolutely no excuse for repeating that behaviour himself.

[@emilyeul]

When is Schwartz going to wake up and realize that tying himself to Sandoval is brining him down. The fact that he has so much loyalty for Sandoval yet Sandoval wouldn’t do the same for his is mind blowing. Tim Schwartz please wake up and break ties

[@esiana]

The fact that sandoval is rationalizing is disturbing

[@jansmith3158]

Tom is trying to manipulate the viewers. its not working.

[@rossycontreras6902]

Wow Tom such a liar. Your accountant doesn’t charge you EXTRA for a statement on bills/payments! I agree with her not giving him shit when it’s all coming out of his account and she can’t prove why she has been adding money to that account! Give her a paper bill and she’ll give you money, stop smooching off her now 😂

[@debbiegoodin]

Ariana can't say he isn't getting sh**. This will be 50,/50 and the judge will decide not you. And why was there not like a prenup buying any kind of property not being married. Both of you should've had a paper protecting you both. But Ariana can't say "he ain't getting nothing". The judge might say he can stay and give you a certain amount. You don't want to live there so what's the problem. Millions in the world get cheated on everyday. Yall are no diff than us average none famous people. I hope you both move on and find happiness. Life's to short to let anger eat you up inside period. Kristen isn't so crazy now huh? You both messed around on her. You both owe Kristen an apology.

[@maggieyoung8090]

@@debbiegoodin Can’t get a “prenup” if there is no nuptials. The judge will divide the house 50/50 if there is any profit after paying off house. Anything else will not be address, since they’re not married. There wont be any splitting of assets.

[@staceys2711]

​@debbiegoodin you do understand that the episodes we see now were filmed last year. So, I'm sure the story is different now. At least I'd hope.

[@sarahrupert5320]

⁠@@staceys2711 that’s true & I really hope so. I do understand her wanting to know where her money is going & needing a breakdown of payments or what’s owed but come on…at the end of the day you can hate him all you want but the damn bills still need to be paid. Her not making a payment for 8 months is ridiculous. (Assuming he’s telling the truth, of course. Lol.)

[@CGC890]

@@sarahrupert5320 Why would it take 8 months for him to itemize the bills? It should take no more than 2 hours! If it takes 8 months he is hiding something. Him not giving the itemization and choosing to have his account go into the negative is very telling.

[@mraz95]

Schwartz saying "I had nothing to do with it" is some serious delulu

[@cindylou3607]

I have always thought Schwartz was a load of B_______t & nothing has changed. Him & Scumdoval will never learn from their mistakes. All they know is blame everyone else for their problems that they created.

[@adrianquintana1981]

Tom is seriously sooo delusional. Lmao. He’s a mess.

[@jansmith3158]

look up the traits of a narcissist...he seems to fit these traits. these types are con artist.

[@pamfendlason3817]

Such a train wreck!

[@Jay-wz8zw]

Sandoval has such violence in his eyes at all times. It is alarming.

[@stmart4097]

I honestly do not get ppl who thinks she's being too mean, too harsh , too petty.. he literally blew her world up.. he mentally messed her up and she is absolutely allowed and entitled to treat him however she wants and set boundaries for herself and anyone who wants to be a part of her life..they weren't just together for a yr or 2 this was an adult long term 10 yr relationship..she has every right to do her thing and he's garbage

[@PatriciaBrown1711]

Amen

[@joannewilkins5000]

Schwartz does not want to be there 😂

[@cherylmiller1970]

Sandoval cannot say a sentence without at least saying LIKE a thousand damn times, so annoying

[@ginao6810]

This is a perfect example of why no one, irrespective of gender, should hand over financial control to someone else. Why doesn’t she have access to the mortgage statements and bills? I get that often one person in a relationship is better at managing money, but the other person still needs access for oversight. (Also I seriously doubt Sandoval would be better at money management, based on comments by past cohabitants).

[@TheFrenchieoolala]

So she wants an an itemized detail of what is owed. Kate just asked her have you been paying money she said it was coming out of his account and she hasn’t given anything in a while because she doesn’t believe him? So all these months who’s paying the mortgage then?

[@prima-madalina]

@@nantucketmornings did you not hear that she was overpaying the mortgage for years?

[@broniewilder]

And know now@@prima-madalina

[@TheFrenchieoolala]

@@prima-madalina so they refinance and what she’s slow or something did she not sign papers also she doesn’t know her portion what is would he when she signed the papers? She can’t call the mortgages people herself since her name is on the mortgage? Stop it!

[@prima-madalina]

​@@TheFrenchieoolala When my mother cosigned my car loan, the car payments were connected to my personal checking account and all the statements came to me, not her... What you're not understanding is that it's very possible that Tom was requesting monthly checks from Ariana that were greater than the amount she actually owed. Based on Ariana's personal math, she doesn't owe anything. If he wants to prove her wrong, he can provide receipts... he's refusing to do that because he knows he's misappropriated funds... he claims he'd need an accountant to prove this, but why would that be the case if the mortgage is coming out of his personal checking account and she was writing him personal checks to cover her portion of the mortgage?? All he has to do is print out his bank statement lol.. you guys are all falling for the narcissistic web of lies and confusion that people like Tom spin. If he was actually broke and his account was as overdrawn as he claims, he would sit down with Ariana and show her his bank statements that reflect the money that both of them have contributed towards the mortgage. She has no idea what he's even been contributing towards the mortgage because he connected the mortgage to his personal checking account.

[@TheFrenchieoolala]

@@prima-madalina she’s not a co signer she’s part owner that’s not the same thing. They both bought the house together. They signed the mortgage together they refinanced together. I don’t care about Sandarvol at all. He is a narcissist creep but we gonna play this game. She knows she’s being petty and that’s fine stand on it that’s all. But you’re not going to convince me that the info she needs she can through him cuz that hella whack.

[@krissnov9072]

Lmao Greg HATES Sandy

[@ivym727]

Sandoval describing what james did not even aware enough to realize he’s describing exactly what he did…. the sheer level of hypocrisy and just a completely distorted sense of self… mind boggling

[@missfaba1781]

schwartz said the restaurant was a lightning rod for negativity😂 How about sandoval and his necklace and white nail polish?😂😂

[@ness5933]

I freaking hated his white nail polish. 🤣

[@worrydarling]

I wish Sandoval would just realize that no matter how much he tries to justify the affair, fetch is never going to happen. The remorsefulness would be much better than trying to seem like the better person. He seems more and more terrible with each passing plea. Schwartz blink if he’s holding hostage & blink twice if you realized you actually hate him

[@dave9624]

God I would rather have a brain bleed than sit through any more of Sandoval excusing his behavior.

[@rhyst124]

Ariana needs to be careful about mortgage payments. It sounds like he is building a case against her.

[@kristinemontellano2664]

Agreed, her pettiness is going to get her in trouble. She basically is abandoning it, leaving the responsibility to him because she as a co owner can't figure out how much their mortgage is so she is refusing to pay it? Lmfao like what is that? "This is my house" but won't pay her portion. Right.

[@kristinemontellano2664]

The excuse she used that he won't provide statements is BS. She is an owner and could figure it out herself, but she feels entitled to the home and to not pay for it while she's sitting on all the $ coming in from the scandal. It's hard to feel bad for her still when she is willingly putting herself in bad positions bc she is too proud.

[@Brooke00755]

i agree

[@Brooke00755]

@@kristinemontellano2664I agree and it’s like we’re the only ones in the comments seeing it that way.

[@intheknowglow]

She's bringing him to court to get a sale and access to finances so she's not dodging her responsibility she bringing it to court.

[@denajenks5342]

I feel for Schwartz. He was definitely collateral damage. Schwartz took the heat because they couldn't get at Sandoval. He is showing is loyalty by still being willing to talk to Sandoval. In the end, all of these extraneous people, James, Scheana wanting an apology from Sandoval is strange to me. Sandoval owes Ariana and Schwartz an apology. No one else.

[@jessicamaerickard521]

Yikes! James has serious anger issues. Zero to One hundred REAL QUICK.

[@Ennui83]

Yes, James. He was always a f*cking liar! (Also, I love that James was right about how long go it was. Ten years, Tom. It was Tom years!)

[@lisac4225]

So if she’s not paying for the mortgage but still living there, he should talk to a lawyer because she’s gonna have to pay that money back when they do sell the house. If he was smart, he would stop feeling guilty for what she actually did as well and get a lawyer, a good one.

[@laurenxx3able748]

Technically, she did say that he was giving her how much the mortgage was and she was overpaying it, so technically, if she was overpaying it, she doesn’t have to pay it for the time being until she’s caught up.. and then he now has to play catch up if anything

[@lisac4225]

@@laurenxx3able748 I get this is reality TV so they need a storyline but as a woman there’s no way I’m ever gonna support another woman making a living off of being a victim. What’s 2024 go talk to at least 25 of her girlfriends and ask if they’ve ever been cheating on is it really that big of a deal if you’re an adult you get out of the bad relationship and move on And as far as I’m concerned, I don’t care if they own a house together dogs and what not her whole attitude is that she’s owed something and you know what you’re a grown adult you’re on you’re responsible for your own happiness she seems like such a 50s check still wanting the guy to make her happy and since he didn’t he hast to pay it’s just really such a step backward in this generationI just am never gonna be on board with it

[@citygirl729]

Ariana does not need to trust Tom with the mortgage figure, she's co-owner of the house so all she needs to do is call up the bank and find out what the exact amount of the monthly mortgage payment is and give Tom half of it every month, it's not rocket science! I totally agree that he's a lowlife for cheating on her especially with her best friend but I don't think that that gives Ariana the right to live rent free and claim ignorance as the reason why she doesn't pay her half of the mortgage! If I were Tom I would be keeping pristine financial records in case he has to prove that Ariana hasn't paid her half of the monthly mortgage payment since their break up!

[@yvettetorres7829]

Apart from the Heloc loan, Ariana knows the monthly payment amount she owes for cable, half original mortgage, half monthly expenses etc. She knows exactly what she owes. Pay your half.

[@annagarcia1527]

Is he still wearing a lighting bolt necklace??

[@saraicarranza1244]

He's doing it to try to get a reaction from Ariana and rocky rocky bang bang.

[@RoseyFuture]

So d]Ariana has just chosen to pay $0? That’s not fair either.

[@prima-madalina]

you honestly believe anything this pathological liar says??

[@alexandraferrer450]

@@prima-madalinaAriana is stating several times in this vid, she is not paying anything until he provides a spreadsheet. She is saying it.

[@prima-madalina]

​@@alexandraferrer450 And she also states Tom knowingly had her overpaying her portion... If she's already overpaid for a couple years then her current payments are technically covered. I'm sure she's done the math to know the extent she's overpaid, so if he disagrees with her calculations and believes she stills owes a balance, then he needs to provide evidence contradicting her math. A normal man who is not hiding anything would not have an issue sitting down with Ariana and an accountant to sort this out. I've dealt with a financially deceptive partner and the fact that Tom moved their mortgage payments from their joint account to his personal account is a major red flag and very typical of people who are misappropriating money.

[@lindsay7463]

DID TOM REALLY THINK THAT THESE FEW EPISODES WERE GONNA KINDA MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SORRY FOR HIM.....& NOT SO MUCH HATE ....THIS IS NOT HELPING ....HE LOOKS WORSE THEN B4. .JS💜💗💜💗

[@kristenr1292]

If Ariana’s name is on the deed to the property why can’t she get the mortgage statement?

[@loecooper936]

Yeah they way she explained it, she definitely showed some grey areas where she could be lying lol

[@sheilaleinen8896]

Exactly. She knows her half. She said they refinanced and she signed papers. She lives there so she can see the amount of monthly utility bills. She literally is saying the mortgage comes out of Tom's account and she has stopped giving him money because "she doesn't trust him" How anyone can defend her on that is crazy. She is playing games because her name is on the house so she thinks she can't be evicted even if she doesn't pay a dime. But In California, if you are a co-owner of a property and your names are both on the mortgage, you do have the authority to evict the other co-owner under specific circumstances. If you have a legal basis for the eviction, such as non-payment of rent, violation of lease terms, or other valid reasons recognized under California law.

[@joannecouturier9658]

​@sheilaleinen8896 it's not a lease or rent ... it's a mortgage (house loan)

[@kristinemontellano2664]

Yes!!! She's just being petty and feels entitled to the home but doesn't want to pay 💀

[@TheFrenchieoolala]

Exactly

[@Eckmayay2]

Sandoval is acting like hes in season 1 again, everyone else has grown up exept for him

[@cynaracherrycaryccc]

James was 20. Kirsten pursued James. Tom was habitually cheating on Kirsten and wasn't engaged to her like James was to Rachel. According to Tom all these years Kirsten was manipulating James and being abusive. Tom was 40ish, and cheating on his life partner for months. By all accounts pursued Rachel and lied to everyone about it. I get James frustration because of how involved in the engagement Tom was.

[@Frizzbeegirl]

If Sandoval had so much resentment towards James, then why did he dish out over 25 grand for James to propose to Rachel He’s so delusional I think that we buy what he’s selling

[@staceys2711]

Here's a thought Sandoval just get the proof to her, or shaddap about it 🤷🏼‍♀️ seems simple enough. This isn't rocket science. Also, you are missing the point with your angst to James... you had an already established relationship with James past what happened 10yrs ago. You lied to his face for 6+ mos, You betrayed the friendship, and yet he was still willing to forgive you but just was waiting for an apology. I'm not sure how or why you can't see that the two things are not equal! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@clwm2dlw]

Seriously, print out the bank statement is proof dumba$$

[@AllyKit]

If Sandy was secretly still so butt hurt about James, why did he pay half of Rachella. This guy is a walking contradiction wrapped up in an enigma wrapped up in a big fat lie.

[@staceys2711]

@@AllyKit James also said numerous times that Sandoval didn't pay for half.

[@b.k8051]

I am just glad they are not going to drill this subject into the ground......................

[@maryjacobsen6539]

LOL.

[@shanijames29]

😂

[@PatriciaBrown1711]

PMSL

[@PrincessDie187]

Katie. Looks. BEAUTIFUL

[@isabellavalencia8026]

Are you bring sarcastic?

[@madelinekurtz2243]

Stun.Ning!

[@PrincessDie187]

@isabellavalencia8026 no she legit looks beautiful

[@wiwtb925]

The only reason Sandoval was “in love“ with Rachel is because she has money. She dodged a bullet by avoiding letting him gaslight her too. (For the record: I am NOT a fan of Rachel.)

[@ytsc1109]

The only person that Sandoval ever apologizes to is Schwartz

[@wendyabraham525]

I don't believe a single word Sandoval says.

[@cmkinne]

Not him still wearing the lightening bolt necklace. Let it go man lmao

[@calmtea5369]

I actually agree with the hypocrisy of James expecting an apology when he never did the same. He is still full of excuses, i was drinking, i was 25… never once just said, ya i was a jerk to you my good friend. Tom repressed his anger out of people pleasing, not narcissism.

[@DanielleGlasgow758]

I thought i was the only one seeing that's the point Tom was making. I absolutely do not condone what Tom and Racquel did but these people expect alot out of each other that they themselves don't give. Saying that bcuz it happened 10 years ago so it shouldn't matter in the moment is ridiculous...the same thing James and Lala did when Racquel tried to say that bcuz they cheated with each other back then (when they were BOTH actually in relationships), they are hypocrites for coming down so hard on her and Tom

[@theresehall2266]

Both Lala and James are alcoholics and both take acountibility for that and are sober today. We can't compare having a few drinks and making stupid decisions to a full blown disease. Also, a 41 year old grown mans standards should be higher than comparing your actions to a 23 year old, someone who's brain isn't even fully develeped yet. Pointing at what James did to mitigate Toms own actions are... embarressing to say the least.

[@thatgirlPAIGE94]

They need to just sell that damn house and split the money down to the last penny.

[@daniellesullivan9883]

What possessed him to own that shirt?

[@carolchristiansen635]

No Tom, she’s not being difficult. You are not trustworthy. And if she owes you something she will pay you. All you have to do is prove that she owes it. That shouldn’t be that difficult. This could be easily sorted out by a confirmed list.

[@secret99826]

“is it illegal to piss on someone’s bush” *immediately pissing*LMAOOO

[@lillynomad7377]

Sandoval got her to cosign some loans for Schwartz and Sandy's against the house. He is shady.

[@lydia4179]

Tim: what do you think I have a side deal? Yes. Yes we do.

[@MrBeatnik18]

Loooooool

[@lisamarie8265]

Sandoval, a member of Mensa, said no one ever.

[@intheknowglow]

I'm wondering if he has numeracy or literacy difficulties because in an early episode he had lost his licence from ignoring mail. He's quite verbally incoherent whereas music and bartending are very hands on and tactile activities to be good at.

[@jennyfromtherock28]

Tom tried to DARVO James! Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. Bringing something up from the distant past that Tom has forgiven James for is totally diverting accountability. So sad.

[@maryjacobsen6539]

If Sandoval wants money from Ariana, it's very simple--GIVE HER AN ACCOUNTING! Why should she believe a word he says? She shouldn't! HE has proven himself to be a liar and untrustworthy. He has put himself in the position he is in; no one did it to him, he did it to himself. I suppose he will start the fake tears soon. He always cries even when the situation isn't about him. I think he does that for attention. He is such a narcissist.

[@shannonography]

She should know how much she signed for on the mortgage. I'm sure her name is on all of the bills too. The bills didn't stop because she is upset. She knows how to pick up phone. If mortgage doesn't get paid it will affect her credit.

[@tanyapollock587]

@@shannonographythe bank does not care who pays the mortgage just that the mortgage is paid. Also how do you know that Ariana’s name is in the hills? Just cause you own a house does not automatically mean you are on all the utility bills. One owner can have it just in their name with out the other owner being listed. Same with insurance. And with how both Sandoval and Ariana are explaining things it sounds like the bills are predominately in his name. And up until he refinanced and took a HELOC loan out on the home she did know what was going in and out. And then he moved everything into his sole account so Ariana no longer sees the finances and then gives Ariana random amounts she has to pay and not telling her what they are going towards. This is also when he gets a mistress not long after and is probably buying his mistress gifts and giving her money.

[@AllyKit]

@@tanyapollock587 Exactly. My husband and I have a joint account for the bills and if he tried to change that to his own account I would not stand for it. We have refinanced as well as gotten a HELOC and he never used that opportunity to change that account. However most of the bills are in his name. Only a couple of utilities are in mine. It's different because we are married so we are responsible for each other's debts, but I put zero money into our joint account even though my name is on the deed with his. Whether or not you are married, you can't just blindly trust right? If my husband cheated on me, you can be damn well sure I would not pay a dime for anything unless my lawyer told me to. People are saying she is being petty. Is it petty or is it smart? I'm sure the court will subtract her half of the mortgage back payments from the final settlement when he buys her out. But he is going to have to pay back that HELOC and it seems to be tied up in the bar so I doubt he will be able to buy her out without selling the house. Either way, we are all here in the comments arm-chair quarterbacking when we don't know the details and they have attorneys to advise them. I can't imagine an attorney would advise her not to pay her bills unless they have a plan. It's probably just a bonus that she's making it harder for him and I don't blame her.

[@louannpoovey5867]

What a poser. Sandoval sitting there acting like he is Ken Todd 😂

[@Leahd501]

Wow can't believe they are still going on and on about this whole ordeal. Katie seems more like Ariana's mouthpiece than anything else. Seems like time has healed some of the casts previous thoughts about this which is great to see. It was crazy the amount of attention Ariana was getting when she did the exact same thing to Christen and she was in a new relationship only a few months later so how devastated was she really. She definitely would not of gotten all the attention she did had this not happened so seems more like a win for her than anything.

[@clareconnor9081]

He never addressed it with James? Did I imagine the "Honda Civic" seflie fight?

[@AugAsh]

Ariana is playing it up no doubt. She's reveling in the bitterness and riding a high horse. Let it go, already

[@countrygirlxo7188]

As much as people can’t stand the Tom’s…. I appreciate their friendship. Throughout the years they’ve always defended each other. Even when their worlds are crumbling they still had each others backs. I hope they never stop being friends.

[@jcp9332]

Interesting how Tom Schwartz talks about an outlet for rage at the bar 7:45. Also, in regard to James, he doth protest too much. Tom Sandoval, regardless of the dirty deed he done, seems to be an outlet for rage for his friends, his loyal, loyal friends.

[@material___]

The very calm “James no” when he’s pissing on the bushes

[@denajenks5342]

James wants an apology from Sandoal, but has he ever apologized to Tom? It doesn't matter how long ago an injury to the relationship happened. If there has never been acknowledgement, remorse and apology, the injury is never dealt with and is never healed.

[@ina2691]

I understand Ariana wanting a breakdown of the bills. But at the same time she hasn’t paid her share of the mortgage and bills in 8 months?? Sis wtf. She’s just freeloading at this point and still has the audacity to make all the house rules

[@janinemcgonagle8921]

Tom is wearing his bolt lighting chain ….

[@summerdrieling7082]

Yep I noticed that…..

[@lillynomad7377]

Sandoval is older than 41. He shaved off two years about 20 years ago for his modeling career. Jax mentioned this numerous times. Right now Sandoval looks 45 old and haggard.

[@seven92023]

As home owner Ariana should know the bills regarding the house and pay them. All these people want to erase or ignore the past but it's there forever. They have all done bad things which makes them hypocrites now when they attack each other. James pissing on the bush is sign he hasn't matured either.

[@kenz4063]

Ariana’s so beautiful and normal and too good for Tom

[@shaneplunkett7227]

Why she so pissed for she cheated with Lala so what’s different

[@MimiBlackbird]

Yikes. Idk about all of this anymore. 🤦🏽‍♀️ I mean, love them, I hope they never cancel the show ever BUT I’m over this storyline, I guess we need some sort of drama but I think scheana is enough for all of us so that should be enough for the show lol. Let’s see the success without the negative drag ons. But I get it was fresh so.. see idk!!!! Also heck yea Shwartzy for saying what you said 🤘🏽

[@williammiller496]

Honestly this is one of the worst fan bases of shows my girl has got me to watch. They act like he murdered somebody when in reality all he did was what 99% of the group have been doing or have done before. Their own known for being cheaters and some are quite literally homewreckers, but its working out perfectly for them because now people like James, Lala and Katie (witch are actually horrible people) all look like the good guys because they are standing by Ariana who is profiting the most of this situation (i dont blame her) what Tom did is wrong! But again they are all cheaters! James wants tom to apologize to him but he cheated on Rachel with Lala and didnt tell Racher untill the engagement was called off. Oh and everyone saying tom lied about him and Ariana being in a bad place yet she moved and was seeing someone else just 10 days after all this happened. But again you can't be surprised with a fan group that go to the Tom's restaurant and harrases people that just work there and sends him death threats, because they pick and choose when cheating is okay

[@TheoKa4444]

It's clear that Tom is paying the mortgage and all the bills. In one of the episodes in the past seasons Ariana mentioned that he is paying for everything, and now she cannot even provide proof that she put any money towards the home payment. It's obvious that she should move out, at the end of the story.

[@Jenna-area51]

Schwartz looks so over Sandoval and very uncomfortable

[@louisecollins1938]

As awful as the affair was, Ariana has zero right to stay in that house if she’s not paying her share of the mortgage. She clearly just admitted she isn’t paying. If she questions the amount fair enough but you can’t pay nothing for months on end. That’s legitimately stealing.

[@Zenithx3]

LVP Knows Exactly what she is doing with this Screenplay.

[@stianw.danielsen2943]

Why did Ariana think she could not pay bills on a shared house?🤔 She has been paying nothing and wonders how it's getting paid..

[@andrearamon4882]

Anyone who defends Tom is a pick me.

[@iyamideolukoshi9936]

So y’all’s girl Ariana then. Because she loved to defend this loser. Tom has some valid points regarding James. A broken clock is right twice a day. James and Lala keep using their age or alcohol as an excuse for their shitty behavior. Real growth would have been James acknowledging and apologizing at some point and NOT peeing in someone’s bushes. Just like how he spat on Kristen’s door. The men on this show are foul af

[@ItzD]

Asking for an invoice/accounting for an amount due is a fair ask. Ariana if you write a check or send a transfer write in the memo what's its for as proof when you go to court (Judge Judy 101)

[@Cassandra.695.11]

Sandoval opening Arianas mail and putting her dishes on her car is my ex hiding my shoes and putting tape over the cameras in my room. I just grey rock him at this point. He hates it.

[@Rizzarose]

I think Arianna needs to be humble she think she’s all that

[@Miss_Maggie]

The more I hear Ariana’s petty excuses and ridiculous behaviour, the more I can’t stand her! 🤮

[@sharonD8330]

Tom, if you were broken up for weeks and you were staying at Sheana's, HOW is James "cheating" with Kristin?? You make no sense

[@allkindsamusicchick]

What happened to Tom Tom??? Do the 2 boys still have a stake in it? How much money did they lose while Scandoval was on sabbatical?? Schwartz looks like he wants to choke the other Tom to death!! What really happened???

[@cynaracherrycaryccc]

What Ariana is asking for isn't even a complicated thing. In fact if he worked in the corporate world, they would asked this of him all the time as they need to know where their money is going. It not that hard to send a copy of the bill to her.

[@nosisekodidi3111]

Ariana wanted to punish him by making him pay for everything lol he was right not to move out. he'd be paying for the house for her and her homies.

[@CaregivingVlogs]

Tom is so hung up on his exes. He can't seem to let sh*t go.

[@joehynes2964]

This current season may wind up causing Sandoval (and Schwartz) to lose even more business. It is actively opening the wound all over again. And, every time he opens his mouth - the hole he's dug for himself gets deeper. It's amazing and hard to watch at the same time.

[@Jessica-zs1wt]

Can’t believe Sandoval is wearing that necklace. 🙄🙄

[@nairnair7726]

Sandoval tries so hard to make her look bad, but always hiding the essential details.